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Speaker 1: Hey, what's up guys. Welcome back to the podcast.

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Speaker 2: This week, we've got a very exciting guest, Jamie Humphrey's

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Speaker 2: former teammate of myself and friend of the podcast. We

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Speaker 2: actually recorded this a couple of weeks ago, prior to

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Speaker 2: him getting injured. We decided to hold it off for a

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks just to sort of let him get

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Speaker 2: through his stuff, and now it's released today.

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Speaker 1: Really good chat.

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Speaker 2: Just talk to him about transition to South Sydney and

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Speaker 2: what's it like being a boom youngster sort of coming

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Speaker 2: into first grade and doing such a good job under

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Speaker 2: Wayne Bennett and the South Sydney Rabbit Oz, as well

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Speaker 2: as a little bit of time on his stuff at Manly.

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Speaker 1: Hope you enjoy it and have a good week.

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Speaker 2: He picked it up himself and put the hat on.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't even going to give it to him, we.

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Speaker 3: Were I'm stolen it. It's mine now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you love it? You love a hat?

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Speaker 4: You know what?

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Speaker 1: Weird?

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Speaker 2: How's your chewing going in that mine? Sorry, you've been

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Speaker 2: the loudest tour said yeah, uh mate. First of all,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to give him a big injury. My humps

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Speaker 2: one of the my humps, my hust black eyed peace.

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Speaker 2: Jamie Humphries today one of the greats, one of the

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Speaker 2: great blokes and playing outstanding for souse at the moment.

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Speaker 2: We played together with the Blacktown Workers, the mighty Blacktown Workers,

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Speaker 2: shout out. Yeah, the hard knocks School of hard Knocks.

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Speaker 1: We're a lot of you know, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't want to say he was, you know, he took

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Speaker 2: a lot of stuff from me.

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Speaker 4: But you were a mentor. You said that before he arrived.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, mental, Yeah, I was kind of his mentor, Jamie.

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Speaker 5: You'd probably agree with that absolutely, especially out there at

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Speaker 5: Blacktown Coops. Definitely took me under his wing and show

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Speaker 5: me the ropes. And yeah, very grateful.

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Speaker 2: To be in the gym, would you say in the

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Speaker 2: gym as well?

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Speaker 3: Yeah for sure.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're on the m four knock shops around the area.

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Speaker 4: Had it all.

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Speaker 2: What's let me tell you something like two years ago

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Speaker 2: when we played together. Look, you always had an outstanding rig.

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Speaker 2: The boys would always be so jealous of Jamis. Looking

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Speaker 2: your mirror, yeah, but did set you would have you?

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Speaker 2: How many keys have you put on since then? Because

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Speaker 2: you're you're looking freaking ridiculous At the moment, the physique.

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Speaker 5: Look, I don't know exactly, but I've definitely put on

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Speaker 5: a little bit of weight, been on the bug for

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Speaker 5: a while.

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Speaker 2: So career team, yeah, because you always were into the

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Speaker 2: buys and tries.

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Speaker 1: I remember when you were the first one.

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Speaker 2: Jamie used to be the first one in the gym

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Speaker 2: and then he do Bears Andrew Berridge, our strengthen conditioner

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Speaker 2: at the time.

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Speaker 1: Do Bezs's program.

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Speaker 3: Shout out the Bears.

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Speaker 2: And everybody be in the spa or the sauna and

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Speaker 2: Chami W'd still be in there just ripping into the

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Speaker 2: bicyc Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, no, it's a good point. You raised, like with Bears,

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Speaker 5: training with him a lot, kind of growing up. He's

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Speaker 5: been with me kind of coaching me throughout all the

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Speaker 5: junior grades. It was pretty funny how like we actually

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Speaker 5: kind of progressed similarly, like we were Sea Ball together

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Speaker 5: and then went up to Flag and then my first

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Speaker 5: pre season was his first pre season NRAL as well.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, it took a lot from Bears And probably

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Speaker 5: the biggest thing was the work ethic he's doing.

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Speaker 2: He's like strength and conditioning for like Formula one now. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's doing He's training a lot of them, and I

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Speaker 2: said to it because I messaged him the other day

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Speaker 2: and I was like, do they need a lot of strength?

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Speaker 1: And he was like, he said, mate, it's so.

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Speaker 2: Like their legs need to be so strong because when

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Speaker 2: the G four, Yeah, they needed like it's like doing

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Speaker 2: leg press.

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Speaker 4: They lose about tan HuLos in a race eight to

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Speaker 4: tulos just sweat.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 5: Even the next stuff he was saying is really important

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Speaker 5: for them with like like you said, all the force

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Speaker 5: and everything that's right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, imagine to fit like like we talk about

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Speaker 4: jockeys all the time. Jockey's going to ride, you know,

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Speaker 4: fifty two kilos and well, I mean to be no

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Speaker 4: different form formula, it'll be exactly the same, you know,

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Speaker 4: just you know, having to keep yourself trim all the

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Speaker 4: time wouldn't be a problem for you. Coups. Of course, Jamie,

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Speaker 4: we always kid, We always.

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Speaker 3: Like you know, yeah, I mean I think so, I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't really remember, like looking back, but I always

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Speaker 5: played a lot of sport growing up. I was really

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Speaker 5: big into surf, li saving as a kid, and did

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Speaker 5: athletics and soccer at rugby. I did everything, so I

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Speaker 5: think kind of naturally I'd probably say from my mum,

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Speaker 5: I was always a bit thicker set, especially my legs,

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Speaker 5: so yeah, probably always had a little bit of size

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Speaker 2: I bet she'll be staked here. And if I said

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Speaker 2: I got I got thick legs for my mum, she

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Speaker 2: with spoon.

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Speaker 3: He's the one who tells me that.

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Speaker 4: For my sister, Cops at some top well doesn't Cop

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Speaker 4: And people say, oh my god, you just look exactly

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Speaker 4: like Andrew and in physique and everything. She just like, no,

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Speaker 4: but we should let people know, Like Jamie, you are

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Speaker 4: about fourth generation footballer. Yeah, you know, your grandfather ran

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Speaker 4: the game, your Stephen was celed a number of clubs.

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Speaker 4: So mate, you've been around it your whole life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have. Ever since I can remember. Really, I've

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Speaker 3: been around footy.

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Speaker 5: Like my brother and I used to wallwork at the

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Speaker 5: Tigers when Dad was there, so that was in that

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Speaker 5: era of Benji and Robbie when they were they were

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Speaker 5: killing it there. So yeah, as early as I can remember,

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Speaker 5: I've always been involved in footy and Pop and Dad

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Speaker 5: were always at all my games. And yeah, my grandma's

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Speaker 5: probably my biggest fan as well, so.

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Speaker 4: They always are.

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Speaker 2: Did you ballboy when they won the comp two thousand

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Speaker 2: and five. You would have been pretty young now.

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Speaker 3: I was I think two years old, so yeah, that

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Speaker 5: No, it was from probably eight to twenty eleven. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 5: that was a really good side. And Benji was at

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Speaker 5: remember just yeah, freaking out every time I seen him.

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Speaker 4: So once a continuous call when it first started, like

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Speaker 4: me and Andrew on the cusp of first grade and

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Speaker 4: I'm doing a thing on the Newcastle Nights saying, oh,

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Speaker 4: you know, they're struggling at the moment there, you know,

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Speaker 4: you know what, I don't know what the answer is.

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Speaker 4: Needs to hear this person ring up and go oh hello,

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Speaker 4: how are you going? They go, hello, how are you?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm a big night supporter. I just you know,

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Speaker 4: you were talking who should go in? Well there's two

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Speaker 4: brothers from Cessnok called Matthew Andrew John's I think that

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Speaker 4: should go in the first grade side. Oh well, ma'am,

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Speaker 4: tell us more about it. I'm going I know that voice.

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Speaker 4: It was my grandmother.

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Speaker 1: Really, what giving you as a plug?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I didn't say that she was an alias and I

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Speaker 4: got I rang and said, were you just on the

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Speaker 4: continuous call? She goes, oh, you know, just giving you

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Speaker 4: a bit of support.

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Speaker 1: That's that's low.

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Speaker 2: We were just saying out in the living room, Jamie,

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Speaker 2: you moved to South Sydney and you started your congratulations

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Speaker 2: like run us through the first impressions of South.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So obviously I've been at Manly for a long time

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Speaker 5: and kind of probably never really expected to move, especially

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Speaker 5: came about kind of midway through last year. An opportunity

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Speaker 5: came up there and it was something that kind of

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Speaker 5: interest and there's something I'm kind of really happy I did.

