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Speaker 1: This is the Fitting and with Her with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 1: Let's look at this dangerous study that's been done. Experts

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Speaker 1: reveal the age someone is most likely to cheat. I

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Speaker 1: didn't realize there are particular periods throughout twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Huh thirty two? No, that happened to is that higher?

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Speaker 1: Can we loves yours? You're some thirty five ishually just

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Speaker 1: quickly when they come out and these statistics and give

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Speaker 1: these studies interesting to see too, that twenty percent of

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Speaker 1: men are likely to cheat or have cheated and thirteen

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Speaker 1: percent of women. I don't understand why they're not, even

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Speaker 1: because the man has to be cheating with the girl,

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Speaker 1: do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, who in the if they're in relationships,

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Speaker 4: who's the one that makes the decision to cheat? That's

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Speaker 4: what it is. It's not like it's sure cup, it's

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Speaker 4: not the hook cups.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like twenty percent of the guys have been

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Speaker 1: honest and thirteen percent of the girls have been honest.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because the men might be in or relationship, but

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Speaker 5: he's cheating with a woman who happens to be single,

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Speaker 5: so therefore she's not cheating and she does not make

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Speaker 5: the survey. I don't know, Okay, stats, I don't know,

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Speaker 5: and I actually thought it would be higher than that.

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Speaker 3: But is that do you think?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just reading off the sheet here.

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Speaker 1: How do you ever really know? Is the other thing about? What?

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Speaker 1: What percentage of people are cheating? The ages of danger?

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Speaker 1: Twenty nine, thirty nine, forty nine? It feels lazy, doesn't it?

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Speaker 1: Remeb We got to twenty and then we just went

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Speaker 1: every decade. There's got to be something in it?

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Speaker 5: Is it because you're approaching a big birthday and it's

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Speaker 5: some kind of Oh no, I'm heading into.

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Speaker 4: My midlife Christ, it's lately Bucks, not I've got to

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Speaker 4: do it, this is my last chance.

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Speaker 2: No, it must be a mouth Bucks.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, what doesn't happen on a Bucks?

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Speaker 5: Don't say that, because some people are heading into Bucks

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Speaker 5: things this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Brides.

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Speaker 5: There are brides heading into their partner having their Bucks

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Speaker 5: this weekend, and.

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Speaker 3: The boys are off to the They were at the

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Speaker 3: airport to fly to the Goldie this morning.

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Speaker 2: And what are.

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Speaker 1: We, bloody save fellers. What happens on the Bucks weekend

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Speaker 1: stays on the bun.

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Speaker 2: I mean, grow up cocktails and Dreams.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean to cocktails.

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Speaker 2: Massive? Did you get a free drink card? You would

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Speaker 2: have for sure.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I was there with them. This is Cooper.

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Speaker 5: No, I think Wendles Sailor hang on a minute of us.

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Speaker 3: So I'm just trying to pick a name that you

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Speaker 3: might know.

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Speaker 1: All right, you made it.

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Speaker 3: That was in a past line.

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Speaker 2: No way you're lining up at Cocktails and Dreams. If

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Speaker 2: you're with wend Or you're in the rope belfare.

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Speaker 1: I mean if we're talking about Hen's parties as well.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's not not a lot of innocence around

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Speaker 1: the Hen's party either. I mean, I was talking to

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Speaker 1: a friend the other day. They hired a gent to

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Speaker 1: turn up and be a life for is it life model?

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Speaker 6: God?

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Speaker 1: No life still life model, and they all drew him.

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Speaker 2: Easy money for him. He doesn't have to dance or anything,

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Speaker 2: does hell?

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Speaker 1: That was interesting. He stood still while they all sketched

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Speaker 1: him with their easels out, and then he.

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Speaker 3: Went with their easels out.

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Speaker 1: Then he went around and showed them his easel closer.

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Speaker 1: No they did, No, we didn't, didn't they.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to hear from anybody who's been the Dora,

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Speaker 3: the person being.

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Speaker 1: Drewn, someone's, someone's thrown by the topic here.

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Speaker 2: If you're the.

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Speaker 1: He's what I want to get to the age of

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Speaker 1: twenty nine, because they targeted on this and say this

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Speaker 1: is the most prime because there's two things that are

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Speaker 1: quite possibly going on in your world if you're a

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Speaker 1: gent at the age of twenty nine. One is marriage

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Speaker 1: and the other is the possibility of a first child. Yes, now,

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Speaker 1: marriage is a nervous time for a man. That's what

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Speaker 1: they're to say. Person, Well, this is we're working on

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Speaker 1: men cheating. The statistic of men cheating there is a

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Speaker 1: difference in gender. So twenty nine is the marriage and

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Speaker 1: then quite often when the first child arrived, the man

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Speaker 1: can feel pushed out because it's all about mum and

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Speaker 1: bubb Oh it's so awful.

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Speaker 2: Suck.

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Speaker 4: That's so that's when they feel to get rid of

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Speaker 4: that feeling the best out and another woman.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm out of the gang. So I'm going to

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Speaker 3: go and do I'm going to go and find another.

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Speaker 2: Lady who's talking. No, I just know my head. I

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Speaker 2: didn't know you were the kids out of the Wizard of.

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Speaker 1: Oz, Thelli Guild BULLI bup guild.

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Speaker 3: No, that's that's unfair. I shouldn't. I'm actually not being

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Speaker 3: and you don't know, not being anti men.

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Speaker 5: Or anti husbands or anti new fathers because it is

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Speaker 5: very difficult for everybody involved.

