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Speaker 1: On scoring ruins Australia. This is the Winner Panalty Show.

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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Riata Panety Show.

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Speaker 3: Coming up tonight, Support for One Nation surges in Victoria,

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Speaker 3: with the latest data showing the party could soon hold

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Speaker 3: a balance of power in the state.

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Speaker 2: The panel will join me to discuss the day's top headlines.

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Speaker 3: Shocking reports claiming Australia is one of the top consumers

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Speaker 3: of child abuse content in the world. Lawyer and anti

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Speaker 3: child exploitation campaigner Andrew Carpenter will have more on that. Shortly,

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Speaker 3: The Great Josh Hammer has the latest from the US,

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Speaker 3: including Secretary of State Marco Rubio is a blistering speech

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Speaker 3: in Munich condemning the weakness of certain European allies, and

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Speaker 3: later in the aur Kinsey's Schofield would join me with

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Speaker 3: all the latest royal and celebrity news.

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Speaker 2: Including on a famous.

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Speaker 3: Teds sufferer heading back to the US and talking about

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Speaker 3: left his losing Yeah. Tonight we featured Democrat Congresswoman Alexandria

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Speaker 3: Accazio Cortez opining about geopolitics.

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Speaker 4: I think that this is such a you know, I

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Speaker 4: think that.

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Speaker 5: This is a.

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Speaker 4: This is of course a very long standing policy of

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Speaker 4: the United States.

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Speaker 3: But first fresh polling is revealed that support for One

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Speaker 3: Nation is surging in Victoria, with the latest starter showing

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Speaker 3: the party could hold the balance of power after this

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Speaker 3: year's state election in November. The poll conducted by demos

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Speaker 3: AO and Premier National puts One Nation's primary vote at

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Speaker 3: twenty one percent, just two points behind Labor at twenty

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Speaker 3: three That's down a staggering fourteen percent compared to the

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty two election result. Primary vote support for the

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Speaker 3: Victorian Coalition has also taken a hit, dropping eight percent

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Speaker 3: since October last year, but thanks to One Nation preferences

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Speaker 3: it hassed, it increased its lead over Labor in the

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Speaker 3: two party per therred vote. They are leading fifty three

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Speaker 3: to forty seven percent. They're joining me now for more

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Speaker 3: on this is chief economists at the Institute of Public

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Speaker 3: Affairs Adam Crichton and Sky News contributor Louise Roberts.

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Speaker 2: Adam, I'll start with you.

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Speaker 3: One Nation is up twenty percent on its twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: two election result in Victoria. But how many of those

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Speaker 3: votes are from disaffected labor voters? How many from coalition

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Speaker 3: and what do you see the impact being at the

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Speaker 3: state election.

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Speaker 5: Well, certainly that's a great pole for One Nation and

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Speaker 5: a terrible poleful Labor. I mean, I think they were

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Speaker 5: down fourteen percentage points. You'd have to assume that half

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Speaker 5: of the support that's gone to One Nation is from

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Speaker 5: those Labor voters.

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Speaker 1: That's if we can believe that poll. Okay, it was

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Speaker 1: a big sample, fourteen hundred people.

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Speaker 5: Demos is not one of the better pulses, I believe,

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Speaker 5: or at least not the best, I should say, of course.

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Speaker 5: So look, let's wait and say I think it's an

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Speaker 5: overall it's good for the Libs. They be winning the

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Speaker 5: election One Nation, to be picking up twelve to fifteen

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Speaker 5: seats or something like that on those numbers in the

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Speaker 5: lower House, and it's.

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Speaker 1: A terrible poleful Labor.

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Speaker 5: They would lose certainly on those figures, no question, Louise.

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Speaker 3: There's not been a lot of preference discipline on the right.

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Speaker 3: Without a coalition or at very least a very well

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Speaker 3: communicated preference steel the Labor Greens alliance could prevail here

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Speaker 3: that you got the right vote fractured and they preference

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Speaker 3: very well on the left. Just about every Greens primary

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 6: You make a very good point there, Rita, because the

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Speaker 6: Labor and the Greens do have a very well oiled

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Speaker 6: machine when it comes to preferences. They're very tight, very

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Speaker 6: tight machine in that way, whereas, of course the right

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Speaker 6: side of politics is very fractured and messy, and they've

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Speaker 6: really got to raise their game if they want to

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Speaker 6: take advantage of One Nation's rise, or else you'll see

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Speaker 6: a lot of Conservative votes practically go to waste.

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Speaker 7: I guess.

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Speaker 3: After the back of that polling, former Victorian Premier Jeff

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Speaker 3: Kennett has urged the coalition in Victoria to join forces

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Speaker 3: with One Nation and sign a preference still if it

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Speaker 3: will guarantee Labor's defeated the next election. Jeff Kennett told

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Speaker 3: the Australian newspaper that reasonable parties and Independence must unite

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Speaker 3: to throw up the Labor government, which has ruled the

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Speaker 3: state for fourteen years and is currently facing fresh accusations

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Speaker 3: of corruption regarding its dealings with the CFM MEU Adam

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Speaker 3: Mark good of the former premier to start advocating for

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Speaker 3: what we've been saying on this program for years, for years, Jeffrey,

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Speaker 3: better late than ever.

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Speaker 5: Well he's obviously a viewer of course. Well, look, I

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Speaker 5: mean he's right, they should do a deal. They must

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Speaker 5: do a deal. Historically, as you know, there's been great

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Speaker 5: reluctance on the Libs part because.

