1 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Kristin Amiot. 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: It's Monday, September fifteen, twenty twenty five. The Coalition has 3 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: recorded its lowest primary vote in the history of News poll, 4 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: a week after Senator Jacinta Numpiper Price was sacked for 5 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: her controversial comments about Indian migrants. The approval rating of 6 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: Opposition leader Susan Lee has also slumped, while Prime Minister 7 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: Anthony Albanesi is riding high with the biggest two party 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: preferred vote since labor Ie government. The former CEO of 9 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: Westpac says the government's big superannuation tax shouldn't go ahead 10 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: in its current form. Lindsay max Said says the plan 11 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: would be a knock to business investment, which the Labour 12 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: Party is relying on to boost productivity. You can read 13 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: those stories right now at The Australian dot com dot au. 14 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: It's the next chapter in Dementia Love Story Today the Australians. 15 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: Louise Bryant opens up about the privilege of caring for 16 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: her partner, who was diagnosed with early onset dementia in 17 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: his forties, and the clarity that comes with a definitive 18 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: diagnosis plus as dementia takes the lead as our nation's 19 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: biggest killer. The Australian and our friends atnews dot com 20 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: dot a U are launching a new series about its 21 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: impact and why prevention is so important in our shared future. 22 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: Louise Bryant is the managing editor of The Australian and 23 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: News Corp Australia's prestige titles Vogue and GQ. As a 24 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: high flying media executive, she's one of the busiest people 25 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: in our Surrey Hills office, if not the publishing world. 26 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,279 Speaker 1: She's also incredibly considerate and has been known to appear 27 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: at our desks with a box of gorgeous croissants at 28 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: exactly the right moment. But Louis has been living another 29 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: life at home with her partner Craig, who was diagnosed 30 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: with early onset dementia a decade ago, aged forty six. 31 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: She calls him Moose. 32 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: Moose and I met in a very typical Aussie setting 33 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 2: at the local swimming club and we fell in love 34 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 2: and have lived a very happy life. Moosus somebody who's 35 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: so mischievous and so full of fun and a real 36 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: lover of life. 37 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 3: And we've had a really lovely life together. 38 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get that vibe from the words that you've 39 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: written in The Australian, the words that our colleague Fiona 40 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: Harari has written, but even from the nickname Moose, I 41 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: feel like you can't be a Moose and be a 42 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: bad time. 43 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: That's right, And I think in the community everybody knows Moose, 44 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: and a lot of people know Moose by name but 45 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 2: probably didn't know that he had dementia. Louise first shared 46 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: the story of Moose's diagnosis and how they've navigated it 47 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: together with the Australians Fiona Harari about a year ago, 48 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: and when I walked up to the local grocer to 49 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: buy the print edition on the Saturday, I've bumped into 50 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: a number of neighbors and friends and many were visibly 51 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: quite mood. They'd read the story and many had known 52 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 2: Moose my name, but didn't know that he had dementia. 53 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: So it was a really powerful story and I think 54 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 2: it was a love story, but it was also a 55 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: story about dementia that was told very differently. 56 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: The reception at work has been similarly warm. 57 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: Of course, I've had some incredible support from my colleagues. 58 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: I always think though everyone's got something going on, and 59 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: perhaps this story might have resonated and was relatable because 60 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: people do have personal issues going on in their lives 61 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: outside of work, and they can be small things or 62 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: big things, or indeed, as I've discovered, many people have 63 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: a loved one with dementia or had a loved one 64 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 2: with dementia, and I think being able to humanize dementia 65 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: in a way that he's done with compassion and empathy, 66 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 2: which is so how Fiona has portrayed this series of stories. 67 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: Shortly after Louise and Moos's love story first appeared in 68 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: The Australian, Moos's behavior changed again. He was confused, oscillating 69 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: between moments of clarity and disorientation, and began to lash 70 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: out physically. On one particularly distressing occasion. Police were called 71 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: to assist in restraining Moose, who's a big guy and 72 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: still has the hallmarks of a lifelong ocean swimmer, so 73 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: a sedative could be administered by paramedics. It was my birthday, 74 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: so I remember the day quite clearly, and bearing in 75 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: mind that normally, if I was there, I could calm 76 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: him down, but this had gone past that point, and 77 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: it was the point of no return, and so when 78 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: the police turned up, I apologized and I said I'm 79 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: sorry that you're here. He's just a big, clumsy, teddy bear. 80 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: And there wasn't much small talk. But they. 81 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 3: Threw him on the ground. 82 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 4: And they started yelling at him to follow their orders. 83 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 4: And I was screaming in my head to say to 84 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 4: my Moose, just fight back. You've done nothing wrong. 85 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 3: This is not your fault. 86 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: And eventually the paramedic was able to put the needle 87 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: in his arm, and afterwards, yeah, he was chemically and 88 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: physically restrained on a stretcher and was sent to hospital. 89 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: Moose bounced between hospital and the home where he was 90 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: living for a while before he was admitted to the 91 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: Prince of Wales Hospital in Sydney, where Louise is by 92 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: his side. 93 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 2: And the last hospital admission, it was evident that something 94 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 2: wasn't quite right and there was a decision made by 95 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,559 Speaker 2: a complex care team that it might be worthwhile doing 96 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: some further investigation into what might be causing this. 97 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: And MRI and lumber puncture performed by Muse's team of 98 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: expert carers revealed definitively a diagnosis of Alzheimer's disease. Previously, 99 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: doctors thought Muse's diagnosis could be alcohol related, a product 100 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: of his days as a brilliant advertising creative. Now Louise 101 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: and Muse's big circle of loved ones, no, for sure 102 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: that wasn't the case. 103 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 2: And I guess it just provides that sense of clarity. 