Speaker 1: Coops State of Origin heading for a decider, which is
Speaker 1: always a huge game.
Speaker 2: Have you you played numerous deciders couple? Yeah, it's difficult.
Speaker 3: Coming New South Wales. Yeah it is. It's the it's
Speaker 3: obviously the pinnacle and the biggest games of the year,
Speaker 3: and there's this sort of strange thing before kickoff you're
Speaker 3: supremely confident, but then fear and terror kicks in because
Speaker 3: it is the biggest game of the year and can
Speaker 3: you do it? It's the one game that you'd love
Speaker 3: to be a part of. But then the other part
Speaker 3: of it is you just don't want to be the
Speaker 3: one that stuffs it up to.
Speaker 1: Coops, and that is that is such a natural emotion.
Speaker 1: It's the primary emotion going into big games. Is that
Speaker 1: nervousness and total fear that you're going to be the bloke.
Speaker 3: And home ground advantage plays a part. Now it's not everything,
Speaker 3: but I just remember a couple of origin deciders a
Speaker 3: sun call and it became a factor early on if
Speaker 3: you started well. So for New South Wales need to
Speaker 3: start well and that crowd will bring them home.
Speaker 1: Just on on game two we'll have our saying it.
Speaker 1: The big talk is DC going in the game and
Speaker 1: whether it was going to be work or not. Given
Speaker 1: the side he picked, it was always going to be
Speaker 1: in hindsight. Clearly did going to congratulate Billy for that.
Speaker 1: Munster elevating Munster captain was a master stroke and didn't
Speaker 1: simplify their attack.
Speaker 3: Best players, what do you think? Do you think Monster
Speaker 3: was the best player on the ground.
Speaker 1: I thought Monster was the best player short half head
Speaker 1: over Kirk Capewell, and I thought Payne Hasse and were
Speaker 1: pretty pretty special.
Speaker 3: I had Ruben Connor as my own man for Queensland.
Speaker 3: I thought his performance was outstanding, just defensively. I haven't
Speaker 3: seen too many New South Wales players be put on
Speaker 3: their backside through the work of Monster. Outstanding. I think
Speaker 3: Tyler deserves a big rugby. He did everything he could
Speaker 3: for New South Wales. But in terms of Monster in
Speaker 3: the elevation the No DC, there was two parts to it.
Speaker 3: I think Queensland's halves were and spined to be fair,
Speaker 3: were way more direct. Yes, they were arrows straight in
Speaker 3: the way they attacked it. And Munster's sort of influence
Speaker 3: on the team wasn't you know. It's the way that
Speaker 3: he communicated. It was more that he just knew the
Speaker 3: responsibility he had and he delivered with that. Like go
Speaker 3: back and watch when he walked out in the field.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. He is a character. Everyone loves him,
Speaker 3: but he was not going to let down his state
Speaker 3: the way that he was dialed in and that simple
Speaker 3: promotion to captain is that sole reason that he was
Speaker 3: going to lead from the front.
Speaker 1: Coop, I've never seen him so stonefaced and made one
Speaker 1: point he sort of like almost shook with excitement, and
Speaker 1: that would have been adrenaline and evidence of that Coop
Speaker 1: was his first kick, like when he was adrenalized and
Speaker 1: he was excited about the contest seven tackle set which
Speaker 1: I thought New South Wales.
Speaker 2: Went down and scored from memory.
Speaker 1: But that's just as you know, Coop, it can be
Speaker 1: a difficult thing going in a really big game when
Speaker 1: you're playing in the harves and you've got to see
Speaker 1: the side around the park and you got to make
Speaker 1: smart decisions, you got to play with some new when
Speaker 1: there's adrenaline pumping through you.
Speaker 3: I know caramansa well and played a lot of forty
Speaker 3: with him. I've never seen him like that. Before we
Speaker 3: go and watching it, I just thought, oh my goodness,
Speaker 3: this is the biggest moment his career up to that point.
Speaker 3: You could tell how dialed in he was. He was
Speaker 3: not going to take a backwards step and he's going
Speaker 3: to lead from the front. And there was a couple
Speaker 3: of moments from him, like running the football, a couple
Speaker 3: of early kicks that really got the job done. So
Speaker 3: I just I really marveled at.
