1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: This is the Fitty and Whip with Cake Richie podcast. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen. We also have a guest in the 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 2: studio and he knows a little bit about this state. 4 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 2: In fact, he works very hard on a daily basis. 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 2: Premier Chrismians Welcome Henday. 6 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Nice guys, thanks for having me. 7 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 2: So much going on. We were trying to work out 8 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 2: if you would bring in some mushrooms or tobacco this morning. Yeah, 9 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 2: from Parliament House or did you go over the road. 10 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny. 11 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 3: I saw that in the paper yesterday and I thought 12 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 3: there's just some enterprising drug dealer that thought, you know, 13 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 3: I'm going to hide it in plain sight, the last 14 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 3: place anyone will search. Maybe there's like a maybe there's 15 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 3: a cannabis plan in the basement of Parliament or something 16 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 3: like that. 17 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: It's too obvious. 18 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 3: No. 19 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 4: On a serious note, though, the illegal tobacco war was 20 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 4: a pretty out of control down in Melbourne. You're worried 21 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 4: that they're going to be coming up here at all? 22 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 4: Means you what are you picking up? 23 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I mean I am a bit worried about it. 24 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 3: I've seen what's happened in Victoria, and I mean part 25 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 3: of The problem we've got in New South Wales is 26 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 3: is that US candy stores, if you're saying, these. 27 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: US candy stores. 28 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 3: And tobacco stores and illegal tobacco stores are taking over 29 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: so many of the high streets in Sydney. In my 30 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: elect Kingicogra, there's tobacconists that are popping up all over 31 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: the place. And it does a couple of things. Firstly, 32 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 3: it pushes out other businesses like dry cleaners and hop 33 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 3: red stores and other things that we want in vibrant 34 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 3: high streets because they can't pay the rent, and illegal 35 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 3: tobaccano stores. And then it pushes a lot of laura 36 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 3: abiding citizens into this black market. So my view is 37 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 3: a bit controversial, but I think that the excise that 38 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 3: the federal government has put on is actually driving by 39 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 3: the cheaper cigarettes, cheaper alternatives, and despite I think laudable 40 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 3: efforts and everybody's best intentions, is not working. 41 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 2: It's fed can I ask, I mean, you look at 42 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: the township of Nara and I think in the main 43 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: street now there's fourteen tobaccos, So competition is high. How 44 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,279 Speaker 2: does someone because there's so many of them, it feels 45 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: like anybody could do it so how is it on 46 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: an undercovered team and they might be wandering into these 47 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: tobacco stores saying, hey, can I get a bit of 48 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: your rough cut leaf and then going got youa come 49 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: with me? 50 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: Shut down? 51 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: Next one, got you come with me shut down? 52 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: Like, how do they happen? 53 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 2: Is it? Is it one group running one town or. 54 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 3: Well, when we got to go back a little bit, 55 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 3: and they's absolutely fair questions because it's not i'sough it 56 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 3: takes place on street corners that they put a sign 57 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 3: at the topic. 58 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: Yes, so I accept that. 59 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: When we started, we had seven investigators who were responsible 60 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 3: for it from the Health department, right that they were 61 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: the people who were tasked with closing down a multi 62 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 3: billion dollar perhaps you know, crime network. And we doubled that, 63 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 3: and then we doubled it again and we got to 64 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 3: sixty inspectors. But it's so lucrative and the money that's 65 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 3: to be made is so so much. I mean, I'll 66 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 3: give you an example. The exercise on a packet of 67 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 3: cigarettes in twenty nineteen was sixteen dollars. Today it's twenty 68 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,399 Speaker 3: eight dollars for a pack of twenty for a pack 69 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 3: of twenty cigarettes. So and this is the other interesting thing. 70 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 3: The federal government used to collect sixteen billion dollars. Now 71 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 3: they collect nine So it's the only attacks in the 72 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 3: world where we've doubled the tax and the revenues havelved 73 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 3: and it's all going into this This is a roundabout 74 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: way of me answering your question. It's gone into this 75 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 3: black market. So, yes, we've got inspectors out there. We've 76 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 3: massively increased the fines. We've started a registration regulation process 77 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: where you have to have a license to sell cigarettes. 78 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 3: You never used to have to have. 79 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: That easy to get, but well no, you've got to 80 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: apply for. 81 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: It, and it's it's a government program. But the problem 82 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 3: is it's a bit like someone standing on a beach 83 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 3: trying to stop the waves. Like I'm not confident that 84 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 3: I want to keep those regulation and that law enforcement 85 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 3: in place. But am I going to do that in 86 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 3: the process of having this massive federal excise At the 87 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: same time, I don't think we should drop it to zero, 88 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,839 Speaker 3: but can we have a bit of both a lot 89 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: more enforcement, tougher penalties, and some common sense on the excise. 90 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 4: We have a boring machine here, minsy, it's tom our producer. 