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Speaker 5: Took me out of my comfort zone. Obviously, living on

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Speaker 5: the beaches and playing at Mainly was felt very comfortable

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Speaker 5: and definitely wanted to challenge myself there a little bit.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, first impressions of the club started there in

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Speaker 5: wanted to make an impression myself. Just kind of based

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Speaker 5: my preseason around hard work and I know kind of

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Speaker 5: that's that's what I based my game on ever since

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Speaker 5: I think luckily for me kind of taking it day

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Speaker 5: there now. I think they really respected that about me

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Speaker 5: coming in and doing that, and obviously it's kind of

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Speaker 4: At the moment, Well, Jeremie, you hit the jackpot in

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Speaker 4: the fact that you've landed a club which is a

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Speaker 4: great club. I mean, Manly's a great club. South Sydney

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Speaker 4: has will so much history, great supporters. But you landed

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Speaker 4: young player when you signed at Souse. Was he already

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Speaker 4: there to get Was he down to go the next

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Speaker 5: It was kind of right at that time when that

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Speaker 5: was all happening, And to be honest, it was confirmed

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Speaker 3: Tipped me over the edge for sure.

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Speaker 5: It was such an exciting prospect for me. Obviously, I'd

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Speaker 5: too much to do with him before I signed there.

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Speaker 5: He was still working at the Dolphins at the time,

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Speaker 5: but it was definitely something that really excited.

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Speaker 2: When was the first time you met him? When when

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Speaker 2: was you didn't meet him? Because he wasn't there, like

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Speaker 2: the first few weeks of preseason either, right, So he

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Speaker 2: didn't meet him until what three weeks into.

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Speaker 5: Preseason it would have I think he started early December,

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Speaker 5: preseason at that point. I just remember him walking in

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Speaker 5: see him walking around, and I heard a few of

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Speaker 5: the boys saying he doesn't like shaking hands.

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Speaker 4: So Jackson's the same thing.

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Speaker 5: I wasn't sure what to do, and he come up

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Speaker 5: to me straight away, and like I made eye contacted him,

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Speaker 5: and I was so nervous and he stuck his hand

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Speaker 5: out to shake my hand, and I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 5: at least I didn't have that awkward.

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Speaker 1: Counter it pulls it away, pulls it away last minute. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love.

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Speaker 2: The boys used to say all the time that they

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Speaker 2: like try to get him. It's like one handshaker day

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Speaker 2: or something, right, Like, I.

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Speaker 3: Think I've shaken his hand maybe once or twice since

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Speaker 3: I've met him.

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Speaker 2: So it's so.

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Speaker 5: It's just in general he actually said that, like like

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Speaker 4: Us now Jamie. The next big test, Like you walk

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Speaker 2: Who is when you talk about fitness, who's because every

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Speaker 4: This guy's a freak.

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Speaker 4: I saw him interview the other day. She's class act.

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Speaker 4: But first impressions are so important because, as you know,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was wigging out, Like I genuinely was like

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Speaker 5: It's going to take time, Like it's not something you

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Speaker 5: And obviously for me coming there, it was really important

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Speaker 3: As much as I could, or that's what I thought.

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Speaker 4: Well, Jamie, with your first heading for your first full

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Speaker 4: I mean, you're obviously really fit. But I see Blakes

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Speaker 2: Did you do the Army camp?

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Speaker 3: On top of that as well.

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Speaker 4: Back to the future for Wayne, because the Raiders were

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Speaker 2: Did you do like, obviously that sounds a bit different

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Speaker 5: Well, firstly, it was extremely different, like it was run

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Speaker 1: Shine your shoes they get India.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, they definitely do. But straight away, like we

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Speaker 3: It was very cool. Yeah, that's different.

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Speaker 2: You're probably like a lot of people get The Army

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I mean it definitely still had that kind

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Speaker 4: On Wayne, I think sweets what we're coaching. You train

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Speaker 5: And like you said there, he's massive on those first

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Speaker 5: He's always talks about effort and driving that in the team.

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Speaker 5: And even the standards that you said, he's massive on

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Speaker 4: Who's been your mentor? Like, of all the players on

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Speaker 3: Oh, Cody's been massive? Yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: And it's funny like Cody actually had a pretty interrupted

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Speaker 5: To be honest, Like, I'm pretty sure he was touching

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Speaker 4: the news came out that Canra Murray did his achilles,

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00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,120
Speaker 4: then it came out that Latroal Mitchell could have been

444
00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:49,040
Speaker 4: up to seven or eight weeks out, I think everyone went, yeah,

445
00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,080
Speaker 4: there are in a lot of trouble. I had just

446
00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,440
Speaker 4: initially making your way into the eight. When I heard

447
00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,399
Speaker 4: those injuries, I thought, no, I don't think it can happen.

448
00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,920
Speaker 4: But the emergence of yourself tell us dunk and joke Gray,

449
00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,119
Speaker 4: Joe Gray, Oh, yeah, he's been phenomenal. But Liam or

450
00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,320
Speaker 4: Blanc coming off the bench, yeah, made he was sensational.

451
00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:08,879
Speaker 4: So a lot of you young guys who came on

452
00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,160
Speaker 4: the question, I ask you, you've been in a number

453
00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,080
Speaker 4: of dressing rooms you've been in Manly, tell me under

454
00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,000
Speaker 4: Wayne Bennett at South Sydney, what is the dressing room

455
00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,720
Speaker 4: like on game day?

456
00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,160
Speaker 5: On game day, it's very calm like. It's probably something

457
00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,000
Speaker 5: I noticed straight away. It's very calm like. He just

458
00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,320
Speaker 5: has that presence where I think you mentioned it before.

459
00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,119
Speaker 5: He's been through everything and he's probably seen everything, so

460
00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,000
Speaker 5: nothing fazes him at all, and that definitely rubs off

461
00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:33,520
Speaker 5: on the boys.

462
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,240
Speaker 3: Like I remember my first game was the Charity Shield.

463
00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,199
Speaker 5: We're up in Mudgie and I had actually had started

464
00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,119
Speaker 5: on the bench, so I think by the time I

465
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,320
Speaker 5: come on it was he might have been thirty nil

466
00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,760
Speaker 5: down and we go into halftime, I think thirty to six,

467
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,639
Speaker 5: and I didn't know what I was expecting. If it was,

468
00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,720
Speaker 5: I was expecting a spray. I think most coaches probably

469
00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 5: are thinking that at that time. But he had like

470
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,520
Speaker 5: three or four words to say that look extremely calm.

471
00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:58,720
Speaker 5: Come up to me and said, look, you're going to

472
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,440
Speaker 5: play half back in this second half. That's all he

473
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,760
Speaker 5: said to me. Just do your job, keep it simple,

474
00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,159
Speaker 5: and that's it. We kind of went out and I

475
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,440
Speaker 5: think we come back, might have scored twenty points in

476
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,399
Speaker 5: the second half and kept them to six, and I

477
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 5: just remember that took taking his message away from that.

478
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 5: Nothing phases him like we're thirty zero down in the

479
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 5: trial game, kind of bringing the game.

480
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,359
Speaker 2: Like all in our role players probably respond differently to

481
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 2: the way, like some people like to be ridden quite

482
00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,359
Speaker 2: hard and be pushed some you just got to let

483
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 2: them do their thing. Maybe say a couple of things

484
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,160
Speaker 2: to him. Do you see Wayne treat you differently than

485
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 2: he might treat the other boys, Like, does he knows

486
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:34,960
Speaker 2: he worked everyone out?

487
00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,639
Speaker 5: I think so for sure. Yeah, I think like you

488
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 5: still he's still had the sprain and him on the

489
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,159
Speaker 5: training field of course, and he's got a lot of

490
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 5: tough love as well. But at the same time, he

491
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 5: knows exactly what to say to each person I think

492
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,200
Speaker 5: to get him up for what the job he needs

493
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:50,639
Speaker 5: them to do.

494
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 4: Well telling me Adam Adam Reynolds used to be his

495
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 4: pet and they were sort of like you know, Cheach

496
00:20:55,359 --> 00:21:00,400
Speaker 4: and Chong best together that, Yeah, he's pet piece out

497
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 4: of each other Jack and.

