1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Coops State of Origin heading for a decider, which is 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: always a huge game. 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 2: Have you you played numerous deciders couple? Yeah, it's difficult. 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 3: Coming New South Wales. Yeah it is. It's the it's 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 3: obviously the pinnacle and the biggest games of the year, 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 3: and there's this sort of strange thing before kickoff you're 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 3: supremely confident, but then fear and terror kicks in because 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 3: it is the biggest game of the year and can 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 3: you do it? It's the one game that you'd love 10 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 3: to be a part of. But then the other part 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 3: of it is you just don't want to be the 12 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 3: one that stuffs it up to. 13 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: Coops, and that is that is such a natural emotion. 14 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: It's the primary emotion going into big games. Is that 15 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: nervousness and total fear that you're going to be the bloke. 16 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: And home ground advantage plays a part. Now it's not everything, 17 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 3: but I just remember a couple of origin deciders a 18 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 3: sun call and it became a factor early on if 19 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 3: you started well. So for New South Wales need to 20 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 3: start well and that crowd will bring them home. 21 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: Just on on game two we'll have our saying it. 22 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: The big talk is DC going in the game and 23 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 1: whether it was going to be work or not. Given 24 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: the side he picked, it was always going to be 25 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: in hindsight. Clearly did going to congratulate Billy for that. 26 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: Munster elevating Munster captain was a master stroke and didn't 27 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 1: simplify their attack. 28 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 3: Best players, what do you think? Do you think Monster 29 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 3: was the best player on the ground. 30 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: I thought Monster was the best player short half head 31 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: over Kirk Capewell, and I thought Payne Hasse and were 32 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: pretty pretty special. 33 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 3: I had Ruben Connor as my own man for Queensland. 34 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 3: I thought his performance was outstanding, just defensively. I haven't 35 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 3: seen too many New South Wales players be put on 36 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 3: their backside through the work of Monster. Outstanding. I think 37 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 3: Tyler deserves a big rugby. He did everything he could 38 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 3: for New South Wales. But in terms of Monster in 39 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: the elevation the No DC, there was two parts to it. 40 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 3: I think Queensland's halves were and spined to be fair, 41 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: were way more direct. Yes, they were arrows straight in 42 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: the way they attacked it. And Munster's sort of influence 43 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 3: on the team wasn't you know. It's the way that 44 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 3: he communicated. It was more that he just knew the 45 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 3: responsibility he had and he delivered with that. Like go 46 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 3: back and watch when he walked out in the field. 47 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,399 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. He is a character. Everyone loves him, 48 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 3: but he was not going to let down his state 49 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 3: the way that he was dialed in and that simple 50 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 3: promotion to captain is that sole reason that he was 51 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 3: going to lead from the front. 52 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 1: Coop, I've never seen him so stonefaced and made one 53 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: point he sort of like almost shook with excitement, and 54 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: that would have been adrenaline and evidence of that Coop 55 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: was his first kick, like when he was adrenalized and 56 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: he was excited about the contest seven tackle set which 57 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: I thought New South Wales. 58 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: Went down and scored from memory. 59 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 1: But that's just as you know, Coop, it can be 60 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: a difficult thing going in a really big game when 61 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,399 Speaker 1: you're playing in the harves and you've got to see 62 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: the side around the park and you got to make 63 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: smart decisions, you got to play with some new when 64 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: there's adrenaline pumping through you. 65 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 3: I know caramansa well and played a lot of forty 66 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 3: with him. I've never seen him like that. Before we 67 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 3: go and watching it, I just thought, oh my goodness, 68 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 3: this is the biggest moment his career up to that point. 69 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 3: You could tell how dialed in he was. He was 70 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 3: not going to take a backwards step and he's going 71 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 3: to lead from the front. And there was a couple 72 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: of moments from him, like running the football, a couple 73 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 3: of early kicks that really got the job done. So 74 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 3: I just I really marveled at. 75 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: What he did throughout Origin history just thinking about it. 76 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: Think like Queensland, some of their greatest players have been 77 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: quite unheralded, if you know what I mean, that have 78 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: not been. 79 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: So much surprise selections. 