Speaker 1: The launch of sird Nichols Rounds comes with a vision
Speaker 1: for the top ends and a reminder of the reality
Speaker 1: our indigenous players still face.
Speaker 2: Really really determined to return to play for Port Adelaide
Speaker 2: this Saturday, as the AFL addresses its role in his suspension,
Speaker 2: Travis bog to join us and.
Speaker 1: Will turn Raiser's Edge to the state of umpiring and
Speaker 1: whether a philosophical rethink is in order.
Speaker 3: We've talked about, is this step into it, embrace all.
Speaker 1: Of it in the room and Paton it's unedifying for
Speaker 1: a senior coach to do that.
Speaker 4: They're on the side of Cautia with the brain, take
Speaker 4: the man on.
Speaker 1: They played the best footy I've ever seen at the
Speaker 1: start of the season, and Andy said, president left the cup.
Speaker 4: I order said, of course they do. It is the
Speaker 4: stuff that legends are made of. What is holding the ball?
Speaker 5: I don't think I could answer it clearly right now
Speaker 5: that I can do something wrong, you know, And I
Speaker 5: need to get on the board sexually.
Speaker 6: The fans lover and with no fans, no through sixty.
Speaker 4: Year old.
Speaker 1: The angles of Tuesday nights coming before us.
Speaker 3: Did you bump into ray on the land?
Speaker 7: I did, and he's not happy with you, Jared. It's
Speaker 7: fair to say the three sixty family is about to fracture.
Speaker 7: You calling for a sacking of everyone on the weekend
Speaker 7: in the empiring fraternity is riled the champ up.
Speaker 4: So he's kind of coming hot. Got a good carried
Speaker 4: away there. I loved it away all right.
Speaker 1: Here's always got lined up for you tonight. The aftermath
Speaker 1: of the showdown will flavor our players segment. Travis Boke missed.
Speaker 1: That's a rare showdown that he's missed. And Ben Keys
Speaker 1: they've got the bragging rights in town. The Crows ray
Speaker 1: chambon with Raises Edge and some real aw overreaction and
Speaker 1: there's plenty of both, I think it's fair to say.
Speaker 1: And then they write for the back page. They're on
Speaker 1: the midweek Tackle. Lauren Wood leads the team with Josh
Speaker 1: Barnes and John Ralph. The latest in footy news Tomorrow night,
Speaker 1: Simo and Horse, what have they seen from the weekend's
Speaker 1: footy that they will make us smarter?
Speaker 3: With John Longmar and Adam Simpson.
Speaker 1: Tony Armstrong will be here as we walk into Sir
Speaker 1: Doug Nichols round with a broader conversation and we'll have
Speaker 1: the teams as Darwin is the starting point for it.
Speaker 1: All our Tuesdays start with a favorite.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and Darwin for me as well. One of I
Speaker 7: was alerted this. I didn't shert live. One of my
Speaker 7: trusted six pointed this out to me, and I loved it.
Speaker 7: Will Graham game about to go on the line. Western
Speaker 7: Bulldog's charging. Lad have a look at this effort. Jared
Speaker 7: sticks his arm out, hurts himself badly. Next reaction, throw
Speaker 7: yourself on the grenade. That is what's the wounded job.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: The normal person is sitting down thinking they've got a
Speaker 7: month off holiday off work here, and his first reaction
Speaker 7: is to go, no, don't stand there and think how
Speaker 7: bad is my arm? His natural reaction is to go, no,
Speaker 7: let me throw that arm back into the field of
Speaker 7: battle and just get.
Speaker 4: An arm in there.
Speaker 3: It Matt Johnny Noble.
Speaker 4: Look at that. He goes into the he goes into
Speaker 4: the into the into the favorites list.
Speaker 3: On the back of that.
Speaker 4: That is beautiful work. So I love that.
Speaker 3: What about you?
Speaker 1: Well, every parent has been in here sitting waiting, where
Speaker 1: are the damn kids?
