1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:27,001 Speaker 1: Apoday production. Back to another episode about My Lads Mom podcast. 2 00:00:27,641 --> 00:00:29,801 Speaker 1: We're on the what's that. 3 00:00:29,881 --> 00:00:31,921 Speaker 2: Spiral slide called? 4 00:00:32,161 --> 00:00:33,321 Speaker 1: Is it a helter skelter? 5 00:00:34,081 --> 00:00:39,001 Speaker 2: Never heard of that in my life? Holy fuck? Is 6 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,641 Speaker 2: it a helter? Random ship? Where'd you want that? 7 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:47,761 Speaker 1: What's a helter skelter about? 8 00:00:47,881 --> 00:00:50,121 Speaker 2: Basically, what Katie's trying to say is we're on the 9 00:00:50,161 --> 00:00:54,601 Speaker 2: downward spar towards Christmas, Yeah and school holidays? Yeah? Thanks? 10 00:00:54,641 --> 00:00:57,601 Speaker 2: You said that better, so much clearer because I've never 11 00:00:57,641 --> 00:01:02,081 Speaker 2: heard of helter skelter in my fucking life. Me. I 12 00:01:02,121 --> 00:01:04,041 Speaker 2: was like, what is about? 13 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,921 Speaker 1: You know those like spiral slides? 14 00:01:07,041 --> 00:01:10,161 Speaker 2: Yeah, like coin in at the top of He goes, no, no, 15 00:01:10,241 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: you slide on them? Like, oh no again, I've never 16 00:01:13,241 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: been on one of these. Get on and it's like 17 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,241 Speaker 2: a slide. Yeah, it's a slide. Okay, I'm sure it was. 18 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,681 Speaker 2: You just made it up. Man, I did need all 19 00:01:23,721 --> 00:01:28,481 Speaker 2: of eight. He needs a break. Somebody she's had a 20 00:01:28,521 --> 00:01:31,881 Speaker 2: stress for a weekend and it wasn't even her kids 21 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: providing the stress of life. It was your husband. Yeah. 22 00:01:36,121 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: I don't want to go down that path because I 23 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,361 Speaker 2: feel like I'm going to open it back up. 24 00:01:39,481 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: Oh I think I feel like I have to say 25 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,881 Speaker 1: it now you've said it. The girls turn seventeen a 26 00:01:43,881 --> 00:01:45,241 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, and they've. 27 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,841 Speaker 2: Got a car, bought their car. They're happy. Yeah, yeah, excellent. 28 00:01:49,081 --> 00:01:52,281 Speaker 1: He's reversed out of the driveway in his car and 29 00:01:52,321 --> 00:01:55,081 Speaker 1: crashed straight into their What the fuck? 30 00:01:56,001 --> 00:01:59,401 Speaker 2: He looked very sheepish though this morning when he's telling 31 00:01:59,441 --> 00:02:02,961 Speaker 2: me about it. I understand your frustration, and I probably 32 00:02:03,081 --> 00:02:06,201 Speaker 2: like when I thought about what would I response have been, 33 00:02:06,401 --> 00:02:08,521 Speaker 2: I think I would have reacted like a mixture of 34 00:02:08,561 --> 00:02:10,881 Speaker 2: all three of you. Yeah, the three of you girls 35 00:02:10,921 --> 00:02:14,881 Speaker 2: all had different reactions. Yeah, I understand your frustration and 36 00:02:14,921 --> 00:02:18,761 Speaker 2: the first burst of reaction to being anger, because I 37 00:02:18,841 --> 00:02:20,321 Speaker 2: think I do that as well. 38 00:02:20,881 --> 00:02:21,761 Speaker 1: Accidents happen. 