Speaker 1: I'll get a team. It's you project, it's Patrick. It's
Speaker 1: my favorite. He's back and it's my other favorite tip.
Speaker 1: They're both back. It's like the fucking wall of favorites.
Speaker 1: As I look at my I was going to say,
Speaker 1: TV screen. That's how old I'm It's like a TV screen,
Speaker 1: isn't it. It's like something from the seventies. They've really evolved,
Speaker 1: haven't they look at them? What with the wireless and everything? Hello, Patrick,
Speaker 1: how are.
Speaker 2: You let me dial my rotary dial phone and we'll
Speaker 2: connect on the phone.
Speaker 1: Yes, let's do that. I'll send my carrier pigeon over
Speaker 1: to you, just to inform you of what's going on.
Speaker 1: With a note and it's God.
Speaker 2: I was talking to someone about writing handwriting letters. I
Speaker 2: love writing cards to people, and it's one of those
Speaker 2: things to receive a written note these days.
Speaker 3: It's so unique. I'm good, by the way, thank you
Speaker 3: for asking, how are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good? Thank you? Tiff? What do you think the
Speaker 1: writing the like with a pen? As I'm holding up
Speaker 1: a pen just like Tiff would no unless I fucking
Speaker 1: held one. I don't know why I'm doing this visual prompt,
Speaker 1: but nonetheless I'm still doing it that's.
Speaker 2: Getting close to your eye, mate, be careful, don't take
Speaker 2: yourself in the eye with that.
Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, thanks mom. If what do you think
Speaker 1: the chances of the younger generation being able to use
Speaker 1: one of these in ten years is like, do you
Speaker 1: think we'll still have children in schools writing on paper
Speaker 1: with pens or that will be obsolete.
Speaker 4: It's interesting, isn't it. Maybe it'll make itself obsolete, but
Speaker 4: then won't it be a beautiful craft like people that
Speaker 4: have the ability to do that, Like if in.
Speaker 1: The you know, I know, Patrick's going to say, oh,
Speaker 1: we need to hold on to it, and I get it,
Speaker 1: and it's romantic and it's beautiful. But in the real
Speaker 1: world beyond that, I don't think people are going to
Speaker 1: be writing with pens on paper. I think kids from
Speaker 1: a young age you're going to be using computers and
Speaker 1: everything's going to be done in that modality. What are
Speaker 1: your thoughts, Patrick?
Speaker 2: My thoughts are that you are completely and totally utterly wrong,
Speaker 2: and new studies are now actually encouraging.
Speaker 1: In primary school, you always say new studies, reference the
Speaker 1: study right now.
Speaker 3: It's a study right now.
Speaker 1: I don't say studies, tell us tell me the name
Speaker 1: of the study, or I don't believe you. Look, this
Speaker 1: is your go to this is your go to studies.
Speaker 1: Tell us there was this, don't fucking say that. Tell
Speaker 1: me the name of the study, and don't start looking
Speaker 1: it up now I am looking it up. Are you
Speaker 1: telling me? Are you telling me that you think in
Speaker 1: ten years that kids will be writing on paper with
Speaker 1: pens more than they are now?
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm telling you now that they are.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, you're giving me your opinion now, don't
Speaker 1: know this is your opinion, right, don't get over the
Speaker 1: top with what you're not fucking nostradamis article I read recently,
Speaker 1: because articles never get it wrong that.
Speaker 2: Schools are now reintroducing pens because the mechanism for writing
Speaker 2: words means that children are able to articulate and learn
Speaker 2: in a much more rapid pace when they take notes
Speaker 2: and they write it down. Because the act of actually
Speaker 2: writing the words, forming the letters, combining the words helps
Speaker 2: greatly with learning and part of learning process. So at
Speaker 2: least in Victoria, there is a move to really strongly
Speaker 2: encourage kids away from tablets and back to handwriting.
Speaker 1: I think theoretically that's brilliant, and I hope that is true,
Speaker 1: and I hope that. I mean, just because they're doing
Speaker 1: like that would be great. But I don't know that
Speaker 1: that in a decade that the standard is going to
Speaker 1: be kids writing on paper. I think it's going to
Speaker 1: be the exception, not the rule. Ye, Like, I'm with you,
Speaker 1: like I think for left brain right brain kind of
Speaker 1: creativity and that tactile thing of actually doing something that's
Speaker 1: fluid with with a pen on a page. But then
Speaker 1: all the greenies are going to go, no, we need
Speaker 1: to stop using all the paper and we're killing all
Speaker 1: the trees.
Speaker 2: There's that Raising Raising Children dot net dot au son
Speaker 2: austraining parenting website states handwriting is an important part of
Speaker 2: literacy and an essential skillful life.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Still, that's just a website saying for something. It's
Speaker 1: not research, is it? I love, Let's be clear. Let's
Speaker 1: be clear.
Speaker 2: If when you come out of the ring just punching
Speaker 2: like shit, that's Craig this morning.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying, like, I don't have to agree
Speaker 1: with everything you say just because you're saying it. I
Speaker 1: can say cool, you say research, where is it? And
Speaker 1: you go, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Queensland curriculum and Assessment authority supporting your child development.
Speaker 1: Ye still not research, Still not research, Just a fucking
Speaker 1: website saying something, an education website. So what So what
Speaker 1: you know? Science used to tell us that the world
Speaker 1: was flat. Science used to tell us that the food
Speaker 1: pyramid was good. Science used to tell us that pregnant
Speaker 1: women should have polidamine. There's a lot of things that
Speaker 1: turn out not to be true.
Speaker 3: I'll send you a link to the National Library the
Speaker 3: neuroscience behind writing.
Speaker 1: But I believe you with that, Like, I truly I agree.
Speaker 1: I think it's great. That's not the question. The question
Speaker 1: is will it still be around? So you and I
Speaker 1: are on the same page. I think I wish that
Speaker 1: we're all still writing, and I wish we were using
Speaker 1: both hands. Like, if you're listening to this and you're
Speaker 1: a parent and you want your kid's brain to develop, great,
Speaker 1: get them to do things with both hands. Get them
Speaker 1: to write and draw with both hands. Get them to
Speaker 1: play games with both hands. Hold a tennis racket, at
Speaker 1: cricket bat, you know whatever, play with dolls with both hands,
Speaker 1: like try to What about when you're getting dressed and
Speaker 1: you try to button up your shirt with your your
Speaker 1: non dominant hands. It's like the fucking I was going
Speaker 1: to say something very inappropriate. Have you ever I know
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 3: I can't to say it.
Speaker 1: No, I really can't. I would really actually get in trouble.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: For me to pull back is yeah, wow.
Speaker 3: You know what I was just thinking.
Speaker 2: You were talking about handwriting in schools and whether that's
Speaker 2: going to be present in ten years time. Let's step
Speaker 2: back to even earlier learning. What about kids drawing with crayons?
Speaker 2: And you know, there's a five year old child next
Speaker 2: door who's adorable. And when I take Fritz out to
Speaker 2: the front yard when I'm weeding, the kids all swarm
Speaker 2: because they love my dog.