498
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, he used to just take the piss out of

499
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 6: him all day. So like Wayne is obviously like they're

500
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 6: a bit like good cop, bad cop. So obviously, uh,

501
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:13,680
Speaker 6: Ad was back and and Wayne would be you know,

502
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 6: as he does. He tried to get onto the field

503
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 6: after he'd have a laugh and then be a bit stale,

504
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 6: and Reno just say like stupid things like he's the

505
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,400
Speaker 6: time to go back to the retirement home.

506
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,639
Speaker 1: Just put him on show in front.

507
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 4: Of the boys.

508
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 1: But that's the thing, that's what Wayne's good.

509
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 6: You can have a laugh at himself, can't he?

510
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, who's his pet?

511
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 1: Now?

512
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.

513
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:38,120
Speaker 5: He has a really really funny relationship with my good

514
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 5: mate Fletcher and Wires. He's actually a Newcastle boy. Their

515
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 5: their banter is actually hilarious. Like I crack up every

516
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 5: single day every single meeting we have like there is

517
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,440
Speaker 5: something going on and yeah, they're just into each other

518
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 5: every day.

519
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 3: It's very good.

520
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,360
Speaker 1: Letting people know Fletchers.

521
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 2: He was at mainly with possibly one of the most

522
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,360
Speaker 2: unique caacters in rugby league.

523
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 3: Absolutely Woods.

524
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,159
Speaker 1: He used to call him Dama because he just was.

525
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,360
Speaker 2: He thought at any point he could just flip and

526
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 2: become a serial killer. So what are human white? Because

527
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 2: what are hum and Wayne's like, they're both kind of

528
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 2: unique characters.

529
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 1: What are they?

530
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 3: Yeah?

531
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 5: I think that's why they They've got such a funny

532
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 5: relationship is because they're both so unique and Wayne is

533
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 5: actually hilarious, Like he's so funny and he takes the

534
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 5: piss out of Fletched NonStop. But the thing with Fletcher's

535
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 5: he'll give it back. Fletcher's like he's a rookie, he's young,

536
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 5: and I think that's why it works so well because

537
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 5: he probably doesn't expect to get it back.

538
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:41,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, what be more nervous? Charity shield gone on that

539
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 4: second half? We were Round one.

540
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 3: Debut Charity Shield.

541
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I said, I kind of didn't have the

542
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 5: preseason I was preparing myself to have or that I

543
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 5: expected to have. So that was my first time pulling

544
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,400
Speaker 5: on that jersey and yeah, I kind of I knew

545
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 5: the importance of that game is it's only a trial,

546
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 5: but it means a lot to the club, to the fans.

547
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 5: That's probably the biggest thing is the fans, Like they're

548
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 5: at training every day, Like that's something I probably it's

549
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 5: a big difference from from where I've been, is just

550
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 5: how involved the fans are and stuff like that, and

551
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 5: you really feel that connection.

552
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 2: You've got Bunny Bunny's TV. The guy that runs Bunny's TV.

553
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 2: He's always there at the ground, like film and training.

554
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,959
Speaker 4: REGGI rabbit, lending your support to people, you know, taking

555
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 4: matters into his own hands.

556
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 1: Shout out to Reggie. Yeah, how do you like?

557
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 2: Dad asked about what you're more nervous for then, because

558
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 2: you know you're only so early into your career. How

559
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: many games you played, but you've you're looking like you've

560
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 2: played a lot more games than you actually have. That

561
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 2: that moment earlier in the year when you kick the

562
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 2: field goal. Do you find a lot of young guys

563
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,479
Speaker 2: you rarely see him kick field goals? Do you find

564
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 2: you handle pressure like a lot better than most because

565
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 2: it's a big ass to give a young halfback that

566
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 2: moment so early in their career.

567
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 5: Well, I think, I mean, I've taken a lot of

568
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 5: lessons from the people I've been around, and in my

569
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 5: time it mainly I was lucky enough to be under

570
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 5: Daily and Kiren and yourself coops of course. Yeah, So

571
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 5: I just I've taken a lot from them. And I'm

572
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 5: kind of young in terms of games and stuff like that,

573
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 5: but I've been around a fair bit in terms of

574
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 5: my training, and I've done a few pre seasons and

575
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 5: stuff like that, So I've kind of been in and

576
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 5: around it for a long time and definitely taken those

577
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 5: lessons from guys like that, and like guys like Cody

578
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 5: now in my team. So although it feels like a

579
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 5: kind of just starting, it also feels like I've prepared

580
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 5: myself well for this.

581
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 4: This Jamie and I was watching it in the come

582
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 4: to mind and you know, excuse me if I'm completely wrong,

583
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 4: but I never am didn't help you. The fact that

584
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 4: it was a bouncing ball and you didn't have time

585
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 4: to think, like you just had to go and grab

586
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 4: the ball and turn around as creature, couldn't just nudget

587
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 4: like sometimes when you get time you catch the ball,

588
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 4: you're steady, and that one second and me and things

589
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 4: can go through your mind. You didn't have time.

590
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, that was exactly right, Like we were kind

591
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 5: of I was thinking it throughout the set and then

592
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, we've gone.

593
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 3: I think Cody took a short side of play for

594
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 3: as he does, like.

595
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 5: You're seeing something and he's taken, and I'm like, oh, well,

596
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 5: that's not where I want to be when I want

597
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 5: to kick a field goal. Anyway, So like the play

598
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 5: evolved and I kind of. I was chatting to Cody

599
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 5: as it happened and was going to get a two pass,

600
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden he gets a bad pass

601
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 5: from dummy half ends up on the floor, he passes

602
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 5: someone else and then they.

603
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 3: Throw it over my head.

604
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 5: And like you said, I just ended up having like

605
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 5: no time to think, and I knew I wanted to

606
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 5: do it. I was still ended up in a really

607
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 5: good position, and if anything, it probably helped because They've

608
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 5: gone chasing the ball that way and I'm actually over here,

609
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 5: so ended up having a little bit more freedom to

610
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 5: get my kick away.

611
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 1: Bounce pass.

612
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 2: Bounce pass works every time the defense. And poor old

613
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 2: Shane Flanagan flann with our old assistant coach, really gave

614
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 2: him a heart attack up for that game that the

615
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 2: press he did.

616
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jamie, Like, so the first test that you walk

617
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 4: into the dressing room, you're getting through the you're nervous.

618
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 4: The second test is, ya, you're out on the fitness field.

619
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 4: You've got to prove yourself there, prove you worthy, prove

620
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 4: your tough and to push yourself. And the third test

621
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 4: is you need a break through a game. You break

622
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 4: need to break through moment to really after the game,

623
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 4: come off and really phil sing the team song and

624
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 4: feel like you're in the midst of it. That field

625
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 4: goal was at the moment.

626
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 5: Well, I actually never felt that way because I guess

627
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 5: all the messages I got from Wayne was just about

628
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 5: doing my job. Like he never said anything about doing

629
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 5: anything like that, didn't that the team didn't need, or

630
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 5: like trying to stand out, as you said, And obviously

631
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 5: personally I'm probably thinking that a little bit. But after

632
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 5: having those conversations with him, all my focus on doing

633
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 5: my job, and that's I think that's kind of going

634
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 5: into Round one, that was that was the biggest thing

635
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 5: for me. I'd never played in a Round one game

636
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 5: before and I was probably a bit nervous going into that,

637
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 5: to be honest, And he just spoke to me about

638
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 5: make sure you're getting kicks right, make sure you do

639
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 5: you tackles, and that's all that matches, that's all the

640
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 5: team needs. And then you've got guys like Cody and

641
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 5: you've got guys like Jay at the back who can

642
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 5: create out and nothing. So that was like that was

643
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 5: my focus going into those games, and kind of I

644
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 5: think that's probably what helped me, is focusing on that

645
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 5: stuff and the other stuff will come. And in that

646
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 5: round two game, like the opportunity for the field goal

647
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 5: came and I took it, and I'm sure there'll be

648
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 5: many more opportunities to come in the future.

649
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 2: I remember Jack when you when Jack debut at South

650
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 2: I remember saying he would get a text message from

651
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 2: a random number and would just say Rusty at the bottom.

652
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 2: Does he still do that, Russell Crowe? Does he send

653
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 2: the boys text message on their debut or No?

654
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 5: I didn't get one personally, so I don't know Jackman,

655
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 5: But no, Actually I did meet Russell actually in the preseason.

