WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 31 October

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<v Speaker 1>Lateween General, Welcome to the late Base. Well, good evening.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Joe Hildebrand coming

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<v Speaker 2>up tonight. It's Halloween and Joe Biden is biting babies.

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<v Speaker 2>That's got nothing to do with Halloween. That's just Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to that a little later. Plus, when we

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<v Speaker 2>look at the papers, water bills in Sydney to jump

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<v Speaker 2>by fifty percent as the city struggles to keep up

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<v Speaker 2>with population growth, and Anthony Albanesi tells nervous MPs has

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to worry about with his frequent flyer scandal. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see all of that is in the papers a

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<v Speaker 2>little later, but first, in a move that would make

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<v Speaker 2>Dracula proud, Sydney's Inner City Council has literally sucked the

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<v Speaker 2>life out of local Halloween celebrations. The local government ghouls

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<v Speaker 2>have advised residents that when they're celebrating Halloween, they should

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<v Speaker 2>celebrate it in a sustainable rather than spooky way, and

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<v Speaker 2>it should be organic rather than occultic, which kind of

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<v Speaker 2>defeats the purpose. They put out a social media post

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<v Speaker 2>advising residents, let's avoid the horror of single use plastics

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<v Speaker 2>during the spooky season. Plastic bugs and synthetic spider webs

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<v Speaker 2>are especially dangerous. Wildlife can ingest these items by mistake

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<v Speaker 2>or get caught in them.

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<v Speaker 1>Leading to injury and death.

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<v Speaker 2>We can all enjoy the spookiest Talloween possible without impacting wildlife.

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<v Speaker 2>It was reported that the post listed straw, sheeps, will twigs, sticks,

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<v Speaker 2>cotton wool, and organic food waste as natural materials that

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<v Speaker 2>locals could use. On the other hand, fishing, rope, string, twine, yarn, cottonwool,

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<v Speaker 2>and balloons were discouraged under the subheading do not use now.

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<v Speaker 2>Local residents have reacted in various ways. Some are really upset,

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<v Speaker 2>saying the government should just butt out of their Halloween celebrations.

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<v Speaker 2>Others have been upset that they only had this warning

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<v Speaker 2>two days out from Halloween, giving them a lack of

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<v Speaker 2>time to prepare more sustainable decorations. And then a whole

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<v Speaker 2>lot of other residents were really upset, saying we've already

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<v Speaker 2>put up plastic spiders and cotton spiderwebs, and now our

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<v Speaker 2>neighbors are going to judge us as being unenvironmentally friendly.

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<v Speaker 2>I would suggest if you're dressing as Satan or a demon,

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<v Speaker 2>or a ghost or a vampire, and you're worried about

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<v Speaker 2>being seen to be environmentally not friendly.

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<v Speaker 1>You're probably doing Halloween all wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>But the question I've got Liz and Joe is how

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<v Speaker 2>could the council have put out this advice without someone

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<v Speaker 2>in management saying no, no, no, this is not a good idea.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes me wonder if perhaps the council will operating

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<v Speaker 2>on skeleton staff.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, James, James, it's just a genuous.

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<v Speaker 4>Moment silence to respect the moment in time that comedy died. No,

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<v Speaker 4>that was amazing. I live in the Inn West Council.

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<v Speaker 4>I live in the out Inn West Council and technically

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<v Speaker 4>I identify as a resident of Canterbury Bankstown just to

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<v Speaker 4>give some Southwest Sydney cred.

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<v Speaker 5>But I can tell you the.

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<v Speaker 4>Like anyone who anyone who has written this clearly doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>understand how ween the decorations go up young.

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<v Speaker 5>The decorations basically start going up in September. Yes, you

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<v Speaker 5>go to.

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<v Speaker 4>Ashfield Kmart, they're already pushing Halloween stuff in August like

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<v Speaker 4>it is just it is the biggest seeing of the year.

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<v Speaker 4>Now with kids, they get more excited about this than

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<v Speaker 4>anything else. Yes, that's because they're a bunch of godless

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<v Speaker 4>pagan Satan worshipers. But it's nice because they're kids and

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<v Speaker 4>everything is geared to us. Like you know, you go

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<v Speaker 4>to Camar, everything is like a dollar. It's all plastic,

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<v Speaker 4>it's all despisable. So firstly, if they are actually going

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<v Speaker 4>to put something like this out, for the love of God,

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<v Speaker 4>I at least know your audience, know your rate payers,

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<v Speaker 4>and do it with more than two days to go. Secondly,

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<v Speaker 4>look straw sheep's wool. It's a lot of lannel and

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<v Speaker 4>sounds a bit greasy. It sticks to twigs or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>But organic food waste? How are you meant to use

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<v Speaker 4>organic food waste?

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<v Speaker 1>What to do?

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<v Speaker 5>What I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>I've had I had a live actual part can be

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<v Speaker 4>carved out and actually decomposed and became food waste on

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<v Speaker 4>top of the gate in real time. But it wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>food waste to start with. And then I'm saying food

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<v Speaker 4>the same food white, So what are they I don't

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<v Speaker 4>get it.

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<v Speaker 5>What are we.

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<v Speaker 3>Missing to decorate the house in rotting food?

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<v Speaker 6>What is there not to understand? Look about this.

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<v Speaker 3>Directive from the council, The question is what's next? Are

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<v Speaker 3>you going to tell people don't put up Christmas decorations.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't have fairy lights anymore. That's churning through electricity that

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't be used.

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<v Speaker 6>We've got to.

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<v Speaker 3>Save the planet, seriously, but out of people's lives, especially

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<v Speaker 3>while giving you're a local council, we're going to assume

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<v Speaker 3>you're probably not on top of roads, rates and rubbish,

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<v Speaker 3>because none of you guys are nowadays. So here they

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<v Speaker 3>are lecturing people when, like you say, if any of

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<v Speaker 3>them took a drive through the.

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<v Speaker 6>Inner West, they would have recognized this ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Has already sailed. Okay, people have had their decorations up

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<v Speaker 3>for the better part of a month, and now you

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<v Speaker 3>decide to send out missive to your residents and rate

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<v Speaker 3>payers just to preach at them for having a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of fun, but out of people's lives, And of course

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<v Speaker 3>then they always get the like, oh no, we are

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<v Speaker 3>doing the right thing, by the handful of Karens, who then.

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<v Speaker 6>Get in touch with them and are quoted.

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<v Speaker 3>In this article saying thank you for calling this out,

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<v Speaker 3>can you just please bean it all together next year?

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<v Speaker 6>And speaking of Karens.

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<v Speaker 3>While staying in the Inner West, one lady has taken

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<v Speaker 3>to social media to post to her community at large

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<v Speaker 3>to say, please don't be putting up fake spiders because

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<v Speaker 3>I suffer from arachnophobia, which is a fear of spiders,

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<v Speaker 3>as you most likely already know.

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<v Speaker 6>So please, can everyone just know spiders?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>Check out this neighbor who put a ginormous spider in

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<v Speaker 3>her vicinity not having seen her post. Obviously this wasn't deliberate,

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<v Speaker 3>but she was making reference to it in her post,

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<v Speaker 3>saying I can't even walk down this road anymore. People

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<v Speaker 3>need to take their spiders down.

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<v Speaker 6>Here's a local legend though.

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<v Speaker 3>Defending his neighbors ginormoust Halloween spider.

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<v Speaker 7>This house behind us has sparked a little bit of

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<v Speaker 7>controversy on social media, with some arachnophobes saying they don't

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<v Speaker 7>like the fact that there's a massive spider there and

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<v Speaker 7>it's scary and they can't actually walk past the house.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think about the decorations.

