Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to the Dai Teller of Feral podcast on
Speaker 1: Brent Reeding by Tyson Jackson Pam Whaley. Finals Time Finals
Speaker 1: in the Air. We've been at the finals launched this morning.
Speaker 1: We've all been there. The first of all, We've got
Speaker 1: to get to the bottom of that, because you're what
Speaker 1: is what are you wearing?
Speaker 2: What is doing?
Speaker 1: What is going on?
Speaker 3: Man? Yeah? I made a silly but now with the
Speaker 3: Great Adam Mobs, who is not here right now, but
Speaker 3: we are initially talking about getting tattoos for who would
Speaker 3: win and lose a spoon bowl. I talked him out
Speaker 3: of that because I didn't want to mark my body
Speaker 3: and because my great Tigers suffered a close loss to
Speaker 3: the Eels. I have to wear this all day today.
Speaker 1: Just for one day, I think, so spit used and unwashed.
Speaker 1: It's got a stench to it.
Speaker 3: Or this was actually this jersey.
Speaker 1: It doesn't look a bit grubby.
Speaker 3: It was made before I was born, so it's older
Speaker 3: than twenty one. Yeah, and feel really uncomfortable in it.
Speaker 3: I'm getting a lot of weird looks. Yeah, there's also
Speaker 3: a little bit smaller me out of Mobs is not
Speaker 3: the largest man in the world.
Speaker 1: So and you're.
Speaker 3: Ripped, you are. I'm feeling out this jersey quite nicely.
Speaker 1: Actually, I didn't have that on the notes. We should
Speaker 1: start with that. Yeah, I loved that. That was a
Speaker 1: weird and wacky game. It lived up to its billing.
Speaker 1: Well sort of been in one respect, but really disappointing
Speaker 1: end of the season for the Targets. I mean they've
Speaker 1: showed promise at times this year and then they've had
Speaker 1: times and I've just looked bang average and this was
Speaker 1: a bang average night. What do you think?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I thought it was fitting right just after this,
Speaker 2: after the season that they've had. It kind of it
Speaker 2: seemed fitting that that's the way that it ended.
Speaker 3: Well, something up the way the Tigers lost. That was
Speaker 3: how they've lost majority of the game this year, and
Speaker 3: just by shooting themselves in the foot. Yeah, they you know,
Speaker 3: they looked good at times and then look bad at
Speaker 3: times and then someone gets sent off and you know,
Speaker 3: a sin bin leads to sixty points. Yeah. Look, I
Speaker 3: mean the Eels, I don't think the Eels were greater.
Speaker 3: I think the Tigers were great. Was exactly what it
Speaker 3: was supposed to be, and as a Tiger's fan, I
Speaker 3: look forward to next year Jerome. We trust they can
Speaker 3: score points paramount.
Speaker 1: They've shown that most of the year. They can score points,
Speaker 1: and you know, they looked at times, they looked played
Speaker 1: really good foot in this game at times. Actually, I
Speaker 1: mean it's hard to judge how good they were because
Speaker 1: your opposition was pretty poor. But you know, if I'm
Speaker 1: Jason Rowles, come in next year with this footy team,
Speaker 1: stick Mitchell Moses and this side Zach Lomax. You obviously
Speaker 1: lose Blaze to Langey, but this socide, I reckon that
Speaker 1: should be right in the mix of the top eight
Speaker 1: next year.
Speaker 2: They should be, Yeah, especially with you know, as you said,
Speaker 2: Mitch Moses being there more regularly. We obviously saw what
Speaker 2: he could do during Origin this year. He really is
Speaker 2: one of the best players in the competition and just
Speaker 2: the hole that he leaves in that side is huge.
Speaker 2: So there should be plenty of change there.
Speaker 1: A little bit of a changer too, because I'm we
Speaker 1: expect read and Ken Gill had to go. He led
Speaker 1: them out, he kicked the goal. He's second half the season,
Speaker 1: He's been great.
Speaker 3: Big minutes as well. You don't get that from many
Speaker 3: front rollers like he. I was at the game, and
Speaker 3: you know you're kind of wishing he would come off
Speaker 3: the field for a little bit, and he was on
Speaker 3: there for.
Speaker 1: A lot of it. I was the only thing about
Speaker 1: Regg he's grown this mustache. It's too long, it is unkept,
Speaker 1: and he was I was interning for triple afterwards.
Speaker 3: Spit.
Speaker 2: You know it's too long. Yeahs to be trimmed.
Speaker 1: I don't think going wrong with Regge at the pavement.
Speaker 3: He's taking inspiration from the great Freddie Mercury.
Speaker 1: We'll expect to see.
Speaker 2: Do you say anyth think about this fit?
Speaker 1: No, I didn't know.
Speaker 2: On a podcast, but.
Speaker 3: Reggie is a big watcher of this podcast as well.
Speaker 1: I think he's been he'll be a great signing likely
Speaker 1: the Dragons. I would expect he'll be a great signing.
Speaker 1: Miss him. I mean, I think he's been really good
Speaker 1: this year for them. So interesting message. You mentioned Jerome
Speaker 1: coming next year. You expect that to have a significant
Speaker 1: change on the Tigers.