656
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 5: He come into the club and I was stilling my

657
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 5: rehab stuff in the gym and he come right in

658
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 5: and said hello, which I was. Yeah, I was pretty

659
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 5: star struck, to be honest, but yeah, No, that was

660
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 5: a cool moment. But I've heard kind of from the

661
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 5: guys and stuff like that who've been there a while.

662
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 5: He's kind of pulled back a little bit. Oh really, Yeah,

663
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 5: but still heavily involved in club, just probably not so

664
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 5: much with the players.

665
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 4: It's a favorite Russell Crowe movie fell.

666
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 3: I can't get fast Gladiator.

667
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, with the emergence of the second one

668
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: coming out that came out this year or last year.

669
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 2: I think everyone went back and watched the first one.

670
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 2: It just ships on the new one.

671
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: The old one is so good.

672
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 4: I mean, Paul Paul Mescal scary scar. He just doesn't

673
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 4: look like gladiator. He doesn't hold himself like a gladiator.

674
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 4: Too good looking, not to say that, he doesn't have

675
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 4: the fas and he's just got too soft a face.

676
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, correct, what about.

677
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 4: It's my opinion to the Mescal faily.

678
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 2: Look another mainly bloke that rabbits have poached one of

679
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: another one of our teammates, Shoey Josh Schuster.

680
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: How should we been going?

681
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 5: No, she has been really good, like as you know

682
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 5: you've been around him. There's a narrative sometimes that he

683
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 5: doesn't train as hard or whatever, but he trains just

684
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 5: as hard as anyone I've ever seen, and.

685
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 3: Truly he does.

686
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 5: And he's had a few setbacks that his time it's

687
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 5: south so far. He's had a few half injuries and

688
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 5: stuff like that. But he is someone I've seen who

689
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 5: really puts in the work and he trains so hard.

690
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what. If he can get going, Jeez

691
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 4: will be handy as a ball playing back row, you

692
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 4: can just feed the ball too early and get going.

693
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 4: I really hope he does because I really like Shoey.

694
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 4: I played with his uncle. But what I really like

695
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 4: about him Jamie is the fact that he could be

696
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 4: one hundred meters down the road on the other side

697
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 4: of the road and he could yell out, you know,

698
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 4: like he's a gregarious, big personality. I like that he is.

699
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 3: He's He's someone I've got a lot of time for

700
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: se He someone I'm.

701
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 5: Really hoping has a bit of luck with like with

702
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 5: those injuries, and it's hard to come by sometimes, but

703
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,719
Speaker 5: I know, I know he'll put in the work and

704
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what.

705
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: Jesus is into his golf at the minute.

706
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 3: He loves his golf. He loves it.

707
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 2: Every second post on Instagram is the should we playing golf?

708
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: If I said, are you going to training or you

709
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: just out playing golf?

710
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 3: Every time he leaves train he's in the polo and

711
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 3: he's in the shorts. Ready, I'm not kidding. He leaves

712
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 3: the training ground in his polo like straight to.

713
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: The golf court and he's getting some freebies. I reckon,

714
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: he must have six set of clubs.

715
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:10,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, he probably does.

716
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw things. I knew you played with the

717
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 4: London Broncos took in the second but they've actually brought

718
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 4: out a it's recruitment recruitment push and it's called be

719
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 4: like Jamie.

720
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: Really did you know?

721
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 5: I actually did it until I did a bit of

722
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 5: media after the game last week and someone asked me

723
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,479
Speaker 5: about it and I had no idea. So yeah, I've

724
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 5: seen it since then, but yeah, no, I did. I

725
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 5: spent a I spent three or four years there in

726
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 5: the Bronco system. Like my old man worked.

727
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 3: Over as his he worked for British Airways, so did he?

728
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 4: Okay?

729
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, our family moved over there in twenty fourteen, Yeah,

730
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 5: which was a massive move.

731
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 3: I come from a big family, so it.

732
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 4: Was based in London.

733
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, so as.

734
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 5: You know, rugby union's probably the dominant code over there,

735
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 5: when soccer as well.

736
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: Did you play union over there?

737
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

738
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I played.

739
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 5: I played soccer, I played union and I played league,

740
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 5: so league was kind of I kind of got into

741
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 5: league through the London Broncos system there. I played My

742
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 5: local team was the Elmbridge Eagles in yeah, in Surrey,

743
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 5: and kind of got picked up by the Broncos through

744
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 5: that system and then yeah, played there in the under

745
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 5: sixteens in the nineteens and did a bit of training

746
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 5: there with their team.

747
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 4: This is history that club.

748
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is a random question, right, But one

749
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: thing I always noticed about you with your kicking, like

750
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 2: you've got a very perfect ball drop those people that

751
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: don't know about is like the drop from the hand

752
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 2: down to the foot when you're kicking, which you don't

753
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: see a lot in league of perfect ones. Playing union

754
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: and soccer over in the UK, a lot of their

755
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: ball drops are perfect, especially in the Super League. Did

756
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: you get a heap out of your kicking game from England?

757
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 3: Yeah?

758
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 5: I actually I played a lot of soccer as a

759
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 5: young kid, and that's always what Dad said to me

760
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 5: when I ask him. He's like, he didn't let me

761
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 5: play footy until I was a bit older, and he's like,

762
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 5: I just one I love playing soccer and two he

763
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 5: knew it would help me with my kicking.

764
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 3: And no, you're right.

765
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 5: I definitely took a lot from playing rugby union and

766
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 5: those guys in that game, like I always looked at

767
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 5: them and technically they're they're almost perfect with the way

768
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 5: they kicked the ball, even goalkicking as well, Like it's

769
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 5: quite different when you watch union in league kicks the

770
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 5: way they set up the ball, and I think Clear

771
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 5: is probably the closest kicker to he broke me union

772
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 5: kicker in terms of that kind of process, and that's

773
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 5: definitely something I've taken from them and try and implement

774
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 5: into my game.

775
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 4: For sure, we're talking before, but London Broncos Coops and

776
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 4: Jane Bee aware of it. But they were brought up

777
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 4: that they were brought as an affiliate to the Brisbane

778
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 4: Broncos and they would send a lot of the young

779
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 4: guys and play over this. So initially in the early

780
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 4: days they had a really young side.

781
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: Well the Broncos sent them to London.

782
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 4: They would send their players there. So the bloke who

783
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 4: came back and filled in for Joey Leo Donover, he

784
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 4: was a young player who the Broncos said over Brisbane

785
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 4: Broncos London Broncos and they were just it'd get them

786
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 4: rather than play reserve grade or Queensland Cup. It would

787
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 4: basically it would fast track them and they come back anyway.

788
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 4: The interesting story about it is the fact that Richard Branson,

789
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 4: when Super League first hit Richard Branson was watching rabul

790
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 4: League on TV and said, I love this sport. So

791
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 4: he bought the London Broncos outright. So we went over once.

792
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 4: We went over to Southern Dave fairly and we stayed

793
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 4: at Tony Ray's place and he was the coach of

794
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 4: the London Broncos at the time and he was like,

795
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 4: you want to go to Richard Brandson the nightclub and

796
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 4: fucking a. So we walk in. There were flamingos walking

797
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 4: around in the nightclub or actual life life flamingos.

798
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: Wow.

799
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 4: One of the London Broncos boys who actually played at Newcastle,

800
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 4: Minor Ronnie Gibbs one of the Flamingos and got thrown

801
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 4: out for life.

802
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: Ronnie Gibbs.

803
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 4: Gibb you know that he used to dive at the

804
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 4: feet of the kickers when.

805
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: They kick sat read the room. Look at the reference

806
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: you make to Gives. I'm sorry, we don't even who

807
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: Ronny Gibs. You know what Ronni Gibbs is?

808
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 4: Ronnie share to Ronnie. Yeah, that's just shut you up. Sorry,

809
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 4: That's what is all about. It's a clash of generation.

810
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 2: Clash of generations. Before we move on, just go back

811
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: to Sous for a second because in recording this where

812
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: you're leading into the Rooster's game, big Souse and Rooster's rivalry.

813
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 2: Obviously your first year at SOUSE, is the week a

814
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: big emotional week, Like it seems like Saus really buy

815
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 2: in to their history.

816
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 3: History is massive.

817
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 5: It's like probably the first kind of we talk about

818
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 5: impressions of the club. Like everyone talks about the history.

819
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 5: It's it's written on all the walls at our training center.

820
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 5: There's photos of every team of every era, and yeah,

821
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 5: the history is a massive part of the club, and

822
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 5: obviously the rivalry the Roosters is a big part of that.

