WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 15 May 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:04.800 Late Welcome Late Debate. 0:00:07.440 --> 0:00:09.959 Thanks for joining us on the Late Debate. James Macpherson 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:12.960 with Liz Storer and Caleb Bond. Well, just when you 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:16.759 thought Joe Biden could not get any more confused, he can. 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:18.960 Will show you proof in just a moment. 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:22.360 Plus, when we look at the papers billionaires unimpressed by 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:25.560 the government's three hundred dollars energy rebate. They're promising to 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:29.479 donate it to charity and new curfew laws for the 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:32.360 Northern Territory. But first we've got to tell you about 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:36.600 a wild meeting tonight at Cumberland City Council where councilors 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:39.760 are debating whether or not to overturn a ban on 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:43.400 a same sex parenting book in the local library. Now, 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:47.640 hundreds of protesters have gathered outside the City council chambers tonight. 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:51.280 It's required half a dozen police to keep protesters apart 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:53.760 as they've chanted slogans at each other. 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:56.840 Some of them were there for three hours. Have a look. 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.400 You can see some of the vision here and we'll 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:01.000 give you a bit more of this. Have listened to 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:10.640 what some of the protesters were saying, Caleb that was 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:14.800 outside the chambers. Everyone's got signs they're yelling at each other. 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:17.959 Police are keeping them apart, but inside the chambers it 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:18.800 got even worse. 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:21.120 Certainly has because, of course, sir, you would know. The 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:23.440 decision was made to ban the book or remove it 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:26.400 from the library a couple of weeks ago. The motion 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:28.880 tonight is to change that. There is still no result. 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:31.200 By the way, this meeting started at six thirty, so 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:35.319 it's been going on for some time. Seventeen people were 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:38.240 scheduled to speak tonight. Here is one of them who 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:39.760 is a transgender teacher. 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:42.199 My name's Evan Gray. 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:44.800 I'm an early childhood educator. I work in the local 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:48.040 government sector, and I'm a United Services Union member and 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:52.160 activist currently em bargaining at the moment. I'm also proud 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:54.680 to be part of the transgender community, and I'd like 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:58.840 to say that, honestly, this ban that was put forward 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:03.600 is a disgrace. It is logistically unsound and it is nonsensical. 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:08.720 Paul, who is sitting in the studio just across from us, 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:10.680 has told us that that meeting is now going to 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:14.560 go on until eleven PM. And as someone who used 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:16.920 to cover council meetings, that sort of thing is the 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:20.919 bane of my existence. Of course, things continued to get worse, 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:25.360 to the point where people have been ejected multiple times tonight. 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:27.480 Here is the mayor pulling the crowd up, going to. 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:30.920 Do and I not care as to whether you feel 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:35.720 uncomfortable about my existence or presence. Just pardon me a minute, 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:37.160 I will, I will. 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:41.000 I will eject more people if they yell while speakers 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:42.040 are speaking. 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:44.640 If you cannot sit in silence, I ask you to 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:45.240 leave now. 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:49.480 All this over a book. But I think it got 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:52.040 a bit crazier than that, didn't it, Liz Oh. 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:55.480 This guy who had his moment on the floor took 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.120 things to a whole another level. 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:02.000 Location of this book ban and what it says to 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:03.760 those two and a half thousand people is that you're 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:06.400 not welcome in this electorate, you're not welcome in these suburbs, 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:08.679 and you don't deserve to exist in public life, just 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:11.920 as anyone else does in this council. And the implication 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:15.440 of that is that children will can kill themselves because 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:17.520 of you, Yes. 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:23.120 Miss, In my humble opinion, all this goes to show 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:29.480 is just how militant certain people are about indoctrinating other 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:34.240 people's children. They had to have the police riot squad 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:39.920 stand between the two groups represented there tonight, obviously because 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:43.200 the Cumberland Councilor had residents come out in force to 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:48.480 support the good riddance to such a book, while others, 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:50.760 as we've seen represented there on the floor of the 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:55.160 chamber had showed up to rail against said banning. 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:57.600 We should point out that Steve Christo, one of the 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:01.480 councilors there who has led the protest against this book. 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:03.920 His primary objection was that the book was in the 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.560 children's section. He'd be quite happy if it was moved 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:09.320 to the adult section, but those who want the ban 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.640 overturned are demanding its state in the junior. 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:14.080 Non fiction section. 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:17.280 Steve Christouo told the council meeting tonight that he has 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:21.120 received multiple death threats both for him and his family. 