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Speaker 1: The Left attacks them for being associated with.

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Speaker 5: So called racist which which it seems to be now

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Speaker 5: as a third of the country apparently so. So it'll be

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Speaker 5: interesting to see whether the huge support for One Nation

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Speaker 5: actually means the Left is not so inclined to attack

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Speaker 5: the Liberal Party for being racist because they could be

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Speaker 5: alienating their own potential voters.

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Speaker 3: Well, the Liberal Party has got to stop being spooked

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Speaker 3: by that talks as well, o they the Liberal Party

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Speaker 3: are way too well, that's scared of any sort of

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Speaker 3: media backlash, activist backlash.

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Speaker 2: And it's to their detriment. Louise.

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Speaker 3: There's going to be a couple of tests for one

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Speaker 3: Nation's real support in the next few months, with by

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Speaker 3: elections in the Victorian state Seed of Nepean and also

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Speaker 3: in Susan Lee's federal seed of Farer, Farer, Farer, far Farer.

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Speaker 3: We'll get them in the South Wales. How do you

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Speaker 3: see that those two races. Because it's all well and

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Speaker 3: good for one Nation to be polling well in these

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Speaker 3: news polls and resis, but when it comes to actually

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Speaker 3: casting a vote, the result could be entirely different.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 6: So if it's soft in safe seat like Para, for example,

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Speaker 6: then you know, it just shows there wasn't the momentum

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Speaker 6: really there in the first place. It was more of

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Speaker 6: a bleip. It was more of a protest vote. They

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Speaker 6: need to be able to translate that into seats, and

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Speaker 6: certainly in the seat of Farah in New South Wales,

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Speaker 6: I know One Nation have been tapping up the city MP,

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Speaker 6: Helen Dalton, who's the sitting MP of Murray, New South

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Speaker 6: Wales MP, and they're sort of keen to sort of

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Speaker 6: tap into her voter base and issues that she demonstrates

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Speaker 6: and represents people on. Also businessmen like Darren de Bautley,

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Speaker 6: he's a local winemaker. They've also tapped him up too,

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Speaker 6: so they can see that someone who's in the area,

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Speaker 6: a very strong individual, is a good way for them

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Speaker 6: to go, certainly in Pharah. But if One Nation doesn't

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Speaker 6: perform well, then it's just as I say, it's just

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Speaker 6: a blip. It's not been the sort of earthquake that

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Speaker 6: we were all expecting in a way. But it's a

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Speaker 2: The sl do well really, but they should do well.

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Speaker 3: I think if they don't do well in that by election,

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Speaker 3: there's going to be real concerns for One Nation. I

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Speaker 3: don't expect them to do great things in the p

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Speaker 3: and I don't think that really a seat that's going

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Speaker 2: It's One Nation.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's not a It's not a working class seat,

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Speaker 5: is it.

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Speaker 2: He's got some very affluent cortses down there.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's more like a Liberal win. That's

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Speaker 2: Now let's talk about this piece.

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Speaker 3: Tom Switzer has written for The Australian newspaper about the

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Speaker 3: enduring ghastliness of Malcolm Turnbull after the former Prime Minister

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Speaker 3: surfaced once again last week to unload on the Liberal

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Speaker 3: Party's decision to roll Susan Lee, and he had this

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Speaker 3: to say about new leader Angus Taylor.

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Speaker 5: A lot of people say about Angus Taylor is he

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Speaker 5: is the best qualified idiot they've ever met.

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Speaker 3: Yes, charming stuff there from malc Tan, Tom Switzer wrote

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Speaker 3: in The Australian Turnbull's interventions are too often cheap and

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Speaker 3: unbecoming of a former leader of a great political party.

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Speaker 3: Instead of reasoned argument, he defaults to abuse and denigration.

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Speaker 2: From The Guardian to the ABC, he.

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Speaker 3: Delivers poisonous and deeply personal broadsides against liberal leaders and

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Speaker 3: the party he once led. Adam tom Switzer also wrote

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Speaker 3: that the only liberal leader he has refrained from denouncing is,

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Speaker 3: it seems, Susan Lee, perhaps because they share a similar,

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Speaker 3: smallerl liberal worldview. Yes, well that worked out well, didn't it,

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Speaker 3: the woman who helped destroy the party recording primary voter

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Speaker 3: of around fifteen percent. I mean, that's what Malcolm wants

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Speaker 3: for the party. I mean, I can't believe he's still

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Speaker 3: a member. I can't believe they still haven't thrown him out.

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Speaker 5: It's extraordinary behavior to use words like that like bier

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Speaker 5: and village idiot order for sorry idiot, wrote scholar mind Yeah,

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Speaker 5: a Rhode scholar. And I don't even understand, just from

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Speaker 5: a SELFI just point of view, why he's doing it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's entirely possible that Angus Tyler comes back

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Speaker 5: and does become Prime minister eventually.

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Speaker 1: You think he'd want to be friends.

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Speaker 5: With the Prime minister, and just on a social level,

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Speaker 5: he must have lots of liberal friends who find this

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Speaker 5: behavior really apports us.

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Speaker 3: Well, maybe he does, maybe he's got smaller liberal friends.

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Speaker 3: Louise I can't pretend to understand the motivations of Malcolm

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Speaker 3: Turnbull beyond the fact that I suspect he craves attention.

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Speaker 3: He likes doing interviews, he likes being headlines.

