1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Five Double A nine with Matthew pantellas Ian has called 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: in Ian, I understand you run a gallery on Jedti Road. 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 2: Hello are you in HELLI thanks for having me. 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Lais what's going on? Obviously? The road works? 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Look, the situation in Jeni Road is serious 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: and it's getting worse by the week. What we're saying 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: is just not a major disruption, it's an economic collapse 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: for small businesses. And the sad thing is much of 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: this could have been avoided with proper planning, communication and 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: genuine care for the traders who make Jeti Road the 11 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: iconic destination is. Yeah, as we know right now, we've 12 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 2: got the Council pointing the finger at the government, the 13 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: state government pointing it back at the council. Traders are 14 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:47,319 Speaker 2: stuck in the middle and with Reno answers. So what 15 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: we understand is that the Council says that they're pushing 16 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 2: they're being pushed into starting the Jedi Road upgrade at 17 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: the same time as state government's tramwork because of strict 18 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: rules around how close you can work to an active 19 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: tremlin and what hours you can work. So those restrictions 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: are real. But here's what's more important is that there 21 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: was absolutely no meaning, meaningful consideration for traders from the 22 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 2: very beginning, So there was no consultation, there was no planning, 23 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: there was no strategy to protect businesses. So if traders 24 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: have been properly prioritized, they would have done whatever it 25 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 2: took to expedite the project. Put on extra shifts, work faster, 26 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 2: expend construction teams, so businesses weren't left struggling for months 27 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 2: on end. Yeah, look to give you the real numbers, 28 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: because this is what the public wants to hear. Is 29 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: the foot traffic last time last year at this time 30 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: averaged four hundred, eight hundred and forty two people. During 31 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: the roadworks, it's dropped to just two hundred and ten people. 32 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: Now that's that there is a seventy to eighty percent 33 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: drop in trade for most businesses. Yeah, that's per day. 34 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: So no businesses can survive without quickly falling into financial distress. 35 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: And I'm talking about businesses that I've been there for, 36 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: you know, ten twenty thirty years now, questioning whether they'll 37 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: make it to Christmas. 38 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely No, I haven't been down there for a while, 39 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: but I have been down and it is just you 40 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: know as colloquially a dog's breakfast, and the fact that 41 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: you can't cross the road, you know, as a pedestrian 42 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: unless you go all the way around. I just wonder 43 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: how many people are bothering if there's a shop they 44 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: want on the other side, and you know you've got 45 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: to walk up half a k or whatever, you know, 46 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: even a couple of hundred meters, you'd go, well, stuff this, 47 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: I'll just go somewhere else. 48 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I talk to a lot of 49 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: traders and some have told me that they're takings have 50 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: dropped so low that they can't even cover their daily operating. 51 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: They're not even close, you know. I have a look 52 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: at Counter's approach to supporting Jetty Road, and the cracks, 53 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: to be honest, got even wider, you know. They you know, 54 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: take the take the sixty thousand dollars and they put 55 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: on recently the local and the Neon tides. Do you 56 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: know how many people attended that event? How many seventy 57 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: four people for the whole weekend? 58 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: Wow? 59 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: So it was a complete failure. It tells us that 60 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: the marketing is poor. It tells us that the strategy 61 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: is off. It tells us that the money isn't going 62 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: where it's needed. 63 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly. Yeah. 64 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: So now we's got customers begging traders to stay open, 65 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: We've got traders begging the council to help stay afloat, 66 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: and the chain of desperation keeps going because the systems 67 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: aren't in the systems in place, they're not working. 