Speaker 3: Being at the Finals launch this morning and talking to
Speaker 3: Stephen Crichton, I mean, if you look twelve months ago,
Speaker 3: what we were saying about the Bulldogs and where we
Speaker 3: thought the Bulldogs would go, especially like Stephen crimes are
Speaker 3: same to how much impact can you really have? I mean,
Speaker 3: we've seen Jerome at his best, and Jerome's closer to
Speaker 3: the middle of the field, you know, he's a half.
Speaker 3: I think I do the comp next year, Probably not,
Speaker 3: but probably I do. Yeah, I'm not gonna say definitely not. Okay,
Speaker 3: I still think the Bulldogs have a chance within the
Speaker 3: comp this year. So enough, but I see I do
Speaker 3: see improved then saying yeah, Skuys like Jack Bird coming
Speaker 3: race Hunts, Taruvera, Taruva.
Speaker 1: They missed out in Corey hawsbro this morning. Corey's had
Speaker 1: a meeting with Ricky over the weekend in camera and
Speaker 1: he's now going to stay at the Raiders Corey Hawsbrough.
Speaker 1: So that's a bit disappointing for them because they're in
Speaker 1: the mix for Corey.
Speaker 3: But but you know, there's it's a long pre season
Speaker 3: and yeah, I mean, I'm just going to forget about
Speaker 3: this year.
Speaker 1: I reckon. I know I how the Wooden spoon was
Speaker 1: at stake, but I reckon, you can sort of al
Speaker 1: must put a line through that game and just move
Speaker 1: on and forget about it, because.
Speaker 3: It's almost better that we lost, because I mean, at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, if we finish and we're
Speaker 3: all happy that we've the wooden spoon. I mean, if
Speaker 3: that's what you're going into the preseason thinking about that,
Speaker 3: you're not going to You're not going to live up
Speaker 3: to where you need to be, and then there needs
Speaker 3: to be a lot of improvement there.
Speaker 1: Now you're obviously a Tigers fan, I'm a Broncos fan.
Speaker 1: We should should touch on them because they were absolutely
Speaker 1: diabolical against the Storm on Thursday and that was a
Speaker 1: long time ago now, but that performance and they've had
Speaker 1: a shocking into this year. Reviews are going on and
Speaker 1: the Melbourne are a very good team, but the Broncos
Speaker 1: to lose that way, it's just it's not good enough.
Speaker 2: No, you feel really, I feel really sorry for fans.
Speaker 2: I think it's just considering the last twelve months and
Speaker 2: kind of where they were at this time last season
Speaker 2: and just how much hope and yeah energy there was
Speaker 2: around the place, and then to be sitting here now
Speaker 2: and I know a lot of Broncos fans just turned
Speaker 2: the TV off, didn't watch.
Speaker 1: It, which I turned the TV off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now there's such a good team Melbourne.
Speaker 1: We'll get to them. Eventually, but you know there's been
Speaker 1: order to talk about. As I said reviews in the
Speaker 1: off season at Brisbane, there'll be some change. Well, there
Speaker 1: is change because that Kev's changing his entire coaching staff
Speaker 1: with Trent Barrett and Benny Tea going there. They might
Speaker 1: shuffle a few players around. I imagine there's some leaving.
Speaker 1: But when the key for them is you've got to
Speaker 1: get Reeese Walsh back, You've got to get pain. I
Speaker 1: mean Pain was back, but I'm going to get Reynolds
Speaker 1: playing back to full fitness, playing their best footage because
Speaker 1: when everyone's fit and available, they're squad is as good
Speaker 1: as just about anything in the comp But they just
Speaker 1: didn't fire up this year. It's really disappointing.
Speaker 2: I think now. I think this season and particularly this
Speaker 2: back end of the year, it's just been, you know,
Speaker 2: lost after loss after loss, and it's just gets embarrassing
Speaker 2: and more embarrassing and more embarrassing, and you can just
Speaker 2: see them go into their shell and then by this
Speaker 2: final round they just wanted to be over with.
Speaker 1: We watched his highlights and Jerome Hughes everywhere and it
Speaker 1: was a masterclass from him. We spoke to the captains
Speaker 1: this morning about yeah, they thought it'd win to delim
Speaker 1: this year, and a lot of them said, Jerome Hughes,
Speaker 1: he's been that good, but yeah, that's what they brought
Speaker 1: out in Reynolds for and Jerome schooled him and everyone
Speaker 1: else on Thursday. He was unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Let's let's not forget that as poor as the Broncos
Speaker 3: have been, they they have been without significant players throughout
Speaker 3: their entire season. That we did a.
Speaker 1: List from them and contni with the other ones who went.
Speaker 3: We went through a timeline of some of the disruptions
Speaker 3: they've had during their year, and it's been probably one
Speaker 3: of the most unsmooth rides of any club all year.
Speaker 3: Next year, if they get a right it could almost
Speaker 3: be it could almost be worse for every other team
Speaker 3: in the comp if they come in so hungry, because
Speaker 3: on paper and on their day they can be the
Speaker 3: best team in the comp. They can. They almost bet
Speaker 3: Penrith last year. They've looked good at times this year,
Speaker 3: earlier this year. You know they could turn it on
Speaker 3: again next year. I mean this could actually be better
Speaker 3: for them in the long run, almost to give them
Speaker 3: that real kick that they need.
