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Speaker 3: Probably heard the news on five double A that Port
Speaker 3: Adelaide has now confirmed Josh Carr will take over as
Speaker 3: head coach from ken Hinckley at.
Speaker 4: The end of the year.
Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but this idea of a
Speaker 3: twelve month succession plan and announcing it publicly, it seemed
Speaker 3: unusual to me, but I thought, let's get the thoughts
Speaker 3: of an expert five double a football expert, Scott camp
Speaker 3: RIALI joins me in the studio Halle Campo.
Speaker 4: Hello, how are you good? How are you?
Speaker 5: Congratulations? Thank you looking radiant?
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, well done?
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 3: It's an interesting one, isn't it.
Speaker 5: I know that what they've done. I think we all
Speaker 5: probably thought that was on the cards at some stage,
Speaker 5: you know, with the conversations with Josh coming back from Fremantle,
Speaker 5: that perhaps that's taken place, and I think in the
Speaker 5: in the press release they said they spoke about it
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty three when he came back, that that
Speaker 5: was potentially an opportunity that was going to happen. So,
Speaker 5: I mean, Josh has done a wonderful apprenticeship. He's coach North,
Speaker 5: had laid in his own right to a premiership, went
Speaker 5: away again when able to Freemantle coach in the midfield
Speaker 5: over there, then's comeback. So he's done a pretty good
Speaker 5: apprenticeship in terms of if he looked at his cvs,
Speaker 5: ticked a lot of boxes. So the timing is interesting
Speaker 5: for me.
Speaker 4: What do you make of that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I think I think because there's a lot
Speaker 5: of heat around Port Adelaide at the moment around what
Speaker 5: Ken's going to do and should they re sign him earlier?
Speaker 5: Why did they? You know, a lot of those conversations,
Speaker 5: and I think this probably takes just a little bit
Speaker 5: of heat out of that conversation and the innuendo about
Speaker 5: what's going to happen at the end of the year.
Speaker 4: But it felt like all of last year career speculation, which.
Speaker 5: Is pretty tough when you finished second on the ladder.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's true.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'm a Ken fan like Ken was wonderful
Speaker 5: to me when I was at Adelaide through the whole
Speaker 5: Walshe scenario. So I have a lot of respect for Ken.
Speaker 5: And coaching is not an easy job. We can sit
Speaker 5: here and supporters kill bell.
Speaker 3: Do it from the comfort of our laundry.
Speaker 5: And as you do as you should because you pay
Speaker 5: your membership and those sort of things, and that's what
Speaker 5: coaches do. You sign up for the criticism. But sometimes
Speaker 5: I think it's a little unwarranted, but I get the
Speaker 5: conversation around port supporters that they haven't got to a
Speaker 5: Grand Final and they've fallen short. So I understand that conversation.
Speaker 5: But for me, it feels like just a little pressure
Speaker 5: release off Ken and the footy club to know that
Speaker 5: that's the succession plan. The interesting thing will be, and
Speaker 5: I don't like to often deal with hypotheticals if they
Speaker 5: get off to a slow start, what happens, you know,
Speaker 5: in terms of that relationship, because we've seen previously with
Speaker 5: this and no better one. But I think they're probably
Speaker 5: a better relationship. I'm sure it's a better relationships with
Speaker 5: Nathan Buckley and Mick Moldhouse with that succession plan and
Speaker 5: that didn't end well, you know in terms, and that
Speaker 5: ended up getting moved on quickly. So I think Josh
Speaker 5: and Ken's relationships way better than that, no question. But
Speaker 5: it's an interesting one. It's an interesting one for the
Speaker 5: players who do I go to There's a lot of
Speaker 5: questions you know that they and they will have to
Speaker 5: navigate through that themselves as internally as a club. Because
Speaker 5: if I'm a player and they going, so am I
Speaker 5: going to Ken, or am I going to Josh? Who
Speaker 5: do I spend my time with? Yeah, you know, so
Speaker 5: there's a lot of.
Speaker 4: Who am sucking up to?
Speaker 5: There's a little bit of that, But I think they're
Speaker 5: a professional environment and knowing Ken and Josh, I think
Speaker 5: they'll they'll handle it beautifully.
Speaker 3: You mentioned it'll be interesting to see if the club
Speaker 3: gets off to a slow starts. There's the Ken fan
Speaker 3: club and then there's the the opposite of the Ken
Speaker 3: fan club amongst the Port base. If if it is
Speaker 3: a slow start, there'll be caols for it to happen sooner,
Speaker 3: bringing forward why are we.
Speaker 4: Waiting till the end of the year?
Speaker 3: But like you know, I always think of everything through
Speaker 3: a political lens. You know, a year is a long
Speaker 3: time in politics. It's also a very long time in footy.
