WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 4 June 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:06.640 From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live. How 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:07.520 I may come on in. 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:09.440 Let's have a chat at the end of hunt day 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:12.600 Here Wednesday night. Lots to fire up about, including two 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:15.720 very special guests, one in Melbourne, one in the man Cave. 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:17.240 None of the Lucy's elect. 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:19.560 Will join the team here at Paul Murray Live. Ready 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:20.160 to fire up. 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:21.840 We know she doesn't hold back in a great Stephen 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:25.239 Conoy is always here to help. The only place you 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:27.680 will see one of the best people who's ever looked 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:29.800 down the barrel of the camera, The wonderful Meghan Kelly 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:32.960 is here on Paul Murray Live each and every Wednesday Night. 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:39.040 She decided to take that clip and parley into her victimhood. 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:44.440 How people have doubted her as she becomes the country queen. 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:46.400 What is she talking about? 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:49.360 Well, Beyonce and somehow I'm involved in all of this. 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:52.240 I don't understand. I'm in the middle of a beef 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:54.320 between Beyonce and Meghan Kelly. 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:56.240 We all know I'm going to back Meghan Kelly all day, 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:56.960 every day. 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:00.080 But first let's start with the garbage that's going on 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:03.400 in Tasmania as we speak. By this time, the expectation 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:07.200 was that the government was going to fall. Well, probably 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:10.640 not tonight. We know Tasmania as gorgeous. Since twenty fourteen, 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:15.880 Liberal premiers have been the constant choice of the people 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:21.200 of Western Australia. First Will Hodgman, his second term was 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:24.839 a full majority. Then Peter Goodwin took over after Will 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:28.280 moved on, and now Jeremy Redcliff. 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:29.959 Who of course was the treaty with Peter Goodwin. He 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:33.000 won the election last year. 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:36.840 The election last year in Tasmania no did not produce 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:39.800 a majority of seats, but clearly the party with the 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:44.840 most support were the Liberals fourteen seats for short of 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:46.080 a majority. 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:47.720 But clearly clearly. 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:52.960 Above the Labor Party at ten, the Greens at five, 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:57.640 Independence including a former Labor leader who had been booted 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:02.680 out of the party, and the Jackie Lamby candidates who 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:06.720 by their own admission had no policies, but the power 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:10.800 of the re elected senator was able to produce those three. Now, 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:12.639 whether those three would have gone to the Libs or 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:15.760 two to one of who cares right, But the reality 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:18.560 was it was a government going for multiple terms and 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.400 the only reason there was a state election in Tasmania 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:25.520 last year was because at the previous election, again a 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:28.680 scenario where a majority had not been produced and slightly 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:32.240 maturely numbers get chipped away. Now we've seen this multiple 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:36.440 times over multiple years, where frankly, the Labor Party in 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:38.959 the Greens have tried to work together in my view, 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:44.040 to steal government. When the Liberal Party have got a 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:48.120 clear majority in a state that hasn't produced majority government 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:51.280 for a long time, they settled in on the person 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:54.160 we came to know as the Hamburglar. The former mayor 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:59.400 of Hobart, Sue Hickey, elected as a Liberal, got annoyed 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:02.560 because she was and made a minister, so the Greens 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:06.760 and Labor tallied up to make her the speaker, robbing 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:10.840 one vote of the majority and effectively government back into minority. 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:16.120 We've seen scenario after scenario. We're the Labor Party in 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:18.720 its multiple forms, no matter how many times it is 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:23.160 rejected by the people of Tasmania, finding some way to 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:26.760 try to blow up the government that got more votes, 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:32.920 the party that got more votes. Now, since twenty and fourteen, 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:36.800 Liberal and Labor governments have come and gone at the 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:41.560 federal level, Yet the obvious choice of the biggest chunk 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:43.880 of Tasmanians is that it should be a liberal who 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:47.960 is the premier. But we are in this ridiculous situation 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:51.680 where the Labor Party and the Greens, who remember, have 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:55.200 shown over how many terms, how many ways they have 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:59.920 tried to cut the knees of the Liberals because they 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:06.360 they took government away from diabolical coalitions of Labor and 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:08.720 Greens in the many many years before all of that. 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:12.560 How many times does TASMANI have to send the message 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:15.960 before Labor and the Greens back off. Well, the reality 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:20.280 is that they think that, just like a toddler pistering 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:23.479 you for a toy that they want or chocolates, that 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:25.720 if they yell long enough, eventually they will get what 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:26.160 they want. 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:29.200 Now, as you know, there. 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:31.760 Has been a no confidence motion that was expected to 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:35.880 have passed today with the support of the Greens, many 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:41.520 independents and the Labor Party. Now that has not taken place. 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:44.599 In fact, it has now been adjourned until tomorrow. No doubt, 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:49.360 frantic negotiations happening with the crossbench with the Greens. 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:51.960 But let's make this very clear. 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:56.560 The Labor Party can pretend that this is about oh, budgets, 0:04:56.640 --> 0:05:01.159 Budgets very important that we care about budgets. Mate, The 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:04.640 federal government is running one te for trillion dollars debt. 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.800 This government is absolutely running billions of dollars a debt, 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:12.840 no question whatsoever. Tasmania being a smaller state with the population, 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:16.359 it's capacity to pay it off anytime quickly undeniably difficult. 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:18.800 But let's be very serious. 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:24.240 The state Labor Party have tried to undermayre undermine not one, 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:28.880 not two, but three three Liberal premiers in a row, 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:33.880 effectively trying to become the government by stealing it without 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:34.400 an election. 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:37.720 This is the latest reason. 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:39.560 As to why they believe there should be at the 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.680 very least a removal of the premier at testing of 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:45.240 the numbers, a chance for a new government to come in, 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:48.080 or let's go off to an election. And then when 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:50.719 the people get annoyed with having election after election after election, 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:54.520 somehow they blame the Liberals, not Labor and the Greens 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:57.040 for forcing them to vote over and over again. 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:01.559 When this premier got into the job, there was barely 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:04.400 a billion dollars worth of net debt. Three years later 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:06.960 we're on a pathway towards eleven billion dollars worth of 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:12.280 net debt. It is staggering, extraordinary, reckless, irresponsible and how 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:15.880 could anyone support that the largest cash deficits every year 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:16.960 four ten years? 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:22.360 See what I'm holding it in? What sets me off 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.799 about this bloke? And before that, Rebecca White. Rebecca White 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:29.159 was a serial failure as the leader of the Labor 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:32.040 Party in Tasmania. But she looks good on television. She's 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.120 popular in the Seed of Lions. So now she's going 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:37.520 to be part of the Federal Parliament, she'll immediately slot 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:40.560 into the girl boss role and she will probably, like 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:43.920 a Christina can early go way beyond her station or ability. 