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<v Speaker 8>I think the decorations are fantastic. I believe the decorations

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<v Speaker 8>bring fun to the community, to the kids.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, anybody that says they're enclophobia whatever it's called.

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<v Speaker 8>A few of spiders, Okay, if that spider was real,

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<v Speaker 8>I'd be scared of that spider.

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<v Speaker 6>But that spider's plastic.

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<v Speaker 8>So this complaining about it is just a wage generation.

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<v Speaker 6>It's stupid, and.

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<v Speaker 8>Just enjoy it for what it is, because the person

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<v Speaker 8>who puts it up puts a lot of effort to

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<v Speaker 8>get that up there.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, said Perry, This wokes generation life hard, get a helmet,

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<v Speaker 3>stuck it up, buttock up. But seriously, what's next from

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<v Speaker 3>these councils.

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<v Speaker 6>What are they going to start there.

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<v Speaker 3>Eaching at people saying you've got to buy the toilet

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<v Speaker 3>paper made out of recycled paper.

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<v Speaker 6>These guys just.

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<v Speaker 3>Seem to find ways every single other day to preach

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<v Speaker 3>their own values.

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<v Speaker 4>Sound like you put up you know, you put up

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<v Speaker 4>a plastic spider. You know, you get the Inner West

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<v Speaker 4>council all upset because they think that a plastic spider

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<v Speaker 4>is actually more dangerous and deadly and scary than a

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<v Speaker 4>real spider. I think maybe the Greens have gotten back

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<v Speaker 4>in charge overnight or something and taken over from Darcy,

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<v Speaker 4>and then if you put a real giant spider on

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<v Speaker 4>your house, suddenly their actifobes are upset.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, an answer to your question is whider councils do this?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's easier putting out a missive encouraging people

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<v Speaker 2>to use organic waste for Halloween than it is to

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<v Speaker 2>fill potholes mow lawns in local parks.

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<v Speaker 1>It just strips clean. So it's just.

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<v Speaker 4>Can I say, if people wanted to see organic waste

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<v Speaker 4>and real life skeletons, they could have come to my

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<v Speaker 4>student sharehouse in the nineteen nineties, not just all October

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<v Speaker 4>thirty one, any night of the way you like.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the Climate Council have worn that climate change is

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<v Speaker 2>no Halloween trick, but rather things grim.

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<v Speaker 1>The CSIRO have released.

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<v Speaker 2>Their twenty twenty four report warning of warmer temperatures and

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<v Speaker 2>rising sea levels, which I suppose is why the Prime

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<v Speaker 2>Minister now has a house on the beach front. But

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<v Speaker 2>Climate Council CEO Amanda Mackenzie said climate pollution is hitting

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<v Speaker 2>Australian families hard and the consequences are playing out in

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<v Speaker 2>real time, making our fire seasons longer and the rain

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<v Speaker 2>to arrive in sudden heavy downpaurs. Unfortunately, the State of

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<v Speaker 2>the Climate report is not a Halloween trick. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>grim reminder that we have no time to waste. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a frightening read. She says, one of my favorite parts

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<v Speaker 2>about the Climate Council's take on the CSIRO report is

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<v Speaker 2>they said that every Australian should be scared reading this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a frightening read.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they go on in their press release to

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<v Speaker 2>decry the fact that there is so much existential stress,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly amongst young people worried about climate shape.

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<v Speaker 3>They go on to talk about people's mental health.

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<v Speaker 6>You don't think you might be a driving factor in

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<v Speaker 6>that people.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, you can take this science with a massive

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<v Speaker 3>cup of salt, I would suggest, given it is generated

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<v Speaker 3>by their CSIRO and the Bureau of Meteorology, both government

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<v Speaker 3>funded and therefore sadly taxpayer funded bodies. And I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know about you, but I've looked up enough research to

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<v Speaker 3>know that you can pretty much figure out the outcome

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<v Speaker 3>of any research before it's finished if you just look

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<v Speaker 3>at its funders.

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<v Speaker 6>Would go so far as.

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<v Speaker 3>To say, we're never going to get anything out of

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<v Speaker 3>either of these organizations. That would have said otherwise, it's

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<v Speaker 3>always a matter of which experts you're listening to in

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<v Speaker 3>this space, and we all know that anyone who disagrees

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<v Speaker 3>with them is gagged in a cupboard somewhere and never

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<v Speaker 3>gets to see sunlight.

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<v Speaker 4>You talk about funding leads, but I want to talk

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<v Speaker 4>about fun and the spin doctors that put the fun

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<v Speaker 4>into funding, because everything you can guarantee.

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<v Speaker 5>Just like the Inner West Council.

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<v Speaker 4>Says, let's avoid the horror of single use plastics during

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<v Speaker 4>the spooky season, the Climate Council says, Unfortunately, the State

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<v Speaker 4>of the Climate report is not a Halloween trick.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a grim reminder. It's frightened to it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, just don't do if you're going to just

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<v Speaker 4>scare the Jesus out of people, just do that.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, don't don't do the dad joke y. Just leave

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<v Speaker 5>that to the professional.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want to people to jude you seriously, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>leave Halloween out.

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<v Speaker 6>Of it, but genuinely.

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<v Speaker 4>Will there isn't just a Hollywood sequel with a global conflict.

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<v Speaker 3>We know that roughly forty percent of our main energy

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<v Speaker 3>is already powered by clean energy. We know our inept

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<v Speaker 3>government is getting up that percentage as fast as it

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<v Speaker 3>possibly can.

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<v Speaker 6>What do these people want to do? What more do

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<v Speaker 6>they want from us?

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<v Speaker 3>We are already paying for this green dream every single

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<v Speaker 3>day and every single way.

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<v Speaker 6>Things are only going to get worse. For US power

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<v Speaker 6>prices are only going to get more expensive.

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<v Speaker 3>They're only going to ban the wooden cutlery next because

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<v Speaker 3>all the plastics are gone, et cetera, et cetera, and

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<v Speaker 3>so on. The sacrifices that people are going to be

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<v Speaker 3>continue to be asked to make, despite the fact Australia

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<v Speaker 3>is still only responsible for one point three percent of

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<v Speaker 3>global emissions.

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<v Speaker 6>Reading this report, you'd think we.

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<v Speaker 3>Were at China sitting on thirty five percent of global emissions.

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<v Speaker 6>What more do they want?

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<v Speaker 3>The reason why I think they still generate these things

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<v Speaker 3>is to add credence to what the government is going

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<v Speaker 3>to not only continue to ask from you, but in.

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<v Speaker 2>Single it's parts of the Climate Council precis that really

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<v Speaker 2>amuse me. They say, we are now living in an

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<v Speaker 2>era of climate consequences. What is a climate consequence? It's hot,

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<v Speaker 2>so I wear shorts as a consequence. Talking about that

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<v Speaker 2>perfectly happening climate pollution is hitting Australian family is hard.

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<v Speaker 1>What's climate pollution? I mean, I know exhaust but where

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<v Speaker 1>the pasterns now pollution goes.

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<v Speaker 6>They're not talking.

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<v Speaker 3>About clean air, though, are they They're like, no, it's climate.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think that The problem is that, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure all the facts in this report are true

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever, and politically and psychologically it is just such

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<v Speaker 4>a strut.

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<v Speaker 6>The bomb hasn't gotten any.

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<v Speaker 4>The worst thing you can possibly do as to this

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<v Speaker 4>point is I be climate catastrophs, because then when any

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<v Speaker 4>of your predictions don't come true, this will be all

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<v Speaker 4>over you like a rational a baby and she.

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<v Speaker 5>Like a cheap suit, like a like Al Gore on

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<v Speaker 5>a turkey.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, that's that's a better.