823
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 5: And it's exciting for me. Kind of got into this

824
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 5: week and it's probably been. Nothing's really changed for us

825
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 5: in terms of our training and stuff like that or preparation.

826
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 5: Wayne likes to keep things pretty simple, as I've said, so,

827
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 5: but no, it'll be it'll be a big game, and

828
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 5: luckily we've got some troops coming back for it, which

829
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 5: I'm very excited for.

830
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 4: The left center's handy.

831
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, he goes.

832
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 4: My god, he looks fit.

833
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 3: I reckon he had about ten triers of training the

834
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 3: other day.

835
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'll tell you right now, like I've got

836
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: a good eye for talent. I reckon it'll be something really,

837
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: that's my tip.

838
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 4: Like who's coaching South Sydney. I reckon one day he'll

839
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 4: be a career coach as well.

840
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: Yeah it'll be Premiership when one day.

841
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 4: First on backstage, weird question.

842
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: For you when you were over in England, given the

843
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 2: time difference and everything, did you actually get to watch

844
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 2: much NRL?

845
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 4: No, not at all.

846
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 5: I did because I mean, growing up, I'm massive footy head. Yeah,

847
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 5: obviously been around it for so long, Like I love

848
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 5: watching footy, but it's just it's yeah, like you said,

849
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 5: it's hard with the time difference and everything like that.

850
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 5: I try and catch the highlights and stuff like that,

851
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 5: but rugby union and football soccer definitely dominates the TV

852
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 5: over there.

853
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 3: That's the other thing.

854
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 5: Like it's barely on TV, so it's kind of kind

855
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 5: of hard to come by. And yeah, I try to

856
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 5: watch as much Super League as I could as well,

857
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 5: But no, I really didn't have much. Yeah I thought.

858
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 2: I spoke to Josh Kiddy last week and he was

859
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 2: he was saying he watches every AFL game from from Chicago.

860
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, he gets up all watching RL. App now where

861
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 4: you can watch the rules making. I think it's shown

862
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 4: on Fox Sports two over there, but there's no, I'm sorry,

863
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 4: on on Sky but there's no real app. We see

864
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 4: all the games over there now. Yeah, it's it's funny

865
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 4: like the EPL. The English Premier League is such a

866
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 4: monolithic beast. There's even rugby union clubs going broke over

867
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 4: there now. They're just taking all the sponsorship, all the

868
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 4: broadcast money. It's just so big. Here was your side

869
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 4: over there?

870
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 3: I was an Arsenal man.

871
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: Jack you Arsenal, wasn't Jack?

872
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 5: Yeah?

873
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 4: Will we die?

874
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 3: Yeah?

875
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 4: Liverpool man?

876
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, so's my dad and my brother.

877
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 4: Actually you can't when you grow up throughout through the eighties, Liverpool, Liverpool, Liverpool.

878
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 3: Yeah a second dad and my brother big fans. So yeah,

879
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 3: every time Arsenal would play Liverpool, me and my brother

880
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 3: would have that little rivalry.

881
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: You go down to the pub and just fight on

882
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: the street.

883
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 4: Was it the Emirates then or were they still playing

884
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 4: at Highbury?

885
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 3: No, the Emirates, Yeah it wasn't.

886
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, you go many games, not as because.

887
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 3: We were playing sport when whenever they play. But I

888
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 3: went to a couple when.

889
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, I loved it like you said, it's it is

890
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 5: so big over there.

891
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: It's well, it's it's like a.

892
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 2: Religion, right yeah, Like we were joking about you guys down

893
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: down in the pub and fighting, but when it's a

894
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: rivalry game, talk about Souths and Brewsters, like they'd be

895
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 2: going down and if there's the opposition team coming, you'll

896
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: run on the other way because they'll actually beat you

897
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 2: up on the street.

898
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 5: Right.

899
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like I've never really seen anything quite like it.

900
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 5: It's yeah, a lot of people's livelihood base is based

901
00:37:58,840 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 5: around if the team wins them.

902
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 2: The English fans, they're just so good, Like even earlier

903
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 2: this year in Vegas, awesome Wigan, who do we can

904
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: play against Warrington? But the fans were just the singing

905
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: and the chanting.

906
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 5: Like even in the rugby union. I remember watching a

907
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 5: few games at Twicken Them like when the Wallabies would

908
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 5: go over and play and the whole stadium is singing.

909
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 5: It's like it's yeah, it's like it's it's sweet, sweet

910
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 5: que the atmosphere.

911
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, how did you.

912
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 2: Get to Manley going from England? When you come back

913
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 2: to Australia, how where was the transition from London? Broncos

914
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:34,479
Speaker 2: to Mainley, all.

915
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 5: Right, So I think we always planned as a family

916
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 5: to come back. Obviously, we've got a lot of family

917
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,959
Speaker 5: here in Australia and Dad kind of went over there.

918
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 5: He worked for British Airways previously as well, so it

919
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 5: was always planned to be like kind of a short

920
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 5: kind of stint and he actually finished up there and

921
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 5: he started working at Manly, So Dad came back home

922
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 5: and yeah, went into the role of Cel Manley.

923
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I.

924
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 5: Actually I was in school at the time and it

925
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 5: was kind of weird timing for me. I'd just kind

926
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 5: of finished my first season of under nineteen at the

927
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 5: Lindon Broncos and was in school kind of finishing that,

928
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 5: and that kind of come to me and asked.

929
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 3: Me, He's like, well, are you interested in coming back?

930
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 3: My family were going to stay for a little bit.

931
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 5: Are you interested in coming back early and kind of

932
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 5: getting started at Mainly, And I genuinely had to think

933
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 5: about it because I wanted to finish school and at

934
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 5: the time I felt very settled there and there was

935
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 5: opportunities to progress through the London system or possibly go

936
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 5: to another Super League club at the time, and I

937
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 5: just I knew I wanted to come home, and I

938
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 5: knew if I wanted to chase my dream.

939
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 3: Which was to play footy, the best place to do

940
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 3: that was here. And it was kind of a big move.

941
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 5: Again, like I'd never actually lived on the Northern Beaches

942
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 5: until I moved here in twenty twenty, so I kind

943
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 5: of moved here and it was a well win because

944
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 5: at the time it was COVID, I didn't know anyone,

945
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 5: I wasn't in school, and then footy got canceled, so

946
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 5: I'm like, what am I doing. I'm I lived across

947
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 5: the road here at Coloroid, and I'm just like, I

948
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 5: wasn't sure if I made the right decision, but kind

949
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 5: of got into the group of things there as the

950
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 5: SG ball season kicked off, and I was really lucky

951
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 5: to have a really good team and a good coach.

952
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 4: I mean, streets around here, how did you handle the

953
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 4: gang warfare?

954
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 3: Yeah?

955
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 5: No, on the on the walks down to the beach,

956
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 5: it gets a bit messy sometimes, So yeah.

957
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 4: I'm having an to the guys in East la and blood,

958
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 4: but maybe bringing a franchise out here. How was it

959
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 4: going from you playing for London Broncos just suddenly your

960
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 4: first game out here.

961
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, completely different, like and I never like kind

962
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 5: of was in the system here. I left when I

963
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 5: was twelve eleven, so I'd always played junior footy in

964
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 5: the Southern Shire in I played for delas Al. I

965
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 5: was lucky enough to be coached by Adam Dykes and

966
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 5: I had like played with k Dikes he's at Cronulla

967
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 5: and sam Stone Street.

968
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 2: He's also oh he's having a good year Sampson.

969
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 5: We were all in the same team growing up and

970
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 5: like we barely lost the game, to be honest. So

971
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 5: moving over to England and it was actually something Dad

972
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 5: always said to me, I can't drop my level to

973
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 5: the players around me because they don't play a league

974
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 5: over there as much.

975
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,479
Speaker 4: So that's hard.

976
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 5: I was guilty of it, I think, And I don't

977
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 5: know if it's coaching or anything like that, but it

978
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 5: is very different style. So coming back to Ship or

979
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 5: everything felt so quick to me, like so quick. Did

980
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 5: just struggle initially, like I think I did. Yeah, I

981
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 5: think I think I struggled to adapt a little bit.

982
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 5: But at the time I was so lucky to have

983
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 5: a good team around me, like guys like Kyo played

984
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 5: in that team, Tolu y.

985
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 4: Yeah go.