80 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: But you look out on paper and you go, oh yeah, 81 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: you know, like Gary Larson, if I made sense back there, 82 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: I mean, Billy Moore, what Billy you provided that emotion? 83 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: Dane Gaguy should go down as one of Queensland's great 84 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: Origin players. 85 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: Given the fact too. Wally Lewis medals from the wing. 86 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: Kirk Cable's another one, and I sat on the show 87 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: last night, the old saying take an old dog for 88 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: the hard road. 89 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: He's the evidence of that. 90 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 3: I thought it was a good performance. I think there 91 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 3: was a couple of moments in that game. There's a 92 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 3: lot of talk around the penalties, but I think the 93 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 3: execution of New South Wales, particularly early in the game 94 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: helped Queensland. Yeah, there was adalso penalties or whatever, but 95 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 3: Leui kicked the ball out in the full, Nathan clearly 96 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 3: had an attacking set through the ball behind paying Hess 97 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 3: there was an error. So there was a couple of 98 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 3: things that actually helped Queensland out a lot. And then 99 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,119 Speaker 3: on the flip side in that second half, I thought 100 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: the New South Wales attack was very threatening to Queensland. 101 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 3: As a Queensland supporter, I thought they were going to score. 102 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: I thought New South Wales were coming moving left with 103 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 3: the trail, moving right with Stephen Kricht. They just looked 104 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 3: like in that second half they were going to crack. 105 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 3: But I think the one thing that helped Queensland was 106 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 3: I thought Harry Grant was horrific early on. Months's running 107 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: game was direct, did and round the ball, ponger supported 108 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: through the middle. So in game three, trying to predict 109 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: what happens the edge attack of New South Wales looks good. 110 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: The running game of Queensland. Spine is a truth. 111 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 2: You mentioned before and we talked about. 112 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: You know, I spoke before about Gaguy Boon one of 113 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: the great origin players. 114 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: You know what point with you? 115 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: Three tries again ran for over two hundred meters every 116 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: time he plays here, over two hundred meters. He always impacts. 117 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: Looking at some of the best origin wingers ever. You 118 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: know Willie Kahn, Michael Hancock, Darius Boy, Chicka Fergus and 119 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: Wendell Sailor Eric Gross like Kiri, you know where does 120 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: I mean is to number one? 121 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think, well, current players are still doing what 122 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 3: they're doing. It's hard to put them collivate above anyone else, right, 123 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 3: But I will tell you this. We have through the 124 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 3: history of our game and currently some super athletic wingers 125 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 3: they elevate themselves with a corner posts and put the 126 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 3: ball down. But I don't think there's a body shape 127 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 3: with Brian to Or that's delivered the way that he's delivered. Like, 128 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 3: he doesn't elevate himself out around the corner posts. He 129 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 3: would just ram his body into you in the corner 130 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 3: of the field and say tackle me if you can. 131 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 3: And he normally gets there and he is like, go 132 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 3: watch what he did the early parts. He's smart. To 133 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 3: He realized that the defense of Queensland. We're probably going 134 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 3: to try and lift him up and take him back. 135 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 3: He was running head first and towards the ground, just 136 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 3: doing the right thing for the team to get that 137 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 3: quick play of the ball and set someone else on. 138 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: He's a great player. Diets to disgrace. 139 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 3: Twenty Did you think New South Wales is going to score? 140 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: No, he didn't know, And I can use my sons 141 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: as evans. We didn't deserve to win and so often 142 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: coops the gods of rugby league, that's what they do. 143 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: But the bottom line is we just didn't deserve to 144 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: win game. 145 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 3: He's a little bit of the footy IQ of what 146 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: makes Karen Monster smart. Go back and look in that 147 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 3: second half, clear who's running that play. He was passing 148 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 3: our back to Leui or Edwards. Months would fly up 149 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 3: out of the line and try and shut that down 150 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: because he knew he was under threat. This time with 151 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: a game of the line, he realized that paint hass 152 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 3: was an opportunity to catch the football on the first layer. 