WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 16 September

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<v Speaker 1>Late Welcome Lait Debate.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for joining us on the Late Debate. I'm James

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<v Speaker 2>Macpherson with Liz Storer and Caleb Bond coming up. We've

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<v Speaker 2>brought you some ridiculous trends on the Late Debate, but

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<v Speaker 2>this one takes the cake. Paying other people to exercise

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<v Speaker 2>for you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a real thing. We'll talk about that a little later.

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<v Speaker 2>Plus, when we look at the papers, there's a good

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<v Speaker 2>news story tomorrow, council's band from issuing ticketless parking fines,

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<v Speaker 2>and outrage that government funding has gone towards hate speech groups.

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<v Speaker 3>All of that.

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<v Speaker 2>When we look at the papers, you know, Democrats describe

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<v Speaker 2>him as a threat to democracy, a madman who will

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<v Speaker 2>plunge America into a dystopian nightmare. The media say he's

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<v Speaker 2>a cross between I don't know, Mussolini and Hitler, only worse.

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<v Speaker 2>The Secret Service say he's not the sitting president, so

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't get a full security detail.

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<v Speaker 3>And so nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Weeks after Thomas Crook's fired of shots at Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>one of which hit him in the ear, there's been

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<v Speaker 2>a second.

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<v Speaker 3>Attempt on his life.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's two assassination attempts in just nine weeks. While

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris is dodging interviews Donald Trump, He's dodging bullets.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you listen to MSNBC, well, it's all Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's fault.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you expect to hear anything from the Trump campaign

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<v Speaker 4>about toning down the rhetoric, toning down the.

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<v Speaker 5>Violence, or would that be a typical of the former president?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, Alex, remember back to the assassination attempt on President

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<v Speaker 6>Trump's life and how you know, there was talk of

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<v Speaker 6>a new tone, and then the Republican Convention was, by

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<v Speaker 6>Trumpian standards, muted, and it did seem like he was,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, just trying to take it down a few notches.

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<v Speaker 6>But then by the end of his convention speech, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>we were kind of back to where we started.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I remember when we used to joke that

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<v Speaker 2>if Donald Trump cured cancer, he'd be criticized for putting

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<v Speaker 2>oncologists out of work. These days, Donald Trump can't even

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<v Speaker 2>get shot at without it being his fault, Caleb.

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<v Speaker 1>And is insane?

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<v Speaker 7>It will actually, no, it's not insane by American left standards.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an entirely insane resers.

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<v Speaker 7>Normal and it's exactly what we saw after as you say,

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<v Speaker 7>he got shot in the ear in Pennsylvania. I remember

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<v Speaker 7>on CNN one of the first things they were saying

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<v Speaker 7>was that, you know, oh, he just he fell to

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<v Speaker 7>the ground, you know, not that it was obvious that

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<v Speaker 7>he'd been shot or anything. They wonder why things like

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<v Speaker 7>this keep happening. If you try to blame the bloke

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<v Speaker 7>who is being shot for being shot, you may have

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<v Speaker 7>a small problem. It is exactly this kind of rhetoric

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<v Speaker 7>that encourages people to go and do things like we

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<v Speaker 7>saw today.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this particular.

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<v Speaker 7>Ryan Routh's ruth. Have you want to pronounce his name?

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<v Speaker 7>Probably doesn't really matter at this point. He's clearly a

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<v Speaker 7>nutter and he was found before he was actually able

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<v Speaker 7>to do it any potential damage to Donald Trump, and

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<v Speaker 7>thank God for that. But it raises the question how

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<v Speaker 7>on earth, once again was someone able to get that

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<v Speaker 7>close to the potential next president of the United States.

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<v Speaker 7>Former President of the United States. Trump was at his

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<v Speaker 7>golf course at to West Palm Beach in Florida. He

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<v Speaker 7>was on the fifth hole. This bloke was stationed at

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<v Speaker 7>the sixth hole. It was only because a member of

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<v Speaker 7>the Secret Service saw the gun pointing out between some

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<v Speaker 7>shrubs of offense and fired a shot at him that

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<v Speaker 7>this bloke then ran off.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly how brave he was.

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<v Speaker 7>But how was the whole place not scoped out until

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<v Speaker 7>he was one hole before he got there. Well, the

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<v Speaker 7>local sheriff says, well, he's not the president, why would

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<v Speaker 7>you expect there to be security.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, you've got to understand. The golf course is surrounded

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<v Speaker 8>by shrubbery, so when somebody gets into the shrubbery, they're

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<v Speaker 8>pretty much out of saint And at this level that

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<v Speaker 8>he is at right now, he's not the city president.

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<v Speaker 8>If he was, we would have had higher a golf

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<v Speaker 8>course around it. Well, because he's not, the security is

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<v Speaker 8>limited to the areas that the Secret Service deems possible.

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<v Speaker 8>So I would imagine that the next time becomes at

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<v Speaker 8>a golf course, there'll probably be a little bit more

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<v Speaker 8>people around the perimeter.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's good. Next time there'll be a bit carese security.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe they would have thought after nine weeks ago, when

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<v Speaker 7>he was shot at in Pennsylvania, perhaps now would be

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<v Speaker 7>the time to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>This was the next time.

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<v Speaker 7>For heaven's sake, how far behind the eight ball can

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<v Speaker 7>these people possibly be? And I sort of hadn't thought

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<v Speaker 7>about this in depth since Pennsylvania, but when I heard

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<v Speaker 7>this today, I started to have the thought that, particularly

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<v Speaker 7>if he becomes president, I suspect he's not going to

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<v Speaker 7>die of natural causes. He's going to die because someone

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<v Speaker 7>kills him. If this is it got this close a

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<v Speaker 7>second time round to him being shot at, I'm almost

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<v Speaker 7>convinced that at some point Donald Trump is going to

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<v Speaker 7>be struck more severely than he was in the year

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<v Speaker 7>or or he's going to be killed.

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<v Speaker 1>It is that bad. People are that mad in America

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<v Speaker 1>right now?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And it begs the question, how did this guy

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<v Speaker 5>do it? Much like the first attempt on Trump's life?

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<v Speaker 5>How did he do it without inside knowledge? How did

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<v Speaker 5>he do it without inside help? We now know that

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<v Speaker 5>it was a last minute decision for Trump to go

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<v Speaker 5>to the golf course that day, So it's not like

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<v Speaker 5>this guy could have availed himself and just thought, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 5>got the inside scoop Trump's going to be on the

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<v Speaker 5>golf course.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 5>No, it was a last minute decision. Trump decided to

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<v Speaker 5>take himself for around and this guy just happened to

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<v Speaker 5>be at the right part of the golf course at

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<v Speaker 5>the right time. Keep in mind, we're talking about a

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<v Speaker 5>massive golf course, over two hundred acres of wide open spaces.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyone who's been to a golf course knows is wide

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<v Speaker 5>open planes except for the shrubs and trees over here,

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<v Speaker 5>a bit of a waterway over there. What was this

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<v Speaker 5>guy just running around the golf course, taking undercover in

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<v Speaker 5>this bush, running to the next lot until you get

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<v Speaker 5>within yards of the most assassinatable that's a word as

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<v Speaker 5>of now men on the planet currently, How was this possible? Now,

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<v Speaker 5>speaking to motive, we know now from this guy's background

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<v Speaker 5>that he was a massive Ukraine enthusiast. Check Out this

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<v Speaker 5>article will excerpt from an article from the New York

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<v Speaker 5>Times written just last year, in which he was telling them,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm trying to recruit people in Afghanistan who have fled

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<v Speaker 5>the Taliban. I'm trying to recruit them and get them

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<v Speaker 5>to come to Ukraine to fight. He even said we

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<v Speaker 5>can probably purchase some passports through Pakistan since it's such

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<v Speaker 5>a corrupt country. So what he was saying that he

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<v Speaker 5>was doing wasn't even legal. Yet he was so passionate

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<v Speaker 5>about this particular war he was willing to go to

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<v Speaker 5>such ends. Check out this tweet of February twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 5>he said, I Am willing to fly to Ukraine and

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<v Speaker 5>die for its people, and every run around the globe

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<v Speaker 5>should do the same.

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<v Speaker 9>Calmon people.

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<v Speaker 5>His social media is full of this kind of psychotic

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<v Speaker 5>pro Ukraine messaging, and so it stands to reason this

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<v Speaker 5>may well have been one of his big motivators.

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<v Speaker 9>Obviously, this is just speculation at this.

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<v Speaker 5>Point in taking Trump out, because Trump has said repeatedly

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<v Speaker 5>if I'm elected, I won't even wait until my inauguration.

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<v Speaker 9>This war will be over.

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<v Speaker 5>So anyone who wants to keep this war going is

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<v Speaker 5>going to one to take him out.

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<v Speaker 7>Well that this goes to the point around the rhetoric, right,

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<v Speaker 7>So he previously he's a registered Democrat. By the way,

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<v Speaker 7>this bloke he's previously tweeted his mild support for Trump

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<v Speaker 7>that then started moving in recent years. In one tweet,

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<v Speaker 7>he says, tweeting to the President, your campaign should be

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<v Speaker 7>called something likedaf keep America democratic and free. Trump should BEMSA,

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<v Speaker 7>make Americans slaves again, master democracies on the ballot, and

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<v Speaker 7>we cannot lose. We cannot afford to fail. The world

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<v Speaker 7>is counting on us to show the way. And we

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<v Speaker 7>know that some people have tried to whip up this

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<v Speaker 7>idea that Trump is somehow in Putin's pocket, that Trump

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<v Speaker 7>tried to encourage Putin to invade Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that's not true.

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<v Speaker 7>Trump has said his first order of business would be

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<v Speaker 7>to end the war. He's made no secret about that.

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<v Speaker 7>But the inflammatory rhetoric not from the Republicans, as the

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<v Speaker 7>left keep trying to say, the inflammatory rhetoric by the

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<v Speaker 7>left against Donald Trump. In cases like this, you'd have

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<v Speaker 7>to ask the question, would that encourage someone to go

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<v Speaker 7>and attack You say, well, Donald Trump's the.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, he's in Russia's pocket.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, if you are that interested in that war. And

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<v Speaker 7>he's previously talked about how important this is about going there.

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<v Speaker 7>He was interviewed by Newsweek about going over there and

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<v Speaker 7>sending people over there. Pay attention to his hair, by

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<v Speaker 7>the way, to'll give you an indication of how crazy

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<v Speaker 7>this bloke is.

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<v Speaker 8>To me.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, a lot of the other conflicts are gray,

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<v Speaker 10>but this conflict is definitely black and white. This is

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<v Speaker 10>about good versus evil. This is a storybook, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>any movie we've ever watched. This is definitely evil against good.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean we're bowling a situation here where you know,

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<v Speaker 10>the Ukrainians and the rest of the world are caring

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<v Speaker 10>and kind and generous and unselfish and take care of

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<v Speaker 10>one another, and it's just a matter of, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>we need to stand up for that. That is the

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<v Speaker 10>most important thing.

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<v Speaker 3>In the world.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, he should be locked up for that die

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<v Speaker 7>job alone, I think. But if he is that red

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<v Speaker 7>hot on this particular issue and he has POTENTI actually

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<v Speaker 7>being convinced that Trump is the Antichrist when it comes

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<v Speaker 7>to things like this. That's what eventually motivates crazy people

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<v Speaker 7>to try and take the life of a former president

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<v Speaker 7>and potential future president. They cannot escape that the left

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<v Speaker 7>in America cannot escape that it is their rhetoric that

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<v Speaker 7>leads to events like this.

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<v Speaker 2>The tweet that you read, which he posted on April

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two, so not that long ago, and he said

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<v Speaker 2>democracy is on the ballot, which is exactly aping words

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<v Speaker 2>we've heard from Kamala Harris and friends. And remember after

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<v Speaker 2>the first assassination attempt, the Democrats held their convention, but

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<v Speaker 2>they continued to repeat these things, that the future of

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<v Speaker 2>America was at stake, that Trump was a threat to democracy.

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<v Speaker 2>Even during the debate just a few days ago, Kamala

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<v Speaker 2>Harris repeated in Sinday lies about Trump that he said

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<v Speaker 2>he would be a dictator, that he had threatened a

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<v Speaker 2>blood bath if he lost the election, that he thought

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<v Speaker 2>Neo Nazis were fine people. And then of course you've

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<v Speaker 2>got celebrities on the left like the band member Kyle

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<v Speaker 2>Gas from Tenacious D, who was here in Australia only

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<v Speaker 2>recently and said for his birthday he hoped that next

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<v Speaker 2>time they don't miss a shot at Trump. And so

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<v Speaker 2>should we really be surprised that here we are sixty

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<v Speaker 2>three days I think since the last attempt on Trump's life,

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<v Speaker 2>there's been another one, and we've still got about fifty

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<v Speaker 2>days to go until the next election. It's almost not

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<v Speaker 2>a question of who will win in November, but who'll

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<v Speaker 2>still be alive?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, who'll still be standing.

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<v Speaker 5>But can you imagine if this had been an attempt

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<v Speaker 5>on Kamala Harris, how much more so the media would

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<v Speaker 5>be streaming from the rooftops. I mean, in this instant

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<v Speaker 5>it hasn't been given half as much coverage because of

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<v Speaker 5>course it wasn't half as spectacular as a live rally,

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<v Speaker 5>and he did actually get shot, but it was just

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<v Speaker 5>his ear and he had fallen down. He'd just fallen

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<v Speaker 5>down for hours and hours. The mainstream media has simply

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<v Speaker 5>told us, well, he's fallen down. We don't know much else,

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<v Speaker 5>And of course we saw in the following days it

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<v Speaker 5>was just pure obfiscation from the Secret Service, from the FBI,

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<v Speaker 5>from everybody else involved. Thankfully, Governor DeSantis, the governor in Florida,

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<v Speaker 5>has said that the state will be carrying out its

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<v Speaker 5>own investigation in this instance as to how on earth

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<v Speaker 5>this could have taken place. So it will be really

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<v Speaker 5>interesting to see what the Secret Service and everybody else

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<v Speaker 5>comes up with versus what DeSantis's own team will come

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<v Speaker 5>up with. Although those who have bad blood right now,

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<v Speaker 5>but I'm sure he'll do a good job.

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<v Speaker 9>He's a very good governor.

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<v Speaker 5>But the big question is how long until the next

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<v Speaker 5>attempt on Trump's life when mainstream media still insists on platforming.

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<v Speaker 5>Like Claire mccaskell, here's what she had to say, and

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<v Speaker 5>then you wonder why people like this shooter take it

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<v Speaker 5>upon themselves to eliminate the problem. A lot of people

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<v Speaker 5>have tried to draw similarities between Mussolini and Hitler and

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<v Speaker 5>the use of the terminology like vermin and the drive

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<v Speaker 5>that those men had towards autocracy and dictatorship.

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<v Speaker 9>The difference, though, I think McDonald Trump even more dangerous,

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<v Speaker 9>and that is he has.

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<v Speaker 3>No philosophy he believes in.

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<v Speaker 9>He is not trying to expand the boundaries in.

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<v Speaker 3>The United States of America.

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<v Speaker 5>He's not trying to overcome a neighboring country like Putin

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<v Speaker 5>is in Ukraine. He is not going for some grandiose

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<v Speaker 5>scheme of international dominance. All he wants is to look

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<v Speaker 5>in the mirror and see a guy who's president. And

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<v Speaker 5>even after this second attempt on Trump's life, the teen

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<v Speaker 5>Trump is still putting up with much the same from

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<v Speaker 5>mainstream media. Here was jd Vance talking to CNN, just

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<v Speaker 5>trying to get a wood in edge wise and pointing

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<v Speaker 5>out the vast dichotomy between how CNN talks to people

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<v Speaker 5>from the Trump sorry, the Harris campaign, as opposed to

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<v Speaker 5>the Trump campaign like himself.

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<v Speaker 11>It's I feel Danna, and they're telling me this stuff

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<v Speaker 11>is happening. Dana, would you like to ask me questions

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<v Speaker 11>and then let me answer them, or would you like

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<v Speaker 11>to debate me on these topics? I noticed that when

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<v Speaker 11>you had Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz, you gave them

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<v Speaker 11>multiple choice answers to the questions that you asked, and

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<v Speaker 11>you allowed them.

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<v Speaker 3>To answer the questions.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm happy to hear to be here to talk about policy,

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<v Speaker 11>but if you're going to interrupt me every single time

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<v Speaker 11>that I open my mouth, then why am I even

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<v Speaker 11>doing this? So please ask a question, and I'd ask

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<v Speaker 11>you to be polite.

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<v Speaker 3>Enough to let me answer.

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<v Speaker 5>I just love it when they take these hosts to

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<v Speaker 5>task and say everyone can see what you're doing. Why

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<v Speaker 5>do you treat me so differently? And also why do

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<v Speaker 5>you even have me on if I'm not allowed to

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<v Speaker 5>ask the questions that I'm here to answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the assassins, but JD Evans did not miss at all.

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<v Speaker 2>She required medical attention after that interview. But this is

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<v Speaker 2>a thing with conservative politicians. You've got to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to handle an adversarial media. Otherwise just forget about going

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<v Speaker 2>into politics. I like the way he pulled her up,

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<v Speaker 2>but he did it very politely. Yes, he did it

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<v Speaker 2>as a gentleman, and you can see why Trump was

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<v Speaker 2>keen for him to be the running mate. I cannot

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<v Speaker 2>wait for the vice presidential debate because Tim Woltz, who

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<v Speaker 2>I know will get to in just a moment, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think is going to be any match for jd.

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<v Speaker 7>Van. Well, that's it, get him on a debate stage.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, you know, we watched the debate last week

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<v Speaker 7>between Trump and Harris. Harris of course, has subsequently called

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<v Speaker 7>for a second debate. Something tells me there won't be

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<v Speaker 7>a second debate because Harris needs it a lot more

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<v Speaker 7>than Trump does, because she really needs to prove herself

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<v Speaker 7>in that sort of situation. But you put him on

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<v Speaker 7>stage with Tim Waltz and he will absolutely wipe the

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<v Speaker 7>floor with him. This is the reason that Trump chose

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<v Speaker 7>Jdevans because he such a good public speaker. He can

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<v Speaker 7>demolish someone like Dana Bash there, who of course interviewed

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<v Speaker 7>Kamala Harris, as he mentioned in that clip there, and

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<v Speaker 7>we all saw that interview that where she had Tim

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<v Speaker 7>Waltz there holding her hand for all of twenty six minutes.

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<v Speaker 7>It was such a softball interview. He's saying, look how

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<v Speaker 7>about some equality here? And speaking of Tim Waalts, he

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<v Speaker 7>was at a rally on the weekend and well, he's

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<v Speaker 7>got a great way he's worked out how they're going

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<v Speaker 7>to win the election by harassing people at the supermarket.

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<v Speaker 12>This thing's going to be a battle for the next

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<v Speaker 12>fifty two days.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to be in rooms, one in rooms just

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<v Speaker 3>like this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be one.

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<v Speaker 12>Door to door, call the call five dollars donation, trying

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<v Speaker 12>to have that hard conversation in the produce aisle with

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<v Speaker 12>the person you saw there at the grocery store and

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<v Speaker 12>ask have you voted yet?

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<v Speaker 7>Look, I don't know, I might be an outlier, but

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<v Speaker 7>if I am at the supermarket on a set doing

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<v Speaker 7>my shopping and someone comes up to me and goes,

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<v Speaker 7>have you voted yet? Are you going to vote for

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<v Speaker 7>Kamala Harris, I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Walk out there and go vote for Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 7>Like there is nothing that would turn me off more

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<v Speaker 7>than being told in the supermarket when I'm just going

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<v Speaker 7>about my business, have you voted yet.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a terrible strategy by Democrats because if you're

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<v Speaker 2>at the grocery store and you say have you considered

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<v Speaker 2>voting for Democrats?

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<v Speaker 3>People will just look at the prices on the shelves

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<v Speaker 3>and think I am totally voting for Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>There's only one thing worse than being costed by Tim

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<v Speaker 2>Waltz at the supermarket, and that's being accosted by his wife.

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<v Speaker 3>Gwen.

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<v Speaker 2>You think Kamala Harris is weird. We take a look

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<v Speaker 2>at the vice president's or the potential vice president's wife.

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<v Speaker 3>She is off the Rickles scale.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, so I he should be with me and practice

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<v Speaker 9>with me.

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<v Speaker 1>What are we gonna do.

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<v Speaker 9>We're gonna turn the pay. Oh, pretty good, Jordan.

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<v Speaker 5>Again, We're gonna turn the pay and we're going up

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<v Speaker 5>turn the pay. All right, col I'm gonna be watching

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<v Speaker 5>you because when I see Wisconsin and I'm one to

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<v Speaker 5>watching National.

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<v Speaker 9>And TV because it's in pretty important place in Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 9>Help you practice it with this.

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<v Speaker 3>You just show me this.

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<v Speaker 9>Turn the page.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, turn the page, and you know what else that

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<v Speaker 1>looks like?

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<v Speaker 9>Bye bye, bye bye Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>We are turning the page fifty two days and we

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<v Speaker 3>are turn the bay fifty two days.

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<v Speaker 9>Bye bye, Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>I just love watching Tim Wiltzson the background.

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<v Speaker 2>He's looking at his wife like when I married you,

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea I'd be running for VP. And

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<v Speaker 2>if I had known, maybe I would have chosen differently.

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<v Speaker 5>And this is the same woman who said that during

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<v Speaker 5>the BLM riot she opened the she could smell the

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<v Speaker 5>chaos outside and how awesome it was, and everyone was

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<v Speaker 5>like getting seriously weird.

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<v Speaker 9>Vibes from this woman.

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<v Speaker 5>Who does that to a local issue now in Queensland.

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<v Speaker 4>Which surprisingly the media.

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<v Speaker 5>Didn't really mention a week ago when Queensland Parliament because

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<v Speaker 5>they know they're running out of time.

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<v Speaker 9>It's soon that.

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<v Speaker 5>We're all going to the ballot box if you're in Queensland,

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<v Speaker 5>and it is probably most likely goodbye to a labor

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<v Speaker 5>government for the first time in a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>So it shall I put you up for a second.

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<v Speaker 7>It's not goodbye, it's bye bye, miles, bye bye.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, carry off.

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<v Speaker 9>They've rammed through this bill called it always sounds very innocuous.

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<v Speaker 5>It's called Respect at Work in Other Matters Amendment Bill. Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>who doesn't want respect at work? We all want respect

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<v Speaker 5>at work, don't we get this? This is One Nation

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<v Speaker 5>candidate Nick Moire actually explaining what this new bill will

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<v Speaker 5>mean coming into effect next July.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, this is a very dark day in Australia's history,

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<v Speaker 13>ladist and gentlemen, because this week the Respected Work and

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<v Speaker 13>Other Matter's Amendment Bill twenty twenty four was passed in

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<v Speaker 13>Queensland Parliament.

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<v Speaker 3>Or what does this mean for you?

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<v Speaker 13>Well, from now on we're going to have to police

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<v Speaker 13>our thoughts and our speech very carefully on social media.

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<v Speaker 13>And here is why. Any post made on social media

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<v Speaker 13>now is deemed by this bill to be a public act,

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<v Speaker 13>and any public act found offensive by a reasonable person

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<v Speaker 13>of the minority community that it describes is then chargeable

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<v Speaker 13>under section fifty two A of the Criminal Code. And

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<v Speaker 13>these charges carry a maximum sentence of three years jail time.

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<v Speaker 13>So as you can see, it's not hyperble to say

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<v Speaker 13>that this bill paves the way for Queensland citizens to

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<v Speaker 13>serve jail time for social media posts that offend minorities.

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<v Speaker 13>This bill is the most egregious encroachment of freedom of

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<v Speaker 13>speech that I have ever seen in Australia, and we're

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<v Speaker 13>still This is a piece of legislation that is self protecting.

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<v Speaker 5>This is social engineering, legislation that, in ever to belie,

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<v Speaker 5>absolutely trashes the rights of the individual to simply say

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<v Speaker 5>what they believe, post what they believe, express their thoughts.

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<v Speaker 9>And feelings without worrying.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, if this offends someone, I'm in big trouble. Up

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<v Speaker 5>to three years in jail for offending someone.

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<v Speaker 9>This also ups the ante.

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<v Speaker 5>On employers because the onus is now on them not

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<v Speaker 5>to punish discrimination if it happens, but to prevent it

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<v Speaker 5>from happening in.

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<v Speaker 3>The first place.

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<v Speaker 9>How is this even possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's two major flaws in their thinking right. The

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<v Speaker 2>first is they believe that they can somehow eliminate any

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<v Speaker 2>offense and create a world where no one is ever offended.

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<v Speaker 2>I prefer that when we believed in religion, and we

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<v Speaker 2>believe that one day in the hereafter, God.

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<v Speaker 3>Will perfect everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Once you get rid of religion, then you get governments

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<v Speaker 2>who believe they can perfect everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Now it's impossible.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a fantasy to have a world in which no

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<v Speaker 2>one is ever offended.

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<v Speaker 3>In the second floor.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that it's desirable when you get offended you can

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<v Speaker 2>run off to the state government and have a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a cry and a sook and say, well, Caleb

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<v Speaker 2>said something mean to me and I'm offended, and the

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<v Speaker 2>government to go to war on your behalf. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>ridiculous sort of idea. And the other strange thing about

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<v Speaker 2>this legislation is it's not just if you offend a person,

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<v Speaker 2>it's if you offend a group. So I could say

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<v Speaker 2>something to you that you are not offended by. But

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<v Speaker 2>somebody else who's part of your identity group, whether they're

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<v Speaker 2>a female or whether they belong to whatever other group

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<v Speaker 2>you identify as part of. Though you haven't been offended

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<v Speaker 2>by what I said to you, they could be offended

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<v Speaker 2>because they identify as part of your group, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a ridiculous breach of common sense, not to mention civil liberties.

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<v Speaker 7>And it's the pernicious nature in which they introduce this

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<v Speaker 7>kind of legislation, So it's buried in, as you said before,

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<v Speaker 7>the whatever it's called, you know, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Other matters, and.

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<v Speaker 7>This is the other matter we're talking about here, reach

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<v Speaker 7>and they are the most onerous workplace discrimination laws in

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<v Speaker 7>the country. They go further than any piece of federal legislation.

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<v Speaker 7>They go further than any other states legislation in putting

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<v Speaker 7>the onus on the workplace to stop discrimination before it happens. Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>so what you know the copp is now I'm just

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<v Speaker 7>you know, broading this out from the workplace. But we

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<v Speaker 7>now expecting the cops to go and knock on everyone's

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<v Speaker 7>Excuse me, sir, are you likely to commit a crime today.

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<v Speaker 7>I just want to check in before I have to

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<v Speaker 7>come and arrest you later.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to know now. I mean, how is

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<v Speaker 1>an employer.

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<v Speaker 7>Meant to know wh a member of staff is going

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<v Speaker 7>to do something that may or may not be discriminatory.

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<v Speaker 7>But they hide stuff like this in legislation like that

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<v Speaker 7>so that you don't notice that it's going on, which

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<v Speaker 7>is why we're talking about it six days. This was

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<v Speaker 7>passed on the tenth of Syptem. We're talking about it

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<v Speaker 7>now six days after the fact because we hadn't heard

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<v Speaker 7>that this was happening. I mean, you know, we're doing

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<v Speaker 7>a national news program here, so we can't be across

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<v Speaker 7>absolutely everything. You would have expected that the media in

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<v Speaker 7>Queensland would have been right on top of something like this.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, it took us nearly a week to hear

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<v Speaker 1>that this has happened.

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<v Speaker 7>And that's why we're talking about it tonight. And it

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<v Speaker 7>was only last week that the federal government not only

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<v Speaker 7>introduced its own misinformation disinformation laws, it introduced water down

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<v Speaker 7>hate speech laws.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, originally that was.

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<v Speaker 7>Going to be that if you offended someone or committed

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<v Speaker 7>hate speech quote unquote on the basis of not just race,

0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:34.040
<v Speaker 7>but religion, sexuality, disability, a whole cast of things that

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<v Speaker 7>you would have been up before the court. We just

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<v Speaker 7>dodged that bullet. And I wrote in the Advertiser last week,

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<v Speaker 7>thank god we dodged that bullet.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is not going to be the end of it.

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<v Speaker 7>Well I needn't have worried about having to wait a

0:24:46.920 --> 0:24:48.840
<v Speaker 7>few months for this to come up again. It was

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:51.920
<v Speaker 7>literally happening last week. If the federal government can't do it,

0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:54.639
<v Speaker 7>the states are going to do it. This is why

0:24:54.680 --> 0:24:58.200
<v Speaker 7>the culture wars matter. If they ain't going to stop

0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:02.000
<v Speaker 7>until they have banned anyone from saying anything. It's about

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<v Speaker 7>redefining truth ultimately, well.

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<v Speaker 5>On a creepy way in which they do this, as

0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:09.280
<v Speaker 5>if Queenslanders would have thrown their weight behind this, and

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:13.280
<v Speaker 5>if Queenslanders would have voted for this, But no sneak

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<v Speaker 5>it in, no media coverage, nobody even knows it's happened.

0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 5>They'll just be hit with it come July next year

0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:23.280
<v Speaker 5>when these laws come into effect. It was Noam Chomsky

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:25.639
<v Speaker 5>who once said, and I know that he's a massive lefty,

0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:28.879
<v Speaker 5>but he had some brilliant things to say. He was

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<v Speaker 5>saying that the best way to keep people passive, to

0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:33.440
<v Speaker 5>keep them silent.

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:39.200
<v Speaker 4>Is to severely restrict the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but

0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:44.080
<v Speaker 4>very smartly you allow robust debate within that spectrum, thereby

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:48.760
<v Speaker 4>giving people like us the impression that there's three thinking happening.

0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:50.160
<v Speaker 9>There's debate happening.

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, the spectrum is very much restricted. So people think, oh,

0:25:55.760 --> 0:25:58.800
<v Speaker 5>we have freedom of speech here, there's debate happening.

0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:01.199
<v Speaker 9>This isn't China, this isn't Russia.

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<v Speaker 5>But I would argue that the propaganda that goes on

0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:09.639
<v Speaker 5>the restriction on free speech in Western countries is almost

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<v Speaker 5>worse because we do have this idea that no, no,

0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:17.800
<v Speaker 5>it's not happening here. That's something that happens under dictatorships.

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:23.240
<v Speaker 5>But really that debate that you're watching is simply reinforcing

0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:26.600
<v Speaker 5>the presuppositions of the system one way or another.

0:26:26.680 --> 0:26:29.160
<v Speaker 9>But it's all pointing in the same direction.

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<v Speaker 5>Who among us in our daily lives isn't already self censoring?

0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:37.119
<v Speaker 5>You would catch yourself doing it all the time if

0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 5>you're paying attention to the wheels of your mind every

0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:44.200
<v Speaker 5>time you're like, can't say that, I hope nobody overheard

0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 5>that conversation that I'm just having with a friend at

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:51.960
<v Speaker 5>a cafe because that was socially unacceptable. It's just unbelievable

0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:55.760
<v Speaker 5>how this is crept in year after year and now

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:59.920
<v Speaker 5>bill after bill right under people's noses without them even knowing.

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:02.000
<v Speaker 3>And when you say it's crept in a year after year.

0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:04.960
<v Speaker 2>I remember, back in two thousand and four, this is

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:08.120
<v Speaker 2>twenty years ago, there was a Tri Lankan born preacher

0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:11.240
<v Speaker 2>in Melbourne, Danny Nyler, who was doing a seminar for

0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:14.960
<v Speaker 2>Christians in his church and he was comparing Christianity with

0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 2>Islam and he read from the Qoran. He just read

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:20.440
<v Speaker 2>it and people started laughing because the part he read,

0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 2>obviously they thought it sounded ridiculous. And he was hauled

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:29.440
<v Speaker 2>before an anti discrimination tribunal for ridiculing Islam. And all

0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:31.359
<v Speaker 2>he did was he didn't tell a joke, he wasn't

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:34.399
<v Speaker 2>putting on funny voices. He simply read from the Koran.

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:38.639
<v Speaker 2>And the commissioner actually asked him, did you intend for

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 2>people to laugh or did you know that people were

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:43.320
<v Speaker 2>going to laugh? And he said, how can I be

0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 2>responsible for the responses of other people when I simply

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:48.679
<v Speaker 2>read from a religious text.

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:50.119
<v Speaker 3>Now that was twenty years ago.

0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:54.119
<v Speaker 2>It was ridiculous then, it's still ridiculous today, and yet

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 2>the government continued to push these things. I imagine, however,

0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:01.120
<v Speaker 2>Anthony Albanezi might like these law because he'll go and

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:05.119
<v Speaker 2>complain that he's being bullied by Elon Musk. Elon Musk,

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:09.359
<v Speaker 2>of course, posted on x that the Labor federal government

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:12.639
<v Speaker 2>were a bunch of fascists. Elon Musk commenting on the

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 2>government's planned Misinformation and Disinformation Bill. In response to that,

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 2>Anthony Albanese said, well, if Musk thinks that we're fascists,

0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:23.919
<v Speaker 2>says more about Musk than it does about us, and

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:29.400
<v Speaker 2>so Elon Musk doubled down, tweeting far left fascists love censorship,

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:33.400
<v Speaker 2>and so today Anthony Elbanezi continued the fight, coming out

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 2>with this statement. He said, Australians don't give in to bullies,

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:40.960
<v Speaker 2>or I hope Anthony Alberze goes to Queensland and complains

0:28:40.960 --> 0:28:43.720
<v Speaker 2>and someone does something to protect his feelings. These tech

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 2>comphanies think they're above national sovereignty. I've got to stop

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 2>for a second, Caleb and Liz, is that Anthony Alberaneze

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:54.320
<v Speaker 2>talking about the importance of national sovereignty speechless I didn't

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 2>know he had heard of such a term.

0:28:56.440 --> 0:28:58.200
<v Speaker 9>Need to come to Jesus moment.

0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 3>Clearly zero sovereignty Paris agreement. Who knew they think?

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:06.239
<v Speaker 2>He continued that digital platforms should have more power than

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 2>citizens do. Funny thing Albanese is trying to take away

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 2>our power as citizens to say what we think.

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 3>He continued.

0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 2>We're taking action to protect kids, that little chestnut and

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 2>protect Australians and that is what people want. It's amazing

0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 2>And I know, Liza, you've been big on this. How

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 2>Anthony Albanezi keeps conflating to I think separate issues but

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 2>they are merging into one. The arbitrary age limit for

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 2>kids to sign up to social media and policing misinformation

0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 2>and disinformation online.

0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:40.880
<v Speaker 3>He was interviewed today and he was.

0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 2>Talking about protecting kids. That's why we need an age

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 2>restriction on social media accounts and he said, because they've

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:54.680
<v Speaker 2>got to be protected from eating disorders, okay, normalizing misogyny. Yeah,

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 2>and then he said, and undermining social cohesion. Do you

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 2>think that many parents are worried about their twelve year

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 2>old opening a Facebook account because they're thinking, oh, this

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 2>is not going to be good for their part in

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:10.960
<v Speaker 2>social cohesion. He's conflating two things, which goes to something

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 2>you've been saying for a while, the push to why

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 2>are you smiling at me? You think I'm a Johnny company.

0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 2>I think two things can be true at the same time.

0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 2>But the fact he keeps conflating the two does make

0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:29.520
<v Speaker 2>you very suspicious that the push to protect kids is

0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 2>really about demonizing the big tech company so he can

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 2>ram through his misinformation and disinformation bill.

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:40.960
<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, it is genuinely terrifying to watch our government straight

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 5>face while they've got their hate law speech that they're

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 5>trying to convince everyone is very, very necessary. Meanwhile, we

0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 5>all know that hate speech is free speech and it

0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 5>just depends on the moderator, and none of us trust

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 5>the government to be the moderator. They've got their hate

0:30:56.520 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 5>speech laws, their misinformation disinformation laws, trying to crack down

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 5>on these platforms by any means that they can possibly harness,

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:08.640
<v Speaker 5>including oh, we're doing this for the safety and protection

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:12.240
<v Speaker 5>of children. Really, you've known that this has been so

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:17.240
<v Speaker 5>detrimental for children ever since the two existed in tandem,

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 5>but it was only until just a few weeks after

0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 5>you passed your Digital ID bill aha that it became

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 5>front page news every day, relentlessly.

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:32.760
<v Speaker 9>We must protect the youth. We must protect the youth.

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 5>Their agenda has never been more transparent. We've also got

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:42.080
<v Speaker 5>our e Safety Commissioner embarrassing us on the world stage,

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 5>trying to take to task these tech giants.

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 9>None of us surely actually believe.

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 5>That the government has Australian's best interests in heart.

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 9>They are all about.

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 5>Controlling the narrative, because if you can't control the narrative,

0:31:58.160 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 5>you can't control the people.

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:01.480
<v Speaker 9>And it's just completely out of control.

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:05.719
<v Speaker 5>If we can have freethinking people freely exchanging information and

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 5>sharing their thoughts and feelings online, that is a danger

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:11.640
<v Speaker 5>to democracy.

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 7>And that's why the social media age restriction came up

0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:15.920
<v Speaker 7>last week.

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 1>So this idea has been floating around for a while.

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:21.240
<v Speaker 7>It had been a campaign by News Corp. Dutton had

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 7>got on board with the idea months ago. Albanize comes

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:27.320
<v Speaker 7>out last week and says, sure, Okay, well we're going

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 7>to do it now.

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't have an age yet that I'm going to

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 1>set it by.

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:33.080
<v Speaker 7>The trial that we're going to do for this thing

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 7>hasn't even started yet, but I'm somehow going to have

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:38.200
<v Speaker 7>this thing ready to go by the end of the year,

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:40.960
<v Speaker 7>because of course last week he had the hate Speech

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:44.479
<v Speaker 7>Bill came up and the Misinformation Disinformation Bill come up,

0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 7>and so he knows, as do we all, that the

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 7>idea of restricting children from social media is a popular policy,

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 7>but he needs something to get the other two through,

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 7>or almost sneak the other two through along with And

0:32:57.640 --> 0:33:00.360
<v Speaker 7>so the conflation that we've just talked about if you

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 7>build them or meld them all into one and say well,

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:05.440
<v Speaker 7>this all has to be done in one shot here,

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 7>because it's all about protection, whether it's protection of the

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 7>kids or protection of you from misinformation which is just

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:13.720
<v Speaker 7>stuff that the government doesn't want you to read. That

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:16.560
<v Speaker 7>is what he is going to use to ram it through.

0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 7>Going back to a previous point, we have to defend

0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 7>our right to offend. Let's go to some craziness in

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:26.840
<v Speaker 7>the green world. Now we love bringing you these stories

0:33:26.880 --> 0:33:29.920
<v Speaker 7>and yet another one. Now we know that if there

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 7>is a hung Parliament at the next federal election, which

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 7>is likely to be early next year, the Greens has

0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 7>a list of demands for the federal government the Labor

0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 7>government if they want to get back into power, including

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:43.840
<v Speaker 7>a bunch of crazy stuff about what they need to

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 7>do in terms of renewables and energy. One of the

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 7>things they want is a total ban on gas will

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 7>Australian Energy Producers has produced a report sorry telling us

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:57.080
<v Speaker 7>exactly what that would do to the country. They say

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<v Speaker 7>within a decade, most industrial demand would go i met

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 7>and most industrial gas users would likely cease operations due

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 7>to a lack of alternative energy sources. And in the

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 7>longer term there would be significant disruption and potentially shortfalls

0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 7>for residential and commercial gas users if this came into being,

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:18.239
<v Speaker 7>and the government would have to think long and hard

0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 7>about these policies if they want to retain government in

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:25.040
<v Speaker 7>a minority situation. We could be having blackouts across the

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:28.719
<v Speaker 7>instant sea board within two years. How many times have

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:32.160
<v Speaker 7>we warned you about potential blackouts because of a lack

0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 7>of energy in this country. The Greens would only further that,

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:38.360
<v Speaker 7>But they're getting a dose in Queensland already of what

0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 7>happens when you rely too much on renewable energy and

0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 7>you don't have enough power. You've got to get it

0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 7>from somewhere, right, So they're currently building a big water

0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 7>pipeline between Fitzroy and Gladstone, ostensibly so they can get

0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 7>all this water to Gladstone to be used in green

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 7>hydrogen projects that are being backed by big investors like

0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 7>Twiky Forest. That sounds great, We're gonna get all this

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 7>renewable green energy out of hydrogen. How do you think

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 7>they're going to power the works to build this pipeline

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:13.840
<v Speaker 7>diesel generators? Yes, of course, because they don't have enough

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:15.720
<v Speaker 7>power to do the thing.

0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Time and time again.

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:19.799
<v Speaker 7>In order to make this stuff work, the renewable dream

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:23.800
<v Speaker 7>days to work, you've got to use dirty power, diesel

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 7>being some of the dirtiest power you can get your

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:29.120
<v Speaker 7>hands on. And it reminds me remember when South Australia

0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:32.120
<v Speaker 7>was plunged into a total blackout back in twenty sixteen,

0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:35.800
<v Speaker 7>I think it was twenty sixteen seventeen, and then Jay Weatherill,

0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:38.200
<v Speaker 7>who was Premier at the time, rushed off to Elon

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:40.800
<v Speaker 7>Musk and said, we need to build a big battery

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:43.719
<v Speaker 7>in the outback in South Australia, which they did, and

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:45.880
<v Speaker 7>in the planning for how they would make up for

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:49.280
<v Speaker 7>energy shortfalls, because South Australia is mostly run on renewable energy,

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:52.560
<v Speaker 7>what did they do they when bought diesel generators.

0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 3>I mean, for heaven's sake.

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:56.799
<v Speaker 2>Well, there's problems on every side when it comes to renewables.

0:35:56.840 --> 0:35:57.680
<v Speaker 3>We'll finish with this.

0:35:57.600 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 2>Report from China where they're banning electric vehicles from underground

0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 2>car parks. Now, it's been reported that hotels have told

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 2>owners of electric vehicles they cannot park underground for safety

0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:13.920
<v Speaker 2>reasons because of course, if there's a fire, these hotels

0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:19.279
<v Speaker 2>don't have sufficient firefighting systems to contain the fires. That

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 2>there was one five star hotel that had to sign

0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:27.480
<v Speaker 2>up advising patrons park in wide open spaces, which is

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:29.880
<v Speaker 2>code for if there's a fire, we don't want you

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:33.680
<v Speaker 2>anywhere near our hotel. And it's not just hotels, Liz,

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:38.400
<v Speaker 2>but ferries in Greece now are refusing to carry evs.

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:41.120
<v Speaker 2>In Norway, there's a shipping company that will not transport

0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:45.480
<v Speaker 2>electric vehicles. There was a sixty thousand ton cargo ship

0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:47.960
<v Speaker 2>taking four hundred vehicles from Germany to.

0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:48.760
<v Speaker 3>The United States.

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:51.840
<v Speaker 2>It's sunk after vehicles started catching fire.

0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:53.480
<v Speaker 3>It's a major problem.

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:55.239
<v Speaker 2>But if you're going to buy a Tesla and go

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:58.040
<v Speaker 2>to a hotel in China, they will not allow you

0:36:58.080 --> 0:37:00.640
<v Speaker 2>to park underground because it's just too much of a risk.

0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 2>No east scooters or e bikes under the hotel either.

0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:05.960
<v Speaker 2>That's all on that.

0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:06.480
<v Speaker 3>Part of things.

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:07.799
<v Speaker 2>But we're going to go to a break and after

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:10.120
<v Speaker 2>the break come back with what's making news in the papers,

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 2>including some good news about parking.

0:37:12.400 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 3>Fins that's coming up in just a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's take a look at tomorrow's papers and Liz,

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:21.440
<v Speaker 2>we've got a good news story for us.

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:26.239
<v Speaker 5>We sho the front page of Daily Telly Sneaky councils

0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:29.360
<v Speaker 5>cop ban on ticketless parking fines.

0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:31.080
<v Speaker 3>That's the ticket.

0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:35.760
<v Speaker 5>Greedy councils will be banned from issuing sneaky ticketless parking

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:39.279
<v Speaker 5>fines as the state government steps up to stop unsuspecting

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:43.359
<v Speaker 5>drivers getting stung without the chance of disputing the penalties

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:46.200
<v Speaker 5>and a win for murtorists and common sense. New South

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:51.399
<v Speaker 5>Wales Finance Minister Courtney Whosos will legislate to effectively ban

0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:55.680
<v Speaker 5>ticketless parking fines after greedy councils raked in one hundred

0:37:55.800 --> 0:38:01.520
<v Speaker 5>and fifty five million via these in visible fines the

0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 5>last year alone. Thank goodness, common sense is prevailing. This

0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:11.520
<v Speaker 5>was always unfair and remember when Premier Min's was like,

0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:14.440
<v Speaker 5>all right, you lot cut it out. Fines have to

0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 5>be proper fines. They have to be on the windshield

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:20.480
<v Speaker 5>otherwise they didn't happen, and the council has just completely

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:21.319
<v Speaker 5>ignored him.

0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:23.399
<v Speaker 9>So legislateated is.

0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:25.160
<v Speaker 3>This is not good news for everybody.

0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:28.520
<v Speaker 2>There are council treasurers all over New South Wales thinking.

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 3>How are we going to afford those pride flags?

0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:32.239
<v Speaker 2>How are we going to pay for all those bike

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:36.120
<v Speaker 2>lanes we were counting on this revenue. So they'll be sad,

0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:38.839
<v Speaker 2>but everyone else very pleased and it's the right thing

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 2>to It's ridiculous here's going to find and have no

0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:44.200
<v Speaker 2>opportunity to dispute it at all.

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 7>Of course it's the right thing to do, but you know,

0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:47.719
<v Speaker 7>it reminds me again.

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:49.880
<v Speaker 1>I know, I bang this drum all the time.

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:55.160
<v Speaker 7>But councils only have powers because state governments give them powers,

0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 7>and so in cases like this, the state government has

0:38:58.239 --> 0:39:00.680
<v Speaker 7>to step in and till the council what they can

0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:03.759
<v Speaker 7>and can't do. I'll give you a little tip. They

0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:06.799
<v Speaker 7>wouldn't have to do that if they just abolished the

0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:11.839
<v Speaker 7>councils and subsumed all their powers, take every single one

0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:14.239
<v Speaker 7>of their powers away and it'll fix a lot of

0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 7>the problem.

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 9>Dream and the dream, Caylee.

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:18.360
<v Speaker 1>I know I am working on it.

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:20.400
<v Speaker 7>I know I could spend my whole life farting.

0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:22.879
<v Speaker 3>But here's the flaw in your plan.

0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:26.280
<v Speaker 2>Which local government minister is going to cancel all local

0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:28.400
<v Speaker 2>governments and then he's no longer in the ministry.

0:39:28.520 --> 0:39:30.719
<v Speaker 1>A brave one, A brave one.

0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:33.480
<v Speaker 7>You know. He's a local government minister who if I

0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:35.440
<v Speaker 7>had the money, I'd give him a job for life

0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:36.200
<v Speaker 7>after doing Matt.

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Let's go to the Canberra Times, where they've got a

0:39:38.440 --> 0:39:40.640
<v Speaker 2>great IT story. Now at Sky and News, our IT

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:44.719
<v Speaker 2>department a phenomenal but for many workplaces, the it are

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:48.120
<v Speaker 2>always the bane of everybody's existence. Well, Defense have got

0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:51.759
<v Speaker 2>a problem with their IT department because well they've got

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:55.240
<v Speaker 2>a fairly major cost blowout. Defense one point five billion

0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:58.759
<v Speaker 2>dollar blowout, reads their headline. A project to modernize the

0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:01.879
<v Speaker 2>back office its stems for the Department of Fence will

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:04.799
<v Speaker 2>cost a lazy one point five billion dollars more than

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 2>the upper limit of its initial budget and stretch out

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:11.520
<v Speaker 2>to twenty thirty despite the project originally scheduled to wrap.

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 3>Up by next year.

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:16.839
<v Speaker 2>So how was the IT Department at Defense doing all.

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:19.560
<v Speaker 2>Aside from being five years overtime and one point five

0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:23.320
<v Speaker 2>billion dollars over budget, they're doing pretty well. The original

0:40:23.360 --> 0:40:27.239
<v Speaker 2>cost of this project, the article says, was meant to

0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 2>be somewhere between one billion and two billion, which is

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:34.000
<v Speaker 2>quite an amazing cost estimate that seems to be to

0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:35.319
<v Speaker 2>be fairly elastic.

0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 5>How bad was it that an update is costing that much?

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:41.520
<v Speaker 9>What were you doing just shuffling papers around?

0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:43.560
<v Speaker 3>So the upper limit was two billion, it's going to

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:44.959
<v Speaker 3>be what now three point five?

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:49.560
<v Speaker 7>How does this happen? We've had a number of stories

0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 7>like this in recent weeks. Another one out of Canberra

0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:55.279
<v Speaker 7>where a government department had said some project was going

0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:57.440
<v Speaker 7>to come in under budget and then it came in

0:40:57.480 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 7>actually forty fifty million.

0:40:58.880 --> 0:40:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Dollars over budget.

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:02.840
<v Speaker 7>We had a story from the Adelaide Hills Council in

0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 7>Adelaide where they had forecast a budget surplus and then

0:41:06.600 --> 0:41:08.920
<v Speaker 7>they came back with a big deficit when they finally

0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:10.759
<v Speaker 7>got at the end of the financial year. You know,

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:13.719
<v Speaker 7>forty fifty million, You go, jeez, that's big numbers. How

0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:17.360
<v Speaker 7>do you go one and a half billion dollars over budget?

0:41:17.600 --> 0:41:19.799
<v Speaker 7>That's not just oh, we sort of got this a

0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 7>little bit wrong. That is, we got it so catastrophically

0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:27.080
<v Speaker 7>wrong that you could not imagine anyone getting something that wrong.

0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:28.160
<v Speaker 1>I set up before.

0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:31.719
<v Speaker 7>But can you imagine walking into the CEO's office at

0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 7>any private business and saying, so, you wanted an update

0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:38.359
<v Speaker 7>on the IT system upgrade? So, oh yes, yes, how's

0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:41.120
<v Speaker 7>it going. How's the budget looking? Look, it's all on track.

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 7>Don't worry about it. It's just going to be one

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:46.040
<v Speaker 7>and a half billion dollars over budget. You wouldn't have

0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 7>a job tomorrow.

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:49.520
<v Speaker 3>But in the public ser no problem, okay.

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 2>If you're describing my weekly grocery experiences.

0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:56.440
<v Speaker 7>I just don't understand how people keep getting away with it.

0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:58.040
<v Speaker 7>Will anyone be sacked?

0:41:58.320 --> 0:41:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Probably not.

0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:01.320
<v Speaker 7>I may as well go and joining the public service,

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:04.920
<v Speaker 7>have a job for life. The Australian tomorrow SOS fury

0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:08.440
<v Speaker 7>at funding for hate speech groups. Now we finally know

0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 7>what the government's the federal government's doing with all that money.

0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:13.120
<v Speaker 7>They could have given another one and a half billion

0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 7>if they hadn't been spending it on the IT Department

0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:19.560
<v Speaker 7>of Defense organizations giving a platform to figures with controversial

0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 7>views such as those that killed such as sorry, such

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:25.920
<v Speaker 7>as those killed in the October seven attack were not innocent,

0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:30.319
<v Speaker 7>have received taxpayer funding under an Albanesi government program. The

0:42:30.400 --> 0:42:35.480
<v Speaker 7>fifty million dollar Securing Faith Based Places grant program was

0:42:35.640 --> 0:42:41.360
<v Speaker 7>holsted after the October seven terror attack. Again, someone in

0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:45.439
<v Speaker 7>a government department somewhere is dolling out this money. Do

0:42:45.520 --> 0:42:47.960
<v Speaker 7>they not do their due diligence?

0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:48.759
<v Speaker 9>Clearly not.

0:42:49.080 --> 0:42:53.440
<v Speaker 7>We are talking about not their money, our money, taxpayers money.

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:56.879
<v Speaker 7>No one is taking any notice of how it's spent

0:42:57.120 --> 0:42:59.480
<v Speaker 7>or where it's spent, whether it be in defense on

0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:03.919
<v Speaker 7>the IT system or money that's grants for religious organizations.

0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 7>Are just handing it at willy nilly basic.

0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:07.040
<v Speaker 9>And it was just last.

0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:08.719
<v Speaker 5>Week also on the front page of the OS we

0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:11.400
<v Speaker 5>were talking about that one of the hate preachers in

0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:16.280
<v Speaker 5>Western Sydney who had been invited to apply for part

0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 5>of a two point four billion dollar grant by the government. Oh,

0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:23.480
<v Speaker 5>would you like some of that role up, Just submit

0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:28.240
<v Speaker 5>your application. These are people who should not be receiving

0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:32.799
<v Speaker 5>a cent of our taxpayer dollar. And yet here's a

0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:35.240
<v Speaker 5>second instance in the space of a week.

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:39.319
<v Speaker 2>So the Albanezi government is worried about social cohesion and

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:43.920
<v Speaker 2>yet they're dolling out millions of taxpayer dollars to organizations

0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:50.080
<v Speaker 2>that are creating divisiveness and sprouting violent retric One of

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:52.920
<v Speaker 2>the organizations, according to this report, that's getting money from

0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:55.320
<v Speaker 2>the government to beef up their own security is the

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:59.759
<v Speaker 2>Australian Islamic House, which hosted a speaker who said that

0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:03.160
<v Speaker 2>the the one thy four hundred Israelis killed on October

0:44:03.239 --> 0:44:07.440
<v Speaker 2>seven were not innocent, but they'd provoked Palestinians by stealing

0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:12.120
<v Speaker 2>their land and also referred to modern Israel as sorry

0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:15.359
<v Speaker 2>to Israel, as modern day Nazis. So they're saying all

0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 2>this sort of stuff which is clearly creating fear and

0:44:18.800 --> 0:44:22.200
<v Speaker 2>angst in the Jewish community, but they get government money

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:23.600
<v Speaker 2>to beef up their own security.

0:44:23.719 --> 0:44:23.919
<v Speaker 12>Yep.

0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:27.200
<v Speaker 2>And just on that, we keep hearing, you know, anti

0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:30.920
<v Speaker 2>Semitism and Islamophobia that they're both a problem. Yet to

0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:34.840
<v Speaker 2>really see much evidence of rampant Islamophobia in this country,

0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:37.960
<v Speaker 2>but anti Semitism, there's a new example we could bring

0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:42.120
<v Speaker 2>you every single night. So for the government money to

0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:45.960
<v Speaker 2>be doled out as if they're both equally problematic seems

0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:47.200
<v Speaker 2>to me a little disingenuous.

0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:50.040
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, And in a case like this deserves ministerial intervention.

0:44:50.160 --> 0:44:52.640
<v Speaker 7>But we know that Labor is worried about Muslim votes,

0:44:52.680 --> 0:44:56.480
<v Speaker 7>particularly in Western Sydney, so something they there won't be

0:44:56.600 --> 0:44:59.719
<v Speaker 7>any ministerial intervention while we're on these matters. Also says

0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:02.919
<v Speaker 7>on the of the Els tomorrow, US urges Australia over

0:45:03.200 --> 0:45:07.200
<v Speaker 7>UN Israel vote. The Albanezi government is facing US pressure

0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:10.759
<v Speaker 7>to reject a draft UN resolution by the Palestinian Authority

0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:15.000
<v Speaker 7>demanding an immediate Israeli withdrawal from Gaza and the West

0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:19.239
<v Speaker 7>Bank and sanctions against the Jewish State. Now, of course

0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:22.759
<v Speaker 7>the Palestinian authority would want that. The fact that Australia

0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:25.759
<v Speaker 7>would be thinking of voting in favor of something like

0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:29.480
<v Speaker 7>this is just outrageous. Okay, like every other war that

0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:32.040
<v Speaker 7>has ever happened. What happens when you just you know,

0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:35.000
<v Speaker 7>pull out wholess bowlus and walk away from it, Well,

0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:37.800
<v Speaker 7>you leave things behind, you open a vacuum. We already

0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:40.600
<v Speaker 7>know Hamas is in control in Gaza. It's just an

0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:43.719
<v Speaker 7>invitation to say, oh, keep going on your merry way.

0:45:43.880 --> 0:45:46.279
<v Speaker 7>Like sure, you might say, we would like to see

0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:49.239
<v Speaker 7>a potential end date to this war, but you can't

0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:51.879
<v Speaker 7>run around, say just walk out and expect everything's going to.

0:45:51.800 --> 0:45:56.080
<v Speaker 3>Be fair, and are we forgetting something hostages? There's about

0:45:56.080 --> 0:45:58.600
<v Speaker 3>one hundred hostages still in Gaza.

0:45:59.040 --> 0:46:02.400
<v Speaker 2>So Palestine become honorary members or whatever of the United

0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:04.840
<v Speaker 2>Nations and within four months. This is the kind of

0:46:04.960 --> 0:46:07.080
<v Speaker 2>rubbish they come up with. This is why most people

0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:09.080
<v Speaker 2>thought they should never be part of the UN in

0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:11.640
<v Speaker 2>the first place. Anyway, we're going to go to a

0:46:11.719 --> 0:46:14.200
<v Speaker 2>break when we come back. Would you pay people to

0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:18.359
<v Speaker 2>exercise on your behalf? Doesn't really make sense, does it?

0:46:18.360 --> 0:46:20.279
<v Speaker 2>And yet people are doing it. We'll talk about that

0:46:20.360 --> 0:46:26.600
<v Speaker 2>in just a moment. Well, we're often amazed at the

0:46:26.680 --> 0:46:29.680
<v Speaker 2>lengths people will go to in order to impress others,

0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:32.279
<v Speaker 2>but this, honestly is next level. You may have heard

0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:35.720
<v Speaker 2>of the exercise app Strava. You use it to track

0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:39.400
<v Speaker 2>and then share with other people your run or you're cycling,

0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 2>and I've got it, surprised to find you in the

0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:42.359
<v Speaker 2>ad break.

0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 3>Even Caleb's got.

0:46:43.400 --> 0:46:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Strava surprise that I wasn't sure you could get the

0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Strava for drinking glasses of wine.

0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:52.719
<v Speaker 3>Here's the deal.

0:46:52.760 --> 0:46:55.560
<v Speaker 2>There's this expression, if it's not on Strava, it didn't happen.

0:46:55.600 --> 0:46:58.279
<v Speaker 2>So it's very important to track your run or your

0:46:58.320 --> 0:47:01.000
<v Speaker 2>bike ride and then post it so everyone can see

0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:03.000
<v Speaker 2>how athletic and how disciplined you are.

0:47:03.400 --> 0:47:06.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, there's a new trend where people are paying.

0:47:05.760 --> 0:47:08.799
<v Speaker 2>Others to do the run or do the cycle for

0:47:08.840 --> 0:47:12.160
<v Speaker 2>them and then upload it to their Strava. So I

0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:14.960
<v Speaker 2>guess it's a way of sleeping in until ten, but

0:47:15.080 --> 0:47:18.799
<v Speaker 2>all your work colleagues think you're incredibly focused and incredibly disciplined.

0:47:19.080 --> 0:47:23.320
<v Speaker 2>Gill from the UK is calling himself a Strava mule

0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:26.239
<v Speaker 2>and he thought, he says, I thought, I've got some

0:47:26.320 --> 0:47:26.960
<v Speaker 2>time on my hands.

0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:28.600
<v Speaker 3>I'd love to go for a cycle ride.

0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:31.080
<v Speaker 2>It'd be great for someone to pay enough for my coffee,

0:47:31.239 --> 0:47:34.480
<v Speaker 2>my drink and my banana afterwards. So he started advertising

0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:37.200
<v Speaker 2>on air tasker, Hey, if you'd like me to do

0:47:37.239 --> 0:47:39.799
<v Speaker 2>your ride for you, and then you can upload it as.

0:47:39.719 --> 0:47:42.560
<v Speaker 3>If you've done it, and people are paying him to

0:47:42.880 --> 0:47:45.759
<v Speaker 3>do alievable. It's all social credit, right.

0:47:45.800 --> 0:47:48.920
<v Speaker 2>You get no physical benefit from paying someone else to

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<v Speaker 2>exercise on your behalf.

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<v Speaker 7>But imagine that level of vanity that I need people

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<v Speaker 7>to think I'm doing this level of exercise.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone to do it for me. They say, don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>everything you see online. This is just the ultimate case

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<v Speaker 1>of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Surely, I've got to tell you quickly. I was found

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<v Speaker 2>unconscious riding my bike. I came off it and so

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<v Speaker 2>the ambulance picked me up. They rushed me to hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>I was unconscious right but after it all I checked

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<v Speaker 2>my Strava. I was doing one hundred and thirty five

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<v Speaker 2>k's and no one knew it was in the back

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<v Speaker 2>of an ambulance.

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<v Speaker 3>They just thought I had a great tail with it.

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<v Speaker 9>They got to be like, this guy is incredible.

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<v Speaker 5>Just before we leave each tonight, a guy by the

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<v Speaker 5>name of Ron Buke. He's a dog walker and he's

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<v Speaker 5>been fined by his local counsel. Some Karen's been on

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<v Speaker 5>his case for walking ten dogs. Apparently this is against

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<v Speaker 5>the law in this particular Council of Port Philip. Ron says,

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<v Speaker 5>I've been walking dogs for over twenty years.

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<v Speaker 9>And I've never had an issue.

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<v Speaker 5>I've noticed in the last year or two Port Philip

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<v Speaker 5>has been cracking down on us dog walkers. I think

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<v Speaker 5>they're just a bit short of money and it's just

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<v Speaker 5>a grab for cash. They literally took him to the

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<v Speaker 5>magistrates court He was fined for nine hundred and sixty dollars.

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<v Speaker 9>Which he got reduced in court. Good on your ran.

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<v Speaker 5>Apparently you're not allowed to walk more than seven dogs

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<v Speaker 5>without a permit.

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<v Speaker 9>What is the world coming to? It's an off dog,

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<v Speaker 9>it's an off Lee show.

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<v Speaker 7>How do they come up with a number of seven dogs?

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway?

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<v Speaker 7>Look the one place in the world where they don't

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<v Speaker 7>have these rules, I'm sure Springfield, Ohio would be.

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<v Speaker 5>Beating the door.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it from us. We've got to go, but stick around.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up is the reader Penn issue.