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.000 But let's be very clear that people of Tasmania have 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:51.360 rejected them multiple times. The Labor Party kicked out one 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:55.360 of its own leaders, yet still the public turned around 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:57.240 and said, no, buggy, you were sending him back as 0:06:57.240 --> 0:07:01.839 an independent to the Parliament. If this bloke became premier, 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:06.479 this Labor leader, along with the Greens, oh, they're going 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:08.120 to say they're going to do something about debuty. You 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.200 and I both know exactly what they're going to do. Well, 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:12.080 we've had a look at the books and then they 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.320 look they're far worse than we thought. So all of 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:17.440 the plans to change anything. Yeah, look, we'll get there eventually. 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.400 And don't even get me started about this AFL stadium 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:24.000 and the AFL team. Now, I have been very skeptical 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:27.840 of this deal. I have spoken about how taxpayer's money 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:32.640 is introgal to the existence not just of the stadium 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:36.320 but also of the team. But the little doubt, the 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:39.120 little detail they always leave out of this conversation is 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:44.480 that Anthony Alberinezi and the federal government are also paying 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:51.200 for that stadium. They also support the team. Yet State Labor, 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:54.160 who have always tried to take a position against the 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:58.480 stadium because their support is in the south of the 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:02.440 state not the north of the state, is that they 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:06.640 have believed that this never should have happened. The problem 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:09.160 is Anthony Alberaneesi rolled into town at a time when 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:13.080 the Liberal Party had multiple seats, especially across the top 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:17.280 of the island, and now after a couple of electoral cycles, 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:21.520 it is now Labor everywhere bar one independent, and that 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:24.680 of course is Andrew Wilkie. So Labour is trying to 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:26.520 bring this on because they think that the tide is 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:29.280 so far out on the Liberals that they've lost all 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:31.960 of the federal seats. There that if there was an 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:33.600 election to be called, then they would romp it in 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:36.760 simply because they are team read Now, I'm not going 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:39.800 to pretend that I know Tasmanian politics inside out. Will 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:43.080 talk to somebody who does. But surely the people of Tasmania, 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:47.560 who had a wonderful choice of One Nation or Jackie 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:53.200 Lamby to send into the Senate, will not accept the 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:57.440 re election of a Labor government brought about by them 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:00.520 playing this game. But the reality is this is also 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:03.240 against the stadium Jackie Lamby. Guess who said that she's 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:05.439 not going to be doing anything in state politics again, 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:06.280 Jackie Lamby? 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:07.080 Do I believe her? 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:07.319 No? 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:10.760 Do I think that the vote that One Nation produced, 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.280 along with the vote that has traditionally been for the 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:16.040 Liberals in the north, would mean that probably the same, 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:19.040 if not slightly better, might be the result for the 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:20.680 Tasmanian Liberals at a next election. 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:21.080 Yeah. 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:25.480 Probably, But do not pretend there needs to be an 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:29.080 election in Tasmania that does not. The only reason it 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:32.600 is happening is because the Labor Party, for the third 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:36.880 time to a third premier is trying to steal government. 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:44.080 This is not standing up for budget discipline. This is 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:48.120 a tantrum on its way towards trying to tantrum and 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:48.880 bully their. 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:50.480 Way back into high power. 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:52.880 Now, if you thought labor in the Greens was a 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:54.720 bad thing in Canberra, I'll give you the tip. It 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:59.719 is horrific, so horrific in Tasmania that, regardless of how Australia, 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.760 Tasmania has felt about the federal government at every state 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:07.720 election since twenty fourteen, they have kept the Liberal premiere. 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:10.880 For his part, Jeremy Rockcliffe, Well, he's going to fight 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:13.360 and we've had plenty of differences over the years and 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:16.680 I don't know whether me backing him in is a 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:18.800 good thing or not for him, But I'll say this, 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:22.840 he was able to form the party with the biggest 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:24.800 number of votes and the biggest number of seats to 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:26.960 hold on to government for as long as possible. The 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:29.920 idea of it being tipped out by bastards who have 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:32.840 been trying to steal it for more than ten years 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:36.600 is outrageous. This is what he had to say. 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:37.160 In Parliament today. 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:46.400 This day, it might not end well for me, but 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:51.240 this day will define you. This day will define you 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:56.240 exactly for the rest of your political career. Where you 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:02.680 are now will have the stigma as leader of. 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:03.199 Being a wrecker. 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:08.000 One hundred percent. One hundred percent. Let's see what happens 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:10.000 in the next twenty four hours. In the next few minutes, 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:11.319 we'll talk to somebod who knows a lot more about 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:14.120 TASMANI in politics. I'm'm missing something here. I get that 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:16.520 there's personality issues from time to time. As it said, 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.280 I butted heads with Jeremy Rockcliffe. But I'm sorry, this 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:21.960 is a very very cheap way of trying to change 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:23.560 your government. We'll all find out together in a couple 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.880 of minutes. All right, Now, we know the Prime Minister 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:31.839 was distracting Australia and successfully say by telling lies during 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:34.560 the election. This is all you'll need to see a doctor, 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:37.719 despite the fact that what eighty five percent of doctor said, No, no, 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:40.760 you'll still need to bring your credit card. We know 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:42.920 that Jim Chalmers, desperate to try to turn around from 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:44.760 not being there for the majority of Australians when it 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:46.520 came to cost of living, of course, was out and 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:48.600 about pretending to be a member of the SEES when 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:51.079 we all know he wasn't in the cyclone that of 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:54.760 course was not as well. But all of this successfully 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:57.080 was able to change the subject. Poles told us at 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:59.160 the beginning of the year, we wanted to change your government. 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:02.280 Then a whole bunch of very deeply personal attacks, bs 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:04.720 own goals and all the rest of it resulted in 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:08.320 not a government going backwards, instead putting the accelerated down 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:10.360 and getting as many seats in the Parliament as John 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:11.920 Howard did in nineteen ninety five. 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:16.079 It is their time, but. 