986
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 5: So, yeah, we all come through together, which was massive

987
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 5: for me. They were all kind of part of the

988
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 5: spine with me, and I think that definitely helped. And

989
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 5: Brett Fulton was the coach and he helped me massively

990
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 5: as well, just kind of getting getting I know, how

991
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 5: to play footy. It is probably just adapting to the

992
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 5: speed of everything. And honestly, it was the best thing

993
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 5: I ever did coming back early because I didn't and

994
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 5: I waited a year or waited a couple of years.

995
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 5: Who knows if I would have made the adaptation.

996
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 4: So you'll be playing good football, comes attention, you get

997
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 4: to your own media headlines and you know, and even

998
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 4: just going out about getting to get a coffee and

999
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 4: people Jamie, you congratulates how you're finding that.

1000
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's again.

1001
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 5: I think back to Wayne and what he kind of

1002
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 5: instills and one of the first things he said to me,

1003
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 5: kind of before the trial games even started, just like,

1004
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 5: just don't pay any mind to it. He's really big

1005
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 5: on not and it's a hard thing to do, but

1006
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 5: to not have feelings on how people feel about you.

1007
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 5: At the end of the day, it's just an opinion.

1008
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 5: And he was he was he said. I remember him

1009
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 5: saying to me, like, they'll be the first ones to

1010
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 5: praise you when you're playing well, but at the same time,

1011
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 5: they'll be the ones that write the articles when you're

1012
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 5: not doing too well. So if you pay our mind

1013
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 5: to it either way, then and you know what you're

1014
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 5: doing and trusting yourself and in the team and what

1015
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 5: he's doing, then that's all that matters.

1016
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 3: And that's kind of the mindset that I've had with

1017
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 3: it all to see.

1018
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 4: How suonn you have any policy on social media?

1019
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 5: No, not not particularly, but at the same time, he's

1020
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 5: just he's all about making sure your focus is on

1021
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 5: footy and not on the outside stuff. And that's something

1022
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 5: that I've kind of had to get used to a

1023
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 5: little bit, even talking to media and sometimes talking to

1024
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 5: fans and stuff. I almost feel bad that I can't

1025
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 5: give him as much time or as much kind of

1026
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 5: attention is probably that they like, but at the same time,

1027
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 5: probably need to be a bit selfish myself.

1028
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 4: And yeah, you're at the start, yeah exactly.

1029
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I kind of I lean on a few

1030
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 5: people who have helped me along the way, and Dad's

1031
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 5: one of them as well. He's he's been big on it,

1032
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 5: and it's just focusing on what I'm doing and not

1033
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 5: too much.

1034
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 6: On the media.

1035
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 4: Have been caught a few times, you know when used

1036
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 4: to go on away trips. Our big go was with

1037
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 4: a young play. You're ringing go good day, Steve Simpson, yep,

1038
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 4: ringing the mobile on the back in the day it

1039
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 4: was the hotel phones, Steve Simpson, because you know, because

1040
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 4: you know you're because I'm trying to We figured it out,

1041
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 4: Steve Simpson. There, yeah, here's this. My name's my name's

1042
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 4: John Laurie. I write for the DEI Telegraph. Can't just

1043
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 4: ask a few questions? Oh yeah, sure you know where

1044
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 4: were you born? And just go now made Listen, I'm

1045
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 4: asking a lot here. But our photographer is downstairs. He

1046
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 4: wants to get a photo for the back page. Make

1047
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 4: sure you're wear tracksuit and everything. So make it so

1048
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 4: you go down. The rookie players would be sitting down

1049
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 4: in the hotel for you. Just yes, I remember we

1050
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 4: found it funny.

1051
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 2: Peter Robinson who was like he's he was the wealth officer.

1052
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: At Melbourne Storm.

1053
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 2: I remember our second year there. He got Harry Grant

1054
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 2: saying that he had a he had a radio interview,

1055
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: but it was just robot and he goes he did

1056
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 2: a full like a full back around. It's like, well,

1057
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,919
Speaker 2: welcome to Melbourne Firm. Here, I want to see boy five.

1058
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 2: And we've got Harry Grand down the line and Harry

1059
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 2: is like start asking all these questions and like sort

1060
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 2: of luped him up a little bit and then just

1061
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 2: started throwing all these fake headlines at Harry. You know, well,

1062
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: your coach has come out during the week and he's

1063
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 2: given you a big challenge saying that you know, he

1064
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 2: doesn't think he may have played you a little bit

1065
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: early in first grade and you're not sort of ready

1066
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,959
Speaker 2: for this level. Does that challenge just that challenge really

1067
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: enforced And Harry's going, yeah, you know, I suppose you

1068
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 2: know he's honest, and.

1069
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: He tells it how it is, mate.

1070
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: He had him going for like fifteen minutes, just sort

1071
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 2: of just all these little back, back stabbing questions.

1072
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 4: We had a bloke called Darren Tracy and we'd ring

1073
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 4: him and gad, Darren, how are you going? Yeah, yeah, look,

1074
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 4: I can't say who I am, but I'm a scout

1075
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 4: for the Western Suburbs. We've been watching what you're doing, mate,

1076
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 4: you're loving it. You're really really good mate. Listen, is

1077
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 4: there any chance there's a coffee shop just across the roads.

1078
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 4: Che's coming over there, mate, I'll be there in about

1079
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 4: fifteen minutes, just quick, you go, Oh yeah, mate, you'd

1080
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 4: undertand I'm going to keep this really quiet. So then

1081
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 4: he'd go across and he'd sit and then I'd round

1082
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 4: a few of the boys up before us, and we

1083
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 4: go into the coffee shop and we'd just be standing.

1084
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 4: We go, hey, what's Darren. What's doing mate? You go on,

1085
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 4: not much mate, Oh you're waiting on? Oh no, no,

1086
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 4: I just come over for quite coffee. Yeah, no worries mate,

1087
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 4: your mind. If we sit down and we'd sit with

1088
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 4: him and you could see him just going fuck.

1089
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 2: Remember when we were at Manly, Remember the prank war

1090
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 2: that went on for a bit. John Bonisara JB had

1091
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: to put an end to. He's like, guys, it's getting

1092
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 2: too far. Morgan Harper was in the heart of it.

1093
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: Half Josh Alloway, Yeah, I think Josh through Josh through

1094
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 2: Harps's bag in the water. And then somebody put took

1095
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 2: Harps's car off, like the wheels off.

1096
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 4: It all start took us through.

1097
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 2: It just it started so suddenly like it would have

1098
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: been someone took took a weight off their barbelle in

1099
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 2: the gym, so it was uneven, and it just gradually

1100
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 2: just keep going back and forth and back and forth.

1101
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: It ended because I think Joshy Alloway all Harps thought

1102
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 2: that Jason Saab was involved when he wasn't. Sarabi had

1103
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 2: nothing and he just bought this beautiful new Designer white

1104
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 2: T shirt and it was hanging in his locker and

1105
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: they I don't know who did it, but they took

1106
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 2: it outside and smeared dog ship all over it and

1107
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 2: he put it on because they did it on the back,

1108
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 2: so he's put it on and on the back, so

1109
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: he was walking around. Somebody had to say, Sabi, you

1110
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 2: got ship on your shirt. And Sabi had no involvement

1111
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: in the war at all.

1112
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: That was ruthless.

1113
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 3: It was hilarious.

1114
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 4: Morgan Harper's cat they removed.

1115
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: They took the tires off and they put it on bricks.

1116
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 2: And remember someone did something to Jimmy Dimmick's motorbike. Oh yes,

1117
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 2: they took they took the pin out or something. Yeah,

1118
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 2: just one thing and like they flicked it out and

1119
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 2: he's so I wouldn't start like it wouldn't. They wouldn't

1120
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 2: ignite and start, and all he had to do was

1121
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,439
Speaker 2: just put it back in. But Jimmy, not like knowing

1122
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 2: much about motorcycles, obviously rang like the nrm A and

1123
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 2: was there for like three hours and they came and

1124
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 2: he was treated.

1125
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: Like they were like, oh, you just have to put

1126
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: this and he was like it was so funny. Yeah,

1127
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 1: they were ruthless, some of those boys.

1128
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 5: I think that's how it all started with the car.

1129
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 5: Someone blame Sabi and then he got thrown into into

1130
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 5: it all and then yeah, god, yeah they had to

1131
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 5: put a stop to it because who knows where it

1132
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 5: would have gone.