39 00:02:23,081 --> 00:02:28,281 Speaker 2: You did not say that first up, That's not what 40 00:02:28,361 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 2: I said. But accidents happened. 41 00:02:30,361 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but look in your rear view mirror and 42 00:02:34,281 --> 00:02:36,641 Speaker 1: listen to the cameras that are beeping. 43 00:02:37,201 --> 00:02:39,281 Speaker 2: We did you cannot tell you were. 44 00:02:39,201 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: Getting closer here, but my car always beeps at me 45 00:02:41,721 --> 00:02:43,361 Speaker 1: when I reverse out the driveway, and. 46 00:02:43,361 --> 00:02:45,361 Speaker 2: He was only just going to get a coffee. 47 00:02:45,401 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: The poor car, the car screaming at you. 48 00:02:48,321 --> 00:02:54,081 Speaker 2: Listen to me, Oh, bless, I love him, but I 49 00:02:54,121 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: do love how he did mention all three of your 50 00:02:58,561 --> 00:03:00,361 Speaker 2: responses being very different. 51 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,201 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was angry because I was thinking about the 52 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:04,281 Speaker 1: excess that we're going. 53 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: To be made you absolute fuck with Yeah, Holly money. 54 00:03:09,641 --> 00:03:11,561 Speaker 1: She thought she was going to have to pay for it, 55 00:03:11,601 --> 00:03:14,481 Speaker 1: and then her next thought was people are. 56 00:03:14,361 --> 00:03:15,361 Speaker 2: Going to think I've done that. 57 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Amelia was kind and accidents happened. 58 00:03:20,121 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: Don't worry Dad, don't worry dad. It's okay. This can 59 00:03:23,881 --> 00:03:26,641 Speaker 2: happen to anybody. Yeah. So, I mean, that's a beautiful, 60 00:03:26,641 --> 00:03:29,161 Speaker 2: well rounded response in terms of a household. 61 00:03:29,281 --> 00:03:31,601 Speaker 1: You fucking idiot was the words that I said. 62 00:03:32,921 --> 00:03:35,961 Speaker 2: And he looked at me. He started your like, accidents happened. 63 00:03:35,961 --> 00:03:47,641 Speaker 2: I was like, that is not what you said. Am 64 00:03:47,641 --> 00:03:52,081 Speaker 2: I a bad mom for being thrown under the bus? 65 00:03:53,361 --> 00:03:55,601 Speaker 1: Who's bad? Is that you being a bad MoMA? 66 00:03:55,681 --> 00:03:57,721 Speaker 2: Is that them being a bad kid? Well, she's a mom. 67 00:03:58,081 --> 00:04:01,561 Speaker 2: Another mom has thrown another mom under the busy. Okay, 68 00:04:01,681 --> 00:04:04,281 Speaker 2: we've talked about this previously the other week on a 69 00:04:04,321 --> 00:04:07,201 Speaker 2: podcast which was Late Night Chats with Gracie at the 70 00:04:07,281 --> 00:04:10,841 Speaker 2: Kitchen Bench. Yeah. Yeah, the conversations that are coming in 71 00:04:11,041 --> 00:04:13,721 Speaker 2: nice and hot. They're thick and fast at the moment. Yeah, 72 00:04:13,801 --> 00:04:16,881 Speaker 2: B they're always like very late at night, and my 73 00:04:16,921 --> 00:04:21,401 Speaker 2: frustration and level and tiredness is fucking peeking by eight 74 00:04:21,401 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: point thirty. 