1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Well, good morning Melbourne. It is just gone seventeen away. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Tomiroles Smith there, you're on the air with Jason Lauren 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: Clint's here as well. Very special one of these. 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: Today, Jason Lawrence, tell me what you know. 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: We love the Victorian Police. We catch up with different 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: areas of the cops. I went diving with the water Police. 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: We normally have Cheesy, our resident friendly cop in Today 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: we've got his boss, commanded. Tim Tully's joining us on 9 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: the YIR Good Morning team. 10 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 3: Good morning morning to him. Thanks for being here. 11 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 4: You've had a lot of silverware on your shoulders. 12 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 3: It's a heavy burden a bit. 13 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 4: Ye, you've got a big job, don't you. 14 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 3: Looking after Cheesey. Yes, he's a great lad. He is 15 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 3: a good man che he really is. 16 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 4: But we're excited to have a big dog commander. 17 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: It's a big day here in Victoria. We've heard a 18 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: lot about the machete band which comes into place at 19 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: midday in the wake of what was quite distressing scenes 20 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: at Northland at the weekend. A Victoria Police ready for 21 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: this machete ban. 22 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, as ready as we can be in terms of 23 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 5: the interim ban. So as of midday today there's an 24 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 5: interim ban on the sale of machetes, which is effective 25 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 5: right across the state. That's a complete ban on the 26 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 5: sale of machetes from midday. As I said, it's certainly 27 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 5: an interim ban until the permanent legislation is introduced and 28 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 5: permanent ban comes into effect on the firstest. 29 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: What would be the difference then when the permanent band 30 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: comes in. 31 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 5: Certainly the legislation comes into effect on the first of September, 32 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 5: so the interim ban, we hope, will choke the immediate 33 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 5: supply of machetes and hopefully prevent some of those getting 34 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 5: out onto the street at the moment in preparation for 35 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 5: the legislation that's introduced in them versus September. 36 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 6: So, as police officers, does this just give you an 37 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 6: extra thing to do to go around to all those 38 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 6: stores that are selling them and make sure they're doing 39 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 6: the right thing and they're not selling them. 40 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 5: My understanding is that the enforcement in that space we 41 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 5: have retailers that are selling machetes in defiance of the 42 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 5: interim ban, that will be something for the Consumer Affairs 43 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 5: Task Force to look into. So the enforcement activities will 44 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 5: be carried out by them, But that certainly will not 45 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 5: stop the police looking or continuing to target people who 46 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 5: are carrying machees. 47 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 2: So it's not police going door to door. It's going 48 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: to be consumer affairs Victoria. 49 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 3: Is it absolutely? 50 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 6: Which is good because you have enough on your plate. 51 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 6: You don't need to be policing what's happening in retail store. 52 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 5: And that's correct, and certainly we will assist where we can, 53 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 5: but it's consumer affairs taskles that. 54 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 4: We listen to that Do you think this is going 55 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 4: to make a difference. 56 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 5: I hope it will make a difference. And certainly anything 57 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 5: we can do to choke the supply and stem the 58 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 5: supply and flow of machetes or large deeds weapons out 59 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 5: into the street is a step in the right direction. 60 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 6: Because when we see things like what happened at Northland 61 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 6: and you hear stories about it being a fifteen year 62 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 6: old kid or a sixteen year old kid. Are those 63 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 6: kids currently allowed to go into a retail store and 64 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 6: buy a machete? 65 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 3: Can? No? No? I mean so they've got. 66 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 6: Them, they've acquired them illegally anyway, Absolutely so, is it 67 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 6: is this the right step forward? 68 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 5: Look, it is a step in the right direction in 69 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 5: terms of trying to stem the flow. Most certainly, we 70 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 5: look forward to the permanent band that comes into effect 71 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 5: on the first September and the range of other changes 72 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 5: to the legislation that will also asist. 73 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 4: It's a step in the right direction, exactly. 