WEBVTT - Blues High Drama as Madge Sends SOS 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:11.119 Hello, I'm welcome the Daily Telegraph and a podcast on 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:14.080 bent Re joined by Pem Wiley. Forgot my name? Then 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:16.280 the team we could do. It's Origin week. It's an 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:20.880 exciting time. Interstate rivalry is alive and well, how are 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:24.800 you feeling? You're both in yourselves Welsh people, so you'd 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:27.760 be quite nervous, i'd imagine nervous about what about losing? 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:31.440 Obviously, why would we lose? I think there's a I 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:37.199 think there's a freshness about this new South Wales Blues team, 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:40.080 and I know there was a bit of conjecture about 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:42.400 you know, obviously we'll go through the Teddy Edwards stuff, 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:44.199 but the makeup of the bench and the rest of it. 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:48.000 But I like what matches put together and we get 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:51.120 Teddy backs, so you know, even after losing, Dylan Edwards, 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:57.960 arguably the best fullback of his generation comes in. So 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:01.280 I don't know, there's not no reason to be about you. 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:05.720 Yeah, no, no, no, no, I look nervous. No no, no, no, 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:08.360 I'm all good. No. After spending a little bit of 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:15.280 time in camp with the Blues over the weekend, I did, yeah, 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:20.119 cold freezing, but it was like where they were staying 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:23.720 was beautiful. It was. They just kind of had no distractions, 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:28.760 No one was really bothering them. They were just the 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:31.320 way he likes it. So it was, yeah, it was great. 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:34.440 They were Yeah, they just looked nice and relaxed and 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:35.920 really got to bond together. 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:41.760 Don't This is about the time that all these illnesses 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:43.959 and injury scared. 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:46.400 Or something. 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:50.280 That was nice and earlier. 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:52.240 That that shows you how confidence Billy is because we 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:56.680 haven't had any late injury scares or frightening moments. But 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:59.600 the News of the week spent obviously James, Dylan Edwards 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:03.880 James to Desco Sagi. Obviously Teddy. I think he played 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:06.320 twenty two Origin games in a row something, captain of 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:10.400 this news, Captain of Australia Madge drops him last week 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:12.959 and then he comes Dlan Edwards and then sadly for 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:15.160 Dylan he gets ruled out with the quote problem. So 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:18.880 Teddy was the obvious guy to bring in, right, But 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.280 devastated for Dylan Edwards because he's been knocking on the 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:24.760 door for three four years now. In form fullback argument 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:28.120 in the camp, well reswols Calen I suppose. 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:33.320 Three time premiership winner, So yeah, I mean it was 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:35.680 tough for him though, absolutely tough for him, you know, 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:39.680 and for somebody who has been as successful in clubland 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:43.640 as Dylan Edwards. If it wasn't for Teddy, he'd be 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:46.760 the first picked in that number one jumper. Oh, I 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:49.800 don't know, maybe Tommy tom oh. Yeah, But I just 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:52.720 feel like for origin, like I always when you watched 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:55.359 him in Edwards play and the effort he puts in 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:58.360 and just his support play. He's also I mean, it 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:00.560 doesn't really matter now because neither of them are playing, 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.760 but I felt in the past that while Nathan Cleary 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:05.520 was there, if they had Dylan Edwards at the back, 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:08.880 that would really unlock Nathan Cleary our origin level. But anyway, 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:10.480 so yeah, I mean unfortunate. And he's one of the 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:14.119 nicest guys you'll ever meet. So he gets his opportunity 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:17.079 in such controversial circumstances and he would have hated that, 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:19.280 right because he doesn't love doing media. You know, that 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:21.520 first day he comes into camp, everyone's in his face, 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:23.600 it's a bit full on, and he just you know, 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:25.640 he took it in his stride and he said all 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:28.919 the right things about coming in, you know, over Teddy. 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:32.480 But these things happen, right, and just the timing of 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:35.400 it is. You know, they're saying it's not that serious, 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:37.560 but it's just the kind of injury that you can't 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:39.880 risk taking into origin because if you lose him in 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:42.040 the fight in the first five or ten minutes and you've 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:42.640 got problems. 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:45.600 Yeah, you've been around the camp. You were there when 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:48.120 Dylan was well, when he was in camp, and then 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:52.280 obviously out What did you make of what happened over 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:52.760 the weekend. 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:55.280 It was a really weird one because on that the 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:57.160 training session on Saturday, so it was their first a 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:00.640 posted session of the week and it was against you know, Panthers, 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:04.800 SG ball players and just you know, random players throughout 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:09.160 their pathway system. And everyone was looking at Nico. How's Nico? 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:10.600 And you know, how's he going to go with? 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:12.960 Get thrown out of the session? 