1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Coming up on relatables, the fundamentals of where trust come 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: from and how to work on them in a healthy manner, 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: and it all comes back to. 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 2: Just the Relatables. 5 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 3: Podcast is hosted by myself, Jake Craig aka Duddy, and 6 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 3: my partner in c Like okay. 7 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: Mommy the goat aka the Goat, the goat of the relatables, 8 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: the people like the people I have chosen that, mate. 9 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: I don't think I've heard any rooms about that at all. 10 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: Do you know how like all these companies do like 11 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: vote for your favorite TikToker and vote for your favorite 12 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: artists and then they give you like three artists. 13 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 2: Vote for who you want to be president. But then 14 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 2: you've got to that's tomorrow, by the way, is it yeah? 15 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 3: Or like well like technically today, yeah, because it's the 16 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 3: fifth today. 17 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if that one works and what I 18 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: was about to say, but they say, they say vote 19 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: for the best one in Australia and then you're given 20 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: like three options and you're like, my favorite TikTok is 21 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: not even fucking. 22 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: Their actually a good point. 23 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: I've always thought that. I was like, who creates this list? 24 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: Is this like TikTok's favorites or do you want to 25 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: actually give them an insight as to how the TikTok 26 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: awards work. 27 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 3: Because I remember learning about this I forgot so basically, 28 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 3: like all the biggest like I think, like some of 29 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 3: the biggest TikTokers in Australia. 30 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: Obviously I'm invited, Yeah, but. 31 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 3: You don't really get invited as an individual unless you 32 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 3: are like next level. What happens is TikTok sends invites 33 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: to all the agencies that have talent, and they don't 34 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 3: really care how big the talent is because it's like 35 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: they're just sent to the agency. The agency has a 36 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: bunch of talent, and then like you know, obviously the 37 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: individuals that are like the biggest, they'll probably send them 38 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: a personal invite. 39 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: I have no idea, but. 40 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 3: That's how because we went last year. Yeah, and we 41 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 3: the only reason we went is because we were about 42 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 3: to sign like where we were about to start a 43 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 3: trial with with like an agency company, like a like 44 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: a management company. Yeah, And the only reason we got 45 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 3: invited was because they got sin by. They asked, they 46 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 3: had they had to ask TikTok like can the boys 47 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 3: come in the TikTok? I think TikTok was kind of 48 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 3: I mean, and they're like, yeah, fuck it. 49 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: Whatever, and then we went, yeah, well it's not based 50 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: on numbers, which is what it is portrayed us. 51 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: Yeah weird. 52 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's really not. If you want to go 53 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 3: vote for your favorite TikTok for the TikTok Awards. I've 54 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 3: always thought it's like a race. 55 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: Whoever has the best time wins, but it's more like 56 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: whoever ticks all the boxes wins. 57 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, fair, and like also there's probably people that so 58 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 3: who wanted who wanted when we were there, that girl 59 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: with the kids ship, Yeah, she's massive. 60 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: She she's huge family. 61 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's got the most chaotic family ever. Her husband's 62 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: like Indy Clinton. 63 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 2: Indy Clinton. 64 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 3: She won well to the awards we went to, and 65 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 3: like she currently obviously she's not nominated again, but if 66 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 3: she was nominated again, she probably win again. 67 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, like they 68 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 2: just don't nominate them twice. 69 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: Maybe that's the concept behind it, is like you can't 70 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: do it off who's the biggest because they win every year. Yeah, 71 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's people bigger than Yeah. 72 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 3: The reason we're saying this is because we think we 73 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: should win. 74 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: The actually isn't There isn't a podcast award. 75 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 3: And you know what that's funny about that is there's 76 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 3: a lot of podcasts that are really big on TikTok. Yeah, 77 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 3: Like there's this one called The Morning Shift who have 78 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 3: like over a million followers. 79 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: They were they had that less than us and they 80 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: just went way past us and then we got the chocolates. 81 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: They have one point three All these huge followings on 82 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: for like podcasts, they should have a they should have 83 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: a category the best TikTok podcast. We're getting hard done, 84 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: please TikTok so like because there's no category. 85 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: That's why we're saying, Na, we don't want to go. 86 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 2: We don't want to go. 87 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: And Australia is the only country that does TikTok awards. No, 88 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: whether country does it, I don't want to get it 89 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: into a day. We have the TikTok Awards, but then 90 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: we don't pay our talent. 91 00:03:58,320 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't get the creative fun. 92 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're so all the TikTokers out there that are 93 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: making tiktoks yeah, like and that's their like base, their 94 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: revenue is. 95 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: They're not getting paid for it unfortunately. 96 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, the game is the game made a bunch of 97 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: Australian TikTokers. 98 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: They get massive on YouTube shorts for that reason. 99 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, We're always going to go because it's 100 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: so much time spent into making these videos. 101 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: It actually is. 102 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: Some people just don't realize that. But anyways, Jake, what 103 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: I wanted to start the episode with. On the weekend 104 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: I celebrated my one year anniversary. 105 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 3: Congrats man in searches three six five days around wait yeah, 106 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 3: three six five days around the sun. 107 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 1: No one time around the sign. Fucking hell yeah, you 108 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: stuff me up. 109 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: One time around the sign with the missus. 110 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah one congrats, thanks man, Thanks man. And beautiful 111 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: we went on a beautiful, romantic getaway up to Newcastle, 112 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: but we were having some really deep and interesting conversations huh. 113 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: And I don't know how it came into the common, 114 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: but we ended up talking about a bit of a 115 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: dangerous subject, but it came up in a nice, healthy way, 116 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: like each other's exes. 117 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 118 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: And I was learning a little bit about her previous 119 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: relationships and how other guys acted and. 120 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 2: Loved in a way. 121 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: And it was quite interesting and insightful for a man 122 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: hearing that because as a guy. You never get to 123 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: really see how other dudes love and how they act 124 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: in relationships because it's behind closed walls. And I was 125 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: hearing it from like the other partner's perspective, yep, And 126 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: I was hearing some story, not. 127 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: Saying that I'm better than them, even though I am, 128 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 2: but I was hearing some wild stories and I was like, 129 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: this is mind boggling. 130 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 1: And she was like gassing me up because I'm obviously 131 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: her boyfriend. And she was that the things I do 132 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: are good. This isn't here to say I'm better at 133 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: anyone else. But I was thinking, like, this is like 134 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: a really weird concept, like I I sometimes forget because 135 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: me and Jacob, like I don't know, so exposed to 136 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: the environments of dating that we forget that. 137 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: Some dudes are. The best way to describe it is trash. 138 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 2: I was trying to think of a nicer way to 139 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: put it. 140 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: But we have a lot of you said that's so, like. 141 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we have a lot of female listeners, but 142 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: this segment, if you have any male friends, you think 143 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: a little bit on the edge of like maybe they're 144 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: not the best bloke or they're doing something a bit Yeah, 145 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: send this to them to get an inside of like. 146 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: Basically the bare minimum of dating. But we've done that before, 147 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: but this is. 148 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: More in like a useful, insightful way where you can 149 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: actually implement it. 150 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, and I also think like these are easy. 151 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, that's basically yeah. So we're calling this. 152 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 1: Hey man, he's a hack. So any guys are just 153 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: joined from right now. Hey man, he's a hack. Don't 154 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: buy a flowers because you did something wrong. Buy her 155 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: flowers because you want to. 156 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 2: Facts bro, do it because you want to see her smile. 