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:25.800 Oh lovely people, Let's let them give books to children and. 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:27.719 Yeah. 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:31.520 Meanwhile, Deputy Mayor Ola Hammad she accused Steve christou of 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:35.360 being hateful and divisive and using this issue for cheap 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:39.279 political points scoring ahead of the September council elections. 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:41.719 It's amazing, isn't it that we are at the point 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:44.920 where councils are being bogged down with this kind of thing, 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.440 like you know, the decision was made. I had some 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:50.880 reservations about it. A big deal go to another library. 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:53.360 There are so many libraries across Sydney. I mean, I'm 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.560 sure the people of Cumberland are not sort of, you know, 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:59.240 corralled into only being in the Shire of Cumberland all 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:01.400 the time. They could drive a couple of kilometers over 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.080 the border and go to another library and borrow any 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:04.840 book to their hearts. 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:06.560 Well, just order it online. 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.320 It's just same sex parents and you want to get 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:12.960 that book for your child, it is readily available to you. 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:17.040 Ros Craig Kelly, former One Nation member, he spoke tonight 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:20.240 and he's quoting JFKA talking about a parent's right to 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:23.760 educate their children as they said. Fit Eddie sarkis so 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:26.080 I think used to be a council member at Cumberland. 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:28.120 He talked about the fact that he's read the book. 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:30.720 He said, I read the book. I thought it was fine, 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:34.160 but as a Catholic person, I would be incredibly uncomfortable 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:35.880 having to explain it to my children. 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:36.279 Exactly. 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:36.960 I wouldn't want. 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:38.839 Anyone else to have to do that. If it was 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:41.520 put in the adult section, no problem at all. My 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.400 objection is why does it have to be in the 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:46.839 children's section. I think that's pretty reasonable. 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:50.880 Oh, it's completely reasonable, and that's all these parents. 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:52.159 Are protesting for. 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:56.200 That's why they asked these counselors please do ban it. 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.359 This is not something that we want our kids exposed to. 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.599 That creates a lot of questions in the minds of 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:03.400 little people. 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:05.160 Where'd the baby come from? 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.520 If there's two daddies as is depicted in the book. 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:10.479 Does this mean I'm going to be with a man 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:12.159 when I grow up? Or will I be with a 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:15.120 woman when I grow up? All the kinds of questions 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:18.400 that children simply don't need to be entertaining at their age. 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:19.279 It's as simple as that. 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:23.320 And of course the original motion passed six ' five tonight. 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:27.000 All eight labor counselors are in attendance, so it seems 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:30.120 like a foregone conclusion that the recision. 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:31.120 Motion will pass. 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:33.360 But of course, if we hear anything about that before 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:36.000 eleven pm, we will let you know. 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:37.840 Let's move on to other. 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:41.320 Issues now, our Prime Minister Anthony ALBANIZI we know he 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:42.279 tells us all the time. 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:43.839 I mean it's a bit like, you know, how do 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:46.360 you know someone is a vegan. They tell you right. 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:49.000 Anthony Albanizi tells us all the time how he grew 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:51.480 up in public housing with a single mother. It was 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:53.720 a hard live, et cetera, et cetera. Life is a 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:56.360 little easier for the Prime Minister these days. He has 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:59.760 multiple properties, including of course investment properties. And in the 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:02.960 Fed budget last night we heard all the great work 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:06.159 that the federal government is going to do for renters. 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.760 They're going to get a ten percent increase in rental 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:09.560 assistance to. 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:11.400 Make life that little bit easier. 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.720 We're going to be building more houses so there are 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:17.200 more houses for people to rent. But one of the 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:20.560 people renting a house owned by the Prime Minister received 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:24.600 notification today from his property manager that he is being 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:28.120 evicted by the Prime Minister because the Prime Minister has 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:31.280 seen fit to pack up and sell the property. Now, 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:34.520 mister Albinizi says this is because he's sort of simplifying 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:38.240 his finances, getting things in order as he gets ready 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.880 to marry his partner, Jody Hayden. And of course he 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:44.800 is well within his rights to sell his property. It 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:48.280 is his property to do with as he sees fit. 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:51.240 But it is a little bit funny, isn't it not 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:53.800 to see him who goes. 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:55.720 On and on about what a terrible hard life he 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:56.280 had as a. 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:59.840 Kid now having to get rid of a renter. The 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:03.160 poor Todden non people is trying to help on the 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.160 night that he delivers the budget. 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:07.920 And of course his tenant is a labor voter who 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:09.920 really likes Albanezi as Prime Minister. 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:12.600 I just thought so much as landlord. 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:16.160 So disruptive when you get in the viction notice. I 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:19.840 know all landowners are entitled to do that, it just 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:21.320 reaks absolute havoc. 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:22.960 At the moment, you know, we're dealing with. 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:26.960 Cost of living Crisis's probably the worst rental crisis certainly 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:30.840 ever I can remember in Sydney. We've got a massive 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:34.319 shortage of properties and options are pretty limited for enters 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:37.120 currently in Sydney. And look, full disclosure, how there's been 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:39.559 a really good landlord. I like albow I noted for 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:43.199 him in the last election. I'm supportive of a lot 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:47.079 of the things that he does. I'm very confused by this. 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:50.720 As a labor voter, I'm a little confused as well. 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:53.080 It just doesn't seem aligned. 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:57.840 With the information that's come out in budget week. Clearly 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:02.000 there's an emphasis in the labor government on wanting to 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:06.360 do what they can to protect and support renters and 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:09.959 understand the proper living crisis that we're all going through. 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:15.679 This doesn't seem fully aligned with that to. 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:19.040 Me, Liz, I can understand the guy's confusion. He's trying 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.880 to match Anthony Albanesi. We've got to do something about 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:27.079 the housing crisis, Prime Minister with Anthony Albanesi, you're evicted landlord. 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:33.400 I think he's trying to conflate Albanesi's amount of compassion 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:37.040 he likes to show on the public stage compared. 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:39.640 To look, it's a great time to sell. 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:42.120 I'm out it, get out, get out. This guy's been 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:45.320 given ninety days to get out. Victor tends to have 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:48.880 this depiction of someone being booted out their belongings on 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:53.000 the sidewalk. He's been on a month to month basis 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.120 his lease rather for. 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.960 A long time now, and props. 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:00.800 To Albow, he took this guy's lease down to six 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:04.600 hundred and eighty bucks a week during COVID and hasn't 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:08.719 raised it since. So he has been quite a fair landlord. 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.840 But to be honest, I can't fault Albaniazi for this, 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:15.000 and I actually think it's a bit of a low 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:18.400 blow by this guy to leverage the fact that because 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:21.960 his landlord's the Prime Minister and his landlord's doing something 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:24.079 that quite a few landlords are doing at the moment, 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:28.880 because the market is hot, he thinks that he can 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:31.720 go on national TV and sell his sob story. We 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:34.560 all know the rental market is a blood sport at 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:38.600 the moment. Nobody is saying that's an veal ball position 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:39.640 to be in, But. 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:41.240 That's life, mate. 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:43.720 It sounds like he's been a great landlord to date 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:45.200 and he's simply divesting of. 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:47.280 Some of his assets. I can't fault him for it. 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:48.720 He's within his rights to do it. 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:51.480 I suppose it's just the irony of, you know, we've 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:53.679 got to do all this work for renters, and he's 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:56.760 essentially taking a rental property off of the market, but 0:10:58.280 --> 0:10:59.880 we don't know who's going to buy it, right and 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:02.320 who knows. It could be a foreign investor, it could 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:03.960 be someone who goes and moves in there and lives 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.480 in it, and good on them if they get there 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:09.120 a foothold in the property market. I've got to say, 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.959 though I did When I read the bit about how 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:14.120 Albo had dropped his rent to six hundred and eighty 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:17.600 during COVID and hadn't adjusted it up since then, I 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:20.319 did for a minute think, Gee, I wish Albow was 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:23.559 my landlord, because this fella so he's in Dallachill, which 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.240 is in the inner West of Sydney, and he's been 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:28.160 paying six hundred and eighty a week for a three 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:31.680 bedroom townhouse, and I pay more than that for a 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:34.040 two bedroom townhouse in the Inner West. 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:37.000 So I'm like, Albo, come and buy my house. 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:40.360 Please, have actually had it better than you know, Jim Flanagan. 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:43.679 And don't worry because the alban Easy government will give 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:48.760 you twenty five bucks a fortnight inner rental assistance, that's 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:52.559 if you qualify. And just last night they renewed calls 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:57.000 to build one point two million new ho good luck. 0:11:56.920 --> 0:12:00.760 By mid twenty twenty nine. So don't worry where Jimbo, 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:02.160 It's all going to be fine. 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:04.560 The other curious part of this story is this guy 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:06.679 got the notice in the mail that hey, you need 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:07.760 to look for somewhere else to live. 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.560 He got it a week ago, but this story. 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:13.920 Comes out today the day after the federal budget. 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:15.839 So the timing is interesting. 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:19.240 The letter stayed hidden for a week and today was 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:20.240 a good day to bring it out. 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:23.720 Indeed, it won't be easy under albanezi Is, as I 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:26.320 think they say. Anyway, moving on to other issues, let's 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:28.920 go over to the UK now. Actually, well, I'm sorry, 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:30.920 I'll bring the UK into it, but we'll talk about 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:32.000 the Australian angle. 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:32.640 First. 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:37.760 You might have heard about the World Health Organization Pandemic Treaty. Now, 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:41.280 the idea is basically that all member states in the 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:44.840 UN will sign up to a plan whereby if there 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:49.400 were another pandemic, the World Health Organization would have providence 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:54.640 over the worldwide response to that. In essence, all nations 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:57.600 would respond in the same way. But along with that 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:01.800 comes a number of rules about not hoard certain things. 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:05.280 You can't keep ppe for yourself. You can't keep certain 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:08.600 medications for yourself. You have to make it available to 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:11.280 other nations. You also have to make it available to 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:15.440 the World Health Organization for free if they want to 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.320 come and take it. It raises obvious questions about why 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:21.439 would you want this global body to have control over 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:25.079 you as a sovereign nation. It opens up questions about well, 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:28.920 if there was a decision to go into lockdown again, 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:32.520 does the World Health Organization then tell all the member 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:36.880 states that they must do that we all respond in unison, 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:41.040 thus taking away our ability to make our decisions on 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:45.599 behalf of our self. Well, yesterday a group of fourteen 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:50.000 senators sent off a letter to the federal government saying 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:53.920 we need to walk away from our plans to join up. 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:56.640 We should not sign this and we should not sign 0:13:56.640 --> 0:14:00.320 it into law. Liberal Senator from South Australia Alexantik. Today 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:02.640 the Prime Minister received a letter co signed by a 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:07.040 group of fording cross party federal parliamentarians requesting the government 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:10.719 walk away from the amendments to the International Health Regulations 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:12.679 and the WHO Pandemic Treaty. 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:14.840 A meeting of the World Health. 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:17.680 Assembly will commence on the twenty seventh of May, just 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:20.360 in a week or two time to vote on these 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:25.720 instruments which passed. If passed, will transform sorry the WHO 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:29.520 from an advisory body to a supernational health body. Now, 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:32.800 the UK, in the last few hours has said that 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:36.000 it will not be signing on to the treaty in 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:39.440 its current form because it is worried, as we all 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:42.960 should be, that it would take away their ability to 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:45.440 operate as a sovereign nation. 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:47.479 And can you blame. 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:50.080 Them because when you look at the response of other 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:54.760 countries apart from US during COVID, let's say Sweden for instance, 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:58.000 where they did what no one else did. Didn't go 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:00.560 with the lockdowns, didn't go with the man dates, took 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:05.120 a completely different tack and the results they had were identical, 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:08.520 if not better in most cases, to every other nation 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:12.120 in the world. They did something completely different and it worked. 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.480 But if the who is able to tell you what 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:17.280 to do, you don't have that ability to make that decision. 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:20.040 What are the reasons why Sweden did that? And nobody 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:23.960 talks about this enough, is because they literally didn't have 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:27.920 the power to the government in Sweden has never given 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:33.640 themselves the power to enforce mandates of injections on people, 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:36.560 to lock down people's businesses, etc. 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.240 And so on. Power to them. 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:43.280 No government should have that much power over millions of 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:47.440 free citizens. But you're quite right, they're now laughing all 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:50.640 the way to the bank, even with the UK making 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:53.480 this Bolshey move. And I must say I'm incredibly impressed. 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:57.360 I cannot see Albanezi doing this. I cannot see him 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:01.120 pulling out. He has been in locks step with everything 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:03.920 the UN has done and it bears mentioning for anyone 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:07.560 who's unaware the who the World Health Organization is the 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:11.360 UN's health arm, so it's one and the same body. Essentially, 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:15.040 he simply hasn't broken rank with them, even when it 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:18.520 comes to Israel. Palestine matters, as we saw most painfully 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:20.080 over the weekend. 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:23.160 And when you look at this government's track. 