1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:24,961 Speaker 1: Appogiae Production. Welcome back to another episode of am I 2 00:00:25,081 --> 00:00:25,921 Speaker 1: About Mum? 3 00:00:26,441 --> 00:00:27,201 Speaker 2: Podcast? 4 00:00:27,721 --> 00:00:30,161 Speaker 1: The question we keep asking three times a. 5 00:00:30,121 --> 00:00:34,121 Speaker 2: Week, over and over again to remain in control of 6 00:00:34,161 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: our own sanity, and then we just share it with others, 7 00:00:37,961 --> 00:00:41,521 Speaker 2: with all our amazing network of listeners, so that they 8 00:00:41,801 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: also feel like, as a collective, we're okay, We've got this. 9 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,441 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're in it together. 10 00:00:47,561 --> 00:00:49,801 Speaker 2: We're in it together and on the same What did 11 00:00:49,801 --> 00:00:52,481 Speaker 2: we normally say. It's like we're on the same bus. 12 00:00:52,561 --> 00:00:55,601 Speaker 1: No, we're the same and we're on the same boat, boat. 13 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:02,441 Speaker 2: Some form of transport headed in the same direction. Shit, 14 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: am I a bad mum for not keeping up with 15 00:01:15,121 --> 00:01:20,041 Speaker 2: the needs of my children. It's quite funny actually, because 16 00:01:20,041 --> 00:01:23,481 Speaker 2: you know, you have moments where you are doing something 17 00:01:23,521 --> 00:01:28,041 Speaker 2: that you've possibly done before numerous times, except this time, 18 00:01:28,161 --> 00:01:29,961 Speaker 2: for some reason, it just feels different. 19 00:01:30,161 --> 00:01:30,441 Speaker 1: Right. 20 00:01:31,081 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: So we have talked so many times in the early 21 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,761 Speaker 2: days of this podcast about the days when you go 22 00:01:37,801 --> 00:01:41,321 Speaker 2: to the beach with your kids. So I'm not talking 23 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: about the days that you go to the beach with 24 00:01:43,481 --> 00:01:47,321 Speaker 2: yourself and the book and the bottle of water and 25 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,881 Speaker 2: the one towel and you just enjoy being in the sun. 26 00:01:51,001 --> 00:01:53,121 Speaker 2: I'm talking about children. Now. 27 00:01:53,241 --> 00:01:55,881 Speaker 1: It's two completely different days. 28 00:01:56,161 --> 00:01:58,561 Speaker 2: Remember back to the days Katie we were talking on 29 00:01:58,561 --> 00:02:01,921 Speaker 2: this podcast. We were lolling one day so hard over 30 00:02:01,921 --> 00:02:04,041 Speaker 2: the fact that you'd been to the beach with your 31 00:02:04,121 --> 00:02:08,041 Speaker 2: daughters and you'd take in the tent and you'd take 32 00:02:08,081 --> 00:02:11,401 Speaker 2: in the sunscreen and the buckets and the shovels, and 33 00:02:11,481 --> 00:02:14,721 Speaker 2: you had everything set up with them, right, and then 34 00:02:14,761 --> 00:02:16,681 Speaker 2: you had that tent thing that you were sort of 35 00:02:16,721 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 2: half in the shade, half in the sun, so you 36 00:02:18,841 --> 00:02:20,761 Speaker 2: were prepared for everything that was going to be thrown 37 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,641 Speaker 2: at you, and you thought on that particular day, you 38 00:02:23,641 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: would sit down and read a book. Right. 