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Speaker 2: Likes being talked about. I think we're part of the

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Speaker 2: problem with Luiz. What do you say?

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Speaker 6: Perhaps but certain that's why he's nickname the ghost, isn't

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Speaker 6: he because he keeps sort of lurking around where he's

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Speaker 6: not wanted and coming out with very personal That's a

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Speaker 6: really personal comment to make about the new leader, isn't

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Speaker 6: it call immediate that way? And it's so unbecoming and

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Speaker 6: it's not constructive because if you really love Liberal Party,

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Speaker 6: he would step aside graciously and let the new leadership

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Speaker 6: team get on with it and bet in and actually

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Speaker 6: tackle the issues liberal voters want tackle, which is cost

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Speaker 6: of living, immigration, et cetera, et cetera. But with him

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Speaker 6: sniping from the sidelines, it adds no value and this

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Speaker 6: makes him look even more bitter than ever.

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Speaker 3: Really, Now to a bombshell submission claiming that Victoria's new

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Speaker 3: guaranteed work from home rights could see more police officers

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Speaker 3: leave the state's police force and make it more difficult to.

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Speaker 2: Recruit quality candidates.

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Speaker 3: A police association of Victoria told the Federal Parliament that

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Speaker 3: guaranteed remote work in other fields makes the mandatory station

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Speaker 3: duty and street patrols required for policing far less attractive.

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Speaker 3: That's a really interesting submission there, and they would know

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Speaker 3: precisely the impact this is having. Victoria's already facing massive

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Speaker 3: police shortages. There are hundreds of unfilled positions and forty

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Speaker 3: three police stations have either been shut down or had

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Speaker 3: their hours cut due to these shortfalls. And this is

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Speaker 3: happening Adam at a time where experiencing record rates of

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Speaker 3: crime in this city.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean forty three police stations is certainly quite shocking.

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Speaker 5: And as you say, I think crime is I think

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Speaker 5: there were two hundred and thirty five thousand victims of

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Speaker 5: crime in this state last year, which is up ten percent,

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Speaker 5: and that is I think, per capita, the worst of

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Speaker 5: all of the six states I believe in Australia.

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Speaker 1: It's probably also symptomatic that I think respect for.

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Speaker 5: The police in Victoria has had fallen a lot besui

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Speaker 5: of the COVID crackdown here, so there's less inclination to join.

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Speaker 5: And that's because of the government. That's because of the

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Speaker 5: labor government. It's you know, it's a very sad state

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Speaker 5: of affairs. Forty three stations, that's a lot.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely not. The law hasn't caught up with technology yet

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Speaker 8: We're all basically starting during COVID, where the Sikos couldn't

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Speaker 3: Tell my viewers what they can do to protect their children,

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Speaker 8: The best thing to know is strange danger is one

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Speaker 3: It is just so frightening, and so many parents aren't

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Speaker 8: When twenty twenty I started a campaign called Super for Survivors,

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Speaker 8: And unfortunately, with poor conviction rates, the only thing that

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Speaker 3: Andrew Carpenter, thank you so much for your time. Still

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Speaker 3: including Secretary of State Marco Ruvio's blistering speech in Munich

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Speaker 3: Next, you're watching the Reader Paney Show, and it's time

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Speaker 3: for lefties losing it.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with some happy news.

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Speaker 3: CNN has lost nearly two thirds of its viewers since

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Speaker 3: Here are five lefties, including the hosts, just yelling at him.

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Speaker 2: For existing.

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Speaker 3: I can't understand why that's not rating. It's hugely entertaining.

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Speaker 7: Ilihan Omar in particular has been the center and you

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Speaker 7: of who's to blame? Is that the Democrats are the Republicans.

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Speaker 9: If we meet and you call me by the wrong pronouns,

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Speaker 3: You see, it's not about making lives harder. It's about

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Speaker 3: Now to Munich, where Secretary of State Marco Rubia delivered

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Speaker 4: Was a pure appeal to Western culture. My favorite part

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Speaker 2: You know, it is very thin.

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Speaker 4: of the United States.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 4: And I think what we are hoping for is that

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Speaker 4: we want to make sure that we never get to

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Speaker 4: that point.

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Speaker 3: Oh dear, They're not sending their best, are they? But

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Speaker 3: it gets worse. Also on that panel was the Democrat

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Speaker 3: governor of Michigan, Gretchen Widmar. Listen to how she flounders

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Speaker 3: trying to answer a question about Ukraine, and she even

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Speaker 3: says that IOC is much better quip to talk about

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Speaker 3: geopolitics the IOC. We just heard really goodness on Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: What does victory look like?

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Speaker 2: I love hear your answers.

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Speaker 12: It is the two.

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Speaker 11: The two that I am on the panel with are

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Speaker 11: much more steeped in foreign policy than a governor is.

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Speaker 11: But you know, I do think that Ukraine independents, keeping

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Speaker 11: their land mass and having the support of all the allies,

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Speaker 11: I think is the goal from my vantage point.

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Speaker 3: Now, compare the Democrats contribution at the Munich Security Conference

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Speaker 3: to this blistering address from the Secretary of State Micro Rubio,

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Speaker 3: who spelled out to America's European allies that the Trump

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Speaker 3: administration has no interest in being polite and oddly caretakers

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Speaker 3: of the West's managed decline.

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Speaker 2: This is brilliant. Listen to every word.

