Speaker 1: Late Welcome Lait Debate.
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us on the Late Debate. I'm James
Speaker 2: Macpherson with Liz Storer and Caleb Bond coming up. We've
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Speaker 3: It's a real thing. We'll talk about that a little later.
Speaker 2: Plus, when we look at the papers, there's a good
Speaker 2: news story tomorrow, council's band from issuing ticketless parking fines,
Speaker 2: and outrage that government funding has gone towards hate speech groups.
Speaker 3: All of that.
Speaker 2: When we look at the papers, you know, Democrats describe
Speaker 2: him as a threat to democracy, a madman who will
Speaker 2: plunge America into a dystopian nightmare. The media say he's
Speaker 2: a cross between I don't know, Mussolini and Hitler, only worse.
Speaker 2: The Secret Service say he's not the sitting president, so
Speaker 2: he doesn't get a full security detail.
Speaker 3: And so nine.
Speaker 2: Weeks after Thomas Crook's fired of shots at Donald Trump,
Speaker 2: one of which hit him in the ear, there's been
Speaker 2: a second.
Speaker 3: Attempt on his life.
Speaker 2: So that's two assassination attempts in just nine weeks. While
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris is dodging interviews Donald Trump, He's dodging bullets.
Speaker 2: And if you listen to MSNBC, well, it's all Donald
Speaker 2: Trump's fault.
Speaker 4: Do you expect to hear anything from the Trump campaign
Speaker 4: about toning down the rhetoric, toning down the.
Speaker 5: Violence, or would that be a typical of the former president?
Speaker 6: Well, Alex, remember back to the assassination attempt on President
Speaker 6: Trump's life and how you know, there was talk of
Speaker 6: a new tone, and then the Republican Convention was, by
Speaker 6: Trumpian standards, muted, and it did seem like he was,
Speaker 6: you know, just trying to take it down a few notches.
Speaker 6: But then by the end of his convention speech, you know,
Speaker 6: we were kind of back to where we started.
Speaker 2: You know, I remember when we used to joke that
Speaker 2: if Donald Trump cured cancer, he'd be criticized for putting
Speaker 2: oncologists out of work. These days, Donald Trump can't even
Speaker 2: get shot at without it being his fault, Caleb.
Speaker 1: And is insane?
Speaker 7: It will actually, no, it's not insane by American left standards.
Speaker 1: That's an entirely insane resers.
Speaker 7: Normal and it's exactly what we saw after as you say,
Speaker 7: he got shot in the ear in Pennsylvania. I remember
Speaker 7: on CNN one of the first things they were saying
Speaker 7: was that, you know, oh, he just he fell to
Speaker 7: the ground, you know, not that it was obvious that
Speaker 7: he'd been shot or anything. They wonder why things like
Speaker 7: this keep happening. If you try to blame the bloke
Speaker 7: who is being shot for being shot, you may have
Speaker 7: a small problem. It is exactly this kind of rhetoric
Speaker 7: that encourages people to go and do things like we
Speaker 7: saw today.
Speaker 1: Now this particular.
Speaker 7: Ryan Routh's ruth. Have you want to pronounce his name?
Speaker 7: Probably doesn't really matter at this point. He's clearly a
Speaker 7: nutter and he was found before he was actually able
Speaker 7: to do it any potential damage to Donald Trump, and
Speaker 7: thank God for that. But it raises the question how
Speaker 7: on earth, once again was someone able to get that
Speaker 7: close to the potential next president of the United States.
Speaker 7: Former President of the United States. Trump was at his
Speaker 7: golf course at to West Palm Beach in Florida. He
Speaker 7: was on the fifth hole. This bloke was stationed at
Speaker 7: the sixth hole. It was only because a member of
Speaker 7: the Secret Service saw the gun pointing out between some
Speaker 7: shrubs of offense and fired a shot at him that
Speaker 7: this bloke then ran off.
Speaker 1: That's exactly how brave he was.
Speaker 7: But how was the whole place not scoped out until
Speaker 7: he was one hole before he got there. Well, the
Speaker 7: local sheriff says, well, he's not the president, why would
Speaker 7: you expect there to be security.
Speaker 8: Well, you've got to understand. The golf course is surrounded
Speaker 8: by shrubbery, so when somebody gets into the shrubbery, they're
Speaker 8: pretty much out of saint And at this level that
Speaker 8: he is at right now, he's not the city president.
Speaker 8: If he was, we would have had higher a golf
Speaker 8: course around it. Well, because he's not, the security is
Speaker 8: limited to the areas that the Secret Service deems possible.
Speaker 8: So I would imagine that the next time becomes at
Speaker 8: a golf course, there'll probably be a little bit more
Speaker 8: people around the perimeter.
Speaker 1: Oh that's good. Next time there'll be a bit carese security.
Speaker 7: Maybe they would have thought after nine weeks ago, when
Speaker 7: he was shot at in Pennsylvania, perhaps now would be
Speaker 7: the time to happen.
Speaker 3: This was the next time.
Speaker 7: For heaven's sake, how far behind the eight ball can
Speaker 7: these people possibly be? And I sort of hadn't thought
Speaker 7: about this in depth since Pennsylvania, but when I heard
Speaker 7: this today, I started to have the thought that, particularly
Speaker 7: if he becomes president, I suspect he's not going to
Speaker 7: die of natural causes. He's going to die because someone
Speaker 7: kills him. If this is it got this close a
Speaker 7: second time round to him being shot at, I'm almost
Speaker 7: convinced that at some point Donald Trump is going to
Speaker 7: be struck more severely than he was in the year
Speaker 7: or or he's going to be killed.
Speaker 1: It is that bad. People are that mad in America
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 5: Yeah, And it begs the question, how did this guy
Speaker 5: do it? Much like the first attempt on Trump's life?
Speaker 5: How did he do it without inside knowledge? How did
Speaker 5: he do it without inside help? We now know that
Speaker 5: it was a last minute decision for Trump to go
Speaker 5: to the golf course that day, So it's not like
Speaker 5: this guy could have availed himself and just thought, oh, well,
Speaker 5: got the inside scoop Trump's going to be on the
Speaker 5: golf course.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 5: No, it was a last minute decision. Trump decided to
Speaker 5: take himself for around and this guy just happened to
Speaker 5: be at the right part of the golf course at
Speaker 5: the right time. Keep in mind, we're talking about a
Speaker 5: massive golf course, over two hundred acres of wide open spaces.