157 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: This is the one that made me come up with 158 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: the idea. 159 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: She was telling me. 160 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: She's like, you buy me flowers because you want to 161 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: and you want to see me happy, whereas in her 162 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: previous race relationships. And I'm sure a lot of girls 163 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: listening about there. I didn't realize guys do something wrong 164 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: and then they go, here you go, I bought this 165 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: because I fucking I don't know, didn't message you all 166 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: night last night. 167 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: Ah, here you go take this flowers. And I was like, 168 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: people do. 169 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: I'm like that just sounds like a like a double 170 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: wend disorder. 171 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: It's not really doing anything good. And also it's a 172 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: very common thing, like it's never happened to me. I 173 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: don't think it's happened to me. 174 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 3: Well, you know, actually what's na No, I won't say that. 175 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 3: But what I saw a video once and this guy 176 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 3: was making the he goes, I'm making this video because 177 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: I was at the shops and I bought some flowers 178 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 3: for my wife and you know, because I wanted to. 179 00:07:55,400 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: And the cashier was a man and was like, because 180 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 3: he bought the flowers, You're like, oh in the doghouse 181 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 3: eire as if like he had done something bad by 182 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: So it's like it's like a really well known thing 183 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: that guys will just get. 184 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 2: Flowers when they're in a bit of trub. 185 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: That's one thing that I didn't put on my hacks 186 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: I've got. We both have five eaches. Hey man, here's 187 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: a hack sort of talk to your friends and pull 188 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: them up when they say something that isn't right. 189 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, here's a hack when your friends are having that 190 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 3: like locker room chat. 191 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: Hmm, maybe just be like not that funny. 192 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Because my girlfriend was explaining like cat calling and 193 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: like how girls feel and how she feels when people 194 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: get cat called, and she says the guys she probably 195 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: sees as the guys think it's harmless, but they don't 196 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: realize the impact of making a girl feel unsafe. But 197 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: I was thinking about cat calls, and most of the 198 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: time it's trades for some reason. And it'll be like 199 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: a couple of traders in the car and two of 200 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: them are instigating the cat calling, and there's maybe one 201 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: guy in the back who like doesn't really agree with 202 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: what they're saying or like. But I know it's easier 203 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: said than done. But it's probably good to just take 204 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: account of Billy and be like, hey man, that's kind 205 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: of not cool. 206 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 3: I think that's something maybe that's good to preach, is 207 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 3: you know, so we need to start practicing watch what 208 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 3: we preach, because like when we're young. When we were young, 209 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 3: obviously we were scared to do it, and I don't 210 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 3: think I would be scared to do it anymore. 211 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 2: And like, whenever I think. 212 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 3: One thing like to preach, obviously, like you're not going 213 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 3: to fix any sort of problem straight away, But if 214 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 3: we could just start to talk about like two I'm 215 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 3: not saying we're like the best examples of ever, but 216 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 3: just like b two guys that are twenty four nearly 217 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 3: twenty five fucking like we're obviously through that teenage. Yes, 218 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 3: like we and be people that talk about being like 219 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 3: you know the way that like because you think about, Okay, 220 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 3: remember this, we this was not even that long ago, 221 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 3: and it's I think it's terrible, and I want to 222 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 3: like call us out and I want to call friends 223 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 3: down on it. Guys will look at a girl and 224 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 3: be like, oh, she's like girl friend material, sex material, 225 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 3: like that type of shit when you're young. Yeah, And 226 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 3: I think like even in that situation, like if you're 227 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 3: out with your friends and they're like, oh, like look 228 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 3: at her, she's like beautiful, she's a girl from A two, 229 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 3: and then someone else goes like nah, like she just 230 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: looks fuckable. That's when I think you should pap up 231 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 3: and be like no, whoa, whoa, let's just chill here. 232 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's and it's not going to be that awkward. 233 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: And if they say to you like, oh, don't be 234 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: a pussy, yeah, like just hold your ground and be 235 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: like no, I just don't. 236 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: I think that's cool. 237 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: I think it's really important to realize that in men's 238 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: eyes it seem as harmless fun, but it really does 239 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: have a big impact. On said person and their gender 240 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: as a whole, because all those though those things are 241 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: terrible if you go back to the. 242 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 3: Person, if like, if you imagine, here's okay, my first 243 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 3: one is, here's a hey man, here's a hack. Treat 244 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 3: a girl the way that you would want your sister 245 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 3: or your mum to be treated. Yeah, like and so 246 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 3: it's so simple. Yeah, so like if your friends are 247 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 3: talking about a girl, yeah, then imagine they were talking 248 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 3: about your sister. Yeah, that girl is probably someone's sister 249 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 3: or definitely someone's daughter. 250 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: Think about the way you want your daughter to be treated. 251 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 3: I think that's what we need to start, just at 252 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 3: least changing our mindset on is like when you hear 253 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 3: someone that is talking like that, us included, like if 254 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 3: we hear a friend talking ab we just need to 255 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 3: be like no, like imagine if like imagine if that 256 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 3: was your daughter and someone else was talking about your 257 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 3: daughter like that, what would you do? 258 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a simple just like not cool man, Like, 259 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: think about how she would feel if you heard what 260 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 1: you just said about. 261 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: It, and they'll be like, oh, like you're ruined in 262 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: the mood. It's like, yeah, but why is this the mood? 263 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: This the mood like yeah, and it's being like I'm 264 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: one hundred percent guilty of seeing things. I've probably done 265 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: things in the past that I'm not proud of, but 266 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: it's more so seeing things and not saying anything. Feels 267 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: I was too scared to voice what I believe. But 268 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: I think now I'm getting older and more comfortable in 269 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: my skin, I should I should be like nah, dude, 270 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: Like I think it's. 271 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, less scared of the awkward situations. 272 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and realizing like I'm being true to 273 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: myself and like what I believe in is really important 274 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: for the outcome of like what I think the world 275 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: should be like, rather than just being like, nah, I don't. 276 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 2: Want to make this awkward. 277 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like do you think it's crazy to think, like, 278 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 3: you know, you could hear a friend and back in 279 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 3: the day when you were younger, like talk about a girl, 280 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 3: and then you might just be like you let it 281 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 3: brush it off, but like just imagine if they were 282 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 3: talking about your girlfriend. 283 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I don't know. 284 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 3: I think I think just like changing the perspective, like 285 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: imagine if this was someone you knew on a deep level. 286 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm even thinking, like we bring it back all 287 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: the time like this, it's obviously something hormone of going 288 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: on in your brain. But growing up as like a 289 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 1: teenage boy, like there's no education on not objectifying women. 290 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 3: Facts, bro, And why do fucking teenagers have access to pawn? 291 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can go on there and they say are 292 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 2: you eighteen? All you have to do is click yes, 293 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: and it believes you're like yeah, yeah, yeah. 294 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: We're like there's so many hormonal changes going in a 295 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: guy's body and it doesn't help that, like we're Heap's horny, 296 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: and then we just see him as like. 297 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she's just fucking sex material. 298 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the night prior you were looking at fucking 299 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 3: porn because your friends told you they started watching ports. 