39 00:02:25,321 --> 00:02:28,281 Speaker 1: I always used to laugh at myself taking kids to 40 00:02:28,361 --> 00:02:30,921 Speaker 1: the beach, seeing the book in my bag and then 41 00:02:31,001 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: being like, what do I track that for? Like, that's 42 00:02:33,441 --> 00:02:35,641 Speaker 1: a funny joke that I packed a book to come 43 00:02:35,641 --> 00:02:38,521 Speaker 1: to the beach and they needed me constantly. And there 44 00:02:38,601 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: was a mesh window in the back of this tent 45 00:02:42,041 --> 00:02:44,761 Speaker 1: and they were occupied for like I think Jay had 46 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,121 Speaker 1: taken them in the water, and I knew they were 47 00:02:46,121 --> 00:02:48,041 Speaker 1: going to be occupied for about ten minutes, Like I 48 00:02:48,081 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: had literally ten minutes. I laid down and I had 49 00:02:52,441 --> 00:02:54,441 Speaker 1: my head like I was half in the tent, half 50 00:02:54,481 --> 00:02:57,281 Speaker 1: out the tent, and I started reading the book and 51 00:02:57,321 --> 00:03:03,361 Speaker 1: the dog came up behind the tent, lifted its leg up, 52 00:03:03,761 --> 00:03:07,561 Speaker 1: and weed threw the mesh window, and I was like 53 00:03:08,041 --> 00:03:09,321 Speaker 1: I had ten minutes. 54 00:03:11,881 --> 00:03:15,721 Speaker 2: And so now fast forward many years and we're still 55 00:03:15,761 --> 00:03:18,201 Speaker 2: doing this podcast. But I was having a reflection moment 56 00:03:18,321 --> 00:03:21,281 Speaker 2: sitting on the beach this time, and I was at 57 00:03:21,281 --> 00:03:25,081 Speaker 2: the beach by myself with my two girls, and it 58 00:03:25,161 --> 00:03:29,601 Speaker 2: was only like last week. And if you know Nooser 59 00:03:29,921 --> 00:03:32,401 Speaker 2: Main Beach, it's pretty flat. There's waves, but it's not 60 00:03:32,561 --> 00:03:34,921 Speaker 2: out of control. It's not like the open beaches. You 61 00:03:35,041 --> 00:03:37,361 Speaker 2: put a little bit of a leeway there for kids 62 00:03:38,081 --> 00:03:39,841 Speaker 2: to be able to swim. Anyway, we had a really 63 00:03:39,881 --> 00:03:43,721 Speaker 2: good day in terms of weather, and so the flags 64 00:03:43,721 --> 00:03:46,161 Speaker 2: were a little bit more separated. Now I'm just having 65 00:03:46,161 --> 00:03:48,081 Speaker 2: that moment where I was like, gosh, I remember the 66 00:03:48,161 --> 00:03:50,601 Speaker 2: days where we'd talk about on the podcast everything that 67 00:03:50,641 --> 00:03:53,361 Speaker 2: you'd need to bring to the beach with your kids 68 00:03:53,441 --> 00:03:57,441 Speaker 2: at certain ages. So now I'm at that next part 69 00:03:57,561 --> 00:04:01,281 Speaker 2: of going. I'm at what eleven and nine years old 70 00:04:01,361 --> 00:04:03,881 Speaker 2: my girls and I'm getting to the beach and I 71 00:04:04,121 --> 00:04:10,961 Speaker 2: literally brought a bag, a beach bag with three towels. Yep. Now, 72 00:04:11,401 --> 00:04:16,041 Speaker 2: back in the day, I would have packed an eskie 73 00:04:16,401 --> 00:04:20,641 Speaker 2: with cold waters and food and snacks, everything that you 74 00:04:20,681 --> 00:04:22,481 Speaker 2: can think of, like the kitchen sink. When you go 75 00:04:22,521 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: to the beach when your kids are younger, you have 76 00:04:24,401 --> 00:04:28,521 Speaker 2: to pack everything, you cool, kabana like whatever that cabana 77 00:04:28,601 --> 00:04:31,401 Speaker 2: thing is to give you some shade. Now I barely packed. 