1133
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 2: Oh make good time, Like was going back to manly

1134
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 2: for a second, Yeah obviously, Yeah, did come through their

1135
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 2: SG ball twenties, end up full time and talk to

1136
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 2: us about the circumstances the relationship between you and man

1137
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: Like when when did you were they not going to

1138
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 2: re sign and you went okay, well old fire opportunity

1139
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 2: at South or did they want to resign you?

1140
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 5: Well, so I guess going back to it, Like like

1141
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 5: you said, come through playing SG ball there came through

1142
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 5: like progress through all the grades played, flag played, carp

1143
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 5: did my first pre season with Theirs, which was yeah,

1144
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 5: it was.

1145
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:58,720
Speaker 2: I'll never forget.

1146
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1147
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,959
Speaker 5: I even remember before that he'd call me in because

1148
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 5: I always used to like go on the field of

1149
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 5: narrab And and kick.

1150
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 3: I just practice, and.

1151
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 5: He'd sometimes just be walking around behind the behind the tree,

1152
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 5: just looking around so I couldn't see him. And I've

1153
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 5: seen him a couple of times and I like would

1154
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 5: go over, like walk over, like with my hand out

1155
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 5: looking to shake his head and just walk away. Would

1156
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 5: show no interest, even though he knew I was doing

1157
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 5: the free sason with him. And then one day he

1158
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 5: come after me, like when I was kicking.

1159
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 3: He's like he gave me.

1160
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 5: He's like, I don't want you to do this training

1161
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 5: before we start. At the time lived down here at

1162
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 5: Colorade's like, all right, I want you to start here

1163
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 5: at Coloroid Beach.

1164
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,919
Speaker 3: Go around, go up around long reef, around the golf course.

1165
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 3: Run yeah.

1166
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, he told me to do that.

1167
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 5: He's like, mate, you better be doing it because I'll

1168
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 5: be watching. He lives on the beach, so I'd be

1169
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 5: out there every day every day doing tough. I never

1170
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 5: saw him, never saw him once. I bet he wasn't

1171
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:49,919
Speaker 5: even there.

1172
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 4: A lot of those coaches started strength and conditioners. That

1173
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 4: was first thing. He was fitness trainer of the Bronco.

1174
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 4: I think Wayne was originally when for the police Force team.

1175
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, actually yeah, I remember asking him about that. Yeah, yeah,

1176
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 5: was the same I heard back in the day. He

1177
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 5: was as fit as they can.

1178
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 4: That was his run around the long reef.

1179
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 2: Well, back in the olden days, like before the error

1180
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 2: of you know you have three assistant coaches, Yeah, you

1181
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 2: have all this stuff. There was one or two of you,

1182
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 2: so you had to kind of be skilled in all

1183
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 2: areas gym, fitness, attack, defense, you know.

1184
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 4: Now a's a psycology, player, welfare, all of one.

1185
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 2: Media manager Yeah yeah, massage therapist yeah.

1186
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: Shout out quite a craig.

1187
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, I'll get back to you.

1188
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1189
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1190
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,439
Speaker 5: So I come through and yeah, like I said, trained

1191
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 5: with des and then obviously whatever happened there and Seeps

1192
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 5: come in and I had my first season with Sieves

1193
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 5: and kind of felt like I had a.

1194
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 3: Really good pre season, which is what they kind of

1195
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 3: told me as well, and.

1196
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 5: Kind of started in the halves, which is where I'd

1197
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 5: always played, and then kind of halfway through that year,

1198
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 5: Steeves come and spoke to me and said, look, I

1199
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 5: feel as though your best progression in the first grade

1200
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 5: will be as a hooker.

1201
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 3: Which at the time is probably fair.

1202
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 5: Like Fozz and Cherry were there at the time in

1203
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 5: the halves and Chewy was doing good things as well,

1204
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 5: so as a young guy coming through, that's kind of

1205
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 5: where they saw me. And he basically said to me, look,

1206
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 5: we want you to we want you to try this

1207
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:28,439
Speaker 5: transition to see how it goes.

1208
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 3: And I was more than happy to do it. Like

1209
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:31,760
Speaker 3: I said, I've been at the club.

1210
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: For a long time and you're playing. Really I remember

1211
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 2: I was there when you moved to hooker. You're playing,

1212
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 2: you're playing out You played outstanding as a half back

1213
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: and a hooker.

1214
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 4: Well, it's a good way to get first in the

1215
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 4: first grade because of the fact that you don't have

1216
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 4: to organize every woman. Yeah, you get out there and

1217
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 4: just make your tackles and you just go.

1218
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 5: Even I think even at the time when Des was there,

1219
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 5: he kind of said the same thing to me. So

1220
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 5: he said, look, most likely you're probably going to come

1221
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 5: in as a fourteen or someone who can cover half

1222
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 5: the hooker and like that made sense to me at

1223
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 5: the time and gone back to your point keeps and

1224
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,760
Speaker 5: I went back there and played flag and carpet hooker

1225
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 5: and I felt like I was doing good things there

1226
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 5: And anyway that the year kind of fizzled out and

1227
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 5: come in, did our interview meetings as you do, and Yeah,

1228
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 5: basically said like he wants me to have a full

1229
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 5: preseason next years as a hooker, like only focus on that,

1230
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 5: and I was like, okay, just wrap my head around that.

1231
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 5: And coming into preseason was probably a really good thing

1232
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 5: for me because at the time I was still I

1233
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 5: was playing some games at hooker, some games at halves.

1234
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 3: And like depending on where injuries were hard to prepare.

1235
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and like even at training, like on the

1236
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 5: weekend I was playing in the harves, but at training

1237
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 5: I was only doing stuff at hooker. So I was like,

1238
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 5: it was a bit unsure how things were going to go.

1239
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 5: And that gave me a lot of clarity coming in

1240
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 5: and just focusing on being a hooker, which was interesting

1241
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 5: for me because like I said, I'd always come through

1242
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 5: as a half, so that was a really big challenge.

1243
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 5: I remember obviously wrestling with the forwards and.

1244
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 3: Doing all the role and rocks so like, and it

1245
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 3: really is.

1246
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 5: It's a completely different preseason to what I'd probably been

1247
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 5: used to, So it probably probably helped tough me up

1248
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 5: a bit as well.

1249
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 4: Just the very nature of HOOKI just moving all the time,

1250
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 4: ruck to ruck up and back.

1251
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 3: And I probably had a lot to learn.

1252
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 5: Like that's kind of when Mick Ennis come in and

1253
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 5: was doing a fairbit and I can't help. I can't

1254
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,720
Speaker 5: thank him enough for the help he gave me, especially

1255
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 5: kind of mindset wise in that position. So yeah, I

1256
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 5: had a really good pre season, felt like I was

1257
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 5: doing a lot of things right. And actually at the time,

1258
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 5: I think Kroas was injured, so I was getting a

1259
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 5: lot of reps kind of in that NL side, which

1260
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 5: was like, it's what.

1261
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 4: You want to be doing.

1262
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, So kind of the time rolled around where we

1263
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 5: were preparing to go to Vegas, and at that time

1264
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 5: is when kind of we spoke about extending at the club,

1265
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 5: which was cool and it was something I was really

1266
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 5: keen to do. I was excited by the prospect of

1267
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 5: kind of being their long term. It was the club

1268
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 5: i'd kind of come through the grades with and it's

1269
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 5: very exciting for me.

1270
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 2: So a lot of your mates are there too.

1271
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 3: Under Like like you said, I came.

1272
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 5: Through the grades with a lot of them, had grown

1273
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 5: really close to a lot of the older guys there

1274
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 5: and hails how's he of course shout out to Stephen

1275
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 5: how is he? He was always there and giving me

1276
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 5: advice and stuff like that as well. So yeah, all

1277
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,720
Speaker 5: the coaching stuff were really good. We mentioned Jimmy Dimmick

1278
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 5: as well. So yeah, it kind of came around and

1279
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 5: it was left out of the Vegas trip, which was

1280
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 5: it was what it was, and they kind of said

1281
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 5: to me like, oh, we want you to play in

1282
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 5: the next trial game. I think it was at the

1283
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 5: Broncos at Brookie and ended up playing in the halves again.

1284
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 5: So I'm kind of like, right, I've done the whole

1285
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 5: preseason at hook and now I'm back in a half And.

1286
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was probably just probably.