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Speaker 12: And this is why we do not want our allies

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Speaker 12: to be weak, because that makes us weaker. We want

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Speaker 12: allies who can defend themselves so that no adversary will

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Speaker 12: ever be tempted to test our collective strength. This is

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Speaker 12: why we do not want our allies to be shackled

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Speaker 12: by guilt and shame. We want allies who are proud

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Speaker 12: of their culture and of their heritage.

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Speaker 1: Who understand that we are.

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Speaker 12: Heirs to the same great and noble civilization, and who

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Speaker 12: together with us, are willing and able to defend it.

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Speaker 12: And this is why we do not want allies to

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Speaker 12: rationalize the broken status quo. Rather than a reckon Willard

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Speaker 12: is what.

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Speaker 1: Is necessary to fix it.

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Speaker 12: For we in America have no interest in being polite

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Speaker 12: and orderly caretakers of the West's managed.

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Speaker 3: Decline, and Marco Rubio made it clear that the US

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Speaker 3: alliance with Europe must be built on strength and the

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Speaker 3: values of Western civilization.

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Speaker 2: I'm warning you you may need a cold shower or

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Speaker 2: a cigarette after hearing this.

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Speaker 12: We do not seek to separate, but to revitalize an

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Speaker 12: old friendship and renew the greatest civilization in human history.

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Speaker 12: What we want is a reinvigorated alliance that recognizes that

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Speaker 12: what has ailed our societies is not just a set

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Speaker 12: of bad policies, but a malaise of hopelessness and complacency.

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Speaker 12: An alliance is what that we want is one that

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Speaker 12: is not paralyzed into an action by fear, fear of

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Speaker 12: climate change, fear of war, fear of technology. Instead, we

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Speaker 12: want an alliance that boldly races into the future. And

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Speaker 12: the only fear we have is the fear of the

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Speaker 12: shame of not leaving our nations prouder, stronger, and wealthier

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Speaker 12: for our children.

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Speaker 1: An alliance ready.

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Speaker 12: To defend our people, to safeguard our interests, and to

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Speaker 12: preserve the freedom of action that allows us to shape

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Speaker 12: our own destiny, not one that exists to operate a

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Speaker 12: global welfare state, and atone for the purported sins of

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Speaker 12: past generations.

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Speaker 3: Joining me now is Newsweek's senior editor at Large, Josh Hammer.

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Speaker 2: Josh C.

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Speaker 3: Secretary of State, received a standing ovation after that speech.

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Speaker 3: That is something to behold from the European political class.

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Speaker 3: And that speech was profound, every single word.

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Speaker 9: Rita.

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Speaker 13: It's a defining speech for Mark Rubia. He has already

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Speaker 13: been historic Secretary of State. He is the first man

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Speaker 13: since Henry Kissinger to survey the dual capacity as Secretary

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Speaker 13: of State and National security Advisor. He has arguably been

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Speaker 13: at Donald Trump's number one foreign policy advisor when it

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Speaker 13: comes to a lot of Donald Trump's louder Boulder moves

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Speaker 13: on the world stage, things like the operation in Iran

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Speaker 13: and last June, things like the Nicholas Maduro extraction in Venezuela,

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Speaker 13: just about a month and a half ago there, and

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Speaker 13: now he is coming to this venue deep in the

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Speaker 13: heart of Europe, and he's giving an absolute barn burner

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Speaker 13: of a half hour speech. Frankly, as someone who follows

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Speaker 13: Mark Willia pretty closely, I think BA actually to a

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Speaker 13: speech that he also gave in Jerusalem, and much short spech.

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Speaker 13: He gave about a six to seven and made ten

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Speaker 13: minutes speech in Jerusalem back in September to commemorate the

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Speaker 13: opening of this new archaeological excavation there in the city

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Speaker 13: of David, and he spoke very similarly about how the

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Speaker 13: origins of Western civilization were laid here in these stones

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Speaker 13: here in Jerusalem. And I kind of heard those overtones

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Speaker 13: there with his reminder to the European powers, or at

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Speaker 13: least the European former powers, that they have a rich

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Speaker 13: heritage and a rich civilizational history. And look, he's basically saying,

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Speaker 13: we don't want to divorce you. We're actually quite happy

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Speaker 13: historically with being your partners when it comes to NATO,

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Speaker 13: when it comes to the mutual thread of the Soviet Union,

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Speaker 13: the Cold War there. But guess what the calendar is

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Speaker 13: now twenty twenty six, and there are a lot of

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Speaker 13: different threats on the world stage. There is the harrowing

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Speaker 13: rise of communist China. There is the rise of Islamism there,

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Speaker 13: and if Europe wants to remain relevant, they have to

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Speaker 13: recover what they once were not doing a very good

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Speaker 13: job of that, are we there. So it's a very

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Speaker 13: solemn warning to the European leads. The fact that it

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Speaker 13: frankly was received with no shorts of applause, as you

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Speaker 13: correctly mentioned, Rita, shows that perhaps perhaps there is more

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Speaker 13: of an appetite than some of us give them credit

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Speaker 13: for for actually listening to this message. The prove ultimately,

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Speaker 13: of course, will be in the pudding on that.

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Speaker 2: It will.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a very fractured Europe right now. You've

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Speaker 3: got countries that have heard that warning that have turned

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Speaker 3: to the center rise from it to Finland, and you've

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Speaker 3: got other countries that are just further doubling down on

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Speaker 3: that leftist mentality, that neo Marxist ideology. Now I want

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Speaker 3: to play your Marco Rubio here, warning Western allies about

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Speaker 3: outsourcing their power to systems beyond their control. This sounds

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Speaker 3: like a rejection of globalization.