Speaker 3: Right, it's not nothing to do with me.
Speaker 2: But the little girl next door she turned five, so
Speaker 2: I got her a little gift and she wrote she
Speaker 2: drew me this beautiful picture, and she spelt my name,
Speaker 2: but she spelt the pee backwards, which was.
Speaker 3: Kind of cute. It was just like thank you.
Speaker 2: And I just thought I've hung it up in my office,
Speaker 2: right behind my desk, because it says.
Speaker 3: So cute that this five year old draw a picture
Speaker 3: for me.
Speaker 2: But the act of drawing, of creating something on paper
Speaker 2: that kids do from quite an early age, and visualizing
Speaker 2: the world and then articulating it in such a way.
Speaker 2: You know, kids draw even before they speak sometimes, but
Speaker 2: to draw mummy and daddy, or to draw a picture
Speaker 2: of a sky with the sun in it, those things
Speaker 2: just they're going to be around, you know, that taxile connectedness.
Speaker 2: So I think that, you know, is that the precursor
Speaker 2: to writing further maybe hopefully Now I like to think, yeah, all.
Speaker 1: Right, let's move on, let's look at some of it.
Speaker 1: Let's look at what's on your list. I don't disagree,
Speaker 1: by the way, in terms of your premise that it's
Speaker 1: great for the brain and great for development. We're on
Speaker 1: the same page with that. Okay. Biology scientists are excited
Speaker 1: by gel that's going to repair tooth enamel.
Speaker 3: This is pretty big.
Speaker 2: This is just really really big because we can't grow
Speaker 2: new enamel on our teeth, you know, as we get over,
Speaker 2: you get older.
Speaker 3: It's a real problem.
Speaker 2: And this is a concern right around the world because
Speaker 2: the World Health Organization says about three point seven billion
Speaker 2: people suffer from oral disease with the enamel degradation. So
Speaker 2: when the enamel breaks down, it leaves your teeth susceptible,
Speaker 2: so that's one of the big causes, and decay can
Speaker 2: lead to things like diabetes, vascular disease, so bad oral
Speaker 2: health is a real problem. And so the scientists have
Speaker 2: developed a possible treatment.
Speaker 3: So this is out of the University of Nottingham.
Speaker 2: And they believe that they've come up with I guess
Speaker 2: a chemical environmental engineering department have been working on this
Speaker 2: research to have a protein based substance that mimics the
Speaker 2: key features that are used in enamel to develop. So
Speaker 2: this is what babies have when they're growing your teeth.
Speaker 2: Infants use this kind of this process to develop the
Speaker 2: enamel around the teeth. It's kind of like a scaffolding
Speaker 2: that goes on a tooth. And now they're saying they
Speaker 2: may be able to use these calcium and phosphate ions
Speaker 2: are ions that are in saliva and mimic that so
Speaker 2: that we can regrow the enamel. This is we're talking
Speaker 2: This may be as soon as like twelve to eighteen
Speaker 2: months away and that could be revolutionary for people, but
Speaker 2: particularly for those people who you know. I often think
Speaker 2: about the safety net we have with medy care here
Speaker 2: in Australia and there's so many safety nets for people
Speaker 2: who get sick, but the one area that there isn't
Speaker 2: a lot of care for is people who you know,
Speaker 2: don't have a lot of money and can't afford dental work.
Speaker 2: And the ramifications of people having bad teeth can be
Speaker 2: I mean, aside from the cosmetic side of it and
Speaker 2: losing confidence, the other aspect is the heart conditions and
Speaker 2: potential you know, ongoing effects of having dental disease. And
Speaker 2: we don't have a big safety net in there for
Speaker 2: adults who lose their teeth. I mean, I know, I
Speaker 2: think kids can get free dental treatment, but adults can't,
Speaker 2: and so this could be a life changer for so
Speaker 2: many people who just can't afford to go to the dentist.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true. It's if you've got kind of mouth issues,
Speaker 1: or teeth issues, or gum issues, or kind of infection
Speaker 1: issues in the mouth, which is a lot of people.
Speaker 1: There's a kind of a downstream physiological clinical consequence of that, which,
Speaker 1: as you said, is often heart issues, but moreover just
Speaker 1: like people. Yeah, there's just when I had my infection,
Speaker 1: which is not mouth but closely located in my ears,
Speaker 1: I had like an infection in my head, as in
Speaker 1: my Eustachian tubes, and I felt fucking terrible for six months,
Speaker 1: but I thought it was something else, so I didn't
Speaker 1: even get a CT scan on my head, which I
Speaker 1: ended up having to get, because I thought it was
Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought I had diabetes. I thought
Speaker 1: I had chronic fatigue. I've got a thing called pernicious anemia,
Speaker 1: which makes you tired. I thought I had prostate issues.
Speaker 1: I thought all of these things, and what I had
Speaker 1: was an infection in my head. And so I had
Speaker 1: six months of all of these pretty shitty symptoms, and
Speaker 1: I took one course of antibiotics and everything went away.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, oh, and that's just from that one
Speaker 1: thing in my head. That infection basically fucked up, like
Speaker 1: even down to brain function. I feel like my brain
Speaker 1: was a six out of ten for like six months,
Speaker 1: and I thought I was just I was scared. I
Speaker 1: was a little bit scared.
Speaker 2: I want to treat this with the seriousness that deserves
Speaker 2: because I think medical conditions should be something that we
Speaker 2: think about a lot and we protect ourselves from.
Speaker 3: But I want to take.
Speaker 2: That leap from an head infection to your prostate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, because yeah, well the symptoms were I was
Speaker 1: weaning a lot, right, Okay, I was weaning a lot,
Speaker 1: I was lethargic, my cognitive function was down, so they
Speaker 1: were just symptoms which often shouldn't be associated with that.
Speaker 1: So I literally thought I was diabetic. I thought I
Speaker 1: had prostate issues. I thought I had and I wrote
Speaker 1: out a list like I did all this research, like
Speaker 1: I fucking knew what I'm doing, pretending, oh look, I'm
Speaker 1: almost a doctor. So then I went into my actual
Speaker 1: doctor and I said this is what I think's going on,
Speaker 1: and he went, fucking he fuck, what are your symptoms?
Speaker 1: So I told him and he went, well, you could
Speaker 1: be on the money. Then I had all this, I
Speaker 1: had urine tests, I had blood tests, and then he
Speaker 1: calls me in and he goes, well, you got none
Speaker 1: of that, but you've got a fucking infection in your head.
Speaker 1: I went, ah, months of this, Holy Molly, Oh dude, dude,
Speaker 1: I was And also I'm a big baby, so that
Speaker 1: doesn't help.
Speaker 3: The moral of the story is blakes go to the
Speaker 3: doctor more often.
Speaker 1: That is, probably probably don't go to doctor Google as much,
Speaker 1: ye doctor chat GPTV. Patrick tell Us why Google is
Speaker 1: putting data centers in space if you would tell us
Speaker 1: that that'd be nice.
Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of we're talking as early as twenty
Speaker 2: twenty seven that we could. This is a problem with AI,
Speaker 2: the need for data centers in the rece courses they use,
Speaker 2: so water usage has just ballooned because they need water
Speaker 2: to cool the data centers.
Speaker 3: The theory is that if you put a.
Speaker 2: Data center in orbit four hundred miles above the Earth,
Speaker 2: then you don't have the cooling problems because space in
Speaker 2: essence is pretty damn cold. But you could orient the
Speaker 2: solar panels and be constantly generating the power that you
Speaker 2: would need. So we'vein a very short amount of time,
Speaker 2: and in fact, in a couple of years, there are
Speaker 2: more ships, there are more rockets launching satellites, so getting
Speaker 2: stuff into space is a lot cheaper than it ever
Speaker 2: has been. So there's more stuff going up, and the
Speaker 2: running costs by twenty thirty could be you know, a
Speaker 2: space based data center could be comparable to one on Earth.
Speaker 3: And oh, obviously tired data Trader is a big thing.
Speaker 1: And I just asked two two questions. One Tiff is
Speaker 1: for you. Could you just look up what's the ten
Speaker 1: pictura space? And I know space is fucking big, but
Speaker 1: could you just find out like a range and Patrick two,
Speaker 1: what is it? Arta center? Is that just like a
Speaker 1: physical space with a bazillion like I'm picturing like a
Speaker 1: fucking basketball stadium full of computers?
Speaker 2: Is that pretty well? Is that they're not always as
Speaker 2: big as a basketball court. But that's exactly what You're right,
Speaker 2: You're right. It's artist is a place where they have
Speaker 2: racks and racks of machines. So the computers are all
Speaker 2: arranged in racks all the all the you know, the
Speaker 2: big I get processing brains that we use for the
Speaker 2: Internet and for AI and all the things that we
Speaker 2: store and save and process on a constant basis. Because
Speaker 2: when we think about a lot of what we do nowadays,
Speaker 2: a lot of the processing is going on in the cloud.
Speaker 2: When we talk about that, we talk about a data
Speaker 2: center that's remote from our computer.
Speaker 3: So our computers don't.
Speaker 2: Have to be as powerful because the processing is going
Speaker 2: on at the data center end. When you go to
Speaker 2: chat GPT, all the smarts that go into answering your
Speaker 2: question isn't happening on your computer. Your computers linked up
Speaker 2: to the Data center.
Speaker 1: Yeah, TIF, any answer for us? Does it say cold
Speaker 1: as fuck?
Speaker 4: It? Well, it says, says a whole bunch of stuff,
Speaker 4: and then it says because that's how much Chatters talks
Speaker 4: minus two hundred and seventy degrees celsius. In other words,
Speaker 4: colder than your ex is heart after a messy breakup. Thanks. Check.
Speaker 1: Oh look at chat GPT being funny.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: Wow, it also knows you Patrick's coffin his little testicles
Speaker 1: out over there is mute in himself. Fucking hell, did
Speaker 1: you just, Nellie, as my mum would say, did you
Speaker 1: nearly have a fucking epoplexy? Whatever? That is.
Speaker 3: What it epoplexy is? Tell us I look at epoplexy please.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a real word. But I do
Speaker 1: have another question for you, which is not on your list.
Speaker 1: My question is how do you think? In fact, both
Speaker 1: of you all want your opinion, but we'll start with
Speaker 1: you Patrick. So the ban on social media for sixteen
Speaker 1: year olds comes in in the next week or two,
Speaker 1: depending on what state you're in. How do you reckon
Speaker 1: that's going to go? Mate? And why?
Speaker 3: Yeah, smart kids will get around it.
Speaker 2: VPNs get you know, using a virtual private network to
Speaker 2: pretend that you're in another country. I mean, two minds
Speaker 2: about this. I really feel that social media can be
Speaker 2: quite damaging for young people if it's used, you know,
Speaker 2: in the wrong ways. And we know that the algorithms
Speaker 2: of a lot of social media aren't necessarily pro health
Speaker 2: and well being and mental health. Now I worry for
Speaker 2: kids in rural areas who are disenfranchised, who are disconnected.
Speaker 2: You know, there was a recent article I read about
Speaker 2: kids who go to boarding school. You know, they are
Speaker 2: going to come home and separate from all their friends.
Speaker 2: How do they contact each other? Most young people these
Speaker 2: days you snapchat, which is a messaging service, but it
Speaker 2: also delivers video, and that's the problem. That's why it's
Speaker 2: included in the band. So they're not trying to stop
Speaker 2: kids from talking to each other. But if the social
Speaker 2: media platform that they're using to communicate also happens to
Speaker 2: be a video delivery platform, then.
Speaker 3: It's part of the band. And that's where, you know.
Speaker 2: I had one of my mates came out from Adelaide
Speaker 2: recently came across from Adelaide with his girlfriend and his
Speaker 2: daughter and granddaughter, and I asked the thirteen year old
Speaker 2: how she felt about because she's just on Snapchat for
Speaker 2: the whole time talking to her boyfriend.
Speaker 3: Boyfriend thirteen.
Speaker 2: Wow, that was a bit of an eye open and
Speaker 2: form constantly chatting to each other, video chatting, all that
Speaker 2: sort of stuff. But the platform that they were on
Speaker 2: is a platform that's going to get banned.
Speaker 3: And so her mother was looking.
Speaker 2: At how are we going to keep the kids connected?
Speaker 2: And I think that that's the concern that I have.
Speaker 2: I you know, and school parents giving kids permission to
Speaker 2: use social media, giving them phones. You know, we in
Speaker 2: a nanny state where everything that has to happen has
Speaker 2: to be dictated by a government and legislation. You know,
Speaker 2: whatever happened to parenting where we take responsibility for the
Speaker 2: devices we're giving to kids, you know, and we trust them.
Speaker 3: We trust that they're going to do the right thing.
Speaker 2: We talk to them, we have adult conversations and we say, look,
Speaker 2: this is what you need to look out for when
Speaker 2: you're online. You know, you're not allowed to have your
Speaker 2: phone in your room after a certain time. Friends of
Speaker 2: mine do that, all the kids, all the family, including
Speaker 2: the parents, put their phone the kitchen, the charge overnight.
Speaker 3: They don't have their phones in their rooms.
Speaker 2: So I get that the ban is important in some ways,
Speaker 2: but I'm always mindful of being told to do something
Speaker 2: that effectively takes that control away from parents and kids
Speaker 2: and disenfranchisees children. You know, if you're a trans kid
Speaker 2: living in the middle of the bush, you may lose
Speaker 2: contact with your community online and it could be really
Speaker 2: hard for them to connect with people their peers because
Speaker 2: they don't have that in their own community.
Speaker 1: I hate it when you and I agree, it's fucking annoying,
Speaker 1: very annoying. What do you think? What do you think?
Speaker 4: You know what I think? I wonder what the effect
Speaker 4: of how it undermines real laws. So now something that
Speaker 4: seemingly stupid becomes outlawed, so kids get desensitized to breaking
Speaker 4: the law. Right, there's no deal. I'll just do this
Speaker 4: and you're not legally allowed to Will I do it? Anyway?
