WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 18 July

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<v Speaker 1>Lately, General Man, welcome to the late Debates.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, great to have your company on the Late Debate.

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<v Speaker 2>James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Caleb Bond. We all

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<v Speaker 2>know climate catastrophists want us to eat meat grown in

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<v Speaker 2>a lab, but it's going to get worse. They want

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<v Speaker 2>us to eat butter, milk and cheese grown in a

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<v Speaker 2>lab as well. We'll talk about that a little later

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<v Speaker 2>if we can bear it. Plus, when we look at

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<v Speaker 2>the papers, Queensland labor on track to record their worst

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<v Speaker 2>vote in one hundred and thirty one years come the

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<v Speaker 2>October election, and the Department of Defense and Veterans Affairs

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<v Speaker 2>accused of ignoring concerns about soldiers who've been exposed to

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<v Speaker 2>brain injuries because of explosions. But first, Joe Biden, interviewed yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>said there is only one reason he would ever consider

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<v Speaker 2>dropping out of the US presidential race.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there anything that you would look to you personally,

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<v Speaker 3>not anybody else, not other pundits, not even perhaps family

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<v Speaker 3>members that you would look to to say, if I

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<v Speaker 3>see that, I will reevaluate.

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<v Speaker 4>If some medical condition it emerged, if somebody, if doctors

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<v Speaker 4>came to me said you got this problem.

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<v Speaker 5>That problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the Lord works in mysterious ways, because just twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four hours later, Lo and behold, I was just on the.

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<v Speaker 6>Phone with President Biden and he shared his deep disappointment

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<v Speaker 6>at not being able to join us this afternoon. He

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<v Speaker 6>just tested positive for COVID.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, this shock diagnosis came at the same time that

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<v Speaker 2>Nancy Pelosi shared data showing he would be smashed by

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<v Speaker 2>Trump in a November election, and longtime supporter Chuck Schumer

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<v Speaker 2>reportedly advised him he needs to step aside. All of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, he's got COVID. But the COVID wasn't so

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<v Speaker 2>bad that he couldn't breathe all over restaurant patrons and

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<v Speaker 2>his own secret service. You tell Joe Biden is a

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<v Speaker 2>one man super spreaders.

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<v Speaker 7>These are live images of predident Biden in Las Vegas?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you so?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm just sort of giving the thumbs upright there? So again,

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<v Speaker 7>he has tested positive for COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>They say he.

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<v Speaker 7>Had a running nose, that he was not feeling well

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<v Speaker 7>early today. Oh and he's gone up those steps. It

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<v Speaker 7>looks like he paused there just a moment, didn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Calebin Liz. It's all just a little too convenient, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 5>Where's his musk? Joe much gone? Joe, Seriously, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 5>He does not have COVID. I do not believe that

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<v Speaker 5>Joe Biden has COVID. This is the equivalent of when

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<v Speaker 5>we talk about euthanasia, people talk about dying with dignity.

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<v Speaker 5>This is killing his with dignity because he's already set

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<v Speaker 5>it up. He said, if the doctor says that I

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<v Speaker 5>should should get out of the race, that's the one

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<v Speaker 5>thing that causes me to get out of the race.

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<v Speaker 5>He now goes off for a week. He comes back

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<v Speaker 5>in a week. The doctors have told me that I'm

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<v Speaker 5>poorly and that I cannot campaign to the fullness of

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<v Speaker 5>my ability. Therefore I have to drop out. I'm convinced

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<v Speaker 5>that's what's going on here, because why was he getting roud?

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<v Speaker 5>So that restaurant footage was like just before it was

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<v Speaker 5>announced that he had COVID. So he's in an enclosed space,

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<v Speaker 5>shaking hands, breathing all over people. Right, So did he

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<v Speaker 5>wake up in the morning and go, ah, feel a

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<v Speaker 5>bit off, but it's okay. I'm going to go out

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<v Speaker 5>and campaign and then later today I'll tell people I

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<v Speaker 5>have COVID or did he not have COVID And then

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<v Speaker 5>they just sort of dropped that one out of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 5>And then you see the footage of him going up

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<v Speaker 5>well barely going up the stairs onto the plane there,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's you know, you could argue he's either got

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<v Speaker 5>the worst case of COVID ever.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, now that's just normal stare climbing.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's normal stair climbing for batter I don't think

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<v Speaker 5>he has COVID.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all calculated absolutely. I mean, he's going to drop out,

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<v Speaker 2>not because of his terrible debate performance, not because of

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<v Speaker 2>the polls. He's going to do it for the good

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<v Speaker 2>of the country because he must defeat tradical condition campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>Medical condition, because Alzheimer's in Parkinson's wasn't enough of a

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<v Speaker 1>medical condition for him to resign gracefully. But check out

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<v Speaker 1>the lovies on CSNBC, Joy Reid and Jim Saki saying, well,

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<v Speaker 1>hang in a minute, if Biden pulls up from this,

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<v Speaker 1>then he's just as triumphant as Trump is after surviving

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<v Speaker 1>a bullet. Check it out.

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<v Speaker 8>Donald Trump is an elderly man who, for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 8>was given nine seconds to take a iconic photo ap

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<v Speaker 8>during an active shooter of that situation.

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<v Speaker 5>Weird situation.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll figure that out one day.

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<v Speaker 8>But his survival of that and bouncing right back and

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<v Speaker 8>going right to his convention is being conveyed in the

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<v Speaker 8>media world as a sign of strength. This current president

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<v Speaker 8>of the United States is eighty one years old and

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<v Speaker 8>has COVID. Should he be fine in a couple of days?

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<v Speaker 8>Doesn't that convey exactly the same thing that he's strong

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<v Speaker 8>enough older than Trump to have gotten something that used

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<v Speaker 8>to really be fatal to people his age. So if

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<v Speaker 8>he does fine out of it and comes back and

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<v Speaker 8>is able to do rallies, isn't that exactly the same

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<v Speaker 8>Do me a favor.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump survives a bullet and it doesn't take him out.

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<v Speaker 1>Biden has been stopped by a virus, and they would

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<v Speaker 1>have you believe, oh well, Sang sang, apples and apples.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, the internet wasted no time in meming this

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<v Speaker 1>up to the max, putting Biden's head on what was

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's iconic photo with instead of the American flag waving

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<v Speaker 1>in the background, the LGBTQ flag. I've beat COVID, therefore

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<v Speaker 1>I two and pumping my fist in victory and everyone

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<v Speaker 1>should respect me just as much. But of course the

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<v Speaker 1>two camps now are chalk and cheese. You've got the Republicans.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen them this united. This is the most

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<v Speaker 1>united Republican National Conference you've ever seen. They are all

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<v Speaker 1>rallying behind Trump, zero division, everyone's just glad he's alive.

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<v Speaker 1>Even his former haters are taking the stage at the

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<v Speaker 1>RNC to say, I give this man my full endorsement. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got the Democrats, who one by one in the

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<v Speaker 1>previous weeks have been saying, we're actually begging our leader

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<v Speaker 1>to resign. I mean, there is no apples compared with apples.

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<v Speaker 1>As much as MSNBC is obviously trying to appeal to

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<v Speaker 1>the lowest common dominator America, he's a similar hero if

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<v Speaker 1>he survives COVID. It's just not working, and the polls

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<v Speaker 1>show that loud and clear.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine the Democratic Convention with Biden. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's going to be waiting for him to die mid speech.