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<v Speaker 4>All over it good point being. And many of my

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<v Speaker 4>other friends who think it's all a lot of bunkom

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<v Speaker 4>as well, will say, well, look, you got this completely wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>Why should we trust any of it?

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<v Speaker 6>And that's what happens, Like all the farmers, you've got

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<v Speaker 6>to from the.

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<v Speaker 5>Really extreme predictions. That's right.

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<v Speaker 4>And the other thing is that it just makes people

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<v Speaker 4>switch off if people think it's all too hard. And

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<v Speaker 4>again studies have been done by this. Political campaigners know it.

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<v Speaker 4>If you say it's all rooted, and no matter what

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<v Speaker 4>you do, it'll still be rooted because we're already dealing

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<v Speaker 4>with the consequences and it's already too late. But you

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<v Speaker 4>still have to ruin your lives to fix it anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>people just say, well, nah, that's instantly goes into the

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<v Speaker 4>too hard basket. And of course people right now are

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<v Speaker 4>thinking about anything but long term consequences or whatever, because

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<v Speaker 4>they're trying to just get both cost of living so

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<v Speaker 4>they'd be much better off. They just said, look, here

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<v Speaker 4>are the things that are doing. Liz just presented the

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<v Speaker 4>fantastic news that we're getting about forty percent of our

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<v Speaker 4>power from renewables because of Chris Bowen's.

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<v Speaker 5>Great works as fast as canon.

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<v Speaker 4>It's going so fast that they're bringing more and more

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<v Speaker 4>projects online a head of schedule, and so you can

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<v Speaker 4>say that to people, and again, I know a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of people won't agree with those projects, but look, this

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<v Speaker 4>is happening. It's going to be okay, And as long

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<v Speaker 4>as we keep doing this, it's going to be all right.

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<v Speaker 6>Why are we.

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<v Speaker 3>Still squandering tax payers which is literal just fabs.

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<v Speaker 5>Humorous bureaucrats and humorless.

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<v Speaker 4>There's an entire industry obviously around this where they just

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<v Speaker 4>need to keep making more dire and die predictions. They

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<v Speaker 4>don't realize it's a form of sort of self perpetuating

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<v Speaker 4>virtue signaling among the kind of bureaucratic, you know, white

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<v Speaker 4>collar left, and they don't realize how off putting it

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<v Speaker 4>is to.

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<v Speaker 5>Everyone else except them.

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<v Speaker 4>And again it's a mistake that you left elites or

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<v Speaker 4>whatever you want to call them make all the time

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<v Speaker 4>where they think everyone just agrees with them. Everyone sits

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<v Speaker 4>around at their dinner parties and talks about how terrible

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<v Speaker 4>climate change is. Everyone reads the post from the Inn

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<v Speaker 4>West Council on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 5>Tam good point. I'm glad someone called this out. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>I imagine thinking I'm glad someone.

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<v Speaker 4>Called out single use Halloween decorations interestinate the Karens.

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<v Speaker 5>But again and the Karens and the climate jeez to

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<v Speaker 5>all the camps. I realized I wrote it. I wrote

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<v Speaker 5>a com about it has to be publish yet.

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<v Speaker 4>But the left doesn't realize how utterly hateable they are

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<v Speaker 4>to everyone else when they go on like this, that

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<v Speaker 4>normal people look at them and just go.

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<v Speaker 5>What the what world are you living? Just go away,

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<v Speaker 5>leave me alone.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean chatter.

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<v Speaker 2>This headline from the Guardian cold start to spring caes

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<v Speaker 2>Australians lose use thirty more gas than last year, even

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<v Speaker 2>though the price was up to and the Guardian report

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<v Speaker 2>this like this is some amazing fare. You people need cheap,

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<v Speaker 2>reliable energy and renewables aren't cheap and they're definitely not

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<v Speaker 2>reliable and it gets completely power.

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<v Speaker 1>But the other thing with this the whole you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's grim. It's not a Halloween trick. It's grim.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time we're talking about Anthony alban

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<v Speaker 2>easy flying all over the world using Quantus frequent flyer points.

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<v Speaker 2>This should scare the mission, and yet we've.

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<v Speaker 1>Got flights everywhere.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sure Alan Joyce offset them for it. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 5>all fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Still going to teacup everybody, does they come on? You

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<v Speaker 4>would to anyway?

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<v Speaker 6>Welcome back to that great.

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<v Speaker 5>Story from pages of the Daily Telegraph today.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely huge albow otherwise obviously doing a fantastic job in

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<v Speaker 4>every single spear that he turns his mind to. Nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 4>the Albanezi government has been likened to Indigenous mission managers,

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<v Speaker 4>which if you want to leave three history books, is

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<v Speaker 4>not a good thing. Who are disregarding the voice of

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<v Speaker 4>Aboriginal communities. An explosive meeting of New South Wales Land Councils. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>this all has to do with a mine near the

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<v Speaker 4>town of Orange or gold mine that was worth about

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<v Speaker 4>a billion dollars. It's called the Blaming Mine. And what

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<v Speaker 4>happened was the local Aboriginal Land Council said, yes, we

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<v Speaker 4>want it.

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<v Speaker 5>It's great, it's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 4>It's going to give us jobs, it's going to generate

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<v Speaker 4>a huge amount of income for the community. It's going

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<v Speaker 4>to make a huge amount of economic benefit for indigenous astrante,

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<v Speaker 4>which is exactly what the PM once. Good on him,

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<v Speaker 4>he said, that's going to be the new practical way

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<v Speaker 4>we move forward now that we don't have the other voice. Fine, fantastic, terrific,

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<v Speaker 4>really really good state government. They had to look at

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<v Speaker 4>it terms absolutely fantastic, awesome, We're we're going to get

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<v Speaker 4>two hundred million bucks worth of royalties. Sweet as what

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<v Speaker 4>could possibly go wrong. We get money. The local Indigenous

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<v Speaker 4>community is happy. Fantastic, fantastic, fantastic. Then at the eleventh hour,

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<v Speaker 4>some random group that no one has ever heard of,

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<v Speaker 4>this random, weird breakaway described as fringe Indigenous, a cultural

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<v Speaker 4>group that again no one's ever heard of, including the

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<v Speaker 4>actual official Indigenous local groups, springs up and says Tania

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<v Speaker 4>Plibu sec Oh, no, there's some kind of weird bluebellied

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<v Speaker 4>bee that no one's ever heard of. And the story

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<v Speaker 4>of the dreaming of this bee takes place near the

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<v Speaker 4>river where this tailings dam of this gold mine is

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<v Speaker 4>going to You're keeping up, everybody is going to be right.

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<v Speaker 4>So an imaginary bee that no one's ever heard of,

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<v Speaker 4>that appears to have been invented by this person, by

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<v Speaker 4>a group no one else, no one ever heard of it.

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<v Speaker 4>But as farisman I has a tiny amount of members,

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<v Speaker 4>and this person is there spokesper is now stopping this

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<v Speaker 4>one billion dollar development. And that is why these people

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<v Speaker 4>are meeting, and that is why they are absolutely filthy,

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<v Speaker 4>because the government, having just promised to deliver economic benefits

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<v Speaker 4>to indigenous communities through economic development, has just done the

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<v Speaker 4>very opposite thing with this decision. And it's entirely based

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<v Speaker 4>on what appears to be an entirely imaginary, without foundation,

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<v Speaker 4>so called dreaming story that none of the other official

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<v Speaker 4>actual Aboriginal elders in the region appear to have heard

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<v Speaker 4>of it.

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<v Speaker 5>And there's more give it to us. It turns out.