Speaker 4: Where are the damn kids?
Speaker 1: This actually just put a smile on my face when
Speaker 1: I wasn't feeling the love necessarily at this point in time.
Speaker 1: But Cody and Joey so just sneaking off in the
Speaker 1: background as the grown ups are heading down to sing
Speaker 1: the song, and they're tasting victory for the first time
Speaker 1: at anfl level. So everyone's waiting, waiting, no self, He's
Speaker 1: got to keep the people happy.
Speaker 4: Everyone's Karen brings it.
Speaker 3: Where are the damn kids? Try to sing the song?
Speaker 4: Yea, they said no.
Speaker 7: I signed a couple more here and I can't ignore
Speaker 7: the special fans on the way through.
Speaker 4: Sarah's beautiful. What sort of reaction We're going to get.
Speaker 3: Nothing but love? Where the hell have you to get
Speaker 3: in in?
Speaker 4: Get a drowning on the back of that.
Speaker 7: So the TikTok numbers are up, Instagram numbers are up.
Speaker 7: They might have got a couple of nibbles, and away
Speaker 7: they go.
Speaker 1: Cody Ango and Joey Delana immediate favorites.
Speaker 4: Boys. It was a great start, all right.
Speaker 3: Let's get in the end of the agenda.
Speaker 1: At the top of it, we head to the top
Speaker 1: end throughout the Willy Rooli saga. Last week we hadn't
Speaker 1: heard from AFL officials in their decision making. So at
Speaker 1: the launch of Sir Doug Nichols Round today, the chief
Speaker 1: executive Andrew Dillon, faced those questions.
Speaker 6: First of all, you acknowledge Willy that Hope is going okay,
Speaker 6: and I know that he's getting support from the Players
Speaker 6: Association in Port Adelaide, So say that first of all,
Speaker 6: and I think secondly, yes, you're right. We want to
Speaker 6: have environments where everyone can be the best that they
Speaker 6: can be and will continue. We've done a lot of
Speaker 6: work in this area, but there would appear that there's
Speaker 6: still more work to do and we know that, and
Speaker 6: we acknowledge that.
Speaker 8: Oh, it's definitely obviously a problem. And I think there's
Speaker 8: always going to be a problem no matter what in
Speaker 8: society and people you know, behind the keyboards and talking
Speaker 8: and you know, you always get a cop cop hate
Speaker 8: no matter what I reckon. But definitely as a country
Speaker 8: are getting better, but there's o a long way to go.
Speaker 9: And how concerned are you that we could lose the
Speaker 9: player with the realisty game.
Speaker 7: And lost players before earlier than we'd like to to
Speaker 7: the game of football.
Speaker 4: How worried are you.
Speaker 3: That we could lose Willy because of some of these factors.
Speaker 6: Yeah, look, I'd hope that's not the case. And that's
Speaker 6: why the support that Willy has got from Port Adelaide,
Speaker 6: the Players Association.
Speaker 3: Is really important.
Speaker 6: And then I hope that you know, when Willy's back
Speaker 6: on the field, he gets the ability to show the
Speaker 6: talent that he has, but also get the benefits of
Speaker 6: the hard work that I know he's had. I remember
Speaker 6: Willy when he was at school back in Melbourne. He's
Speaker 6: done so much hard work to get to where he
Speaker 6: is and I hope he continues to thrive.
Speaker 1: So the first thing to say is Willi Rioli from
Speaker 1: what we hear from Port Adelaide, is ready to resume
Speaker 1: and we'll ask Travis spoke this so he removed himself
Speaker 1: from the circumstances as they swirled and engulfed him last week.
