1 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: From The Australian. I'm Claire Harvey. We've loved bringing you 2 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: insights from our journals around the nation and the world 3 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: this year. Over this holiday break, we're revisiting some of 4 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: our biggest and best episodes from a huge year in 5 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: the news. This episode originally aired on August twelve, when 6 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: her Olympic performance propelled Australian breaker Rachel gunn Aka regum 7 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: to global infamy, and when another Olympic legend leapt to 8 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: her defense, the blame game began. The Front will return 9 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: with all new episodes on Monday, January thirteen. Just hit 10 00:00:53,200 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: follow or subscribe to hear the latest every morning. Every 11 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: Olympic Games turns up a folk hero. We've had Eddie 12 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: b Eagle, the British ski jumper who in nineteen eighty 13 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: eight finished a resounding last but became a crowd sensation. 14 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: Or Eddie the Eel, who in two thousand Sydney Games 15 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: swam the slowest one hundred meters freestyle in Olympic history, 16 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: one of his first dips in a fifty meter pool 17 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: to a roaring standing ovation. Well, I thought I'd seen 18 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: everything in the Olympics. 19 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: Rooming poor. 20 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: Speed skater Stephen Bradbury, who I would defend as a 21 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: master tactician art who Australians embraced for the pure dumb 22 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: luck of winning a race after everybody else fell over. 23 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: Bradbury way off the pace and Lee is now the 24 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: challenger for owner Lee coming up on the outside when 25 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: Lee has gone down and Bradbury was in a perfect 26 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: spot states over the line. Australia's first ever Winter Olympics 27 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 2: called Metal. Steven Bradbury is the. 28 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: Champion and now there's Raygun. The thirty six year old 29 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:33,399 Speaker 1: university lecturer with a PhD in breakdancing culture was Australia's 30 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: sole female team member in what the Olympics are calling 31 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: breaking a new sport in the twenty twenty four Games. 32 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: Very unlikely to reappear in future. 33 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 3: Where you going to represent her country. 34 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: Raygun was terrible, terrible in the way you or I 35 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: would be terrible at breakdancing or pole vaulting or gymnastic 36 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: ribbon dancing or judo or weightlifting. That is, we would 37 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: be normal, normal levels of coordination, normal levels of skill, 38 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that, but does normal belong at the 39 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: highest levels of athletic excellence to be televised live to 40 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: an audience of billions. I chatted to our sports writer 41 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: Will Swanton and I've got to warn you we got 42 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: a serious case of the giggles during this interview. Will 43 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: Swanton is a sports writer with The Australian. Will you 44 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: were at the Place de la Concord when Reagun made 45 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: her international debut. Tell me what you thought when you 46 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: saw her come on to the stage. 47 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 3: Oh, just that name rey Gun. 48 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 4: Now, I've never heard of Raygun, like I actually not 49 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 4: being the world's most experienced. 50 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: Breaking reporter, Not exactly. 51 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 4: No, And I actually said some of mate sitting next 52 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 4: to me, what time is gun? Ray On? 53 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 3: Not done? Raids brain? Gun? 54 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 4: So sitting there and they introduced the sixteen b girls 55 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 4: as they're called, and they don't like being called athletes. 56 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 4: Apparently they're all be girls in breaking and they're all 57 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 4: wearing the Americans and the French and the Japanese. They're 58 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 4: wearing their funky hip hop clothes. And then Ygun comes 59 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 4: out in the Australian team track suit. All right, And 60 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 4: that was the first time I thought, what's going on here? 61 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 3: What's this? 62 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 4: The first thing I thought was Alissa Heeley and the 63 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 4: women's one Day cricket team just like it looks like 64 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 4: the cricket in the four the or Sydney, all kind 65 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 4: of thing. 66 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 3: That's all right. 67 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 4: And I literally thought she was going to get changed 68 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 4: before she paid me up to compete. 69 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 3: She was just in her trackings. 