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<v Speaker 4>That the woman at the head of this new organization,

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<v Speaker 4>which specializes in Indigenous cultural heritage, used to work at

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<v Speaker 4>the same local Aboriginal land Council that wants to go

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<v Speaker 4>ahead with this mind but spoiler alert, she was an Indigenous,

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<v Speaker 4>or at least she wasn't then she didn't identify despite

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<v Speaker 4>working for the Indigenous Land Council at that time.

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<v Speaker 6>The head of the local Aboriginal Land Council.

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<v Speaker 4>Orange Aboriginal Land Council said at this meeting that she

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<v Speaker 4>was there when this other person worked there, and what

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<v Speaker 4>when she worked for us, she didn't identify as Indigenous

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<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden, now she's an Aboriginal woman, curious

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<v Speaker 4>heir and curious heir.

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<v Speaker 2>So the allegation is that Tenure Plivasek wanted to stop.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't want to bring her name into mine.

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<v Speaker 2>I know people will find this very difficult to believe,

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<v Speaker 2>but apparently she was trying to plus sate Greens in

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<v Speaker 2>her electorate to shore up her own vote.

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<v Speaker 3>So I have to do the work in placate a

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<v Speaker 3>reason plicate was it placate whatever she was to.

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<v Speaker 1>Make them happy?

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<v Speaker 2>And so what with the official local Land Council saying

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<v Speaker 2>we're happy with this mine, She needed to find some

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<v Speaker 2>Indigenous people who were not happy and it didn't matter

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<v Speaker 2>how indigenous or not indigenous.

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<v Speaker 1>They really were.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the big beef that the local Aboriginal Land

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<v Speaker 2>councils now have. They're accusing the government of going out

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<v Speaker 2>and in the words of Nathan Moran from the Metro

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<v Speaker 2>Local Aboriginal Land Council, they're finding stat deck blackfellows.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are his words.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, anybody who will identify as Indigenous support what the

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<v Speaker 2>government already want, and then they'll use that as their

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<v Speaker 2>excuse to cancel developments in order to not help Indigenous

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<v Speaker 2>people but to shore up votes with the Greens.

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<v Speaker 6>And how's this right?

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<v Speaker 3>Because a lot of Indigenous people would be watching this

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<v Speaker 3>play out go well, hang on a minute, even if

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<v Speaker 3>we did get the voice, would you just sweep them

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<v Speaker 3>aside when the decisions.

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<v Speaker 6>That they make aren't up your alley?

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<v Speaker 3>Because that is exactly what the Albanesi government has done

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<v Speaker 3>here the Local Aboriginal Land Council, as Joe explained, the

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<v Speaker 3>state government wanted it, the Local Aboriginal Land Council wanted it.

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<v Speaker 3>This was going to be very good money wise for

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<v Speaker 3>everyone around, everyone involved. And then Plemacet comes along and

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<v Speaker 3>because these randos who claim to be Indigenous, but we're

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<v Speaker 3>told their spokesperson isn't sounds like she could have sour grapes.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my bad, my bad. Then we're just tossed aside.

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<v Speaker 3>So why do you have us Aboriginal land councils. Why

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<v Speaker 3>do you pay us this fake homage? Say that we're

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<v Speaker 3>really important, say that we get to have a very chunky,

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<v Speaker 3>decent say in such matters, and then once we've made

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<v Speaker 3>a decision, you just wipe it.

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<v Speaker 6>Off the table like nothing's happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's Annette Steele speaking at the local Aboriginal Land Council.

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<v Speaker 6>She's the chief executive here.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the line that's made the headline, her accusing

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<v Speaker 3>the Albanese government.

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<v Speaker 6>Of course, Joe wasn't going to go this hard on them, wasn't. No,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm making up for.

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<v Speaker 3>Accusing the Albanese government of being no better than mission

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<v Speaker 3>managers back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a federal decision.

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<v Speaker 3>The federal decision is always out of rule the state.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a bit like.

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<v Speaker 6>Mission managers, you know, yes.

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<v Speaker 3>The state that say to the state, yes, we hear you,

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<v Speaker 3>we know, we understand what you want, and then do

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<v Speaker 3>the exact bloody of a server.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll tell you what you want, We'll tell you what

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<v Speaker 6>you need.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's all you've got.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's my kind of beach to set.

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<v Speaker 1>Off the day.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it's probably cold comfort to the Land council,

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<v Speaker 3>but at least you know you're not being treated any.

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<v Speaker 6>Better than the rest of us.

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<v Speaker 3>That is, that is how all tax pay is here

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<v Speaker 3>in a struck treated.

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<v Speaker 6>We tell them what we want, we get nothing. We

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<v Speaker 6>come with our begg and go we get ignored.

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<v Speaker 3>So listening to that, I was like, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>we often strike up about the lack of equality and

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<v Speaker 3>how Indigenous people get seen to have more of a

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<v Speaker 3>say in different parts and in land councils and all

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<v Speaker 3>sorts of land claims.

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<v Speaker 6>At least in this respect they're being treated exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>Think that's right.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that what you can't say in defense this

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<v Speaker 4>is not an outcome, or this isn't something where Tanya

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<v Speaker 4>Plippers said, right, I've got to find a mind to

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<v Speaker 4>block and I need someone to say it. I think

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<v Speaker 4>she's been played off a break. I think she's under

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<v Speaker 4>obviously a huge amount of pressure from the Greens and

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<v Speaker 4>from get Up in her electorate, which is very very lefty.

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<v Speaker 4>They're constantly protesting against her, sending petitions against her, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think when she saw this come through and thought,

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<v Speaker 4>oh god, this is of indigenous significance, she would have thought,

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<v Speaker 4>oh no, I can't be responsible for another Duke on George. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>Duke and Gorge. You know they're going to kill me

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<v Speaker 4>for it. But I don't think it was something she

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<v Speaker 4>was going out of her way.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she just got panicked.

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<v Speaker 4>I think she panicked and made what she thought was

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<v Speaker 4>a genuinely nice, you know, genuinely thought the right decision.

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<v Speaker 4>But she's been played by these people who do not

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<v Speaker 4>seem to speak for the actual It's.

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<v Speaker 3>So transparently like nobody's not seen through this. One of

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<v Speaker 3>my favorite quobcom and it still was, do not use

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<v Speaker 3>Aboriginal culture as a political tool to over turn decisions

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<v Speaker 3>or use it as a strategic.

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<v Speaker 6>Framework to keep the Greens on side?

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<v Speaker 9>Right?

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<v Speaker 6>What you did it?

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<v Speaker 5>That's right.

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<v Speaker 4>And it does seem to be the case of you know,

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<v Speaker 4>someone from there thinking they're helping out with people, but

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<v Speaker 4>actually not knowing what you're going on.

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<v Speaker 5>Sankfully.

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<v Speaker 4>One government body that does listen to the concerns of

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<v Speaker 4>Indigenous people and arguably to the exclusion of all else, is.

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<v Speaker 5>The Paramatter City Council. Go power power on the ra

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<v Speaker 5>a few times.

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<v Speaker 4>Paramattat City Council has been criticized for having both too

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<v Speaker 4>many strategies but not enough Liberal Council councilor Stephen Issa

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<v Speaker 4>has panned the council's end of term report it's called

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<v Speaker 4>the State of the City Report, having too many strategies

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<v Speaker 4>but not enough practical outcomes categories such as the environment

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<v Speaker 4>and housing. But the real kicker here is the diversity

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<v Speaker 4>category that fell short of solid projects for the fifty

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<v Speaker 4>three percent of people born overseas from one hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>thirty two countries, but only ticked the box of what

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<v Speaker 4>they were doing for indigenous diversity. So well, this a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit of diversity over here, But all the other stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>all the other backgrounds that come from thirty different countries

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<v Speaker 4>and make up a much greater volume of the population,

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<v Speaker 4>we just sort of haven't done anything about. So they

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<v Speaker 4>can only deal with one diversity, which by definition diverse

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<v Speaker 4>they claim.