Speaker 5: Anyone who's been to a golf course knows is wide
Speaker 5: open planes except for the shrubs and trees over here,
Speaker 5: a bit of a waterway over there. What was this
Speaker 5: guy just running around the golf course, taking undercover in
Speaker 5: this bush, running to the next lot until you get
Speaker 5: within yards of the most assassinatable that's a word as
Speaker 5: of now men on the planet currently, How was this possible? Now,
Speaker 5: speaking to motive, we know now from this guy's background
Speaker 5: that he was a massive Ukraine enthusiast. Check Out this
Speaker 5: article will excerpt from an article from the New York
Speaker 5: Times written just last year, in which he was telling them,
Speaker 5: I'm trying to recruit people in Afghanistan who have fled
Speaker 5: the Taliban. I'm trying to recruit them and get them
Speaker 5: to come to Ukraine to fight. He even said we
Speaker 5: can probably purchase some passports through Pakistan since it's such
Speaker 5: a corrupt country. So what he was saying that he
Speaker 5: was doing wasn't even legal. Yet he was so passionate
Speaker 5: about this particular war he was willing to go to
Speaker 5: such ends. Check out this tweet of February twenty twenty two,
Speaker 5: he said, I Am willing to fly to Ukraine and
Speaker 5: die for its people, and every run around the globe
Speaker 5: should do the same.
Speaker 9: Calmon people.
Speaker 5: His social media is full of this kind of psychotic
Speaker 5: pro Ukraine messaging, and so it stands to reason this
Speaker 5: may well have been one of his big motivators.
Speaker 9: Obviously, this is just speculation at this.
Speaker 5: Point in taking Trump out, because Trump has said repeatedly
Speaker 5: if I'm elected, I won't even wait until my inauguration.
Speaker 9: This war will be over.
Speaker 5: So anyone who wants to keep this war going is
Speaker 5: going to one to take him out.
Speaker 7: Well that this goes to the point around the rhetoric, right,
Speaker 7: So he previously he's a registered Democrat. By the way,
Speaker 7: this bloke he's previously tweeted his mild support for Trump
Speaker 7: that then started moving in recent years. In one tweet,
Speaker 7: he says, tweeting to the President, your campaign should be
Speaker 7: called something likedaf keep America democratic and free. Trump should BEMSA,
Speaker 7: make Americans slaves again, master democracies on the ballot, and
Speaker 7: we cannot lose. We cannot afford to fail. The world
Speaker 7: is counting on us to show the way. And we
Speaker 7: know that some people have tried to whip up this
Speaker 7: idea that Trump is somehow in Putin's pocket, that Trump
Speaker 7: tried to encourage Putin to invade Ukraine.
Speaker 1: We know that's not true.
Speaker 7: Trump has said his first order of business would be
Speaker 7: to end the war. He's made no secret about that.
Speaker 7: But the inflammatory rhetoric not from the Republicans, as the
Speaker 7: left keep trying to say, the inflammatory rhetoric by the
Speaker 7: left against Donald Trump. In cases like this, you'd have
Speaker 7: to ask the question, would that encourage someone to go
Speaker 7: and attack You say, well, Donald Trump's the.
Speaker 1: Man, he's in Russia's pocket.
Speaker 7: Well, if you are that interested in that war. And
Speaker 7: he's previously talked about how important this is about going there.
Speaker 7: He was interviewed by Newsweek about going over there and
Speaker 7: sending people over there. Pay attention to his hair, by
Speaker 7: the way, to'll give you an indication of how crazy
Speaker 7: this bloke is.
Speaker 8: To me.
Speaker 10: You know, a lot of the other conflicts are gray,
Speaker 10: but this conflict is definitely black and white. This is
Speaker 10: about good versus evil. This is a storybook, you know,
Speaker 10: any movie we've ever watched. This is definitely evil against good.
Speaker 10: I mean we're bowling a situation here where you know,
Speaker 10: the Ukrainians and the rest of the world are caring
Speaker 10: and kind and generous and unselfish and take care of
Speaker 10: one another, and it's just a matter of, you know,
Speaker 10: we need to stand up for that. That is the
Speaker 10: most important thing.
Speaker 3: In the world.
Speaker 7: I mean, he should be locked up for that die
Speaker 7: job alone, I think. But if he is that red
Speaker 7: hot on this particular issue and he has POTENTI actually
Speaker 7: being convinced that Trump is the Antichrist when it comes
Speaker 7: to things like this. That's what eventually motivates crazy people
Speaker 7: to try and take the life of a former president
Speaker 7: and potential future president. They cannot escape that the left
Speaker 7: in America cannot escape that it is their rhetoric that
Speaker 7: leads to events like this.
Speaker 2: The tweet that you read, which he posted on April
Speaker 2: twenty two, so not that long ago, and he said
Speaker 2: democracy is on the ballot, which is exactly aping words
Speaker 2: we've heard from Kamala Harris and friends. And remember after
Speaker 2: the first assassination attempt, the Democrats held their convention, but
Speaker 2: they continued to repeat these things, that the future of
Speaker 2: America was at stake, that Trump was a threat to democracy.
Speaker 2: Even during the debate just a few days ago, Kamala
Speaker 2: Harris repeated in Sinday lies about Trump that he said
Speaker 2: he would be a dictator, that he had threatened a
Speaker 2: blood bath if he lost the election, that he thought
Speaker 2: Neo Nazis were fine people. And then of course you've
Speaker 2: got celebrities on the left like the band member Kyle
Speaker 2: Gas from Tenacious D, who was here in Australia only
Speaker 2: recently and said for his birthday he hoped that next
Speaker 2: time they don't miss a shot at Trump. And so
Speaker 2: should we really be surprised that here we are sixty
Speaker 2: three days I think since the last attempt on Trump's life,
Speaker 2: there's been another one, and we've still got about fifty
Speaker 2: days to go until the next election. It's almost not
Speaker 2: a question of who will win in November, but who'll
Speaker 2: still be alive?
Speaker 9: Yeah, who'll still be standing.
Speaker 5: But can you imagine if this had been an attempt
Speaker 5: on Kamala Harris, how much more so the media would
Speaker 5: be streaming from the rooftops. I mean, in this instant
Speaker 5: it hasn't been given half as much coverage because of
Speaker 5: course it wasn't half as spectacular as a live rally,
Speaker 5: and he did actually get shot, but it was just
Speaker 5: his ear and he had fallen down. He'd just fallen
Speaker 5: down for hours and hours. The mainstream media has simply
Speaker 5: told us, well, he's fallen down. We don't know much else,
Speaker 5: And of course we saw in the following days it
Speaker 5: was just pure obfiscation from the Secret Service, from the FBI,
Speaker 5: from everybody else involved. Thankfully, Governor DeSantis, the governor in Florida,
Speaker 5: has said that the state will be carrying out its
Speaker 5: own investigation in this instance as to how on earth
Speaker 5: this could have taken place. So it will be really
Speaker 5: interesting to see what the Secret Service and everybody else
Speaker 5: comes up with versus what DeSantis's own team will come
Speaker 5: up with. Although those who have bad blood right now,
Speaker 5: but I'm sure he'll do a good job.
Speaker 9: He's a very good governor.
Speaker 5: But the big question is how long until the next
Speaker 5: attempt on Trump's life when mainstream media still insists on platforming.