Speaker 2: What he did throughout Origin history just thinking about it.
Speaker 1: Think like Queensland, some of their greatest players have been
Speaker 1: quite unheralded, if you know what I mean, that have
Speaker 1: not been.
Speaker 2: So much surprise selections.
Speaker 1: But you look out on paper and you go, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, like Gary Larson, if I made sense back there,
Speaker 1: I mean, Billy Moore, what Billy you provided that emotion?
Speaker 1: Dane Gaguy should go down as one of Queensland's great
Speaker 1: Origin players.
Speaker 2: Given the fact too. Wally Lewis medals from the wing.
Speaker 1: Kirk Cable's another one, and I sat on the show
Speaker 1: last night, the old saying take an old dog for
Speaker 1: the hard road.
Speaker 2: He's the evidence of that.
Speaker 3: I thought it was a good performance. I think there
Speaker 3: was a couple of moments in that game. There's a
Speaker 3: lot of talk around the penalties, but I think the
Speaker 3: execution of New South Wales, particularly early in the game
Speaker 3: helped Queensland. Yeah, there was adalso penalties or whatever, but
Speaker 3: Leui kicked the ball out in the full, Nathan clearly
Speaker 3: had an attacking set through the ball behind paying Hess
Speaker 3: there was an error. So there was a couple of
Speaker 3: things that actually helped Queensland out a lot. And then
Speaker 3: on the flip side in that second half, I thought
Speaker 3: the New South Wales attack was very threatening to Queensland.
Speaker 3: As a Queensland supporter, I thought they were going to score.
Speaker 3: I thought New South Wales were coming moving left with
Speaker 3: the trail, moving right with Stephen Kricht. They just looked
Speaker 3: like in that second half they were going to crack.
Speaker 3: But I think the one thing that helped Queensland was
Speaker 3: I thought Harry Grant was horrific early on. Months's running
Speaker 3: game was direct, did and round the ball, ponger supported
Speaker 3: through the middle. So in game three, trying to predict
Speaker 3: what happens the edge attack of New South Wales looks good.
Speaker 3: The running game of Queensland. Spine is a truth.
Speaker 2: You mentioned before and we talked about.
Speaker 1: You know, I spoke before about Gaguy Boon one of
Speaker 1: the great origin players.
Speaker 2: You know what point with you?
Speaker 1: Three tries again ran for over two hundred meters every
Speaker 1: time he plays here, over two hundred meters. He always impacts.
Speaker 1: Looking at some of the best origin wingers ever. You
Speaker 1: know Willie Kahn, Michael Hancock, Darius Boy, Chicka Fergus and
Speaker 1: Wendell Sailor Eric Gross like Kiri, you know where does
Speaker 1: I mean is to number one?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think, well, current players are still doing what
Speaker 3: they're doing. It's hard to put them collivate above anyone else, right,
Speaker 3: But I will tell you this. We have through the
Speaker 3: history of our game and currently some super athletic wingers
Speaker 3: they elevate themselves with a corner posts and put the
Speaker 3: ball down. But I don't think there's a body shape
Speaker 3: with Brian to Or that's delivered the way that he's delivered. Like,
Speaker 3: he doesn't elevate himself out around the corner posts. He
Speaker 3: would just ram his body into you in the corner
Speaker 3: of the field and say tackle me if you can.
Speaker 3: And he normally gets there and he is like, go
Speaker 3: watch what he did the early parts. He's smart. To
Speaker 3: He realized that the defense of Queensland. We're probably going
Speaker 3: to try and lift him up and take him back.
Speaker 3: He was running head first and towards the ground, just
Speaker 3: doing the right thing for the team to get that
Speaker 3: quick play of the ball and set someone else on.
Speaker 2: He's a great player. Diets to disgrace.
Speaker 3: Twenty Did you think New South Wales is going to score?
Speaker 1: No, he didn't know, And I can use my sons
Speaker 1: as evans. We didn't deserve to win and so often
Speaker 1: coops the gods of rugby league, that's what they do.
Speaker 1: But the bottom line is we just didn't deserve to
Speaker 1: win game.