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<v Speaker 2>They claim they're meeting their diversity targets by doing things

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<v Speaker 2>for zero point eight percent of the population that's the

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<v Speaker 2>indigenous population. In paramatter, one hundred and thirty two countries

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<v Speaker 2>ignored thirty different religions ignored, but zero point eight percent

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<v Speaker 2>of the population some programs for them diversity achieved. The

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<v Speaker 2>other thing that this liberal councilor brought up was that

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<v Speaker 2>they have He said, I'd give the council an a

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<v Speaker 2>plus for strategies, just no outcomes. But he said, they've

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<v Speaker 2>got force strategies for LGBTQ people in Paramatta, but not

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<v Speaker 2>a single strategy for cost of living, trying to help

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<v Speaker 2>people with mortgage stress, anything like that. So thick a

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<v Speaker 2>box issues that councils are committed to. When you dig

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<v Speaker 2>down into the detail, there's nothing there.

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<v Speaker 6>Pure hot air. That is what you are funding with

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<v Speaker 6>your rates.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so sorry to tell you another story of such

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<v Speaker 3>a smuzzle.

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<v Speaker 6>But to the US now where we know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yesterday Joe Biden was caught on camera saying in an

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<v Speaker 3>interview that Trump supporters were garbage. Well, in typical Trump style,

0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:48.040
<v Speaker 3>he's just leaned right into this landing in Wisconsin today

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<v Speaker 3>to start campaigning in what is a crucial swing state.

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<v Speaker 3>He had a Trump branded garbage truck meet him at

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<v Speaker 3>the airport and climb aboard to give this important message.

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<v Speaker 10>I think that the comment pay by really both of them,

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<v Speaker 10>because you're really two of them about being garbage. Maybe

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<v Speaker 10>two hundred and fifty million people, they shouldn't be talking.

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<v Speaker 10>That's like deplorable Vail.

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<v Speaker 5>This is the deplorable Hilary. And I think this is worse.

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<v Speaker 10>Actually, how do you like my garbage truck? This took

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<v Speaker 10>is an honor of Kamala and Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to hand it to his PR team. They

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<v Speaker 3>do not miss anything. Then, of course he took to

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<v Speaker 3>the stage in Wisconsin and still was beating the same drum.

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<v Speaker 10>You can't be president if you hate the American people,

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<v Speaker 10>which I believe they do.

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<v Speaker 6>Is he wrong? Is he wrong?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I love this from Trump and he's still

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<v Speaker 3>got his sanitary outfit, being like.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, I'm a sanitary worker. He was also doing the

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<v Speaker 6>YMCA dance. You know, that jerky dance that he does

0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 6>is very.

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:11.200
<v Speaker 3>Iconic Trump dance, but he left it on the entire

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<v Speaker 3>rally and it's just it's made another iconic Trump moment.

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<v Speaker 3>So while the Dems are calling hundreds of millions of

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<v Speaker 3>Americans trash, He's like, well, I'll show you what trash is.

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<v Speaker 2>Shape demonstrates the difference between Democrats and Republicans in the US.

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:34.359
<v Speaker 2>When when the Democrats get upset, they cry, they riot, they.

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<v Speaker 1>Loot department stores.

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<v Speaker 2>But when the Republicans get upset, they create funny memes.

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<v Speaker 2>They turn it into a joke, and they make light

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<v Speaker 2>of the whole thing.

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 1>People have been.

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<v Speaker 2>Creating all sorts of videos going viral online.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a look at this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone has tweeted, my whole neighborhood has just voted for

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the video evidence. And someone else after.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden said mega supporters a garbage, said here's the.

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<v Speaker 1>Video of me and my mate on our way to

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 1>vote for Trump. Honestly, Joe, when you.

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<v Speaker 2>Respond with humor, you just can't lose. You win the

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<v Speaker 2>argument every time when you respond with human.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, again, that's right.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is exactly the same as Hillary Clinton's deplorables moment,

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<v Speaker 4>where she referred to half of Trump's voters as a

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 4>basket of deplorables. And all of a sudden you saw

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<v Speaker 4>all of social media light up with people changing their

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<v Speaker 4>official their official program deplorable.

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<v Speaker 6>That's right.

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<v Speaker 5>And again, partly.

0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:58.600
<v Speaker 4>Because it's just so absolutely absurd, you see the number

0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 4>of people doing that, you think, well, they can't all

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 4>be deplorables. Otherwise, the whole country is deplorable. And again

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 4>this idea, I mean this idea that the left has

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<v Speaker 4>by sneering at or looking down on their opponents or

0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 4>saying that they're not actually you know, it starts with saying, oh,

0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 4>they're not educated enough. We don't want to say that

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:17.960
<v Speaker 4>they're poor, white trash, they're just not educated enough. And

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 4>they saw that after the Voice referendum result. And then

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<v Speaker 4>it just goes on and on and on until you

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<v Speaker 4>have people saying the quiet bit out loud.

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<v Speaker 5>And this is what Joe Biden does.

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<v Speaker 4>Again, what an amazing intervention from Joe Biden a week

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<v Speaker 4>out less than from the pole. Trump is actually in

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 4>the frame and in a bit of trouble for having

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:39.400
<v Speaker 4>the comedian make the joke about Puerto Rico, and so

0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 4>there's a bit of you know, there's a bit of backlash.

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 4>You know, some people are saying there's hundreds of thousands

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<v Speaker 4>of Puerto Ricans in you know, say Pennsylvania for example,

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<v Speaker 4>and this could maybe turn that swing start. It's about

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 4>the only hope that Kamla Harris has got. I mean, honestly,

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 4>if you're pinning all your hopes on that, good luck.

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 5>But who knows.

0:30:57.200 --> 0:30:59.760
<v Speaker 4>Praying for a miracle, the closest she's actually got to

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:02.720
<v Speaker 4>maybe just pulling off Americal win. And what is Joe

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:07.640
<v Speaker 4>Biden ther He says, oh help, and don't forget.

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 2>He said that when she's giving a speech talking about

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<v Speaker 2>how we need to unite Americans by to stop pointing

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<v Speaker 2>fingers and instead join arms.

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:16.960
<v Speaker 6>Contradicted in the same brank.

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<v Speaker 1>But Biden did not help, by the and they don't

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:21.000
<v Speaker 1>garb it.

0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:22.480
<v Speaker 5>But this is the thing that they do.

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<v Speaker 4>They have been so utterly and this is just the

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:29.760
<v Speaker 4>latest in the most catastrophically incompetent campaign from two of

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 4>the most catastrophically incompetent and yet somehow incredibly vain and

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 4>egotistical people I have ever seen in politics anywhere ever.

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 4>And the Democrats cannot be rewarded for this. The Democrats

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<v Speaker 4>have to lose this election for the sake of American democracy,

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:47.680
<v Speaker 4>because if they think that they can pull this off

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 4>and get their levers on the nuclear codes and their

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 4>hands on the most powerful nation on the planet after

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 4>such absolute incompetence, making the wrong decision after wrong decision

0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 4>every single step of the way, from using the courts

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:02.840
<v Speaker 4>to prosecuting him from failing to tell Joe Biden that

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<v Speaker 4>he had to step down when they had the chance,

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:08.240
<v Speaker 4>then being too late after public blasting, and then putting

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<v Speaker 4>in the worst possible candidate, the candidate who did worst

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 4>in the Democratic primaries leading up to twenty two. We

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<v Speaker 4>ever got Albacamo effectively installed as president without having to

0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:20.040
<v Speaker 4>go through any primary at all in the next election.