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:18.880 It just shows just how successful their ability to distract 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:23.360 the Australian population from its reality actually was about how 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:25.440 you can get away with anything if most of the 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:29.760 media is on your side. The Australian economy is back 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:31.600 where it was for the best part of the past 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.959 two years, where the average citizen was going backwards. The 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:38.280 only reason the country was technically growing was because of 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:40.120 the beatings of dollars being pittled up against the wall 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:42.719 by the federal government on the federal government, by and 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:47.480 for the federal government. Economic growth in Australia was looking 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:51.440 okay towards the end of last year, but it was 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.160 pretty crappy for most of last year. This time last year, 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:57.600 point one of one percent remember anything under zero, so 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:01.160 say minus zero point one percent for two quarters in 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:04.520 a row. That is a recession. We have been like 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:07.800 a car idling at the lights in terms of growth 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:10.840 point one point two point three. We did start to 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.600 move at point six, but that's not massive. Well guess what, bang, 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:15.560 we're straight back to where we were. The car is 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:19.760 stalling again. But oh, because we're talking about Peter Dutton 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:21.720 bad and where's nuclear power going to go? 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:22.439 And there's a. 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:25.720 Problem with whomen all of the other garbage, all that 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:29.720 other stuff, not to mention the behavior, yes of Donald Trump, 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:32.800 and of course the reduction in interest rates in February. 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:37.800 The reality is that Australia decided to rehire the authors 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:43.720 of this economy for the next three years. Well, today 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:45.679 the headlines say it all that Australia is on the 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:49.520 brink of a recession because literally, if the overall growth 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.360 right now is zero point two, the chances of it 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:55.320 going to zero point three or zero point one probably 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:58.240 equal the idea of it going under that and us 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:03.640 beginning the process of set of three months and another 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:05.520 three set of three months for a recession. 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:07.079 Maybe. But of course, to talk about any of this 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:08.320 during the campaign. 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:11.199 Was talking down the economy while the economy was going down. 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:16.360 As the Daily Mail right about it today, Australia's on 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:19.240 the brink of sliding back into another recession. Major blow 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:22.440 to Anthony Aberneese's government. Of course, it doesn't matter because 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:26.040 they're back in there, sitting pretty the opposition reduced to 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:29.720 a rump barely holding itself together in terms of the coalition, 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:34.200 but fared income, can we be very serious here about what. 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:35.720 Took place today? 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:40.360 The Australian economy is spluttering yet again, and of course 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:42.320 the federal government. The only reason we are sitting at 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:45.080 zero one zero two zero three is because of that 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:49.520 government spending. That government spending that results in borrowed money, 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.400 borrowed money that takes us from one trillion to one 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:54.440 point two to one point five to one point seven 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:58.800 to two trillion dollars debt, not one budget surplus for 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:04.080 the next forty years. Yet, because the people can be distracted, 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:08.560 because the people can be lied to, because the media 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:12.080 are part of that lie, they get away with it. 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:15.920 Well as they were getting away with it, Australia's economy 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:20.240 was starting to splutter or pull to a stop. Someone 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:21.760 smarter than me can explain. 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:25.160 It was a fairly shabby number. We would have liked 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:27.520 to have seen a higher growth figure for the quarter. 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:31.320 Our own projections were for zero point three percent, so 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:34.520 we expected a higher number, and that was after we 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:38.640 revised our forecast down after some weak GDP partials that 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:39.960 came out yesterday. 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.320 So it was a soft number. 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.680 Soft number feed inkin like as soft as soft could 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:49.640 be tissue paper soft, right with the economy being a 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:52.360 truck that's going to drive through it feeding. As for 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:54.800 the treasure, of course, nothing to see here. I'm amazing, 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:57.440 Thank goodness for voting for us. Did you remember how 0:15:57.480 --> 0:15:59.800 much I helped during the floods. I know it'll be 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:03.200 me versus anaical worlds at the next run to be 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:04.560 Prime minister, but remember me. 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:07.960 I'm the one who's saved Australia from me. 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:12.960 It's clear from this data that in the March quarter 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:17.520 our growth was subdued in our economy, also clear that 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:22.120 our economy is not productive enough. But I also wanted 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:26.240 to offer this perspective when you look at these numbers today, 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:32.960 no major advanced economy has our combination of unemployment in 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:36.520 the low fource, inflation below two and a half percent, 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:39.560 and three years of continuous growth. 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:42.240 This guy, Remember, his. 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:46.320 Doctorate is not in an economy, it's about in how 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:49.840 to sell an economy, how to sell what Paul Kenning 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:54.880 did in Australia, brought it up in droves and by 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:59.720 the spoonful, couldn't get enough again blazon on the back 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:02.240 of my the mob always gets it right. But these 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:04.840 people lied their way. They absolutely lied their way in 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:07.240 last time, and they trebled down this time, and the 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:08.679 media absolutely helped. 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:09.880 Unbelievable. 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:13.199 Right, Well, the reality of the economy was it was spluttering. 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:14.760 Oh but that's all Donald Trump's stop. 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:17.800 Yeah, Okay, the stock market went down and there's now 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:22.600 back to a record high. Now we like to talk 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:27.160 about AI artificial intelligence because I don't know this part 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:29.440 of this that is amazing and fun. 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:30.560 To play with and part of it that's a little 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:31.480 bit scary. 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:36.359 Perfect example, when I was with the girls tonight, we 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:38.359 were just mucking around with AI and they said, hey, Dad, 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:40.760 can can you get touch ABT to make pictures of you? 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:45.240 So here's one of me writing a cow. That's what 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:48.520 Asher wanted to see, and then there's me riding a 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:51.199 turtle and that's what Zadi wanted to see on TV. 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:54.919 Then my wife for some reason said dolphin. So Shanni, 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:58.520 there's me writing a dolphin on TV again. Fun right, 0:17:58.600 --> 0:17:59.919 like fun, cool thing. 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.280 To do, right. I don't want anyone creative to lose 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:03.000 their job below. 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:06.000 Fun stuff you can do with AI. Reality though, is, 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:07.960 of course, there are many, many, many people are very 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:11.040 anxious about what it's going to do to employment. If 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:12.960 things can be done very quickly by a computer that 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:14.840 used to take a lot more time for human beings 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:18.679 to do well, that is a world of pain. But 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:21.159 one of the bobber boys of Anthony Abernezi, one of 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:24.360 the old union heavies, which of course now means he's 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:27.840 a senator. Senator Tim Ayres says this. 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:29.719 Is a perfect opportunity. 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:34.280 For unions, unions, the good old fashioned union to get 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:38.920 involved now, despite the fact that when it comes to unions, 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:42.879 you need to remember they're just seven point nine percent, 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:48.679 less than eight percent of people in the public private sector. 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:52.280 My apologies. If you work for the government, state or federal, 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:55.560 thirty two percent of those people are part of a union. 