Speaker 3: He's a little bit of the footy IQ of what
Speaker 3: makes Karen Monster smart. Go back and look in that
Speaker 3: second half, clear who's running that play. He was passing
Speaker 3: our back to Leui or Edwards. Months would fly up
Speaker 3: out of the line and try and shut that down
Speaker 3: because he knew he was under threat. This time with
Speaker 3: a game of the line, he realized that paint hass
Speaker 3: was an opportunity to catch the football on the first layer.
Speaker 3: Clearly plays to him. Instead of Months have flying out
Speaker 3: the line, he sat there and hit the ball over
Speaker 3: the top and dislodged it. So game awareness and the
Speaker 3: biggest moment for months to stood up on Monster.
Speaker 1: It's interesting when that ability to run the football or
Speaker 1: you know, being couraged to run the football at the time,
Speaker 1: like for months, to have the have the and this
Speaker 1: is going to sound odd, but have the discipline to
Speaker 1: continue to play simple. And I'd love to know a
Speaker 1: stat with Munster how many tries are scored off his
Speaker 1: play the ball or how many tries are scored off
Speaker 1: he's offload. I know the Cape will try. I think
Speaker 1: come from a monster ran the ball, engage to three.
Speaker 2: Guys offloaded out the back.
Speaker 1: It's just because when he runs with football he just
Speaker 1: attracts so many defenders.
Speaker 3: Fifteen runs of the footing most of any Queensland player
Speaker 3: and we highlight that. But I thought he kicked the
Speaker 3: ball early and just really set the time for Queensland
Speaker 3: the way that they had to do things. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I thought it was a good performance.
Speaker 2: Kicking early that. Yeah, you blokes in the last fifteen.
Speaker 1: Years, it's an origin player that's been your staple when
Speaker 1: the game's in the balance or no one can quite
Speaker 1: you know, take superiority. So often see you blokes just
Speaker 1: pop out, you know with yourself and the camera.
Speaker 2: On the left foot foot kick J two. It was monster.
Speaker 1: The other night it was eight six. You blokes, but
Speaker 1: a lot both sides coming up with a lot of errors.
Speaker 1: Someone's trying to find rhythm. You blokes, go kick early,
Speaker 1: big kick, Chase put pressure on New South Wales and
Speaker 1: the pressure loves to Zach Lomax given the arrow of
Speaker 1: the elbow and it goes up to toss it fourteen six.
Speaker 1: Now I know it's only an eight point split, but
Speaker 1: in those conditions in Origin, that just squw It puts
Speaker 1: a little bit more pressure.
Speaker 3: I always thought to explain the Origin play. If you
Speaker 3: were to defending your goal line for two, three, four
Speaker 3: sets in a row and you stop the opposition from scoring.
Speaker 3: I always thought kicking, if you get good momentum and
Speaker 3: tackle three or four, that next set is almost like
Speaker 3: a sign of the opposition you tried your best, but
Speaker 3: we're coming again, and it's almost they have to get
Speaker 3: the carry out of their own end. Isolate the fullback,
Speaker 3: ragged all the fullback and you actually start changing momentum.
Speaker 3: So Cameron used to do it all the time because
Speaker 3: at dummy half you're the first touch, everyone's on side.
Speaker 3: It was easier to do it from that position, because
Speaker 3: if you went to the half, it's a pass. The
Speaker 3: fullback reads it sometimes. But that's why it's an origin play,
Speaker 3: because you're actually forcing the opposition to do things I
Speaker 3: don't want to do.
Speaker 1: I hear you like certain terminology sometimes and when you southway,
Speaker 1: I've got a bit of an ascendency.
Speaker 2: We're going at you.
Speaker 1: You guys use the term absorb pressure, not so much
Speaker 1: repel it, but absorb the pressure then CounterPunch your here
Speaker 1: that all the time.
Speaker 3: So if the team's got attacking possession on the goal
Speaker 3: line and you can absorb that pressure one, two, three sets,
Speaker 3: you watch the halves start going to option three, four
Speaker 3: and five. When you got them going to their third
Speaker 3: or fourth option, you know that you've got them rattled
Speaker 3: a little bit. So they might have started off with
Speaker 3: a sequence of players, but then this long pass or
Speaker 3: an early kick comes into play. You've got them rattled
Speaker 3: because your first two options aren't working. When you sense
Speaker 3: that it's time to change momentum and kick early.