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:26.280 Record, whether it comes to Digital ID which is set 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:30.520 to sail through any day now in our parliament, if 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:34.080 you look at the Voice referendum, if you look at immigration, 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:37.040 their policies on immigration and what they have and haven't 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:41.120 done around that, public opinion doesn't mean anything anymore. If 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:43.840 this went to a vote, would the Australian people want 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.800 us to sign up to this World Health Organization treaty? 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:48.400 Absolutely not. 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:51.920 For the Albanezy government has proved time and time again 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:56.360 public opinion counts for Jack. They have an agenda to 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:58.720 roll out and they are going to roll it out 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:00.800 come May. 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:01.920 Your point is well made. 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.119 If this went to a vote, there's no way Australians 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:08.879 would support handing over our sovereignty to some unelected unrepresentative 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.919 group based in where Geneva. So we should have a 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:15.440 position where we want to cooperate obviously globally if there's 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:18.719 a worldwide pandemic, then we would want to cooperate, but 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:21.080 not give up our autonomy. But if we were of 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:22.920 a mind to give up our autonomy and say we're 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:25.199 going to give someone else the authority to tell us 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:27.560 what to do in the event of a health emergency. 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:29.680 The WHO would be the last organization. 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:33.200 I mean, we only have to look back what twenty 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:35.919 four to forty eight months ago to see they stuffed 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:37.360 up COVID something shocking. 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:39.440 It was the WHO said COVID. 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:41.280 Is not transmitted to human to human corect so it 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:45.400 will be okay. That decision alone probably cost hundreds of thousands, 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:49.160 perhaps millions of lives. They have proved they should never 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:52.560 be trusted with authority. Sure, give advice, but we shouldn't 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:55.600 be beholdened to you. And as you said, when do 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:57.520 we get a vote on these things? When do we 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:00.840 decide who's in charge rather than have our politicians just 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:01.440 sell us out. 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:03.800 Well, the World Health Organization with the biggest bunch of 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:06.520 flip floppers during COVID you've ever seen. They started out 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:09.680 by buying into what China had told them, just unquestioningly, 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:13.840 and as you said, indeed had they just declared that, 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:16.560 you know, there was no evidence of transmission from humans, 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:19.160 even though at that time, I mean, China was well 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:21.200 aware of what was going on in their own country 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:22.880 and they were taking for cooks who. 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:25.960 Spent more time trying to rename COVID, so it had 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:29.560 no connection at all with China or correct than they 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:30.760 did actually trying to keep people. 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:31.280 And then. 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:35.280 And then the World Health Organization said in the early 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:38.960 stages of COVID that it did not recommend mask use 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:42.840 because it thought mask use would lead to complacency. Then 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:45.480 of course it changed its mind on that and decided 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:48.120 that everyone should be wearing masks. They made it up 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:50.880 on the hop and we want these people in. 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:52.200 Charge of our response. 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:54.640 I thought the one lesson we learned from COVID, if 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:58.640 nothing else, was that sovereignty is sacrisanct, because we realized 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.800 very quickly when we were removed from the rest of 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:04.840 the world exactly how reliant we had to be on 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:07.520 ourselves in the position we found ourselves in because we 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:09.639 ran out of things, We didn't have stuff we're not. 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:12.000 Hang on a minute, we better sort that out. And 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:15.119 now we're going straight back to old ways. Yeah, le's centralized. 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:17.159 The other thing is with this Pandemic treaty is I 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:20.520 understand it. The first draft included the ability for the 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:25.960 WHO to implement vaccine mandates and lockdowns on countries around 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:27.960 the world. Now I think that's been taken out because 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:30.560 that was probably a bridge too far at this point. 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:32.280 But it gives you an idea as. 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:36.199 To the aspirations of our global overlords. If that's what 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:38.639 they want, we're not going to give up on it. 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:41.160 Up that is their intention. Now they'll take a water 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:43.359 down version to start with. 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:44.440 Correct, But we. 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:47.359 All know that's how every bill makes its way through 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:50.960 their respective parliaments. It starts with a few amendments to 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:54.040 get it over the line. Then everyone's happy, so we'll 0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:57.560 sign up to it. Okay, Now it becomes law, and 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:00.640 then further amendments are made down the track as and 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:04.320 when they see fit. And what is really troubling about 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:08.639 these things that our supposedly sovereign countries sign up to. 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:13.680 They're seeding their sovereignty. And because it's not in parliament, 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:15.760