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:59.280 If you work for a business, less than eight we're 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:03.440 on this brand new technological age of AI. Yet the 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:08.120 bother boy from a labor Party and the good old 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:11.520 fashioned union boy in the Labor Party says no na 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:15.919 the twenty first century, that's the time for the union 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:21.000 movement fdich. He was addressing a AI conference. This one 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:24.359 was run by the Australian Financial Review in the Science 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:27.439 and Industry Minister has signaled a bigger role for trade 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:32.280 unions in influencing our Australian companies incorporate artificial intelligence advances 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:35.720 into their workplace practices amid growing concerns that AI would 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:40.119 replace swedes of white collar jobs. Just before we get 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:41.560 to his quote, come back to me for a second, 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:43.600 because you want to know the idea of how some 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:46.200 of this technology works when it comes to the dark 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:48.960 eyed ages of the unions that are still running the 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:51.879 show for the Labor Party. In twenty twenty five in 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:55.080 New South Whales, they have invented this incredible new system 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:59.119 of metro lines. Metro lines that mean none of the 0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:01.480 train lines intersec like spaghetti any more, Meaning if there's 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:03.560 a problem with this one, it doesn't affect that one. 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:08.600 It is effectively an automatic system and they don't need drivers. 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:14.399 Oh but the unions, the unions, they shut down the 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:17.320 network week after week, day after day, took us back 0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:20.440 to the bloody eighteen twenties, and now there is a 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:23.080 human being sitting in the front of a train of 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:27.960 which the human being isn't driving. But that's the take 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:33.040 now of twenty first century. Freshly re elected, rejuvenated and 0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:37.320 reminted labor unions part of the future. When it comes 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:39.840 to Ai, let's pick it up with his exact quote 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:42.919 that he made to the conference Economic growth and productivity, 0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:46.000 and AI's role within that means so much in terms 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:49.840 of the world of work, high wages, opportunity and social equity. 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:51.639 Now what does equity mean, kids? 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:58.119 Equity is different than equality because it means regardless of 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:01.719 where you start, you all end in the same place. 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:05.080 It doesn't matter whether you put all the effort in 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:07.840 or four fifths of buggaraw, we all end up in 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:08.840 the same place. 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:13.560 Perhaps the reason I'm wearing the red jacket, that's. 0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:17.040 What these people are about. Freshly re elected because people 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:20.879 fell for the medicare garbage or the scares or the 0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:23.399 own goals or the failures of the opposition of the 0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:27.920 last election. Faed ink Anyway, Dave Sharma, he pushes back here, 0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:30.040 but I'll tell you a bit more about sorry, I 0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:34.680 confuse my own team there, Dave Sharma. He says Tim 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:38.480 Ayres is wrong. Union should not control AI use in workplace. 0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:41.840 It is retrograde and risks Australia falling behind the rest 0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:46.159 of the world. In the embrace and exploitation of AI, 0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:49.760 it threatens to turn artificial intelligence to a tool to 0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:53.520 be exploited by unions In industrial relations bargaining, it sets 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:58.720 up an unhelpful dynamic suggesting that business will gain but 0:21:58.840 --> 0:22:03.560 workers will lose from artificial intelligence. In fact, as the 0:22:03.600 --> 0:22:07.119 historical record of new technology suggests, workers stand to gain 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:11.360 as much from tools to make their lives easier and 0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:16.800 their time more productive. Let's talk about what is taking 0:22:16.800 --> 0:22:21.160 place in Tasmania right now, guys. My apologies here, which 0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:23.120 is I want to talk to Matthew Denham. Matthew Dinam 0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:25.440 is writing for the Australian newspaper about what is taking 0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:28.359 place when it comes to Tasmania and its politics, and 0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:31.520 he joins us, now, thank you very much, Matthew. So 0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:34.879 stay of execution for twenty four hours is the expectation 0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:38.320 that the premiere is trying to work over the Greens 0:22:38.359 --> 0:22:41.400 to push them back unlikely or work over the crossbrench 0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:44.240 or double check whether he's ready to go to an election. 0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:47.320 By lunchtime to morrow, we'll. 0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:49.320 Look probably a little bit of both of those things. 0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:51.720 I think there's still probably a little bit of a 0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:54.000 hope that the cross Bench might go a week at 0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:57.520 the knees between now and tomorrow when the vote should 0:22:57.560 --> 0:22:59.800 finally be taken after a very long day to day. 0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:05.639 But really I think that's a pretty slim hope. So really, 0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:07.560 you know, you've got this kind of standoff. Really you've 0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:10.600 got a premier who's lost the confidence of the House. 0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:14.159 On the one hand, he's refusing to resign and is 0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:17.520 you know, saying he's going to force an election rather 0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:21.159 than resign. And on the other hand, you've got Labor, 0:23:21.200 --> 0:23:25.320 the cross Bench and the Greens refusing to back down 0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:28.520 on their no confidence motions. So those two things will 0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:34.000 probably collide tomorrow and it's hard to see an avoidance 0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:37.399 of a state election unless someone gives ground, unless the 0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:40.719 Premier resigns or the Liberal Party decides that they will 0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:43.480 replace him to stay in office with a different leader. 0:23:44.680 --> 0:23:46.399 And the governor will have something to say about this 0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:49.639 as well. Was actually the acting governor because the Governor's 0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:53.280 away at the moment. So it's all pretty fluid at 0:23:53.280 --> 0:23:53.880 the moment here. 0:23:54.680 --> 0:23:55.480 Wow, I'll tell you what. 0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:57.240 Look, it might be an awful lot of kilometers that 0:23:57.240 --> 0:23:59.080 you've got to cover, but there's many balls in the 0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:02.000 air right now. But where's the governor, the Phillin governor, 0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:02.800 all the rest of it? 0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:03.080 Here? 0:24:03.240 --> 0:24:05.520 Look again, I mean you know where I'm coming from, 0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:08.080 which is somebody towards the said right of Australian politics. 0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:10.760 But what annoys me here is that what we are 0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:15.680 seeing play out in Tasmania is a result of minority government. 0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:17.560 It's a minority government, not of one or two, it's 0:24:17.560 --> 0:24:21.320 a minority government of the best part of four. That 0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:25.200 means that the Lambie people who broke away from the 0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:28.520 Lambey Parliament, who basically a newbies and frankly still probably 0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:32.320 don't know where the toilets are right now, are understandably 0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:35.640 fired up. There are some betrayals that have happened when 0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:38.520 it comes to this government. But am I right in 0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:42.840 part of my assessment here that labor how many times 0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:46.280 over how many terms have tried to disrupt or knock 0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:49.919 over a sitting re elected government. Here we saw it 0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:54.520 when it came to Sue Hickey becoming the speaker. We've 0:24:54.560 --> 0:24:57.320 seen it in my view multiple times before. Will Hodgman, 0:24:57.400 --> 0:24:59.439 of course had to fight two elections to be out 0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:02.040 in his own ryle and that's when the Hamburglar incident 0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:05.760 took place. Why is it so unstable there? And will 0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:08.480 the Tasmanian people look poorly on Labor if we have 0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:09.800 to have an election because of this? 0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:11.400 Yeah? 0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:14.200 Well on that last point, you know both the leaders, 0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:17.560 both Jeremy Rockcliffe for the Liberal premier and Dean went 0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:21.320 to the Labor leader. They're both kind