300 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 2: You're like, well, I'm gonna do it now. Yeah, Like it's. 301 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 1: Weird, unhealthy and like, I don't know. Someone messaged us 302 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: and said that Victoria is trying to educate better on 303 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: sexual education and gender equalities, and yeah, that's right, stepping 304 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: in the right way. But New South Wales Queensland's all 305 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: really far behind and we're just learning about fucking power 306 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: dagorous theorem. 307 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: Shout out to Victoria. 308 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 3: Someone said to the episode, like, I'm from I'm a 309 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 3: teacher from Victoria, and I will let you know that 310 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 3: in sexual health education they've changed it to like shit, 311 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 3: we could go find it. But like, but Victoria is 312 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 3: talking about yeah, they're teaching young men. 313 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: It's changing the mindset because I'm thinking back of when 314 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 1: I was in school. She just like, that's just what 315 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 1: boys do. But that's not right. No, no, it shouldn't 316 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: be okay, So hey man, here's a hack. Plan a 317 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: date from start to finish, not figure it out on day. 318 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more. Fuck, I could not agree more. 319 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: These are, like you said, so simple, so simple, so effective. 320 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: I think planning a date I take you ten minutes. 321 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 2: It's so enjoying, honestly, honestly, it's so enjoyable. 322 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: Like now you go on TikTok, you stroll and fucking 323 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: TikTok looking at good places that you will even enjoyed 324 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: to eat, and then you go book it. 325 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 3: Next time you're taking a ship instead of strong TikTok, 326 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 3: just watching videos, squat chiktok looking for restaurants. 327 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 2: That's making. 328 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: So much title a toilet exactly, yeah, honestly, And then 329 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: think about a game I could like and go buy 330 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: an Uno deck, go buy a fucking little board game. 331 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: Go buying out four, Go do something. Just think outside 332 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: the box a little bit, use your brain. Hey, man, 333 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 2: here's a hack. 334 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 3: Actually give a shit about important dates like anniversaries, birthdays, 335 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 3: and Christmas. Valentine's Day is pretty fucking important to a girl. 336 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: Anniversary. 337 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: Oh the other day, I'm going to cool one of 338 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: our friends out, our audio audio fucking production technician man 339 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: on Patreon. We asked him about it. He's a good 340 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: example where we should have caught him out more. We 341 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: sort of did. Semi did, Yeah, we semi did. We 342 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: asked him about his anniversary, and we both said ours. 343 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: We're not trying to say that we're better than anyone else. 344 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: But he's like, I don't know, I'm not gonna what 345 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: do you say. I'm not gonna incriminate myself. 346 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, he said the month and we were like, yeah, 347 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 3: but what day? Yeah, and I'm going to like you 348 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 3: kind of just did. Man, that was incrimination. 349 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: We should have went a little bit more, mate. You 350 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: should know that's a very important day. It's like the 351 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: day you committed to this person. Yeah, Like those days 352 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: are important. I don't know why, guys, I love them. Yeah, yeah, 353 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: they're sounding like i'm'm be the other half of this relationship. 354 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: I would know you want to know these. 355 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: Hey man, here's a hack. Relationships are work. Don't just 356 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: stop when you've bagged the girl. 357 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 358 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: A lot of guys will act like a lot more 359 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: than they are well, like. 360 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: During the chase. Yeah, but then yeah, once they've really as. 361 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: Soon as I've gone it, well, I've got her now, 362 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: I don't need a secured Yeah. 363 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 2: I could have roommate. 364 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: What you mean, That's that's what relationships are about. 365 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 2: Hey man, here's a hack. Actually ask her to be 366 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 2: your girlfriend. Yeah, not just like yeah, you're and me, We're. 367 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 3: You're going to be like, you're gonna be like, oh 368 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 3: so like I've planned the the day that we're getting married. 369 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 2: She's like, we're gonna ask me first? What are you 370 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: gonna ask me first? I think so many dudes need 371 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: to hear that. 372 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: Those words. We've said it before. Will you beat my girlfriend? 373 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: Five word? Yeah? 374 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 3: I don't think it's like you know, I remember the 375 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 3: show synopsis I did about nobody wants to have you 376 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 3: finished it yet? 377 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: Did you start it? I started in the Okay, in 378 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: that show That's fair. In that show they they two 379 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: like older, like fully grown adults. 380 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you'd think that they'd be the type to 381 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 3: be like, you know, we're too mature to be like 382 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 3: asking each other to be boyfriend and girlfriend whatever. But 383 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 3: the guy, I'm going to spoil one thing for you, 384 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 3: hopefully watch it. The guy at one point does go. 385 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: Will you please be my girlfriend? 386 00:16:58,160 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 3: It was the best, and I was just like, oh, 387 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 3: it's a good like they're sending out a good message here. 388 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly it is. 389 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,479 Speaker 1: Okay, Hey man, here's a hack message her when you're out, 390 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: letting her know your movements because she. 391 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 2: Loves you, because you love her. Yeah, like what I 392 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 2: never understood, Like, oh, sorry, I wasn't on my phone. 393 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 2: I like going on my phone while I'm out. Yeah, 394 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: to live in the moment, like it. 395 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: Takes fucking fifteen seconds, not even just be like, hey, 396 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: we're going to this bar now, Hey we're going to 397 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: Josh's house. 398 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, leaving bar Josh's house. 399 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: That's all that's all they want, Yeah, I know, just 400 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: to know what's going on. 401 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 3: Ah, hey man, here's a hack. Try and fix the 402 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 3: problems instead of cheating your way out of it. 403 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: Double down. Yeah, the fucking hell I got one more. 404 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 2: I got one more to amen, here's a hack. Remember 405 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,479 Speaker 2: she has feelings? Yeah, Oh, that one's deep. I know. 406 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: I don't understand how some people do their actions. 407 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: They think the person's not real or something. They don't 408 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 2: have emotions or they and they're not gonna get cold. Yeah, 409 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: some people in the world. My last one, Hey, man, 410 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 2: he's a hack. 411 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: Make her feel like the most important girl in the world, 412 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 1: because that's what she is to you, right. 413 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more. 414 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: As Rihanna said, I want you to make me feel 415 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: like I'm the only girl in the world, like I'm 416 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:29,479 Speaker 1: the only one honestly, Just make it feel special, Like 417 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: what's the part of being in a relationship if you don't. 418 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 3: I know, it's so fucking we got I mean I 419 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 3: didn't look I thin't talking about it like. 420 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: We talked about it a lot, which is good. 421 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 3: I think all we have to do is keep talking 422 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 3: about it and eventually we'll get to more male listeners. 423 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, send this to a man, like I think we 424 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: got like one more percent. The other day was prettypy 425 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: about I think we're eighty nine percent female. 426 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: We got that one percent more. 427 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: Send it out the message go or even just like 428 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: females listening, obviously we love you more, but like, I 429 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: don't know, if you have a younger brother, yeah you 430 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: don't have to tell them to listen to the pod. 431 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 3: But yeah, just like I don't know if you've never 432 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 3: heard Yeah, I don't know. I'm sure you tell you respectful. 433 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,959 Speaker 1: Like I think we do have some messages from some 434 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: boys saying like, oh, it's so insightful and like good 435 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: to hear you guys talking about girls like my friends 436 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: don't do that and stuff like that, like they don't 437 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: have I don't know, the exposure or a big brother, 438 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: a good role model in their life to like they're 439 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: not perfect by any means. We say somethings wrong, but 440 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: like we try our best to make i don't know, 441 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: dating better an equal. 