Speaker 2: We've spoken monster before.
Speaker 1: I think when we talk greater storage and players and
Speaker 1: you know, removing let's remove state bias here, I think
Speaker 1: he is he's got to be in the discussion.
Speaker 3: You're Monster in your top ten Origin players of all time?
Speaker 2: Absolutely I do. Yep, Well, yeah, you have coops.
Speaker 1: Have a look at his record, right, just have Luke
Speaker 1: Monster's record from his debut where he got a man
Speaker 1: at the match.
Speaker 2: There's been very few Origin.
Speaker 1: Games where he hasn't stood up and he has been
Speaker 1: the guy oftentimes in Queensland state of origin sites that
Speaker 1: haven't been like as strong as I mean that that
Speaker 1: team that the won so many series in a row,
Speaker 1: like Munster came in on the back of that era, right,
Speaker 1: but then when he come into prominence as a senior player,
Speaker 1: those sides weren't as strong. But you know twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: the COVID years, you know that what he did in
Speaker 1: that series. Every single time Corneysland needs something or needs someone,
Speaker 1: most of the time it's Monster.
Speaker 3: He is the most influential Queensland player today.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: But I don't have him in my top ten.
Speaker 1: Right, Let's make some enemies, let's go, right, it gives
Speaker 1: your top ten in no particular.
Speaker 3: I just sort of went, you know, who were the
Speaker 3: best players that I think for New South Wales and Queensland.
Speaker 3: For New South Wales I've just got Fitler, Badera's Daily
Speaker 3: and John's. Okay, thanks, So those for me, these four
Speaker 3: for me are the ones that have Captain lad influenced outcomes.
Speaker 3: The are the ones I think about. But I will
Speaker 3: say in terms of Queensland, I've got by society, I've
Speaker 3: just got more Queenland players that have influenced so Lewis
Speaker 3: Alpha mal like. I think from those days they were
Speaker 3: the most influential and then from the time that I play.
Speaker 3: I don't think you can separate lockey Smith versus English.
Speaker 3: I couldn't leave out any of those.
Speaker 1: It's it is, it's really hard when you sit there
Speaker 1: and go with I'll give you some of the ones
Speaker 1: I've left. I've left g I out, Yeah, I couldn't
Speaker 1: couldn't put him in. I've left Brett Kenny out. I've
Speaker 1: left Darren Lockyer out, June Miles, Glenn Lass.
Speaker 3: You've left Lockeye out.
Speaker 2: Yes, so some he make.
Speaker 1: And I've left out Laza and I've left I left
Speaker 1: out Steve Mordon.
Speaker 2: I know you're looking go you know I Steve.
Speaker 1: Morton, but I'll talk about him in the second we're
Speaker 1: discuss But I've gone Wally given Andrew John's, Cameron Smith,
Speaker 1: Billy Slater, Jonathan Thurston, all those sides in your order,
Speaker 1: No lord, but I mean this is the thing to
Speaker 1: leave our guys like Lockie and June, Miles, Brett Canning
Speaker 1: and so on.
Speaker 2: It's because that era, that one, that that side that.
Speaker 1: Came through and just completely dominated our origin where arguably
Speaker 1: the greatest Origin run of all time.
Speaker 2: And so where have I gone?
Speaker 1: I've gone to Thurston, So Wally, Joey, Cameron, Billy Thurston,
Speaker 1: Laurie Day, Brady Clyde, Malmaninger, Alan Langer, Cameron Munster.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hard to argue with any of those, like Clyde
Speaker 3: for me being a young Queensland like, he was such
Speaker 3: a good player, like so good he revolutionized the.
Speaker 2: Way he changed, He changed the game.
Speaker 1: How third he's played because thirteen's coop used to be
Speaker 1: clever short side players like Ray Price, incredibly tough.
Speaker 2: But underrated as playmaker. You know, guys like.
Speaker 1: But what they used to call it the thirteen in
Speaker 1: the English game was the loose forward.
Speaker 2: He was like a second five eighth.
Speaker 1: Clyde, come along mate, you knock the ball down the field,
Speaker 1: He get back and take play too.