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:18.159 Watch the whole thing thrown out? Yeah, yeah, the days 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:20.719 are gone. No, So you watch the warm up, so 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:25.039 everyone's you know, looking at Nico. You know, how does 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:27.200 he look. He looks like he's running pretty good. So 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:29.960 I felt, you know, pretty confident after that Nico is 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:34.720 going to be fine. And then yeah, we write all 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:38.240 our stories, we get thrown out, then we go to 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:41.640 a cafe, we write all our stories and then maybe 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:44.120 half an hour later we get the call about Dylan 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:49.360 Edwards and so yeah, it was just a very crazy 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:53.200 couple of hours there. But yeah, it's just, yeah, you 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:55.680 feel really sad for him because this was his chance. 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.680 He's waited so long for it, and now the question 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:03.080 kind of comes you know, what happens if Teddy kills it. 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:05.320 It's funny back in the good old those we stayed 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:07.960 for the entire well, this is the first year year 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:11.159 we haven't stay the entire training session and you would 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:14.280 have seen all this unfolded year ago, would have we 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:18.960 would have the cat phones that last. 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:20.520 Sort of lived off. So in the past, you know, 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:22.640 they would make us turn our cameras off after that 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:25.440 first sort of allowed period. But name one was kicking 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:27.119 you off watching. 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:31.040 Yeah yeah, but now even at New Southwald Center of Excellence, 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:33.520 now have you seen all the fences. They've blacked it 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:35.719 all out, so all the fences have got all of 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:37.719 so when you're standing on the field on the inside, 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:39.960 it's all pictures of you know, New South Wales origin 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:42.240 moments and things like that. From the outside, you can't 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:43.080 see in and. 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:43.880 It's just a peak. 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:45.120 Yeah, is it really? 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:49.760 Imagine just when was the twenty fourteen Grand finally did 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:54.000 that to the redfern oval the fences, So yeah, it's yeah, 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:55.920 it's definitely a bit of a change with how much 0:05:55.960 --> 0:06:00.839 access we have, for sure, but yeah for drama still. 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:01.719 He raise a good point. If Teddy comes in and 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:04.599 brains it, just say new Sowell's win. Teddy comes in, 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:07.120 wins me on the match? What's he do? 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:10.320 Well? He keeps him, keeps him, of course, he keeps him. 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:15.560 I mean the thing with Tedesco is he's never let 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:18.640 anybody down every time he's been in a Blues Jersey. 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:21.440 And there's a very good chance he comes out and 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:24.240 he is the best player for the Blues on Wednesday Night. 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:27.839 Now he's done it before. He thrives in in that arena, 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:32.000 and if the Blues win with him full back, then yeah, 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:33.720 you know. I mean they're saying Dylan Edwards might be 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:35.440 out for one or two weeks, but even then, by 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:37.880 the time they announced the next team, he probably hasn't 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:40.719 played any football, so they potentially take him in again 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:44.680 without knowing you know, there'll be an injury cloud over him. 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:47.280 But yeah, I mean, what who would you would you not? 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:48.840 Would you bring Edwards back? 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:50.360 Or what do you reckon? 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:53.279 I don't know. It's it's a tough one, isn't it 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:53.560 like it? 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:58.440 I think to be honest, I think if I think 0:06:58.480 --> 0:06:59.839 you've made the decision. 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:04.679 Kindly in that way too. But then that's also God, 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:06.360 that's a huge call though, isn't it a. 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:10.160 Massive cool, massive cool and huge call on Teddy if 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:12.200 he comes back wins Man in the match they play 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:15.720 out of the skin. The old adage is you don't 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:18.360 change a winning team. But I think you've gone down 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:21.880 that path. Yeah, how you Jakeie? You feel. 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:30.280 Yes today? So like, what can you imagine that phone 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:33.000 callould have been like between Jake and Teddy When Jake 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:36.520 called Teddy to say I'm captain? 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:37.800 Ye can? 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:40.800 That would be I wonder if I had he. 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:41.840 Would have apologized. 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:44.840 Jake is so nice that when Teddy came back into camp, 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:46.440 he probably would have called him and man and said 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:48.360 you can be captain if you can have it back 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:50.600 if you are likes He's That kind of would have 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:53.200 been an awkward moment phone. But again, Jake is another 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:55.360 one who's absolutely the right to be able to be 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:58.800 in New South Wales, captain. So yeah, it's it's awkward around. 