442 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 2: Nice Yeah, a nice world. We were. 443 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, I was gonna keep talking. I was gonna 444 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: say I was looking at confession sessions the other day. Yeah, 445 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: we're organizing it, and there were so many like bad 446 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: dates of all these dudes doing these trash and I 447 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: was like, fuck, I'm not exposed to this, it's so bad. 448 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I've never really been in just like a 449 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 3: bad date. Apart from thinking like yeah, I just didn't go. 450 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: Well we did because we go. 451 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: On them with girls and most of the time we're 452 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: normal and then the girls are normal than but for 453 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: the girls, like ninety percent of the dudes are just 454 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: like rocking up drunk. They're rocking up, smelling, they're rocking 455 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: imagine rocking up drunk. 456 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 2: And I was like, well, I was like, I just 457 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 2: just don't care. I actually was on a date once. 458 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 3: Okay, I haven't been on a million dates, like I 459 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 3: just like, but I was on a date once where 460 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 3: it was just like, you know, just. 461 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 2: Went out for dinner at a restaurant. 462 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and the girls on a date with actually 463 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 3: told me she said like, oh, this is like it 464 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 3: was actually I don't even think. 465 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: We really labeled as that labeled it as a date. 466 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 3: Probably, I mean like but it also long story, but 467 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 3: basically because it wasn't labeled as a date, she said, 468 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 3: she was like, this is better than some of the 469 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 3: dates I've been on that are actual dates. 470 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 2: And I was like, what do you mean? 471 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 3: She goes one time, I want on a date with 472 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 3: a guy and it was just like he told me 473 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 3: to meet him here and he was just with his 474 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 3: mates playing soccer. In the park and they got drunk 475 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 3: and then we went out and just got. 476 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: Some Every girl has a story of a bad date, 477 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: but every guy doesn't, because girls like get it to date. 478 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 2: Weird. 479 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, every girl has a story about a bad date, 480 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 3: but guys that's such a good point. 481 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: Because girls like they know it to date and they 482 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: put in like at least the minimal amount of effort. 483 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, the date. 484 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, let's move on, all right, Oddie, what I 485 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 3: want to bring up next is now, I think over 486 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 3: the years we. 487 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: Can say years now two years two. 488 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, over the years of the podcast, we are experienced. 489 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: I think it has been portrayed that, and it's not 490 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,959 Speaker 1: super wrong, but I think it's been portrayed that, Oddie, 491 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: you are more of a thinker. 492 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 2: And I am more of a non thinker. Is that 493 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 2: the word you're labeling as non figure? Now? Like, I 494 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 2: don't get it. I don't get a racing mind often, No, 495 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: But today, actually. 496 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 3: Something kind of weird happened to me and I was like, 497 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 3: and I was like, you know what, this Actually this. 498 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 2: Happens a bit. Maybe I do get a bit of 499 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 2: a racing mind. Okay, what are you thinking about? 500 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: So I would like you to send you through the 501 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: series of events that was going through my mind. So 502 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,239 Speaker 1: I was on my way to the gym and I 503 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: was pulling out of my driveway. 504 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 2: And across the road there was a lady walking a 505 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 2: little small blue staffy hugest dogs ever and this blue 506 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 2: staff he reminded me of a blue staff. You have 507 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 2: a mate of mine from school named Kle. 508 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 3: Yep, Okay you so, And I was like, oh, yeah, 509 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 3: I remember blue staff he named Kay And then like, 510 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 3: you know Kale And I was like, oh, I haven't 511 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 3: seen Kale for a while. 512 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 2: And then I was like, oh, you know what that 513 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 2: reminds me of. 514 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 3: It was one time when I was young and one 515 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 3: of the first times, like I was out and we 516 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 3: were and I was like doing something naughty. I was 517 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 3: smoking weed, right, and Kle was coming that night. But 518 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 3: my stepmom's name is Kate. 519 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: And I got a text from Kle saying tell the boys, 520 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: I'm on the way. But I thought it was Kate 521 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: that texted me tell the boys, I'm on the way. 522 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: And I remember freaking the fuck out. 523 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 3: And so I'm just driving the gym like thinking about 524 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 3: all this, right, and I was like, and I remember 525 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 3: freaking the fuck out. But then I double checked my phone. 526 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 2: I was about to go tell the boys like my 527 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 2: mom's on the way. And then I go out and I. 528 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 3: Was like, check my phone, and I. 529 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: Was like, oh, it was Kale. 530 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,239 Speaker 3: And I remember just being like the most relief I've 531 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 3: ever felt in my life that I didn't get caught. 532 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 2: But then. 533 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 3: And then that same night, another friend's mum that was 534 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 3: close with my step mom, Yeah, she actually came and 535 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 3: he wasn't answering his phone. She has dropping off some clothes, 536 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 3: so she came to the door and she saw everyone 537 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 3: in there. Obviously put two and two together. He goes 538 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 3: out and he's like, mom, don't come to the door. 539 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 3: And then she's she's like, while your eyes and he's like, 540 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 3: we went for a walk and it was windy. 541 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 2: Could cover it up. 542 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,239 Speaker 3: And so then then he thinks he covered it up 543 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 3: again or relieved together like she. 544 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,719 Speaker 2: Saw me there, she knows there, she knew what was happening. 545 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 3: And then and then like I think the next like 546 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 3: two days later, like the Monday at school, he goes, oh, yeah, 547 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 3: my mom, she like she knows what we were doing, 548 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 3: and she told me that she told you. 549 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 2: Almost I was like, shit, did you say? 550 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 3: It just gets It's like fuck it up. And so 551 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 3: that afternoon I went home and like, Kate actually wasn't 552 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 3: mad at me. Usually I would I know when she's mad, 553 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 3: like if she's about to like ring me for something, 554 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 3: she'd be waiting for daddy get home. 555 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 2: But she wouldn't talk to me that I just mad 556 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 2: at me. 557 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 3: But she wasn't actually mad at me. And I do 558 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 3: remember being like, okay, well, there's my chance to own up. 559 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:19,959 Speaker 3: So I owned up to Kate about it. And then 560 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 3: she goes, actually, such and such his mum did actually 561 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 3: tell me, but I didn't tell her. 562 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: I knew that, so she thinks I was just don'ting 563 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 2: up to it right. And then and then that afternoon, my. 564 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: Dad gets home and the first thing he says to 565 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: me is, so, what's this year about smoking dope? 566 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 3: And I was like what? And so I just had 567 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 3: to confess, and then he goes, Okay, well it looks 568 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 3: like we won't be hanging out with that friend anymore. 569 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 2: And so then I remember all from looking at a dog. 570 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 2: I remember all this stuff. Right. 571 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 3: It takes me to this mad like crazy like moment 572 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 3: in my past when I was young, and so their 573 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 3: their like resolution to this problem was like, well, look, 574 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 3: you know, you're not going to be hanging out with 575 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 3: that friend anymore, and. 576 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 2: Like you're not gonna you're not led Statu's house. Yeah, 577 00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 2: And so I said cool. 578 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 3: But what that led to was me just saying I 579 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 3: was staying at someone else's house and then staying at 580 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 3: his house. 581 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. And so I was like, I. 582 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 3: Wonder if they handled that in the right way, because 583 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 3: what else it did was I also, then, let's say 584 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 3: I was doing something bad. If something bad were to happen, 585 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 3: I would have been too scared to call them, Yes, 586 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 3: And now I know now that I definitely could have, 587 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 3: and maybe they would have been mad, but they would 588 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 3: prefer to me to be safe. So what I was 589 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 3: thinking was, I think that a good conversation to have 590 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 3: with our girlfriends, right, because we aren't we're the type 591 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 3: to be like we're with a girl because like. 592 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 2: We think we could see a future with them. 593 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 3: So I think a conversation we should have with our 594 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 3: girlfriends is Okay, let's say we have a son or 595 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 3: a daughter and they're fifteen sixteen, and we find out 596 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 3: they smoked weed. 597 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 2: How would you like to handle the situation because I 598 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 2: know how I would like to handle it. 599 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 3: So so what I want to know is, do you 600 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 3: think this is a good conversation we should have with 601 00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 3: our girlfriends. 