Speaker 2: They're going to have to take that out of it.
Speaker 2: That's the only thing that they can take out of
Speaker 2: it is the humility of it and just starting from scratch,
Speaker 2: and hopefully they take that attitude into twenty twenty five
Speaker 2: and that's the only thing they can really hope for Now, we'll.
Speaker 1: Talk about a couple of other results on the weekend
Speaker 1: with finals teams. First of all, the Doggies played the
Speaker 1: Cowboys got absolutely touched up. Second week in a row
Speaker 1: for the Dogs that they got touched up. Are you
Speaker 1: a Dogs fan? Are you concerned? If you're a Dogs fan.
Speaker 2: If you're a Dogs fan, I think you are a
Speaker 2: little bit concerned, but I think you're overwhelmingly the major
Speaker 2: feeling is excitement, right because you've got to take a moment,
Speaker 2: I think, especially before this first weekend of finals, just
Speaker 2: to go finally, you know, we're here. They've been through
Speaker 2: so much paying over these last couple of years and
Speaker 2: who knew how long it was going to take for
Speaker 2: them to be able to get back there. So I
Speaker 2: think if you're a Doggies fan, you're excited about what
Speaker 2: could happen, but massive, massive warning signs there.
Speaker 3: Do you guys speak to Stephen Crochden this morning.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't know.
Speaker 2: I didn't know.
Speaker 3: I get it. Yeah, but he got He's not nervous,
Speaker 3: not nervous.
Speaker 1: I don't think he gets nervous. Steve Krout, No does he.
Speaker 2: I just final is the whole new ball game.
Speaker 1: He knows that as well.
Speaker 3: It's funny a lot has been made of this, like
Speaker 3: Bulldogs curse you know every year that ends in four
Speaker 3: and apparently they they're loose to the Cowboys in the
Speaker 3: last round as well. I saw some weirds that on
Speaker 3: the weekend fourteen and four they lost to the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Get your money on the dogs. They lost to ma
Speaker 1: only a couple of weeks ago too, and got touched
Speaker 1: up and un till they play this weekend. What about
Speaker 1: In terms of Manly, they were That's the other result
Speaker 1: that intrigued me because Coronella they've been a bit inconsistent,
Speaker 1: but Manly are the ultimate inconsistent team. One week they
Speaker 1: are they look breathtaking and the next week they looked diabolical.
Speaker 1: And this was dob at home cost some home final.
Speaker 1: They were bang average yesterday they sided good the first
Speaker 1: five minutes game.
Speaker 3: The game was really physical and I think the Sharks
Speaker 3: witherstood that and then that's why they came out with
Speaker 3: the win. In games like that, you're looking to see
Speaker 3: which team gives up first, and it was clear that Manly.
Speaker 3: Manly got out of that fight very quickly and the
Speaker 3: Sharks were there to play for eighty minutes.
Speaker 2: You look at these pictures like if you if you
Speaker 2: didn't know the result, you look at these pictures that
Speaker 2: packed Hill, the massive crowd Sunday afternoon, you would think
Speaker 2: this is a special for Mainly to win at home. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know what went wrong there.
Speaker 1: Cronulla defended so well in this game. I think at
Speaker 1: a half time they missed five tackles. They probably only
Speaker 1: barely missed double figures the entire game crnol. They were
Speaker 1: outstanding defensively, but mainly were just you right, tys. They
Speaker 1: were good in the first five ten minutes and they just
Speaker 1: drop dropped their intensity and dropped off and maybe they
Speaker 1: look looking in next week. I don't know, but they
Speaker 1: weren't great. It was a bit of a flatal performance,
Speaker 1: particularly in front of us sold out sold out at
Speaker 1: four Pints Park, full house. As I said, they were
Speaker 1: playing for the chance to close the final in week one,
Speaker 1: so really disappointing performance.
Speaker 3: Actually they have a young team as well though, as
Speaker 3: like I don't.
Speaker 1: Get some experience, said Shake and Daily Maddie Lodge. You
Speaker 1: know there's enough Rubmin Garrett, there's enough guy Lckland Croaker
Speaker 1: enough of course, and the team have been around long
Speaker 1: enough that you know they should compensate. Well, make sure
Speaker 1: there's young blocks turn up ready to play.
Speaker 2: Do you think the fifties right and that we disrespect Cronulla, Well.
Speaker 1: I think we disrespect them because the last two years
Speaker 1: they've just gone straight out in the finals.
Speaker 2: I totally agree with you. Yeah, I think they have
Speaker 2: not shown yet. They just haven't yet proven that they
Speaker 2: have what it takes.
Speaker 1: This year, No, I think they've been there.
Speaker 3: I think they've been in the top four six week
Speaker 3: one to which is crazy because I mean, no one's
Speaker 3: really talking about them as premiership favorites.
Speaker 2: Everyone's kind of got a raised eyebrow, right, they're just
Speaker 2: like holding their praise just to kind of see.