of already trying 0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:23.119 to play the blame game and blame each other for 0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:25.480 the election if it does occur. You know, it's only 0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:27.879 fifteen or less than fifteen months is the last one, 0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:30.399 So it's going to be deeply unpopular, right, Tasmanians have 0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:35.040 voted federally Lessle of Council election and now potentially another 0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:38.199 state election. So the blame game has already started in 0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:42.399 case that does eventuate tomorrow. But really, you know, I 0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:45.760 don't think Labor, I personally, I don't think Labor expected 0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:48.280 an election to be on the cards. They thought this 0:25:48.480 --> 0:25:51.400 was more about potentially you know, wedging the cross bench, 0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:55.000 forcing them to kind of disassociate from the Liberal government 0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:59.440 which they prop up and also perhaps you know, getting 0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:04.119 rid of Rockliffe, so delivering a wound but not actually 0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:07.000 killing the government. So I don't think they really expected it, 0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:10.439 you know, the Liberal Party to unite behind Rockcliffe in 0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:14.520 the way they have so far. Having said that, you know, 0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:17.080 it's it's a long time between now and tomorrow morning 0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:19.760 and little Ane tomorrow afternoon if it goes that long, 0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:24.240 so who knows, We could see, we could see the 0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:28.800 Liberals to side to persuade Jeremy to move on in 0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:32.280 order to avoid a state election, because you're right, Tasmanians 0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:35.520 don't want another election and you know it's costly, it's 0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:39.160 not good for business confidence and the electoral system here, 0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:42.560 you know, going back to your original question, you know 0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:46.840 it's the hair clerk proportional representation system. So you know, 0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:49.320 in a very pure sense it's quite democratic, but it's 0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:54.119 it does make for minority governments and they can can 0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:55.679 be unstable from time to time. 0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:58.600 Now, I know it's impossible to set upside the past 0:26:58.640 --> 0:27:01.199 eighteen months in just this discreet little TV hit, but 0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:06.280 I mean you've seen plenty are things as out of 0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:09.480 control as to deserve this moment because we know, of course, 0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:11.919 way back in the nineteen seventies it was it was 0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:14.280 very significant, you know, for a bill not to be 0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:17.439 able to pass through to become a law, or the 0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:20.840 budget papers and all that stuff when it came to whitlam. 0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:25.840 But yes, government debt bad, no question. Buggarizing around when 0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:28.640 it comes to ferries not good. But it's not deep corruption. 0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:31.640 It's not you know, acts of criminality. We are talking here, 0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:34.000 you know, frankly about what are they going to be 0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:36.280 really going to fire up about a stadium of which 0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:39.840 the federal Labor Party is backing in here? I mean, look, 0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:42.480 I know they're making the most of the numbers around them. 0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:44.880 Is it fair for me to observe and say, look, 0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:45.879 is there a fire burning? 0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:48.840 You bet you? Is it structural? Probably not? 0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:50.200 Yeah. 0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:52.480 Look, I think even you know, a Labor Party that 0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:57.680 initiated this motion would would not be alleging malfeasans or corruption. Really, 0:27:57.720 --> 0:28:02.040 their claim is incompetence basically, and to be fair, there 0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:05.680 is quite a bit of ammunition to support that claim. 0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:10.520 You know, they wasted millions, tens and millions or more, 0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:14.359 you know, building new ships and they're not bothering to 0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:16.600 actually have an infrastructure any war for them to dock 0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:21.680 at them, and it's just crazy stuff. And obviously they're 0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:25.480 doubling state debt from five billion to ten billion in 0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:29.000 a matter of years, and the stadium has some you know, 0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:32.359 he has some strong support, but also a lot of detractors, 0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:34.320 and you know he's going to cost a lot of 0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:36.360 money at the same time as that debt's going up. 0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:39.400 So there are some real issues. But you're right now 0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:43.480 on so alleging malfeasance by any means. It's more about 0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:46.120 the competence of the government. And as I said, Labour's 0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:48.600 aim I think was to kind of novel the premiere 0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:52.840 and they thought perhaps Eric Kabbats or one of the 0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:56.160 Conservatives would take over and that they might be less 0:28:56.160 --> 0:29:01.160 palatable to the electroate. But that may still happen, but 0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:04.960 at the moment we seem to be inching towards the 0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:09.240 state election very very slowly. Yeah, sometime tomorrow maybe I 0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:09.680 get the. 0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:10.960 Sense of it, and I look forward to seeing you 0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:12.320 on the trail. Thank you so much, matter to. 0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:14.800 Appreciate it you book. Keep reading you in the Australian newspaper. 0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:16.560 What a fascinating thing there, Matthew Din. 0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:19.640 Of course, with the information coming out off Tasmania election 0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:21.400 by this time tomorrow or a new premier, we'll all 0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:22.040 find out together. 0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:24.400 But either way, Labor hang your head in shame. No 0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:25.320 matter how this results. 0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:27.280 If you end up winning every seat in the parliament, 0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:29.880 what a disgrace, truly disgraceful. We'll find out what I 0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:31.640 panel think next to you on Paul Murray Live and 0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:39.000 then Meghan Kelly before we're done, depending on where you're 0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:41.360 watching us. It's bloody cold right now. We'll get even 0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:44.520 colder tonight, particularly in and around parts of New South Wales. 0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:48.400 The snow is making its way. Of course this weekend 0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:51.320 King's Birthday weekend, regardless of when his birthday actually is. 0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:55.040 Happy birthday, Chuck. We'll take the long weekend. But it's 0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:58.240 the start of the ski season, so yes, it's very cold. 0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:00.880 Scotty's Weather will explain what happens next. 0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:06.160 We did see a dusting over the last thirty six hours, 0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:08.200 but there's could be a lot more than that. With 0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:12.520 this system coming through from Saturday, we'll start seeing snow 0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:15.360 that blue line anytime it's across the resorts. That means 0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:19.840 snow will be falling below fourteen hundred meters. Most of 0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:23.000 the models are indicating between thirty and seventy seven meters 0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:26.000 of snow for all of the major ski resorts. 0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:29.560 Now the Australian Institute of Sport ruled me to be 0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:32.000 an unco back as a kid. That continues to be 0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:34.600 reaffirmed and any opportunity I've got anywhere near it. It 0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:38.760 is confirmed Stephen Conroy loves the world of skiing, so 0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:40.520 that's why I give him a little bit of information. 0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:43.240 He's just here to help. And Lucy's early. How good 0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:45.200 to have her here too. Where are you on the 0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:47.360 snow sports? Are you the type of person who loves it? 0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:49.960 Or like me? And I'll just have a smoke next. 0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:51.880 To the five let me tell you when the Winter Olympics, 0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:53.920 Paul in first and foremost, thank you for giving me 0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:56.040 the opportunity. Happy to have here program, and I know 0:30:56.160 --> 0:31:00.160 that mister Conroy there also loves his football too. We're 0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:03.440 had a similar journey over the years. But when it 0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:05.920 comes to ski sports, I would love to sit by 0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:07.680 the fire like you and happy to tune into the 0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:10.840 Winter Olympics and barrack for Australia correct. 