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<v Speaker 2>But they definitely need something to change things up because

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<v Speaker 2>the Republicans have got all the momentum. They can't go

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<v Speaker 2>with Biden. They need something completely different that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>invigorate support going to generate interest and talk.

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<v Speaker 5>Trouble is, I don't think they will get something completely different.

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<v Speaker 5>They'll probably get Kamala Harris. And the problem for the

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<v Speaker 5>Dems at the moment is that why would you, if

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<v Speaker 5>you're someone of talent within the Dems, why would you

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<v Speaker 5>want to put yourself up to run against Trump? Right now?

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<v Speaker 5>You would feel like you're literally just a lamb to

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<v Speaker 5>the slaughter. I'm going to be sacrificed here for the

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<v Speaker 5>good of the party. You don't really want to do that.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't want to burn gas you have in the

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<v Speaker 5>tank that you could then spend in twenty twenty eight, when,

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<v Speaker 5>of course Trump won't be part of the equation anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think you do just end up with Kamala.

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<v Speaker 5>And I know when Dan Tomorrow was talking about before

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<v Speaker 5>on PML that Kamala probably will play better with suburban

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<v Speaker 5>women and some demographics. But that doesn't mean that she

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<v Speaker 5>makes up enough to go and beat Donald Trump. But

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<v Speaker 5>how desperate are they to be running lines like Joe

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<v Speaker 5>Biden beating COVID, a virus that has a survival rate

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<v Speaker 5>of somewhere around ninety nine percent, And I know it

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<v Speaker 5>gets worse as you get on. But a virus with

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<v Speaker 5>a survival rate of about ninety nine percent is equal

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<v Speaker 5>to a bloke who nearly copped a bullet in the head.

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<v Speaker 5>He is a hero if he gets up in a

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<v Speaker 5>week's time and is like, I beat COVID. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>I just thought that was a thing that people did

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<v Speaker 5>in normal life. Right, well done, Joe, Oh you'd a

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<v Speaker 5>shnookems you did such a good job. Like It's got

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<v Speaker 5>scenes of Jill after the debate where she went on

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<v Speaker 5>stage and was like, you answered all the questions, you

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<v Speaker 5>had all the answers, like your beat COVID buddy?

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<v Speaker 2>Who I mean Donald Trump took a bullet for the

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<v Speaker 2>country and Joe Biden took a sneeze for the country

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<v Speaker 2>that same.

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<v Speaker 1>Same I could barely tell the difference. Well you can

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<v Speaker 1>tell the difference, though, is watching this man either get

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<v Speaker 1>upstairs or get downstairs? Here he is also after the

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<v Speaker 1>COVID announcement, the president is very sick. Everyone read alert.

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<v Speaker 1>He's disembarking Air Force one. In this footage at one

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<v Speaker 1>point he stops and kind of goes goys, no hands.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's just incredible. You can see he

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<v Speaker 1>is struggling, kind of pretending to be waving to crowds

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<v Speaker 1>that aren't there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's two steps at a time, and then he pauses

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<v Speaker 2>to catch his breath.

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<v Speaker 1>No heads, as he's just disembarking the plane's there's nobody there.

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<v Speaker 1>And watching him struggle in this footage just to get

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<v Speaker 1>into the car as a human being watching a fellow

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<v Speaker 1>human being, that in and of itself is painful. He's

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<v Speaker 1>got to try quite a few times just to heave

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<v Speaker 1>himself up into the car.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is the problem they've got this footage here,

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<v Speaker 2>compared to Trump being hit by a bullet and then

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<v Speaker 2>immediately standing to his feet and thrusting his fist into

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<v Speaker 2>the air. I mean, you could not get two more

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<v Speaker 2>completely different men, and no one who's got COVID. He's

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<v Speaker 2>got long COVID. He will survive, but his campaign will not.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll tell you what. If he's got COVID, he's got

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<v Speaker 5>the worst case of COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, like you say it, no mask So if

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<v Speaker 1>you have COVID, play the part, at least masker.

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<v Speaker 5>It's done.

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<v Speaker 1>We're supposed to take your claim seriously. At least put

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<v Speaker 1>on the one piece of paraphernalia. That announces to everyone. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sick at the moment, and I'm doing my best

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<v Speaker 1>not to spread this respiratory virus. Let's revisit the Director

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<v Speaker 1>of the Secret Service now shell we because of course

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<v Speaker 1>she's been under fire for the fact that the assassination

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<v Speaker 1>attempt was so successful until it wasn't. Yesterday she said,

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<v Speaker 1>oh it was. We couldn't put Secret Service on the

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<v Speaker 1>roof that the shooter climbed onto because it was a

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<v Speaker 1>sloped surface. We then showed you a lot of footage

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<v Speaker 1>of different Secret Surface on very sloped surfaces. Most roofs

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<v Speaker 1>are slope services. Director of the Secret Service, well, today

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<v Speaker 1>it has come to light that yes, indeed, the Secret

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<v Speaker 1>Service did know of the whereabouts of the shooter quite

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<v Speaker 1>a while before he pulled the trigger. Check out this

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<v Speaker 1>timeline published by ABC. This apparently is their own timeline

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<v Speaker 1>according to the FBI director, his deputy director, and the

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<v Speaker 1>head of the Secret Service. According to their own notes,

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<v Speaker 1>Crooks was identified as a person of interest a full

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two minutes before the shooting took place. How many

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<v Speaker 1>times have I said, they knew he was on the roof,

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<v Speaker 1>they knew he had a rifle. One of the cops

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<v Speaker 1>even went up there and said, hey, mate, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing up here on the roof with a rifle,

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<v Speaker 1>at which point the shooter trained the rifle on the cop.

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<v Speaker 1>There is absolutely no claim. They're not even trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make you believe anymore that the Secret Service did not

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<v Speaker 1>know this shooter was there. They knew his intentions, they

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<v Speaker 1>knew his whereabouts. And how else can anybody explain the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that between him pulling the trigger on the first shot,

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<v Speaker 1>he was just twenty six seconds later he was dead.

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<v Speaker 1>They'd shot him in the head.

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<v Speaker 5>And in fact, they now saw that the photograph that

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<v Speaker 5>we had all been looking at of those Secret Service

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<v Speaker 5>agents who were stationed on a slope roof behind the

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<v Speaker 5>President that we all thought were the ones that had

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<v Speaker 5>shot him in the head, were not the ones that

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<v Speaker 5>had shot him in the head. There were actually four

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<v Speaker 5>different sets of snipers they had, and it wasn't them.

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<v Speaker 5>They haven't yet told us which ones actually took him out, though,

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<v Speaker 5>But I can't get over Kim Cheatle, the head of

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<v Speaker 5>the Secret Service, took herself down today to the Republican

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<v Speaker 5>National Convention.

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<v Speaker 1>You was the one place he would not show your

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<v Speaker 1>face right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Why would you do that right? Like that's literally saying

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<v Speaker 5>come at me, guys, And well, that is exactly what

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<v Speaker 5>they did.

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<v Speaker 9>You the past.

