WEBVTT - Campo's first thoughts on Power's succession plan

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<v Speaker 3>Probably heard the news on five double A that Port

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<v Speaker 3>Adelaide has now confirmed Josh Carr will take over as

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<v Speaker 3>head coach from ken Hinckley at.

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<v Speaker 4>The end of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know about you, but this idea of a

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<v Speaker 3>twelve month succession plan and announcing it publicly, it seemed

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<v Speaker 3>unusual to me, but I thought, let's get the thoughts

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<v Speaker 3>of an expert five double a football expert, Scott camp

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<v Speaker 3>RIALI joins me in the studio Halle Campo.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, how are you good? How are you?

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<v Speaker 5>Congratulations? Thank you looking radiant?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much, well done?

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an interesting one, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 5>I know that what they've done. I think we all

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<v Speaker 5>probably thought that was on the cards at some stage,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, with the conversations with Josh coming back from Fremantle,

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<v Speaker 5>that perhaps that's taken place, and I think in the

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<v Speaker 5>in the press release they said they spoke about it

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<v Speaker 5>in twenty twenty three when he came back, that that

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<v Speaker 5>was potentially an opportunity that was going to happen. So,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, Josh has done a wonderful apprenticeship. He's coach North,

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<v Speaker 5>had laid in his own right to a premiership, went

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<v Speaker 5>away again when able to Freemantle coach in the midfield

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<v Speaker 5>over there, then's comeback. So he's done a pretty good

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<v Speaker 5>apprenticeship in terms of if he looked at his cvs,

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<v Speaker 5>ticked a lot of boxes. So the timing is interesting

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<v Speaker 5>for me.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you make of that?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, I think I think because there's a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of heat around Port Adelaide at the moment around what

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<v Speaker 5>Ken's going to do and should they re sign him earlier?

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<v Speaker 5>Why did they? You know, a lot of those conversations,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think this probably takes just a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>of heat out of that conversation and the innuendo about

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<v Speaker 5>what's going to happen at the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 4>But it felt like all of last year career speculation, which.

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<v Speaker 5>Is pretty tough when you finished second on the ladder.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well that's true.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And I'm a Ken fan like Ken was wonderful

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<v Speaker 5>to me when I was at Adelaide through the whole

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<v Speaker 5>Walshe scenario. So I have a lot of respect for Ken.

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<v Speaker 5>And coaching is not an easy job. We can sit

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<v Speaker 5>here and supporters kill bell.

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<v Speaker 3>Do it from the comfort of our laundry.

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<v Speaker 5>And as you do as you should because you pay

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<v Speaker 5>your membership and those sort of things, and that's what

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<v Speaker 5>coaches do. You sign up for the criticism. But sometimes

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's a little unwarranted, but I get the

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<v Speaker 5>conversation around port supporters that they haven't got to a

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<v Speaker 5>Grand Final and they've fallen short. So I understand that conversation.

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<v Speaker 5>But for me, it feels like just a little pressure

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<v Speaker 5>release off Ken and the footy club to know that

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<v Speaker 5>that's the succession plan. The interesting thing will be, and

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<v Speaker 5>I don't like to often deal with hypotheticals if they

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<v Speaker 5>get off to a slow start, what happens, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>in terms of that relationship, because we've seen previously with

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<v Speaker 5>this and no better one. But I think they're probably

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<v Speaker 5>a better relationship. I'm sure it's a better relationships with

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<v Speaker 5>Nathan Buckley and Mick Moldhouse with that succession plan and

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<v Speaker 5>that didn't end well, you know in terms, and that

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<v Speaker 5>ended up getting moved on quickly. So I think Josh

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<v Speaker 5>and Ken's relationships way better than that, no question. But

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<v Speaker 5>it's an interesting one. It's an interesting one for the

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<v Speaker 5>players who do I go to There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>questions you know that they and they will have to

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<v Speaker 5>navigate through that themselves as internally as a club. Because

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<v Speaker 5>if I'm a player and they going, so am I

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<v Speaker 5>going to Ken, or am I going to Josh? Who

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<v Speaker 5>do I spend my time with? Yeah, you know, so

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<v Speaker 5>there's a lot of.

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<v Speaker 4>Who am sucking up to?

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<v Speaker 5>There's a little bit of that, But I think they're

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<v Speaker 5>a professional environment and knowing Ken and Josh, I think

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<v Speaker 5>they'll they'll handle it beautifully.

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<v Speaker 3>You mentioned it'll be interesting to see if the club

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<v Speaker 3>gets off to a slow starts. There's the Ken fan

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<v Speaker 3>club and then there's the the opposite of the Ken

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<v Speaker 3>fan club amongst the Port base. If if it is

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<v Speaker 3>a slow start, there'll be caols for it to happen sooner,

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<v Speaker 3>bringing forward why are we.

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<v Speaker 4>Waiting till the end of the year?