68 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if you were listening this morning, Ian 69 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: on the Breakfast show, David and Will had on and 70 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: I think it was breaking at eight. I don't remember 71 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: if it was or wasn't now, but anyway, they had 72 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: on the manager or one of the managers at the 73 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: Stamford Grant just saying about the lack of communication where 74 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: they've asked counsel for assistance. They've written to council, had 75 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: no response. They've laid off staff or can't give their 76 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: casuals enough work and they're not keeping their bar open, 77 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: closing bars and restaurants because there's no one there. Therefore 78 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: people aren't working. But they've written to the council, had 79 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: no reply. As is with residents as well. We've got 80 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: emails from people and texts about they've written to council, 81 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: has had no reply. You know, if this council next 82 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: year from the mayor Amanda Wilson down thinks they're going 83 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: to be re elected and pad it on the back 84 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: the job well done. Gee, I'd be very surprised if 85 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: any of them get back. 86 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: Yes, So I went to a Jeni Road traders meeting 87 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: in Main Street committee meeting and in that meeting it 88 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 2: was it was very much let's point the fingers, but 89 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 2: we don't have a solution. And you know, I want 90 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: to address this so called support that's being offered because 91 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: on paper, yes it looks good, but in reality it's 92 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: not usable. So the rent relief, it's not relief, it's 93 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 2: a deferral. We still have to pay it back later 94 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: and it's not so it's debt. With the business grants, 95 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 2: you know, the whole Fus City Bay Council have got 96 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 2: many grants. Most require match spending to beautify your shop. 97 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: Who has the money for that when you're taking when 98 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: you're taking the pall by seven eight. So now traders, 99 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 2: right now, I can barely afford rent rate, staff, wages, 100 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: electricity and stop don't have they don't have five or 101 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars sitting around to match a grant. These 102 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: programs were not designed for a crisis. They were designed 103 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 2: for normal times. But we're not in normal times on 104 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: Jetty Road anymore. 105 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: That's right. You run Marlo Galleries and as I understand, 106 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: what are you going to do? You're staying open? Can 107 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: you stay open? What's your future? 108 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: At the moment, I can stay open because I'm relatively new. 109 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: But don't get me wrong, I'm now struggling. You know, 110 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: I come to the time where I thought, you know, 111 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: the top end of Jeti Road is finished. Will will 112 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: be all right? You know, I'll be able to you know, 113 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: I'll be able to do business as usual. I'll be 114 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 2: able to help the traders down Jetti Road that are struggling, 115 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 2: because I'll be fine. Well, now it comes to the 116 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: point where I'm struggling now because of people not coming 117 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: down to Jeti Road anymore and the fact that you know, 118 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 2: press media releases that come out on remember stay On 119 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 2: the eleventh of November, Amanda Wilson got behind a camera 120 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 2: and was saying, you know, please come down support Jeti Road. 121 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: But she said, Brighton. Now the trader's down Brighton on 122 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: JETI Road. Don't need help, trust me, they're running it. 123 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: They're running the advocate of a three point four million 124 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: dollar yeah, while while Jeti Road struggling. Now that's their 125 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 2: highest turnover. This in this financial financial you just gone 126 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: because of Jeddi because no one's going to Jeddi Road 127 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: at Glenel so they're taking on everything else. But if 128 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 2: we flip that reverse fal and I mean that leads 129 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: me to the leadership. You know, we're respectfully calling on 130 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: the mad to seriously reflect on her position within the 131 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: whole Fast Bay Council, not out of anger, but out 132 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: of necessity. You know, we need leadership that fights for traders, 133 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: leadership that listens, and leadership that shows up. 134 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,119 Speaker 1: Do you think she should stand down? That's what you're saying. 135 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: I do, I do, and right now traders feel abandoned. 136 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: So and when leadership loses their confidence in the community, 137 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: especially during the crisis as we know through every other politics, 138 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: then yes we have a question whether that leadership should continue. 139 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: Well there it is, all right. So the line is 140 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: trade is called for the Mare to stand down. That's 141 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: the headline. 