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<v Speaker 5>And you are around the president, the President of Protection

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<v Speaker 5>to the Climate. I mean, she's an incompetent leader of

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<v Speaker 5>the Secret Service and clearly has very little brains left

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<v Speaker 5>whatsoever to think that it would be a good idea

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<v Speaker 5>to rock up to the RNC today that she wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>going to get some sort of reception like that. And

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<v Speaker 5>we showed you that timeline before of the shooter's arrival

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<v Speaker 5>and the fact that people knew he was there. Take

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<v Speaker 5>a look at this vision. This is vision out of

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<v Speaker 5>the US or the shooter there following this timeline. It's

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<v Speaker 5>been filmed. They knew he was there, and yet nothing

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<v Speaker 5>was done.

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<v Speaker 10>The man who captured it all not wanting to show

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<v Speaker 10>his face on camera.

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<v Speaker 1>He says he was.

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<v Speaker 10>Trying to capture the crowd and take it all in.

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<v Speaker 10>But if you take a closer look, you'll notice someone

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<v Speaker 10>in the background. The timestamp is five oh six and

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<v Speaker 10>the video appears to show twenty year old time as

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<v Speaker 10>crooks working near a building just past the secure parameters

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<v Speaker 10>of the event itself. As a video pans to the crowd.

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<v Speaker 10>You'll notice law enforcement vehicles stationed in the area, as

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<v Speaker 10>well as the camera moves back towards the building. Crooks

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<v Speaker 10>appears to be seen again blank and you may miss it,

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<v Speaker 10>but it likely shows Crooks was in the area for

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<v Speaker 10>more than an hour before the shots were fired.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, calm on, this is ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're coming round to my hypothesis now. Could not

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<v Speaker 1>have happened without helped that it was in fact allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. There is no other explanation a reasonable person

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<v Speaker 1>can reach. Once you add up all the facts and figures,

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<v Speaker 1>there's simply no other rational explanation.

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<v Speaker 2>It's even worse than we explained because on that timeline

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<v Speaker 2>of mistakes and mishaps by the Secret Service, we said

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<v Speaker 2>that he was spotted with a rangefinder, which everyone knows

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<v Speaker 2>is used by hunters to termined distance for shooting. He

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't just spotted with that. He went through a metal

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<v Speaker 2>detector and they found it on him but allowed him

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<v Speaker 2>to continue in kept an eye on him. But then

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<v Speaker 2>when he left the secured area, and of course the

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<v Speaker 2>building he shot Trump from was outside the secured area,

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<v Speaker 2>they sort of lost track of him and then ten

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<v Speaker 2>minutes before Trump got up to speak, they were on

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<v Speaker 2>him again, regarding him not just as suspicious but as

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<v Speaker 2>a threat, which begs the question why was Trump ever

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to get up to speak? The Secret Service director

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<v Speaker 2>at Chettel she had better protection from the Secret Service

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<v Speaker 2>at the Republican convention than Trump had at his rally.

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<v Speaker 2>And in that vision we saw where she's being chased.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't quite show the end of that, but she

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<v Speaker 2>actually goes into the women's toilets to avoid being chased

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<v Speaker 2>by the Republican politicians. So well, that was her refuged.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, she was able to do that because she was

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<v Speaker 5>at one place where they would actually have women's toilets

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<v Speaker 5>and that only women would be allowed to go into them.

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<v Speaker 1>Suddenly at Republican.

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<v Speaker 5>After a national convention. But you cannot deny that these sticks,

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<v Speaker 5>It just absolutely sticks. Now from what angle that might

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<v Speaker 5>have came, who knows whether, because you know, it's been

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<v Speaker 5>really weird. Obviously you've had the a lot of dims,

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<v Speaker 5>and even in that clip we played earlier of joy Read,

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<v Speaker 5>she sort of suggests, you know, why was he was allowed?

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<v Speaker 5>Trump that being was was allowed to stand up for

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<v Speaker 5>nine seconds and show his fist when there was an

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<v Speaker 5>active shooter situation, by which she is suggesting that the

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<v Speaker 5>whole thing was a set up, I said, to benefit

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<v Speaker 5>Donald Trump. But you have to ask the question when

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<v Speaker 5>you have not just one, not just two, not just three,

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<v Speaker 5>not just four, not just five, not just I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>we're talking about dozens of such obvious missteps and mistakes here.

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<v Speaker 5>Surely you'll forgive some of them, but it cannot all

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<v Speaker 5>be a coincidence. Something is dodgy here, who it was from,

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<v Speaker 5>who knows, But it raises so many questions, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Their bullshiness is something that should be paid attention to

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<v Speaker 1>because all of them know. Like I said last night,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe no one's head has rolled. No, there's

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<v Speaker 1>been no resignation, no firing, even though this has been

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<v Speaker 1>such an abject failure on every level. Why because they

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<v Speaker 1>know that unless Trump wins in November, there will be

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<v Speaker 1>no consequences. There will be no consequences. If he wins,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, then he can pursue what on earth happened here.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now is busy on the campaign trail, but as

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<v Speaker 1>president of the United States, he'll be able to seek

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<v Speaker 1>very serious investigators onto what actually occurred, and let's not

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<v Speaker 1>forget how close this man came to losing his life.

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<v Speaker 1>Check out the angle. All sorts of AI have gone

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<v Speaker 1>to town on this, just showing the rate at which

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<v Speaker 1>he turned his head. That saw instead of a bulls

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<v Speaker 1>eye through his skull, he lost a bit of his ear.

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<v Speaker 1>That is how close he came to losing his life

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<v Speaker 1>had he not turned around. To refer to a chart

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<v Speaker 1>regarding the amount of illegal immigration that has occurred on

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<v Speaker 1>the watch of the Biden administration, this one they were

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<v Speaker 1>using AI, using the video that they had of him

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<v Speaker 1>to show the angle, the tilt of his head, and

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<v Speaker 1>how it actually saved his life. All of us can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait for more details to come out, because it's just

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<v Speaker 1>going from bad to worse and becoming more and more obvious.

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<v Speaker 1>This was some kind of a stitch up. How big

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<v Speaker 1>the stitch up was, who knows, but I believe time

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<v Speaker 1>will tell.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just so glad to be living in a timeline

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<v Speaker 5>where we get to look at things like this and

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<v Speaker 5>talk about them on TV every night. I think I

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<v Speaker 5>said this last night. You literally couldn't script this stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>It is so damn good. Now, of course, Biden, we

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<v Speaker 5>know a supposed has COVID, so he's out of the

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<v Speaker 5>way for a little while. But his campaign put out

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<v Speaker 5>a new ad today. They decided that the way to

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<v Speaker 5>go after Trump is to talk about abortion. Now they're

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<v Speaker 5>basing a lot of this, not only on Trump himself,

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<v Speaker 5>because of course Trump has previously said that it should

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<v Speaker 5>be left up to the states, and that's a position

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<v Speaker 5>I agree with. It is a federation in which states

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<v Speaker 5>ought to have the independence to make their own policy

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<v Speaker 5>and legislative decisions. Whereas his VP pick jd Vance has

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<v Speaker 5>opened up the idea before this is previous to him

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<v Speaker 5>being appointed as Trump's VP pick, that perhaps there should

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<v Speaker 5>be some kind of national rule. Well, they've decided that's

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<v Speaker 5>the thing they're going to go after. Now this is

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<v Speaker 5>the new ad.

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<v Speaker 11>When roe v Wade was overturned, immediately I just thought

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<v Speaker 11>about being twelve. And first thing I was told to

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<v Speaker 11>you when I saw that positive pregnancy test.