Speaker 1: That was before the suspension was laid down. He couldn't
Speaker 1: have played in the showdown anyway. And then this's broken
Speaker 1: a few different directions. Is the AFL allowed the off
Speaker 1: field and the on field to conflate and came up
Speaker 1: with it judgment there and Port Adelaide went to great
Speaker 1: lengths I think to share with us. And this is
Speaker 1: the spirit of the week, isn't it? Are we open
Speaker 1: minded and open hearted enough to listen to what the
Speaker 1: modern reality is for our indigenous players. We know in
Speaker 1: the past it used to be on field and from
Speaker 1: those they will say to us that that has largely dissipated.
Speaker 1: What comes from the off field and what comes from
Speaker 1: the social media environment.
Speaker 3: Are we prepared to listen to that?
Speaker 4: Well, we've got to.
Speaker 7: We experience this every day, you and I at the
Speaker 7: cold face of supporter basis through our radio work, and
Speaker 7: it's immediate and it's instantaneous feedback whenever you bring the
Speaker 7: subject up. And I don't know whether it's the vocal minority.
Speaker 7: I hope it is, But I'm not overly optimistic that
Speaker 7: we are going to be able to control everything within
Speaker 7: the footy domain. So what can we control is our
Speaker 7: playing cartel and our clubs, and we've got to get
Speaker 7: better at that, Jared, I think from my own personal
Speaker 7: experience and what I've been a part of in the past,
Speaker 7: part of a problem of which I was a part
Speaker 7: of it, and to where it is today, I've seen
Speaker 7: substantial steps being taken by players, clubs and media in
Speaker 7: trying to understand it perfect not no way. It will
Speaker 7: still be debated and there'll still be missteps. It's outside
Speaker 7: of that is where I'm seeing the problem. And I'm
Speaker 7: not saying that everyone in society by any stretched imagination,
Speaker 7: but we get it anecdotally. I see it every day
Speaker 7: and it doesn't cut through. Some of the things that
Speaker 7: Chris Davies was trying to enunciate in explaining the problem
Speaker 7: was just seized upon by some as excuse making, just
Speaker 7: flat out excuse making, and no correlation between that and
Speaker 7: what will he went through. And I'm not excusing Willy's
Speaker 7: behavior either. He's been an angry man for a little while,
Speaker 7: but then you've got to understand why, and then the
Speaker 7: behavior is associated to it. So we're going to control us.
Speaker 7: And that is the footy, the footy family. And if
Speaker 7: you want to be part of the footy family, broader
Speaker 7: family of which the supporters are absolutely at the top
Speaker 7: of the tree, well you've got to get on board.
Speaker 7: And if you don't, I don't know what the consequences are.
Speaker 7: I don't know how you monitor and police it. So
Speaker 7: you can just keep appealing to everyone's best intention to
Speaker 7: have the best intentions. But anecdotally, Darren o'd worried. I
Speaker 7: don't see the change as much as I'd like to.
Speaker 7: Maybe that's just as these boys have pointed out. I
Speaker 7: think bird Hill just said the cutlass and the faceless
Speaker 7: and the anonymous. Others can disagree with it, by the way, Yeah,
Speaker 7: you know that there can be a good argument and
Speaker 7: debate about it in trying to understand it. But there is,
Speaker 7: hopefully it's a very small minority that don't.
Speaker 1: So Chris Davis tried to share why is Willing angry
Speaker 1: and that's part of the observations, and it's not just
Speaker 1: in one week, but over a period of time, and
Speaker 1: why does he react in the manner that he does.
Speaker 1: So for the playing cohort, there's a question what we
Speaker 1: might see is harmless. Taunting around body shape is not harmless.
Speaker 1: The playing group prepared to take that on just to
Speaker 1: listen and to understand and then maybe to moderate their
Speaker 1: behavior from there. And I thought the second element for
Speaker 1: the broader conversation was to speak about the racism that
Speaker 1: Rioli is subjected to and that other players are subjected
Speaker 1: to as a reaction to something that the players have done.
Speaker 1: Rather than it been endemic, this is the reality that
Speaker 1: they face day on day on day, and to live
Speaker 1: your life braced against that is for us to have
Speaker 1: some empathy and understanding for that, and then to integrate
Speaker 1: that into the way we think we.