Speaker 3: It could go the other way. What if they have
Speaker 3: a really good season? Yeah, what if they make the
Speaker 3: Grand Fighters?
Speaker 5: Well, I think ideally you'd love I mean as a
Speaker 5: ports it. If you're a Port supporter and probably more
Speaker 5: so Ken, they get to a Grand Final win it,
Speaker 5: that would be I guess the fairy tale story that
Speaker 5: he's done his time, He's got him to the top
Speaker 5: of the mountain and then he moves over and he
Speaker 5: hands over the reins to Josh moving forward, but there
Speaker 5: will always be that comment was it Josh or was
Speaker 5: it Ken? So there's always that sort of innuendo about
Speaker 5: whose team is it for one of a better words.
Speaker 5: So it's going to be interesting. I think there's a
Speaker 5: lot of conversations, a lot of questions that will get asked,
Speaker 5: you know, throughout the time, you know, even in some
Speaker 5: of the press conferences and those sort of things. But
Speaker 5: you know, I think, as I said, it's probably just
Speaker 5: a little pressure release, some clarity perhaps around even list
Speaker 5: management because sometimes you know, when you're going after players
Speaker 5: from other clubs, well who's the coach? You know, there's
Speaker 5: that conversation as well, So there'd be some conversations around
Speaker 5: that moving forward. So it's not just a one line answer,
Speaker 5: I don't think in this one. But yeah, it's interesting
Speaker 5: they've come out early to do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because again with a year being a long time
Speaker 3: in footy, you just don't know who might be available
Speaker 3: by the end of the year. I mean we saw
Speaker 3: with Adam Simpson Simpson being sat from West Coast last
Speaker 3: Caesar there could be some fresh new talent available, but
Speaker 3: Josh Car's the guy.
Speaker 5: Well, and that they may have done their due diligence
Speaker 5: and they've come up with that as well, you know,
Speaker 5: knowing footy clubs and how important that role is, I'd
Speaker 5: be staggered if they haven't scoured the country before they've
Speaker 5: made this final decision and going right, if we fast
Speaker 5: forward twelve months, who's going to be available, who's potentially
Speaker 5: going to be available, and is Josh still our man?
Speaker 5: So they've pretty much I guess confirmed that that's the
Speaker 5: way they're going to go.
Speaker 3: And I mean, because he's been at the club for
Speaker 3: so many years, you'd think he'd have the support of
Speaker 3: the playing group.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well I haven't heard other wise, you know,
Speaker 5: in terms of that he doesn't do a good job
Speaker 5: or he hasn't got a good relationships with the players.
Speaker 5: I'm sure that's all embedded And and I guess the
Speaker 5: good thing is he's a past player, premiership player at
Speaker 5: the footay club, so he's got a really I guess
Speaker 5: fested interest in the footy club. So he's connected, you know,
Speaker 5: not just as a senior coach, but he's connected as
Speaker 5: a pass player as well. And he gets an opportunity
Speaker 5: to coach as a senior coach. I wish him all
Speaker 5: the best.
Speaker 3: Would that be front of mind for the club, having
Speaker 3: that security for the playing group, but also for Ken
Speaker 3: and Josh because obviously, like we've discussed that there are
Speaker 3: fans who won't like this decision.
Speaker 4: They are fans who will like this decision, and you
Speaker 4: want to keep your fans happy, but at the end
Speaker 4: of the day, you need to keep.
Speaker 3: Your playing group happy. You want you want them to
Speaker 3: play well.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, the playing group's probably number one, because as soon
Speaker 5: as that fractures, you know, that can fall off the
Speaker 5: cliff pretty quickly. And you use Adam Simpson as an example,
Speaker 5: unbelievable coach for a long period of time, but you
Speaker 5: know his time was up and the message essentially wasn't
Speaker 5: quite getting through, you know, and things drop away, whether
Speaker 5: it's standards, whether it's game style, whether it's all those things.
Speaker 5: But Josh will come in with a fair bit of energy,
Speaker 5: I would have thought, and he'll energize Ken as well.
Speaker 5: And Ken will probably read in his press conference as well.
Speaker 5: He'll be energized as well because this is his last
Speaker 5: year and he'll have a different mindset, whereas last year,
Speaker 5: I guess he was coaching for his job. This year,
Speaker 5: he'll probably got some clarity and he'll be probably a
Speaker 5: little bit more relaxed on the basis that you know,
Speaker 5: I can help Josh transition into that next phase and
Speaker 5: I can perhaps mentor the players in a different way
Speaker 5: than perhaps I would have if I was still trying
Speaker 5: to be a senior coach.
Speaker 4: Does Does it take a bit of the pressure off?
Speaker 4: Could it take too much pressure off?