Speaker 3: Going through the list, and so it is not the
Speaker 3: best player, but I so wanted to put Arthur beats
Speaker 3: it in there just because of without Arthur like origin
Speaker 3: isn't not what it is. What he did in that
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty game and what he's done for queens over passed.
Speaker 3: So he's almost the pioneer for Queensland. If I was
Speaker 3: to say who the pioneer for New South Wales is
Speaker 3: or was, who's that?
Speaker 2: Well, it's tempted. You look at guys like you Tomy
Speaker 2: donic As in the early years.
Speaker 1: But the one who taught, who was a big part
Speaker 1: of teaching New South Wales to win and what it
Speaker 1: took to win.
Speaker 2: Steve Mortimer.
Speaker 1: He was the captain in eighty five and and the
Speaker 1: players just said he was outstanding. Terry Fernley was the coach,
Speaker 1: but on minus N Terry Fernley gave a lot of
Speaker 1: the power to Turvy and Turvy just he rallied the
Speaker 1: troops and he got it done.
Speaker 2: Who was probably arguably.
Speaker 1: Of any New South Wales the best as far as
Speaker 1: the series concerned. The best captain is knocking a series
Speaker 1: because he just turned it around so much for us.
Speaker 1: You know, we were just under the pump every single
Speaker 1: you know, to sit us New South Walshman those early
Speaker 1: years and just you know, you bloke's just given it
Speaker 1: to us and to us to an extent, Coop, the
Speaker 1: old thing where they say New South Wales doesn't get
Speaker 1: orangin back then, we didn't, you know, the first ever
Speaker 1: origin game.
Speaker 2: I heard this one the other day was when, of.
Speaker 1: Course, Coop, you know the history where if you're a
Speaker 1: Coeensland and you come down and play for Sydney club.
Speaker 1: I was explaining this to someone the other day and
Speaker 1: sort of going the essence of white to coins Land
Speaker 1: hate New South Wales more than the other way around.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe that's not true, but and I explained
Speaker 1: it was that the really big Richard said Sydney clubs
Speaker 1: would sign the best Queensland players and as a result
Speaker 1: they had to play for New South Wales. And when
Speaker 1: that first game was announced for Queensland in all those
Speaker 1: Queensland players to return to Queensland and have those great
Speaker 1: players like Arthur return, they reckon it was just like
Speaker 1: the excitement amongst the things and like the Queensland side
Speaker 1: they said before the game and the build up were
Speaker 1: just right on the bit New South Wales night for
Speaker 1: the game.
Speaker 2: We're having a beer. They were drinking.
Speaker 1: It wasn't until they turned up to play that game
Speaker 1: at land Park they reckoned. They walked in and Tommy
Speaker 1: said to the term in the dressing room, hellmatee the ambushes,
Speaker 1: they said when they walked into land Park they were
Speaker 1: just getting abused and screamed up.
Speaker 2: He said, mate, this is this is totally well.
Speaker 3: That inspired a generation of Queensland. Is what Arthur did
Speaker 3: that side because you know Kevy tells in st about
Speaker 3: how him and his brothers fought cut through the fence
Speaker 3: wanted to be there. So multiply that by multiple Queensland people.
Speaker 3: That is a is a part of the history of
Speaker 3: why Queensland have a feeling and love and connection. When
Speaker 3: it comes to Origentie.
Speaker 2: Brod a Coop's club Land, what are you a bit
Speaker 2: of trained sporting? What are you go for me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've given this guy a huge wrap over the
Speaker 3: course of the air as a cartier. The Knights versus Dolphins,
Speaker 3: it was twenty or with about fifteen minutes to go
Speaker 3: and neither side got a field goal in Yes, the
Speaker 3: Knights won it. They got lucky. In my opinion, but
Speaker 3: this is a cartel with eight and a half minutes ago.
Speaker 3: He is in perfect position in a tight contest, but
Speaker 3: decides to run the football. They try and go for
Speaker 3: the try, bounces back in here and they turn over possession.
Speaker 3: He should have taken a shot. Then there's no doubt
Speaker 3: he's development. He should have taken it. A couple of
Speaker 3: minutes later, six minutes ago, it's a bit further out.