78 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,241 Speaker 2: I don't even think my kids know they did. They 79 00:04:33,241 --> 00:04:34,521 Speaker 2: had a hat on their head each. 80 00:04:34,801 --> 00:04:37,721 Speaker 1: I had one of those trolleys. You load the trolley up, 81 00:04:37,721 --> 00:04:39,721 Speaker 1: but the trolley's never big enough because you've got so 82 00:04:39,801 --> 00:04:42,241 Speaker 1: much it. You got the eski, you got the shade, 83 00:04:42,361 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: You've got the boogie balls. 84 00:04:44,241 --> 00:04:47,121 Speaker 2: You've also got like fold up chests and have pockets 85 00:04:47,201 --> 00:04:49,921 Speaker 2: that you can sit on and or you never you 86 00:04:49,961 --> 00:04:50,561 Speaker 2: never sit in. 87 00:04:50,721 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got the whole setup. Then you get your bag, 88 00:04:53,001 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: you get your towels, you got everything like that. The 89 00:04:55,601 --> 00:04:59,921 Speaker 1: amount of times I'd be struggling with that trolley because 90 00:04:59,921 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: they're not meant for sem Like, what the hell is 91 00:05:03,121 --> 00:05:06,121 Speaker 1: with that? They're beach trolleys and they are no good 92 00:05:06,161 --> 00:05:09,041 Speaker 1: on sand once you start wheeling them on sand. 93 00:05:09,201 --> 00:05:10,041 Speaker 2: Yeah, soft sand. 94 00:05:10,241 --> 00:05:13,121 Speaker 1: It's like doing the workout. Like you go from the beach, 95 00:05:13,161 --> 00:05:15,241 Speaker 1: you pack it all up. At the end, it's like 96 00:05:15,401 --> 00:05:19,241 Speaker 1: stuff spilling out. You gotta go back. You're like struggling 97 00:05:19,281 --> 00:05:21,001 Speaker 1: through the sand like. 98 00:05:20,961 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: It's to get each other up, though, but you've gotta 99 00:05:22,921 --> 00:05:25,121 Speaker 2: be set up for hours, like hours. 100 00:05:25,201 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: I would have days at the beach and walking back 101 00:05:28,801 --> 00:05:32,001 Speaker 1: towards the car up the beach on the sand felt 102 00:05:32,041 --> 00:05:33,361 Speaker 1: like I was coming back from war. 103 00:05:36,081 --> 00:05:39,641 Speaker 2: I can imagine. But I in this particular day, I 104 00:05:39,681 --> 00:05:44,001 Speaker 2: didn't take anything. Now, my kids are like well built children. 105 00:05:44,241 --> 00:05:47,161 Speaker 2: I hadn't even put sunscreen on because I didn't have it. 106 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,121 Speaker 2: That's so bad of me, right, But also this particular 107 00:05:50,241 --> 00:05:52,681 Speaker 2: day was like about twenty two or twenty three. But 108 00:05:52,721 --> 00:05:56,281 Speaker 2: then this one particular child comes out and goes mom like, 109 00:05:56,401 --> 00:06:00,641 Speaker 2: I've got the worst My skin's rubbing, and I'm thinking, oh, 110 00:06:00,721 --> 00:06:03,201 Speaker 2: I got fucking nothing for you. I can't even fix that. 111 00:06:03,681 --> 00:06:06,481 Speaker 2: I can't even fix that because I'm not prepared for this. 112 00:06:06,681 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: But I'm having that moment of going geez, I really really, 113 00:06:10,961 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: you know, you get the leeway because they are not 114 00:06:14,601 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: that little anymore. So then with that leeway, I've dropped 115 00:06:17,201 --> 00:06:20,681 Speaker 2: the ball dropped. It completely. Just thought, oh fuck it. 116 00:06:20,801 --> 00:06:23,681 Speaker 2: And then she comes out and she's like, Mom, I'm starving. 117 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: I was like, just have some water. You'll be fine 118 00:06:27,921 --> 00:06:31,081 Speaker 2: for a couple whiles. But again, Katie, I would have 119 00:06:31,201 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: had the entire fridge contents. 120 00:06:33,841 --> 00:06:36,081 Speaker 1: Back in the day. So you've gone from all to 121 00:06:36,201 --> 00:06:40,601 Speaker 1: the things. You've gone from packing the kitchen sink to 122 00:06:40,921 --> 00:06:42,561 Speaker 1: a day at the beach without some screen. 123 00:06:42,601 --> 00:06:44,841 Speaker 2: Now, when I say packing the kitchen sink, I also 124 00:06:45,041 --> 00:06:47,561 Speaker 2: like you anticipated the fact that I would read a book, 125 00:06:47,601 --> 00:06:50,121 Speaker 2: and I've never read a book. I'm now I'm down 126 00:06:50,201 --> 00:06:53,321 Speaker 2: there with two kids that are swimming during their own thing. 127 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,161 Speaker 2: I'm sitting there watching them. I'm having a coffee going, 128 00:06:56,681 --> 00:07:01,041 Speaker 2: I'm sitting on a beach. It's blissful. Apart from the anyway, 129 00:07:01,081 --> 00:07:02,801 Speaker 2: I won't start that, but it was like a family 130 00:07:02,801 --> 00:07:04,921 Speaker 2: behind me with a screaming child. But apart from that, 131 00:07:05,201 --> 00:07:07,081 Speaker 2: like I was just like, this is blissful. I'm having 132 00:07:07,081 --> 00:07:09,481 Speaker 2: a coffee, the coffee is hot, my kids are happy, 133 00:07:09,481 --> 00:07:13,961 Speaker 2: they're playing together nicely at this stage, and this is 134 00:07:14,041 --> 00:07:14,681 Speaker 2: just blissful. 135 00:07:14,881 --> 00:07:15,241 Speaker 1: Yeah. 136 00:07:15,281 --> 00:07:17,681 Speaker 2: But I wasn't prepared. I didn't have a book. I 137 00:07:17,721 --> 00:07:19,121 Speaker 2: was just like what do I do with my time? 138 00:07:19,361 --> 00:07:20,041 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. 139 00:07:20,081 --> 00:07:20,601 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. 140 00:07:20,641 --> 00:07:24,961 Speaker 1: I just in that scenario, right, So you're on the beach, 141 00:07:25,001 --> 00:07:28,441 Speaker 1: are actually relaxed, Your kids are playing, they're not fighting, 142 00:07:28,481 --> 00:07:31,641 Speaker 1: they're not needing you for this moment. I mean a 143 00:07:31,721 --> 00:07:34,001 Speaker 1: bit of sunburn. Just so that happened. 144 00:07:36,361 --> 00:07:38,881 Speaker 2: Look, the hats, I have to say the hats did 145 00:07:39,001 --> 00:07:41,441 Speaker 2: remain on, because that is my one thing that I 146 00:07:41,521 --> 00:07:44,481 Speaker 2: always am quite picky about the hats being on their 147 00:07:44,521 --> 00:07:47,481 Speaker 2: head because there's nothing worse than fucking dealing with sunstroke 148 00:07:47,561 --> 00:07:50,401 Speaker 2: or anything like that later on when they're just overwhelmed 149 00:07:50,441 --> 00:07:52,161 Speaker 2: because they've had too much heat through their head. 150 00:07:52,321 --> 00:07:54,121 Speaker 1: How do you keep the hats on while they're in the. 151 00:07:54,041 --> 00:07:57,001 Speaker 2: Water, I don't know. They're not dry. They go under 152 