Speaker 1: I wonder this is a good question. I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: I'm stating the obvis Is it a law.
Speaker 3: Or is it?
Speaker 1: Like? Is there is it a criminal act for a
Speaker 1: fifteen year old to be on fucking Instagram? Like? Is
Speaker 1: that a crime?
Speaker 3: Is a question?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I would Yeah, there's just a lot going on,
Speaker 1: and I'm with you. I just look, we need we
Speaker 1: need governance, and we need police and we need all
Speaker 1: of that. Of course we do, and it's great and
Speaker 1: we're so grateful. But also like when you've got the
Speaker 1: government saying your child can't do this, and it's not
Speaker 1: like we're talking about running around with a machete, like
Speaker 1: we're talking about using an app on a phone. As
Speaker 1: you said, Patrick, in some cases, those kids having access
Speaker 1: to other people via this medium is going to be
Speaker 1: good for their health, good for their social life, good
Speaker 1: for their state of mind. And I think to say
Speaker 1: it's it's universally bad, so we need to well it isn't.
Speaker 1: It isn't universally bad. Just like you know, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: we can't have kids congregating in the fucking school yard
Speaker 1: at lunchtime because bullying happens. Yeah, but ninety eight percent
Speaker 1: of the time it's not happening, or ninety nine percent
Speaker 1: of the time it's like, well, bullying happens in the playground,
Speaker 1: so we can't go to the playground. Ever, it doesn't work.
Speaker 1: I just don't know that that is a solution.
Speaker 2: But you raise the really valuable point in terms of
Speaker 2: you know, is a kid going to get fined for
Speaker 2: being fifteen and having a Snapchat account using a VPN.
Speaker 3: The laws in Australia are targeting the big.
Speaker 2: Data, the big companies, so that you know, they're targeting Meta,
Speaker 2: which owns Facebook and Instagram. They're targeting all of those
Speaker 2: platforms and saying to them they have to put mechanisms
Speaker 2: in place that don't allow young people to be on
Speaker 2: if they're under the age of sixteen. So there's a
Speaker 2: fifty million dollar fine if they aren't able to enforce that.
Speaker 2: So they're throwing it on the tech companies to do
Speaker 2: the right thing to enforce this ban. What does that
Speaker 2: mean for an individual? I don't even know. That's such
Speaker 2: a great question. But what I know is that fifty
Speaker 2: million dollar fine is going to go out to any
Speaker 2: breaches that occur that they caught out. But the reality
Speaker 2: of it is they're already talking about ways to get
Speaker 2: around that. You know, if the tech company is using
Speaker 2: a face scanner and you just get your older brother
Speaker 2: to come on and say that they're you, and they
Speaker 2: skip your face and suddenly I've got an account.
Speaker 3: A VPN is where you get a virtual private.
Speaker 2: Network and the computer that you're using or the device
Speaker 2: you're using it appears to be in another country, so
Speaker 2: you can sign up in a country where they.
Speaker 3: Don't have this bad. The rest of the world is
Speaker 3: watching this.
Speaker 2: You know, Australia has made the world stage in terms
Speaker 2: of the progressive nature.
Speaker 3: Of what it's felt by a lot of the you know,
Speaker 3: just child welfare groups.
Speaker 2: So other countries are looking to do something similar and
Speaker 2: they're watching really closely what's happening in Australia because this
Speaker 2: is a big thing for us. But how it impacts
Speaker 2: and what ends up happening is out there. We're not
Speaker 2: going to know it or December ten. You might be
Speaker 2: hearing this before or after. Tell us that's what happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, get back to us. Yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just think there's a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff that's kind of going into the space of people's
Speaker 1: private lives and you know, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: And also, are there people over sixteen who are using
Speaker 1: it in unhealthy and toxic and destructive ways? Yes? Is
Speaker 1: it doing potential damage to people over sixteen? I guess
Speaker 1: it is. I just think it's like there needs to
Speaker 1: be some kind of self regulation, like we can't have
Speaker 1: the government forever telling individuals what they can and can't
Speaker 1: do with their fucking phone or in their personal life.
Speaker 1: I mean unless it's of a criminal nature.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Patricks can I just say there are two
Speaker 2: teenagers currently who have launched a High Court challenge to
Speaker 2: this new law. By the way, what happened is that
Speaker 2: fifteen year old's Noah Jones and Macy Neeland. They've been
Speaker 2: backed by a welfare group, like a rights group, and
Speaker 2: they're arguing the band completely disregards the rights of children
Speaker 2: and they say, look, we shouldn't be so viilenced. It's
Speaker 2: like the George Orwell book nine to eighty four. There
Speaker 2: is another side to this, and that's the opinion of
Speaker 2: young people as well. So the Digital Freedom Project basically
Speaker 2: has spearheaded this case and they're filed in the High
Speaker 2: Court just recently and they're saying that teenagers rely on
Speaker 2: social media for information association and this ban could actually
Speaker 2: hurt the nation's most vulnerable children, so people with a disability,
Speaker 2: First Nations kids rule and remote kids, LGBTQ teenagers. So
Speaker 2: these are the children and the young people who stand
Speaker 2: to be disenfranchised by being disconnected from their social connectedness online. Look,
Speaker 2: whether this goes through, I'm not sure. There's a new
Speaker 2: South Wales parliamentarian, a god named John Raddick. He you know,
Speaker 2: he's kind of weighed in on this as well. So
Speaker 2: it's I don't know how much luck they'll have in
Speaker 2: the case, but it's interesting that they're fighting back.
Speaker 1: Let's keep our AI chat to just one top or
Speaker 1: one story this week, but I'm interested in this one.
Speaker 1: A backlash against AI imagery being used in ads may
Speaker 1: have begun as brands promote human made well, there's a bit.
Speaker 3: Of criticism recently.
Speaker 2: H and M and Guess got a really big backlash
Speaker 2: for using AI brand ambassadors where they've used virtual models
Speaker 2: instead of humans, and so this is where it's come from.
Speaker 2: So now companies are doing the exact opposite. So you know,
Speaker 2: there's a now that in this backlash where advertisers are
Speaker 2: saying this was made using real people.
Speaker 3: We didn't use AI to create.
Speaker 1: This how novel. Hey look this is a human. Her
Speaker 1: name's Jane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so Cadbury, Polaroid, Heineken. They're hating on AI
Speaker 2: and they're celebrating their work as being human made work,
Speaker 2: which is interesting, you know, and and when you take
Speaker 2: it to the extreme, there was this guy, I can't
Speaker 2: remember where he might have been, an American guy. He
Speaker 2: developed an AI model of an African American woman and
Speaker 2: it looked stunning and he and the thing is, but
Speaker 2: he was a white man who made an African American
Speaker 2: model and was trying to get money from that using
Speaker 2: that AI person that didn't exist, you know. So you know,
Speaker 2: when you think of it in those terms, either misrepresentation
Speaker 2: or what does it actually mean? Coca Cola did their
Speaker 2: Christmas campaign, They did a Christmas AI ad campaign and
Speaker 2: they've they've they've you know, it looks magical and it's
Speaker 2: got polar bears doing rate things and trains and Christmassy stuff.