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<v Speaker 1>Was you have options.

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<v Speaker 11>And you know, if roev Wade would have been a

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<v Speaker 11>return sooner, I wouldn't have heard that. And then it

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<v Speaker 11>had me thinking that there's someone who doesn't get to

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<v Speaker 11>hear that. Now, girls like me across the country are

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<v Speaker 11>suffering their futures are being ripped away.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump and JD. Vance don't care about women.

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<v Speaker 11>They don't care about girls in this situation.

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<v Speaker 5>But hang on a minute. Trump has not called for Trump,

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<v Speaker 5>the man who's running for president, has not called for

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<v Speaker 5>a nationwide ban on abortion. He's ruled that out. He's

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<v Speaker 5>just said that it should be left up to the states.

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<v Speaker 5>So the choice still exists. You're never going to have

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<v Speaker 5>every state of the United States having a ban on abortion.

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<v Speaker 5>It will continue to exist in the United States forever more.

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<v Speaker 5>And they set it up as this argument of well,

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<v Speaker 5>it means that Trump and JD. Vans don't care about women.

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<v Speaker 5>When did we get to the point that they don't

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<v Speaker 5>care about women? Because Trump's perspective is that it should

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<v Speaker 5>be up to states to make their own decisions about

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<v Speaker 5>their own law.

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<v Speaker 2>You sound surprised that the Democrats tell lies and manipulate.

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<v Speaker 2>Not surprise, I mean the ad they use the most

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<v Speaker 2>extreme example. You can imagine, a girl is raped by

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<v Speaker 2>her father and gets pregnant to her dad at age twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they say this is happening to girls all

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<v Speaker 2>across the country, which clearly is an exaggeration. Then they

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<v Speaker 2>imply that there is a certain group of people who

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<v Speaker 2>happen to believe a baby in the womb is a

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<v Speaker 2>human life, and they have zero sympathy for someone in

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<v Speaker 2>that situation, to the point where they actually don't even

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<v Speaker 2>care about that girl or anything that happens to her.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is how we got to the situation in

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<v Speaker 2>the first place, where we've got a presidential candidate shot

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<v Speaker 2>in the head. This demonizing of anyone who disagrees on

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<v Speaker 2>a policy issue or has a different worldview. Therefore you

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<v Speaker 2>must be evil, you must hate people, and therefore you

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<v Speaker 2>are somehow the other. And the Democrats are just continuing

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<v Speaker 2>down this same line, which shows you know, Trump's changed

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<v Speaker 2>his demeanor in his attitude since the assassination attempt. The

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats have changed nothing. They're continuing down the same street

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<v Speaker 2>that got us the violence on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of lies, manipulation. This, as you rightly explain, this

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<v Speaker 1>is based on a complete lie. It's simply not true.

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<v Speaker 1>If that girl were to be in the same situation

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow or somebody else, God forbid, she would also be

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<v Speaker 1>told you have options. Sadly, girls in such situations are

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<v Speaker 1>not made aware of the other options available to them,

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<v Speaker 1>which means that they can give birth to a child

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<v Speaker 1>and send it on to a very, very loving family.

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<v Speaker 1>Much like in Australia, the list in America to adopt

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<v Speaker 1>is extremely long. Everyone has far more options than to

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<v Speaker 1>kill your child when faced in such a catastrophic situation.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't deny that, but Donald Trump's campaign isn't even

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<v Speaker 1>bothering to talk about how bad Biden is anymore. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>latest ads, simply saying, I am unifying the country, I

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<v Speaker 1>am fighting for us. I am going to do everything

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<v Speaker 1>within my power to stick it to the elites here.

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<v Speaker 12>It is the only crime that I've committed is to

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<v Speaker 12>fearlessly defend our nation from those who seek to destroy it.

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<v Speaker 12>The more that a broken system tells you that you're wrong,

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<v Speaker 12>the more certain you should be that you must keep

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<v Speaker 12>pushing away. They want to take away my freedom, because

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<v Speaker 12>I will never let them take away your freedom. They

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<v Speaker 12>want to silence me, because I will never let them

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<v Speaker 12>silence you.

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<v Speaker 10>They're not coming after me, They're coming after you.

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<v Speaker 5>And I just happen to be standing in their way,

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<v Speaker 5>and I will never be moving. On November fifth, twenty

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<v Speaker 5>twenty four, justice will be done.

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<v Speaker 1>We will take back our country, and we.

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<v Speaker 5>Will make America break again.

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<v Speaker 1>Really speaking, is the father of the nation. The Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>were always like, oh, where the ones unifying Australia and

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<v Speaker 1>Australia definitely not Australia nor America. But this was their argument,

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<v Speaker 1>where the unifiers. Trump is the divider. Oh, he's so divisive,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's looking like the exact opposite. And everyday Americans

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<v Speaker 1>are waking up to that reality, especially after four years

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<v Speaker 1>of a Biden administration, and when you watch ads like

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<v Speaker 1>that and you see Trump pumping his fist in the

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<v Speaker 1>air and defiance even after being shot seconds earlier, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you compare him to Biden, who can't get through

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<v Speaker 1>a single speech nowadays without seriously cringe moments. The choice

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty clear for every day Americans. Here's Biden speaking

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<v Speaker 1>recently at the NAACP convention, and you're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to get through this without either laughing or

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<v Speaker 1>at least winsing.

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<v Speaker 9>I dare say, Joe, you may not have a Congress. Well,

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<v Speaker 9>guess what y'all told me. I couldn't pass the Inflation

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<v Speaker 9>Reduction Act. Y'all told me I couldn't face it anyway,

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<v Speaker 9>Be Dizney, We're gonna bring rents out. As I said,

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<v Speaker 9>we're gonna.

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<v Speaker 5>Build two million affordable homes.

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<v Speaker 9>The cap run increases of five percent a year, so

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<v Speaker 9>corporate landlords can't God anyway, I don't get going. I'm

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<v Speaker 9>gonna get very upset.

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<v Speaker 1>The full legth actually goes for longer, where some troll

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<v Speaker 1>on the internet is just throwing through every single part

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<v Speaker 1>of the speech where he just kind of tape us off,

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<v Speaker 1>forgets what he's saying, and is like, well, anyway, and

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<v Speaker 1>most recently in another interview, he couldn't remember the name

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<v Speaker 1>of his own Minister of Defense.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all about it's all about tuning people in dignity,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's about making sure that.

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<v Speaker 5>We want coming.

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<v Speaker 4>For example, look at the heat on getting it because

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<v Speaker 4>I who named in the fans for black man, because

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<v Speaker 4>of the people I've named.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of the people I've named, I don't remember their names,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know that they're black, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think it's really important to treat people with dignity. And

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<v Speaker 2>then he forgets his Defense secretary's name and refers to

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<v Speaker 2>him as the black man. I mean that's not particularly dignified.

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<v Speaker 11>Is it.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, look, I think for Biden it's anyway, No, No,

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<v Speaker 5>I just going back to the campaign ad that the

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<v Speaker 5>ad from Trump. I love it so much because it's

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<v Speaker 5>a return to how political campaigns used to be run, right,

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:45.960
<v Speaker 5>And if there's anything good to come out of someone

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<v Speaker 5>trying to shoot Donald Trump in the head, I think

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<v Speaker 5>it's that it has reset politics in the United States

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit and has taken them back to a

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<v Speaker 5>slightly more conciliatory place because it's made things real.