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Speaker 12: An alliance that does not allow its power to be outsourced, constrained,

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Speaker 12: or subordinated to systems beyond its control, one that does

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Speaker 12: not depend on others for the critical necessities of its

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Speaker 12: national life, and one that does not maintain the polite

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Speaker 12: pretense that our way of life is just one among many,

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Speaker 12: and that asked for permission before it acts.

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Speaker 3: Josh, she rejected the notion there that all cultures are equal,

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Speaker 3: something that AOC was very aggrieved about when she spoke.

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Speaker 2: Later.

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Speaker 3: He equivocally stated in that beach, the value of Western

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Speaker 3: civilization you either protect it and advance it, or you

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Speaker 3: destroyed from within.

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Speaker 13: Josh, Look, reader, Marco Rubio is a nationalist. He is

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Speaker 13: not a globalist. He is not a transnationalist. He is

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Speaker 13: an American nationalist. His views when it comes to all

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Speaker 13: sorts of issues have taken a markedly national direction, and

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Speaker 13: they have been really trending that away for many, many

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Speaker 13: years now. I actually remember back in twenty nineteen again

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Speaker 13: I fall mark group pretty closely, especially as a Floridian

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Speaker 13: by choice. He gave a speech at the Catholic University

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Speaker 13: of America I believe was in twenty nineteen articulating his

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Speaker 13: theory of economics, which you refer to as common good capitalism,

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Speaker 13: which is kind of a more nationalist, less las a

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Speaker 13: fair absolutist approach to economics there that calls for reshoring

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Speaker 13: supply chains things they're trying to produce, more manufacturing at home,

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Speaker 13: basically a rejection back then in economics when it comes

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Speaker 13: to the siren song of globalism there, Globalism certainly has

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Speaker 13: had his benefits when it comes to economics, lower prices,

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Speaker 13: free traits out are there. But the point that Rubios

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Speaker 13: makeing correctly is that it has come at a pretty

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Speaker 13: steep cost as well. And now here in Munich he's

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Speaker 13: doing a very similar thing when it comes not just

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Speaker 13: to economics, but also when it comes to culture. He

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Speaker 13: is correctly saying that not all cultures are equal. In fact,

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Speaker 13: some cultures, I would argue, I think probably Rubio would too,

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Speaker 13: are objectively better than others in pretty much every demonstrable

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Speaker 13: empirical way possible, when it comes to stands of living,

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Speaker 13: when it comes to GDP, when it comes to material wealth,

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Speaker 13: when it comes to subjective indications of personal happiness. There

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Speaker 13: and you know, this is the modern Republican party, reader,

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Speaker 13: This is the Republican Party of the twenty twenties. It's

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Speaker 13: not George W. Bush's Republican Party. Back in his second

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Speaker 13: inaugural address in January two thousand and five, Bush famously

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Speaker 13: spoke of the freedom Agenda and how is America's role

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Speaker 13: to forcibly export its idiosyncratic version of Western liberalism to

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Speaker 13: all places of the world. There he basically said that

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Speaker 13: the Taliban just wants this Jeffersonian lockey and liberalism. And

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Speaker 13: here's Mark Rubio twenty years later basically saying, actually, no,

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Speaker 13: that's not the case. There are some cultures that don't

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Speaker 13: want what we want there, and ultimately up to America

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Speaker 13: to protect her interests and then to ally with like

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Speaker 13: minded countries to better secure and protect their own regions.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 13: That's in theory where Europe comes in again. The relevant

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Speaker 13: part here is in theory.

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Speaker 3: Very similar tones to Jadie Vance's speech in Europe last year,

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Speaker 3: and that was seen as groundbreaking by many now talking

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Speaker 3: about destroying the West from within. I want to play

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Speaker 3: you a clip of former President Barack Obama claiming here

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Speaker 3: that it's Republicans and generally those on the right who

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Speaker 3: push angry, divisive US then politics.

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Speaker 10: The other side, does the mean angry Chemicgogury. You know,

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Speaker 10: exclusive us them, you know, divisive politics. That's their that's

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Speaker 10: that's their home court. Yeah, our court is coming together.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, Josh, what's your response to that wild projection

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Speaker 3: from the former president?

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Speaker 13: You know, doesn't this guy have better things to do

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Speaker 13: with his time? I mean, I mean that's actually literally

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Speaker 13: my first take. You know, we all saw Hillary Clinton,

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Speaker 13: they are speaking at the Munich Security Conference, and you know,

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Speaker 13: I mean, whether it's her Barack Obama, I mean, don't

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Speaker 13: these old Democrats do they have nothing better to do

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Speaker 13: with their time? I mean, does Hillary Clinton not prefer

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Speaker 13: to go shill for the Qatar sponsor Clinton Foundation? Does

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Speaker 13: Barack Obama not prefer to go shill with Michelle Obama

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Speaker 13: on their multimillion dollar Netflix Netflix package? I mean, why

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Speaker 13: why do this?

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Speaker 4: First?

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Speaker 13: Well, historically speaking, it was it was the job of

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Speaker 13: former presidents to basically fade into obscurity. And it's very

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Speaker 13: notable that Barack Usaint Obama was the first president to

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Speaker 13: not leave Washington, DC. I cannot emphasize this point to Enoughrito.