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<v Speaker 5>This is madness.

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 4>And these guys say that Trump is a threat to democracy,

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 4>and these guys have been pissing all over the.

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<v Speaker 3>Another reason, another reason why these guys have to lose,

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<v Speaker 3>if that brilliant tirade wasn't enough for you, is all

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:37.560
<v Speaker 3>their campaigning on is lies.

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 6>While Trump is on.

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<v Speaker 3>The ground in Wisconsin doing his best to win over

0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 3>the swing state, so is Kamala Harris. And look what

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 3>she's telling this rally here. You will remember every single

0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 3>one of these talking points that she's making in the

0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 3>clip you're about to see, Trump has denounced repeatedly ad nauseum,

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 3>and less than a week out to the election, it's

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 3>still all.

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<v Speaker 6>They've got outright lies.

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<v Speaker 9>He would ban abortion nationwide, yes even here in Wisconsin,

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<v Speaker 9>and he would restrict access to birth control. But IVF

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<v Speaker 9>treatments at risk.

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<v Speaker 3>What are you talking about, lady, the Trump administration. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just freaking it into being power of the spoken word.

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 3>The Trump camp has said from the very beginning, because

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 3>the Marla campaign has been beating this drum as soon

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 3>as the feet hit the ground in this campaign, and

0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 3>the Trump campaign has been batting away these allegations from

0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 3>the very beginning. Here we are days out to polling

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 3>day and they're still just telling out right lies. Are

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 3>we talking about such a highly emotive issue. They know

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:55.960
<v Speaker 3>that they can still get votes out.

0:33:56.080 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 2>I got confused for a second. Are were talking about

0:33:57.720 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 2>the American election or the Queensland election? It is a

0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 2>little bit rare similar. I mean, Donald Trump is not

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 2>banning abortion, as you said. He gave the decision back

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 2>to the people by allowing the state and make that decision.

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:13.840
<v Speaker 2>So when it comes to the Democrats, black is white,

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 2>up is down. Everything is topsy turvy with them. They

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:20.479
<v Speaker 2>accuse him of violating democracy when he's the one trying

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:23.640
<v Speaker 2>to give decisions back to the people. They're the ones

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 2>lying and trying to impose their will upon people without

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:31.520
<v Speaker 2>opportunity for them to vote. Just before we go to

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<v Speaker 2>a break, I need you guys to help me with

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<v Speaker 2>my Netflix viewing, because there's a program on Netflix at

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 2>the moment that is very popular. People have recommended it

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:43.480
<v Speaker 2>to me. I have not watched it yet. The Mendez brothers, Menandez,

0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 2>who apparently murdered their parents, and so the Netflix series

0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:50.120
<v Speaker 2>goes into all of that. But now there's news that

0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 2>because of that series and the publicity generated, yes, they

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:57.360
<v Speaker 2>could actually be released from prison though they murdered their parents.

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<v Speaker 1>Help me understand this and do I need to watch

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 1>this program?

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<v Speaker 3>So this was back in the eighties, Correct me if

0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:05.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm wrong, Joe. They did indeed murder their parents. That

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 3>wasn't in any dispute.

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<v Speaker 6>They agreed, yes, we tiled our parents.

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<v Speaker 3>But then what came out in the original trial was

0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 3>that well, actually the original trial fell over. The next

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:21.920
<v Speaker 3>trial they alleged that they had been sexually abused by

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 3>their parents.

0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:25.279
<v Speaker 6>And now given is actually a.

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 3>Really interesting study in how society has changed over time,

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:34.799
<v Speaker 3>because over the last forty years, people's awareness understanding of

0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:41.719
<v Speaker 3>sexual abuse, especially towards children, has changed exponentially, grown massively,

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:45.719
<v Speaker 3>and so now you've got all this awareness raising by

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:48.960
<v Speaker 3>these Netflix programs. One of them's a movie, so it's

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<v Speaker 3>a a docrum, yes at dramatization, and another one is

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<v Speaker 3>a documentary and you're listening to the brothers speak from jail.

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<v Speaker 3>So this has raised a heap of awareness about their case.

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 3>In particular, there's people holding rallies outside of courts and

0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 3>the jail in which the brothers have been for a

0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:10.680
<v Speaker 3>very long time now, saying set them free, set them free.

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 3>So just last week they were granted approval to basically

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<v Speaker 3>be resentenced. Have they done the time? The sticky part

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 3>in all of this is there's no proof. How could

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<v Speaker 3>you possibly have proof of allegations of sexual assault that

0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 3>date back to the eighties. The parents are obviously dead,

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:36.320
<v Speaker 3>so they can't bring a case to defend themselves. It's

0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 3>a very very interesting one to watch, and I do

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:43.839
<v Speaker 3>recommend watching it because you yourself are torn as more

0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:46.760
<v Speaker 3>and more facts come to lights as you keep watching

0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 3>the episode.

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<v Speaker 5>Isn't it.

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:51.280
<v Speaker 4>It's a weird kind of and I make no pronouncement

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 4>on their yellow innocence, but it's a weird. It's actually

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 4>a kind of incredibly sophisticated trial by media, like would

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<v Speaker 4>actually say, countless cases in recent years where if there's

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:02.879
<v Speaker 4>someone out of jail who you think should be in jail,

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:05.279
<v Speaker 4>you just make a podcast or a Netflix series about them,

0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:07.760
<v Speaker 4>and in they go, And that's happened. If there's someone

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<v Speaker 4>in jail who you think should be out of jail,

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:11.920
<v Speaker 4>you just make a Netflix series or a podcast about them,

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:12.799
<v Speaker 4>and out they come.

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:13.480
<v Speaker 5>And you know.

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<v Speaker 6>It didn't work for the making of a murderer guy.

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:18.919
<v Speaker 4>No, but it did work for ad Nan said who

0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:23.880
<v Speaker 4>who the first real sort of massive true crime podcast serial.

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:27.359
<v Speaker 4>They went through it in a Baltimore case I think

0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:29.759
<v Speaker 4>it was, and he I believe, got released. And it

0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:33.400
<v Speaker 4>worked for the Teacher's Pet Headley Thomas's podcast for The Australian,

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:36.000
<v Speaker 4>in which a guy who'd been out of you know,

0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:40.960
<v Speaker 4>walking free for decades, suddenly after this podcast and amazing,

0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 4>like terminator like reporting back in he goes.

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<v Speaker 5>So pair of Project Media, huh, we're going to go.

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<v Speaker 1>To a break.

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<v Speaker 2>When we come back, we'll look at what's making news tomorrow,

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:54.680
<v Speaker 2>including Anthony Albanezi trying to reassure his MPs there's nothing

0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 2>to worry about with the Quantus Frequent flyer fiasco.

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<v Speaker 1>Well we'll see in just a moment. Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 2>Well as if it's not bad enough that power prices

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:07.920
<v Speaker 2>are going up. Water prices are going up in Sydney

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<v Speaker 2>as well, Joe.

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:10.480
<v Speaker 1>That's on the front page of tomorrow's Telegraph.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, that's absolutely right.

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:14.400
<v Speaker 4>The greatest newspaper in the universe is leading with the

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:18.960
<v Speaker 4>story Bill Shock on Tap, which is also the first

0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:21.279
<v Speaker 4>time I believe the Telly has used the phrase Bill

0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:25.600
<v Speaker 4>Shock in a splash without referring to Bill Shorten. So remember,

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<v Speaker 4>but water changes to jump fifty percent in population, but

0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:31.399
<v Speaker 4>water bells are set to jump by more than fifty

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<v Speaker 4>percent over the next five years to keep up with

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:36.240
<v Speaker 4>Sydney's booming population growth.