75 00:04:22,081 --> 00:04:25,041 Speaker 1: This is something that always challenges me as well, because 76 00:04:25,681 --> 00:04:28,921 Speaker 1: I want to be the person that goes allow them 77 00:04:28,961 --> 00:04:31,841 Speaker 1: to get it all out, allow them to talk it through. 78 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,841 Speaker 2: She needs to be seen heard. 79 00:04:35,121 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: But then it battles with the other part of me 80 00:04:37,281 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: that goes, I fucking asked you at four o'clock how 81 00:04:39,401 --> 00:04:40,041 Speaker 1: your day was. 82 00:04:40,801 --> 00:04:43,561 Speaker 2: Can you've told me all of this then? And I 83 00:04:43,641 --> 00:04:46,601 Speaker 2: have you in the back of my mind. When I 84 00:04:46,641 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: feel that other part of my brain starting to flicker, 85 00:04:50,721 --> 00:04:54,081 Speaker 2: it's like almost like the lights flickering right when by 86 00:04:54,121 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: the time I'm at nine point thirty and I'm standing 87 00:04:56,401 --> 00:05:00,161 Speaker 2: at the kitchen bench and I am getting hit with 88 00:05:00,281 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: this like peppering of questions because you really can't be 89 00:05:04,481 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: bothered you. I don't want to go to bed yet. 90 00:05:06,401 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: But at the same time, I'm making fucking school lunches 91 00:05:09,361 --> 00:05:11,601 Speaker 2: for the next day. I actually just want to do 92 00:05:11,641 --> 00:05:14,041 Speaker 2: it in peace and quiet because I hate a doing it. 93 00:05:14,081 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: But B, what more do you want from me? From 94 00:05:17,081 --> 00:05:18,721 Speaker 2: the end of the day, Like, just leave me the 95 00:05:18,761 --> 00:05:21,441 Speaker 2: fuck alone. Like when you go to bed, I get 96 00:05:21,481 --> 00:05:25,041 Speaker 2: to disconnect, and the disconnection means I don't care about you. 97 00:05:25,081 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that. It just means I'm trying to 98 00:05:27,641 --> 00:05:30,081 Speaker 2: recharge batteries here, you know, Like when you fucking get 99 00:05:30,121 --> 00:05:31,721 Speaker 2: the blower out and you got the battery like and 100 00:05:31,721 --> 00:05:33,281 Speaker 2: you put it in the battery back, That's kind of 101 00:05:33,281 --> 00:05:39,241 Speaker 2: what I'm doing. Leave me alone. This particular occasion came 102 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:43,001 Speaker 2: up from a very good friend of ours. But what 103 00:05:43,081 --> 00:05:47,481 Speaker 2: happened was I was standing at Nepple watching Elsie on 104 00:05:47,521 --> 00:05:51,121 Speaker 2: a Tuesday. I get a text message from aka friend 105 00:05:51,241 --> 00:05:54,841 Speaker 2: Slash another mum, and she says, when you were chatting 106 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 2: to my daughter, did she seem okay? She seems really 107 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,161 Speaker 2: off me tonight. She's not talking to me. She give 108 00:06:00,201 --> 00:06:02,521 Speaker 2: me the cold shoulder. I just replied and was like, no, 109 00:06:02,721 --> 00:06:05,401 Speaker 2: she was good. We talked all the way home from school. 