153 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: Clearly plays to him. Instead of Months have flying out 154 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: the line, he sat there and hit the ball over 155 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 3: the top and dislodged it. So game awareness and the 156 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 3: biggest moment for months to stood up on Monster. 157 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: It's interesting when that ability to run the football or 158 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: you know, being couraged to run the football at the time, 159 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: like for months, to have the have the and this 160 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: is going to sound odd, but have the discipline to 161 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: continue to play simple. And I'd love to know a 162 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: stat with Munster how many tries are scored off his 163 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: play the ball or how many tries are scored off 164 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: he's offload. I know the Cape will try. I think 165 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: come from a monster ran the ball, engage to three. 166 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: Guys offloaded out the back. 167 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: It's just because when he runs with football he just 168 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: attracts so many defenders. 169 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 3: Fifteen runs of the footing most of any Queensland player 170 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 3: and we highlight that. But I thought he kicked the 171 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 3: ball early and just really set the time for Queensland 172 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: the way that they had to do things. So yeah, 173 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 3: I thought it was a good performance. 174 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: Kicking early that. Yeah, you blokes in the last fifteen. 175 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: Years, it's an origin player that's been your staple when 176 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: the game's in the balance or no one can quite 177 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: you know, take superiority. So often see you blokes just 178 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: pop out, you know with yourself and the camera. 179 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: On the left foot foot kick J two. It was monster. 180 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: The other night it was eight six. You blokes, but 181 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: a lot both sides coming up with a lot of errors. 182 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: Someone's trying to find rhythm. You blokes, go kick early, 183 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: big kick, Chase put pressure on New South Wales and 184 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: the pressure loves to Zach Lomax given the arrow of 185 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: the elbow and it goes up to toss it fourteen six. 186 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: Now I know it's only an eight point split, but 187 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: in those conditions in Origin, that just squw It puts 188 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: a little bit more pressure. 189 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 3: I always thought to explain the Origin play. If you 190 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 3: were to defending your goal line for two, three, four 191 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 3: sets in a row and you stop the opposition from scoring. 192 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 3: I always thought kicking, if you get good momentum and 193 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 3: tackle three or four, that next set is almost like 194 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 3: a sign of the opposition you tried your best, but 195 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 3: we're coming again, and it's almost they have to get 196 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: the carry out of their own end. Isolate the fullback, 197 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 3: ragged all the fullback and you actually start changing momentum. 198 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 3: So Cameron used to do it all the time because 199 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 3: at dummy half you're the first touch, everyone's on side. 200 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 3: It was easier to do it from that position, because 201 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 3: if you went to the half, it's a pass. The 202 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 3: fullback reads it sometimes. But that's why it's an origin play, 203 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 3: because you're actually forcing the opposition to do things I 204 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 3: don't want to do. 205 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: I hear you like certain terminology sometimes and when you southway, 206 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,239 Speaker 1: I've got a bit of an ascendency. 207 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: We're going at you. 208 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: You guys use the term absorb pressure, not so much 209 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: repel it, but absorb the pressure then CounterPunch your here 210 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: that all the time. 211 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 3: So if the team's got attacking possession on the goal 212 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 3: line and you can absorb that pressure one, two, three sets, 213 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 3: you watch the halves start going to option three, four 214 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 3: and five. When you got them going to their third 215 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 3: or fourth option, you know that you've got them rattled 216 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 3: a little bit. So they might have started off with 217 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 3: a sequence of players, but then this long pass or 218 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 3: an early kick comes into play. You've got them rattled 219 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: because your first two options aren't working. When you sense 220 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 3: that it's time to change momentum and kick early. 