0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:37.239
<v Speaker 5>And that's obviously the.

0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:41.760
<v Speaker 4>Cost associated with building all the new infrastructure and upgrading.

0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:44.120
<v Speaker 4>I've got to tell you, I accidentally looked at my

0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:48.359
<v Speaker 4>power bill the other day and they are just going.

0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:49.439
<v Speaker 5>Through the room.

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 4>I've been deliberately just thinking, I can't even bear to

0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:54.280
<v Speaker 4>think about it. I know that we're hemorrhaging money and stuff,

0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:58.640
<v Speaker 4>but that does not surprise me. Fifty percent in five years,

0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:01.640
<v Speaker 4>it seems that every ut was just going shower once

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 4>a week, burn bom, boom.

0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:06.239
<v Speaker 6>Nothing for the garden, And why already.

0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 2>Shower once a week people keep people keep being assured

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:11.839
<v Speaker 2>that the government's doing everything they can about cost of living,

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:13.799
<v Speaker 2>and then you keep waking up to headlines like this.

0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:17.359
<v Speaker 4>Although it has to be said that inflation has come down,

0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:20.640
<v Speaker 4>it is two point eight percent and otherloid power bills

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:24.319
<v Speaker 4>and fuel especially among those things that are falling. So

0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:26.319
<v Speaker 4>a bit of good news, but still no rate cut

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<v Speaker 4>till after Christmas.

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<v Speaker 6>Until I feel it at the Bowser.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying hallelujah to the front page of the

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<v Speaker 3>odds Now. Mainstream versus elite chasm widens ahead of federal

0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:37.759
<v Speaker 3>election fight.

0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:39.560
<v Speaker 6>The wadening gulf.

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:43.520
<v Speaker 3>Between Australia's elite and mainstream classes is carving out a

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<v Speaker 3>two speed electuate, forcing Anthony Albanezi and Peter Dutton to

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<v Speaker 3>shore up some more support among splintering voter bases in

0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:57.120
<v Speaker 3>previously safe Alp and Coalition heartlands.

0:39:57.200 --> 0:39:58.399
<v Speaker 6>Love a good class war.

0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:02.880
<v Speaker 3>Nothing makes a elections more interesting than a good class war.

0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 6>And have we got that? Have we got that illustration?

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:07.879
<v Speaker 6>Can you see that at home?

0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 3>Maybe too small, but the numbers are extremely interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>It's huge.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so what we're seeing And again people, I've been

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:15.760
<v Speaker 4>warning about it for years.

0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:17.879
<v Speaker 5>You look at what's happening in America and Trump where

0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:18.200
<v Speaker 5>you have.

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<v Speaker 4>Workers, people of lower education, lower incomes, they are turning

0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:27.480
<v Speaker 4>away from the labor or labor aligned parties that are

0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:30.600
<v Speaker 4>supposed to be representing them and turning to populous candidates,

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<v Speaker 4>and reflected in the Brexit result, was reflected in Trump's

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<v Speaker 4>twenty sixteen results, I suspectedly reflected in Trump's twenty twenty

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:40.439
<v Speaker 4>four result. And it's what's happening in Australia as well,

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<v Speaker 4>where you're seeing, for example, Peter Dutton and the Coalition

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 4>because they're sort of more muscular now, they don't have

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 4>to worry about all those LATI DA Teel seats and

0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 4>they're able to appeal more directly to tradees for example.

0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:55.239
<v Speaker 4>So trade is blue collar workers are now sweeing to done. Now,

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 4>if blue collar workers are actually turning away from the

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:02.360
<v Speaker 4>labor Party, well that it's just not the labor party anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just not so sure that it's an issue of

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<v Speaker 2>education or wage. There's a lot of people whose success

0:41:09.200 --> 0:41:13.360
<v Speaker 2>depends on, you know, complying with the narrative, right, So

0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:17.360
<v Speaker 2>the division here elites are more likely to support strong

0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 2>action on climate change than non elites. The elites are

0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:24.239
<v Speaker 2>more likely to say that migration is a great thing

0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:27.480
<v Speaker 2>that's making the country better, as opposed to non elites

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:31.400
<v Speaker 2>who say that they believe immigration is changing the country

0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:35.520
<v Speaker 2>and they fundamentally don't like it. It's the elites who

0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:37.799
<v Speaker 2>are more likely to say safety and crime is not

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<v Speaker 2>so much of a problem than the non elites who

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:42.879
<v Speaker 2>say this is a big problem. When you get people

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<v Speaker 2>working in the public service, the art, certain sections of

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 2>the media, climate change, immigration, all those things, I mean,

0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:52.080
<v Speaker 2>you've got to toe that lot.

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<v Speaker 5>Reason it's otherwise.

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<v Speaker 4>The reason it's linked to education and wiage is because

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<v Speaker 4>if you've got a tertiary education, you're far more likely

0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:01.160
<v Speaker 4>to believe in all that stuff that we just mentioned.

0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:04.240
<v Speaker 4>You're far more likely to earn more money. That means

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:06.400
<v Speaker 4>you are more likely to live in a nice area

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:09.600
<v Speaker 4>where you are less likely exposed to shrime. It means

0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:11.799
<v Speaker 4>you're more likely to live in a big house in

0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 4>a less crowded area, which means that immigration is less

0:42:14.960 --> 0:42:17.200
<v Speaker 4>of an issue for you. It means you're comfortable enough

0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:19.440
<v Speaker 4>to be able to afford to worry about things like

0:42:19.480 --> 0:42:21.960
<v Speaker 4>climate change because you're not worried about the cost of.

0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:22.799
<v Speaker 5>Living in the here and now.

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<v Speaker 4>And the kicker I think is you're also more likely

0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:28.759
<v Speaker 4>to be as white as a polar bear in the snowstorm,

0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:32.719
<v Speaker 4>which means that you are not first or second generation

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:37.160
<v Speaker 4>migrant families yourself who might have very old fashioned or

0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:41.880
<v Speaker 4>traditional or conservative social values. So things like LGBTQUI. However

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 4>many letters there are now stuff you think is just ridiculous.

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:47.280
<v Speaker 4>You know, you're a Greek Orthodox, or you're a Muslim

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:49.920
<v Speaker 4>or whatever it may be. So I think that is

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:51.600
<v Speaker 4>why it sort of plays into those things. And we

0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:53.160
<v Speaker 4>saw with the Voice, and that's all you have to

0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:55.800
<v Speaker 4>do is look at the vost The whitest, and richest

0:42:56.200 --> 0:42:58.640
<v Speaker 4>and most tertiary educated electorates were all the ones that

0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:01.080
<v Speaker 4>voted for your voice, whereas all the battlers, or the

0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:03.040
<v Speaker 4>migrants or the working classes.

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<v Speaker 2>Right all the public service Canberra was the only Judah

0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:09.719
<v Speaker 2>poshernis that's right that we voted, which fits almost.

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<v Speaker 5>Personally a dead rap ven diagram.

0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:13.760
<v Speaker 4>I mean, Camber's got the highest Greens vote, the highest

0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:14.520
<v Speaker 4>Progressive vote and.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything absolutely to the second splash on the front of

0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:20.479
<v Speaker 3>the oars. The PM is really we're almost a week

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:24.360
<v Speaker 3>in to his Quantus scandal and he's still now trying

0:43:24.360 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 3>to convince his party room. Oh it's nothing, nothing to it.

