1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Hey there, welcome to Healthy Ish. You are tuned into 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: the daily podcast from Body and Soul. I am Felicity Harley. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 1: Now have you always wondered how much your lifestyle habits 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: affect your skin health? Well, to help clear it up today, 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: I am joined by dermatologist doctor Stephanie Ria. She's going 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: to explain the impact of your daily habits, your diet 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: and stress, and a few other things on the health 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: of your skin. Plus she shares some valuable tips. If 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: you do like what you hear from let's call It 10 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: Doctor Reha, tune in to Extra Healthy Ish, where she 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: talks about how to maintain healthy, glowing skin despite being 12 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: right in the middle of the winter vortex. If you 13 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: want to listen to that one, search for Extra Healthy 14 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: Ish wherever you eat podcasts. Stephanie, thank you for joining 15 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: us on healthy Is today. 16 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: How are you good? Thanks for having me. I'm very 17 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: excited to be here. 18 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited to well, I'm always excited to talk 19 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: about And by the way, listeners, Stephanie's skin is glowing 20 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: through the screen at me. It is just a beautiful 21 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: So we'll get to what you do to maintain good 22 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: skin health. But let's talk about the impact of lifestyle. 23 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: How does it affect our skin health? Does it? 24 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: Is there a big impact here, There's a huge impact. 25 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 2: So obviously genetics play a role in our skin, but 26 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 2: the environment and what we're exposed to throughout our life 27 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: plays a really big role. UV is probably the biggest 28 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: impact that we see on our skin. So UV obviously 29 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 2: contributes to photo aging, It contributes to pigmentation and also 30 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 2: pre cancerous and cancerous lesions. Sun exposure from other things 31 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: like solarium use can contribute to aging, and then things 32 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: like smoking. Poor diet, specifically a high GI diet we 33 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: see as a factor that contributes to aging in our skin. 34 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: So lifestyle is extremely important when you're trying to maintain 35 00:01:59,160 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: good skin health. 36 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: It's interesting, is it, because often we just turn to 37 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: products and we think, oh, that's going to help, But 38 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: really by examining your lifestyle that perhaps should be our 39 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: first stop when it comes to looking after our skin. 40 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: Can you talk more about the impact of stress. I 41 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: mean this is a big one. I mean many of 42 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: us live such crazy, busy lives, you know, I feel 43 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: like our stress levels are heightened well, particularly since COVID. 44 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: I just feel like they've never gone down. What impact 45 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: does stress have on our skin? 46 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: I think the way stress impacts our skin is multifactorial. 47 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: So we know that if we're stressed, we sleep poorly. 48 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: Poor sleep can contribute to poor skin health. We also 49 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: know that if we're not sleeping well, we make poor 50 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: dietary choices. If we're stressed, we're grabbing whatever's around, so 51 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 2: we might be grabbing highly processed foods rather those that 52 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: are unprocessed and high and antioxidants, which are beneficial for 53 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: our skin. And stress also increases our cortisol, and we 54 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: know cortisole can contribute to both aging but also things 55 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: like acne. 56 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: Speaking about my personal experience, you know, I get psoriasis 57 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: here and there, and it's interesting now, you know, I 58 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: know if I've had a stressful week and then it'll 59 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: I might get a little flare up on my on my. 60 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: Elbows one hundred percent. So we know that lots of 61 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: inflammatory skin conditions, So, like you pointed out, zariasis, exma, 62 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: even autoimmune conditions like loopus, which we treat a lot 63 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 2: as dermatologists, all have a relationship to stress. So stress 64 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: impacts the inflammation in our body and our skin is 65 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: really a representation of what's going on inside. So I 66 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: see quite regularly patients come in and they might have 67 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 2: had a major lifestyle upset, relationship breakup, a loss of 68 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: a job, and their skin flares quite significantly with that. 69 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: So we do know and we can't underestimate the impact 70 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: that stress has on our skin. 71 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: Do we realize this at the time or are we 72 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: just questioning, oh, I'm having breakouts or this is happening 73 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: with my skin, or many of us aware of this 74 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: link between stress some skin health. 75 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: Look, certainly some people are very clued up, certainly my 76 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: patients that I see with chronic inflammatory skin conditions like psoriasis. 77 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: So you're a prime example. You know your skin really well, 78 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: you know that stress will flare it. But I think 79 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: for other people, when they're in the midst of that stress, 80 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 2: whatever that may be, they don't necessarily see the correlation. 