104 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 2: It doesn't change anything, It doesn't change how he's being treated. 105 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 2: It just provides a bit more of an explanation about 106 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: why and how this has occurred. In Moos's case, He's 107 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: of the fifty five percent of which most dementias are 108 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: genetic or of their cause by not by external environmental factors. 109 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 3: So it was inevitable. 110 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: And how does that feel for you? As the person 111 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: who is you said, I guess you're a decision maker 112 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: in his care, but you're also his partner. This is 113 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: the man that you love. 114 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 3: How does that feel to as you say, get that clarity. 115 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: I'm completely heartbroken. It's absolutely devastating, and I guess it's 116 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 2: been a long journey with Craig and this insidious disease. 117 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: I feel like his life has been robbed. 118 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: And I've said this before, but I can't look back 119 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: and I can't look forward. I'm just in the moment, 120 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: I'm here to advocate and care for Craig. 121 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: On that point, you wrote in your op ed for 122 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: The Australian that it is a privilege to care for 123 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: somebody that you love. It's something that, as you said, 124 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 1: most of us will do at some point. 125 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: In our lives. 126 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: Noting the growing prevalence of dementia in the community. Can 127 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: you elaborate on what you mean by that. What's that 128 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: experience been like. 129 00:07:58,440 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 4: For you. 130 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 2: About caring for someone that you deeply love, that they 131 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: let you in to their inner sanctum, they allow you 132 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: to walk the path with them, and in Musa's case, 133 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: it's been quite a joyful ride. We've had many laughs 134 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: along the way. I've seen how he responds to my mum, 135 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: his friends and loved ones. It's really special to experience. 136 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: Coming up a rallying cry for prevention of the nation's 137 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: biggest killer. This year, The Australian's Louise Bryant did something 138 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: she's never done before. She took a volunteer day. 139 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: My volunteer day was with Newer Neurosciencesustralia, which is the 140 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: preeminent institute for brain health and research. 141 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 3: It's the Brain Bank. 142 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 2: Essentially and Professor Matthew Kinnan, who's the institute's director, had 143 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: read Fiona Hirari's story and they reached out to me 144 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 2: and they asked me if I would be willing to 145 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 2: talk at their town hall because they wanted to hear 146 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: about a lived experience with dementia, and they told me 147 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: that it was really vital to their research. And I 148 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: was very honored to speak, and of course I didn't hesitate, 149 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: and I realized then that it was some way I 150 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 2: could give back and provide some insights that might be useful. 151 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: Luis's work with NeuRA has inspired a special series on 152 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: dementia called Think Again, published across The Australian and News 153 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: dot Com Dot a U from today. The series will 154 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: explore the impact of dementia, which is now the leading 155 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: cause of death in Australia, delve into the science behind 156 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: the disease, and provide vital steps all Australians can take 157 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: to lower their risk of developing dementia or delay it's 158 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: on set. 159 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 2: After I spoke at the town hall, I was warned 160 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: about a looming health crisis, which is dementia. A dementia 161 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 2: tsunami is coming Australia is at the epicenter of this tsunami. 162 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: We have responsibility to lead and I felt quite compelled 163 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 2: that we can use our platforms our megaphone if you 164 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: like to really share an awareness campaign around dementia. 165 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 3: It's not all doom and gloom. There is hope. 166 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 2: But I think what's really important is the word prevention, 167 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 2: and all of our neuroscientists and researchers tell us this 168 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 2: that prevention it can actually prevent or delay dementia. We 169 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: know from the Lancet Report that there are fourteen modifiable 170 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 2: behaviors that can potentially prevent or delay dementia, and a 171 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: lot of them are often linked to your heart health 172 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: or other things. And when you go to your GP 173 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 2: and you are worried about your cancer risk or your 174 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: heart health, that you smoke, or you drink too much, 175 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: or you're not exercising, often those conversations will lead into 176 00:10:58,440 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: diabetes or. 177 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 3: Cholesterol or heart or stroke. 178 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 2: Rarely do they lead into conversation around dementia or indeed 179 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: brain health. And I think this campaign will absolutely support 180 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 2: those living with dementia, support those who are caring for 181 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 2: a loved one with dementia, but also encourage Australians from 182 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: forty plus to go to their GP and have that 183 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: conversation around brain health. 184 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: The latest data available suggests one million Australians will be 185 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: diagnosed with dementia by twenty sixty five. Advocates are calling 186 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: for decisive action by state and federal governments to ensure 187 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: our healthcare system is prepared to support people living with 188 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: dementia as well as their loved ones. 189 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 2: Like Luise, our health system views dementia as an age 190 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 2: care problem. It's after sixty five years old that's when 191 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 2: those dementia supports kick in. We didn't have any support 192 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 2: when Moose was diagnosed he was forty six years old, 193 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 2: and now Moose's current at Prince of Wales and receiving 194 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 2: excellent care from the incredible medical staff there. However, it's 195 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: not an easy straight line. 196 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,119 Speaker 1: Louise Bryant is the managing editor of News Corp Australia's 197 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: Prestige Titles. You can read stories and watch videos about 198 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: lived experiences with dementia at Think Again dementia dot com 199 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: dot au. Plus, you can play brain games designed to 200 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: strengthen your brain health and join our subscribers anytime at 201 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: the Australian dot com, dot au