142 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: Well, the man to stand down and also the Jetti 143 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: Road Main Street Committee to stand down and have a 144 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: re elected new bench because you know, you go to 145 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: one of these meetings and you know they're talking about, 146 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 2: you know how the jetty rope prestincts. You know, they're 147 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: talking about the ice cream festival, they're talking about the 148 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: the Christmas you know, they can't do the Christmas puget, 149 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: so they're putting on something in the square, you know, 150 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: So that that there also hurts traders because it's all 151 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: about the square, it's not about the road. Then you've 152 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 2: got Year's Eve, so no entertainment New Year's Eve. I 153 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: was talking to Amanda Wilson today and I said to her, 154 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: I'm willing to throw your lifeline. I've got a lot 155 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: of friends that's part of Electric Island that come down 156 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 2: every year to do something in around the April March 157 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: April period. Some DJs. I've got some very well known 158 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: bands that would go down there just to help out. 159 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: It's up it's now up to the council to agree 160 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 2: on that whether they're going to have entertainment with the fireworks. 161 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 2: Otherwise all you do is you'll have fireworks nothing else. 162 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 2: Now you tell me, how is that going to help 163 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: the traders? If you go from a record breaking one 164 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: hundred thousand last year down to maybe ten thousand this year. 165 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it really. Did you tell it to stand 166 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: down today? Did you say you should rethink your position? 167 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 2: I asked, I asked her if she would think about 168 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 2: her position within there, I said, because what's happening is 169 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 2: you've got melanaskis that is labor, You've got a liberal 170 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 2: mayor and the word that came up was punishment. So 171 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: they're punishing Amanda Wilson because she's liberal. Now when I'm 172 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 2: look at it this way is where all people, we're 173 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 2: all human beings, we all got rent to pay, we've 174 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: all got livelihoods to go through. If you are punishing 175 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: the council because the liberal, what does that say for 176 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: the traders. You're also punishing the traders, You're punishing the customers, 177 00:09:55,600 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 2: You're punishing everyone down down Glennell's And if it's because 178 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 2: there is a mayor that is liberal, or how about 179 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 2: we vote in a labor mayor, get this place up 180 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 2: and running again and be able to show showcase glenelg 181 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 2: as a top five destination what it used to be, 182 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 2: because right now we're under the five hundred marks. We're 183 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: actually one of the worst places to come in South Australia. 184 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, that's it. And you'd like to think that 185 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: the government is big enough not to get so partisan. 186 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: And I get it. I mean, she stood in the 187 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: seat of Black and ran as a liberal candidate, and 188 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: you know, politics is unforgiving. But ultimately it's the people 189 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: of Glenelg and the traders who are losing. And I 190 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: hope the government isn't, you know, actively punishing, although it 191 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: does seem to be a bit that way. Case in point. 192 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: I mean, one thing Glannell could use at the moment 193 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: is a bit of a ring route around the road works. 194 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: Have a free bus running and I understand, you know, 195 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: particularly for the busses that pull up. Mind you, they're 196 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: empty when they arrive at Glenell because no one's going 197 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: there on the tram replacement buses. And they could have 198 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: a local bus service that picks people up and takes 199 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: them to Jenny Road and you know, does a loop 200 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: back and does that all day. God knows, they brought 201 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: in forty extra buses from Interstate, they're all empty. They 202 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: could surely spare one to loop around the road works 203 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 1: there and help bring people into the precinct. But you know, 204 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: if they're punishing that ain't gonna happen, but you know, 205 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: you'd hope it's not that, because it is the traders 206 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: ultimately that are losing out here. Ian, thank you for 207 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: the call. We'll leave it there, Colin. Shearing is called 208 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: in CEOs A Independent Retailers. Colin, it must be so 209 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: distressing for you to hear these stories. 210 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 3: Well, it's so sad and it's blending obvious that planning 211 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 3: hasn't taken place at all. I mean, I think the 212 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 3: biggest issue that these main streets have in South Australia 213 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 3: is planning. But it's good planning and quite obviously there 214 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 3: has been no good planning with this whatsoever. And clearly, 215 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 3: these traders like Ian, this turnover, this loss of business, 216 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 3: they will never get this back, no matter how good 217 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 3: they are in the future. They have lost that trade 218 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 3: forever forever. And that's one thing that councils will never understand. 