Speaker 5: Like Claire mccaskell, here's what she had to say, and
Speaker 5: then you wonder why people like this shooter take it
Speaker 5: upon themselves to eliminate the problem. A lot of people
Speaker 5: have tried to draw similarities between Mussolini and Hitler and
Speaker 5: the use of the terminology like vermin and the drive
Speaker 5: that those men had towards autocracy and dictatorship.
Speaker 9: The difference, though, I think McDonald Trump even more dangerous,
Speaker 9: and that is he has.
Speaker 3: No philosophy he believes in.
Speaker 9: He is not trying to expand the boundaries in.
Speaker 3: The United States of America.
Speaker 5: He's not trying to overcome a neighboring country like Putin
Speaker 5: is in Ukraine. He is not going for some grandiose
Speaker 5: scheme of international dominance. All he wants is to look
Speaker 5: in the mirror and see a guy who's president. And
Speaker 5: even after this second attempt on Trump's life, the teen
Speaker 5: Trump is still putting up with much the same from
Speaker 5: mainstream media. Here was jd Vance talking to CNN, just
Speaker 5: trying to get a wood in edge wise and pointing
Speaker 5: out the vast dichotomy between how CNN talks to people
Speaker 5: from the Trump sorry, the Harris campaign, as opposed to
Speaker 5: the Trump campaign like himself.
Speaker 11: It's I feel Danna, and they're telling me this stuff
Speaker 11: is happening. Dana, would you like to ask me questions
Speaker 11: and then let me answer them, or would you like
Speaker 11: to debate me on these topics? I noticed that when
Speaker 11: you had Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz, you gave them
Speaker 11: multiple choice answers to the questions that you asked, and
Speaker 11: you allowed them.
Speaker 3: To answer the questions.
Speaker 11: I'm happy to hear to be here to talk about policy,
Speaker 11: but if you're going to interrupt me every single time
Speaker 11: that I open my mouth, then why am I even
Speaker 11: doing this? So please ask a question, and I'd ask
Speaker 11: you to be polite.
Speaker 3: Enough to let me answer.
Speaker 5: I just love it when they take these hosts to
Speaker 5: task and say everyone can see what you're doing. Why
Speaker 5: do you treat me so differently? And also why do
Speaker 5: you even have me on if I'm not allowed to
Speaker 5: ask the questions that I'm here to answer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the assassins, but JD Evans did not miss at all.
Speaker 2: She required medical attention after that interview. But this is
Speaker 2: a thing with conservative politicians. You've got to be able
Speaker 2: to handle an adversarial media. Otherwise just forget about going
Speaker 2: into politics. I like the way he pulled her up,
Speaker 2: but he did it very politely. Yes, he did it
Speaker 2: as a gentleman, and you can see why Trump was
Speaker 2: keen for him to be the running mate. I cannot
Speaker 2: wait for the vice presidential debate because Tim Woltz, who
Speaker 2: I know will get to in just a moment, I
Speaker 2: don't think is going to be any match for jd.
Speaker 7: Van. Well, that's it, get him on a debate stage.
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, we watched the debate last week
Speaker 7: between Trump and Harris. Harris of course, has subsequently called
Speaker 7: for a second debate. Something tells me there won't be
Speaker 7: a second debate because Harris needs it a lot more
Speaker 7: than Trump does, because she really needs to prove herself
Speaker 7: in that sort of situation. But you put him on
Speaker 7: stage with Tim Waltz and he will absolutely wipe the
Speaker 7: floor with him. This is the reason that Trump chose
Speaker 7: Jdevans because he such a good public speaker. He can
Speaker 7: demolish someone like Dana Bash there, who of course interviewed
Speaker 7: Kamala Harris, as he mentioned in that clip there, and
Speaker 7: we all saw that interview that where she had Tim
Speaker 7: Waltz there holding her hand for all of twenty six minutes.
Speaker 7: It was such a softball interview. He's saying, look how
Speaker 7: about some equality here? And speaking of Tim Waalts, he
Speaker 7: was at a rally on the weekend and well, he's
Speaker 7: got a great way he's worked out how they're going
Speaker 7: to win the election by harassing people at the supermarket.
Speaker 12: This thing's going to be a battle for the next
Speaker 12: fifty two days.
Speaker 3: It's going to be in rooms, one in rooms just
Speaker 3: like this.
Speaker 1: It's going to be one.
Speaker 12: Door to door, call the call five dollars donation, trying
Speaker 12: to have that hard conversation in the produce aisle with
Speaker 12: the person you saw there at the grocery store and
Speaker 12: ask have you voted yet?
Speaker 7: Look, I don't know, I might be an outlier, but
Speaker 7: if I am at the supermarket on a set doing
Speaker 7: my shopping and someone comes up to me and goes,
Speaker 7: have you voted yet? Are you going to vote for
Speaker 7: Kamala Harris, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Walk out there and go vote for Donald Trump.
Speaker 7: Like there is nothing that would turn me off more
Speaker 7: than being told in the supermarket when I'm just going
Speaker 7: about my business, have you voted yet.
Speaker 2: But it's a terrible strategy by Democrats because if you're
Speaker 2: at the grocery store and you say have you considered
Speaker 2: voting for Democrats?
Speaker 3: People will just look at the prices on the shelves
Speaker 3: and think I am totally voting for Trump.
Speaker 2: There's only one thing worse than being costed by Tim
Speaker 2: Waltz at the supermarket, and that's being accosted by his wife.
Speaker 3: Gwen.
Speaker 2: You think Kamala Harris is weird. We take a look
Speaker 2: at the vice president's or the potential vice president's wife.
Speaker 3: She is off the Rickles scale.
Speaker 9: Okay, so I he should be with me and practice
Speaker 9: with me.
Speaker 1: What are we gonna do.
Speaker 9: We're gonna turn the pay. Oh, pretty good, Jordan.
Speaker 5: Again, We're gonna turn the pay and we're going up
Speaker 5: turn the pay. All right, col I'm gonna be watching
Speaker 5: you because when I see Wisconsin and I'm one to
Speaker 5: watching National.
Speaker 9: And TV because it's in pretty important place in Minnesota.
Speaker 9: Help you practice it with this.
Speaker 3: You just show me this.
Speaker 9: Turn the page.
Speaker 1: Right, turn the page, and you know what else that
Speaker 1: looks like?
Speaker 9: Bye bye, bye bye Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: We are turning the page fifty two days and we
Speaker 3: are turn the bay fifty two days.
Speaker 9: Bye bye, Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: I just love watching Tim Wiltzson the background.
Speaker 2: He's looking at his wife like when I married you,
Speaker 2: I had no idea I'd be running for VP. And
Speaker 2: if I had known, maybe I would have chosen differently.
Speaker 5: And this is the same woman who said that during
Speaker 5: the BLM riot she opened the she could smell the
Speaker 5: chaos outside and how awesome it was, and everyone was
Speaker 5: like getting seriously weird.
Speaker 9: Vibes from this woman.