Speaker 3: Admire these plays, we celebrate them.
Speaker 1: But this week is not as simple as putting these
Speaker 1: beautiful guernseys on and the footy world going look look
Speaker 1: how far we've come with indigenous players, and look what
Speaker 1: they've contributed to the game. It has a deeper meaning
Speaker 1: after the events of last week.
Speaker 3: I think it does.
Speaker 7: And we have Edy Bets as part of their family,
Speaker 7: who speak so passionately about the issues. So through him
Speaker 7: we've gone into even a greater understanding, even greater than
Speaker 7: I as a player, having spoken to teammates of my
Speaker 7: own and as I said, I keep put my hand
Speaker 7: up as being part of that problem in the past
Speaker 7: twenty five thirty years ago. And I don't know how
Speaker 7: comfortable these boys are about talking. Eddie he's got to
Speaker 7: the stage where he's really comfortable about it. Adam had
Speaker 7: tried to be. They get shot down so aggressively that
Speaker 7: they don't want to stick well, I'm sure they do
Speaker 7: want to put their head up and say, hey, this
Speaker 7: is where it's at but it's such an aggressive reaction
Speaker 7: that I would love Willy really to feel comfortable to
Speaker 7: come in here with maybe with Chris Davies, and we
Speaker 7: could take half of our show to just talk about it.
Speaker 7: But I don't know whether that will is at that,
Speaker 7: and I know what some of the instantaneous reaction will be.
Speaker 7: You know, you're trying to justify behaviors and everything.
Speaker 3: I know we're not.
Speaker 7: We're trying to and then you get ah, you're preaching,
Speaker 7: you Gary, you what would you know you're are? I'm
Speaker 7: just trying to understand it. I've learned, Jared. I'm not perfect,
Speaker 7: but I've learned, so I feel like I've been through it.
Speaker 7: And again for those who think I'm I want to
Speaker 7: be clean skin, No, I was a problem as a
Speaker 7: player back in an era where this was the start
Speaker 7: of it. So I am trying just to understand it
Speaker 7: more and more and more. And all you can do
Speaker 7: is appeal to everyone to try and get their head
Speaker 7: around that.
Speaker 3: So really hadn't mean it's misdemeanor.
Speaker 1: He's been punished appropriately for that with a one game suspension.
Speaker 1: I would hope that his return to football is a
Speaker 1: positive experience. And I don't feel absolutely confident about it.
Speaker 3: It will be in the home from the playing cartel.
Speaker 7: I hope for everybody, well, I don't well, I hope,
Speaker 7: of course, I hope. Am I confident that there won't
Speaker 7: be I don't know. I wish I could say definitively
Speaker 7: look come back in. Really, the players I think are
Speaker 7: going to get their heads around it. The broader footy
Speaker 7: family will. But are we expecting too much for everyone?
Speaker 1: It's the tenth edition of Sir Doug Nichols Round. One
Speaker 1: of the lovely additions has been an honoree honoring an
Speaker 1: indigenous player from the past. This man is thought by
Speaker 1: many from the West to be the best who never
Speaker 1: came over and.
Speaker 3: Played in the VFL.
Speaker 1: He is revered through his career at South Fremantle. This
Speaker 1: year's honoree is Stephen Michael.
Speaker 10: It's a great thrill, great honor and from a little
Speaker 10: town encourage up well, I come from his unbelievable Where
Speaker 10: I'm going at the moment I want to say about
Speaker 10: I'm going. I'm nearly seventy years of age. Next step
Speaker 10: maybe in the bloody coffin.
Speaker 4: Or something like that.
Speaker 10: But I'm just very proud to be recognized as Sir
Speaker 10: Dug Nicholas surround.
Speaker 4: It's a great thrill in my life. And you know
Speaker 4: we do.