81 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: And it's only after dealing with that stressful event that 82 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 2: they then start to pay attention to themselves, including their 83 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: skin health. 84 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: When you're in it, you don't really think about the 85 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: impact you know that's having on your skin. You're thinking 86 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: about just getting through whatever you trying to get through. 87 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: Talk to us about some important lifestyle habits for healthy skin. 88 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: So I think first and foremost is photo protection. So 89 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 2: we know, as I mentioned earlier, that UV exposure significantly 90 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 2: contributes to aging and also increases our skin cancer risk. 91 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: So there's a couple of things you can do. The 92 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 2: first is staying out of the sun when the UV 93 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: indexes three or more. There's lots of really good apps 94 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 2: around now, so checking your phone the app looking at 95 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: what the UV index is. Ideally it's staying indoors between 96 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: ten am and four pm is the general rule, but 97 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: we do know that the UV will change depending on 98 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 2: the season, and it will also change depending on your location. 99 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: UV can also penetrate through windows, and specifically it's a 100 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: longer wavelength which is called UVA, and that can contribute 101 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: to aging and photo damage as well. So yeah, sunscreen 102 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,679 Speaker 2: all year round, and that's partly the reason why even 103 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: on cloudy days. So the clouds can stop visible light, 104 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 2: but they don't stop UV radiation penetrating. And we know 105 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: that sun damage is cumulative, so it adds up over time. 106 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: So when you're looking to protect your skin, to protect 107 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: you from photo aging, we recommend broad spectrum SPS, so 108 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 2: ideally with a factor of at least fifty one that 109 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 2: covers uva UVB and then things like physical blockers so 110 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: zinc oxide and titaning dioxide, other things you can do 111 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 2: for your skin. So avoid smoking. We know smoking is 112 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: a major contribution of aging, and it also contributes to 113 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: other conditions like cardiovascular disease and lung disease. Avoiding solariums. 114 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: Fortunately in Australia they're now banned. And then as I 115 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: mentioned earlier, having a healthy diet where you can, so 116 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: specifically focusing on a low GI diet. We don't necessarily 117 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: recommend restricting certain items of food, there's really not significant 118 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: evidence for that, but low GI and fresh produce where 119 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 2: you can. 120 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: What are some of your go tos? What do you do? 121 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: I mean obviously all of the above, but what is 122 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: there anything extra you do or anything you've tried in 123 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: the name of good skin health. 124 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think you'll be surprised to find that 125 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: a lot of dermatologists actually use really simple skin care. 126 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: So I think the first thing is working out where 127 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: your skin fits in, what type of skin do you have, 128 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 2: and what are your your skin complaints? Do you have 129 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 2: dry skin? Does that skin change with the season, in 130 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 2: which case you need to change your products according to 131 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: the season. Do you have other medical comorbidities that might 132 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: be affecting your skin, like low thyroid or medications that 133 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: can be drying at your skin as well, So I 134 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: think understanding at base where your skin's at, then recognizing 135 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: what your concerns are. So what you want to address, 136 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 2: is it acne, is it pigmentation? For all of us, 137 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: that should always be sun protection, and then finding products 138 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: which you know are reliable. So for sunscreens as an example, 139 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: there's no one sunscreen that I recommend. The best one 140 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: is one that you're going to apply every day, and 141 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: having a routine that is sustainable is really important. So 142 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: just like you brush your teeth every day, you want 143 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 2: to apply your sunscreen every day. For cleanses and moisturizers, again, 144 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: it's really just according to your skin complaints. So for 145 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: a lot of us, you know, our barrier can become 146 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: quite dysfunctional if you're applying multiple different harsh products all 147 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: the time. Start with active. An example would be you 148 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: know a product that contains a retinol, rettinou or prescription retinoid, 149 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: and then slowly build that into your team. When we 150 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: see people adding in lots of different products all at once, 151 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 2: that's when we actually see a lot of other problems 152 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: with our skin. It starts to cause barrier dysfunction. So 153 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: going slowly and just adding in one active at a time, 154 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: should you choose so interesting? 155 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: Simple is always best when it comes to health, wellness 156 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: and absolutely yeah, Stephanie, thank you for joining us today. 157 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: Thanks very much. 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