1287
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 5: Just trying to understand my role within the team and

1288
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 5: I didn't really see that. And at the time the

1289
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 5: club was saying they wanted me long term as a hooker,

1290
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 5: so it was kind of at that time where it was,

1291
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 5: and I was off contract at the end of the

1292
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 5: year as well, So and mainly had also said to

1293
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 5: me they wouldn't stand in the way if another opportunity

1294
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 5: came up. So yeah, was playing the year started hooker,

1295
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 5: about two or three games he didn't got moved to

1296
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,240
Speaker 5: the halves again. So now I'm playing in the halves

1297
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 5: and yeah, that's kind of when we got a bit

1298
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 5: of interest from other clubs, and I think they probably

1299
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 5: were aware of the situation that unsettled.

1300
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: A little bit is the word.

1301
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, But yeah, it was still.

1302
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 5: Loving my time there and love being around the boys,

1303
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 5: and yeah, that's when Souths kind of really kicked up

1304
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 5: their their interest in me and kind of pitched me

1305
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,919
Speaker 5: the idea of yeah, the opportunity to play consistent first grade,

1306
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 5: which is probably where what I wasn't getting at the

1307
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 5: time because it.

1308
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: Was bizarre, right, like, you signed two weeks before you

1309
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:35,720
Speaker 2: actually make you NRL debut at Rocky.

1310
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you go out there in the.

1311
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 2: Halves, well after doing a whole pre season of book again,

1312
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,479
Speaker 2: but you play out standing I think, and you score

1313
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 2: a good try. A lot of Manly fans were kind

1314
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 2: of puzzled, going, hang on, we've had this bloke and

1315
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 2: we've let him, We've let him go off contract, haven't

1316
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 2: stood in the way of him signing with South. We've

1317
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 2: just you know, blooded him in the first grade. He's

1318
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 2: playing outstanding. Why have we let him go?

1319
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was I mean, it was all a bit

1320
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 5: of a whirl win for me as well. Like to

1321
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 5: be honest, I spoke about it before. I wasn't sure

1322
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 5: where I stood, and that was probably the hardest.

1323
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 4: Thing for me.

1324
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 5: I just I didn't know, and that's probably what made

1325
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 5: up my mind in the end. If I felt if

1326
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 5: I felt settled and comfortable in where I was and

1327
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 5: what the club saw on me and where I was

1328
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 5: going to go, I probably would have never had any

1329
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 5: intention of leaving. Like I love the club, I love

1330
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 5: the fans, love all the boys, So it was a

1331
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 5: big thing for me to kind of move. I never

1332
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 5: had any intentions of doing that. But at the same time,

1333
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 5: all the stuff that the house was saying to me

1334
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 5: was exactly what I wasn't getting from me.

1335
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 3: So yeah, it kind of made up my mind in

1336
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 3: that regard.

1337
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 5: And obviously having Wayne coming there as well, I knew

1338
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 5: that was something as a young player that's that's not

1339
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 5: an opportunity that comes around very often.

1340
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 4: It's funny to say that because danly Chree even said

1341
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 4: exactly the same thing.

1342
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what the best part about that

1343
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 2: joke is it doesn't get old. It's even better here

1344
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 2: when you hear it the second time around.

1345
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 4: It be funny all year.

1346
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: Seriously, it keeps on going.

1347
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 2: A Jamie look we have do you have a tough

1348
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 2: talk for Jamie?

1349
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 6: Now?

1350
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 4: I don't you don't know you've left it out.

1351
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 2: Dad usually does a segment, right, it's all the hard

1352
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 2: hitting journal journo questions.

1353
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 4: I had one ready saying such as if if Wayne

1354
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 4: offered you a two year extension, but you had to

1355
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 4: give him a massage.

1356
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 5: With your massage, I think I would outsource that to

1357
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 5: my good friend Fletcher.

1358
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 3: Wise, Fletcher do it too, you do it for free.

1359
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 2: Give it a Halsey, Yeah, you know I was. I

1360
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 2: went into the many sheds after the whole the win

1361
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 2: against Eels, after the whole chest saga, see a few

1362
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 2: of the boys, and I told Halsey you were.

1363
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: Coming on the pod. Halsey was foaming as a man has.

1364
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 2: Stephen Hales is he's the assistant coach, one of the

1365
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 2: assistants in at Manly there, but when we were there,

1366
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 2: he sort of looked after the boys. We called him

1367
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 2: the Brady's, like the boys that weren't playing first grade

1368
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 2: who go back to Blacktown. But their job is to

1369
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 2: prepare the the you know, the seventeen for that week

1370
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 2: by mimicking penros attack and things like that. And how's

1371
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 2: he He's just he's just one of the great characters.

1372
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 4: He'd always get absolutely and he was always sweety.

1373
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 2: How's he always had a thin layer of sweat on him.

1374
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 4: And he was so sweating all over the barbecue one day.

1375
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 2: And Brooks's barbecue, anyway, he was, and he was he

1376
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 2: was up there all the time, all the day.

1377
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: He's gone.

1378
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 2: You know, boys, we'd get up there and he'd be

1379
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 2: so nervous because obviously he was so passionate about wanting

1380
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 2: the Bradies to get out there and have a good job.

1381
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 4: Right, so he's just competing.

1382
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: He was actually nervous. He's got are we all on

1383
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: board with this? Are we all on board with this?

1384
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 2: Hails he It's fine, get your cholesterol down, We will

1385
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 2: do a good job for you today.

1386
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: It's okay. One of the great blakes.

1387
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 5: Fuck yeah, we had a lot of He probably had

1388
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 5: a lot of stressful moments out there when we'd start

1389
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 5: doing our own thing.

1390
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, remember when.

1391
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 2: This is it's a good insight this into what it's

1392
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 2: like to not be in the starting seventeen each week.

1393
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 6: Right.

1394
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 2: So a lot of clubs they will kind kind of

1395
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 2: they'll tell you exactly what play by play what to do.

1396
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 2: So Penrith hit this option, they'll go down the short side.

1397
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 2: So the NRL side, they actually know what's coming when

1398
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 2: you're training against them. And I remember how he would say, so,

1399
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 2: we're got to do this, this and this. But after

1400
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 2: a few weeks of doing it, we used to get

1401
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 2: kind of pissed off because like we would where we'd

1402
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 2: see other opportunities and we're not able to take it,

1403
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 2: which isn't good for our football.

1404
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: So I remember we got it. We got in together

1405
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: one day and we were like, you know what, look,

1406
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: we'll we'll do that.

1407
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 2: But like if we do, if we see something, let's

1408
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 2: just take it. Let's at the end of the day,

1409
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 2: it's it's their mistake by not numbering up, and we

1410
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 2: get good reps of practicing our football. I do you

1411
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 2: think he's not going to tell that was our du

1412
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 2: So then I remember we did something we did We're

1413
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 2: doing edge of the edge and our edge. We did

1414
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 2: something that they weren't expecting, just a little variation, and

1415
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 2: we skinned them and it was like it was dead

1416
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 2: sat World War three.

1417
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: It was like, what is going on, Penrith, don't do that.

1418
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: That wasn't on the video.

1419
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 2: Boys, it wasn't in the video, and we're going, guys,

1420
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 2: this is an NRL side. They will probably do something

1421
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 2: that the boys aren't going to expect exactly.

1422
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 5: I can recall a couple of times where that happened,

1423
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 5: and the best times were when we've got to play,

1424
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 5: so all right, keeps you running this play, then we're

1425
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 5: going to get back to this spot and we're going

1426
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 5: to go do this again. And when the boars halfway

1427
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 5: in the air to you as a half, the play

1428
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 5: changes and everyone's screaming. That's the most stressed I've ever

1429
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 5: seen any of those coaches.

1430
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 4: I remember seeing Halsey when you got your I give

1431
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 4: you your jersey that time he walked in. Halsey he

1432
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 4: had all the sausages and steaks and after the barbecue

1433
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 4: and he goes, oh, Maddie, here youing And I never

1434
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 4: met Halsey sign you're doing all right? Just knocking at

1435
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 4: the barbie. He goes, yeah, yes, if you've got a

1436
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 4: butcher shop around here, And he goes no, why And

1437
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 4: I said, oh no, because you're doing the barbie. He said,

1438
01:00:54,560 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 4: I'm Actually, he's.

1439
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: Got to start. He'll love the plug. He'll love a

1440
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: good plug.

1441
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 2: Thanks Jamie for coming over, big effort, pleasure maybe to

1442
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 2: be a part of it.

1443
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: Welcome anytime.

1444
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 4: Thank you, Jamie, Thank you, and my congratulations on how

1445
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 4: you're playing mate. Head down us up, brother, that's good stuff.

1446
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thanks so much.

1447
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 3: Appreciated.