70 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 4: So they have one on one battles as they call it, 71 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 4: which is basically just a dance on like Zoolander. And 72 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 4: so she came out and she was you couldn't say 73 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 4: she was breaking like the rest of them. 74 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: First came the judge's verdict with zero. Then came the 75 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: social media verdict. I'm trying to see They said somebody 76 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: Mama hopped out the soccer fan and came to the 77 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: stage and we're what is going on here? 78 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 4: So mad you from Australia and you've done lied on 79 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 4: your Olympics application and said that you know how to 80 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 4: break dance. 81 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: Funny rabbit kank of one of those two. I got moved. 82 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 3: So what you're gonna do? 83 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 4: I'm a worm a feeling that maybe we're not taking 84 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 4: the break dancing very seriously. 85 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 3: She did a thing, though she did. 86 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 5: Mama turned up her moves. 87 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: This I say, I love her originality though. 88 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure, I love ebit of this stuff 89 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: you ain't seen, but. 90 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 3: At all. 91 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: Did you think at any point is this a spoof 92 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: or is this a joke? Or did you know from 93 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: the very beginning that actually this we were saying someone 94 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: who was just not of the same athletic standard as 95 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: the other competitors. 96 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 4: So she qualified through the Oceania Championships. She's the reigning 97 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 4: Oceania champion of breaking, so she earned her spot, and 98 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 4: so there's a tournament and the winner got to go 99 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 4: to the Olympics. And I'm fascinated. I can't see any 100 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 4: footage anywhere her in that final, Like I didn't think 101 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 4: it was a spoof, and I didn't think I just 102 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 4: thought that she I mean, it's funny, we're all trying 103 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 4: to find polite ways of putting it, but she just 104 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 4: wasn't up to that standard, like remotely up to that standard. 105 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: After the event, but before it all went sour on 106 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: social media, Rachel Gunn came out to speak to the journos. 107 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 4: Just a lovely woman and she was thrilled with being 108 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 4: part of the Olympics and I just wanted to do 109 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 4: it my way and it's been such an honor and 110 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 4: what a treat and Breaking might never be here again. 111 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 4: Then it's just all been so much fun, and we're 112 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 4: looking at her thinking, oh my gosh, she's got no 113 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 4: idea yet of what's happening on social media. I think 114 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 4: it was a bad It was probably a bad look 115 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 4: for the Olympics. I don't mean just her performance. I 116 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 4: just think Breaking didn't suit the Olympics. It didn't fit 117 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 4: the Olympics. 118 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 5: I love Rachel and I think that what has occurred 119 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 5: on social media with trolls and keyboard warriors and taking 120 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 5: those comments and giving them airtime has been really disappointing. 121 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: Adamir Is, the boss of the Olympic team, complained publicly 122 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: that trolls were being unkind to Raygun. 123 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 5: She is the best breakdancer female that we have for Australia. 124 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 5: She has represented the Olympic team the Olympic spirit with 125 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 5: great enthusiasm and I absolutely love her courage, I love 126 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 5: her character and I feel very disappointed for her that 127 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 5: she has come under the attack that she has. 128 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,239 Speaker 1: And I think we could probably agree that some people 129 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: have been unkind to her, but will doesn't be AOC 130 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: and enemies have to take some responsibility for putting Rachel 131 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: Gunn in a position where she was going to be 132 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: humiliated internationally. Don't bear some responsibility for that. 133 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 4: I'm sure Rachel is probably shattered. She was trying to 134 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 4: give everyone a bit of jo quity. But there's also 135 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 4: from Rachel's point of view, if you're for any athlete, 136 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 4: if you're willing to step up into something as big 137 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 4: as the Olympics, there's the chance that you could be 138 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 4: praised from the rooftops as some kind of sporting hero, 139 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 4: which everyone's happen to. But for any professional sport or 140 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 4: once you step out there, you're up for praise, to 141 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 4: be mocked, ridicule, criticized, told how great you are, told 142 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 4: that you work great. So that's all part and parcel 143 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 4: of us. There is definitely a part of it where 144 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 4: if the AOC sends an athlete out there, there has 145 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 4: to be some recognition of this is Olympic competition. It 146 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 4: has to be taken seriously. But I think they do 147 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 4: have to accept that once you be come an Olympic 148 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 4: athlete and you're in what was a high profile event, 149 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 4: you're up to be judged. 