Speaker 2: But you know, at the end of the day, you
Speaker 2: look at it and you think, oh, isn't it sad
Speaker 2: that it wasn't made by people in a sweatshop somewhere.
Speaker 3: No, that's not true.
Speaker 1: People Animators spoken and authorized by Patrick Bonello. His thoughts
Speaker 1: don't reflect all the thoughts of the project management. Now.
Speaker 2: But when you think about people who work in the
Speaker 2: film industry and.
Speaker 1: Work definitely date edit that out too, just leave that in.
Speaker 1: And I joking, when is what's your lawyer's name? Again?
Speaker 2: Well, they just resigned after hearing this segment, So I
Speaker 2: don't have one if you're a lawyer and you want
Speaker 2: to represent me, because I've put my foot in my mouth.
Speaker 2: But I guess the other thing is in the film
Speaker 2: industry at the moment, using AI, it can also mean
Speaker 2: that we can just use these AI tools to help
Speaker 2: with you know, improving the quality of the product. So
Speaker 2: what point do we not recognize that AI is just
Speaker 2: a useful tool exactly?
Speaker 1: And it depends I think like many things like social
Speaker 1: media apps like CGI or AI as we're talking about,
Speaker 1: it depends on the use. It depends on the application.
Speaker 1: Like it's not like all AI is doing bad things
Speaker 1: or you know when when they do, when they produce
Speaker 1: AI that can do an operation on me with ninety
Speaker 1: nine point nine nine nine percent accuracy or success versus
Speaker 1: a much lower figure for a human. I'm choosing the AI. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like if it's life and death,
Speaker 1: you know, I think over time we're going to find
Speaker 1: more and more. And we've spoken about this a little bit,
Speaker 1: but autonomous vehicles, and yes, can autonomous vehicles crass? Yes?
Speaker 1: Can they all these things. Yes, can human driven vehicles crash,
Speaker 1: We'll just fucking look out the window, you know. So
Speaker 1: I think there's going to be over time, there has
Speaker 1: to be just more and more acceptance and less resistant.
Speaker 1: And it's you know, by the time Patrick Craigan Tiff
Speaker 1: two point zero are sitting on a podcast, not that
Speaker 1: there'll be any in thirty years, they're going to go,
Speaker 1: remember those old dinosaurs who used to fucking drive themselves around,
Speaker 1: Remember when actors in movies were biological not technological. They'll
Speaker 1: be like, what was that about? What a weird phase
Speaker 1: of the human kind of evolution was that? I like
Speaker 1: all the shit that we're jumping up and down about now,
Speaker 1: we've done that for centuries, eon, for fucking millennia. Where
Speaker 1: something new comes along and everyone protests and says it's
Speaker 1: going to be the end of the world. Rock and
Speaker 1: roll music, it's the devil's music. It's going to destroy that.
Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't. It's you know, not that there
Speaker 1: needs to be no policing or no regulation, but I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure it's going to becoming more and more ingrained
Speaker 1: in who we are and how we operate. I've been
Speaker 1: fortunate that over the years, I've gone to a few
Speaker 1: lost arts expos where you find artisans and people who
Speaker 1: have retained these lost arts, like Blacksmith's, you know. And
Speaker 1: I bought a fireplace poker, which was amazing. It was
Speaker 1: this wrought iron.
Speaker 2: Poker with a wizard's head formed out of the metal
Speaker 2: at the top. And it was just stunning and it
Speaker 2: was great to know that a craftsman had made and
Speaker 2: made that.
Speaker 3: And it was what are you laughing and the TIFFs
Speaker 3: laughing at me?
Speaker 1: But a wizard's head?
Speaker 3: Wow? I had a wizards head on one end.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you actually have a fire they have?
Speaker 3: Of course they have a fireplace. Well would I buy
Speaker 3: a fireplace poker without a fireplace?
Speaker 1: Fucking what? You would buy a fucking spaceship.
Speaker 3: I would buy a spaceship if I could exactly.
Speaker 1: I don't think. Knowing you, I wouldn't expect you would
Speaker 1: need to have a fire to buy yourself a fireplace poker.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk tech. Soft robotic elbow cuts muscle
Speaker 1: act activity. What does that even mean? Soft robotic elbow
Speaker 1: cuts muscle activity by Oh, okay, people, it does some
Speaker 1: of it does some of the work of lifting, does it?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: So it's made of silicon, it's an exoskeleton, and it's
Speaker 2: it's very light. And what it does is if you
Speaker 2: do any any work, say in a factory work potentially
Speaker 2: where you've got this repetitive movement, it means that there's
Speaker 2: less strain, so it takes up twenty two percent of
Speaker 2: the force can be absorbed by this, and this could
Speaker 2: be revolutionary for factory workers around the world. It means
Speaker 2: that you know less pain RSI all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: So University of Texas and Arlington they developed this robotic exoskeleon.
Speaker 2: But it also so it's not about also supporting the joint,
Speaker 2: but it also literally lifts the load. So whatever you're
Speaker 2: carrying is twenty two percent lighter, or it would feel
Speaker 2: twenty two percent lighter. That'd be great in the gym,
Speaker 2: wouldn't it, Tiff, And you can put those extra weights
Speaker 2: and create.
Speaker 1: Nah, that would be from a training point of view,
Speaker 1: but from the work point of view, and I'm looking
Speaker 1: after yourself, yeah, I mean that is that's not the
Speaker 1: worst thing at all. Tell me why pre owned gadgets
Speaker 1: are becoming a thing? Why is there more and more
Speaker 1: prevalence of people Is it buying pre owned stuff. Yeah, yeah, Well.
Speaker 2: There's a bigger market now in refurbished so you know,
Speaker 2: when you look for new phones or phones.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of recent furbished stuff out there.
Speaker 2: And I think it's gone from the days of your
Speaker 2: eBay purchase of a dodgy device to just something now
Speaker 2: where they're refurbished, they come with warranties, and as people
Speaker 2: are more budget conscious, the reality.
Speaker 3: Of it is, you know the majority.
Speaker 2: Of people are just going to be as happy with
Speaker 2: an iPhone thirteen than they would with a fourteen or fifty,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. You don't have to have
Speaker 2: a two and a half thousand dollars phone if you
Speaker 2: can get one for six hundred bucks and it's going
Speaker 2: to do just as much. And there's always going to
Speaker 2: be percentage of people who will queue up to get
Speaker 2: the next phone, and then they're going to.
Speaker 3: Offload their old phone.
Speaker 2: So if you're flipping your phone literally every twelve months,
Speaker 2: then there's really good quality stuff out there. I think
Speaker 2: I've talked about this before. I haven't purchased a television
Speaker 2: for probably twenty years, and I know I sound like
Speaker 2: the tight ass, but I just know stacks of people
Speaker 2: who get rid of television's regularly because they want to
Speaker 2: go to the later and greater model, and so I
Speaker 2: just buy their old TVs, or in many cases get
Speaker 2: given them because they just want to offload them, you know, freedomine.
