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Speaker 1: Apodhap, production, life stuff, life, parenting.

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Speaker 2: We're doing life together and we're just going to tell

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Speaker 1: I hate the word pairing menopause. I can't We're not

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Speaker 2: What Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: To a bonus episode of Who even Are We now?

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Speaker 1: Earlier on in the week, we did an episode on

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Speaker 1: fitness because Rachel are are a personal trainer and the

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Speaker 1: other thing I wanted to cover in this episode. And

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Speaker 1: I look at you as the person that does all

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Speaker 1: the research. I feel like you really spend a lot

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Speaker 1: of time researching what's good for us, what we should

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Speaker 1: be having, what we shouldn't be having. I take and

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Speaker 1: leave a few things. I do little things here and there.

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Speaker 1: When we talk about diet, health wellbeing. I try not

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Speaker 1: to drink tap porter.

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Speaker 2: I think that it's a big topic all on its own, Katie.

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Speaker 2: I think you'll have different, a pin very vast opinions

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Speaker 2: on this.

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Speaker 1: It's a controversial one because.

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Speaker 2: With you, you should be filtered.

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Speaker 1: Oh water is so water, it's clean. It's the problem.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know, probably as much as you know,

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Speaker 1: because you would have done more research. I don't love

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Speaker 1: the thought of drinking chlorine.

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Speaker 2: I think it's because we've got too much knowledge around

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Speaker 2: in our katie when like previously, back in the day,

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Speaker 2: as kids growing up, I can't remember our water being filtered.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember my parents putting a filter on their

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Speaker 2: tap so that everyone could have filtered. I don't remember

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Speaker 2: them going and putting a whole filter on the whole

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Speaker 2: house so that every ounce of the water coming through

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Speaker 2: the house is filtered.

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Speaker 1: None of it was filtered right we were exposed to it.

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Speaker 1: Put tap water in a jug and put it in

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Speaker 1: the fridge to exactly down. And plenty of people drink

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Speaker 1: tap water, and plenty of people say it's absolutely fine,

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Speaker 1: and that's so fine. But there are little things that

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Speaker 1: I try and do and I think to myself, oh,

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Speaker 1: Rachel would have done some research to that, And one

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Speaker 1: of them is supplements. Now, we are not doctors. We

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Speaker 1: are not telling anyone for one second what they should

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Speaker 1: and shouldn't be taking. However, I've listened to a lot

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Speaker 1: of things, and I want to make sure that I'm

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Speaker 1: taking the things that are just the obvious things. I

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Speaker 1: don't have millions of dollars to spend on every fucking

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Speaker 1: thing that's stubbed the body needs. However, I would love

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Speaker 1: to be able to pick a couple of the most

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Speaker 1: important ones. And when I've listened to health experts and

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Speaker 1: other podcasters, I've heard a lot about creating so much

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Speaker 1: so that you can't fucking buy it from a lot

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Speaker 1: of places now because the gummies and stuff are full

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Speaker 1: of sugar and sweetness and shit. The powder I'm not

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Speaker 1: buying because I will just never take it. Do I

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Speaker 1: think the pure powder is great?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Am I going to buy it? No, because I all

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Speaker 1: go in the cupboard, I'll have it a couple of times,

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Speaker 1: think it tastes like shit, and then not bother again.

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Speaker 1: So I buy the capsules. Now. Do I have any

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Speaker 1: idea what creatine does, rache No, But everybody keeps telling

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Speaker 2: I think, well, it was like anything when it first

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Speaker 2: and then I think one of the negatives was and

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Speaker 2: what women heard was that it was going to have

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Speaker 2: like an element of fluid retention or the kno on

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Speaker 2: effect to making you bigger, like muscle mass and bigger

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Speaker 2: and all we hear as women was bigger and fluid retention.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm not taking that. I have to say.

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Speaker 2: I have been taking powder creatine, and I originally started

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Speaker 2: taking it more for the fact of the brain fog.

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Speaker 2: I was just feeling hazy a little bit. It comes

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Speaker 2: gets filtered with every different brand that's possible, all being creatine,

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Speaker 2: So then naturally we all go which one should I take? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: was like, well, the best one for you. Create pure

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Speaker 2: every one of us. So there will be different creatines

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Speaker 2: starting off like with a dose that works for you.

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Speaker 2: Creatine is not one that you go in and you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I heard a lady talking about it on

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Speaker 1: be taking creative Yeah, and I think it's the same

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Speaker 2: Well, I think the same lady that you were speaking about.

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Speaker 2: She's an Australian, but she is like an actual like

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Speaker 2: neuro what she specializes in Alzheimer's and nature. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And she's saying that the creatine alone for the brain

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Speaker 2: cognition is what you should be taking it for. Like, obviously,

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Speaker 2: if you've got anything you know that you know, you

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Speaker 2: can't take creatine, you know, if there's ingredients in there

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Speaker 2: that don't work for you, obviously not. But she's sort

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Speaker 2: of looking at it from a majority of brain cognition

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Speaker 2: you know, like improve our own brain operating system, and

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Speaker 2: taking this creatine is good for.

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Speaker 1: Us, right, Yeah, I've had nothing but good things. I

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Speaker 1: just not sustainable. No one has the money for that, right,

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Speaker 1: So I want to be making sure that what I'm

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Speaker 1: million things. Now, rach As, you know, I'm the person

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Speaker 2: To do that. Where does it come from? For me?

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Speaker 2: I like to ask questions because naturally, over time I

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Speaker 2: So after my whole food diet, if I need a

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Speaker 2: little bit of topping up, that's when I use supplements.

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Speaker 2: I don't actually supplement my meals for a powder. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's ground being very clear. Well as the foods.

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Speaker 2: I think I've actually taught myself to be farm with cheese.

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Speaker 1: I think because when you have cheese, you're also having

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Speaker 2: Going back to when I am not misbehaving, I'll supplement

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Speaker 2: someone within the supplement industry. I take a gut health,

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Speaker 2: clean protein, got collagen protein in.

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Speaker 1: It is that like a powder.

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Speaker 2: It's a powder and you put it in like water, unflavored.

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Speaker 2: So I don't go for the flavored, right And so

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Speaker 2: if I feel like it, which has been most mornings, Katie,

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Speaker 2: I'll go and do my workout and I'll come back

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Speaker 2: and I put two scoops of this and one scoop

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Speaker 2: and I just knock it back. But it tastes like nothing.

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Speaker 1: Because I've tried to have brasilium husk in water before.

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Speaker 2: That just makes me gag. That's because it's that's because

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Speaker 2: And collagen and it's twenty grams of protein in their combined.

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Speaker 2: I take that post workout, and usually my workout will

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Speaker 2: be in the morning, yep. And then during the day

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Speaker 2: like whole foods like protein and fruit and vege and

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Speaker 2: your stomach in order to train. Right. Yeah, protein waters,

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Speaker 2: The protein waters have actually come up good, especially if

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a like I feel like I'm

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Speaker 2: having a naughty treat. Okay, sounds weird, right, so weird?

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Speaker 1: Oh well, when I didn't drink alcohol for two weeks

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Speaker 1: no Christmas, I would have a kombucha in a wine glass.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think whatever works for you. I also like

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Speaker 2: you between the Monday and Friday, which because I've been

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Speaker 2: looking for something between that five and seven and I

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Speaker 2: I've had to folly lead and get a kom butcher

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Speaker 2: or a sodally or something that makes me feel like

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Speaker 2: I'm having anything else other than water.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not the same as it's not the same.

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Speaker 1: We can bullshit about it. It feels as oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just as good. It's not good at all. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm not fooled by the fucking wine glass. Just got

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Speaker 2: Okay, protein water, So I'm definitely a protein slash collagen.

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Speaker 1: Any vitamins, I'm not a huge vitamin.

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Speaker 2: I'll take Vitamin D. You know. That won't be a

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