Speaker 3: He's on the left hand side, the right side for
Speaker 3: the right foot. It swings to the other side and
Speaker 3: kicks a ball. There's an opportunity to win the game
Speaker 3: for the Dolphins. Then the Newcastle Knights they get down
Speaker 3: to the other end and there's about a minute to
Speaker 3: go that Jones scores to try to win it. But
Speaker 3: look here, Koger tackled Klein on the left hand side,
Speaker 3: Crosslin comes from other side. Didn't even think about the
Speaker 3: field goal. That's about a minute to go on the clock.
Speaker 3: So I think there's a couple of things that both
Speaker 3: these teams really need to look at and understand that
Speaker 3: when you get inside ten in a close game and
Speaker 3: you can go for the tribe, but you've got to
Speaker 3: set up and have a crack. Particularly inside five minutes,
Speaker 3: it's your first thought.
Speaker 1: At what point, Coop, when you played, was the time
Speaker 1: to go for it? Because let's imagine it's twenty all
Speaker 1: and it's eleven minutes to go. Is that the do
Speaker 1: you get for the field goal? Then what is the point?
Speaker 3: Ten minutes was always my mark, But around that ten
Speaker 3: minute mark, being a right footer, I always shifted the ball,
Speaker 3: tried to shift it to the left hand side, so
Speaker 3: if I had the chance, I could just set back
Speaker 3: one in and take the shot, whereas if you go
Speaker 3: to the right it's a more difficult approach. But then
Speaker 3: inside five minutes less is more one to one to
Speaker 3: kick the ball. And the other thing too, is the
Speaker 3: time that you want to kick in is get your
Speaker 3: best play the ball with the fastest speed to take
Speaker 3: that run. It was Billy at the Storm, was Boy
Speaker 3: Corner at the Roosters, So you need to put some
Speaker 3: thought into it. But the simple fact is not one
Speaker 3: person in that field thought about it and didn't.
Speaker 2: Take the shot completely like a composure, What do you
Speaker 2: got for me?
Speaker 1: Well, mine is around great try scorers, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to talk about three guys here. Alice Johnson of course
Speaker 1: is on the cusp of breaking Kenny Irvines try scoring records.
Speaker 1: You need seven more. This will be one of the
Speaker 1: biggest storylines going into the back end of the year
Speaker 1: as we head in the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I thought myself, do you think he gets there? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: I think he gets it. Cody, Yeah, Cody's back. Cody
Speaker 1: is vital to that. Apparently he's back this week.
Speaker 3: If he does get it, the game needs to make
Speaker 3: it a big milestone. I don't know if you open
Speaker 3: up the stadium or whatever you do, but it needs
Speaker 3: to be a memorable moment.
Speaker 2: It'll be massive.
Speaker 1: It'd be great to see, you know, as far as
Speaker 1: security consider, they might like you see the af L
Speaker 1: when Plaguerker did it and Buddy Franklin, they just flood.
Speaker 2: It'd be great to see something.
Speaker 1: But when he breaks out record, he's going to join
Speaker 1: a really exclusive club people like Ken Irvine.
Speaker 2: But I want to talk about the two greatest tri
Speaker 2: scorers of all time.
Speaker 1: Phil called Brian Bevan and the other fellow, which I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure very few people have heard about unless you're
Speaker 1: a some Helen supporter Phela called Tom van Vollenhoven. Right now,
Speaker 1: so let's talk about this firstly Brian Bevan. Now you know,
Speaker 1: so we're talking about the record here Kenny Irvins called
Speaker 1: two hundred and twelve tries in two hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: six games.
Speaker 3: Alex Cahner twelve tries yep, two thirty six games.
Speaker 1: Now I want to talk about Brian Bevan for said coops,
Speaker 1: because he played.
Speaker 2: He started.
Speaker 1: He was born in Sydney and he played with your
Speaker 1: old side, the Roosters. Played eight games for the Roosters
Speaker 1: Brian Bevan and never scored a try.
Speaker 2: From there, he joined he joined the military, joined the navy.
Speaker 1: And before he left to join the Navy, he said
Speaker 1: to the secretary of the of the Roosters. He said,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about jumping off the boat and trying my
Speaker 1: luck in the English game. And he said, well that
Speaker 1: sounds pretty good. Let me write your letter of recommendation.
Speaker 2: So wrote it.