Speaker 1: Because they haven't quite believe in big games they when
Speaker 1: the finals come around, they they haven't shown they can
Speaker 1: get it done. Look, I think they're they're so well coached, right,
Speaker 1: he gets the best out of their most week's FITZI
Speaker 1: he's obviously an amazing coach because I think they're one
Speaker 1: of the sides well, I was going to say a
Speaker 1: lack of genuine superstar. They've got Nico, heines right, and
Speaker 1: but Nico hasn't really shown again that he can get
Speaker 1: it done on a big, big stage yet. So that's
Speaker 1: going to be the challenge for them and Niko in
Speaker 1: the finals. They got to aim up, lift and show
Speaker 1: they can show they can get it done right on
Speaker 1: the big stage, a bit like in Ucas. Yes, they
Speaker 1: Carlin Potner, who got it done on the big stage.
Speaker 1: Baby KP came to play, when the great Man comes
Speaker 1: to play. He was outstanding, KP.
Speaker 2: He was outstanding. I was up there yesterday. Yeah, the
Speaker 2: atmosphere was incredible. It was awesome. Yeah, awesome to be
Speaker 2: at that stadium minutes heaving.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, he've got it done on the big stage. I
Speaker 2: genuinely thought that maybe the dog like the Dolphins way,
Speaker 2: Benett might just have one trick up his sleeve. You know.
Speaker 2: I think this is a huge test for the Knights.
Speaker 2: They obviously it's not the best way to go into
Speaker 2: the finals, is it. Having just like scraped in there,
Speaker 2: having to win your last game to get in there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I think they've won for maybe four
Speaker 1: of their last five. Of the Knights, they're pretty good
Speaker 1: touch and when calm players like he did. Look he
Speaker 1: owned the big moment chesterday, and that's what you want
Speaker 1: your best players to do. Yeah, he came up, came
Speaker 1: up with the players, the big players that decided the game.
Speaker 1: Do you think number one on the rich lists? Do
Speaker 1: you he was earned his money yesterday?
Speaker 3: Read that which one website?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's everywhere.
Speaker 3: He Do you think the Knights have found kind of
Speaker 3: a good balance now in their team. Earlier in the
Speaker 3: year they seemed like that big name in Jackson Hasings
Speaker 3: and a half big name in Kaylyn pomer Hooka I
Speaker 3: mean sorry full back, you know, and almost like too many,
Speaker 3: too many voices and no one really standing up. Now
Speaker 3: they've kind of they've all seeing Kaylan does his job
Speaker 3: at the back. Finis Crossland does a different job than
Speaker 3: what than what Hastings is doing. Cong's found Cogor has
Speaker 3: been pretty quiet, but he's he's just sitting there nipping
Speaker 3: away the little white war entice and gamble on the bench.
Speaker 1: They're still like they're halves still worrying me. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: not really elite halves, are they. You know that's a worry.
Speaker 1: Like if it's Kaitlyn doesn't get it done. Yeah, no
Speaker 1: one gets it done in that team.
Speaker 3: There's been teams like that in the past, there.
Speaker 1: Has been, but not many, not many. And that means
Speaker 1: that every week in the finals, as deep as they go,
Speaker 1: you know, there's more pressure on Kaitlyn every week to
Speaker 1: fire up for them. Otherwise, but their halves just aren't.
Speaker 1: They're just steady halves, right, I thinks when Comps were
Speaker 1: just steady playing huts.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Phoenix Crosslin like he I think he
Speaker 2: is actually quite an important player. I think last year,
Speaker 2: particularly when Kaylen was out as well for that long stretch.
Speaker 2: He's played a really for them last year, and I
Speaker 2: think just being able to find like finding a way
Speaker 2: to use him more often, especially kind of at the
Speaker 2: back end of this year, I think it's been really
Speaker 2: important for the Knights too.
Speaker 3: Got touch on what you said when you said they've
Speaker 3: steady hard. They're just steady hard when you look at
Speaker 3: the strike outside of them though, outside of both of them,
Speaker 3: you're Dan Gogay, Bradman, Bess, Greg Martin, who's you're kling
Speaker 3: out in the back. Like if you look at that
Speaker 3: that back five is probably you know, one of the
Speaker 3: best in the comp in form as well. Like if
Speaker 3: they can just simplify their game and leave it up
Speaker 3: to their actual strike their big money players, I think
Speaker 3: they can get the job done. I'm not saying the
Speaker 3: Knight's going to win the premiership. They're probably in the
Speaker 3: top eight at the moment. My ones that I probably
Speaker 3: haven't just maybe like that six mark power ranking wise,
Speaker 3: but I.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't pass put it pass from getting to the prelimb.
Speaker 1: I think they can definitely win this week and we'll
Speaker 1: touch on that game in a second. I reckon they
Speaker 1: can win in week two against the losers of the
Speaker 1: top four games. But I just think when you get
Speaker 1: to the prelim and they got to play potentially Peneth
Speaker 1: or Melbourne, I reckon that's when they're going to get
Speaker 1: They're going to struggle a bit. But I think they
Speaker 1: can definitely win get to get to the pre lim.
Speaker 1: I think Klein's good enough to get them there. And
Speaker 1: as you said, they've got enough striking their outside backs
Speaker 1: and They've got a good forward, pat Lot, Daniel Safeti's
Speaker 1: playing really good football. They've got Jacob Safiti to come back.