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:02.720 It was interesting. Brad Fieldler mentioned that he thought that 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:06.200 the initial conversation phone call when Madge picked up the 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:09.160 call to the phone to Teddy to say we need you, 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.680 you're back in, would have been you know, the way 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:13.760 he said it was not so warm and a few 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:18.720 little words said so you know, but I don't I 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:20.760 don't think Teddy is the kind of guy who was 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:23.920 he will go into camp kind of holding a grudge with. 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:28.000 You that you got Yeah, and did not get an 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:30.640 air of that whatsoever. He just seemed so happy to 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:32.760 be there and he was, you know, laughing, and he 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:34.640 was in a really good mood and he seemed calm, 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:35.800 And there's got. 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:37.640 To be a bit of him that those goes in 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:38.640 with the point to prove. 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:42.839 It has to be what more could of course. 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:46.040 Because they want to me and they get to where 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:49.240 they are in the game because they're great competitors, great 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:52.760 self belief and you know when a bloke like that 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:54.880 gets dropped like that, and so he gets a late 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:57.960 call up, I'm sure he's thinking himself, well, I'm going 0:08:58.040 --> 0:08:59.000 to show you you got it wrong. 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:02.600 Yeah, were on Gordy when he said. 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:04.400 I wasn't on when he said it, but. 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.480 So Gordy said. He said that there would be an 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:11.000 air of embarrassment about. 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:16.920 Being good and tell Us is a great queen, the 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:20.480 other queen a little bit. I don't think. I don't 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:22.520 think there would be with James. I think, as I said, 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:24.320 I think James goes in there with a point to prove, 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:26.480 and it's probably I don't think he'd be embarrassed. I 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.880 think he'd be determined to and I from queens and 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:32.200 I'm really wary of him. The issue might be and 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:37.080 one of the criticisms of Teddy in origins is that 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:39.480 maybe overplaced his hand and tries to get his hand 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:43.199 the ball too much, tries to and and maybe take 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:45.160 some of the possession away from the heart, the control 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:48.880 away from the harves. I wonder whether Teddy's got to 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:50.439 be on guard that he doesn't try to do too 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:54.319 much and doesn't doesn't affect, you know, Jerome Lei and 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:56.800 Niko Hines' ability to run the team and play the 0:09:56.840 --> 0:10:00.959 way they want to play. It's intriguing through to come 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:04.280 dis late how significant I mean, I'd imagine my name. 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.320 You've set the way you're going to play right and 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:09.640 then on a Sunday three before the game, your fallback changes. 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:12.079 Now there's sort of similar footballers. Well they want to 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:15.920 be around the ball lot, but there's subtle changes you'd 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:17.680 have to make. It doesn't even have much time to 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:19.320 make them because they've done most of the hard work 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:19.800 by now. 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:24.040 Yeah, well they do have one big session today before obviously, 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:26.640 like Captain's run, so any of those tweaks will have 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:29.280 to be made today. But I find it hard to 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:31.160 believe that Madge is going to throw out the playbook 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:34.000 because Teddy's in there, and Teddy's been around long enough, 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:36.880 he's experienced enough he'll know, and he's played with the 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:42.880 why before. So yeah, I think whatever game plan that 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:44.600 Madge had to begin with, obviously, because it was a 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:48.280 game plan that didn't necessarily include the way that Teddy 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:49.839 likes to play our agent, you know what I mean? 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:53.000 Like you said, maybe you know has too many possessions. 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:55.040 But part of that too, when you think back on it, 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:58.560 is you know, as great as Nathan Cleary is, and 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:01.520 Nathan Cleary hit himself has admitted that he hasn't necessarily 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:03.880 taken origin by the scruff of the neck. So a 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:06.360 lot of him, maybe overplaying his hand, has been in 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:09.520 the fact that they've struggled to find a dominant half 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:12.400 in origin. So yeah, look, I don't know. I don't 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:14.600 I don't think Teddy will have a point to prove, 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:16.760 but I don't know. I also don't think Teddy's the 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:18.120 kind of player who's going to go out there and 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:20.200 want to make Wednesday Night about him. 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:24.319 He might need to kind of We've got an untested 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:27.920 halves combination though there too, so he also has the 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:31.800 ability then to take the game if he needs to. 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:32.240 Yep. 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:35.640 Yeah, not about the Mighty Morons. We've had a I 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:38.640 shouldn't say we were in past slant. His journalis the 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:42.120 Queens and has had a very smooth preparation. Only concerned 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:46.480 was Harry had Harry Green had a little little food scare. Yeah, 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:48.960 but he's okay. I saw him interview the other day, Harry. 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:52.600 So it's been really relatively calm in Queens. And then 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:56.240 their favorites to the Marones apparently, although everyone knows the Queens 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:57.360 and they are always the underdogs. 