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<v Speaker 3>But like you know, I always think of everything through

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<v Speaker 3>a political lens. You know, a year is a long

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<v Speaker 3>time in politics. It's also a very long time in footy.

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<v Speaker 3>It could go the other way. What if they have

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<v Speaker 3>a really good season? Yeah, what if they make the

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<v Speaker 3>Grand Fighters?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I think ideally you'd love I mean as a

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<v Speaker 5>ports it. If you're a Port supporter and probably more

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<v Speaker 5>so Ken, they get to a Grand Final win it,

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<v Speaker 5>that would be I guess the fairy tale story that

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<v Speaker 5>he's done his time, He's got him to the top

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<v Speaker 5>of the mountain and then he moves over and he

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<v Speaker 5>hands over the reins to Josh moving forward, but there

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<v Speaker 5>will always be that comment was it Josh or was

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<v Speaker 5>it Ken? So there's always that sort of innuendo about

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<v Speaker 5>whose team is it for one of a better words.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's going to be interesting. I think there's a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of conversations, a lot of questions that will get asked,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, throughout the time, you know, even in some

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<v Speaker 5>of the press conferences and those sort of things. But

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I think, as I said, it's probably just

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<v Speaker 5>a little pressure release, some clarity perhaps around even list

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<v Speaker 5>management because sometimes you know, when you're going after players

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<v Speaker 5>from other clubs, well who's the coach? You know, there's

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<v Speaker 5>that conversation as well, So there'd be some conversations around

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<v Speaker 5>that moving forward. So it's not just a one line answer,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think in this one. But yeah, it's interesting

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<v Speaker 5>they've come out early to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because again with a year being a long time

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<v Speaker 3>in footy, you just don't know who might be available

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<v Speaker 3>by the end of the year. I mean we saw

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<v Speaker 3>with Adam Simpson Simpson being sat from West Coast last

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<v Speaker 3>Caesar there could be some fresh new talent available, but

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<v Speaker 3>Josh Car's the guy.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, and that they may have done their due diligence

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<v Speaker 5>and they've come up with that as well, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>knowing footy clubs and how important that role is, I'd

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<v Speaker 5>be staggered if they haven't scoured the country before they've

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<v Speaker 5>made this final decision and going right, if we fast

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<v Speaker 5>forward twelve months, who's going to be available, who's potentially

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<v Speaker 5>going to be available, and is Josh still our man?

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<v Speaker 5>So they've pretty much I guess confirmed that that's the

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<v Speaker 5>way they're going to go.

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean, because he's been at the club for

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<v Speaker 3>so many years, you'd think he'd have the support of

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<v Speaker 3>the playing group.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, well I haven't heard other wise, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>in terms of that he doesn't do a good job

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<v Speaker 5>or he hasn't got a good relationships with the players.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sure that's all embedded And and I guess the

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<v Speaker 5>good thing is he's a past player, premiership player at

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<v Speaker 5>the footay club, so he's got a really I guess

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<v Speaker 5>fested interest in the footy club. So he's connected, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>not just as a senior coach, but he's connected as

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<v Speaker 5>a pass player as well. And he gets an opportunity

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<v Speaker 5>to coach as a senior coach. I wish him all

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<v Speaker 5>the best.

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<v Speaker 3>Would that be front of mind for the club, having

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<v Speaker 3>that security for the playing group, but also for Ken

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<v Speaker 3>and Josh because obviously, like we've discussed that there are

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<v Speaker 3>fans who won't like this decision.

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<v Speaker 4>They are fans who will like this decision, and you

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<v Speaker 4>want to keep your fans happy, but at the end

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<v Speaker 4>of the day, you need to keep.

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<v Speaker 3>Your playing group happy. You want you want them to

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<v Speaker 3>play well.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, the playing group's probably number one, because as soon

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<v Speaker 5>as that fractures, you know, that can fall off the

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<v Speaker 5>cliff pretty quickly. And you use Adam Simpson as an example,

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<v Speaker 5>unbelievable coach for a long period of time, but you

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<v Speaker 5>know his time was up and the message essentially wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>quite getting through, you know, and things drop away, whether

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<v Speaker 5>it's standards, whether it's game style, whether it's all those things.

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<v Speaker 5>But Josh will come in with a fair bit of energy,

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<v Speaker 5>I would have thought, and he'll energize Ken as well.

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<v Speaker 5>And Ken will probably read in his press conference as well.

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<v Speaker 5>He'll be energized as well because this is his last

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<v Speaker 5>year and he'll have a different mindset, whereas last year,

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<v Speaker 5>I guess he was coaching for his job. This year,

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<v Speaker 5>he'll probably got some clarity and he'll be probably a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit more relaxed on the basis that you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I can help Josh transition into that next phase and

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<v Speaker 5>I can perhaps mentor the players in a different way

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<v Speaker 5>than perhaps I would have if I was still trying

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<v Speaker 5>to be a senior coach.