110 00:06:05,561 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: Everything seemed fine. She just said she was tired, but 111 00:06:08,241 --> 00:06:13,481 Speaker 2: we had great chats, and then she goes, well, just 112 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:18,121 Speaker 2: so you're aware, and I'm thinking, oh god, she did 113 00:06:18,121 --> 00:06:21,361 Speaker 2: find my vibrator this morning and has not spoken to 114 00:06:21,401 --> 00:06:23,721 Speaker 2: me since. She told me that she was disgusted in 115 00:06:23,761 --> 00:06:27,321 Speaker 2: me and that she can't believe me. And then the 116 00:06:27,361 --> 00:06:30,361 Speaker 2: next thing she said was, I bet you Rachel doesn't 117 00:06:30,361 --> 00:06:37,441 Speaker 2: even have one of these. I was like, I'm standing 118 00:06:37,481 --> 00:06:39,681 Speaker 2: at netbun, I'm still watching network, but I'm thinking it's 119 00:06:39,681 --> 00:06:42,801 Speaker 2: about something else, And I was like what and I 120 00:06:42,921 --> 00:06:46,961 Speaker 2: would tell me that. She replied with, she absolutely does. 121 00:06:47,001 --> 00:06:50,561 Speaker 2: She's got the model up. I said to her, well, 122 00:06:50,601 --> 00:06:53,521 Speaker 2: I hope that you left it at that, and I 123 00:06:53,561 --> 00:06:56,001 Speaker 2: hope you left me standing on the pedestal while you 124 00:06:56,081 --> 00:07:00,681 Speaker 2: were not because I was like, oh my gosh. I 125 00:07:00,761 --> 00:07:02,161 Speaker 2: was like, bybe pretty rough. 126 00:07:02,041 --> 00:07:06,641 Speaker 1: Like how sweet that she's looking you going, Rachel would 127 00:07:06,721 --> 00:07:07,161 Speaker 1: never do it? 128 00:07:07,281 --> 00:07:10,401 Speaker 2: Never like that. Rachel's not going to do that. She 129 00:07:10,521 --> 00:07:13,201 Speaker 2: would not. I was like, why the mark is she 130 00:07:13,281 --> 00:07:15,361 Speaker 2: going through your drawers in your room? So I'd be 131 00:07:15,401 --> 00:07:18,841 Speaker 2: talking to her about boundaries, your friend boundaries or no, 132 00:07:18,921 --> 00:07:22,361 Speaker 2: she's not places. Yeah, she's not like the others where 133 00:07:22,441 --> 00:07:26,241 Speaker 2: they're just left willing Nelly. She's clean, she's the other friends, 134 00:07:26,321 --> 00:07:30,321 Speaker 2: other friends I know that aren't as strong on putting 135 00:07:30,361 --> 00:07:31,601 Speaker 2: things away in places. 136 00:07:31,761 --> 00:07:40,041 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've stayed in accommodation. So a friend who said, 137 00:07:40,321 --> 00:07:43,401 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I got last night half the last night, 138 00:07:43,521 --> 00:07:46,321 Speaker 1: I'm going home early, so the accommodation is going to 139 00:07:46,361 --> 00:07:51,241 Speaker 1: be free. I opened the bedside draw and she had 140 00:07:51,321 --> 00:07:52,481 Speaker 1: left a little friend in there. 141 00:07:54,361 --> 00:07:57,881 Speaker 2: She messaged me and goes, how do you recognize your 142 00:07:57,921 --> 00:08:01,121 Speaker 2: approaches with Katie? I was like, you're on your own girlfriend. 143 00:08:01,201 --> 00:08:03,481 Speaker 2: I'm not going upstairs to help her out. I'm not 144 00:08:03,481 --> 00:08:06,041 Speaker 2: bringing home for you. That's all yours. Anyway, that was 145 00:08:06,081 --> 00:08:09,001 Speaker 2: pretty funny, So yeah, just carrying on with that, I 146 00:08:09,041 --> 00:08:11,321 Speaker 2: just sort of said to her, look, time will heal. 147 00:08:11,521 --> 00:08:14,121 Speaker 2: It's fine, Like it's okay, Yeah, she's. 148 00:08:13,801 --> 00:08:15,841 Speaker 1: Gonna think you're disgusting for a bit. 149 00:08:16,081 --> 00:08:18,561 Speaker 2: And then my response I was like, I really hope 150 00:08:18,561 --> 00:08:21,841 Speaker 2: that you didn't say anything further. She went absolutely, if 151 00:08:21,881 --> 00:08:24,361 Speaker 2: my fucking buses going down, I sent your bus down? 152 00:08:24,841 --> 00:08:27,481 Speaker 2: What did she say? She said it was yours? Of 153 00:08:27,521 --> 00:08:30,601 Speaker 2: course it was yours. I was like over there, I 154 00:08:30,681 --> 00:08:33,601 Speaker 2: was like thinking. I was like, oh you s Then 155 00:08:33,641 --> 00:08:35,881 Speaker 2: I was like laughing my head off and I was like, 156 00:08:35,921 --> 00:08:39,321 Speaker 2: oh fuck you. Anyway, didn't think anything of it, Katie. 157 00:08:39,441 --> 00:08:42,161 Speaker 2: Fast forward to nine point thirty that night. Yeah, and 158 00:08:42,281 --> 00:08:44,881 Speaker 2: I'm standing at the kitchen bench making lunches in order 159 00:08:44,881 --> 00:08:47,161 Speaker 2: to burrow Wednesday morning to work in our household, I 160 00:08:47,201 --> 00:08:49,521 Speaker 2: have to do the lunch boxes. So I just did 161 00:08:49,601 --> 00:08:53,281 Speaker 2: like the old traditional like veggimie cheese, and that's fine. 162 00:08:53,681 --> 00:08:55,361 Speaker 2: I think it was like at this stage, nine thirty 163 00:08:55,441 --> 00:08:58,321 Speaker 2: quarter to ten, we'd gotten home late. I'd put them 164 00:08:58,361 --> 00:09:01,081 Speaker 2: into bed, said read your book, like leave me alone. 165 00:09:01,121 --> 00:09:04,161 Speaker 2: Now I've got to make lunch boxes. Good night, Yes, 166 00:09:04,321 --> 00:09:06,081 Speaker 2: love you, good night, good night, good night. 167 00:09:06,321 --> 00:09:08,921 Speaker 3: I'm standing there and then you can hear footsteps and 168 00:09:08,961 --> 00:09:11,521 Speaker 3: you're as a mom, You're just like you can feel 169 00:09:11,561 --> 00:09:15,641 Speaker 3: it boiling, and you're like, oh, I'm like putting the 170 00:09:15,721 --> 00:09:18,121 Speaker 3: veggimite on the fucking bread. And I looked and I 171 00:09:18,201 --> 00:09:24,201 Speaker 3: was like what, and she goes, Mom, I just need 172 00:09:24,241 --> 00:09:26,721 Speaker 3: to ask you something. At this stage, you don't know 173 00:09:26,761 --> 00:09:28,841 Speaker 3: what's going to be asked at night, forty five at night. 174 00:09:28,881 --> 00:09:31,441 Speaker 3: Just keep vegiman, just keep fucking going with the vegimite. 175 00:09:32,161 --> 00:09:35,241 Speaker 2: And I was like, yes, Gracie, what And she was like, 176 00:09:35,921 --> 00:09:41,961 Speaker 2: I just want to know do you have a vibrator? Okatie, 177 00:09:42,001 --> 00:09:44,601 Speaker 2: this is this is still me at the bench with 178 00:09:44,721 --> 00:09:47,441 Speaker 2: my vegimite. And I was like, you don't stop, don't book, 179 00:09:47,601 --> 00:09:51,561 Speaker 2: don't show any emotion, just keep veggimiting. And I looked 180 00:09:51,601 --> 00:09:53,881 Speaker 2: at her and I went, well, let me just go 181 00:09:54,041 --> 00:09:56,561 Speaker 2: down the track of this is one of those subjects 182 00:09:57,201 --> 00:09:59,321 Speaker 2: that do you really want to know? Because once you know, 183 00:09:59,401 --> 00:10:02,721 Speaker 2: you can't Unknow, I said, and I can go through 184 00:10:02,921 --> 00:10:05,401 Speaker 2: everything with