Speaker 5: Who does that to a local issue now in Queensland.
Speaker 4: Which surprisingly the media.
Speaker 5: Didn't really mention a week ago when Queensland Parliament because
Speaker 5: they know they're running out of time.
Speaker 9: It's soon that.
Speaker 5: We're all going to the ballot box if you're in Queensland,
Speaker 5: and it is probably most likely goodbye to a labor
Speaker 5: government for the first time in a long time.
Speaker 1: So it shall I put you up for a second.
Speaker 7: It's not goodbye, it's bye bye, miles, bye bye.
Speaker 1: Anyway, carry off.
Speaker 9: They've rammed through this bill called it always sounds very innocuous.
Speaker 5: It's called Respect at Work in Other Matters Amendment Bill. Yes,
Speaker 5: who doesn't want respect at work? We all want respect
Speaker 5: at work, don't we get this? This is One Nation
Speaker 5: candidate Nick Moire actually explaining what this new bill will
Speaker 5: mean coming into effect next July.
Speaker 13: Well, this is a very dark day in Australia's history,
Speaker 13: ladist and gentlemen, because this week the Respected Work and
Speaker 13: Other Matter's Amendment Bill twenty twenty four was passed in
Speaker 13: Queensland Parliament.
Speaker 3: Or what does this mean for you?
Speaker 13: Well, from now on we're going to have to police
Speaker 13: our thoughts and our speech very carefully on social media.
Speaker 13: And here is why. Any post made on social media
Speaker 13: now is deemed by this bill to be a public act,
Speaker 13: and any public act found offensive by a reasonable person
Speaker 13: of the minority community that it describes is then chargeable
Speaker 13: under section fifty two A of the Criminal Code. And
Speaker 13: these charges carry a maximum sentence of three years jail time.
Speaker 13: So as you can see, it's not hyperble to say
Speaker 13: that this bill paves the way for Queensland citizens to
Speaker 13: serve jail time for social media posts that offend minorities.
Speaker 13: This bill is the most egregious encroachment of freedom of
Speaker 13: speech that I have ever seen in Australia, and we're
Speaker 13: still This is a piece of legislation that is self protecting.
Speaker 5: This is social engineering, legislation that, in ever to belie,
Speaker 5: absolutely trashes the rights of the individual to simply say
Speaker 5: what they believe, post what they believe, express their thoughts.
Speaker 9: And feelings without worrying.
Speaker 5: Hey, if this offends someone, I'm in big trouble. Up
Speaker 5: to three years in jail for offending someone.
Speaker 9: This also ups the ante.
Speaker 5: On employers because the onus is now on them not
Speaker 5: to punish discrimination if it happens, but to prevent it
Speaker 5: from happening in.
Speaker 3: The first place.
Speaker 9: How is this even possible.
Speaker 2: Well, there's two major flaws in their thinking right. The
Speaker 2: first is they believe that they can somehow eliminate any
Speaker 2: offense and create a world where no one is ever offended.
Speaker 2: I prefer that when we believed in religion, and we
Speaker 2: believe that one day in the hereafter, God.
Speaker 3: Will perfect everything.
Speaker 2: Once you get rid of religion, then you get governments
Speaker 2: who believe they can perfect everything.
Speaker 3: Now it's impossible.
Speaker 2: It's a fantasy to have a world in which no
Speaker 2: one is ever offended.
Speaker 3: In the second floor.
Speaker 2: Is that it's desirable when you get offended you can
Speaker 2: run off to the state government and have a bit
Speaker 2: of a cry and a sook and say, well, Caleb
Speaker 2: said something mean to me and I'm offended, and the
Speaker 2: government to go to war on your behalf. That's a
Speaker 2: ridiculous sort of idea. And the other strange thing about
Speaker 2: this legislation is it's not just if you offend a person,
Speaker 2: it's if you offend a group. So I could say
Speaker 2: something to you that you are not offended by. But
Speaker 2: somebody else who's part of your identity group, whether they're
Speaker 2: a female or whether they belong to whatever other group
Speaker 2: you identify as part of. Though you haven't been offended
Speaker 2: by what I said to you, they could be offended
Speaker 2: because they identify as part of your group, which is
Speaker 2: a ridiculous breach of common sense, not to mention civil liberties.
Speaker 7: And it's the pernicious nature in which they introduce this
Speaker 7: kind of legislation, So it's buried in, as you said before,
Speaker 7: the whatever it's called, you know, and.
Speaker 3: Other matters, and.
Speaker 7: This is the other matter we're talking about here, reach
Speaker 7: and they are the most onerous workplace discrimination laws in
Speaker 7: the country. They go further than any piece of federal legislation.
Speaker 7: They go further than any other states legislation in putting
Speaker 7: the onus on the workplace to stop discrimination before it happens. Okay,
Speaker 7: so what you know the copp is now I'm just
Speaker 7: you know, broading this out from the workplace. But we
Speaker 7: now expecting the cops to go and knock on everyone's
Speaker 7: Excuse me, sir, are you likely to commit a crime today.
Speaker 7: I just want to check in before I have to
Speaker 7: come and arrest you later.
Speaker 1: I just want to know now. I mean, how is
Speaker 1: an employer.
Speaker 7: Meant to know wh a member of staff is going
Speaker 7: to do something that may or may not be discriminatory.
Speaker 7: But they hide stuff like this in legislation like that
Speaker 7: so that you don't notice that it's going on, which
Speaker 7: is why we're talking about it six days. This was
Speaker 7: passed on the tenth of Syptem. We're talking about it
Speaker 7: now six days after the fact because we hadn't heard
Speaker 7: that this was happening. I mean, you know, we're doing
Speaker 7: a national news program here, so we can't be across
Speaker 7: absolutely everything. You would have expected that the media in
Speaker 7: Queensland would have been right on top of something like this.
Speaker 1: But no, it took us nearly a week to hear
Speaker 1: that this has happened.
Speaker 7: And that's why we're talking about it tonight. And it
Speaker 7: was only last week that the federal government not only
Speaker 7: introduced its own misinformation disinformation laws, it introduced water down
Speaker 7: hate speech laws.
Speaker 1: Now, originally that was.
Speaker 7: Going to be that if you offended someone or committed
Speaker 7: hate speech quote unquote on the basis of not just race,
Speaker 7: but religion, sexuality, disability, a whole cast of things that
Speaker 7: you would have been up before the court. We just
Speaker 7: dodged that bullet. And I wrote in the Advertiser last week,
Speaker 7: thank god we dodged that bullet.
Speaker 1: But this is not going to be the end of it.
Speaker 7: Well I needn't have worried about having to wait a
Speaker 7: few months for this to come up again. It was
Speaker 7: literally happening last week. If the federal government can't do it,
Speaker 7: the states are going to do it. This is why
Speaker 7: the culture wars matter. If they ain't going to stop
Speaker 7: until they have banned anyone from saying anything. It's about
Speaker 7: redefining truth ultimately, well.