219 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 3: It shows very clearly and verifies what we've been saying 220 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 3: all the way along that councils have no idea how 221 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 3: businesses operate, and vice versa. Businesses have no idea how 222 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 3: councils operate. And one thing that I think is missing 223 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 3: in all this is you have a main street committee 224 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 3: in Glenelg and you have councils sitting on that committee. 225 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 3: I don't think they should be sitting on the committee 226 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 3: because I think it should be the business that drive 227 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: the development, not counsel. Because businesses know what they need, 228 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 3: even the issues around transport that you're talking about, ring 229 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 3: roots around the area. Traders will know what they need. 230 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 3: And one thing is very clear. You know, in six 231 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 3: months or twelve months, whenever this is all over, everyone 232 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 3: will go quiet about what's happened. Although I don't think 233 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 3: it will happen in Glenelk because they've happened. It's happened 234 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 3: on three occasions that I know of now with upgrades 235 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 3: and Jetty Road, and every time there has either been 236 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 3: businesses that have closed or lost masses of turnover and 237 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 3: profits and been unable to reinvest that profit back into 238 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 3: the local community. It's appalling what's happening out there at 239 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 3: the moment. And to have like the Stanford Plaza of 240 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 3: all organizations, you know, the biggest employer in the precinct. 241 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 3: Really come on the radio this morning with David and 242 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 3: Will is unheard of and let's stop this blame game 243 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 3: between state government and local government. I think that's irrelevant 244 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 3: at the end of the day. I think what we 245 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 3: need to look at is businesses driving this process and 246 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 3: really good planning that last, you know, for twenty thirty years, 247 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 3: not for you know, like these three last occasions with 248 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 3: Jeddi right have been within the last couple of decades. 249 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 3: That bit's appalling. So I take my my hats off 250 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 3: to the businesses for surviving. But more importantly, they're going 251 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 3: to lose customers and it's going to take a long 252 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 3: time to build those customers back up. But unfortunately people forget, 253 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 3: and you know, twelve months down the track, when everything's 254 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 3: all tickety boo, people say, oh what happened then, you know, 255 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 3: but the traders. 256 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: Have suffered and they'll never get it back. Like you say, Hey, 257 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: you wanted to talk on net zero as well. 258 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, look I did hear you know, just traveling home 259 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 3: Prime Minister Alban Easy saying that the Liberals position on 260 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 3: not having net zero in their policy is taking away 261 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 3: certainty from business. Well, can I say to you, it 262 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 3: doesn't matter what sort of business you are in this country. 263 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 3: If there's volatility in energy costs and energy costs keep 264 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 3: on increasing, there will never be business certainty in this country. 265 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 3: And no matter what sort of business you are, and 266 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 3: whether you're a business that's totally independent on energy and 267 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 3: have your own soul or farm or whatever and you're 268 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 3: off the grid, you still have to deal with your 269 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: supply chain and your supply chains as you know, they're 270 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 3: all affected by energy. Doesn't matter what you are and 271 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 3: what you do. So I think I think his statement 272 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 3: coming out about you know, by them not agreeing with 273 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 3: the net zero is going to take away the certainty 274 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 3: of business. Well, I think we've got very much uncertainty 275 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 3: in business and that's going to get worse by allowing 276 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 3: these energy costs to keep on going up, but also 277 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 3: the volatility of the energy market affecting all businesses. 278 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Colin, thanks for the call. You running 279 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: for State parliament again this coming election. 280 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 3: No, no, I won't be. No. I believe I can 281 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 3: push other people's buttons in other ways. But you know, 282 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 3: this is more about still advocating for South Australian grown 283 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 3: businesses and owned businesses that are really important. I like 284 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 3: to see everyone's dollars stays in South Australia. 285 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: All right, good on your Thanks for the call