Speaker 2: I got given a TV by my brother which was
Speaker 2: seventy five inches.
Speaker 3: It's enormous, like Green TV. But he went to an
Speaker 3: eighty two inch.
Speaker 1: Wow, I'll take it. What There's a whole lot of
Speaker 1: conversations we could have off the back of that. You know.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite old school like gadgets. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I've told you this. I might have, but
Speaker 1: I've got a game Boy from nine and I think
Speaker 1: it's nine ninety seven, so you know that that classic size,
Speaker 1: and it's got Tetris. It's you know how you put
Speaker 1: in the discs. Yep, so it's got the old one
Speaker 1: you put that in the back came literally, what's that?
Speaker 3: It's a cartridge, not a disc? Thank you cartridge.
Speaker 1: I found that It must have been in my cupboard
Speaker 1: for oh twenty years, and I pulled it out and
Speaker 1: I went, oh, I'll put a battery in. It's fucking
Speaker 1: brand new, brand new, awesome. Yeah, it's the best, and
Speaker 1: it's lime green. It's disgusting lime green, but it's also
Speaker 1: the best color ever. So and then I usually lose
Speaker 1: myself down the Tetris rabbit hole for three days and
Speaker 1: then put it back in the cupboard for another two years.
Speaker 3: My being an identical twin brother.
Speaker 2: When we were kids and the first electronic games came out,
Speaker 2: we both got given game.
Speaker 3: We usually given gifts to share.
Speaker 2: Who gives a gift to two kids to share just
Speaker 2: because we share a same birthday?
Speaker 3: I don't hear a gift.
Speaker 2: How many of those days ended in fights and tears?
Speaker 3: Do you reckon? So?
Speaker 2: Anyway, it's such tight ass as your relatives at a
Speaker 2: working class suburbs.
Speaker 1: Shut up relatives, fucking do better. Two presents, two kids.
Speaker 3: My favorite auntie. I love her to death. She's awesome.
Speaker 2: She's my godmother and she's Irish as well. So she
Speaker 2: just did this whole Patrick. She loved me because I
Speaker 2: was My name is Patrick. I think that was the
Speaker 2: other reason. But she always just to make a big
Speaker 2: big thing about it. But she used to give us
Speaker 2: the Guinness Book of World Records. Of course it was Guinness.
Speaker 2: Why am I thinking that was funny? So she used
Speaker 2: to give us to give us book and world records
Speaker 2: to share to share, and we fought over it every year.
Speaker 2: But anyway, getting back to computer games, So I've got
Speaker 2: this two person robot fighting game where one person has
Speaker 2: like a little buttons on one side, another person on
Speaker 2: the other side, and two robots basically fire weapons.
Speaker 3: At each other. And then the other one was remember
Speaker 3: Galaxian the game Galaxian.
Speaker 1: Two people anybody I might, I think I know the name,
Speaker 1: but I've never played it.
Speaker 2: So we again had a two person game where one
Speaker 2: person stood on the other side and they had their
Speaker 2: controls and they were looking down at the screen and
Speaker 2: they played the aliens and you played the person defending.
Speaker 2: So they were both two people games. And so years later,
Speaker 2: and I think I moved up to Blant at this point,
Speaker 2: but we're talking maybe ten years ago. My brother said, jeez,
Speaker 2: you know, I wonder whatever happened to all those games
Speaker 2: that we got, And I reckon Dad threw them all away,
Speaker 2: and it's like, no, when I moved out of home.
Speaker 3: I took them still.
Speaker 1: So your brother doesn't know he does that.
Speaker 2: I admitted it now. I admitted it, and I said,
Speaker 2: actually I've got them he was so outraged that I'd
Speaker 2: taken them. It's like, well, you know I was repatriating them.
Speaker 2: You know they were mine too.
Speaker 1: Now you've got a hybrid. I've got a hybrid. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it does not. You are a hybrid. You are thirty
Speaker 1: percent female, seventy percent male. We've jumped now the numbers
Speaker 1: have changed seventy thirty the other way, China have produced
Speaker 1: a hybrid EV that drove one thousand and four hundred
Speaker 1: and forty four miles on well it's not really a tank,
Speaker 1: but let's call it one tank without refueling. Now, off
Speaker 1: the top of my head, I feel like fourteen forty
Speaker 1: five miles is significantly over two thousand kilometers on one
Speaker 1: basically one fueling. That's pretty incredible.
Speaker 2: Yep, two thousand and three hundred and twenty five kilometers
Speaker 2: is exactly how it went.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it's a Chinese car company called four FAW and
Speaker 2: this is a new milestone.
Speaker 3: So they had a hong g HS six. The Hong
Speaker 3: g HS six.
Speaker 1: Sounds pretty sick, that old chestnut.
Speaker 2: It's a plug in hybrid SU and it's set the
Speaker 2: Guinness World Record for the longest distance traveled on a
Speaker 2: single full charge and tank of fuel so without the
Speaker 2: need to refuel.
Speaker 3: And that's a staggering amount of distance.
Speaker 1: Is the challenge for evs is the biggest hurdle. I
Speaker 1: know there's a few, but is it just charging time
Speaker 1: for making them really really commercially viable and popular? You know,
Speaker 1: because I can go fill my little Suzuki Swift in
Speaker 1: three minutes with enough gas to get me around for
Speaker 1: the next week or two. But if I'm going to
Speaker 1: do the same with my I don't know, Tesla or whatever,
Speaker 1: depending on which one I've got or which Chinese EV,
Speaker 1: it could be eight to ten hours, depending on how
Speaker 1: I do it. Is that their challenge moving forward to
Speaker 1: get that time down.
Speaker 3: No, yes or no.
Speaker 2: I do agree that that is problematic when we're living
Speaker 2: in a country where range anxiety is an issue. But
Speaker 2: the reality of it is the average Australian isn't going
Speaker 2: to drive more than three or four hundred kilometers in
Speaker 2: a day. They're going to commute to work, and if
Speaker 2: you're charging, you're going to charge overnight and going to
Speaker 2: a charging state. You can go somewhere to a charging
Speaker 2: point and charge for twenty minutes and get it eighty
Speaker 2: percent of range, so you don't have to.
Speaker 3: Do that for eight hours whatever it is to go
Speaker 3: to a full charge.
Speaker 2: And in fact, the argument is that you should never
Speaker 2: charge your car to full charge. It should sit between
Speaker 2: the eighty and twenty mark, not get below twenty, but not.
Speaker 3: Get above eighty.
Speaker 2: So I think, really, when we think about any hurdles
Speaker 2: to evs, I don't think range anxiety is the issue,
Speaker 2: because the reality of it is.
Speaker 3: I mean, think about it. How often do you drive?
Speaker 2: I mean, if an average range of an EV is
Speaker 2: four hundred and fifty kilometers, how often do you drive
Speaker 2: four hundred and fifty kilometers?