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<v Speaker 2>It's taken one side back to yes.

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<v Speaker 5>But even if you look at that abortion ad, as

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<v Speaker 5>full of nonsense as it is, it's not as hard

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<v Speaker 5>as what you would expect them to be going right now,

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<v Speaker 5>like you would expect if if Donald had not been

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:18.320
<v Speaker 5>shot at there would just be ads NonStop about Donald

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<v Speaker 5>orrige man bad. They'd still be on the lines about

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<v Speaker 5>he's a threat to democracy. You're never going to be

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<v Speaker 5>able to vote again. As Robert de Niro said, all

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<v Speaker 5>of that has sort of gone away because they know

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<v Speaker 5>they can't use that so much anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>But they've gone to abortion because abortion is the only

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:35.119
<v Speaker 2>other real issue they've got exactly, and even their abortion issue,

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<v Speaker 2>as you rightly pointed out, is completely.

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<v Speaker 5>As well based on rapids. But we used to campaign.

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<v Speaker 5>Political campaigns used to be based on this is what

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<v Speaker 5>I am going to do for you, as opposed to

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<v Speaker 5>this is why the other side is bad, and we've

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<v Speaker 5>been very guilty of it in Australia most recently as well.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean you look at most campaigns since probably about

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<v Speaker 5>two thousand and four and they've all been based on

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<v Speaker 5>why the other guy is bad. And you can go

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<v Speaker 5>to remember those ads of Johnny Howard with his nose

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<v Speaker 5>coming out as though he were Pinocchio, Who do you trust?

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 5>Who do you trust? Who do you trust? Then you

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<v Speaker 5>had the Kevin ruddads of him as a lemon, and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, on and on it has gone. Whereas once

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<v Speaker 5>upon a time it was a Hawk campaigning in nineteen

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 5>eighty eight about let's stick together, let's see it through

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 5>Joe by Elkia.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry I got to pick up though the Kevin rudders

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<v Speaker 2>a lemon.

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<v Speaker 5>That was true? Well yeah, it was sure, sure it

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<v Speaker 5>was true. But Joby Shenderson campaigning back in the eighties,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, Joe for Queensland, and it was not about

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<v Speaker 5>the other sides bad. It's about this is what I

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<v Speaker 5>am offering you. And that's what Trump is doing in

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 5>that ad and if we can get back to that

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<v Speaker 5>style of politics, I will be so happy because it

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<v Speaker 5>means we can talk about policy as opposed to why

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<v Speaker 5>someone else is terrible and he should be the point

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<v Speaker 5>of politic.

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon, Joe Biden has been listening to you, because

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<v Speaker 2>take a look at this. Biden almost ate Donald Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>campaign line almost.

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<v Speaker 9>So tonight, I'm asking every American to recommend to make America.

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<v Speaker 5>So make America a great again.

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic. Well, since we're talking about the political attitudes in Australia,

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about a Guardian Essential poll published recently that

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<v Speaker 2>found three quarters of Australians believe, wait for it, drum roll,

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 2>MPs enter politics to serve their own interests. Now you

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<v Speaker 2>would have thought the poll found seventy five percent of

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 2>Australians reckon politicians are there for their own interests and

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 2>twenty five percent of Australians completely misunderstood the question So

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<v Speaker 2>what do you reckon?

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<v Speaker 5>Liz?

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<v Speaker 2>This is absolutely true. I actually think the majority. This

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<v Speaker 2>is not You're going to criticize me for this and

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:52.360
<v Speaker 2>say I'm naive, and I think most people start off

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:56.360
<v Speaker 2>with a mission and quite idealistic. Then they become frustrated

0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 2>because they find this is nothing like I thought it

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<v Speaker 2>would be. There's so much bureaucracy. Then they become cynical,

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:04.120
<v Speaker 2>and then they think, well, I might have sort of

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:06.160
<v Speaker 2>get something out of it for myself. I think there's

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<v Speaker 2>a progression. I don't think people go in there to

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<v Speaker 2>get something initially for themselves. I think most people, all of.

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<v Speaker 1>Them, start right noh you describing someone who starts out

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 1>as a conviction politician and then rose jaded over the years. Now,

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 1>that does happen, but they don't all start out bright eyed,

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 1>bushy tailed, oh dealistic. I just want the best for

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:30.960
<v Speaker 1>the nation. If they did, we would be in a

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 1>much better place than we are now. And that is

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 1>why cynicism amongst Australians toward politicians is as an all

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:42.600
<v Speaker 1>time high. Another part of that poll was basically asking

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 1>them are you satisfied with Australian politics? Only thirty seven

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:49.560
<v Speaker 1>percent said yeah, yeah, we think that actually it's not

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 1>all that bad. I was surprised that that was that

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<v Speaker 1>high because when you look at the amount of lies

0:31:57.200 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 1>that we're told, when you look at all the corruption

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 1>that graces our headlines week in week out of Polly's

0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 1>being caught out in outright lives when you look at

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 1>the policies that they're pushing that we know without being experts,

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 1>they are going to be detrimental to our country's prosperity,

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:20.960
<v Speaker 1>not just for us but for generations to come. Oozzi's

0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 1>are more and more waking up to the fact these

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 1>guys aren't our friends. They don't even seem on side.

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<v Speaker 1>And how many times do we have to be lied

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<v Speaker 1>to by the government before we believe the government is

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<v Speaker 1>lying to us.

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<v Speaker 5>The people you're talking about, James, I think most of

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<v Speaker 5>and they do exist, most often come from minor parties

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:44.240
<v Speaker 5>or their independents or their people who come from a

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 5>business background and get parachuted into a safe seek because

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:50.080
<v Speaker 5>the party thinks it's good to get someone like that

0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:53.040
<v Speaker 5>in the high profile exactly, so they go in there.

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<v Speaker 2>But we think the majority of people in major parties

0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 2>are in Therefore.

0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 5>I'll get to that Sie, I'll get to that Noes sect.

0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 5>Those people go in there and actually want to achieve

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:04.479
<v Speaker 5>something because they've run, particularly on a goal. If you're

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 5>an independent, you've got something, you want to stand up

0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:11.120
<v Speaker 5>for your community. There. As a former businessman, you're going

0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:13.240
<v Speaker 5>in there to get stuff done, because that's what I've

0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 5>done my whole life. But unfortunately, a large portion of

0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 5>the people who make up the major parties, the Liberals,

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 5>the Nationals, the Labor Party, have worked in politics their

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 5>whole lives before they go into politics as a politician.

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:31.239
<v Speaker 5>They starting university in student politics. And if I can

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<v Speaker 5>be perfectly frank, anyone who's been involved in student politics

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<v Speaker 5>should be banned from running for real politics as far

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<v Speaker 5>as I'm concerned, because what it's not if they.

0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Did leave UNI and become business if you.

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<v Speaker 5>Can prove life in the middle take but what it

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 5>proves about those people is that they were more obsessed

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:53.120
<v Speaker 5>with the politics of politics before they got into it

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 5>than they were with actually achieving goals. So these people

0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 5>started with student politics and university usually go on to

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 5>become staff They joined the Young Labor or the Young Libs,

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:05.960
<v Speaker 5>then they become a staffer in someone's office, then they

0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 5>become a ministerial advisor, and then eventually they get given

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 5>the seat that they sort of worked for their whole lives.