221 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 2: We've spoken monster before. 222 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: I think when we talk greater storage and players and 223 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: you know, removing let's remove state bias here, I think 224 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: he is he's got to be in the discussion. 225 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 3: You're Monster in your top ten Origin players of all time? 226 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 2: Absolutely I do. Yep, Well, yeah, you have coops. 227 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: Have a look at his record, right, just have Luke 228 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: Monster's record from his debut where he got a man 229 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: at the match. 230 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: There's been very few Origin. 231 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: Games where he hasn't stood up and he has been 232 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: the guy oftentimes in Queensland state of origin sites that 233 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 1: haven't been like as strong as I mean that that 234 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: team that the won so many series in a row, 235 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: like Munster came in on the back of that era, right, 236 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: but then when he come into prominence as a senior player, 237 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: those sides weren't as strong. But you know twenty twenty, 238 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: the COVID years, you know that what he did in 239 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: that series. Every single time Corneysland needs something or needs someone, 240 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: most of the time it's Monster. 241 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 3: He is the most influential Queensland player today. 242 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: Yep. 243 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: But I don't have him in my top ten. 244 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: Right, Let's make some enemies, let's go, right, it gives 245 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,479 Speaker 1: your top ten in no particular. 246 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 3: I just sort of went, you know, who were the 247 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 3: best players that I think for New South Wales and Queensland. 248 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 3: For New South Wales I've just got Fitler, Badera's Daily 249 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 3: and John's. Okay, thanks, So those for me, these four 250 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 3: for me are the ones that have Captain lad influenced outcomes. 251 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 3: The are the ones I think about. But I will 252 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 3: say in terms of Queensland, I've got by society, I've 253 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 3: just got more Queenland players that have influenced so Lewis 254 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 3: Alpha mal like. I think from those days they were 255 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 3: the most influential and then from the time that I play. 256 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 3: I don't think you can separate lockey Smith versus English. 257 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 3: I couldn't leave out any of those. 258 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: It's it is, it's really hard when you sit there 259 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: and go with I'll give you some of the ones 260 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: I've left. I've left g I out, Yeah, I couldn't 261 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: couldn't put him in. I've left Brett Kenny out. I've 262 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: left Darren Lockyer out, June Miles, Glenn Lass. 263 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 3: You've left Lockeye out. 264 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 2: Yes, so some he make. 265 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: And I've left out Laza and I've left I left 266 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: out Steve Mordon. 267 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 2: I know you're looking go you know I Steve. 268 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: Morton, but I'll talk about him in the second we're 269 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: discuss But I've gone Wally given Andrew John's, Cameron Smith, 270 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: Billy Slater, Jonathan Thurston, all those sides in your order, 271 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: No lord, but I mean this is the thing to 272 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: leave our guys like Lockie and June, Miles, Brett Canning 273 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: and so on. 274 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 2: It's because that era, that one, that that side that. 275 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: Came through and just completely dominated our origin where arguably 276 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: the greatest Origin run of all time. 277 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: And so where have I gone? 278 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: I've gone to Thurston, So Wally, Joey, Cameron, Billy Thurston, 279 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: Laurie Day, Brady Clyde, Malmaninger, Alan Langer, Cameron Munster. 280 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, hard to argue with any of those, like Clyde 281 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 3: for me being a young Queensland like, he was such 282 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 3: a good player, like so good he revolutionized the. 283 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: Way he changed, He changed the game. 284 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: How third he's played because thirteen's coop used to be 285 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: clever short side players like Ray Price, incredibly tough. 286 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: But underrated as playmaker. You know, guys like. 287 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: But what they used to call it the thirteen in 288 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: the English game was the loose forward. 289 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 2: He was like a second five eighth. 290 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: Clyde, come along mate, you knock the ball down the field, 291 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: He get back and take play too. 292 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 3: Going through the list, and so it is not the 293 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 3: best player, but I so wanted to put Arthur beats 294 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 3: it in there just because of without Arthur like origin 295 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 3: isn't not what it is. What he did in that 296 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 3: nineteen eighty game and what he's done for queens over passed. 