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Speaker 13: There was a long tradition going back a century entry

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Speaker 13: and a half, a very very long time in America

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Speaker 13: where you would physically move out, because that was a

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Speaker 13: symbol that you were going to remove yourself and fade

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Speaker 13: out of the public eye.

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Speaker 1: George W.

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Speaker 13: Bush, for instance, he had many flaws at president, but

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Speaker 13: to his great credit, he went totally out of the picture.

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Speaker 8: There.

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Speaker 13: He went bath to Dallas, Texas. He focused on painting.

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Speaker 13: He was taking art classes. Can't Barack Obama just take

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Speaker 13: art classes. He's just such a narcissist. I mean, he

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Speaker 13: just can't avoid the public image. So that's my very

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Speaker 13: first takeaway. I think the second takeaway is, dude, what

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Speaker 13: are you smoking? I mean, this is the guy who, famously,

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Speaker 13: on the prespice of being elected president in two thousand

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Speaker 13: and eight, said that he was out there and that

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Speaker 13: he was going to stick it to the bitter clingers

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Speaker 13: who were bitterly clinging to their guns and their religion.

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Speaker 13: Just days before he was elected over John McCain, he

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Speaker 13: said that we are days away from fundamentally transforming the

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Speaker 13: United States of America, and it should be self evidence

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Speaker 13: that one does not seek to fundamentally transform that which

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Speaker 13: he loves. And frankly, most Americans love their country. So

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Speaker 13: you want to talk about divisive, Well that was pretty divisive.

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Speaker 13: His whole presidency was divisive, actually the Obamacare statue, the

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Speaker 13: Aron Nuclear deal. But this that there when he famously

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Speaker 13: stood over a Paul Ryan, Eric Canterer said, hey, guys,

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Speaker 13: I won, you lost. As his justification a passing Obamacare.

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Speaker 13: So he's the last person in the world who's talking

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Speaker 13: about this. There, the hutzper, frankly is through the roof.

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Speaker 13: But again, as I said, this is the guy who

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Speaker 13: famously refused to move out of DC because he just

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Speaker 13: thinks that he is that much brighter and more special

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Speaker 13: than everyone else. Guess what he's not.

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Speaker 3: Well, maybe he didn't move out of DC because he

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Speaker 3: had that infamous the term. Under the Biden years, there

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Speaker 3: was a lot of conjecture about really who was calling

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Speaker 3: the shots, because we know it wasn't Joe Biden. He

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Speaker 3: was not cognitively sound throughout much of that present presidency. Now,

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Speaker 3: I mentioned earlier in Lefties Losing It that CNN has

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Speaker 3: lost nearly two thirds of its viewership since twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 3: just an incredible decar and when compared to the same

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Speaker 3: part of the year in twenty twenty one, the drops

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Speaker 3: were even more pronounced Josh seventy one percent for prime

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Speaker 3: time and seventy three percent during the day. This is

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Speaker 3: according to the latest Nielsen ratings. How can they reverse this, Josh,

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Speaker 3: or do they even have an appetite for reversing it?

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Speaker 3: Because they have become an activist network, ratings and breaking

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Speaker 3: news don't seem to be a huge consideration.

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Speaker 13: Read Frankly, I don't know that they actually want to

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Speaker 13: turn this round. I genuinely am not because, Frankly, viewers,

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Speaker 13: I've been fleeing the network for years and years and years,

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Speaker 13: and they've done virtually nothing to try to change course.

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Speaker 13: There are precisely two people on CNN who are worth watching.

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Speaker 13: One is my Salem colleague Scott Jennings, who is absolutely

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Speaker 13: amazing and owns the libs there on a seemingly day in,

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Speaker 13: day out basis. The other is Harry Anton, who I've

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Speaker 13: known since we were eighteen years old Gonna Go way Back,

698
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Speaker 13: who is just a very funny, well spoken, purely objective,

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Speaker 13: nerdy polls guy. He's no ideology, no policy, no nothing,

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Speaker 13: just pure entertainment kind down the polls. So the only

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Speaker 13: two people that have any kind of core of viewership

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Speaker 13: these days are onely tooken conservative to the totally non

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Speaker 13: ideological nerdy polls guide there. As for all the other

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Speaker 13: jokers there, Jake Tapper, wolf Blitzer got Caitlyn Collins, My

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Speaker 13: god there. I mean, who's watching these people? I mean, like,

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Speaker 13: who was the person who was getting up the morning

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Speaker 13: and say, oh, my god, I cannot wait to see

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Speaker 13: what Caitlyn Collins or Aaron Burnett says on CNN's day.

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Speaker 13: I mean, that demographic to the extent that ever existed,

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Speaker 13: simply does not exist anymore. And it's actually not just

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Speaker 13: a cable news thing. A lot of people say, oh,

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Speaker 13: people are fleeing cable news in general. Not true. Actually,

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Speaker 13: Fox News currently is putting up the greatest numbers in

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Speaker 13: the history of American cable news. So people are definitely

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Speaker 13: not fleeing Fox News. They're fleeing CNN faster than you

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Speaker 13: could say wolf Blitzer though, because they've been offered this

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Speaker 13: scene barely warmed over pablum for years and years and years.

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Speaker 13: And you know, there's some rumors as to whether or

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Speaker 13: not the owners might seek to divest CNN there, but

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Speaker 13: either way, this is not going to have a happy

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Speaker 13: ending if they continue in the current route.