00:07:57,041 --> 00:07:58,841 Speaker 2: the water with it on, come back up. They wear 153 00:07:58,881 --> 00:08:00,681 Speaker 2: bucket hats. The bucket hats. 154 00:08:00,441 --> 00:08:02,401 Speaker 1: Are still like a string underneath old. 155 00:08:02,481 --> 00:08:04,481 Speaker 2: No, they just take it off. They're jumping around. They 156 00:08:04,481 --> 00:08:06,761 Speaker 2: put it back on. And do you know what else 157 00:08:06,841 --> 00:08:11,961 Speaker 2: I took to the beach A handball. I don't actually 158 00:08:12,041 --> 00:08:13,601 Speaker 2: know if I packed out of hand. 159 00:08:14,241 --> 00:08:15,641 Speaker 1: It didn't take sunscreen. 160 00:08:15,921 --> 00:08:19,321 Speaker 2: A handball was in the bag. Times have changed so 161 00:08:19,601 --> 00:08:23,641 Speaker 2: much and somehow on just that particular day, the beach 162 00:08:23,721 --> 00:08:26,081 Speaker 2: felt like it was the beach again. 163 00:08:26,521 --> 00:08:29,321 Speaker 1: You finally got there. Yeah, you finally got. 164 00:08:29,241 --> 00:08:31,361 Speaker 2: I can't say that we were when we were leaving 165 00:08:31,561 --> 00:08:34,281 Speaker 2: the chaos that I had to go through to get 166 00:08:34,281 --> 00:08:37,681 Speaker 2: them a to leave b because one couldn't walk to 167 00:08:37,721 --> 00:08:40,321 Speaker 2: the car, the other one wouldn't put shoes on because 168 00:08:40,481 --> 00:08:43,881 Speaker 2: the sand in between her toes and being wet and like, 169 00:08:44,041 --> 00:08:46,441 Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, it wasn't like the most blissful 170 00:08:46,481 --> 00:08:48,561 Speaker 2: day that you could think of, but it was definitely 171 00:08:49,001 --> 00:08:51,841 Speaker 2: a shift in the right direction from baby days. 172 00:08:52,121 --> 00:08:56,121 Speaker 1: Yeah, that post beach sand everywhere is also a lot 173 00:08:56,241 --> 00:08:59,521 Speaker 1: like your car would have looked like shit. It still does. Yeah, 174 00:08:59,801 --> 00:09:03,641 Speaker 1: getting sand out of it for weeks, months on end. 175 00:09:03,801 --> 00:09:06,081 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how many times its Just dust your 176 00:09:06,081 --> 00:09:08,561 Speaker 2: feet off, Like, just at least dust your feet off, 177 00:09:08,681 --> 00:09:10,681 Speaker 2: Sit on the edge of the seat of the car. 178 00:09:11,401 --> 00:09:13,601 Speaker 2: Just run your towel down your legs so it falls 179 00:09:13,641 --> 00:09:16,041 Speaker 2: outside of the car, and then put your legs in 180 00:09:16,361 --> 00:09:16,681 Speaker 2: just that. 181 00:09:17,041 --> 00:09:21,441 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, just to wrap up any mums or dad's 182 00:09:21,601 --> 00:09:24,881 Speaker 1: or anyone out there that wants a secret and a 183 00:09:24,881 --> 00:09:26,921 Speaker 1: lot of people would know this, but wants the secret 184 00:09:26,961 --> 00:09:30,041 Speaker 1: to getting sand off of kids at the beach, tucking powder. 185 00:09:30,481 --> 00:09:32,521 Speaker 2: We did talk about this, Yeah, this is one of 186 00:09:32,561 --> 00:09:33,401 Speaker 2: your fun packs. 187 00:09:33,441 --> 00:09:38,961 Speaker 1: It's so good that come off the sand. They've got 188 00:09:39,121 --> 00:09:42,161 Speaker 1: sand everywhere, all over the legs, TALCN powder rub it over, 189 00:09:42,321 --> 00:09:45,481 Speaker 1: the sand just falls off. Trust me, I can't believe 190 00:09:45,481 --> 00:09:47,481 Speaker 1: you haven't done telling you this for you 191 00:09:47,761 --> 00:09:51,321 Speaker 2: I barely pack fucking sunscreen, let alone talking powder.