Speaker 1: I do regularly because I go up and back to
Speaker 1: mums in a day, Mom and dads. Yeah, but fourred
Speaker 1: if it actually did that, well, that would cover me.
Speaker 1: That would be because I think it's it's probably only
Speaker 1: about three hundred three fifty maybe depending on if I
Speaker 1: do a little bit of yeah, a little bit of extra.
Speaker 1: But you know, one thing that's probably a bit more
Speaker 1: in my wheel house than yours. But one thing that's
Speaker 1: not really taken off is electric motorbikes.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Interesting, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Because there was a partnership between Suzuki and a few
Speaker 2: other of the big players, and they were talking about
Speaker 2: swappable batteries. The itea was that you drove into a servo,
Speaker 2: dropped the battery, put the new battery in drive off,
Speaker 2: a bit like you know, exchanging your gas cylinder with barbecues.
Speaker 2: And it made so much sense, and in fact, they
Speaker 2: teed up like three of the biggest manufacturers said, let's
Speaker 2: standardize the battery, let's be consistent, so we can have
Speaker 2: this swap and go mentality. And it sounded like such
Speaker 2: a good idea. And we've seen some amazing looking electric bikes.
Speaker 2: But I don't know whether it's a power to wait
Speaker 2: ratio in terms of whether or not you can cramp.
Speaker 2: I mean, people are riding scooters all the time, so
Speaker 2: I don't know why it wouldn't be a thing, But yeah, definitely,
Speaker 2: scooters are slowly catching on. But I think you'll find
Speaker 2: so quite a few friends of the show, Scotti Douglas
Speaker 2: who rides a motorbike, and Tip rides a motorbike, and
Speaker 2: she's got a loud bike.
Speaker 1: I've got stupid loud bike. Scott's got most. I think
Speaker 1: bikes are more emotional than practical. I mean they're practical,
Speaker 1: but It's like, I don't want a bike that makes
Speaker 1: no noise for two reasons. One safety, If you've got
Speaker 1: a loud bike, people know you're there. They're less likely
Speaker 1: to pull in front of you, cut you off, you know,
Speaker 1: open their door on you. You know, you don't want
Speaker 1: it to be overwhelmingly thunderous, but if you are on
Speaker 1: a motorbike, you would like it to be a little
Speaker 1: bit louder than the average car. And then two, as
Speaker 1: an experience, riding a motorbike that sounds amazing. It just
Speaker 1: makes it more enjoyable. And people who don't ride motorbikes,
Speaker 1: I totally understand they would go, well, that's fucking ridiculous.
Speaker 1: But you know, there's something, there's something that happens when
Speaker 1: you ride a motorbike that sounds amazing. Am I right, Tiff,
Speaker 1: that is correct.
Speaker 4: But I would like to add that Craig's bike is
Speaker 4: overwhelmingly thunderous. Overwhelmingly so he's well Mary and Ron can
Speaker 4: hear it start up way down there in till Drove Valley?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that bitch is loud, That motherfucker is. Let's
Speaker 1: just say that. Let's just say that I might need
Speaker 1: to just when I ride it up Hampton Street. I
Speaker 1: just I don't even I just gently roll that. I
Speaker 1: just I just ease that throttle on, change gears, quiet,
Speaker 1: I try and be low key. It's it's like, please
Speaker 1: don't notice that I'm riding a volcano up Hampton Street.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's a lot electric car. Because of that,
Speaker 4: now it's electric car. I would not have an electric
Speaker 4: bike since getting that, since riding with knowing with a
Speaker 4: stock exhaust and then changing the exhaust completely transformed the
Speaker 4: writing experience.
Speaker 2: And yeah, sorry it makes you sorry. Did you say
Speaker 2: you've made it louder?
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh okay, not louder than Craigs.
Speaker 1: No, no, So I was thinking, yeah, all the pseudo
Speaker 1: psychologists and oh, of course he's got it loud because
Speaker 1: he's fucking insecure, and that that exhausted just saying look
Speaker 1: at me, look at me, only child, and might I say,
Speaker 1: you're probably all correct, so carry on, you carry on.
Speaker 2: I was just while was thinking the opposite, because I've
Speaker 2: done a lot of paragliding and I always thought that
Speaker 2: I would love to be able to get a paramotor.
Speaker 3: So a paraglider is a fabric you you.
Speaker 2: Run off a cliff or you know, on the coast
Speaker 2: or down a mountain and whatever, and you use thermals
Speaker 2: for lift or whatever updraft, but you can get what
Speaker 2: they call a paramo, which is a propeller that.
Speaker 3: You put onto the back of your backpack. The problem is,
Speaker 3: for me, it's so loud.
Speaker 2: I've loved paragliding because being up there and not having
Speaker 2: a motor is amazing. But I was just thinking, while
Speaker 2: you guys were chatting about how you wouldn't go for
Speaker 2: an electric bike, that I would go for an electric
Speaker 2: paramotor because that would be phenomenal because you haven't got
Speaker 2: the sound, all the extra noise, So being an electric paramotor,
Speaker 2: I think that would be amazing. And then you don't
Speaker 2: have to climb anything. You can just kind of take
Speaker 2: off from the ground, which would be pretty cool too.
Speaker 1: You could just reincarnate as an eagle. That'd be cool.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: One of the most exciting, in fact, almost one of
Speaker 2: the last flights I did in my paraglider.
Speaker 1: With that, I notice how he just didn't even acknowledge
Speaker 1: that I spoke. Then, Tiff, did you notice that.
Speaker 3: I was telling a story that related exactly to what
Speaker 3: you're saying. You didn't give me a chance to finish.
Speaker 1: Ah, we'll try harder.
Speaker 2: So I launched at the launch site at bright and
Speaker 2: as I launched over the tree tops and got a
Speaker 2: little bit of distance away, I looked down and there
Speaker 2: was an eagle flying underneath me.
Speaker 3: Wow, spread wings.
Speaker 2: And I thought to myself at that moment, how many
Speaker 2: people have ever been in a situation with a flying
Speaker 2: above an eagle? You know, the little winglets were just
Speaker 2: kind of gently moving in the breeze. You know how
Speaker 2: they adjust the little ailerons on their wings. And I
Speaker 2: saw that from the top.
Speaker 1: See that is all. That's pretty cool. I'll give you that.
Speaker 1: One more thing before we go. I want to ask
Speaker 1: you about And I know I'm a dinosaur, and I
Speaker 1: know I've been using it for a while but not
Speaker 1: in a significant way. But lately I've been using voice
Speaker 1: to text, just in my phone, just using notes, which
Speaker 1: I know there's a million, probably a million better ways
Speaker 1: to do it, but so often when I'm going for
Speaker 1: my my myriad of walks through the day, I'll have
Speaker 1: an idea and so I just talk into my phone
Speaker 1: and by the time I get home, I've got three
Speaker 1: or four or five pages of notes. One do you
Speaker 1: use voice to text like that, Patrick, And two, is
Speaker 1: there a more efficient and effective way than what I'm doing,
Speaker 1: which is basically just pressing the audio or the microphone
Speaker 1: button and talking into notes.