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Speaker 3: Well, their digital traffic ause a lot of people point

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Speaker 3: to online viewership because that's growing at a rapid pace.

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Speaker 3: But again CNN seems to be struggling there against competitors.

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Speaker 3: So it's the product, it's the content that people are rejecting.

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Speaker 3: Josh Hamma, thank you so much for your time tonight.

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Speaker 2: Thank you still to come.

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Speaker 3: A famous TEDS sufferer is heading back to the US.

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Speaker 3: Kinsey Schofield has the details.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, joining me now, celebrity and royal commentator Kinsey Schofield.

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Speaker 2: Kin Let's start with Rosie O'Donnell.

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Speaker 3: Who's admitted to secretly returning to the US to suss

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Speaker 3: out whether it's still safe for her after President Trump

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Speaker 3: threatened to revoke her citizenship following her move to Ireland

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Speaker 3: last year. We will remember her fleeing to Ireland. Can

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Speaker 3: see this is hilarious on so many levels.

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Speaker 2: Tell me more, I know.

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Speaker 14: I mean, multiple ice incidents and protests all over the

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Speaker 14: country and Rosie's like, let me go home, let me

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Speaker 14: see if everything's okay. It's remarkable she made a very

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Speaker 14: public move overseas framed as political fear. Now she's coming home.

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Speaker 14: That tells you everything. That reality rarely matches the rhetoric.

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Speaker 14: Celebrity political exits often generate headlines, but most of them

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Speaker 14: still maintain ties to the US because their careers, audiences,

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Speaker 14: and business interests are here. Miilee Cyrus, I'm looking at you.

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Speaker 14: It feels less like exile and more like just you know,

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Speaker 14: pr Spin just a little hissy fit.

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Speaker 3: Now talking about attention seekers and hisy fits an ex

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Speaker 3: ESPN personality. Sarah Spain has unleashed an attack on Vice

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Speaker 3: President jd Vance after sitting near him at the Winter Olympics.

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Speaker 2: She said, when I see.

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Speaker 3: Jd Vance's eyeliner face, I literally feel ill.

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Speaker 2: I said, I feel like.

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Speaker 3: I just looked at a demon, like the devil, and

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Speaker 3: I don't even believe in that. I mean, this woman

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Speaker 3: needs help. She needs professional help. That's what I think

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Speaker 3: her loved ones should be organizing. But Kinsey, what triggered

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Speaker 3: this out burst? Surely can't just speak that she was

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Speaker 3: in the same vicinity as the veep.

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Speaker 14: I think, sadly it is. You're right, we're calling for

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Speaker 14: an intervention. This is just an example of that political

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Speaker 14: discourse that's personal insult instead of actual debate, not giving

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Speaker 14: that the benefit of the doubt. I mean saying you

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Speaker 14: feel physically or just sitting next to someone is performative

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Speaker 14: outrage and honestly, these kinds of comments usually backfire on

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Speaker 14: these personalities because they make the individual look emotional rather

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Speaker 14: than persuasive. Voters tend to respond better to arguments about

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Speaker 14: policy versus, in this case, a hormonal hissy fit.

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Speaker 2: And also, whatever your politics. JD.

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Speaker 3: Vans is known as one of the nicest guys, one

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Speaker 3: of the most genuine people in DC, who actually loves

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Speaker 3: his wife and has a really beautiful family. To so

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Speaker 3: look at that and see something demonic, I think you

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Speaker 3: need help, lady, you need help now. She's going to

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Speaker 3: be triggered by this next story because the Millennia documentary

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Speaker 3: continues to see huge success. It was the highest opening

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Speaker 3: documentary in a decade, and despite receiving just widespread hate

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Speaker 3: from the critics, all sorts of really terrible reviews, Kinzi,

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Speaker 3: it's doing really well at the box office.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, I think the success of this documentary

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Speaker 14: shows there was always public curiosity about Milania that the

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Speaker 14: media underestimated.

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Speaker 2: Vogue, We're looking at you.

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Speaker 14: She's one of the most private modern first ladies, which

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Speaker 14: actually increases audience's fascination with her and you know, when

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Speaker 14: critics dismiss her, it tends to energize viewers who feel

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Speaker 14: like she's been misunderstood. I think the strong ratings or

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Speaker 14: reaction prove there's a huge market for her story, whether

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Speaker 14: political commentators like it or not.

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Speaker 2: Now let's talk about the Royals.

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Speaker 3: Meghan Markol has shared the first ever photo of four

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Speaker 3: year old Lily Bett's face. This is the first time

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Speaker 3: we've seen her face. This was in a Valentine's Day

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Speaker 3: post on Instagram, where she wrote that husband Prince Harry

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Speaker 3: and their two children are her forever Valentine's kinsey.

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Speaker 14: That's niceah, really, color me senecal. I think that there's

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Speaker 14: reeks of hypocrisy after just days ago, we literally watched

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Speaker 14: Prince Harry have a ment be mental breakdown in front

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Speaker 14: of a group of bereaved parents who lost their children

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Speaker 14: to online bullying and social media. So Harry goes and

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Speaker 14: is crying in front of these people about how the

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Speaker 14: Internet is evil, social media is evil, and days later,

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Speaker 14: Megan slaps a picture of Lily on Instagram. I mean,

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Speaker 14: I'm sorry, but these two are not on the same page.