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Speaker 3: I get it, okay, I you.

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Speaker 5: Know I'm understim No, but I truly mean that that

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Speaker 5: was a very big, general sweeping anti.

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Speaker 3: And it's not That's not what I am. It's very

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Speaker 3: hard when the dynamics change within the house.

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Speaker 1: That's right. I want to throw this one out there.

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Speaker 1: How close to the birth did you find out they

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Speaker 1: were cheated? How close was it?

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Speaker 3: What if you couldn't find them when the baby was

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Speaker 3: being born and they were with Samantha?

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Speaker 1: Could be some horror stories coming here, Carl.

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Speaker 2: Carl's given us a call from Gilford. What happened? Carl?

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Speaker 6: Directly after birth? My four year old told me that

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Speaker 6: Daddy and Sammy were in bed.

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Speaker 3: No, hang on a second, Hang on a second. So

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Speaker 3: this is this is in the hospital.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I just delivered. Yeah, and my four year old

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Speaker 6: come to meet her new sister, and she said, is

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Speaker 6: this Mummy's baby or Sunny's baby?

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Speaker 2: It was dad there or he wasn't there? Yeah, he

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Speaker 2: was there.

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Speaker 6: He was a little bit mortified, back pedals as much

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Speaker 6: as he possibly could, but the cup was already out.

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Speaker 3: And who's Sammy? Did you know who Sammy was?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: A friend who friends?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, friend of daddy's.

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Speaker 1: Did you suspected prior to this?

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Speaker 6: Well, they're sort of related, give it in the family.

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Speaker 2: And it's just the sort of related. How are they okay?

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Speaker 3: How are they related? How are they sort of related?

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Speaker 6: His mom is dad's sister's partner's kids.

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Speaker 2: All right, So, Kyle, are you still with this man?

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Speaker 2: Or is it over?

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Speaker 6: God?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And how many children are there too?

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Speaker 6: To him? They're true?

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Speaker 3: Oh, Kylie, what did you do in that moment?

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Speaker 5: Did you kind of like just park that because you

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Speaker 5: had some other things to do with like a brand

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Speaker 5: new baby and whatever? Did you deal with it once

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Speaker 5: you left the hospital or how.

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Speaker 1: Did that out?

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Speaker 6: Hold? No, the nurses were there to help support. Yes,

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Speaker 6: it's a fantastic It helps that. I'm a fellow nurse

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Speaker 6: and my colleagues helped me deal with that. My dad

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Speaker 6: get him out of the hospital and moved me out

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Speaker 6: while I was still in hospital.

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Speaker 2: Have you found love since, Kylie?

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Speaker 6: Yes? I have been married for twelve months.

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Speaker 1: Love that word, and what is your relationship with him

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Speaker 1: like now obviously being the father to the kids.

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Speaker 6: We were always amicable, you know the baby in question.

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Speaker 6: Now it's twenty seven and about to get married.

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Speaker 2: Wow, so.

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Speaker 6: We've always been amicable. I'm not that type of person.

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Speaker 6: I don't do that. You know, we've cut and dried.

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Speaker 6: That's fine. He actually at her deb he and his

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Speaker 6: wife and newborn baby stayed with us. Okay, we were

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Speaker 6: always amicable.

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Speaker 1: And how long did he stay with Sammy?

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Speaker 6: They didn't stay together.

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Speaker 2: They couldn't.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the courts wouldn't allow it. Do you think he

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Speaker 3: regrets that?

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Speaker 6: I'm sure there's at some level. We haven't spoken about

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Speaker 6: it since because it's just not worth it to put

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Speaker 6: that pressure on my daughter.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, of course, because has she felt as though she

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Speaker 5: somehow made mommy and daddy not be together anymore?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean fair well, we've approached it, and also

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Speaker 4: for you know, obviously to number one is the kids

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Speaker 4: and they've still got their father and their lives.

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Speaker 6: But absolutely well done for sharing your.

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Speaker 1: Story, Karlie. Unbelievable. That's tough. That is really tough. A

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Speaker 1: lot to unpack there, you might say, makes me feel sad.

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Speaker 1: I mean to think that he acted in lust. I

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Speaker 1: Reckoni is the saddest part about this, Like, if there

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Speaker 1: was nothing going on with Sammy, what are you doing?

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Speaker 2: What are you doing making that phone call and going, hey,

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Speaker 2: you know she's in hospital.

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Speaker 1: She's in hospital.

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Speaker 2: There's no one here at home. I just don't know

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Speaker 2: what's going through your mind?

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Speaker 5: I think, what is it?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I think there's I won't well, yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: People do silly things, don't they.

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Speaker 1: You know when people say too like you've got that

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Speaker 1: look on your face where you go. It's hard to judge,

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Speaker 1: but we do, don't we. I'm not sure.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm judging, But I think Kylie's

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Speaker 3: a great woman.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think she's really considerate to be considering

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Speaker 5: the first child who would have felt somewhat responsible for

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Speaker 5: the breakdown of mum and dad's relationship.

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Speaker 3: And it's got nothing to do with that. Dad made

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Speaker 3: his choices, Mum made his choices, choices.

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Speaker 1: And his choices probably tommy pair of explorer socks for

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Speaker 1: I don't think, oh.

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Speaker 3: That'll make it all better into one hundred bucks to

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Speaker 3: spend it.

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Speaker 2: Flowers for everyone, lovely, Okay?

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Speaker 1: We're still there. Color. That's awesome, right for cleaning that up.

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