Speaker 3: It's a good question. Look, I don't use it. I've
Speaker 3: got to say.
Speaker 2: I tend to like write, but I use voice to
Speaker 2: text or voice to add things to my calendar when
Speaker 2: I'm in bed and it's late at night and I
Speaker 2: suddenly think of something, so I don't have to turn
Speaker 2: the light on. I just ask to add it to
Speaker 2: my calendar and then I don't think about it anymore.
Speaker 2: Is there something more efficient? I guess it depends on
Speaker 2: what you wanted to do. If you wanted to get
Speaker 2: a summary of your notes, if you felt you know,
Speaker 2: that's where you employ an AI agent. But now what
Speaker 2: you're doing now just recording into it. If it's accurate,
Speaker 2: and you find the accuracy level as high, then I
Speaker 2: think you're doing exactly the right thing. It's a really
Speaker 2: efficient way of doing it. And you know, I'd keep
Speaker 2: doing what you're doing.
Speaker 1: I was walking yesterday and I was thinking, I'm always
Speaker 1: thinking about, like, if I've got to do a solo podcast,
Speaker 1: what's a what's something that you know that I haven't
Speaker 1: overspoken about, or maybe is somewhat fresh or a fresh
Speaker 1: angle on an old topic. But I was thinking about
Speaker 1: the idea of, you know, how everyone tells everyone how
Speaker 1: amazing they are and spectacular and incredible, and the truth
Speaker 1: is that we're all not. Some people are, but I'm
Speaker 1: wildly mediocre in most things. And I was so it's
Speaker 1: coming up with an idea of like, Okay, so maybe
Speaker 1: I don't have incredible genetics or the highest IQ. Maybe
Speaker 1: I'm not a creative genius, and maybe I'll never cure
Speaker 1: cancer or run fast or jump high or solve bloody
Speaker 1: or whatever solve the bloody quantum theory problems, or but
Speaker 1: how do I make the most out of what I've
Speaker 1: got to work with? And so this was my basis
Speaker 1: that I was walking around. I came home with pretty
Speaker 1: much a whole episode planned, and then I just cut
Speaker 1: and paste it into a dock and then it's on
Speaker 1: my computer and I tidy it up a little bit.
Speaker 1: But literally, I'm doing two things at once, which is
Speaker 1: pretty efficient. And for me, I tend to think, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I feel like I'm more creative, and I
Speaker 1: feel like my brain works better, maybe better sometimes when
Speaker 1: I'm walking than when i'm sitting. If I'm trying to
Speaker 1: conceptualize and create something, I think when I'm not sitting
Speaker 1: in this chair looking at this screen, but when I'm
Speaker 1: out and I'm just walking in nature or suburbia or
Speaker 1: a bit of both. Yeah, I feel like my brain
Speaker 1: works better. I think there's a lot to.
Speaker 2: Be said for the subconscious brain as well, what your
Speaker 2: brain is doing. You know, if you've got a puzzle
Speaker 2: to solve, a challenge to face, then when you stop
Speaker 2: thinking about it, it doesn't necessarily mean that your brain
Speaker 2: isn't still processing it. I think I've told you the
Speaker 2: story about getting a phone call from someone we both know,
Speaker 2: Andrew Jobbers, and he was struggling because he was publishing
Speaker 2: his eighth book and the designer or the publisher had
Speaker 2: a designer and he wasn't happy with the cover and
Speaker 2: he was really stressing because it had gone back to
Speaker 2: the design multiple times and he couldn't get what he wanted.
Speaker 2: So he sent me a rough draft and said I
Speaker 2: want to incorporate this, this, and this, and I said, oh, look,
Speaker 2: I can have a look at it tomorrow. Went to sleep,
Speaker 2: woke up about four am, the finished cover.
Speaker 3: Was in my mind, all done, and I just got to.
Speaker 2: The computer, got in there, produced it and that was
Speaker 2: basically the cover.
Speaker 3: I felt like I did zero work. I really did
Speaker 3: zero work.
Speaker 2: I had a concept, went to bed, subconscious brain has
Speaker 2: worked on it overnight, doing what it was doing, and
Speaker 2: the finished cover was there in the morning.
Speaker 3: Just great. Wish life was luck that all the time.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, your brain is always thinking in inverted commas,
Speaker 1: So there's thinking that happens because of us and despite us,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So there's like conscious and
Speaker 1: unconscious that it's like, this is prefrontal cortex critical thinking.
Speaker 1: I'm focused on there. And then there's the deeper stuff
Speaker 1: which is just going on while you're trying to bang
Speaker 1: out a fuse edit. The brain's funk amazing.
Speaker 2: Can I tell you a funny story about a viral
Speaker 2: video I saw recently about because I waken a bit.
Speaker 1: Can it be less than two minutes because Tiff and
Speaker 1: I have got to go Okay, really funny story.
Speaker 2: So the viral video how to get back to sleep
Speaker 2: when you wake up in the middle of the night.
Speaker 2: I always struggle with this. You get an ice pack,
Speaker 2: wrapped in a tea towel and this lay it.
Speaker 3: On your forehead because it cools your brain. I tried it.
Speaker 3: This next, doesn't it? TI.
Speaker 4: I have not tried it, but I did see an
Speaker 4: article recently. It must have gone crazy because I feel
Speaker 4: like I saw it a lot.
Speaker 1: If you were given some high level medical advice by
Speaker 1: the Crab yesterday about how to not wake up with
Speaker 1: a blood sugar level of two? Did you try it?
Speaker 1: Did you tell people? What the just again in under
Speaker 1: one minute.
Speaker 4: Tablespoon of almond butter, and I'm down with that. I
Speaker 4: love almond butter, so I have been spooning that bad
Speaker 4: boy before bed.
Speaker 3: It's great.
Speaker 1: And what did it work?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it has been. It has been, but I don't
Speaker 4: know how accurate the old We're back on everyone. We're
Speaker 4: back on the glucose monitor, which has been a wild ride. Again.
Speaker 4: Maybe the first one wasn't faulty after all.
Speaker 1: But tell people what problem you were trying to solve.
Speaker 4: So the first calibrated night, my blood sugar dropped to
Speaker 4: supposedly to two point two on at least three occasions.
Speaker 4: It's very low, and what's happening? It tends to do
Speaker 4: so about four am. Keep waking up at four am
Speaker 4: and I think it drops cortis or spikes and that
Speaker 4: wakes me up.
Speaker 1: So with the crab's prescription, that didn't happen.
Speaker 4: Well no, no, it didn't the last two nights, so tuned.
Speaker 1: Doctor Crabb at least qualified doctor in Australia. Patrick. How
Speaker 1: can people find you and follow you and connect with you?
Speaker 2: I can go to websites now dot com TODAYU that's
Speaker 2: my business website, or tai Chi at home dot com,
Speaker 2: todau which is my taichi website.
Speaker 1: The perfect great work you, great work, tiff Thanks everyone.
Speaker 1: We'll say goodbye affair, but thanks Patty, Thanks Tiffy