Speaker 10: Players don't ask to be these types of people. This
Speaker 10: comes along because you want to do the best that
Speaker 10: you can. So you know, I'm very humble for and
Speaker 10: Dawen very humble to hit all from Fotty Club and
Speaker 10: Stanne forty Club space. It's a great strill for me.
Speaker 1: One of his next steps is going to be to
Speaker 1: join us in the studio next week. So two times
Speaker 1: Sandover medallist, he was the All Australian captain in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty three, which was a phenomenal achievement at the time.
Speaker 1: He's an a Hall of Famer back from almost right.
Speaker 3: At the start.
Speaker 7: Well, I hope when he comes in next week we
Speaker 7: can dig up some vision and those state games and
Speaker 7: he's played in just so those that I've heard the
Speaker 7: name and seen a little bit, but his name is
Speaker 7: revered throughout footy circles. Sammy Newman and all those types
Speaker 7: of players to talk about him and I listen. But
Speaker 7: if we can show our audience, our new generation, just
Speaker 7: how good a footballer this valor is, then it'd be
Speaker 7: an education well worth indulging in. So it'd be great
Speaker 7: to meet him. It'll be fantastic to meet him next
Speaker 7: week when he comes in here. This is footy Royalty here.
Speaker 1: It is indeed, so Thursday night in dah and the
Speaker 1: starting point for Sir Dog Nichols round the second of
Speaker 1: the two matches. The Sun's staged there. It's a big
Speaker 1: week for footy in Dawen with the aspirations that they have.
Speaker 1: So the Full Commission went and met on Monday in
Speaker 1: the Northern Territory and had various experiences around the football
Speaker 1: community and the communities more broadly. There have been meetings
Speaker 1: with governments and we know that there is a task
Speaker 1: force in place that is doing the groundwork to see
Speaker 1: if they might be the twentieth license, Should they continue on,
Speaker 1: should they feel optimistic?
Speaker 3: Here was the boss today.
Speaker 6: That's the work that the a f L N T
Speaker 6: and the NT task Force are doing at the moment.
Speaker 6: And as I said, if we give you, if the
Speaker 6: base is right and we're seeing unprecedented growth in participation
Speaker 6: in the Northern Territory, as I said before, incredible rates
Speaker 6: of participation overall and particularly with women. The work then
Speaker 6: is to make sure that we've got a business case
Speaker 6: that sits behind the team that allows it to thrive
Speaker 6: through the cycles that any team will go through during
Speaker 6: the Outdeld competition.
Speaker 1: So that's encouragement to continue. Read that optimism about optimism,
Speaker 1: but encouragement to continue and make the case slightly and
Speaker 1: j okay, definite enough open minded to it.
Speaker 7: They've got good people involved in that workforce you've talked about,
Speaker 7: so they get the work will be good.
Speaker 1: And what I do know is we won't stay at
Speaker 1: an odd number of teams for many years.
Speaker 4: Well if it's not historign territory, where is it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Northern Territory is doing all the work.
Speaker 4: First they got there. They've got their nose in front.
Speaker 1: So go hard, go hard, all right, the furnace like
Speaker 1: you've unlocked the idea that every coach has got a
Speaker 1: little bit of a talkback caller's.
Speaker 4: Got to give them the forum.
Speaker 3: Give them the forum.
Speaker 4: We've got them here.
Speaker 7: We've got all aiden coaches here and if they've gone
Speaker 7: So it's been outstanding today and it's instigated a lot
Speaker 7: of the bait.
Speaker 3: That has bug bears and hobby horses in the furnace.
Speaker 11: You can't turn back the clock, but in the Poddy
Speaker 11: you can. There's a few rules that change that I'd
Speaker 11: like to change.
Speaker 9: Back, can I have two?
Speaker 5: The first one double up games only worth two points,
Speaker 5: So your first double up game, if you win it,
Speaker 5: you get two. If you're losing the second one, zero points,
Speaker 5: or you've got to win the double to get your four.