Speaker 1: He didn't played it yesterday. I think they got him
Speaker 1: to come back. Dylan Lucas are really good player. Frazill
Speaker 1: came back guests saying I think they've got good enough forward, pack,
Speaker 1: enough striking outsid backs to win a couple of couple
Speaker 1: of games in the finals. But I just worry when
Speaker 1: you get against the really elite teams, that's when I
Speaker 1: reckon they might struggle in my opinion, humble opinion. Let's
Speaker 1: touch on the games. Yeah, we start Panthers rooster is
Speaker 1: a bit of a blockbuster one definitely a penal stadium
Speaker 1: the last game of penwith knock it down and start again.
Speaker 1: Do you give the russ I hope? What do you reckon?
Speaker 1: I would know in their last nine games against.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Penrith just get the job done here. Obviously,
Speaker 2: you've got to give russ a hope because they are
Speaker 2: a really good side and they have a fantastic coach.
Speaker 2: They You've got to give them a hope just because
Speaker 2: of the pity they've got in that team. But I
Speaker 2: think Penrith at home. It doesn't get much tougher than that,
Speaker 2: aside from probably the trip to Melbourne which is the
Speaker 2: next the next thing, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'll get Nathan Penrith will have Nathan Cleary back. Everyone
Speaker 1: today said he's certain to play. What do you reckon
Speaker 1: give the rooss I hope.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I give him a hope. I give him hope
Speaker 3: purely on that. They said to just find a way
Speaker 3: to stay in games. Yeah, like last year against the Storm,
Speaker 3: they put ten seconds away from from getting into that
Speaker 3: the prelim I think.
Speaker 1: Catch by Marky Mark no one get he was very good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there were Warrick were Warbrick scored in the last
Speaker 3: seconds of their game last year. And yeah, like a
Speaker 3: couple of years ago they played Penrith in I think
Speaker 3: it was a pre limb and their back line looked
Speaker 3: you wouldn't even recognize their back line and they were
Speaker 3: two points away then. So I think it's going to
Speaker 3: be close. I can't say I'm going to tip the Roosters,
Speaker 3: but I mean close games like that, you can they
Speaker 3: can go either way. It depends on the night really,
Speaker 3: So if the rooster are.
Speaker 1: Up for it, we obviously Nathan's coming back from the
Speaker 1: shoulder problem to were asking Teddy about it today, he
Speaker 1: basically foreshadowed that Angus crot and I'll be just going
Speaker 1: to Nathan all day. It's good. They'll test him out
Speaker 1: or they'll try to test him out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Well that's what Angus Crichten's been doing all year.
Speaker 2: Else he's just been terrorizing those little arms all year.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and that's why you have to give the
Speaker 2: roosters a hope, right, they're just experts kind of when
Speaker 2: it comes to this point of the year as Penwrith
Speaker 2: now are as well.
Speaker 1: Yes, but do you do you the fact they haven't
Speaker 1: beat them in nine games? Do you think it matters?
Speaker 1: Cheddy sort of dismissed it today. Do you think it's
Speaker 1: a factor?
Speaker 3: Rugby league math never adds up. So, I mean nine
Speaker 3: games is nine games, but every game is different, Every
Speaker 3: year is different. If we look at Penrith four years ago,
Speaker 3: they probably hadn't been a lot of teams in that
Speaker 3: long yeah, but now look at them. So yeah. Look,
Speaker 3: I mean smart money's on Penrith, but anyone that bets
Speaker 3: against Trent Robinson and his organization there that the Rocks
Speaker 3: in there.
Speaker 1: So I watched this A bit of this gold Gast
Speaker 1: game in Penwith to me, looked dodgy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were totally convincing where they know, But I
Speaker 2: think that Nathan Cleary just went him coming back into
Speaker 2: that team. They just they just can beat anybody there,
Speaker 2: unbelievable with him in the side. So you know, I
Speaker 2: don't really put too much stock into it, do you.
Speaker 1: They looked a little shaky to me. Yeah, yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: give the risks. I hope. I don't think it's a
Speaker 1: foregone conclusion. I think Pendth probably win last game at
Speaker 1: home and they'll be pumped up. As I said before
Speaker 1: the joint gets knocked down. Cleary backs huge, depends how
Speaker 1: he is, right, But I just thought they looked a
Speaker 1: bit off. They looked a bit off. I reckon they
Speaker 1: haven't looked and you expect that they've lost some good players,
Speaker 1: right at some point it's going to take take its toll.
Speaker 1: But I thought they did this game. If I'm a
Speaker 1: Penwith fan, this game really worried me. For the last
Speaker 1: game of the year week before the finals and new
Speaker 1: struggle to put the Gold Coast away.
Speaker 3: A lot of teams were like that this week, though,
Speaker 3: Like to be honest, the I mean the Bulldog's mainly
Speaker 3: game that we're getting now. Both teams are coming off losses.
Speaker 3: The Risters almost like the rabbit uts back into it
Speaker 3: after having him done. Panthers the same. Melbourne. Apart from Melbourne, well,
Speaker 3: unless you as great Bellamy, he.
Speaker 2: Was blowing up in the box, high standard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like a lot of those teams say they send
Speaker 3: to drop off. I think in the last.