0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 3>PM tell's ministers Anthony Albanezi, whos sought to reassure his

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:36.560
<v Speaker 3>ministers the Quantus flights upgrade controversy will blow over, while

0:43:36.680 --> 0:43:39.799
<v Speaker 3>unable to say if anyone in his office requested an

0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:43.440
<v Speaker 3>upgrade on his behalf with the Labor MPs frustrated the

0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:47.400
<v Speaker 3>government's message is being stifled just months out from an election,

0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 3>the Prime Minister told a meeting of his full ministry

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 3>yesterday that he had done nothing wrong and was the

0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:58.480
<v Speaker 3>victim of unfair media reporting. Now we barely know anything

0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:01.000
<v Speaker 3>because every time the PM tells is something, it just

0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:03.880
<v Speaker 3>raises a lot more questions. But one thing that he

0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:10.000
<v Speaker 3>has said is that I never called Alan Joyce to

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:14.480
<v Speaker 3>ask for these freebes. Well tonight here on Sky News

0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:18.720
<v Speaker 3>we have an exclusive a recording of that call between

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:20.600
<v Speaker 3>the Prime Minister and Joyce.

0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:26.640
<v Speaker 5>Alan hel Alan, I don't eat any enough.

0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:31.440
<v Speaker 6>Allen Allen, Allen, Allen, Allen.

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 3>You heard it here First lives, Lives and more lives

0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:38.160
<v Speaker 3>from answer and.

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<v Speaker 5>We can do investigtive journalism too.

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<v Speaker 2>The fact that Anthony Albanezi is meeting with his ministers

0:44:43.760 --> 0:44:47.120
<v Speaker 2>and the first point of business is to reassure them,

0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:48.680
<v Speaker 2>don't worry about the quantus.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll blow blow over.

0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Shows that this is a major issue. The first thing

0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:55.839
<v Speaker 2>they're talking about is not cost of living anything else.

0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:59.760
<v Speaker 6>It's this being a labor MP and a marginal seat.

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<v Speaker 3>Be like, oh, that's so reassuring, thanks, Prime Minister.

0:45:03.920 --> 0:45:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if it was going to blow over, he wouldn't

0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:07.880
<v Speaker 2>be talking about it. The reason he's talking about is

0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:09.560
<v Speaker 2>because he's worried it won't. Let's go to the front

0:45:09.560 --> 0:45:13.400
<v Speaker 2>page of the Townsville bulletin. Premier vows to act on mayor.

0:45:13.920 --> 0:45:17.839
<v Speaker 2>Townsville deserves so much better, christ Fully says, proud city

0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:21.880
<v Speaker 2>dragged through the mud thanks to the mayor. David christa

0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Fully has given his clearest indication yet he's prepared to

0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:27.839
<v Speaker 2>move on Townshell's embattled mayor, saying Troy Thompson has left

0:45:27.840 --> 0:45:31.239
<v Speaker 2>the city with a tarnished reputation. Mister chris Fully says

0:45:31.239 --> 0:45:33.680
<v Speaker 2>he was really looking forward to receiving legal advice on

0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:36.400
<v Speaker 2>what steps his government can take next.

0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:40.440
<v Speaker 2>The current mayor of Townsville is under investigation by the

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Crime and Corruption commission because he apparently made false statements

0:45:45.200 --> 0:45:50.320
<v Speaker 2>about his military record, his university outcomes, and his business

0:45:50.400 --> 0:45:52.239
<v Speaker 2>qualifications when he.

0:45:52.200 --> 0:45:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Was campaigning for the role of mayor.

0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:59.520
<v Speaker 2>So the Labor government under Stephen Miles issued him with

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:02.600
<v Speaker 2>a show cause. He responded to that, but then of

0:46:02.600 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 2>course the government went in the caretaker modes.

0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:07.040
<v Speaker 1>So now it's sitting on David cru Fooley's desk.

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<v Speaker 2>David Krusa Fuley is a former deputy mayor of Townsville,

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<v Speaker 2>so I would suggest he would be personally.

0:46:13.280 --> 0:46:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Motivated to get this thing sorted.

0:46:16.400 --> 0:46:18.920
<v Speaker 4>Actually, it's a little bit more complex than that. The

0:46:19.320 --> 0:46:22.520
<v Speaker 4>former premier, Stephen Miles, asked Troy Thompson, the mayor, to

0:46:22.800 --> 0:46:24.879
<v Speaker 4>show cause, and the mayor did in fact show cause,

0:46:24.880 --> 0:46:28.799
<v Speaker 4>but it turns out the cause was also fake. I

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<v Speaker 4>just love quickly pull up the front page again. I

0:46:31.920 --> 0:46:34.160
<v Speaker 4>just love the fact that this guy, the mayor, just

0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:37.360
<v Speaker 4>has a permanent bit of real estate on the Townsville

0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:39.760
<v Speaker 4>board in front page. That little inset in the bottom

0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:41.920
<v Speaker 4>right hand corner has been on the front page of

0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:47.279
<v Speaker 4>the towns pretty much every day. Like the substate think, yeah,

0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:48.040
<v Speaker 4>we'll just leave it on.

0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:51.040
<v Speaker 2>We're going to go to a break fit stick around

0:46:51.080 --> 0:46:54.240
<v Speaker 2>because coming up Joe Biden biting babies.

0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:59.759
<v Speaker 1>Of course it's coming up in a moment. Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember when Donald Trump said that migrants in Ohio were

0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:07.040
<v Speaker 2>eating the cats and eating the dogs, Joe Biden said,

0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:08.200
<v Speaker 2>hold my beer.

0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:21.640
<v Speaker 3>Now.

0:47:21.760 --> 0:47:25.359
<v Speaker 2>In fairness to Joe Biden, the baby was dressed as

0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:25.840
<v Speaker 2>a chicken.

0:47:25.920 --> 0:47:27.239
<v Speaker 1>Perhaps he got confused.

0:47:27.280 --> 0:47:30.240
<v Speaker 2>And in addition to that, Biden's dog Major has bitten

0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:32.520
<v Speaker 2>people twenty four times in the White House, so it

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<v Speaker 2>runs in the field.

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<v Speaker 3>There is no excuse for that, especially for the old

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<v Speaker 3>man we all know best as a child sniffer. Google

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<v Speaker 3>that if you haven't watched the creepiest compilation of the

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<v Speaker 3>man who is currently leader of the free world. But

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<v Speaker 3>get this and ABC American station had a little grab

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<v Speaker 3>during their coverage of the gwand PRIX on Sunday. Sorry

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<v Speaker 3>the Mexican Guandprix, nobody freak out, you haven't missed out,

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<v Speaker 3>saying that Kamala had one Pennsylvania just magically, somehow, ten

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<v Speaker 3>days in advance, fifty two percent of the votes apparently

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<v Speaker 3>she got, compared to forty seven percent for Republican challenger

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump. There you can see it down the bottom

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<v Speaker 3>of your screen. Is this a prediction? Is the world

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<v Speaker 3>but a stage? What is going on here? Of course,

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<v Speaker 3>the conspiracy theorists are now sounding cancel the election.

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<v Speaker 4>Now it's fine, but you see that up is embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 4>Check out the results. In nineteen forty eight, when incumbent

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<v Speaker 4>President Harry S. Truman pulled up a shock victory, the

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<v Speaker 4>New York Times decided they'd go to Chicago Daily Tribune,

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<v Speaker 4>I should say, decided they were. You know, it's all

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<v Speaker 4>done and dusted, No way can come back. Dewey defeats Trumans,

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<v Speaker 4>I say, Harry S. Truman thought that was pretty sweet.

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<v Speaker 6>Indeed is Truman grinning of the rock law?

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's all we've got time for. But don't go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming right up is the Ride Pendity Show. Good night,