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:15.440
<v Speaker 5>So what they have done their whole lives is work

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 5>towards their goal of being in politics because of course,

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:22.400
<v Speaker 5>politics is show business for ugly people. They didn't go

0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:25.479
<v Speaker 5>there to change the world. They went there because they're

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 5>obsessed with the idea of it.

0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever been a member of the lay party

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:33.479
<v Speaker 1>of either party? Have you ever been a member of

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 1>any party?

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:36.439
<v Speaker 2>If I was, I would not disclose it on national

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:37.320
<v Speaker 2>fat that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Fair, but I certainly have for many years. No longer,

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:46.840
<v Speaker 1>also for many years, But that that is how it works.

0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 1>The case knows who is in line for every single seat.

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 2>So granted, but do you think that's more the case

0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:58.360
<v Speaker 2>on the left who typically have been much work experience,

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 2>whereas in the col and there's far more who have

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:04.759
<v Speaker 2>had careers, and yes they've gone into politics early. But

0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 2>could you not make the decision I want to make

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:09.439
<v Speaker 2>a difference in this country as an independent, I'm really

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:11.200
<v Speaker 2>not going to make any difference at all. So my

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 2>option really is to join a major party if I

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:15.800
<v Speaker 2>want to make a difference.

0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:18.960
<v Speaker 5>Why can't you have that actual But still, if you

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:21.720
<v Speaker 5>really wanted to make a difference, you don't find somewhere

0:35:21.719 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 5>else to do it. For most people, I think because

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 5>you can make more difference outside of the team than

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:27.920
<v Speaker 5>you can inside the team, and look, sure, sure there

0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 5>may be more people in the Coalition who have business

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:33.920
<v Speaker 5>experience behind them, but of course in the Labor Party

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 5>there are many other ways to get your way there,

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 5>the union movement for instance, No doubt, right, No, there

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:41.239
<v Speaker 5>are so many people in the Coalition who got to

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 5>Parliament by working their way up through the ranks, starting

0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:47.440
<v Speaker 5>in an electric and then moving into a ministerial office.

0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 5>That's how it works. We just breed more and more

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:53.920
<v Speaker 5>and more of the same people from the same mold

0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:57.719
<v Speaker 5>who are obsessed with politics, not obsessed with outcomes. And

0:35:57.760 --> 0:36:00.359
<v Speaker 5>when you have people who are obsessed with politics, they

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:02.880
<v Speaker 5>don't care about what the outcome is. They care about

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:05.640
<v Speaker 5>the fun that they get to have in Canberra. Now

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:08.839
<v Speaker 5>very quickly before we go. I don't know about you,

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:12.440
<v Speaker 5>but I feel claustrophobic if I am in a small space.

0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:15.640
<v Speaker 5>That's why I have insisted on having this studio expanded

0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 5>when I came and joined Sky News, because I didn't

0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 5>want to work in a small studio. And they did

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:23.080
<v Speaker 5>it just for you. They did. Indeed, thank you very

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:23.759
<v Speaker 5>much to the boss.

0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:26.879
<v Speaker 2>As they you're motivated completely by self interest, that's right.

0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:30.680
<v Speaker 5>I don't hide from that. I'm not politicians about gods

0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 5>are for self interest. I want to get paid, and

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 5>they have allses and things like this, But how would

0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:39.560
<v Speaker 5>you like to live in this thing here? Now, it's

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 5>a pod. I think they call them a tiny apartment,

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:44.759
<v Speaker 5>So I'm describing as I don't know, you could call

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 5>it an apartment. I mean it's literally you can't stand up,

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:49.400
<v Speaker 5>and you can't stand it. You crawl into it and

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:53.759
<v Speaker 5>you lie down. It's basically a bed with walls around it.

0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 5>They're being rented out in Sydney now for three hundred

0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:01.400
<v Speaker 5>dollars a week. Three hundred dollars a week for that

0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:05.720
<v Speaker 5>That is extortionate, But I suppose it proves exactly how

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 5>bad the housing crisis is that someone is willing to

0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:11.279
<v Speaker 5>pay three hundred dollars a week for I don't know,

0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:15.080
<v Speaker 5>a bed and a shared bathroom and a shared living space.

0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:17.920
<v Speaker 2>They should make politicians live in those pods until the

0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:18.720
<v Speaker 2>housing crisis.

0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:21.240
<v Speaker 5>Now I'm with you, now, I'm.

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 1>With they stayed in one of these, and it's.

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 2>Not that bad you've stayed in one of those.

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, because the whole idea of you're only going

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:32.480
<v Speaker 1>in there to sleep, right, And this is in the CBD,

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 1>so backpack has come. You put your backpack in one

0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:41.160
<v Speaker 1>of their locked cupboards. It is showered amenities like shared

0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:45.399
<v Speaker 1>amenities rather if you toilet showers, et cetera. But then

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:47.920
<v Speaker 1>you just crawl in here to sleep. You've got your laptop,

0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 1>You've got Wi Fi if you want to watch a movie.

0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:53.240
<v Speaker 1>I stayed in there for a week, and can I say,

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 1>in terms of cheap of accommodation, you could do worse.

0:37:56.840 --> 0:37:58.680
<v Speaker 5>You could do worse, But I like rocket around the

0:37:58.680 --> 0:38:00.439
<v Speaker 5>house with no clothes on in the more. You can't

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:01.120
<v Speaker 5>do that in there.

0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's the last AIRB can say.

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:05.919
<v Speaker 2>Those pods, if they're not successful for accommodation, they could

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:07.000
<v Speaker 2>just use them as a cemetery.

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:07.160
<v Speaker 11>There.

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<v Speaker 2>That's small. We're going to go to a break. When

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<v Speaker 2>we come back, we'll look at the papers. Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's take a look at what's making news in tomorrow's papers. Liz,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got the Daily Telegraph.

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<v Speaker 1>The police, you indeed, the police are in trouble. Drunk

0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Clock got special treatment from the fourth Say it ain't so.

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:32.720
<v Speaker 1>Webb's car crash. A senior police officer who allegedly downed

0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:37.920
<v Speaker 1>more than twenty standard drinks before crashing his car. Has

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:41.080
<v Speaker 1>thrown the New South Wales Police Force into disarray with

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:44.919
<v Speaker 1>claims of special treatment, alleged cover ups and a loss

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 1>of confidence in the upper echelon of the force. This

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<v Speaker 1>was a high ranking officer known only as ab we

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:55.920
<v Speaker 1>don't even get to know their names, allegedly crashed an

0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:59.359
<v Speaker 1>unmarked police car on the North Connects ramps in May

0:38:59.400 --> 0:39:03.800
<v Speaker 1>of twenty two twenty three, then fled and it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like he obviously hasn't been punished a very fitting way

0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:11.240
<v Speaker 1>at all. So it just goes to show these guys

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<v Speaker 1>tasks with the very job to Obviously, if anybody else

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<v Speaker 1>tried this, they get the full force of the law.

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<v Speaker 1>Seems to have gotten off very lightly.

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<v Speaker 5>Indeed ab ilyad to believe stands for absolutely blotto, which is.