602 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 2: I'm once I've had with you. 603 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: Oh no, I didn't do it with weed, but we 604 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: did it. I was talking about deep conversations we had. 605 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: We're talking about like raising kids and stuff, and it 606 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 1: came up to our upbringings, how our parents brought us up, 607 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: and we said, how would react if our children told 608 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: us they just got drunk, which is the same concept, 609 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: which he's maybe a little bit different, but oh yeah, yeah, 610 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, And that was how we would react. And like, 611 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: I know a lot of parents taking into alcohol, like 612 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: don't want the kids to touch our cocohol till they eighteen, 613 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: And what ends up happening is they go sneak out 614 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: from fifteen to eighteen exactly. And I had I said 615 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: to my girlfriend that I'm happy for them to drink 616 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: at sixteen. I'll buy it for them. I'll buy them 617 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: a fucking six pack or something. And I want to 618 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: make sure that they know they can ring me no 619 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 1: matter what, which I sort of had a similar thing. 620 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 2: I probably could have ran my parents. They probably wouldn't 621 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 2: have picked up. 622 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, because my parents would have been asleep because 623 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: I also didn't tell them where I was going, and 624 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 1: they didn't know what I was doing exactly. Yeah, it's 625 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: definitely a good conversation to have, and like also, I 626 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: think it also is really good understanding where your partner 627 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: and what she dealt with going kind of a stand. 628 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 3: So, yeah, where it went for me was like I 629 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 3: was the same, Like I would just you know, all 630 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 3: my friends would be going out and we would be 631 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 3: a little underage, Like we're not promoting that by any means. 632 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,239 Speaker 3: I think it's bad, but you know, you'd want to go, 633 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,479 Speaker 3: so you would lie to your parents. And there's every 634 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 3: chance in the world that they probably knew I was lying. Like, 635 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 3: thinking about it now, it's maybe they did. 636 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 1: Maybe they did, Like judge parroting too, because like we 637 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 1: say all these things, hey, I'm going to be a 638 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 1: healthy parent, and then like your kids are just gonna 639 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: lie to you anyway, you can't do anything about it. 640 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 3: And like by no means my parents strict, Yeah, and 641 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 3: I think they're the best parents ever. But it just 642 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 3: made me think and I was like, so what it 643 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 3: got me thinking was the way I would like to 644 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 3: deal with it, and I am actually because I thought 645 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 3: of it earlier, I haven't spoken to best since I 646 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 3: thought of this, but I'm actually really, I really am 647 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 3: keen to talk to her about it. 648 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: The way I would like to deal with it is 649 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 1: if I found out my kid got high or drunk, 650 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: I would just like to sit them down and be like, 651 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: first of all, if they were if they were keeping 652 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 1: it from me, I would just be like, look, I 653 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: know you know. 654 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 2: And the route I want. 655 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 3: To go is like maybe explain to them that the 656 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 3: reason why I don't drink and smoke, and then just 657 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 3: say to them like, look, obviously we don't want you 658 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 3: to be doing this like this is we want you 659 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 3: to be healthy and we want you to have a 660 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 3: childhood where you don't drink, I smoke, but we understand 661 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 3: that if it's if it's something you really want to do, 662 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 3: humans are pretty fucking clever and persistent and you're gonna 663 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 3: find a way whether we like it or not. So 664 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 3: all I want you to know is I don't want 665 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 3: you to do it, but if you're gonna do it 666 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 3: and something goes wrong, please call me. That's all I 667 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 3: think that's how I want to handle it. I don't 668 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 3: know if I can bring myself to buy my kid 669 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 3: alcohol underage, But I don't judge your decision of doing 670 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 3: that because the heeps of parents did it. 671 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: I know parents did it. 672 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: I would argue that you saying that you don't want 673 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: your kid to do it will make your kid want 674 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: to do it more. 675 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: And for you to figure. 676 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: Out that you didn't like drinking, you had to do it. Yeah, 677 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,719 Speaker 1: that's why you figured it out. Like it's all good 678 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: and well to tell someone that, like it's like we've 679 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: got past addiction, Like this is what I call It's like, yeah, 680 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: fucking sick dad, Like I just want to have phone 681 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: with my friends. That's what i'd be, like, I'm just 682 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: gonna drink. Then it's a good point. There's so many 683 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: different ways in avenues to do it, and I'm more on 684 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: the approach of like he's my son, I've brought him 685 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: up or my daughter. I've brought them up in a 686 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: way that I think is healthy enough for them to 687 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: figure out their own path. I want them to try 688 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: it in a healthy manner rather than like, I don't know, 689 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: drink some shitty alcohol that they found on the side 690 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: of the road and got some fucking older boy to 691 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: buy it from him, or some shit true from a 692 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: reliable source, and then they figure out from the self 693 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: that they don't like it, and then it's their own journey. 694 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: Like there's only so much you can do as a 695 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: peran and it's like guiding them rather than telling them 696 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: what you think. 697 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 2: They should do. 698 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 699 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 2: Fuck, but I see what I can see why you 700 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 2: would do yours too. 701 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 3: I reckon, maybe maybe this could be a good Okay, ready, 702 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 3: so your kid goes out, gets drunk, and then you 703 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 3: find out, you have that conversation with him and you go, okay, look, 704 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 3: I know you're gonna do it. 705 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 2: Let me show you how to do it right. 706 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: I thought when before you're talking about weed, I thought 707 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: you were going to be like, all right, I'll show 708 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: you how to roll the fucking Yeah. 709 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 2: Let me show you how to do it right. 710 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 3: And just because like this is terrible to promote, like 711 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 3: I'm by no means I'm telling anyone to do this, 712 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 3: but like you can you ever have one of the 713 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 3: we've had the hangovers before where you have the hangover 714 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 3: and you're just like like, I'm not doing that again. 715 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's like you've. 716 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 3: Got to give him one of them. 717 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 2: Honestly, at eight, like it's hard to get one of them. 718 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 2: It actually is. You bounce back, yeah, so quick. You 719 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 2: can drink anything like it. 720 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: When you start hitting twenty twenty one, you're like, fuck, man, 721 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm getting older. 722 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 3: Shit. I went to when I was away with family 723 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 3: a couple weeks ago, my uncle and his kid they 724 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 3: were drinking together, Like his kid's eighteen, and he's older, 725 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 3: like obviously in his forties. 726 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 2: Or something, and they were drinking the same amount. 727 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, And what's crazy is my uncle got wasted and 728 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 3: the kid did and he could barely walk. He had 729 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 3: to be like carried to the car, like helped into 730 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 3: the car. He was wasted, didn't really remember any thing. 731 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 3: But with his son, he just like was holding a 732 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 3: conversation with people when you drank the same amount, apparently 733 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 3: you drink holding conversation. He felt a little bit dusty 734 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 3: the next day, but it was just I was just like, 735 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 3: how the fuck are you holding? Like the experience your 736 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 3: dad have on you, but he clearly is just his 737 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 3: age is getting to him. 738 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And it's funny, like the different relationships 739 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: that I don't know. Different families have with alcohol too, 740 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: like you see it on like Christmas and everything, like 741 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: oh you want to be here, like we're socializing, Like no, 742 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:31,479 Speaker 1: I'm not a cocaine And it's always that awkward now 743 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,479 Speaker 1: that I'm turning, like now you're older and like you 744 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: like it's assumed that you drink beer. It's just like 745 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: whenever you go to a social setting with like older people, 746 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: like you want to be And I was like, nah, 747 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: yeah I coke me just coke zero preferred place. 