Speaker 5: On a creepy way in which they do this, as
Speaker 5: if Queenslanders would have thrown their weight behind this, and
Speaker 5: if Queenslanders would have voted for this, But no sneak
Speaker 5: it in, no media coverage, nobody even knows it's happened.
Speaker 5: They'll just be hit with it come July next year
Speaker 5: when these laws come into effect. It was Noam Chomsky
Speaker 5: who once said, and I know that he's a massive lefty,
Speaker 5: but he had some brilliant things to say. He was
Speaker 5: saying that the best way to keep people passive, to
Speaker 5: keep them silent.
Speaker 4: Is to severely restrict the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but
Speaker 4: very smartly you allow robust debate within that spectrum, thereby
Speaker 4: giving people like us the impression that there's three thinking happening.
Speaker 9: There's debate happening.
Speaker 5: No, no, the spectrum is very much restricted. So people think, oh,
Speaker 5: we have freedom of speech here, there's debate happening.
Speaker 9: This isn't China, this isn't Russia.
Speaker 5: But I would argue that the propaganda that goes on
Speaker 5: the restriction on free speech in Western countries is almost
Speaker 5: worse because we do have this idea that no, no,
Speaker 5: it's not happening here. That's something that happens under dictatorships.
Speaker 5: But really that debate that you're watching is simply reinforcing
Speaker 5: the presuppositions of the system one way or another.
Speaker 9: But it's all pointing in the same direction.
Speaker 5: Who among us in our daily lives isn't already self censoring?
Speaker 5: You would catch yourself doing it all the time if
Speaker 5: you're paying attention to the wheels of your mind every
Speaker 5: time you're like, can't say that, I hope nobody overheard
Speaker 5: that conversation that I'm just having with a friend at
Speaker 5: a cafe because that was socially unacceptable. It's just unbelievable
Speaker 5: how this is crept in year after year and now
Speaker 5: bill after bill right under people's noses without them even knowing.
Speaker 3: And when you say it's crept in a year after year.
Speaker 2: I remember, back in two thousand and four, this is
Speaker 2: twenty years ago, there was a Tri Lankan born preacher
Speaker 2: in Melbourne, Danny Nyler, who was doing a seminar for
Speaker 2: Christians in his church and he was comparing Christianity with
Speaker 2: Islam and he read from the Qoran. He just read
Speaker 2: it and people started laughing because the part he read,
Speaker 2: obviously they thought it sounded ridiculous. And he was hauled
Speaker 2: before an anti discrimination tribunal for ridiculing Islam. And all
Speaker 2: he did was he didn't tell a joke, he wasn't
Speaker 2: putting on funny voices. He simply read from the Koran.
Speaker 2: And the commissioner actually asked him, did you intend for
Speaker 2: people to laugh or did you know that people were
Speaker 2: going to laugh? And he said, how can I be
Speaker 2: responsible for the responses of other people when I simply
Speaker 2: read from a religious text.
Speaker 3: Now that was twenty years ago.
Speaker 2: It was ridiculous then, it's still ridiculous today, and yet
Speaker 2: the government continued to push these things. I imagine, however,
Speaker 2: Anthony Albanezi might like these law because he'll go and
Speaker 2: complain that he's being bullied by Elon Musk. Elon Musk,
Speaker 2: of course, posted on x that the Labor federal government
Speaker 2: were a bunch of fascists. Elon Musk commenting on the
Speaker 2: government's planned Misinformation and Disinformation Bill. In response to that,
Speaker 2: Anthony Albanese said, well, if Musk thinks that we're fascists,
Speaker 2: says more about Musk than it does about us, and
Speaker 2: so Elon Musk doubled down, tweeting far left fascists love censorship,
Speaker 2: and so today Anthony Elbanezi continued the fight, coming out
Speaker 2: with this statement. He said, Australians don't give in to bullies,
Speaker 2: or I hope Anthony Alberze goes to Queensland and complains
Speaker 2: and someone does something to protect his feelings. These tech
Speaker 2: comphanies think they're above national sovereignty. I've got to stop
Speaker 2: for a second, Caleb and Liz, is that Anthony Alberaneze
Speaker 2: talking about the importance of national sovereignty speechless I didn't
Speaker 2: know he had heard of such a term.
Speaker 9: Need to come to Jesus moment.
Speaker 3: Clearly zero sovereignty Paris agreement. Who knew they think?
Speaker 2: He continued that digital platforms should have more power than
Speaker 2: citizens do. Funny thing Albanese is trying to take away
Speaker 2: our power as citizens to say what we think.
Speaker 3: He continued.
Speaker 2: We're taking action to protect kids, that little chestnut and
Speaker 2: protect Australians and that is what people want. It's amazing
Speaker 2: And I know, Liza, you've been big on this. How
Speaker 2: Anthony Albanezi keeps conflating to I think separate issues but
Speaker 2: they are merging into one. The arbitrary age limit for
Speaker 2: kids to sign up to social media and policing misinformation
Speaker 2: and disinformation online.
Speaker 3: He was interviewed today and he was.
Speaker 2: Talking about protecting kids. That's why we need an age
Speaker 2: restriction on social media accounts and he said, because they've
Speaker 2: got to be protected from eating disorders, okay, normalizing misogyny. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then he said, and undermining social cohesion. Do you
Speaker 2: think that many parents are worried about their twelve year
Speaker 2: old opening a Facebook account because they're thinking, oh, this
Speaker 2: is not going to be good for their part in
Speaker 2: social cohesion. He's conflating two things, which goes to something
Speaker 2: you've been saying for a while, the push to why
Speaker 2: are you smiling at me? You think I'm a Johnny company.
Speaker 2: I think two things can be true at the same time.
Speaker 2: But the fact he keeps conflating the two does make
Speaker 2: you very suspicious that the push to protect kids is
Speaker 2: really about demonizing the big tech company so he can
Speaker 2: ram through his misinformation and disinformation bill.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, it is genuinely terrifying to watch our government straight
Speaker 5: face while they've got their hate law speech that they're
Speaker 5: trying to convince everyone is very, very necessary. Meanwhile, we
Speaker 5: all know that hate speech is free speech and it
Speaker 5: just depends on the moderator, and none of us trust
Speaker 5: the government to be the moderator. They've got their hate
Speaker 5: speech laws, their misinformation disinformation laws, trying to crack down
Speaker 5: on these platforms by any means that they can possibly harness,
Speaker 5: including oh, we're doing this for the safety and protection
Speaker 5: of children. Really, you've known that this has been so
Speaker 5: detrimental for children ever since the two existed in tandem,
Speaker 5: but it was only until just a few weeks after
Speaker 5: you passed your Digital ID bill aha that it became
Speaker 5: front page news every day, relentlessly.
Speaker 9: We must protect the youth. We must protect the youth.