you if you like. I can tell you 185 00:10:05,521 --> 00:10:08,161 Speaker 2: everything like why you have them, why you use them, 186 00:10:08,201 --> 00:10:10,681 Speaker 2: what you get from them. This is that moment. I'm 187 00:10:10,681 --> 00:10:12,641 Speaker 2: going to put it back on you and go once 188 00:10:12,681 --> 00:10:14,641 Speaker 2: you know, you kinda know, so would you like to know? 189 00:10:15,161 --> 00:10:16,641 Speaker 2: She looked at me and she was like, I don't 190 00:10:16,641 --> 00:10:17,601 Speaker 2: think I want to know them. 191 00:10:18,361 --> 00:10:19,961 Speaker 1: That was a very obvious yes. 192 00:10:20,321 --> 00:10:21,321 Speaker 2: No, it wasn't yes. 193 00:10:21,401 --> 00:10:24,201 Speaker 1: It was because the question was do you have a 194 00:10:24,281 --> 00:10:25,401 Speaker 1: vibe or I have one? 195 00:10:25,761 --> 00:10:27,961 Speaker 2: I didn't answer it. I didn't say yes, but I 196 00:10:28,001 --> 00:10:31,601 Speaker 2: didn't say no, so technically not lying, I just redirected 197 00:10:31,641 --> 00:10:33,641 Speaker 2: it to once you know, you cannot know? So do 198 00:10:33,681 --> 00:10:35,881 Speaker 2: you want to know everything? Because I can't give you 199 00:10:35,921 --> 00:10:38,801 Speaker 2: a yes or no because the next question will come 200 00:10:38,921 --> 00:10:41,841 Speaker 2: in and it will be what do you use it for? 201 00:10:42,161 --> 00:10:44,321 Speaker 2: Why do you And it's kind of like once you're in, 202 00:10:44,441 --> 00:10:46,121 Speaker 2: it's like what is it called a pin? When you 203 00:10:46,121 --> 00:10:50,121 Speaker 2: go tampin bowling. You can't stop the ball. The momentum 204 00:10:50,281 --> 00:10:53,721 Speaker 2: of the ball is going to take out every whatever 205 00:10:53,761 --> 00:10:55,841 Speaker 2: those things are called. At the end of tampin bowling, 206 00:10:56,001 --> 00:10:59,561 Speaker 2: the pins, it'll be gone, it'll be done. Come back 207 00:10:59,601 --> 00:11:02,001 Speaker 2: to me when you're ready. I'm going to keep making lunchboxes. 208 00:11:02,241 --> 00:11:03,841 Speaker 2: I was like, now, go to bed. 209 00:11:04,401 --> 00:11:05,041 Speaker 1: By this day. 210 00:11:05,521 --> 00:11:09,361 Speaker 2: The sandwich has got so much. I put forty five 211 00:11:09,401 --> 00:11:11,921 Speaker 2: pieces of cheese and I was just like, oh my god. 212 00:11:12,481 --> 00:11:14,121 Speaker 2: And then at the same time, in my head, I 213 00:11:14,161 --> 00:11:16,561 Speaker 2: was like, fuck you. Thinking of my friend, I said, 214 00:11:16,641 --> 00:11:19,881 Speaker 2: fuck you. Oh my god, this is so unfair. I've 215 00:11:19,921 --> 00:11:22,201 Speaker 2: been thrown under the bus. I don't have to be 216 00:11:22,241 --> 00:11:25,001 Speaker 2: dealing with this. And it's all because of your top drawer. 217 00:11:25,521 --> 00:11:30,201 Speaker 2: You haven't hidden shit properly. And it's not my fault. Katie. 218 00:11:30,241 --> 00:11:32,361 Speaker 2: When has your girls never asked you what they've gone 219 00:11:32,401 --> 00:11:34,681 Speaker 2: through your top drawer, asked you about your vibrators. I've 220 00:11:34,721 --> 00:11:35,441 Speaker 2: never been asked. 221 00:11:35,601 --> 00:11:40,121 Speaker 1: See you know why because mine's in Jay's top drawer. 222 00:11:42,801 --> 00:11:48,561 Speaker 1: So girls ever go through his top drawer, they're gonna 223 00:11:48,561 --> 00:11:50,481 Speaker 1: think he's the disgusting one. 224 00:11:53,841 --> 00:11:56,681 Speaker 2: Don't worry about Dad. He loves a good vibrator.