Speaker 1: Round, first game and said the Cowboys nights, Kaylen's going home. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've spent a bit of time in towns Well made
Speaker 1: his first grade to buil up there. I think he
Speaker 1: made it in the final from them.
Speaker 2: Yeah on the wing. Yeah, you spoke to about did Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was excited to go back. Wants to beat him,
Speaker 2: so look out, but no, it'll be I think it's
Speaker 2: a yeah, it's an interesting one. Obviously. Kaylen's been at
Speaker 2: the Knights for six years or something now, and he
Speaker 2: came there as an eighteen year old, so he might
Speaker 2: have just been nineteen. We're just about to turn nineteen,
Speaker 2: so there was a long time ago now, but everything's
Speaker 2: new in the finals again, right.
Speaker 1: So Mooney was the mastermind behind that is now, he
Speaker 1: was that the nineties now a Cronulla and they took
Speaker 1: a pun on him. He was a prodigiously gifted kid
Speaker 1: r as a footballer, but they played him a lot
Speaker 1: of ye and it's probably one of the smartest signings
Speaker 1: the Nights have made in a long time. What do
Speaker 1: you reckon? You got up there twice. Cowboys were very
Speaker 1: good on Saturday, very good.
Speaker 3: I know I've been anti Cowboy majority of the year,
Speaker 3: so what I just haven't thought that they've got the
Speaker 3: team to to really win a camp. I don't know
Speaker 3: the team. Yeah, yeah, they play and yeah, I just
Speaker 3: think there's been games this year where their verse size
Speaker 3: that they should smash and they haven't smashed them.
Speaker 1: They have been consistent.
Speaker 3: Very very up and down.
Speaker 1: They've got a lot of strike though. Man, they've got
Speaker 1: more of striking that team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was unreal outstanding.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there'll be.
Speaker 3: A lot of points, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: And I think, yeah, look, drink Water's brigiant.
Speaker 3: Playing playing Townsville as well is a big step up
Speaker 3: because it's really hot up there.
Speaker 1: Queen's mate Almos shines up there. Didn't help you literally
Speaker 1: in everything. I mean, for me, it's good. It's the
Speaker 1: Cowboys defense, it's going to decide because they're the sort
Speaker 1: of team that can put thirty on you and could
Speaker 1: see thirty. Yeah, you know that's the that's the great
Speaker 1: dilemma they've got. But they were so good against the Dogs.
Speaker 1: That was just an absolute carve up.
Speaker 2: They just looked like they were having so much fun and.
Speaker 1: They did it so easily.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not what you won the week for a final,
Speaker 3: I don't think.
Speaker 2: I think it adds a bit of pressure being at
Speaker 2: home up there too, and the crowd and on.
Speaker 3: That golden point.
Speaker 2: Gold point, Well, they had a golden point game in
Speaker 2: round two.
Speaker 3: Okay, Jake Clifford kicks a field goal golden point.
Speaker 1: First to so game responsibly folks. What about stormy Sharks
Speaker 1: storm sharks storm at home in Melbourne? No, I fell
Speaker 1: on this weekend down there apparently, so there should be
Speaker 1: a house there. Can we see the Sharks causing an
Speaker 1: upset at all?
Speaker 2: They did win the Yeah, I feel like it's going
Speaker 2: to be closer than what we expect. I do, but
Speaker 2: I am never going to tip against Melbourne in Melbourne.
Speaker 2: I just think that that's.
Speaker 1: And everyone me back, you do and bruising missed last week,
Speaker 1: but he'll be back.
Speaker 2: We spoke about how good Jerome Hughes has jin He's
Speaker 2: just unbelievable.
Speaker 1: The other blog has found a bit of form in
Speaker 1: a lot of stage years. Cam Munster he's played in
Speaker 1: the last time last few weeks, right, and when he
Speaker 1: first came back from those that those hip problems because
Speaker 1: got a double hip surgeon in the off season, he
Speaker 1: looked a bit scratchy. I thought. For the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks he's looked threatening down monster and Harry's actually
Speaker 1: looked better too. I recod a quiet year. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: last few weeks has been good as well. So they're
Speaker 1: going to be awful hard to be What do you think, na.
Speaker 3: I think the Storm wins. I don't know when constably,
Speaker 3: but I think they win. Like that's in the Sharks.
Speaker 3: Isn't an easy task that they're just solid everywhere. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean there's there's no blueprint to beating Melbourne. There's
Speaker 3: no like, there's nothing that I see the Sharks doing
Speaker 3: that can be like this is how we're going to
Speaker 3: beat Melbourne in Melbourne And like you said, those guys
Speaker 3: just all come into form that at the right times
Speaker 3: will Warbrick so good, unbelievable on Thursday night and.
Speaker 1: Your coaches back to wasn't it was that he first
Speaker 1: came back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you look at the people like they
Speaker 3: dropped Grant Anderson, who's been one of their best this year,
Speaker 3: like in filling in for those you know, those injuries.
Speaker 3: So you've got someone like so Farlongo who is there
Speaker 3: as well, just just in case like that. I can't
Speaker 3: see a hole that Melbourne can't plug or can't make
Speaker 3: up for.
Speaker 1: What's Cronell's best type is that Nico going back to
Speaker 1: Melbourne and creating havoc. I mean, he hasn't really looked.
Speaker 2: I think he's just got to be there in like
Speaker 2: the I think that it's going to be a pretty
Speaker 2: ferocious battle I think between these two forward packs, and
Speaker 2: I think he just needs to be there to ice
Speaker 2: the game. Like there's a big moment I think coming
Speaker 2: for Nico and and for the Sharks, Like we spoke
Speaker 2: about how they haven't really got the job done at
Speaker 2: this time of the year. This is now the moment,
Speaker 2: and I think he's just got to be there and
Speaker 2: be around and if it comes down to you know,
Speaker 2: that final pass or if it's you know, a sideline
Speaker 2: conversion or something like. He's just got to be on.
Speaker 3: The Sharks highlighted how they need to win this game yesterday.
Speaker 3: They need to stay in the fight. Yeah, and wait
Speaker 3: for Melbourne to give up first, which won't come right,
Speaker 3: It won't come So that means that means they have
Speaker 3: to stay in that fight the entire game. We'll take
Speaker 3: one mistake, one error, you know, one little glimpse of brilliance,
Speaker 3: and they can win. It's the minute, the minute they
Speaker 3: do what mainly did in their game against them, that's
Speaker 3: when the storm will get over them. If they can
Speaker 3: hold that line for eighty minutes and you know, or
Speaker 3: potentially longer if they have to have ants.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I like that. I like that as fits
Speaker 1: you listening. You've got your blueprint from twice sister, defend
Speaker 1: your way to victory. Baby dogs Manly final game around Sunday.
Speaker 1: This should be should be fifty thousand plus at least.
Speaker 1: I would hope you would think Dogs manly. Not many
Speaker 1: Manly fans because we don't cross the bridge. Wells, people
Speaker 1: in people in the Northern Beaches don't cross the bridge.
Speaker 1: We might make an exception. We won't go the back way.
Speaker 1: There's a back way. We don't have to go across
Speaker 1: the Stook Bridge.
Speaker 2: What's the problem with the West.
Speaker 1: It's too far, too far. But I mean this interest
Speaker 1: Becau've got two teams who are coming off she Lackings.
Speaker 1: They played a couple of weeks ago. Man they put
Speaker 1: the cleaners through them. What are you thinking? Which way
Speaker 1: you mean? Tommy Chiworovitch back for Manly and he makes
Speaker 1: an incredible change to that football team. Just his mere
Speaker 1: presence completely changes that rugby league team.
Speaker 2: This is such a toss of the coin for me.
Speaker 2: I feel like this is so yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 2: this is so evenly matched. I think Manly. Maybe I'm
Speaker 2: leaning towards Manly Tom I'm trying, yeah, Manly. But just
Speaker 2: that crowd I think is just going to be obviously
Speaker 2: so bulldogs centric. That's going to be unreal atmosphere. You'd
Speaker 2: like to think they could get the job done.
Speaker 3: Those will get it done.
Speaker 1: Dogs win.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really it's written in the stars. It's meant
Speaker 3: to happen.
Speaker 1: What gives you that? What do you think I'm buying.
Speaker 3: Into all this history nonsense and whatnot. Whether they're all
Speaker 3: the year. It's not It's not just that, though there's
Speaker 3: so much to it. I love the fact that they
Speaker 3: their fans are so passionate about their clubs, even though
Speaker 3: everyone else's fan base hates, you know, going and being
Speaker 3: around them. There's just something like talking to to critic
Speaker 3: this morning, there's something special there. He knows it. He's
Speaker 3: a proven winner. And yeah, like you said me as
Speaker 3: as a reason that could probably tip manly way. But
Speaker 3: for me, we've seen Tommy come back from injury quickly.
Speaker 3: We've seen Tommy get hurt again as well, So I'm
Speaker 3: a bit worried. Yeah, I don't want it to happen,
Speaker 3: but like I'm just a bit worried that if is
Speaker 3: it too soon? He only got injured two weeks ago.
Speaker 3: And this is a guy that you're a resident football
Speaker 3: many times.
Speaker 1: And did you come back in like two weeks not
Speaker 1: two weeks?
Speaker 3: Actually know that there was once there was once I
Speaker 3: came back straight away. But it's hard, like your shoulders numb,
Speaker 3: Like that's the problem with it, right, it's not. It's
Speaker 3: not going to stop you from playing, but you lose
Speaker 3: strength in your arm, you lose feeling in your arm,
Speaker 3: like you've got he'll be patted up on his shoulder.
Speaker 3: But if it's a bad ac joint, you have your
Speaker 3: joint looks like that you've actually got something like sticking
Speaker 3: out of Yeah.
Speaker 1: Just kneedle it up. Bang, Tommy be fine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but your final you're not fine than you. Probably
Speaker 3: he's playing in the NRL and but I just think
Speaker 3: it's it's It's going to be a tough task for
Speaker 3: both teams. But I think the Bulldogs can get it done.
Speaker 3: I think a corps as well is a big advantage
Speaker 3: for them.
Speaker 1: Well, hopefully they turn out. I hope there's at least
Speaker 1: fifty there. I think Man will get the job done.
Speaker 1: I think they showed two weeks ago. I had to
Speaker 1: beat the Dogs.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: Cam Mocerello is a really smart coach. We all know that,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you come up with ways to combat that.
Speaker 1: But I reckon Tommy. Come if Tommy's eighty percent fit,
Speaker 1: now they're a completely different team because he just infuses
Speaker 1: that entire side with faith, with confidence and faith in
Speaker 1: their own.
Speaker 2: Just he just lives more faith.
Speaker 1: Yeah, more so, you know, I think I reckon Tommy
Speaker 1: might make the difference. That's all you get through the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. I think it's going to
Speaker 2: be one of course. Yeah, I'm going to go backwards
Speaker 2: and forwards on this all week.
Speaker 1: I can't point no sitting on the fan making declarations.
Speaker 2: I've made it. I think privately I'll go back to
Speaker 2: flip flip.
Speaker 3: Flop party in Belmore after the game.
Speaker 1: You might have to put a bull of jersey on.
Speaker 3: I'm not making any.
Speaker 2: The horns love the carry on great and that smells a.
Speaker 1: Bit that jersey. What are you watching? What do you
Speaker 1: go on? What? What's on this week? What are you watching?
Speaker 2: I've been watching. It came out a couple of years ago,
Speaker 2: but it's an ESPN documentary of thirty for thirty.
Speaker 1: They're so good.
Speaker 2: That so good. I love them. But I've been watching
Speaker 2: one on Michael Vick.
Speaker 3: So he was a plus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was an NFL quarterback who was just outstand
Speaker 2: like about standing, brilliant, brilliant, kit He was the first
Speaker 2: draft pick back in I can't remember what year that was,
Speaker 2: m Yeah, and it was early two thousands, could have
Speaker 2: been late nineties. So I've watched part one of it.
Speaker 2: I'm going to watch part two tonight and just how
Speaker 2: his life unravels. We had a really rough upbringing and
Speaker 2: then just got was the first draft picked and got
Speaker 2: all these you know, hundreds of millions of dollars essentially,
Speaker 2: and then had all of these friends kind of follow
Speaker 2: him to at Lana and they just all lived in
Speaker 2: his house. And yeah, he ended up doing jail.
Speaker 1: Time, was breeding dogs for Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had this house in Atlanta where all these
Speaker 2: all of his childhood friends and friends of their friends
Speaker 2: and everyone just all lived. They would deal drugs, they
Speaker 2: would do whatever in there. He was obviously off playing,
Speaker 2: and he was just kind of like provide, like providing
Speaker 2: the money for it, because he was just like the
Speaker 2: meal ticket out of their terrible life.
Speaker 1: He was such a good play he like changed the
Speaker 1: game he was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like a running back. Yeah, and then
Speaker 2: so he just.
Speaker 1: Now there's running quarterbacks everywhere. Yeah, it's genius. What about you?
Speaker 2: I recommend I think it's true. I think it's true.
Speaker 1: What have you got, Tyson?
Speaker 3: Anything watching The Crow? The movie The Crow is that
Speaker 3: the old movie had old movie with Bruce Lee Son Brendanly.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a very good to stumble on this.
Speaker 1: This come about.
Speaker 3: I don't know you on the lounge. One night, I said,
Speaker 3: I want watch The Crow.
Speaker 1: Had you heard of the Crow? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well there is used to be a pretty big
Speaker 3: wrestling fan and for people that they sting the wrestler
Speaker 3: just like the Crow. So yeah, like i'd heard of it,
Speaker 3: and I heard it was a good movie. I heard
Speaker 3: the sequels and great. Yeah, I've just been caught. Some
Speaker 3: of us have to work, you know, and we can't
Speaker 3: be watching TV all the time.
Speaker 2: We can't say Enter L three sixty, or we can't say,
Speaker 2: you know, Friday Night foot all the time.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's that. That's been my I guess the
Speaker 3: two and a half hours I had to myself I
Speaker 3: watched last week.
Speaker 1: You know, I've been watching watching, I've been watching The Voice.
Speaker 1: Watched The Voice. I love those shows. I did.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 1: Those shows and people come on and yeah they've got
Speaker 1: a sad story and then they sing and the chairs
Speaker 1: turn and I just say.
Speaker 3: They don't get it. Like you never see him progress
Speaker 3: from the Voice. That's the problem.
Speaker 1: Occasionally someone someone did once there was a few can't
Speaker 1: we've got on this. He's a judge, one of the judges,
Speaker 1: the judges. Yeah, Lian Rawan Rawan, Yeah, she's on, She's
Speaker 1: a jug And what's that guy? I think he won
Speaker 1: the American American Idol Lambert and Lambert's the other guy
Speaker 1: had a little attention. But yeah, I quite like that.
Speaker 1: I quite like the voice. I fancy myself was a
Speaker 1: bit of a singer.
Speaker 2: You think it.
Speaker 1: Maybe one day of retirement, I might go on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I might get up in the morning and I ain't
Speaker 1: got nothing saved bit of the fans. Anyway, that's a
Speaker 1: horrible note show on. Thanks for joining us. Stay tuned
Speaker 1: all this week for the finals news and we'll catch
Speaker 1: you on Thursday. I guess I'm Darly Telegraph and the podcast.
Speaker 1: Thanks very much.