Speaker 9: The sub so we got a fit plat that's that
Speaker 9: month sitting on the bench can't come on. There's certainly
Speaker 9: an impact when you need them to. You've got on
Speaker 9: spend time throughout a game strategically when you're going to
Speaker 9: when you're going to pull it. So my thing is
Speaker 9: you have five there, you just play five.
Speaker 11: The flat hons on the back right. It was a
Speaker 11: few years ago flat hands on the back was an
Speaker 11: automatic frigick against Now the poor our lumpis have to
Speaker 11: adjudicate whether it's undue forced with the pushes a dog's breakfast.
Speaker 5: And the other one that need is to take the
Speaker 5: incorrect technique out.
Speaker 3: Of the game.
Speaker 5: We've got to stop encouraging, you know, especially with what's
Speaker 5: happening with CT and the concussion protocols.
Speaker 3: We've got to.
Speaker 5: Stop players leading with their head you know, the one
Speaker 5: thing we have to discourage that that form of motion.
Speaker 5: Players have got to be encouraged to have the correct technique.
Speaker 9: The pre finals buy for mine should go before the
Speaker 9: Grand final. The top four teams that have spent the
Speaker 9: duration of the season being the best teams should get
Speaker 9: the best chance to proceed through the finals as they
Speaker 9: goss the pre finals buy has come in the differential
Speaker 9: space so great.
Speaker 11: At the moment, we've got this ridiculous situation where they're
Speaker 11: all careless because almost nothing's intentional. Version that's reckless. Same
Speaker 11: that's reckless, and the careless is like one week or
Speaker 11: even suspended one week. And that's what Paul Curtis.
Speaker 4: Should have got.
Speaker 9: Grand final finals and then regular season are different So
Speaker 9: just play it out. Maybe e've been throwing a golden
Speaker 9: goal or something on.
Speaker 4: The golden goal as well well.
Speaker 5: Either's like could just keep it going, no soar and
Speaker 5: goes until the next golden goal or therese are gont
Speaker 5: know there's some.
Speaker 3: Form of recognition.
Speaker 5: We've got this ridiculous thing on the sideline where men
Speaker 5: hold up one minute, two minutes, three minutes, swings.
Speaker 4: Just get them to hold up a golden goal.
Speaker 5: Sign if we can to get it up and going.
Speaker 3: Thanks Jared, Thanks, Yeah, I have a hardship. We've push
Speaker 3: Damien Harvick a little further. The countdown clock might have
Speaker 3: been on.
Speaker 1: His mind too, but a bit of reel overaction. Golden
Speaker 1: goal would be fun.
Speaker 3: Be cool overaction.
Speaker 7: It would be cool, but it can't work, Jared, because
Speaker 7: it would work at Marvel Stadium.
Speaker 4: And that's about it.
Speaker 7: I mean, you imagine down in Tazzy if that game
Speaker 7: was down there and it was a howling breeze and
Speaker 7: they'd kick six goals to none in the last quarter,
Speaker 7: and Damian Hardwick's kicking.
Speaker 4: Into the breeze and they go golden goal.
Speaker 7: It's not putting his hand up for golden goal on
Speaker 7: the back of that, but it is just so good
Speaker 7: to hear the coaches and voices and they're all, as
Speaker 7: you say, they all want something to say.
Speaker 4: Dimmer. This.
Speaker 7: I needed you to go to work as my head
Speaker 7: blew up. Dimmer's double up game idea has merit real
Speaker 7: or over.
Speaker 1: Well, I think because it's convoluted in the way that
Speaker 1: people are trying to understand it. It's an over reaction.