0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:12.720 But Stephen, though he's licking his lips, how good it 0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:15.080 is going to be now speaking of what the hell 0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:17.880 is happening in Tasmania? Right now, Stephen, where let's be 0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:21.560 honest right now? Okay, you know we know the history 0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:24.040 that is taught the left wing version of the dismissal 0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:26.920 in and around the seventies, of course reaffirmed by the 0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:29.360 Australian public. This always left out of the textbooks, not 0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:32.600 once but twice after that moment. But now we're going 0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:35.800 to have a scenario where Labour, who've tried to kneek 0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:38.160 up the Libs for multiple times in Tasmania, look like 0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:40.200 they might get there, and we're off to an election 0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:42.120 and who knows the whole joint's read at the federal 0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:43.920 so who knows what's going to happen at the state election. 0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:46.080 But do you agree with me that perhaps we should 0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:50.400 actually save these moments for when something maybe criminal has happened, 0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:54.000 something borderline criminal has happened. Because of pissing money against 0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:55.680 a wall is a reason to get rid of a government? 0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:58.840 Can you join me down at Government House in Victoria 0:31:58.880 --> 0:31:59.640 tomorrow morning. 0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:06.960 Well, look, firstly, Paul, just to correct one of your analogies. 0:32:07.480 --> 0:32:11.560 In ninety seventy five, the Senate blocked. Supply correct, the 0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:15.960 House of Representatives, the chamber in which government is formed, 0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:19.760 had nothing to do with the blocking and bringing down 0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:22.040 of the government. What you have in Tasmania is a 0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:26.560 lower House that they decided they wanted to expand the number. 0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:29.720 I thought it was brave slash courageous to borrow. 0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:30.200 From so Humbri. 0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:34.120 And what this has led to is neither party was 0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:35.920 going to go close to a majority. So you were 0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:39.240 never going to have, as you had under the old parliament, 0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:44.800 an easy path to thirteen seats or what is it now, 0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:52.080 seventeen lives out thirty five. So this was a decision. Yeah, 0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:55.480 this was a decision taken by the Tasmanian Liberal government 0:32:56.640 --> 0:33:02.400 and it's ultimately come back to bite them. So, I mean, sometimes, 0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:04.600 you know, karma really does catch up with you. But 0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:07.280 people told them this would happen, said you won't form 0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:10.280 a majority, and now it's the floor of the house 0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:14.160 in which you choose the government. And I think this 0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:16.240 is a monumentally incompetent government. 0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:18.720 Yeah, fine, fair enough, but an election is supposed to 0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:21.360 But I'm saying elections are supposed to solve that, aren't 0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:24.960 they lucy? Not the numbers on the floor. Now again 0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:28.600 we saw there was the minority government that's existed for 0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:31.560 multiple state governments all over the shop. For the Gillard government, Yes, 0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:34.959 constant pressure, but you've really got to pick your moment 0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:37.480 for when you want to pull one of these things on. 0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:42.160 And unless you've got an unless you've actually got a 0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:44.880 plan to turn around the thing that you're claiming is broken. 0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:46.600 And I don't think this bloke's got any idea. 0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:49.320 We're starting a ten billion dollars debt, So why don't 0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:51.520 we talk about all the other states and territories that 0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:54.120 are experiencing monumental debt? Why do we talk about the 0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:56.160 federal debt that we're now staring down the barrel of 0:33:56.200 --> 0:34:00.440 which is one point trillion dollars of debt? Why didn't 0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:03.000 we issue were no confidence vote in Victoria with Dan 0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:06.440 Andrews after the you know, the the lunatic if I 0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:12.319 could call him that as respectfully, but you know, after 0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:16.440 that lunatic totally destroyed the city right through the COVID period. 0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:19.120 What about the monumental debt that's been left for David 0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:22.840 Chris of Fooley from the former Labor government in Anastasia Palache. 0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:25.399 So really to wish you are no confidence vote over 0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:27.960 something like this, and to think that the Liberal Party 0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:30.640 could lose its leadership over, let's be frank, a very 0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:34.360 controversial decision and to quote Jackie Lamby, stick your stadium 0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:37.520 up your butt. I mean, come on. And Andrew Bolt 0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:39.399 rightly said, is this woman ever going to be able 0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:41.080 to just kind of rein it in a little bit 0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:41.960 because although. 0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:44.239 She has been rewarded, well, she does. 0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:46.319 But maybe she is speaking to a core constituent of 0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:49.560 people who finally feel as though they're also being seen 0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:52.000 because we're getting so caught up in political speak here, 0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:55.480 but I think to drag Tasmanians through this circus, who 0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:57.799 are also the same time having to fend off, you know, 0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:00.640 threats from Tanya Plibask over the salmon farming and the 0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:03.880 threat to five thousand jobs already they've been through enough. 0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:06.239 But also there's such a North South divide and this 0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:08.640 is part of the extra members in parliament which helped 0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:11.839 produce those extra members, particularly those extras. When it comes 0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:13.800 to Lamby that she wasn't able to hold on to 0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:16.759 is it literally? Look and I love Tasmania. Right, this 0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:20.000 is nominally bad and it's just saying literally when there 0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:23.360 is a public holiday for the southern half of Tasmania 0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:25.120 that's at a different time of the year to the 0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:28.319 one for northern Tasmania. Okay, so their politics and many 0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:30.680 other things end up being quite divided. Everyone's heard the 0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:35.440 number so far tonight, nine billion dollars in counting. Wow, 0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:40.600 some of these climate change bills. Again, as Andrews said today, 0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:43.560 remember when Kevin Rudd said it would just cost a dollar, 0:35:44.160 --> 0:35:47.239 just a dollar per person. Reality though, is we can't 0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:50.960 hide from it. Loose Australia rehired them and how. 0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:53.520 Well this is the problem, right, is that they won 0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:57.400 the election based on not just lies surrounding medi scare 0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:00.000 nuclear energy, which they said was going to cost you know, 0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:01.680 upwards of six hundred billion dollars. 0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:02.600 That was a lie. 0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:04.480 But they won the election in the face of a 0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:07.239 cost of living crisis, having spent four hundred million dollars 0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:10.600 on the failure of the voice, a housing crisis, one 0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:13.800 point one point one million people coming through the gates 0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:16.320 you're in Australia, which I would deem an immigration crisis 0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:18.840 because what is it then done Paul. The consequence of 0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:22.200 it has been further pressure on our medical system and 0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:25.919 our house price. It's got longer, every queue got longer, right, 0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:27.920 And so they were able to successfully win in the 0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:30.680 face of all of this, which is actually terrifying when 0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:33.000 you think about it, and it's something that you also 0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:35.239 pushed in the lead up through the election campaign. Do 0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:37.839 you research, know who you're voting for? Look at your 0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:39.799 preference cars, it'd seem what's just happened in the Sea 0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:42.800 of Bradfield correct, which is very interesting as well. And 0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:45.520 some of these votes not being countered because preferences weren't 0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:48.520 correctly entered. So there's so much to think about in 0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:50.600 all of this. But the fact that it's nine billion 0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:54.080 dollars now and it's increased in that period in the 0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:57.920 last decade from six hundred million to that now is 0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:02.279 just it's a shameful, shameful exercise, this pursuit of ned zero. 0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:05.480 But Stephen, is the reality that hey, ninety five seats, 0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:07.120 we went up, we didn't go backwards. 