91 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: But you've got you've also got a boring machine as well. 92 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 4: Which is boring a huge hole underneath the city of Sydney. 93 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 4: We need an update on the Warringa Freeway upgrade and 94 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 4: the Western Harbor Tunnel. How how far away are we looking? 95 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 4: I mean, we are so excited to get it, but 96 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 4: it has been set back a little bit. When are 97 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 4: we looking? 98 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 5: I mean this question is specifically from Rebel Wilson, who 99 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 5: doesn't want to have to catch a helicopter. 100 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: Again just to get to work. 101 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 5: Come on the sink of Rebel. 102 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's still Australia. 103 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 4: Or she's got a place at Birch Grove I know, 104 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 4: I think which is where the tunnel is. 105 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 5: With a helipad. 106 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, good quote. I don't know it's up to. 107 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 2: Can we sign off that when it opens we'll have 108 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: a motorized ski race yes as an opening. 109 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: Yeah we can. We can lock that into that. 110 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: Great, Thank you mate. Why don't we to talk about 111 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: the commitment that's happening between you and Queensland here? Yes, 112 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: Game two of State of Origin now a tourism campaign 113 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 2: is on the lone is a huge commitment. I mean 114 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: we're one up at this stage. Game two next Wednesday night. 115 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 2: What would it look like for you, minsy if I mean, 116 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: how do you handle it if we weren't to win 117 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: the Origin Series? Do you have to come out and say, Hey, 118 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 2: Queensland the best state in Australia. 119 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I think I'd tackle you before the words. 120 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 3: That's the that's the bear I mean. And the Queensland 121 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 3: premier took the Bet one Niel down in yeah, three games, 122 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 3: so that's the kind of arrogance of the Queensland that 123 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 3: you would expect from a typical Queensland I call to 124 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: take on a bet one down, so the winner the 125 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 3: loser has to record a tourism had for the winner. Yeah, 126 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 3: and my ad, I mean, I guess I'd say the 127 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 3: best thing about Queensland is that it's next to New 128 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: South Wales and there's no beaches. There's no surf above Noos, 129 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 3: so you know, be careful. 130 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: Lots of crocodiles, Cory terrible a day. 131 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 3: We regard that as a good advertising campaign. 132 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: But the rest of the world will say, what's going on? 133 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: It didn't have to be a good tourism matter. It 134 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: just has to be. 135 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 5: I want to I want to pull the curtain aside 136 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 5: for a second, all fair. A question was asked of you, 137 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 5: Bye bye Whipper, our friend, your yours and mine, and 138 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 5: and then we were on air and it was never answered. 139 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 5: And I just don't want to die knowing your answer 140 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 5: to the question how's the body? 141 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: Which is what Whipper asked you just. 142 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 5: Before we went to where And I just got to say, 143 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,559 Speaker 5: Chris Mins, how's the body? 144 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 2: I mean it was in reference to the fact that 145 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: we're the same age. 146 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. 147 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: How is the bodyhole? 148 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: I was explaining that I'd. 149 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: Taken up pilates because there was a few saws and. 150 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: Stiffness, and I said, I'm not that desperate. I was 151 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: my next. 152 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 2: Question, what would you like to join me at peaches 153 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 2: for a midday class? 154 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: So, yeah, it's it's a probably standard forty five year 155 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: old prove it, prove it. I'm not in the ground yet. 156 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 5: Any bits ointment on anything or like, you know, how's 157 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 5: that going? No? 158 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: Not really? 159 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 5: What are you? 160 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: Two and a half years into your term? Now? I 161 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: raised my leg the other day and what was that from? 162 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 3: Mate? 163 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: I was on a bike and I fell over and 164 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: I got scooled and I got crazy. 165 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 3: And in order to put this is going to sound 166 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,119 Speaker 3: a bit strange, but in order to put a band 167 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: aids on it, and I shaved it down a bit. 168 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: I had one one, one shaved leg and one head. 169 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,679 Speaker 5: Leg for the next year's Marti grap. 170 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: And I had to make a decision because my I'd 171 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 3: come down and then I've got three boys and they 172 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 3: just wouldn't shut up about it every day, every morning. 173 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 3: What is going on with those legs? Just make a 174 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 3: decision all off or one off or don't worry about it. 175 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 3: So I left it like that for a while, but 176 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 3: it infuriated everybody. 177 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: So it's not a pretty side. The body is not 178 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: a pretty sight, all right. 179 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: You and I similar bodies, similar fitness. 180 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 4: Well we know how we know how busy you are, premiere. 181 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 4: We appreciate your time. Thank you very much for coming 182 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 4: in this morning, buddy. 183 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: No worries, Thanks guys, I appreciate it. 184 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 2: It's in Whipper with Kate Ritchie is a Nova podcast 185 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 2: walk great shows like this. Download the Nova Player, find 186 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 2: the app store or Google Play.