297 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 3: So he's almost the pioneer for Queensland. If I was 298 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 3: to say who the pioneer for New South Wales is 299 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 3: or was, who's that? 300 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 2: Well, it's tempted. You look at guys like you Tomy 301 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: donic As in the early years. 302 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: But the one who taught, who was a big part 303 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: of teaching New South Wales to win and what it 304 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: took to win. 305 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: Steve Mortimer. 306 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: He was the captain in eighty five and and the 307 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: players just said he was outstanding. Terry Fernley was the coach, 308 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: but on minus N Terry Fernley gave a lot of 309 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: the power to Turvy and Turvy just he rallied the 310 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: troops and he got it done. 311 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: Who was probably arguably. 312 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: Of any New South Wales the best as far as 313 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: the series concerned. The best captain is knocking a series 314 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: because he just turned it around so much for us. 315 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: You know, we were just under the pump every single 316 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, to sit us New South Walshman those early 317 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: years and just you know, you bloke's just given it 318 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: to us and to us to an extent, Coop, the 319 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: old thing where they say New South Wales doesn't get 320 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: orangin back then, we didn't, you know, the first ever 321 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: origin game. 322 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: I heard this one the other day was when, of. 323 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: Course, Coop, you know the history where if you're a 324 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: Coeensland and you come down and play for Sydney club. 325 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: I was explaining this to someone the other day and 326 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: sort of going the essence of white to coins Land 327 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: hate New South Wales more than the other way around. 328 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: You know, maybe that's not true, but and I explained 329 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: it was that the really big Richard said Sydney clubs 330 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: would sign the best Queensland players and as a result 331 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: they had to play for New South Wales. And when 332 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: that first game was announced for Queensland in all those 333 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: Queensland players to return to Queensland and have those great 334 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: players like Arthur return, they reckon it was just like 335 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: the excitement amongst the things and like the Queensland side 336 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: they said before the game and the build up were 337 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: just right on the bit New South Wales night for 338 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: the game. 339 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 2: We're having a beer. They were drinking. 340 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: It wasn't until they turned up to play that game 341 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: at land Park they reckoned. They walked in and Tommy 342 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: said to the term in the dressing room, hellmatee the ambushes, 343 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: they said when they walked into land Park they were 344 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: just getting abused and screamed up. 345 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 2: He said, mate, this is this is totally well. 346 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 3: That inspired a generation of Queensland. Is what Arthur did 347 00:16:55,880 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 3: that side because you know Kevy tells in st about 348 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 3: how him and his brothers fought cut through the fence 349 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 3: wanted to be there. So multiply that by multiple Queensland people. 350 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 3: That is a is a part of the history of 351 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 3: why Queensland have a feeling and love and connection. When 352 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 3: it comes to Origentie. 353 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 2: Brod a Coop's club Land, what are you a bit 354 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: of trained sporting? What are you go for me? 355 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've given this guy a huge wrap over the 356 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 3: course of the air as a cartier. The Knights versus Dolphins, 357 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 3: it was twenty or with about fifteen minutes to go 358 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 3: and neither side got a field goal in Yes, the 359 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 3: Knights won it. They got lucky. In my opinion, but 360 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 3: this is a cartel with eight and a half minutes ago. 361 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 3: He is in perfect position in a tight contest, but 362 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 3: decides to run the football. They try and go for 363 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 3: the try, bounces back in here and they turn over possession. 364 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 3: He should have taken a shot. Then there's no doubt 365 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 3: he's development. He should have taken it. A couple of 366 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 3: minutes later, six minutes ago, it's a bit further out. 367 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 3: He's on the left hand side, the right side for 368 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 3: the right foot. It swings to the other side and 369 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 3: kicks a ball. There's an opportunity to win the game 370 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 3: for the Dolphins. Then the Newcastle Knights they get down 371 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 3: to the other end and there's about a minute to 372 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 3: go that Jones scores to try to win it. But 373 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 3: look here, Koger tackled Klein on the left hand side, 374 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 3: Crosslin comes from other side. Didn't even think about the 375 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 3: field goal. That's about a minute to go on the clock. 