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Speaker 3: They're certainly not on the same page that I think

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Speaker 3: we're going to agree on now at Tourney General Pam

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Speaker 3: Bondi has finally released the Epstein Least, a collection of

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Speaker 3: three hundred politicians and prominent people who were named in

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Speaker 3: the files, telling Congress that all the documents that the

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Speaker 3: Department of Justice was required to reveal have now been

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Speaker 3: made public. Cansey, are there big names that are going

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Speaker 3: to be worried about this release?

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Speaker 14: I mean I looked. I think like we had this

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Speaker 14: conversation last week where Joe Rogan was like, look, I'm

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Speaker 14: on the list because I refuse to meet with him.

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Speaker 2: And that's what we're saying.

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Speaker 14: A lot of pushback because there are a lot of names,

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Speaker 14: Megan Markles on this list. There are a lot of

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Speaker 14: names on this list, and there are people that, in

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Speaker 14: no way, shape or form had anything to do with

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Speaker 14: Jeffrey Epstein. So I would like beg people to keep

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Speaker 14: that in mind before judging someone because their name is

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Speaker 14: on the list. Jeffrey Epstein cultivated powerful contacts everywhere from

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Speaker 14: politics to business to entertainment. The real question investigators look

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Speaker 14: for is evidence of criminal participation, not just associations. So yes,

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Speaker 14: prominent names do appear on this list, but what matters

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Speaker 14: legally is whether there's proof tied to actual offenses.

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Speaker 11: Now.

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Speaker 3: Sources told The UK Times that King Chiles did not

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Speaker 3: contribute to the twelve million dollar pound payout made by

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Speaker 3: his brother Andrew mount Batten Windsor to settle a case

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Speaker 3: brought against Seem by Virginia Jiuffrey, who accused the former

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Speaker 3: prince of having sex with her when she was just

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Speaker 3: seventeen years old, and she said she was trafficked to London.

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Speaker 2: By Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 3: Kinsey, there's no doubt that this whole issue is having

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Speaker 3: a detrimental effect on the Royals. We saw Prince of

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Speaker 3: King Charles, I should say heckled last week. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that doesn't happen to the Royals. He was asked about

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Speaker 3: when he knew about his brother's association with Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 2: How are they going to handle this going forward?

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Speaker 14: Well, first of all, thank you for giving me the

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Speaker 14: opportunity to respond to this story, because I found out

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Speaker 14: about the original accusation in real time and I reacted organically.

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Speaker 14: I was like, I'm horrified. I can't defend the royal

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Speaker 14: family anymore. But here we have the royal family and

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Speaker 14: King Charles specifically saying, actually, I did not contribute, and

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Speaker 14: this distinction matters in farmously for the monarchy. If the

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Speaker 14: King didn't personally find Andrew's settlement, it reinforces the Palace's

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Speaker 14: position that Andrew's legal problems are his own responsibility. The

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Speaker 14: King has spent years trying to slim down the working

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Speaker 14: monarchy and distance the institution from scandal. Financial separation is

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Speaker 14: part of protecting the Crown's credibility. And again, exile, exile, exile.

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Speaker 14: We don't want to see Andrew, we don't want to

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Speaker 14: hear from him, and it's my understanding he's currently under

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Speaker 14: investigation and potentially in trouble for sharing government secrets, so

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Speaker 14: it might not be so easy to get rid of him.

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Speaker 3: Goodness may Now, let's move on to actress and comic

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Speaker 3: Amy Schumer, who's posted a selfie of herself in front

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Speaker 3: of a crying corner banner for her first Valentine's Day

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Speaker 3: since announcing her divorce from husband Chris Fisher Kinsey. Is

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Speaker 3: this comedy or is it genuinely sad? I thought she

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Speaker 3: was having a glow up and living her best life.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, we miss her dirty carpet. What happened into all

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Speaker 14: of those those photo shoots she was taking along the carpet,

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Speaker 14: they needed a steam cleaning. I mean, divorce is obviously painful,

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Speaker 14: but Amy has always processed personal moments publicly posting something

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Speaker 14: like a crying corner fits her brand and turning drama

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Speaker 14: into content.

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Speaker 2: It just feels so cheap to me.

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Speaker 14: Celebrities today they monetize their failure and sharing messy life transformations.

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Speaker 14: I guess it strengthens audience connection. So I don't know.

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Speaker 14: I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and say

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Speaker 14: she's trying to relate to her audience, But a little

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Speaker 14: piece of me feels like, you know, she's trying to

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Speaker 14: get that money, honey. She knows it'll attract a lot

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Speaker 14: of likes and clicks.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 3: It is very relatable, so I'm sure it's going to

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Speaker 3: get plenty of clicks. But what about the concerns her

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Speaker 3: friends had about some of those social media posts.

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Speaker 2: There was a series of bathing suit pictures in her

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Speaker 2: living room with that carpet you mentioned. Is that been handled?

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Speaker 2: Is she okay?

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Speaker 14: Well, she was called out for that. I think she

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Speaker 14: was embarrassed by that, and we did see her pivot,

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Speaker 14: We saw her change her content. This is going back

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Speaker 14: to flirting with her personal life a little bit more.

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Speaker 14: But we haven't seen her on any bikinis lately, and

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Speaker 14: I'd like to thank the Lord Jesus Christ for that.

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Speaker 3: Kitsy Schofield, thank you so much for your time, and

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Speaker 3: that's all the time we have tonight.

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Speaker 2: I'll see you at eleven tomorrow night. Don't go anywhere.

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