150 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: Coming up. It was an otherwise stunning games for Australia, 151 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: so how did we do so well? In a fortnight, 152 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: It'll be the Paralympics where everyone has an incredible backstory. 153 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: We'll have all the action twenty four to seven at 154 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: the Australian dot com dot au for our subscribers. We'll 155 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: be back after this break. Olympic Games usually follow a 156 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: pattern for Australia. We start very strong in the pool 157 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: with gold medals and advance Australia fair coming from all directions. 158 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: We all love Week one, but in the Olympiads of 159 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: recent memory, Weeks two and three are a little less 160 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: spine tingling As we watch ken You win the marathon, 161 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: Sweden win the high jump and China win everything else. 162 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: By the closing ceremony, Australians are cheerfully celebrating a sixteenth 163 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: place in the sports win know when not very good 164 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: at Paris has been different. The golds have kept coming 165 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: in sports we don't normally prosper in road, cycling, skateboarding, BMX. 166 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: This Olympics Australia has done incredibly well, mind blowing well. 167 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: So what's changed that's incredible? 168 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 4: I think one thing that has happened a lot of 169 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 4: other countries have become stronger and they started taking medals 170 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 4: off the powerhouses as well, and the swimming it gets 171 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 4: and it's not all America winning the swimming. Well, my 172 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 4: impression is across all the sports, a lot more nations 173 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 4: are winning medals, which are taking some off Great Britain 174 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 4: and taking some of France and taking some off Japan. 175 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 4: So the top two America and China and miles ahead, 176 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 4: and then the rest of the top ten is a 177 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 4: bit of a bunch. Then we're just snuck through. But 178 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,599 Speaker 4: like the men's doubles tennis at Roland Garos, it was 179 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 4: a clocks set, but they were John Piers and Matt Ebden, 180 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 4: a couple of thirty six year olds who live on 181 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 4: the same street in Perth. Wives are best friends, kids 182 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 4: play together, all that kind of stuff. Unseated doubles players 183 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 4: in a field that had Rafa and Adal and Alcahaz 184 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 4: playing together and all that kind of thing, and that 185 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 4: was just the unlikeliest gold medal. It's lucky for Australia 186 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 4: that the swimming is the first week because it's everyone 187 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 4: on Ohio from night one. So Arion one gold that 188 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 4: first night, and the women's relay one gold that first night, 189 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 4: so Australia's got two gold medals the first night, it's 190 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 4: all celebratory. Back at the village where was I think 191 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 4: if swimming was weak too, if we had the ass 192 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 4: the first week would be down and it wouldn't have 193 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 4: that same But I think they all fed each other 194 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 4: off a bit. 195 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 3: The impression I get is that they just had a ball. 196 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 4: They're in Paris, the whole backdrop is one of the 197 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 4: great cities in the world. 198 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 3: They've done incredibly well. 199 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 4: I think Anime is even in the way I think 200 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 4: she was a bit off the mark with defending Raygan, 201 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 4: because like some form of comment was always going to 202 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 4: happen once they sent her out there. But I think 203 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 4: in a way that was also an example of Anna 204 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 4: just airs deeply about all these athletes, and I'm sure 205 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 4: the way she is around the village just constantly encouraging them. 206 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 4: She's done great things as an Olympian, so they've got 207 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 4: someone there who's actually done it, who's spurring them on. 208 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 4: The impression I get is that she's whipped up this 209 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 4: fantastic team and spirit. I think that's been part of it. 210 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 4: But they should be incredibly proud of themselves. 211 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: You can read all the nation's best news, sport, politics 212 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: and business anytime at the Australian dot com dot au