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<v Speaker 1>What he would have been.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a lot of shit, But I've done that before

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<v Speaker 5>and I wouldn't have even been able to put the

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<v Speaker 5>keys in the ignition of the car, let alone operate

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 5>the bloody thing. But so they've made a number of

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:44.400
<v Speaker 5>misconduct fundings against him, which is fair enough. But the

0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 5>coppers themselves, as in the police force, has escaped most

0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:53.360
<v Speaker 5>of the criticism because after this happened. It's standard practice.

0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:55.919
<v Speaker 5>Someone gets caught, you know, that far over the limit,

0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:58.759
<v Speaker 5>they've had twenty standard drinks. Usually they put out a

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<v Speaker 5>press release and say that, you know, someone had crashed

0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:05.960
<v Speaker 5>their car at zero point three or whatever the reading was.

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:09.440
<v Speaker 5>And having been a police reporter, that's pretty standard to

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<v Speaker 5>get those sort of press releases. This fellow crashes his car,

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<v Speaker 5>no thing press release, and the report found that that

0:40:16.920 --> 0:40:20.160
<v Speaker 5>was not misconduct. I mean, I don't know how it isn't.

0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:24.000
<v Speaker 5>To be perfectly frank, it sounds like in every respect

0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 5>this bloke got away lightly and in some ways they

0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:29.520
<v Speaker 5>tried to cover it up. How can you get away

0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:29.680
<v Speaker 5>with it?

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<v Speaker 1>And Commissioner Karen Webb found out about it straight afterwards

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:38.280
<v Speaker 1>and took six months to refer it on is something

0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:41.319
<v Speaker 1>that maybe maybe we should look into this, Maybe this

0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:45.359
<v Speaker 1>guy should be investigated. I mean, every time I hear

0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:49.400
<v Speaker 1>the name Commissioner Karen Webb, it's another catastrophe.

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<v Speaker 5>And by the way, they gave him another car. I mean,

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:55.120
<v Speaker 5>look at you, I believe one.

0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Do you guys think this is female privilege? Because I

0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:03.400
<v Speaker 1>think if Karen web was your average male police commissioner,

0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:05.920
<v Speaker 1>we've seen many of them in the state, she would

0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:09.279
<v Speaker 1>be gone ski by now. First, there was the tasering

0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:14.280
<v Speaker 1>of the very elderly grandmother in an old person's home

0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:18.080
<v Speaker 1>just last year. I mean, I don't want to reel

0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:22.480
<v Speaker 1>off all her faux pas, but it's a long list

0:41:22.480 --> 0:41:26.800
<v Speaker 1>and it's a short show. But it strikes me as

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:31.520
<v Speaker 1>very strange that she still has her job, Come what may.

0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:34.239
<v Speaker 2>I was talking to police officer recently and I made

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 2>a joke about Karen Webb, assuming the police officer would

0:41:37.080 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 2>share my disdain for the commissioner. And this police officer

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:44.760
<v Speaker 2>said to me, actually, she's very well liked amongst the police,

0:41:44.880 --> 0:41:46.279
<v Speaker 2>maybe because of stuff.

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:48.600
<v Speaker 5>Like that.

0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Get away with murder.

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:53.239
<v Speaker 2>But this police officer was at pains to point out

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:55.520
<v Speaker 2>the public perception of her and the perception of her

0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:57.640
<v Speaker 2>within the force were two very different things.

0:41:57.960 --> 0:42:01.919
<v Speaker 1>All that matter. Public perception of her as commissioner, You've

0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:04.760
<v Speaker 1>got a very public role. Sure, members of the force

0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:07.920
<v Speaker 1>not so much. You're just doing your day to day duty.

0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:12.040
<v Speaker 1>But someone who is this unpopular as commissioner, I'm just

0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:14.760
<v Speaker 1>surprised she's still got her job. And I do wonder

0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:18.960
<v Speaker 1>if it's not just female privilege that she still is

0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 1>New South Wales Commissioner.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean this is a while ago, but do you

0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 2>remember when Christine Nixon in Melbourne. I mean she was

0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:26.680
<v Speaker 2>at the hairdressers when all sorts of things were going on,

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:28.279
<v Speaker 2>and she didn't get a free pass for that.

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<v Speaker 5>No, No, I suspect probably more what's happening is if

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:33.719
<v Speaker 5>she's well liked within the force. We know that there

0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:36.720
<v Speaker 5>are so many problems at the moment with attracting police officers.

0:42:37.120 --> 0:42:40.160
<v Speaker 5>To drag a police commissioner out of her office and

0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:43.280
<v Speaker 5>then try and install someone else would probably cause disruption

0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:45.440
<v Speaker 5>within the force, and that's the last thing that a

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:47.359
<v Speaker 5>state government would want at the moment. So they're sort

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 5>of between a rock and a hard pluss.

0:42:49.160 --> 0:42:52.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, let's go to the Career Mail in Queensland. The

0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:56.440
<v Speaker 2>front page reads exclusive polling election countdown begins as voters

0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:59.399
<v Speaker 2>back in Chris a fully King David. The Career Mail

0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:03.320
<v Speaker 2>has anointed him early King David awaits David Christo fully

0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 2>is on track to become the next Premier of Queensland

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:08.520
<v Speaker 2>in one hundred days from today. With an exclusive new

0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:11.800
<v Speaker 2>poll revealing Labour's primary vote has plunged to its lowest

0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:17.520
<v Speaker 2>level since before Federation. The LNP have fifty seven percent

0:43:17.560 --> 0:43:20.799
<v Speaker 2>of the primary vote, Labor just forty three percent. The

0:43:20.960 --> 0:43:25.000
<v Speaker 2>LMP need fourteen seats to win government, but on current

0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:29.920
<v Speaker 2>trends they'll pick up twenty three seats, including seven held

0:43:29.920 --> 0:43:33.880
<v Speaker 2>by current ALP ministers. And this is in spite of

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:37.359
<v Speaker 2>the fact that Giggles Miles has actually sort of been

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:40.480
<v Speaker 2>doing okay with people recently, and there's polling about a

0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:43.239
<v Speaker 2>month ago that offered a little bit of encouragement to

0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:47.000
<v Speaker 2>the Labor Party. So this sort of squashes that. The

0:43:47.080 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 2>other interesting thing about this article, which I find difficult

0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:53.480
<v Speaker 2>to understand, two thirds of people polled said they would

0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:57.560
<v Speaker 2>vote on promises made in this current election rather than

0:43:57.640 --> 0:44:01.400
<v Speaker 2>casting judgment on the past nine years. I would have

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:05.080
<v Speaker 2>thought the issue or the referendum in this instance would

0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:08.799
<v Speaker 2>be Labour's performance over nine years have completely stuffed up

0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:11.000
<v Speaker 2>the state. But people are willing to ignore the last

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:14.040
<v Speaker 2>nine years and clean slate would vote on what's being

0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:14.919
<v Speaker 2>offered right now.

0:44:15.200 --> 0:44:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that was hard respect that was what Labor was

0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 1>hoping for when Anastasia Palichet was swapped out four miles.

0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:27.719
<v Speaker 1>That's why parties do this, to be like, oh, look

0:44:27.760 --> 0:44:31.439
<v Speaker 1>we're a brand new government, all the same people. You've

0:44:31.480 --> 0:44:37.120
<v Speaker 1>just redistributed the chairs the deck chairs of the Titanic.