0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:09.840 The know not that it matters. 0:37:09.840 --> 0:37:13.000 The first pole post election shows, you know, it's one 0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:15.640 hundred and ten percent to minus four hundred percent. I 0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:17.880 think they got the North Korean counters to come in 0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:20.440 and have a look at that. But I mean still 0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:22.719 it's it's huge amounts of money. Again, if we're talking 0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:25.120 about you, Tazzy, government's going to get rolled over ten 0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:29.920 billion dollars. This is nine billion dollars in one year. 0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:35.279 Which is still an awful lot less than the six 0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:40.560 hundred billion dollars the opposition went to the government went 0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:44.959 to the government, all right, I will use David lil 0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:48.680 Proud's number, three hundred billion dollars. You started his number, 0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:53.200 said publicly no, but I'm prepared to say we'll concede 0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:57.080 that three hundred billion dollars to do the nuclear conversion. 0:37:57.600 --> 0:37:59.520 So nine billion it's a bit less. 0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:03.960 But the cso that that that that changing from the 0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:06.080 system that we've had to the three wheel car now 0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:08.640 used to be a trillion, Now it's half a trillion dollars. 0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:11.239 Three hundred billion would be less than half a trillion, right, 0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:12.960 we agree, and that basic maths. 0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:18.000 No, Unfortunately, this sense reward does not say. 0:38:18.360 --> 0:38:20.360 Oh, hang on that it's now half a trillion and 0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:22.640 it's five hundred billion dollars to the cost of transitional 0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:25.239 sentity is the Energy Works report. 0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:28.720 That there's a transition. Transition is different from the actual 0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:32.480 cost of the build, okay, and the Liberals have not 0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:36.200 costed their transition. Okay, they got to three hundred or 0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:38.480 six hundred, depending on who you want to believe. With 0:38:38.600 --> 0:38:42.719 our covering transmission is imagine what it would have been 0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:43.720 with transmission. 0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:46.480 Scrub the deflection though, Stephen, because at the end of 0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:51.600 but at the end of the day, mate, we're talking 0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:53.719 in semantics. We've got a moratorium. We can't even have 0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:56.120 a discussion about nuclear in this country right, so we 0:38:56.160 --> 0:38:58.160 can't even put it out to market to talk about that. 0:38:58.239 --> 0:38:59.600 Let's talk about the nine. 0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:01.400 Billion doll It wasn't going to market. 0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:02.440 We're staring down. 0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:03.520 Going to market. 0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:04.920 Well, it should go out to. 0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:07.480 The Liberal Party policy with the government. 0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:11.160 One hundred dollars policy voice. Why don't we actually spend 0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:14.440 money on a referendum on energy and let the Australian 0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:17.320 people decide once and for all so we can finally 0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:20.359 have some certainty around the direction this country is going 0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:22.560 in with energy. We look at our allies across the 0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:26.360 UK and the US, they have bipartisan support for nuclear energy. 0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:29.960 There is an understanding even those radical lunatics, the Democrats 0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:33.160 can agree that nuclear is the right path forward, and 0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:36.719 we are sitting here still debating on whether or not 0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:41.839 renewable energies is costing us billions of dollars it is. 0:39:41.880 --> 0:39:43.719 That's a face I've got to get to. 0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:45.920 Give me thirty seconds, Stephen. 0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:48.960 I'm glad. I'm glad you haven't got on in the 0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:49.920 year twenty forty. 0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:55.279 Look at that, not even going. 0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:57.719 To twenty forty to get cheaper power, beells and electricity. 0:39:57.120 --> 0:40:01.399 On getting those transmission lines up twenty forty. Thank you, 0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:03.640 build off all the farmland, mister Conroy. 0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:06.279 I love these too. Rip it in. I can hear 0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:09.120 you cheering from home. Thank you, Lucy, Thank you, Steven. 0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:11.880 Meghan Kelly is next. We just keep getting better and better. 0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:21.120 And dollo dalad, how are you saying to sea. 0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:21.960 Our favorite time of the week to talk to our 0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:24.040 favorite person in the world, the one, the only, Meghan 0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:24.880 Kelly rockstar. 0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:25.640 How's your week been? 0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:28.160 It's been spectacular. 0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:29.439 How's yours made? 0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:30.080 Very good? 0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:32.719 Now let's get to the biggest story in the world 0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:34.600 right now. This is the one I want to set 0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:37.440 the record straight, which is that I was watching your 0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:42.160 show and I have seen you calling out beyoncey for 0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:45.000 stealing content from our conversations. 0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:49.200 Beyonce, who's on some world tour right now reinventing herself 0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:53.560 as a country star, is running video tape during the 0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:58.080 show of yours. Truly, I believe it is a clip 0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:02.479 from me on the Paul Murrie's show out of Sky 0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:04.920 News Australia, which I do once a week because I 0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:09.160 adore him. Yes, believe it or not. In addition to 0:41:09.200 --> 0:41:14.239 all your great viewers, Beyonce is watching and she's got 0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:20.040 tissue paper thin skin, and was very deeply offended Paul 0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:24.879 that we had a discussion not recognizing Queen Bay as 0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:27.800 the new ruler of country music, that we might have 0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:31.680 had a couple of doubts about whether she would revolutionize 0:41:31.680 --> 0:41:35.280 this genre that's been around for a long time before 0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:38.520 she decided to stick her toe into it and she 0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:42.640 decided to take that clip and parley it into her victimhood. 0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:48.040 How people have doubted her as she becomes the country queen. 0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:52.520 Now, I'm sorry, I'm a Chris Stipleton manor Rod hardcore 0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:55.839 every word, every album, every song, Rod. 0:41:56.880 --> 0:41:58.320 I can't stand that. 0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:00.759 You know Fawn fair enough, She's in the finals when 0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:03.040 it comes to the Grammys of you know, a country 0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:04.759 Artist of the EO Country Album of the Year. 0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:07.680 She made Chris Stipleton not acceptable, not okay. 0:42:08.120 --> 0:42:11.080 Just because you dress up like a country star does 0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:12.680 not make you a country star. 0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:17.000 Cash cash old. If Chris Stapleton had married jay Z, 0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:19.520 he would have had it. These things are bought and 0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:22.160 paid for. I mean, it's really obvious. And all of 0:42:22.160 --> 0:42:24.759 her marketing is bought and paid for by jay Z. 0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:27.399 If you married jay Z, you could be as big 0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:29.879 a star as Beyonce. And how do I know that, Paul, 0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:32.200 no offense. But if you look at her now, it's 0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:35.120 tough to tell the two of you apart, it's Beyonce. 0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:39.000 It's not today what she used to be. 0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:40.200 Wow. 0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:45.760 Still she gets this glowing coverage everywhere because she's Queen Bee. 0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:48.560 Because these two run around like a couple of mob bosses. 