Speaker 1: So I thought we'd do the work right redo last
Speaker 1: year's fixture by applying the double up games. So there's
Speaker 1: four points up for grabs in every pairing. If you
Speaker 1: play twice, it's two points in one game and two
Speaker 1: points in the next game. So to get your full
Speaker 1: four you have to beat your opponent twice. You can
Speaker 1: split them too two. If there's a drawer, it might
Speaker 1: end up being three to one. So this is how
Speaker 1: it would look if you ran Damien Hardwick system all
Speaker 1: the way through. And there is significant change. Is Geelong
Speaker 1: come out of the top four and Brisbane go in
Speaker 1: Giants rice, so you get a different set of matchups
Speaker 1: for the qualifying finals. And then you look at bit
Speaker 1: the Melbourne are the big riser. The hell yes, so
Speaker 1: everyone sheds points, Collingwood down, but Melbourne shed fewer.
Speaker 3: Points on the double.
Speaker 4: So I could give it the whole spreadshut.
Speaker 7: Sam will already be playing for North Melbourne on the
Speaker 7: basis of this as well, because the wooden spoon gets
Speaker 7: flipped around as well. But the bottom line is the
Speaker 7: eight stays the same. It's just some maneuverings into Yes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the top four is the big change there.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. You can't reuse the sub for a concussion.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's real.
Speaker 7: That just makes sense, And I think that is one
Speaker 7: of those ones where it's a contentious issue anyway, the
Speaker 7: sub and if you do pull the sub, as they
Speaker 7: did with steel side bottom of minutes later, Lucky Shiltz
Speaker 7: cops this, then I think it's just because if it's
Speaker 7: introduced so that you can have a basic four and
Speaker 7: steel side and whips the T shirt off and comes
Speaker 7: back on it plays again. I think that's that's something
Speaker 7: that they should be looking at. I'm made, well, I
Speaker 7: don't know where they are because they've been pretty wedded
Speaker 7: to the four and the sub, haven't they.
Speaker 3: They haven't been.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this would be a neat little adjustment in the
Speaker 1: spirit of how it all started.
Speaker 4: Compromise, isn't it.
Speaker 1: I think it's a good compromise and it would only
Speaker 1: happen six times a year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you can't manipulate it.
Speaker 7: You can't just pull a concussion because you end up
Speaker 7: not playing the next week.
Speaker 4: It empirical measures, all those things work pretty well.
Speaker 7: The pre finals by doesn't help the top four.
Speaker 3: Real reaction, Yeah, that's real.
Speaker 1: It's a design to dilute the advantages that the top
Speaker 1: four had and it's absolutely done that. This is well documented.
Speaker 1: We've run it through the years. Is the instances of
Speaker 1: straight sets, which were historically rare over a long period
Speaker 1: of time, have become commonplace. Premierships have been one from
Speaker 1: outside the top four by the Bulldogs and the Lions.
Speaker 1: Teams have made Grand finals. So this is the actual
Speaker 1: idea is to dilute the stronghelth. The trouble is we
Speaker 1: play twenty three games along the way to establish an order,
Speaker 1: and it used to be that you had to win
Speaker 1: the right to a week off for the freshen up,
Speaker 1: and that was.
Speaker 3: The best advantage you can get.
Speaker 1: Now everyone gets the freshen up, and the problem has
Speaker 1: been the double break has brought teams undone on their
Speaker 1: way to the Grand finals.
Speaker 4: Are you for it now?
Speaker 3: I've hated it from the moment of suggestion. Yep. Move
Speaker 3: it before the.
Speaker 1: Grand Final and then adjust the calendar to provide the
Speaker 1: build up to that. And he's right. Is the first
Speaker 1: time we get a high profile concussion in the men's game.
Speaker 1: We've already had it in the women's The first time
Speaker 1: it happens in the men's game.
Speaker 3: To watch this change, that is true.
Speaker 1: The definition of docer madness is doing the same thing
Speaker 1: over and over.