Speaker 5: Their agenda has never been more transparent. We've also got
Speaker 5: our e Safety Commissioner embarrassing us on the world stage,
Speaker 5: trying to take to task these tech giants.
Speaker 9: None of us surely actually believe.
Speaker 5: That the government has Australian's best interests in heart.
Speaker 9: They are all about.
Speaker 5: Controlling the narrative, because if you can't control the narrative,
Speaker 5: you can't control the people.
Speaker 9: And it's just completely out of control.
Speaker 5: If we can have freethinking people freely exchanging information and
Speaker 5: sharing their thoughts and feelings online, that is a danger
Speaker 5: to democracy.
Speaker 7: And that's why the social media age restriction came up
Speaker 7: last week.
Speaker 1: So this idea has been floating around for a while.
Speaker 7: It had been a campaign by News Corp. Dutton had
Speaker 7: got on board with the idea months ago. Albanize comes
Speaker 7: out last week and says, sure, Okay, well we're going
Speaker 7: to do it now.
Speaker 1: I don't have an age yet that I'm going to
Speaker 1: set it by.
Speaker 7: The trial that we're going to do for this thing
Speaker 7: hasn't even started yet, but I'm somehow going to have
Speaker 7: this thing ready to go by the end of the year,
Speaker 7: because of course last week he had the hate Speech
Speaker 7: Bill came up and the Misinformation Disinformation Bill come up,
Speaker 7: and so he knows, as do we all, that the
Speaker 7: idea of restricting children from social media is a popular policy,
Speaker 7: but he needs something to get the other two through,
Speaker 7: or almost sneak the other two through along with And
Speaker 7: so the conflation that we've just talked about if you
Speaker 7: build them or meld them all into one and say well,
Speaker 7: this all has to be done in one shot here,
Speaker 7: because it's all about protection, whether it's protection of the
Speaker 7: kids or protection of you from misinformation which is just
Speaker 7: stuff that the government doesn't want you to read. That
Speaker 7: is what he is going to use to ram it through.
Speaker 7: Going back to a previous point, we have to defend
Speaker 7: our right to offend. Let's go to some craziness in
Speaker 7: the green world. Now we love bringing you these stories
Speaker 7: and yet another one. Now we know that if there
Speaker 7: is a hung Parliament at the next federal election, which
Speaker 7: is likely to be early next year, the Greens has
Speaker 7: a list of demands for the federal government the Labor
Speaker 7: government if they want to get back into power, including
Speaker 7: a bunch of crazy stuff about what they need to
Speaker 7: do in terms of renewables and energy. One of the
Speaker 7: things they want is a total ban on gas will
Speaker 7: Australian Energy Producers has produced a report sorry telling us
Speaker 7: exactly what that would do to the country. They say
Speaker 7: within a decade, most industrial demand would go i met
Speaker 7: and most industrial gas users would likely cease operations due
Speaker 7: to a lack of alternative energy sources. And in the
Speaker 7: longer term there would be significant disruption and potentially shortfalls
Speaker 7: for residential and commercial gas users if this came into being,
Speaker 7: and the government would have to think long and hard
Speaker 7: about these policies if they want to retain government in
Speaker 7: a minority situation. We could be having blackouts across the
Speaker 7: instant sea board within two years. How many times have
Speaker 7: we warned you about potential blackouts because of a lack
Speaker 7: of energy in this country. The Greens would only further that,
Speaker 7: But they're getting a dose in Queensland already of what
Speaker 7: happens when you rely too much on renewable energy and
Speaker 7: you don't have enough power. You've got to get it
Speaker 7: from somewhere, right, So they're currently building a big water
Speaker 7: pipeline between Fitzroy and Gladstone, ostensibly so they can get
Speaker 7: all this water to Gladstone to be used in green
Speaker 7: hydrogen projects that are being backed by big investors like
Speaker 7: Twiky Forest. That sounds great, We're gonna get all this
Speaker 7: renewable green energy out of hydrogen. How do you think
Speaker 7: they're going to power the works to build this pipeline
Speaker 7: diesel generators? Yes, of course, because they don't have enough
Speaker 7: power to do the thing.
Speaker 1: Time and time again.
Speaker 7: In order to make this stuff work, the renewable dream
Speaker 7: days to work, you've got to use dirty power, diesel
Speaker 7: being some of the dirtiest power you can get your
Speaker 7: hands on. And it reminds me remember when South Australia
Speaker 7: was plunged into a total blackout back in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 7: I think it was twenty sixteen seventeen, and then Jay Weatherill,
Speaker 7: who was Premier at the time, rushed off to Elon
Speaker 7: Musk and said, we need to build a big battery
Speaker 7: in the outback in South Australia, which they did, and
Speaker 7: in the planning for how they would make up for
Speaker 7: energy shortfalls, because South Australia is mostly run on renewable energy,
Speaker 7: what did they do they when bought diesel generators.
Speaker 3: I mean, for heaven's sake.
Speaker 2: Well, there's problems on every side when it comes to renewables.
Speaker 3: We'll finish with this.
Speaker 2: Report from China where they're banning electric vehicles from underground
Speaker 2: car parks. Now, it's been reported that hotels have told
Speaker 2: owners of electric vehicles they cannot park underground for safety
Speaker 2: reasons because of course, if there's a fire, these hotels
Speaker 2: don't have sufficient firefighting systems to contain the fires. That
Speaker 2: there was one five star hotel that had to sign
Speaker 2: up advising patrons park in wide open spaces, which is
Speaker 2: code for if there's a fire, we don't want you
Speaker 2: anywhere near our hotel. And it's not just hotels, Liz,
Speaker 2: but ferries in Greece now are refusing to carry evs.
Speaker 2: In Norway, there's a shipping company that will not transport
Speaker 2: electric vehicles. There was a sixty thousand ton cargo ship
Speaker 2: taking four hundred vehicles from Germany to.
Speaker 3: The United States.
Speaker 2: It's sunk after vehicles started catching fire.
Speaker 3: It's a major problem.
Speaker 2: But if you're going to buy a Tesla and go
Speaker 2: to a hotel in China, they will not allow you
Speaker 2: to park underground because it's just too much of a risk.
Speaker 2: No east scooters or e bikes under the hotel either.
Speaker 2: That's all on that.
Speaker 3: Part of things.
Speaker 2: But we're going to go to a break and after
Speaker 2: the break come back with what's making news in the papers,
Speaker 2: including some good news about parking.
Speaker 3: Fins that's coming up in just a moment.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's take a look at tomorrow's papers and Liz,
Speaker 2: we've got a good news story for us.
Speaker 5: We sho the front page of Daily Telly Sneaky councils
Speaker 5: cop ban on ticketless parking fines.
Speaker 3: That's the ticket.
Speaker 5: Greedy councils will be banned from issuing sneaky ticketless parking
Speaker 5: fines as the state government steps up to stop unsuspecting
Speaker 5: drivers getting stung without the chance of disputing the penalties
Speaker 5: and a win for murtorists and common sense. New South
Speaker 5: Wales Finance Minister Courtney Whosos will legislate to effectively ban
Speaker 5: ticketless parking fines after greedy councils raked in one hundred
Speaker 5: and fifty five million via these in visible fines the
Speaker 5: last year alone. Thank goodness, common sense is prevailing. This
Speaker 5: was always unfair and remember when Premier Min's was like,
Speaker 5: all right, you lot cut it out. Fines have to
Speaker 5: be proper fines. They have to be on the windshield
Speaker 5: otherwise they didn't happen, and the council has just completely
Speaker 5: ignored him.
Speaker 9: So legislateated is.
Speaker 3: This is not good news for everybody.
Speaker 2: There are council treasurers all over New South Wales thinking.
Speaker 3: How are we going to afford those pride flags?
Speaker 2: How are we going to pay for all those bike
Speaker 2: lanes we were counting on this revenue. So they'll be sad,
Speaker 2: but everyone else very pleased and it's the right thing
Speaker 2: to It's ridiculous here's going to find and have no
Speaker 2: opportunity to dispute it at all.
Speaker 7: Of course it's the right thing to do, but you know,
Speaker 7: it reminds me again.
Speaker 1: I know, I bang this drum all the time.
Speaker 7: But councils only have powers because state governments give them powers,
Speaker 7: and so in cases like this, the state government has
Speaker 7: to step in and till the council what they can
Speaker 7: and can't do. I'll give you a little tip. They
Speaker 7: wouldn't have to do that if they just abolished the
Speaker 7: councils and subsumed all their powers, take every single one
Speaker 7: of their powers away and it'll fix a lot of
Speaker 7: the problem.
Speaker 9: Dream and the dream, Caylee.
Speaker 1: I know I am working on it.
Speaker 7: I know I could spend my whole life farting.
Speaker 3: But here's the flaw in your plan.
Speaker 2: Which local government minister is going to cancel all local
Speaker 2: governments and then he's no longer in the ministry.
Speaker 1: A brave one, A brave one.
Speaker 7: You know. He's a local government minister who if I
Speaker 7: had the money, I'd give him a job for life
Speaker 7: after doing Matt.
Speaker 2: Let's go to the Canberra Times, where they've got a
Speaker 2: great IT story. Now at Sky and News, our IT
Speaker 2: department a phenomenal but for many workplaces, the it are
Speaker 2: always the bane of everybody's existence. Well, Defense have got
Speaker 2: a problem with their IT department because well they've got
Speaker 2: a fairly major cost blowout. Defense one point five billion
Speaker 2: dollar blowout, reads their headline. A project to modernize the
Speaker 2: back office its stems for the Department of Fence will
Speaker 2: cost a lazy one point five billion dollars more than
Speaker 2: the upper limit of its initial budget and stretch out
Speaker 2: to twenty thirty despite the project originally scheduled to wrap.
Speaker 3: Up by next year.
Speaker 2: So how was the IT Department at Defense doing all.
Speaker 2: Aside from being five years overtime and one point five
Speaker 2: billion dollars over budget, they're doing pretty well. The original
Speaker 2: cost of this project, the article says, was meant to
Speaker 2: be somewhere between one billion and two billion, which is
Speaker 2: quite an amazing cost estimate that seems to be to
Speaker 2: be fairly elastic.
Speaker 5: How bad was it that an update is costing that much?
Speaker 9: What were you doing just shuffling papers around?
Speaker 3: So the upper limit was two billion, it's going to
Speaker 3: be what now three point five?
Speaker 7: How does this happen? We've had a number of stories
Speaker 7: like this in recent weeks. Another one out of Canberra
Speaker 7: where a government department had said some project was going
Speaker 7: to come in under budget and then it came in
Speaker 7: actually forty fifty million.
Speaker 1: Dollars over budget.
Speaker 7: We had a story from the Adelaide Hills Council in
Speaker 7: Adelaide where they had forecast a budget surplus and then
Speaker 7: they came back with a big deficit when they finally
Speaker 7: got at the end of the financial year. You know,
Speaker 7: forty fifty million, You go, jeez, that's big numbers. How
Speaker 7: do you go one and a half billion dollars over budget?
Speaker 7: That's not just oh, we sort of got this a
Speaker 7: little bit wrong. That is, we got it so catastrophically
Speaker 7: wrong that you could not imagine anyone getting something that wrong.
Speaker 1: I set up before.
Speaker 7: But can you imagine walking into the CEO's office at
Speaker 7: any private business and saying, so, you wanted an update
Speaker 7: on the IT system upgrade? So, oh yes, yes, how's
Speaker 7: it going. How's the budget looking? Look, it's all on track.
Speaker 7: Don't worry about it. It's just going to be one
Speaker 7: and a half billion dollars over budget. You wouldn't have
Speaker 7: a job tomorrow.
Speaker 3: But in the public ser no problem, okay.
Speaker 2: If you're describing my weekly grocery experiences.
Speaker 7: I just don't understand how people keep getting away with it.
Speaker 7: Will anyone be sacked?
Speaker 1: Probably not.
Speaker 7: I may as well go and joining the public service,
Speaker 7: have a job for life. The Australian tomorrow SOS fury
Speaker 7: at funding for hate speech groups. Now we finally know
Speaker 7: what the government's the federal government's doing with all that money.
Speaker 7: They could have given another one and a half billion
Speaker 7: if they hadn't been spending it on the IT Department
Speaker 7: of Defense organizations giving a platform to figures with controversial
Speaker 7: views such as those that killed such as sorry, such
Speaker 7: as those killed in the October seven attack were not innocent,
Speaker 7: have received taxpayer funding under an Albanesi government program. The
Speaker 7: fifty million dollar Securing Faith Based Places grant program was
Speaker 7: holsted after the October seven terror attack. Again, someone in
Speaker 7: a government department somewhere is dolling out this money. Do
Speaker 7: they not do their due diligence?
Speaker 9: Clearly not.
Speaker 7: We are talking about not their money, our money, taxpayers money.
Speaker 7: No one is taking any notice of how it's spent
Speaker 7: or where it's spent, whether it be in defense on
Speaker 7: the IT system or money that's grants for religious organizations.
Speaker 7: Are just handing it at willy nilly basic.
Speaker 9: And it was just last.
Speaker 5: Week also on the front page of the OS we
Speaker 5: were talking about that one of the hate preachers in
Speaker 5: Western Sydney who had been invited to apply for part
Speaker 5: of a two point four billion dollar grant by the government. Oh,
Speaker 5: would you like some of that role up, Just submit
Speaker 5: your application. These are people who should not be receiving
Speaker 5: a cent of our taxpayer dollar. And yet here's a
Speaker 5: second instance in the space of a week.
Speaker 2: So the Albanezi government is worried about social cohesion and
Speaker 2: yet they're dolling out millions of taxpayer dollars to organizations
Speaker 2: that are creating divisiveness and sprouting violent retric One of
Speaker 2: the organizations, according to this report, that's getting money from
Speaker 2: the government to beef up their own security is the
Speaker 2: Australian Islamic House, which hosted a speaker who said that
Speaker 2: the the one thy four hundred Israelis killed on October
Speaker 2: seven were not innocent, but they'd provoked Palestinians by stealing
Speaker 2: their land and also referred to modern Israel as sorry
Speaker 2: to Israel, as modern day Nazis. So they're saying all
Speaker 2: this sort of stuff which is clearly creating fear and
Speaker 2: angst in the Jewish community, but they get government money
Speaker 2: to beef up their own security.
Speaker 12: Yep.
Speaker 2: And just on that, we keep hearing, you know, anti
Speaker 2: Semitism and Islamophobia that they're both a problem. Yet to
Speaker 2: really see much evidence of rampant Islamophobia in this country,
Speaker 2: but anti Semitism, there's a new example we could bring
Speaker 2: you every single night. So for the government money to
Speaker 2: be doled out as if they're both equally problematic seems
Speaker 2: to me a little disingenuous.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And in a case like this deserves ministerial intervention.
Speaker 7: But we know that Labor is worried about Muslim votes,
Speaker 7: particularly in Western Sydney, so something they there won't be
Speaker 7: any ministerial intervention while we're on these matters. Also says
Speaker 7: on the of the Els tomorrow, US urges Australia over
Speaker 7: UN Israel vote. The Albanezi government is facing US pressure
Speaker 7: to reject a draft UN resolution by the Palestinian Authority
Speaker 7: demanding an immediate Israeli withdrawal from Gaza and the West
Speaker 7: Bank and sanctions against the Jewish State. Now, of course
Speaker 7: the Palestinian authority would want that. The fact that Australia
Speaker 7: would be thinking of voting in favor of something like
Speaker 7: this is just outrageous. Okay, like every other war that
Speaker 7: has ever happened. What happens when you just you know,
Speaker 7: pull out wholess bowlus and walk away from it, Well,
Speaker 7: you leave things behind, you open a vacuum. We already
Speaker 7: know Hamas is in control in Gaza. It's just an
Speaker 7: invitation to say, oh, keep going on your merry way.
Speaker 7: Like sure, you might say, we would like to see
Speaker 7: a potential end date to this war, but you can't
Speaker 7: run around, say just walk out and expect everything's going to.
Speaker 3: Be fair, and are we forgetting something hostages? There's about
Speaker 3: one hundred hostages still in Gaza.
Speaker 2: So Palestine become honorary members or whatever of the United
Speaker 2: Nations and within four months. This is the kind of
Speaker 2: rubbish they come up with. This is why most people
Speaker 2: thought they should never be part of the UN in
Speaker 2: the first place. Anyway, we're going to go to a
Speaker 2: break when we come back. Would you pay people to
Speaker 2: exercise on your behalf? Doesn't really make sense, does it?
Speaker 2: And yet people are doing it. We'll talk about that
Speaker 2: in just a moment. Well, we're often amazed at the
Speaker 2: lengths people will go to in order to impress others,
Speaker 2: but this, honestly is next level. You may have heard
Speaker 2: of the exercise app Strava. You use it to track
Speaker 2: and then share with other people your run or you're cycling,
Speaker 2: and I've got it, surprised to find you in the
Speaker 2: ad break.
Speaker 3: Even Caleb's got.
Speaker 2: Strava surprise that I wasn't sure you could get the
Speaker 2: Strava for drinking glasses of wine.
Speaker 3: Here's the deal.
Speaker 2: There's this expression, if it's not on Strava, it didn't happen.
Speaker 2: So it's very important to track your run or your
Speaker 2: bike ride and then post it so everyone can see
Speaker 2: how athletic and how disciplined you are.
Speaker 3: Well, there's a new trend where people are paying.
Speaker 2: Others to do the run or do the cycle for
Speaker 2: them and then upload it to their Strava. So I
Speaker 2: guess it's a way of sleeping in until ten, but
Speaker 2: all your work colleagues think you're incredibly focused and incredibly disciplined.
Speaker 2: Gill from the UK is calling himself a Strava mule
Speaker 2: and he thought, he says, I thought, I've got some
Speaker 2: time on my hands.
Speaker 3: I'd love to go for a cycle ride.
Speaker 2: It'd be great for someone to pay enough for my coffee,
Speaker 2: my drink and my banana afterwards. So he started advertising
Speaker 2: on air tasker, Hey, if you'd like me to do
Speaker 2: your ride for you, and then you can upload it as.
Speaker 3: If you've done it, and people are paying him to
Speaker 3: do alievable. It's all social credit, right.
Speaker 2: You get no physical benefit from paying someone else to
Speaker 2: exercise on your behalf.
Speaker 7: But imagine that level of vanity that I need people
Speaker 7: to think I'm doing this level of exercise.
Speaker 1: Someone to do it for me. They say, don't believe
Speaker 1: everything you see online. This is just the ultimate case
Speaker 1: of that.
Speaker 2: Surely, I've got to tell you quickly. I was found
Speaker 2: unconscious riding my bike. I came off it and so
Speaker 2: the ambulance picked me up. They rushed me to hospital.
Speaker 2: I was unconscious right but after it all I checked
Speaker 2: my Strava. I was doing one hundred and thirty five
Speaker 2: k's and no one knew it was in the back
Speaker 2: of an ambulance.
Speaker 3: They just thought I had a great tail with it.
Speaker 9: They got to be like, this guy is incredible.
Speaker 5: Just before we leave each tonight, a guy by the
Speaker 5: name of Ron Buke. He's a dog walker and he's
Speaker 5: been fined by his local counsel. Some Karen's been on
Speaker 5: his case for walking ten dogs. Apparently this is against
Speaker 5: the law in this particular Council of Port Philip. Ron says,
Speaker 5: I've been walking dogs for over twenty years.
Speaker 9: And I've never had an issue.
Speaker 5: I've noticed in the last year or two Port Philip
Speaker 5: has been cracking down on us dog walkers. I think
Speaker 5: they're just a bit short of money and it's just
Speaker 5: a grab for cash. They literally took him to the
Speaker 5: magistrates court He was fined for nine hundred and sixty dollars.
Speaker 9: Which he got reduced in court. Good on your ran.
Speaker 5: Apparently you're not allowed to walk more than seven dogs
Speaker 5: without a permit.
Speaker 9: What is the world coming to? It's an off dog,
Speaker 9: it's an off Lee show.
Speaker 7: How do they come up with a number of seven dogs?
Speaker 1: Anyway?
Speaker 7: Look the one place in the world where they don't
Speaker 7: have these rules, I'm sure Springfield, Ohio would be.
Speaker 5: Beating the door.
Speaker 3: That's it from us. We've got to go, but stick around.
Speaker 2: Coming up is the reader Penn issue.