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:41.120
<v Speaker 1>But this is a ten percent swing away from labor

0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:45.400
<v Speaker 1>since the last election. I don't think that the Courier

0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:47.840
<v Speaker 1>mal is being dramatic in saying this could be a

0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:51.600
<v Speaker 1>generational loss for labor because it looks like they're about

0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:54.279
<v Speaker 1>to fall off a very steep cliff. And who knows

0:44:54.280 --> 0:44:56.560
<v Speaker 1>when we'll hear from them again when it comes to

0:44:56.640 --> 0:44:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Queensland government.

0:44:57.640 --> 0:44:59.600
<v Speaker 5>Send me a packet of tissues. I really need to

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:02.560
<v Speaker 5>drive eyes right now. Let's go to the Herald's Sun

0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:06.759
<v Speaker 5>where it says tomorrow blast faboos and blast it right

0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:10.320
<v Speaker 5>into my mouth. Thanks. Some alcohol companies have been slammed

0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:13.960
<v Speaker 5>for a spike in the use of sneaky marketing tactics

0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:18.200
<v Speaker 5>that exploit health Just drinkers, oh no. A report from

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:21.840
<v Speaker 5>the Cancer Council of Victoria found virtue marketing, which highlights

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:25.239
<v Speaker 5>of product's nutritional benefits, eco friendliness or plays to a

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:29.080
<v Speaker 5>bar's social conscience, has increased in Australia by almost twenty

0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:31.600
<v Speaker 5>percent in a decade. What are we going to do?

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:34.240
<v Speaker 5>I mean, the other day, the Cancer Council in Victoria

0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:38.280
<v Speaker 5>was telling the state government that they should ban advertisements

0:45:38.320 --> 0:45:42.879
<v Speaker 5>for fast food from their new metro train network. Now

0:45:42.880 --> 0:45:46.799
<v Speaker 5>they're saying that alcohol brands should be banned from advertising,

0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:50.560
<v Speaker 5>for instance, that their beer has twenty percent less carbs

0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:53.799
<v Speaker 5>than another beer. I don't think someone walks into a

0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:57.719
<v Speaker 5>bottle shop, well, say your teetotaler, and you're like, wow,

0:45:58.160 --> 0:46:00.560
<v Speaker 5>bea has less carbs in it. Now I'm going to

0:46:00.560 --> 0:46:02.839
<v Speaker 5>be a beer drinker. All it means is that if

0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:05.680
<v Speaker 5>you want to buy beer, you might go we'll a'll

0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:08.239
<v Speaker 5>opt for the slightly more healthy one hubs in it.

0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:10.839
<v Speaker 5>I don't know what difference this makes.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, exactly absolutely all right, We're going to go to

0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:15.759
<v Speaker 2>a break. When we come back. You've heard about meat

0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:18.759
<v Speaker 2>in a laboratory. What about milk, cheese, butter? All of

0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:23.759
<v Speaker 2>that in just a moment. Welcome back to our spacious

0:46:23.760 --> 0:46:27.200
<v Speaker 2>Sky News studio. All thanks to Caleb Bond who put

0:46:27.280 --> 0:46:31.600
<v Speaker 2>in the special request. Done Caleb, Liz. The world is

0:46:31.640 --> 0:46:35.560
<v Speaker 2>going to die because of climate change. Is there anything

0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:38.360
<v Speaker 2>we can do to prevent global boiling?

0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:41.600
<v Speaker 1>We need to cut down on our dairy and meat

0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:46.120
<v Speaker 1>consumption because it is absolutely ravaging the planet. We all

0:46:46.160 --> 0:46:50.160
<v Speaker 1>know that agriculture is the number one industry the climate

0:46:50.200 --> 0:46:53.560
<v Speaker 1>communists have in their site, and who better to help

0:46:53.600 --> 0:46:56.960
<v Speaker 1>out the world with this than Bill Gates himself. He's

0:46:56.960 --> 0:47:01.120
<v Speaker 1>got a company called Savor, and he's very about their

0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:06.080
<v Speaker 1>fake butter, which he claims is, Oh, it tastes like

0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:09.479
<v Speaker 1>the real thing. Let's hear from the man himself. He says,

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:13.120
<v Speaker 1>the process doesn't release any greenhouse gases, and it uses

0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:16.440
<v Speaker 1>no farmland and less than a thousandth of the water

0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:21.239
<v Speaker 1>that traditional agriculture does. And most important it this fake

0:47:21.280 --> 0:47:26.239
<v Speaker 1>butter tastes really good like the real thing because chemically

0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:30.040
<v Speaker 1>it is. Notice he's not saying that it's got any

0:47:30.160 --> 0:47:33.480
<v Speaker 1>nutritional value or what it does to the human body.

0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I am so sick of vegans and the

0:47:36.160 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 1>like or vegetarians then just coming up with these fake

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:42.800
<v Speaker 1>chemically like, oh, this is a meat substitute, this is

0:47:42.840 --> 0:47:46.120
<v Speaker 1>a butter substitute. This is some sort of milk. We've

0:47:46.120 --> 0:47:48.920
<v Speaker 1>squeezed it out of a manot, but we're calling it milk.

0:47:49.239 --> 0:47:54.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, these processes are so chemical laden, and then

0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:57.000
<v Speaker 1>they want you to believe, oh no, this is just

0:47:57.040 --> 0:47:58.920
<v Speaker 1>as good as the real thing. This is just as

0:47:58.920 --> 0:48:03.040
<v Speaker 1>good as butter. I think my innerds will know the different.

0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:07.520
<v Speaker 2>There is something even worse than lab made butter, and

0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:11.160
<v Speaker 2>that is pre prepared meals that have a shelf life

0:48:11.200 --> 0:48:16.720
<v Speaker 2>of twenty five years. US food wholesaler Costco have produced

0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:21.280
<v Speaker 2>what they're calling an emergency food bucket. If food bucket

0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:22.920
<v Speaker 2>should put you off in the first place, it's one

0:48:22.960 --> 0:48:27.120
<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty meals that will last twenty five years.

0:48:27.400 --> 0:48:31.080
<v Speaker 2>People are calling it an apocalypse dinner kit. Will show

0:48:31.120 --> 0:48:33.440
<v Speaker 2>you an image. There it is. There's the bucket. It

0:48:33.600 --> 0:48:40.320
<v Speaker 2>contains potato pie, quimi, pasta and vegetables, tiaki, rice, vanilla pudding.

0:48:40.600 --> 0:48:42.880
<v Speaker 2>You buy it today and you eat it in what

0:48:42.920 --> 0:48:46.320
<v Speaker 2>would that be twenty forty nine caves.

0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Only one hundred and fifty meals in twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not sure about this look. I might even take

0:48:54.239 --> 0:48:58.120
<v Speaker 5>the bloody fake butter over that to if that can

0:48:58.200 --> 0:49:01.680
<v Speaker 5>last twenty five years. I'm pretty worried about what the

0:49:01.719 --> 0:49:04.080
<v Speaker 5>hell is in it. But you know you can pry

0:49:04.400 --> 0:49:08.319
<v Speaker 5>my butter from my cold dead hands. Have you ever

0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:12.160
<v Speaker 5>seen a fat French person? They don't exist. You know

0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:15.399
<v Speaker 5>why because they eat meat and they eat butter, rich

0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:16.560
<v Speaker 5>fatty food.

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<v Speaker 2>On that note, We're going to go get a snack

0:49:18.280 --> 0:49:20.399
<v Speaker 2>ustick ground. Coming up is the Readependent Show