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.120 I was going to say, according to who favor is 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:05.560 the underdogs? Yeah, I mean I think I guess it 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:10.199 speaks to the fact that how much they are the 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:13.840 favorites in that they lost somebody like cam Munster. But 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:16.680 it hasn't been like the main talking point, like nobody's 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.000 been banging on about oh my god, but he's a 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:21.040 massive loss for them, you know, like when you think 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:23.839 about players made for Origin on the on the flip 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:27.040 side of things, just his unpredictability, h the X factor, 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:29.520 the way that he's a game breaker, Like they lose 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:31.800 that from from camp Munster, because cam Munster is the 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:34.439 kind of guy who can when you need something at 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.040 the death, he can come up with it. And I 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:39.840 don't think but maybe that's just you know how Billy 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:42.199 satter is. Cam Munster's not there, so they just move 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:44.839 on with tom Didon and and hopeful the best. 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:47.200 Well, it would say Tommy's one game he's played of Origin, 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:51.079 he was absolutely oba and Cam hasn't been Like Cam 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:53.960 has obviously carried cam Munster's obviously carried that growing problem 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:55.880 or hit problem most of the year, and I reckon 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:58.600 it's he hasn't been the same player this year. 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:02.559 But think Origin is the kind of arena that he throws, well. 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:04.920 That's where he's been brilliant, original level but I think 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:07.480 Tommy didn't Shiney can handle it, do a good job 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:10.319 there and obviously got a lot of weapons with It's 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:13.160 a great spy. And Reecee Walsh, Harry Grant, you know, 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:15.439 Daily's obviously been a steady hand for long time. In 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:17.640 Original Daily's form has been a bit down as well. 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:21.040 I reckon this year, the game before Origin, he was better, 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:23.720 but his form the month before that I thought was 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:25.079 he was a bit shaky. 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:28.440 Yeah, well the Cowboys haven't been They've been very, very 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:31.920 patchy the Cowboys all years. So it's it's not like, 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:34.520 you know, the Queens Anders go in there with a 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:36.040 harp's combination that have been killing. 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:38.480 So you're basically confirming that Queens that should be underdogs. 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:39.199 Is that what you're saying? 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:47.080 Well, the Blues would win, So yeah, to me, they 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:47.720 are the favorite. 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:52.600 Tom I mean, sorry, Tommy didn't do you expect? What 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:54.800 do you expect from him? As I said, he's played 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.440 Origin before and been I think from memory I called 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:02.240 him he was out ending in that game. But the 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:03.959 Cowboys haven't been great this year. But he's one of 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:06.560 those guys you just always he's always trying. 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:08.840 Yeah, I think so too, And he just seems kind 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:12.640 of unflappable, just calm, just gets his job done. I 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:15.199 think that's kind of all he'll need to do. All 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:16.720 they need to do is just get the ball out 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:18.120 of resource. 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:24.920 Right, we should touch Ony boy because he's probably the 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:27.560 great threat for Queens and he's such a good player 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:32.920 and he's an excitement machine and they love him, do 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:37.240 you what's his speed? Is his speeds and and adds 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.000 another dimension of the Queens in game. And he gets 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:41.760 his ball out, the ball out the back and puts 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.360 his sallerated down. That's that's going to put the fear 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:47.200 of God. And you said, I imagine is it? Yeah? 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:50.600 I don't think Magic's got a planet he's borrowing from 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:52.960 de has not. And so I know the weekend about 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:56.280 how has has figured out how to shut down resworts 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:59.360 and it's just pretty much have you know, the outside 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:04.240 backs just on him like a rash. So, yeah, he is. 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:07.000 He's probably when you think about when you think about 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:09.040 the team that the Blues have named, I don't know 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:12.880 whether we have the same sort of X factor player 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:16.960 in Ris Walsh on the Blue side. So yeah, he's 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:20.040 probably going to be the one that you want to 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:20.640 shut down. 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:23.080 The most sel and Gobbo also to an extent as well, 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:28.600 because if they bring him on, you know late, they're 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:31.440 going to play. And that's just that is the thing 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:33.080 that that's the thing that scares me is that we 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:36.640 don't have we when new weals don't kind of have that, 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:39.400 you know, when the game is really getting into the 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.920 trenches towards the back end, someone with a bit of energy, 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:46.160 it's going to has to come from those starting you 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:47.720 know thirty in that back line. 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:50.720 Yeah, that's probably another reason Madge couldn't really afford to 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:53.360 take a risk on Dylan Edwards because your bench, they 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:54.920 have no backs on the bench, and I think they're 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:58.120 covered for the outside backs as Hudson Young who's played, 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:01.920 who's trained to send send in camera on occasions. 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.000 But yeh a memory. 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:07.160 He might have shifted out there during a game every 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:09.120 every now and then when they've had like injuries or 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:09.560 something like that. 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:14.640 But yeah, but Cobbo is really intriguing the way they 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:16.720 use him because there's a chance maybe he doesn't get 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:19.200 in the field, so on Cobo during this game, but 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.520 if he gets on the field, I imagine at some 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:23.320 point maybe he plays in the middle of the field 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:25.280 because Queens have had done that over the years. Kalan's 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:29.480 played there, Cooper played there, Benny Hunt's played there. Is 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:31.880 sort of a middle, sort of a lock, almost a 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.320 roaming go in the middle of the field. And I reckon, 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:37.480 someone's a big dude, right, I mean, and he's and 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.200 you can imagine latent games they bring on So and 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:43.479 Cobo to the middle of the field. Could be unbelievable, 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.800 could be a disaster. 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:51.840 Player. However, it could be knowing Yeah, I was just 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:54.040 gonna say, knowing so on Cobbo, it's probably leaning on 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:54.960 the war genius side. 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:59.240 And Billy is obviously a tactical, tactically very smart Billy. 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:01.240 You know they talk about back in Melbourne back in 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:03.040 the day he come up with all his trick plays 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:05.840 and when he was playing Billy, so he knows how 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:10.840 to I'd imagine he'd know how in his mind, he'd 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:13.520 know how he's going to use sew one in that role, 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:17.399 and he could come up with some really different ways. 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:17.800 I reckon. 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:20.880 Just the sight of Billy Slater in like a Maroon's 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:23.879 jersey in the colors or something just sends chills up 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:28.480 your spiders. And man, do you agree, just yeah, later, 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:31.560 just having him anywhere near Origin is scary. 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:33.520 Now what about the Women's Origin to sell. 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:35.280 Out, to sell out, how good is that? 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:37.879 Yeah? That first game was a good game, bad result, 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:38.400 good game? 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:41.800 Yeah, well what was a great result? And then the Yeah, 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:43.639 so it's another it's a home game here for New 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:46.640 South Wales girls. But yeah, just to have a sellout 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:49.480 in Newcastle, we obviously know what kind of a community 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:51.960 they have up there. They love their rugby league. So 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:56.360 sold out. Yeah, a week or so out from the game. Incredible, 0:17:56.400 --> 0:18:00.240 sud be over thirty thousand people there and this again 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:03.199 will be another records. It will be another world record 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:07.879 for a standalone women's rugby league match. So just they 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:09.080 just smashing records. 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:09.199 Ye. 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:13.160 Yeah, the ratings were amazing at a game, so there's 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:15.600 definitely it was it was the right move to get 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:17.760 to a to get to a series, rather than you know, 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:21.560 just have the two games. And absolutely yeah, if I 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:23.720 remember correctly, I'm just going to go out here a 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:27.480 little bit. When we previewed the first Women's Origin, both 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:29.040 of you doubt that the Blues kid done? 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:32.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't remember that far back. 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:37.080 No, I mean I'll absolutely put my hand up. I 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:40.480 thought the fact that they hadn't played any Woodie or 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:43.480 they didn't have a club kind of or state competition 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:46.240 going into it was going to be a bit underne 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:48.520 it was, but it turns out they well they had 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:51.280 the seven week camp and they just looked so fit 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:57.040 and really connected as a team. So yeah, yeah, I 0:18:57.119 --> 0:18:57.960 definitely got that wrong. 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:00.480 Are you expecting it to be over? Then? After after 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:03.119 Thursday night? Right Thursday? That game, Yeah, serious to be 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:05.280 over because New said win. 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:08.800 Yeah, well, Queen's only going to have to pull something out. 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:13.280 They've made a few changes, so they've dropped Zahara Tamara 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:15.280 so she was in the halves in game one, and 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:17.400 then so Ali brigging Sure is back at half back, 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:19.760 so she was at lock. So they've made a few 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:24.360 little changes there. But they're gonna I mean, they're Queensland, right, 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:26.840 so they backs against the wall kind of stuff, you know, 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:31.440 the mentality. Yeah, so you can never really count them out. 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:34.959 But yeah, they did need a drastic improvement. 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:38.840 Yeah, I think the biggest The biggest thing I noticed 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:40.879 because I was up there for Magic Ground and covered 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:43.879