748 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so funny. 749 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 3: Sometimes I'll be like, I gotta get roundy tonight full 750 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 3: sugar coke. 751 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 2: Sugar coke for me. 752 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: It's funny thinking about I actually enjoy thinking about like 753 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,479 Speaker 1: how old be as a parent. I was even picturing 754 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: like you sitting down with a little kid, and I 755 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: was thinking. 756 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 2: I was thinking, like this is what I was. 757 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 3: This is why I brought it up, because Okay, my 758 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 3: whole start of this was like I'm not a deep thinker, 759 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 3: but clearly I am a little bit because I went 760 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 3: through this whole because Okay, what else I was doing 761 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 3: while driving at the gym. 762 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 2: Was I went through this whole like rigmarole in my 763 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 2: brain of what I would be saying to my kid. 764 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 3: And then also I was like, I don't know why 765 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,719 Speaker 3: I was thinking of this. I was saying it in 766 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 3: my head to my kid. Don't know what my kid 767 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 3: looks like. But then I was also like, Okay, so 768 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 3: that's one way I could do it. What about if 769 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 3: I was saying this. What if I was trying to 770 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 3: teach my kid a lesson but him and his mum 771 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 3: were divorced, And then I'm like, what would I be 772 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 3: saying to his stepmom? Like looks like I've got to 773 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 3: call his mom? And I was like, And then it's 774 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 3: got me thinking of like what's the dynamic. Like when 775 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 3: let's say I'm single and I meet a girl and 776 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 3: she's got a kid, Okay, I become the kid's stepdad. 777 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 2: Like, what's what's the dynamic? 778 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 3: Like when she kind of has to be in touch 779 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 3: with this guy and it's like you're fully going to 780 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 3: understand that, but like does she need to? 781 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 2: Is it? 782 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 3: Is it disrespectful if she just contacts this guy? 783 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 2: Like talking about I think I'm a deep thinker. If 784 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 2: you can let you can be whatever you want to be. 785 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: Man, I think I'm a deep thinker can be whatever 786 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: you want to be, honestly. 787 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 2: And I'm and I do this often. 788 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: I inspiral, keep it going, try and spire in like 789 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: a good direction. 790 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 2: Like at the start of that story, I was like, 791 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 2: where the fuck is Jake going of this? I will aspiral 792 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 2: how I want to spiral? 793 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 3: Alright, I will spiral it whatever way I feel like spiring, 794 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 3: whatever way my brain takes me. 795 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 2: That conversation could have went to, like so like how 796 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 2: good was we even? Or sixteen? That's where the spiral 797 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 2: could have gone. Oh yeah. 798 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: But so everyone out there that is like, how do 799 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: you want how do you want us to label you now? 800 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 2: So I'm a deep thinker and you're going. 801 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 3: To say everyone out there that listens to relateable. 802 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 2: Also a deep thinker. I think we've got something different. 803 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 2: This is what you say to everyone. 804 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 3: Okay, I listen to this podcast, and I bet you 805 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 3: used to say Oddie, real deep thing, Jake, pretty willy nil. 806 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 3: I wanted what I want you to say now is 807 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 3: Addie real deep thinker Jake. 808 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 2: Even deeper. 809 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: People can take that if they want, we have to 810 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: change your name to mummy, mate. 811 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 2: We can be mummy and mummy. 812 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 1: Alrighty Jake, the biggest theme on this podcast is relationships. 813 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 2: Hands down and deep thinking. Yeah, now it is. 814 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: After this episode, mate, we're just going to be going 815 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: deeper and deeper and deeper. Everyone's like, bring back the. 816 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 2: Deep chat everything Jake thinks about his deep guys, I'll 817 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 2: start labeling everything deep spiral and what is. 818 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: The key fundamental that makes a relationship work? 819 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 2: Band? Trust? Didn't tell you beforehand what we're talking about. 820 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,399 Speaker 2: Now you're such a deep thinker, man. That was good. 821 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,439 Speaker 1: All I think about is trust and love and and 822 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: once trust is gone, it's sort of like is the 823 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: relationship worth fighting for? And I wanted to do some 824 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: research on how can you regain trust and rebuild trust? 825 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: And actually, actually the literature, Jake was it was not 826 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: quite what I was looking for because it's kind of 827 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: just the choice, Like there was no there was no 828 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: science behind how to trust someone again. 829 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 2: It was more like if you've lost trust, yeah yeah, yeah. 830 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: So what I did find though, this was very interesting 831 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,280 Speaker 1: and sort of you can make a more informed decision 832 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: if you understand how trust is formed, and then you 833 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: can make the informed decision of if you want to 834 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: rebuild trust. We've said person, So this is the key 835 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: fundamentals of what makes up trust in a relationship. It 836 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 1: is in reference to Francis Freer. I think her name 837 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: is sed Ted talk. It was in reference to business, 838 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: so I put it into personal relationships. 839 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 2: So oh interesting, Okay, yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah. 840 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: She was talking on like businessusiness, business, and I was like, nah, nah, 841 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 1: fuck business. 842 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 2: I want to talk about love. Our business is loved. 843 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, So the foundation of all relationships. If we trust 844 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: one another, the world would be such a better place. 845 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: But what if trust is broken? Can there be redemption? 846 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: Should you give someone a second chance? How do you 847 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 1: build trust in the first place? 848 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 2: All? Right, to build trust. 849 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: We must understand its components first, which there are three. 850 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,760 Speaker 1: Number one authenticity. Authenticity you know what that is, yep, 851 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: being true to yourself. Number two belief in what you're saying. Okay, 852 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: So it's like when I'm telling you something, I actually 853 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: believe it myself. 854 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:36,720 Speaker 2: You're not saying it as a question. 855 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: And it's also like it's basically saying I'm not lying 856 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: when I'm saying something. Okay, it's like coming from like 857 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: this is actually what happened, yea, like in my eyes. 858 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: And the third one is empathy, okay, which is the 859 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 1: biggest one. When all these three things are working, we 860 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: have great trust. But as soon as one of these 861 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: components start to wabble, the trust starts to feel shaky. 862 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 1: And that's when a relationship starts to feel shaky. And 863 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: if your trust starts the wobble, you need to understand 864 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: where and why trust start to feel wobbly and have 865 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 1: already made prescription to overcome it. 866 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 2: Cool, can I oh, you're gonna go on? Yeah? 867 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 3: I was gonna say so. Basically like, if you're like, fuck, 868 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:22,399 Speaker 3: why don't I trust my partner? It's looking for the reason. Yes, 869 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 3: So the reason could be something they've done, or the 870 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,240 Speaker 3: reason could be that you have trust issues from the past. 871 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,879 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, And it's understanding where it's coming from 872 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: and whether or not you as a team can overlook 873 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: that thing. And they're the three pillars where you look 874 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: for it first and then understand, Oh, that's why I 875 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: feel like it's getting a bit shaky and I don't 876 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,760 Speaker 1: trust them, So to three pillars. The most common wobble 877 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 1: is empathy. People believe that their partner is too distracted 878 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: and in it for individual gain. They're not in it 879 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: for the greater good of the relationship. So here's the prescription. 880 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: Identify where, when, and who is distracting your partner's empathy. 