0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:51.520 If you write something bad about them, and there's certainly 0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:54.480 people in the music industry who need ongoing access have 0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:58.080 to all hail and bend the knee at the altar 0:42:58.160 --> 0:43:00.400 of these two. Well, guess what, I don't need you 0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:02.839 at all. I'm not at your altar. I'm not on 0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:06.880 my knee. You didn't revolutionize country music. You're a glomer 0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:10.400 who used other people's big hits and catchy tunes to 0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:14.480 try to jump in last minute. Thanks to jay Z's marketing, 0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:16.759 it looks like a success, but that's true of her 0:43:16.840 --> 0:43:20.239 underlying career too. I don't like her music, I don't 0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:22.480 like her dance routines, and I don't like what she's 0:43:22.520 --> 0:43:25.359 let happen to her. And that's my opinion. Take that 0:43:25.480 --> 0:43:29.560 and put it up on your next Real Beyonce, I 0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:30.000 love it. 0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:32.000 We have a term in Australia for people who complain 0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:35.680 like this sucks all right, sounds like that she and 0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:37.920 the blood that they're just giants, sooks, babies, you know, 0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:42.200 as they carry on all right. Now we know that 0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:45.799 the second Elon Musk came into Donald Trump's orbit, there 0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:48.480 was an obsession with trying to break them up, or 0:43:48.480 --> 0:43:50.480 looking for signs of them breaking up. 0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:52.600 He's you know, come. 0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:55.080 You know he's been from you know, as you say, 0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:59.279 a tissue paper a distance between them. He's done his job. 0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:03.200 I punished him, blew up his cars. Now he's gone 0:44:03.239 --> 0:44:06.400 back to the private sector and today's decided. He's tweeting 0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:08.759 that he doesn't like the budget. That is currently being 0:44:08.920 --> 0:44:12.440 pushed through. Now what annoys me about this is that 0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:15.400 it plays into this constant obsession of the left trying 0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:18.080 to get into the will they won't they break up? 0:44:18.120 --> 0:44:20.520 Will they won't they ever be on the same side. 0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:22.720 Elon Musk ain't going back to the left. 0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:23.120 All right. 0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:25.160 He might have the Harry hits with some of the 0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:27.839 things that are in the budget, but sorry, dims, he 0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:28.840 ain't coming back. 0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:34.360 There's just such a nasty, petty group of people. You know. 0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:38.160 I don't blame Elon for objecting to the big beautiful bill. 0:44:38.239 --> 0:44:42.360 There's a ton in there of spending that we cannot afford. 0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:45.239 You know, Trump made a lot of promises when he 0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:47.439 was running for president that now he's trying to keep 0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:49.440 in the form of this bill. So I mean, in 0:44:49.480 --> 0:44:53.080 one way, good on him, but in another, holy shit, 0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:56.680 if we can't afford this. So that's what Elon is 0:44:56.719 --> 0:44:59.680 reacting to. He was sent in there to go try 0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:01.800 to find a bunch of fat ways, fought fraud and 0:45:01.840 --> 0:45:04.760 a brute abuse so that he could slim the federal 0:45:04.800 --> 0:45:07.680 budget and help balance the budget in that way, and 0:45:08.239 --> 0:45:11.400 it didn't work. That's the truth. He tried. Doge is 0:45:11.440 --> 0:45:15.359 still trying, but what we're learning is the forces in 0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:19.680 Washington are just too strong. They're too dug in. The 0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:25.319 courts stopped him, the bureaucracy stopped him, and ultimately the 0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:29.000 press helped stop him by ruining his other businesses to 0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:30.759 the point where he had no choice but to go 0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:33.359 back to manning them full time and giving up being 0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:36.359 at the helm of Doge. What Elin ultimately said is 0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:40.520 like his verdict was, I've realized it can only be 0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:44.239 done by spurring GDP. That's our only way out of 0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:47.680 this thirty seven trillion dollars of debt. We have no 0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:51.400 choice but to double down on our work ethic and 0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:53.680 try to power up the engines that have always powered 0:45:53.719 --> 0:45:55.319 the American economy. We're not going to do it by 0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:59.360 cutting spending because there's no desire and there's too many obstacles. 0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:01.920 So sad, it's kind of a sad verdict. At the 0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:06.000 end of Elon's Doge term, you would think that maybe 0:46:06.040 --> 0:46:08.919 some on the left would think, God, I was such 0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:12.240 an ass I behave terribly with one of the world's 0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:17.359 richest men and most brilliant humans ever to walk this 0:46:17.440 --> 0:46:22.240 little sphere we all live on, volunteered to do public service, 0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:26.279 and he's an eccentric. Look at his personal life. Look 0:46:26.320 --> 0:46:29.960 at yes, I believe the drug use. But he wanted 0:46:30.160 --> 0:46:32.799 to work for me and for you and to just 0:46:32.880 --> 0:46:35.840 help find efficiencies in this massive business we call the 0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:39.399 United States. And instead of saying thank you, we put 0:46:39.560 --> 0:46:42.200 our boot on his forehead and shoved him back down 0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:42.720 the slide. 0:46:44.280 --> 0:46:45.520 She's a base. Can you believe it? 0:46:45.600 --> 0:46:49.080 Beyonce I beyonce I putting up video of Megan from 0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:50.400 this little tab program. 0:46:50.480 --> 0:46:52.400 Say the whole world is watching. 0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:55.920 The whole world is isn't a grinthumbe protest thing? 0:46:58.640 --> 0:47:05.480 Good one to sac believe it or not? 0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:07.879 What you are seeing here is something that is many 0:47:07.960 --> 0:47:09.839 hundreds of millions of dollars in the making. But what 0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:12.319 is it? It is an electric plane. It landed in 0:47:12.360 --> 0:47:13.680 New York today. 0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:16.880 Pilot plus four forty five minutes. 0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:21.600 The future of aviation is clearly not long distance just yet, 0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:26.320 but on its way electric planes still in the United States, 0:47:26.440 --> 0:47:28.560 Let's talk about their greatest president of all time, the 0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:30.680 one who was able to not just defy the critics, 0:47:30.719 --> 0:47:33.399 but to defyre gravity. Joe Biden, of course, the only 0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:36.440 man to fall up the stairs well when he was 0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:39.920 in office, you know, as always President, Well, it grabs 0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:42.400 a pen signs all of the different orders. Only problem 0:47:42.520 --> 0:47:45.000 is there was thousands and thousands of thousands of documents 0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:47.480 which were signed with a machine, an autopen. 0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:50.160 Like the electronic version of the etcher sketch. If you 0:47:50.200 --> 0:47:52.200 may remember that president from way back when. 0:47:52.280 --> 0:47:56.640 Well, among the people whose legal pardons from the President 0:47:56.680 --> 0:48:01.399 were approved by the machine, not the guy clearly left 0:48:01.760 --> 0:48:06.600 alive by a machine was his son Hunter Biden. Today 0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:10.040 we learned that the Trump administration, people in Congress and 0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:12.319 even the Department of Justice is now trying to double check. 0:48:13.040 --> 0:48:16.200 But simply if a machine signs the piece of paper 0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:20.040 argue immune from prosecution, who knows if it is or isn't. 0:48:20.200 --> 0:48:22.040 But it's a fun question to ask, because they did 0:48:22.080 --> 0:48:25.400 today at the White House, these last. 0:48:25.200 --> 0:48:30.800 Minute fading parts, the big ones Biden siblings Fauci January 0:48:30.840 --> 0:48:33.919 sixth Committee, Most of the big ones had the same 0:48:34.600 --> 0:48:38.080 very neat signature boot expect that probably to be the. 0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:40.040 Heart on that. Now. 0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:41.279 I don't know if I can show you that again 0:48:41.320 --> 0:48:43.720 but without the sound. But do you like the reporters 0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:45.480 that are sitting next to him going, oh, I've got 0:48:45.520 --> 0:48:47.440 to sit next to the Fox News guy who's got 0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:49.680 a really good question and he's got a prop as well. 0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:52.680 Look at them, Look at at the passive aggressive carry 0:48:52.680 --> 0:48:56.000 on from the mate, Steve, Well done, go the deuce. 0:48:56.640 --> 0:48:59.560 As for Carolyn Leavitt, of course, the spokesperson for the president, 0:48:59.680 --> 0:49:01.600 she said, thank you for a question. 0:49:01.880 --> 0:49:03.920 I will now kick from goal in front. 0:49:05.600 --> 0:49:08.640 It's very interesting, very interesting props. If you want to 0:49:08.640 --> 0:49:10.440 bring them to my office later so I can take 0:49:10.480 --> 0:49:13.480 a closer look, I would like to do that. The 0:49:13.520 --> 0:49:16.759 President is making a good point when he discusses the 0:49:16.880 --> 0:49:19.719 usage of the autopen who was running the country for 0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:22.920 the past four years. Perhaps those documents were signed with 0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:26.560 the autopen. Something that this I believe the Department of 0:49:26.680 --> 0:49:29.160 Justice is looking into, as you saw Ed Martin made 0:49:29.160 --> 0:49:31.560 an announcement at the Department of Justice this morning to 0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:38.640 launch an investigation because the American people deserve answers, eh 0:49:38.680 --> 0:49:39.239 and every time. 0:49:39.360 --> 0:49:42.239 And they, oh, but we're going to talk about a 0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:46.320 long because aren't they breaking up? No, it just disagrees 0:49:46.360 --> 0:49:48.480 with the big beautiful bill all right. I met for 0:49:48.640 --> 0:49:50.520 a long waken after a bit of a run. When 0:49:50.520 --> 0:49:52.160 it comes to the election time, Olivia, the Haynes of 0:49:52.200 --> 0:49:53.520 James morro and I'll say you next week.