376 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 3: So I think there's a couple of things that both 377 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 3: these teams really need to look at and understand that 378 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 3: when you get inside ten in a close game and 379 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 3: you can go for the tribe, but you've got to 380 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 3: set up and have a crack. Particularly inside five minutes, 381 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 3: it's your first thought. 382 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: At what point, Coop, when you played, was the time 383 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: to go for it? Because let's imagine it's twenty all 384 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: and it's eleven minutes to go. Is that the do 385 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: you get for the field goal? Then what is the point? 386 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 3: Ten minutes was always my mark, But around that ten 387 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 3: minute mark, being a right footer, I always shifted the ball, 388 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,479 Speaker 3: tried to shift it to the left hand side, so 389 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 3: if I had the chance, I could just set back 390 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 3: one in and take the shot, whereas if you go 391 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 3: to the right it's a more difficult approach. But then 392 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 3: inside five minutes less is more one to one to 393 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 3: kick the ball. And the other thing too, is the 394 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 3: time that you want to kick in is get your 395 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 3: best play the ball with the fastest speed to take 396 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 3: that run. It was Billy at the Storm, was Boy 397 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 3: Corner at the Roosters, So you need to put some 398 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 3: thought into it. But the simple fact is not one 399 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 3: person in that field thought about it and didn't. 400 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 2: Take the shot completely like a composure, What do you 401 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 2: got for me? 402 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,719 Speaker 1: Well, mine is around great try scorers, and I'm going 403 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: to talk about three guys here. Alice Johnson of course 404 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: is on the cusp of breaking Kenny Irvines try scoring records. 405 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: You need seven more. This will be one of the 406 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: biggest storylines going into the back end of the year 407 00:19:59,359 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: as we head in the. 408 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I thought myself, do you think he gets there? Yeah? 409 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 2: I do. 410 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: I think he gets it. Cody, Yeah, Cody's back. Cody 411 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: is vital to that. Apparently he's back this week. 412 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 3: If he does get it, the game needs to make 413 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 3: it a big milestone. I don't know if you open 414 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 3: up the stadium or whatever you do, but it needs 415 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 3: to be a memorable moment. 416 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 2: It'll be massive. 417 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: It'd be great to see, you know, as far as 418 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: security consider, they might like you see the af L 419 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: when Plaguerker did it and Buddy Franklin, they just flood. 420 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 2: It'd be great to see something. 421 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: But when he breaks out record, he's going to join 422 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: a really exclusive club people like Ken Irvine. 423 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 2: But I want to talk about the two greatest tri 424 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 2: scorers of all time. 425 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: Phil called Brian Bevan and the other fellow, which I'm 426 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: pretty sure very few people have heard about unless you're 427 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: a some Helen supporter Phela called Tom van Vollenhoven. Right now, 428 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: so let's talk about this firstly Brian Bevan. Now you know, 429 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: so we're talking about the record here Kenny Irvins called 430 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: two hundred and twelve tries in two hundred and thirty 431 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: six games. 432 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 3: Alex Cahner twelve tries yep, two thirty six games. 433 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: Now I want to talk about Brian Bevan for said coops, 434 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:12,479 Speaker 1: because he played. 435 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 2: He started. 436 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: He was born in Sydney and he played with your 437 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: old side, the Roosters. Played eight games for the Roosters 438 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: Brian Bevan and never scored a try. 439 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,479 Speaker 2: From there, he joined he joined the military, joined the navy. 440 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: And before he left to join the Navy, he said 441 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: to the secretary of the of the Roosters. He said, 442 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about jumping off the boat and trying my 443 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: luck in the English game. And he said, well that 444 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: sounds pretty good. Let me write your letter of recommendation. 