881 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: That should trace pretty perfectly to the cause of why 882 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: your partner has lack of empathy and trust has started 883 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: to wabble. And from here you can see the situation 884 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,839 Speaker 1: for what it is and ask yourself if you think 885 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: your partner can overcome these distractions. 886 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 2: So that makes sense, Yeah, I was. I've found that 887 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 2: like really insightful. 888 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: It's just like it's understanding why they don't have empathy, 889 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: and that's why the trust is feeling like wait, that's 890 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,720 Speaker 1: he's getting distracted by them. Yeah, and honestly by that bitch. 891 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: She emphasized that the first step to regaining empathy in 892 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: a relationship is putting down the phone, respecting each other's boundaries. 893 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: When it comes to all the apps, it is so 894 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: difficult to build from a start or even rebuild empathy 895 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: in the presence of a phone. 896 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 2: Whoa, because it's a distraction. It's a distraction. 897 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: It distracts your mind from this beautiful person in front 898 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: of you, and there's all these different determinants that are 899 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: like do I love her or do I like this 900 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: fucking chicken on Instagram. It's half nagud or. 901 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 2: Like wait, talking about phones is Yeah. 902 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,800 Speaker 3: Beth was in her bathroom the other day and I 903 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 3: was watching the video of lego on TikTok and I 904 00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:59,919 Speaker 3: was in this video of TikTok logo. 905 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 906 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:02,359 Speaker 3: She was saying stuff to me and I was like, 907 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,359 Speaker 3: oh yeah, yeah, like i'd pause it, oh yeah, yeah, 908 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 3: put it back on it. She'd be like, are you 909 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 3: even listening? And I'm like, no, I'm watching. 910 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, to throw my phone away so I could listen, 911 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 2: and I was like, sorry, I'm being rude. 912 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: That's the perfect example when like in my head I 913 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: was thinking, like if someone does something really bad, how 914 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: can you regain trust? And that's not really there's no 915 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: real answer to that. It's more like those little things 916 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: of like trusting each other and how to build the 917 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 1: best foundations to build a strong bond. And that's if 918 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: someone's doing something like that consistently, and then best say, 919 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: best started to trust you less because you were never 920 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,720 Speaker 1: listening to her and you're thinking about it, You're. 921 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 3: Just stop talking to me, Yeah, just trust that I'm listening. Yes, yes, yes, 922 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 3: But that's. 923 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 2: An example of where you can rebuild it. 924 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: You can't rebuild it with all these terrible things like cheating, 925 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: But these little minute things that add up and make 926 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: a relationship unstable and untrusting is what you can rebuild from. Yes, 927 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 1: So the second most important component of trust is belief 928 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: in what you're saying, basically if you're lying or not. 929 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: This is all about communication. When emotions are involved, most 930 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: people really can't spit out what they're trying to say. 931 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 1: They just get jumbled up and confuse all the thoughts 932 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: and feelings in their mind, and the trust starts to 933 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: wobble more and more and you can't really get out 934 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: what you're saying or what happened in your eyes. So 935 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: the solution is really simple. And I don't never the 936 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: thought of this, but it makes so much sense. And 937 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,280 Speaker 1: when I'm trying to talk to my partner about something 938 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: that like a tricky conversation, I kind of beat around 939 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: the bush. 940 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 2: Same not the right thing to do. 941 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,720 Speaker 1: So when you spit out your point of view, spit 942 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: it out in a crisp half sentence, with like a 943 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: topics sentence, like at the start, that's what you're trying 944 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 1: to get across straight away. Yeah, and then give your 945 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 1: supporting evidence. So you can spit this out to your 946 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 1: partner so they can digest it really good. The information 947 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: is in like a good format to digest. And also 948 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 1: it's important in a relationship to let the person finish. 949 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 1: But normally when you're having a heated argument, the person 950 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 1: then goes, no, no, this is. 951 00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 2: How it is. 952 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: So if you spit out your point of view in 953 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 1: the first line, no matter what, you've got your if 954 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 1: it was a cross, yeah, you've got it across, no 955 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: matter what, and you can both digest the information healthily. Yes, 956 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: which is really insightful because I often just would be 957 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: better around the bush. Try and like, I don't know, 958 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: but you worry about their feelings. 959 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 3: You don't want to say it in a way where 960 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 3: you're hurting their feelings because you don't want to hurt 961 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 3: their feelings. 962 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 2: You just want them to know that they've potentially hurt 963 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 2: your feelings. 964 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: And it's happened to me before, like we've had a conversation. 965 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:22,919 Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't really say what I thought 966 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 1: I was going to say, Like I didn't get across 967 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 1: what I actually felt because we started to have a conversation. 968 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 2: I should really start with. 969 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 3: And it's not her fault that you didn't have the conversation. 970 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 2: That's just what happens. It's like, fuck, I didn't say 971 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:35,280 Speaker 2: it at the start. 972 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what gets That's just what happens in a relationship. 973 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 2: I am. I really really need to work on that. Yeah. 974 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: And the third component is authenticity. Humans can sniff out 975 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 1: the moment when someone isn't being their authentic self. So 976 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: in many ways, the prescription is clear, be you. 977 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 2: You don't want to have an unauthentic wobble? Do you? 978 00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 2: Be you? 979 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: If you hold back who you are, you're less likely 980 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: to be trusted, which I thought was a great sentence. 981 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 2: If you're being like if you. 982 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 1: It's also like, when I thought about that, a lot 983 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: of people think I'm too much, I won't be who 984 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 1: I actually am, and then there's no trust there because 985 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 1: they're hiding are they think they're going to be too much. 986 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: So it's really like playing on the fact of be 987 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: exactly who you think. 988 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 2: You are, know who you want your part, you don't 989 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 2: want you to be yeah yeah yeah yeah. 990 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: So to build trust, regain trust, and trust one another, 991 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,919 Speaker 1: it all comes back to being your authentic self. Where 992 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: would you want to wear, pay less attention to what 993 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: you think people want to hear, and far more attention 994 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: to what your authentic, awesome self needs to say, and 995 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: in your relationship, build an environment that is safe to 996 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 1: be the person you're meant to be. 997 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, now I like that. It was really insightful. 998 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 1: Like when I was researching it, that's not the information 999 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,280 Speaker 1: I was trying to find. 1000 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 3: No, you well, yeah, you probably had like this preconceived 1001 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 3: idea of what would that be like spat out to you. Yeah, 1002 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,720 Speaker 3: And it's basically the fundamentals of where trust come from 1003 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 3: and how to work on them in a healthy manner. 1004 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,880 Speaker 3: And it all comes back to just being yourself, believe 1005 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 3: in what you're saying, and try and say it in 1006 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 3: a clear, concise way. 1007 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1008 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 3: The thing I've taken away with the most from that 1009 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 3: is definitely the if, like there is a chat to 1010 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 3: be had, you need to know at least like you can't, 1011 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 3: like you need to go into it knowing the first 1012 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 3: sentence instead of instead of trying to spit like jibber 1013 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 3: jabber until the sentence comes to you. 1014 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, like you really need to put so maybe, Yeah, 1015 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 2: you really do need to put thought into it. 1016 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 1: And for me, my biggest takeaway was like empathy when 1017 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,879 Speaker 1: my girlfriend's talking and stuff, get off your phone, Noddy, 1018 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,359 Speaker 1: Like I don't need to fucking reply to Jake about 1019 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: business right now? No, exactly, yeah, which I do all 1020 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,360 Speaker 1: the time, and I can wait yeah yeah, yeah. Honestly 1021 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: all the time, I'm like, oh, I just got to 1022 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 1: do this one second. And I should be like I 1023 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: should be like, no, I didn't need to do this. 1024 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:57,919 Speaker 1: I don't even need to tell Jakes for the fucking 1025 00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: wait five minutes. 