Speaker 1: He spent his time in the navy, got off and
Speaker 1: he went to Leeds and he said letter of recommendation
Speaker 1: on it was Brian Bevan.
Speaker 2: I'd love to have a trial. They looked at him.
Speaker 2: Now got to understand about Brian Bevan.
Speaker 1: When Brian Bevan was twenty, he looked fifty he is
Speaker 1: the most unlikely looking superstar sports that you'll ever see.
Speaker 2: So LEDs looked at him, said not interested. When I
Speaker 2: went to the hunt to hundred one hundred.
Speaker 1: Hawks, they said, well if luds they went not interested leads,
Speaker 1: not just we're not interested. Last trial that ice he
Speaker 1: went to the Warrington to Warrington. They weren't called the
Speaker 1: Warrington Wolves. In Warrington, see can I get a trial?
Speaker 1: And they said, what the hell?
Speaker 2: Give him a guar.
Speaker 1: He played six hundred and twenty games for Warrington and
Speaker 1: he scored seven hundred and forty tries. Now if you
Speaker 1: go to Warrington, what seven hundred and forty tries in
Speaker 1: six hundred and twenty games? When you when you go
Speaker 1: to Warrington, you know, if you go there at the
Speaker 1: end of the year with the ashes design and you
Speaker 1: call through, you've got to go through Warrington if you're
Speaker 1: a regular person. And they got the statue of Brian
Speaker 1: Bevan there, so from a bloke who you know, no
Speaker 1: tries in eight games, ends up going to England and
Speaker 1: so good seven hundred and forty tries and they built
Speaker 1: a statue for him.
Speaker 3: And what era was Brian Bevan.
Speaker 1: In Bevan I think it was yeah, forties into the
Speaker 1: fifties and the sixties.
Speaker 3: Into the fifties. So when you went and watched Brian
Speaker 3: Bevan live ground.
Speaker 1: He could play. Yeah, maybe he could play. I said,
Speaker 1: young fellow, you've got a future now signed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he did.
Speaker 1: Now the second one right, And I hope we're I'm
Speaker 1: boring people this, but regul league history is important. Tom
Speaker 1: van Vollenhoven, Now this guy was the South African rugby
Speaker 1: union star and I want to get into the politics
Speaker 1: on this episode of White A lot of South African
Speaker 1: players went and played English rugby league, but he signed.
Speaker 1: He swapped to rugby league and he signed with St.
Speaker 1: Helen's in nine fifty seven. He debuted against Leeds and
Speaker 1: apparently Hon debut bombed numerous tries and they're like, what
Speaker 1: have we signed here? But we go on to play
Speaker 1: four hundred and nine games, three hundred and ninety two tries.
Speaker 1: Incredible if you go back in rugby league history during
Speaker 1: that era. He had guys even before that called Harry
Speaker 1: Bath who was legend at Saint George. I do I
Speaker 1: think Harry Barth played about five hundred played out here,
Speaker 1: then went to England played about five hundred and something games.
Speaker 3: Even Johnston's record like was phenomenal. It is what he's
Speaker 3: doing at the moment, and for him to be able
Speaker 3: to get those tries be the number one on the list,
Speaker 3: like every record is there to be broken, but jeez,
Speaker 3: it's going to be hard to see that be broken
Speaker 3: again because he potentially has another couple of years.
Speaker 2: Well, keep me and things that.
Speaker 1: This is a really difficult leerate to play in because
Speaker 1: of number one, really organized defense, the tape videotape analysis,
Speaker 1: you know sitting there. I mean when these guys played
Speaker 1: a lot of times, their opponents the first time they
Speaker 1: would have ever seen anything of them was in their
Speaker 1: standing opposite them, where these days in rugby league there
Speaker 1: are very few secrets and be able to score the
Speaker 1: tries like aj has has been truly phenomenal.
Speaker 3: I'm going to give you some homework for a next show,
Speaker 3: Alex Johnson, John six tries work out how many Codie
Speaker 3: Walker has been involved in.
Speaker 2: She's going to go through some tape.
Speaker 3: There, just I want you to do that.
Speaker 2: A romantic week Coops. Listen, we're going to talk.
Speaker 1: About the Panthers and the Broncos potentially going on a run.
Speaker 2: We've run out of Triumph, talking about that next week.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmmmmmm