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Speaker 1: Apogee Production. Welcome to the She Rises Podcast. I'm Ashy

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Speaker 1: and I'm Tiana.

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Speaker 2: This podcast is about female empowerment and encouraging you to

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Speaker 2: be your biggest, boldest, and most authentic version of yourself.

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Speaker 1: We help you shed the shame, grow to a new level.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna laugh, cry, and talk about the topics everyone

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Speaker 1: else is too afraid to talk about.

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Speaker 2: Get ready for your next level of self. Welcome back

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Speaker 2: to another episode of She Rises with Ashy and Tiana.

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Speaker 2: It is Monday morning, so wherever it is that you're

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Speaker 2: plugging in from the car or walk your home, your bed,

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Speaker 2: even who knows, we have an episode for you. We

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Speaker 2: want to talk all today about our inner child when

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Speaker 2: we first met her in a child, personal experiences of

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Speaker 2: our inner child sabotaging us out of fear, and how

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Speaker 2: you can kind of come into yourself and really bring

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Speaker 2: yours forward and connect with her today.

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Speaker 1: And if you're listening thinking, oh, I don't need to

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Speaker 1: do that work or I don't connect with my inner child,

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Speaker 1: I just think that as well. But this work is

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Speaker 1: truly so transformative and actually are freaking important that you

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Speaker 1: connect with you and your child because she is always

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Speaker 1: a part of you before we get in Share of

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Speaker 1: the week when I go first.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely so. My Share of the Week is actually a

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Speaker 2: jewelry brand that I found. So it's called Y C. L.

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Speaker 2: I believe there's a little pop up store at Pacfair

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Speaker 2: in front of Honeybourdette. If you know where it is,

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Speaker 2: you'll find it there. It's actually where I bought Ashy's

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Speaker 2: birthday present from her necklace. It's a four four Ford necklace.

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Speaker 2: It's very cute.

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Speaker 1: That's my birthstone on it too.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And I just I love all the jewelry pieces.

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Speaker 2: They're very dainty jewelry. They've also got big and bulky

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Speaker 2: jelry there too, but it's just really cute, fine necklaces, bracelets, rings,

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Speaker 2: And I'm just very in a jewelry error at the moment.

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Speaker 1: I love that we are in our jewelry era.

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Speaker 2: Don't build my stack, babe, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Love it. And then my recommendation, I'm doubting myself for

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Speaker 1: I've already recommended this. But it's a TV show called

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Speaker 1: The Beast in Meat. Okay, it is very edge of

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Speaker 1: your seat. It's crime. It's a bit of thriller. There's

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Speaker 1: murder in there. It's twisted it's based around this author

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Speaker 1: and a serial psycho killer. And yes, the actors actresses

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Speaker 1: are just incredible in there. And we've binged it in

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Speaker 1: a couple of days. I think, Oh, I love that.

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Speaker 1: That is only eight episodes, but things happen that you

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Speaker 1: didn't think were going to happen. I love those ones

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Speaker 1: where I can't figure out what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It keeps you thinking, yeah, yeah and excited.

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Speaker 1: Really good, all right, let's get into it in a

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Speaker 1: child work. Really, I feel like I got introduced to

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Speaker 1: I remember the first time that I was introduced to

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Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck is this bullshit? I

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Speaker 1: honestly I did, and I was like, this is just stupid.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a child, I'm an adult, Like, what do

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Speaker 1: you mean connect with her?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: I just couldn't understand the concept. And it was only, honestly,

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Speaker 1: I did a guided meditation with Megsie. I've done a

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Speaker 1: bit of work on it before, and I definitely believe

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Speaker 1: certain degree, but I hadn't fully connected with my inner child.

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Speaker 1: So she took me through this beautiful guided meditation and

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Speaker 1: took me back through all these really traumatic times in

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Speaker 1: my life. I remember things I didn't even I'd never

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Speaker 1: spoken about before, I'd never remembered. She wrote it all down,

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Speaker 1: so we got to talk about it afterwards. But I

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Speaker 1: vividly remember like sitting at the end of my bed

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Speaker 1: just bawling my eyes. And ever since I've connected with her,

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Speaker 1: frustrated or wanting something, it's your little girl there too,

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Speaker 1: have that compassion for her, you have that compassion for

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Speaker 2: I didn't really know what in a child work was

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Speaker 2: before I had worked with this one coach. He is incredible,

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Speaker 2: say beautiful, such a healing like masculine presence to be around.

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Speaker 2: His name is Rick William who's.

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Speaker 1: Actually coming in Rise and Side.

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Speaker 2: He's actually an expert guest who's bringing an expert training

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Speaker 2: for you guys inside. And honestly, he changed my life,

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Speaker 2: Like we worked together consistently for six months, incredible, and

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Speaker 2: we basically did in a child healing for six months

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Speaker 2: we just went ham every single week. And at first

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Speaker 2: I couldn't describe how it felt after the fact, but

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Speaker 2: gobsmacked and so shocked with how much lighter energetically I

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Speaker 2: felt afterwards. And at first, obviously when you're doing the

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Speaker 2: process and I'm sure he'll take you through something inside

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Speaker 2: Rise and Side, it's a scary thing to go through

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Speaker 2: because it's a very vulnerable thing and you're right, like

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Speaker 2: you remember things and remember moments in time that you

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Speaker 2: don't consciously think about. You don't think that you remember that,

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Speaker 2: and then your body remembers. It's crazy, crazy experience. I

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Speaker 2: remember going to him just feeling really lost and not

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Speaker 2: remember doing an interview with him after and he was

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Speaker 2: just like, Tiana, I just can't believe how much you've

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's because for six months straight, once

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Speaker 2: walk me through it in a child process. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So every session was like recession. When you say process

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Speaker 1: is like a guided meditation, yeah, like makes it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So he gets me to close my eyes, it

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Speaker 2: And I just met myself in so many ways that

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Speaker 1: How old would you like, you know, you connect with

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Speaker 2: I remember connecting a lot to when I was around six. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It sounds like it's kind of like a process

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Speaker 1: And for me it was through a lot of tears,

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Speaker 2: And it's funny, and you said things that you don't remember,

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Speaker 2: It's like, no wonder why we will walk around feeling

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you think about all the things, all of

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Speaker 2: the times where you were neglected, dismissed, punished, never held properly,

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Speaker 1: Of those years ago. It's a lot to hold.

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Speaker 2: capacity for anything else. Yeah, when you're carrying all of

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Speaker 1: it's maybe more empathetic and more compassionate. So I think

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Speaker 1: I was a lot more judgmental for this that if

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Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh, that's so shit, like they shouldn't

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Speaker 1: absolutely just wants to feel significant, he wants to feel needed,

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Speaker 1: So it just makes you more compassion to think about,

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Speaker 1: like what they might have actually gone through to see

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Speaker 1: them behave like that, because it's not the behavior that

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Speaker 1: how they have not dealt with it yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's as skill to be able to read

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Speaker 2: just the little girl inside of you, Yes, scared, fearful,

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Speaker 1: We literally do it to each other like sometimes if

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