1026 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, after I'm exactly the same. Yeah, I am so bad. 1027 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 3: Like for some reason, I'll be like, like if we 1028 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 3: have a WhatsApp chat with our manager ping, or if 1029 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 3: you message me, sometimes i'd be like, oh, you know, 1030 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 3: I'll just be like like it's. 1031 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 2: A zero reason as to why. 1032 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm like, oh, I need to figure that 1033 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,399 Speaker 3: out now, or I need to reply to that now. 1034 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,359 Speaker 2: I know, like and I was, but really, I think 1035 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 2: about this. 1036 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,399 Speaker 3: If either one of us was to message the other 1037 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 3: about something important per se, and we messaged and it 1038 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 3: took maybe five minutes to reply, if I was desperate 1039 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:36,360 Speaker 3: for an answer. 1040 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 2: I'd call you. 1041 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 3: I'd call you until you answered. If I was desperate. 1042 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 3: Nothing's ever that desperate. 1043 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 1: No ever, we just build it up in our heads 1044 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 1: that it is for no reason. So that's a takeaway 1045 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: for me because I definitely build up this false thing 1046 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 1: in my head that like I've got to do this 1047 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 1: right now and I'm not going to realize that this 1048 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: is affecting my relationship in a way. 1049 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's good. 1050 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,399 Speaker 3: One thing Beth is good at actually is like if 1051 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 3: she is doing something where she knows it needs her 1052 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 3: attention and I'm talking, She'll be like, I'm so sorry, 1053 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,919 Speaker 3: this is like something I have to sort right now. 1054 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,799 Speaker 3: She's like I'm listening, like, yeah, I'm sorry, this is 1055 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 3: like something that's like red alert, and I'll. 1056 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 2: Just be like, oh shit, like I'll wait, Yeah, that's 1057 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 2: good too. I think there's nothing wrong with that. 1058 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,360 Speaker 3: I think it's like just let the person know that 1059 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 3: like I don't, and by no means so I feel 1060 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 3: like less important than what she's doing. But at that 1061 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 3: moment I kind of end because what I'm talking about 1062 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 3: is just dumb. I'm talking about like, oh, how good 1063 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 3: was that sex we had last night? And she's got 1064 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 3: someone at work being like I'm gonna quit, Like I 1065 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,839 Speaker 3: don't know, like she's like that like what I'm talking 1066 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:30,800 Speaker 3: about is stupid. 1067 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, And honestly, I've started to implement a little bit 1068 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 1: more like I'm sure every person listening in a relationship 1069 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 1: will been in a relationship. 1070 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:38,840 Speaker 2: As soon as there's a bit of downtime. 1071 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: They just go on their phone and like instead of 1072 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 1: like sitting on the bed or sitting on the couch 1073 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 1: waiting for their partner, I don't know, do something like 1074 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,319 Speaker 1: that like best doing, they go on their phone and 1075 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 1: detached from like the conversation and the environment they're in. 1076 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 1: It was like I've been trying to put especially when 1077 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 1: I'm with my part to put the phone down and 1078 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 1: just like wait passionately and think about like us, which 1079 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:54,800 Speaker 1: I think is really healthy, healthy. 1080 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:56,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, wonder what we could do to try and put 1081 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 2: our phones down. 1082 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: And so I've been trying to charge in a different room. Yeah, 1083 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 1: like when a planners. 1084 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but like that's one of my STIPs. Really, these 1085 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 2: things fucking ruined the world. 1086 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 3: But they do, like even if thing about like if 1087 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 3: like this isn't a bad time to go on my phone, 1088 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 3: but yeah, like if Beth is like doing her makeup, 1089 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 3: I'll just go on my phone to pass the time. Yeah, 1090 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,799 Speaker 3: but I mean but thinking about like I could just 1091 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 3: be like I could just lay on her bed and 1092 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,760 Speaker 3: fucking I don't know, have a chat with her about 1093 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 3: what her week has coming up, just simple shit like 1094 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 3: because you never run out of stuff to talk about. 1095 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,719 Speaker 1: No, And I think that's that's working on empathy and 1096 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 1: being there with her. 1097 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's healthy, so yeah, why like we have that. 1098 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 3: It's like like a smoker or someone that vapes a 1099 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 3: lot of the time, it's like they're addicted to the nicotine. 1100 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 3: But another the other thing they're addicted to is the 1101 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 3: action m you know, out of your pocket, vape or cigarette. 1102 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,719 Speaker 2: They're addicted to that action. I really want to get 1103 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 2: less addicted to my phone. 1104 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 3: So we're addicted to as soon as our brain knows 1105 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:56,840 Speaker 3: that we have a minute of nothing, give me some 1106 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 3: fucking thing, give me something to do, give me some dopamine, man, 1107 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 3: Like I would you know, I'm really really like this morning, 1108 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 3: I ate breakfast and I was going about to go 1109 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,399 Speaker 3: on the balcony and then I was like, yeah, I'm 1110 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 3: gonna sit on the table and just scroll my phone. 1111 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 3: And then I'm and I made the active decision to 1112 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 3: do it, and I was like, yeah, I shouldn't be 1113 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:16,440 Speaker 3: doing this, but I did it anyway. 1114 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:16,840 Speaker 2: You know. 1115 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 3: It's like it's like it's like I catch myself, but 1116 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,319 Speaker 3: I still am just so addicted that I'm. 1117 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 1: Like, it's like a drug. It's the same concept. It's 1118 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 1: the same you gotta taper off, and like it's so 1119 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 1: much easier than done. But I think every well, update everyone, Yeah, 1120 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try that. I'm gonna write it down so 1121 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:31,320 Speaker 1: I remember. 1122 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe maybe we should go while Yeah, we should 1123 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 3: make our phone wall screen. 1124 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,759 Speaker 2: Put your phone down? Why why are you picking this 1125 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 2: up right now? Put it down? If it's pointless? Holy shit, 1126 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 2: it's this is why we talk. You're a deep think about. 1127 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 3: I was like, here's one more thing that you could 1128 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,359 Speaker 3: do if you feel just connected with your partner while 1129 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:50,840 Speaker 3: you're out. 1130 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,279 Speaker 2: Their house, and it's because you're on your phone. 1131 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 3: Just FaceTime because then you're on your phone, but I 1132 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 3: mean like while you're in bed together. 1133 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 2: Just FaceTime, yeah, instead of texting. Yeah. 1134 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,839 Speaker 3: No, I mean like, as that joke didn't land away 1135 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 3: well just on the episode. 1136 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 2: Sorry, you're not the funny one anymore, mane, You're the 1137 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 2: deep thing. I didn't think you were going to be 1138 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 2: putting jokes out there. 1139 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 3: Sorry, guys, Okay, thank you very much for listening. We 1140 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 3: are up to page eleven in one hundred and nine 1141 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:30,320 Speaker 3: Things to say to shatter the male ego. All right, quote, 1142 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,879 Speaker 3: say to a man in the next Batman movie. 1143 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,120 Speaker 2: The Joker should be a woman. Okay. 1144 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,799 Speaker 3: When he presses you on this, say well, women are 1145 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 3: more prosecuted in society, so I think she'd have actual 1146 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,319 Speaker 3: things to be upset about. As he stares at you, 1147 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 3: stunned in silence, finish him off by saying and maybe 1148 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 3: Tom Holland can play Batman. Caution, saying this to the 1149 00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 3: wrong man will turn him into the Joker in real life. 1150 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 2: It's so random and wild. So do we have a 1151 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 2: is it batwoman? No? You me? And the female woman 1152 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 2: isn't a cat woman? A catwoman? And there's a bat woman? 1153 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and like the female version of the Joker is 1154 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 3: Harley Quinn. But I think it's funny to be like 1155 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 3: the Jokers should be a female. 1156 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 1: So I really want to jump on this bandwagon of 1157 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 1: thinking you're a deep thinker. Yeah, but then like the 1158 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 1: other side of the world is you were on TikTok 1159 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 1: scrolling and you saw a book that said one hundred 1160 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 1: and one words pissed men off, and you fucking bought us. 1161 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 2: We bought it. Sick. How much was the away twenty 1162 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,279 Speaker 2: five came from? 1163 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,880 Speaker 3: Like Finland because that no one had it like a 1164 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:40,840 Speaker 3: finished bookstore. 1165 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,359 Speaker 2: Such a such a deep thinker. 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