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<v Speaker 4>Does Does it take a bit of the pressure off?

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<v Speaker 4>Could it take too much pressure off?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to suggest that any head coach of

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<v Speaker 3>an AFL club would go, huh, I only got a

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<v Speaker 3>year left.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll just sit back now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, not really, not really.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean with the coaches players, we're proud people. I

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<v Speaker 5>mean you, if I told you that you had a

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<v Speaker 5>year level, you are a proud person. You want to

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<v Speaker 5>be good at what your job at what you do

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<v Speaker 5>at your job, and you want to leave a legacy.

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<v Speaker 5>And Ken what people understand. Don't understand where Port Adelaide

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<v Speaker 5>were when he came to the footy club to where

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<v Speaker 5>they are now and how much they've been able to

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<v Speaker 5>improve and play a game style that wins games of footy,

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<v Speaker 5>and he's exciting. You could never question Ken's game plan

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<v Speaker 5>in terms of excitement. Yes, it's fallen short a couple

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<v Speaker 5>of times, but there's always a myriad of reasons why

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<v Speaker 5>you know, you can sit here and each year. But

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<v Speaker 5>there was a couple of common threads, you know that

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<v Speaker 5>probably just needs to be fine tuned, you know, moving forward,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm sure Josh will have a handle on that.

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<v Speaker 3>Fred on the text line says Ken's received an offer

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<v Speaker 3>for another coaching job and needed to respond quickly if

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<v Speaker 3>he was interested. That's why we've got this early statement.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you think, Ah, what club?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe Tazzy, Well.

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<v Speaker 5>Tazzy doesn't come in necessarily till twenty twenty twenty, said yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>but they, I mean, they're obviously looking now because Benny

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<v Speaker 5>Gale is in charge there and they're looking I guess

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<v Speaker 5>to have someone maybe who knows. I guess, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we'll find out in twelve months, but up until then, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>who knows. I mean the coaching merry go round is

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<v Speaker 5>there's a lot of rumor mills. Yeah, and a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of I guess people that think they know but don't necessarily.

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<v Speaker 5>I only can all know that answer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, twenty twenty eight, they come into the comps, yeah, or.

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<v Speaker 5>Twenty twenty seven. I think they play VFL the in

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<v Speaker 5>the VFL game, so they need to start getting their

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<v Speaker 5>lists organized the end of I guess next years. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it's an interesting one. I mean, there's always going to

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<v Speaker 5>be coaching jobs because that's just the world that we

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<v Speaker 5>live in. Unfortunately, there's always going to be someone in

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<v Speaker 5>the hot seat, you know, whether it be Michael vossit Carlton,

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<v Speaker 5>whether it be Chris Scott who's at the other end

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<v Speaker 5>because you know he's got an aging list. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>there's always a reason why someone's you know, under the microscope.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, interesting one. It's going to be talked about

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<v Speaker 5>from here to particularly round one, and then we'll see

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<v Speaker 5>what happens.

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<v Speaker 4>And then all year probably and then depending on what

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<v Speaker 4>the win lost looks like.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm an optimist. I'm I'm an optimist port fan.

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<v Speaker 3>So having you here in the studio, you know, coach yourself,

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<v Speaker 3>head coach for a while of Adelaide Crows. What if

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<v Speaker 3>they do win a grand fad, would you be tempted

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<v Speaker 3>to try and hang around?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I can only speak for myself, but if I was,

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<v Speaker 5>if I took myself and put in ken shoes, I've

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<v Speaker 5>had a wonderful time at Port Adelaide. I've done what

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<v Speaker 5>I needed to do. I can go out on a

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<v Speaker 5>really good note like why why tarnish that? Why try

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<v Speaker 5>and chase it again? And how I guess from the

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<v Speaker 5>fans and the players, if you did a backflip in

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<v Speaker 5>twelve months time, Yeah, that's probably not a great look.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this maybe a way of the club also putting

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<v Speaker 3>a bit of pressure to force can out making this

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<v Speaker 3>decision early. You can't change your mind halfway through the

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<v Speaker 3>year and want to stay.

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<v Speaker 5>You can't, and it takes the pressure off. Are they

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<v Speaker 5>going to re sign him again?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, that's always the conversation, you know. So if

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<v Speaker 5>they if they start really well and they're six and oh,

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<v Speaker 5>then the well they got to sign Ken again because

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<v Speaker 5>he's out of contract at the end of the year

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<v Speaker 5>and he's a wanted commodity, you know. So I think

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<v Speaker 5>it works for both parties.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, like you say, this isn't the last we'll hear

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<v Speaker 4>of it.

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<v Speaker 5>No be inter seen on Timmy's takes. I'll be listening

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<v Speaker 5>tonight to hear what he says.

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<v Speaker 3>Me too, Me too, But I appreciate your takes Savo Campo.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you Scott Camporeali five double A football expert and

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