Speaker 3: I'm not going to suggest that any head coach of
Speaker 3: an AFL club would go, huh, I only got a
Speaker 3: year left.
Speaker 4: I'll just sit back now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not really, not really.
Speaker 5: I mean with the coaches players, we're proud people. I
Speaker 5: mean you, if I told you that you had a
Speaker 5: year level, you are a proud person. You want to
Speaker 5: be good at what your job at what you do
Speaker 5: at your job, and you want to leave a legacy.
Speaker 5: And Ken what people understand. Don't understand where Port Adelaide
Speaker 5: were when he came to the footy club to where
Speaker 5: they are now and how much they've been able to
Speaker 5: improve and play a game style that wins games of footy,
Speaker 5: and he's exciting. You could never question Ken's game plan
Speaker 5: in terms of excitement. Yes, it's fallen short a couple
Speaker 5: of times, but there's always a myriad of reasons why
Speaker 5: you know, you can sit here and each year. But
Speaker 5: there was a couple of common threads, you know that
Speaker 5: probably just needs to be fine tuned, you know, moving forward,
Speaker 5: and I'm sure Josh will have a handle on that.
Speaker 3: Fred on the text line says Ken's received an offer
Speaker 3: for another coaching job and needed to respond quickly if
Speaker 3: he was interested. That's why we've got this early statement.
Speaker 5: What do you think, Ah, what club?
Speaker 3: Maybe Tazzy, Well.
Speaker 5: Tazzy doesn't come in necessarily till twenty twenty twenty, said yeah,
Speaker 5: but they, I mean, they're obviously looking now because Benny
Speaker 5: Gale is in charge there and they're looking I guess
Speaker 5: to have someone maybe who knows. I guess, well, you know,
Speaker 5: we'll find out in twelve months, but up until then, yeah,
Speaker 5: who knows. I mean the coaching merry go round is
Speaker 5: there's a lot of rumor mills. Yeah, and a lot
Speaker 5: of I guess people that think they know but don't necessarily.
Speaker 5: I only can all know that answer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty twenty eight, they come into the comps, yeah, or.
Speaker 5: Twenty twenty seven. I think they play VFL the in
Speaker 5: the VFL game, so they need to start getting their
Speaker 5: lists organized the end of I guess next years. But yeah,
Speaker 5: it's an interesting one. I mean, there's always going to
Speaker 5: be coaching jobs because that's just the world that we
Speaker 5: live in. Unfortunately, there's always going to be someone in
Speaker 5: the hot seat, you know, whether it be Michael vossit Carlton,
Speaker 5: whether it be Chris Scott who's at the other end
Speaker 5: because you know he's got an aging list. You know,
Speaker 5: there's always a reason why someone's you know, under the microscope.
Speaker 5: But yeah, interesting one. It's going to be talked about
Speaker 5: from here to particularly round one, and then we'll see
Speaker 5: what happens.
Speaker 4: And then all year probably and then depending on what
Speaker 4: the win lost looks like.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm an optimist. I'm I'm an optimist port fan.
Speaker 3: So having you here in the studio, you know, coach yourself,
Speaker 3: head coach for a while of Adelaide Crows. What if
Speaker 3: they do win a grand fad, would you be tempted
Speaker 3: to try and hang around?
Speaker 5: Well, I can only speak for myself, but if I was,
Speaker 5: if I took myself and put in ken shoes, I've
Speaker 5: had a wonderful time at Port Adelaide. I've done what
Speaker 5: I needed to do. I can go out on a
Speaker 5: really good note like why why tarnish that? Why try
Speaker 5: and chase it again? And how I guess from the
Speaker 5: fans and the players, if you did a backflip in
Speaker 5: twelve months time, Yeah, that's probably not a great look.
Speaker 3: Is this maybe a way of the club also putting
Speaker 3: a bit of pressure to force can out making this
Speaker 3: decision early. You can't change your mind halfway through the
Speaker 3: year and want to stay.
Speaker 5: You can't, and it takes the pressure off. Are they
Speaker 5: going to re sign him again?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: You know, that's always the conversation, you know. So if
Speaker 5: they if they start really well and they're six and oh,
Speaker 5: then the well they got to sign Ken again because
Speaker 5: he's out of contract at the end of the year
Speaker 5: and he's a wanted commodity, you know. So I think
Speaker 5: it works for both parties.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 4: Well, like you say, this isn't the last we'll hear
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 5: No be inter seen on Timmy's takes. I'll be listening
Speaker 5: tonight to hear what he says.
Speaker 3: Me too, Me too, But I appreciate your takes Savo Campo.
Speaker 3: Thank you Scott Camporeali five double A football expert and
Speaker 3: as you know, head coach himself five double A afternoons
Speaker 3: with Stacey Lee.
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