Speaker 7: Well, this is real and that's been one of the
Speaker 7: frustrations i'd imagine for Freemantle, Docker supporters and a whole
Speaker 7: host of clubs that keep going to watch their team play,
Speaker 7: keep watching them win the inside fifty count and just
Speaker 7: keep watching them turn the footy over. So when you
Speaker 7: look at these Jared, so they go inside fifty sixty
Speaker 7: two times, which is twenty eight more than their opposition.
Speaker 7: Yet the opposition has eight more marks inside forward fifty
Speaker 7: and the innocen marks are twenty twenty eight to three
Speaker 7: or something. I haven't got here, but it's Cameron four
Speaker 7: more for Frampton three. Have a look at this one.
Speaker 4: Which you're about to see. I missed it. You know.
Speaker 7: One of them was the Darcy Cameron on the young
Speaker 7: boy Reid who just playing a game. So in the
Speaker 7: end you've got and this is with Tracy Amos, Darcy
Speaker 7: and or Jackson. So there's an issue there. First of all,
Speaker 7: massive problem. Then they're not getting to the right spot.
Speaker 7: They've wont center clearance as well, twenty to eight, so
Speaker 7: they're getting a six six six set up. They can
Speaker 7: set up any way they want at center bounds, so
Speaker 7: they still aren't able to take advantage of that. They've
Speaker 7: taken six marks from sixty two entries. Three of them
Speaker 7: were in the first five minutes, and three of them
Speaker 7: were to Dudley, the littlest feller in the Ford fifty.
Speaker 7: So in the end you've got to change your approach,
Speaker 7: and I just I can't work out.
Speaker 4: You go, I keep kicking it and it keeps coming back.
Speaker 7: Why do not they kick it to the ground, Jared,
Speaker 7: I know this sounds like under twelve foot, But if
Speaker 7: you keep doing it and Darcy Moore keeps market or
Speaker 7: Darcy Cameron keeps make it get time to set up
Speaker 7: and rebound, kick it to a fifty to fifty along
Speaker 7: the ground. At worse, you got a fifty to fifty four.
Speaker 7: At least if they get the ball, they win position.
Speaker 7: They're under pressure as you can tackle them. You might
Speaker 7: fluke a bounce, you might get one going your way.
Speaker 7: The bad news is for freemail. They lost groundble.
Speaker 4: Inside the Ford fifty as well.
Speaker 3: Have a feeling port did it once?
Speaker 7: I reckon There's been a couple that have flirted with it,
Speaker 7: But why it doesn't Oh okay, kicking it up?
Speaker 4: Oh okay, kicking it up, do something different.
Speaker 3: You're thinking like a coach.
Speaker 1: I actually Simo and Horse are along this path tomorrow.
Speaker 4: I'm happy to go. Yes, I've got it right. The
Speaker 4: game is too long, Jared, Real or over reaction is
Speaker 4: not a question.
Speaker 1: This is a statement what I wanted to ask you.
Speaker 1: So put the numbers up because it is getting ridiculous.
Speaker 3: It's two and a half minutes longer this year than
Speaker 3: it was last year.
Speaker 4: There's a creep.
Speaker 1: There is a project to be done here. Before you
Speaker 1: hack into game time. There is a project to be
Speaker 1: done here. What I wanted to send back to you
Speaker 1: was Dave Matthews, the chief executive of the Giants, said
Speaker 1: the game needs to be shorter to appease and attract
Speaker 1: the Sydney market.
Speaker 3: Is this a step forward.
Speaker 7: That has set back the cause of the shortening of
Speaker 7: the game ten years, saying that they want to shorten
Speaker 7: the game because the Sydney market. I ain't getting any
Speaker 7: support here in Victoria. I'm running up against the title.
Speaker 3: They're really interesting nothing, but there are leavers to pull.
Speaker 7: I want them to do the project in the off season,
Speaker 7: in the game up here, do the work.
Speaker 4: Come on, man, is Travis.
Speaker 1: Boke in the aftermath of the showdown. We're heading to
Speaker 1: Adelaide to join our players.
Speaker 3: Next applications