445 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 2: So wrote it. 446 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: He spent his time in the navy, got off and 447 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: he went to Leeds and he said letter of recommendation 448 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: on it was Brian Bevan. 449 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,479 Speaker 2: I'd love to have a trial. They looked at him. 450 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 2: Now got to understand about Brian Bevan. 451 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: When Brian Bevan was twenty, he looked fifty he is 452 00:21:55,040 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: the most unlikely looking superstar sports that you'll ever see. 453 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 2: So LEDs looked at him, said not interested. When I 454 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: went to the hunt to hundred one hundred. 455 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: Hawks, they said, well if luds they went not interested leads, 456 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: not just we're not interested. Last trial that ice he 457 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: went to the Warrington to Warrington. They weren't called the 458 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: Warrington Wolves. In Warrington, see can I get a trial? 459 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: And they said, what the hell? 460 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 2: Give him a guar. 461 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: He played six hundred and twenty games for Warrington and 462 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: he scored seven hundred and forty tries. Now if you 463 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: go to Warrington, what seven hundred and forty tries in 464 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: six hundred and twenty games? When you when you go 465 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: to Warrington, you know, if you go there at the 466 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: end of the year with the ashes design and you 467 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: call through, you've got to go through Warrington if you're 468 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: a regular person. And they got the statue of Brian 469 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: Bevan there, so from a bloke who you know, no 470 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,479 Speaker 1: tries in eight games, ends up going to England and 471 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: so good seven hundred and forty tries and they built 472 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: a statue for him. 473 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 3: And what era was Brian Bevan. 474 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: In Bevan I think it was yeah, forties into the 475 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: fifties and the sixties. 476 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 3: Into the fifties. So when you went and watched Brian 477 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 3: Bevan live ground. 478 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: He could play. Yeah, maybe he could play. I said, 479 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: young fellow, you've got a future now signed. 480 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he did. 481 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: Now the second one right, And I hope we're I'm 482 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: boring people this, but regul league history is important. Tom 483 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: van Vollenhoven, Now this guy was the South African rugby 484 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: union star and I want to get into the politics 485 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: on this episode of White A lot of South African 486 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: players went and played English rugby league, but he signed. 487 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: He swapped to rugby league and he signed with St. 488 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: Helen's in nine fifty seven. He debuted against Leeds and 489 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 1: apparently Hon debut bombed numerous tries and they're like, what 490 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: have we signed here? But we go on to play 491 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: four hundred and nine games, three hundred and ninety two tries. 492 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: Incredible if you go back in rugby league history during 493 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: that era. He had guys even before that called Harry 494 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: Bath who was legend at Saint George. I do I 495 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: think Harry Barth played about five hundred played out here, 496 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: then went to England played about five hundred and something games. 497 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 3: Even Johnston's record like was phenomenal. It is what he's 498 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 3: doing at the moment, and for him to be able 499 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 3: to get those tries be the number one on the list, 500 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 3: like every record is there to be broken, but jeez, 501 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 3: it's going to be hard to see that be broken 502 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 3: again because he potentially has another couple of years. 503 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 2: Well, keep me and things that. 504 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: This is a really difficult leerate to play in because 505 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: of number one, really organized defense, the tape videotape analysis, 506 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: you know sitting there. I mean when these guys played 507 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: a lot of times, their opponents the first time they 508 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: would have ever seen anything of them was in their 509 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: standing opposite them, where these days in rugby league there 510 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: are very few secrets and be able to score the 511 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: tries like aj has has been truly phenomenal. 512 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 3: I'm going to give you some homework for a next show, 513 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 3: Alex Johnson, John six tries work out how many Codie 514 00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 3: Walker has been involved in. 515 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 2: She's going to go through some tape. 516 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 3: There, just I want you to do that. 517 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 2: A romantic week Coops. Listen, we're going to talk. 518 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: About the Panthers and the Broncos potentially going on a run. 519 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 2: We've run out of Triumph, talking about that next week. 520 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 3: Mm hmmmmmmm