74 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: It's better than nothing, Tim Commander, This is quite personal 75 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: to me because I was involved in quite a violent 76 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: crime about a year and a half ago. If someone 77 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: lost their life and I can finally talk about it, 78 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: and I'm going to on the show tomorrow, but I've 79 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: been quite frustrated with how long this has taken, and 80 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: I can imagine you guys must. 81 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 3: Be just as frustrated. Look, why don't things get turned 82 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: around quicker? Look, it's a good question. 83 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 5: I suppose with any issue that issues, there are a 84 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 5: number of factors and issues that need to be considered 85 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 5: before we make wholesale changes to legislation. It certainly is 86 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 5: a welcome change. The legislation that comes to effect later 87 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 5: this year is a welcome change. You know, it can 88 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 5: be frustrat but you know, we have to make certain 89 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 5: that any changes to the legislation that are made, we're 90 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 5: factored in all the different stakeholders and all the different permutations. 91 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 5: So we don't cause other issues as a direct result. 92 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: There is already so much which is driven underground. Are 93 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 2: you concerned that knives, machetes, violent weapons will be driven 94 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 2: underground by this bent Look. 95 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: It's possible that will occur. 96 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 5: I think if you look at the classification of machetes 97 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 5: under the new legislation, it puts them in the sphere 98 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 5: of a prohibited weapon. There are a control weapon at 99 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 5: the moment, and without getting into the definitions, that's where 100 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 5: they will end up, certainly with a prohibited weapon. If 101 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 5: you do not have an exemption, you cannot bring into Victoria, 102 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 5: you cannot cause to be brought in Victoria. You cannot manufacture, 103 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 5: you cannot display or sell a prohibited weapon. 104 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: Well, I was just gonn as when we talking about machetes, 105 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: because we're ining this conversation off the air yesterday. 106 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 3: What's classed as a machete? 107 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 4: Well, I say, I wouldn't even know what a machete, hunting. 108 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 3: Knives, all that sort of stuff. 109 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 5: Look, I think a machete will have a definition in 110 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 5: terms of the length of the blade, and certainly what 111 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 5: we've seen what traditionally I think you know when I 112 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 5: was growing up, but I was around. Machete was at 113 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 5: a certain size and shape, and what you've seen in 114 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 5: recent times, they've certainly become you know, very very far 115 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 5: removed from what we were traditionally called a machete that 116 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 5: perhaps could be used in some form of employment. Certainly 117 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 5: they're gaining popularity online sales and the like. 118 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know the styles. 119 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 4: Of being sold online as well. 120 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 3: I think that's an area that will need to be 121 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 3: looked at. 122 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 2: Someone's caught with the machete as of mid day to 123 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: day on the streets, the clearly shouldn't have one. 124 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 3: What happened? 125 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 2: What recourse do you have? 126 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 5: So if someone today is found in possession of a 127 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 5: machete on the streets, it is still a controlled weapon 128 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 5: and they must have a reasonable excuse to actually do that. 129 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 5: So they must carry it in a secure manner that 130 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 5: is consistent with the lawful excuse. So a lawful excuse 131 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 5: will be lawful employment. It could be a sport or 132 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 5: a lawful recreation, or could be a legitimate display or collection. 133 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,119 Speaker 5: It is most certainly not for self defense. 134 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 6: Can you arrest someone for having someone or do you 135 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 6: confiscate it if they've got it for the wrong reasons? 136 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 4: What powers to the police. 137 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 5: So I certainly there may be arrest powers there. Certainly 138 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 5: we can confiscate that. Certainly there are some search powers, 139 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 5: so we need to believe in reasonable grounds and possession. 140 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 5: There are other powers in terms of any search warrants 141 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 5: that we may have or if it's in a designated 142 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 5: area where we can actually search without reasonable. 143 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 3: And this is. 144 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 2: The first type of it's you know, the first ban 145 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: of its type in Australia. Remember the gun amnesty going 146 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 2: back into the nineties. This akin to the gun amnesty. 147 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 5: I think it could be in a way, So there's 148 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 5: a I think if you're going to have an amnesty, 149 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 5: then what you need to put in place. 150 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 4: What's an amnesty? 151 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 2: Sorry, you're basically in the way of the Port Arthur 152 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 2: mat Yeah, hand and you get exactly handing into the 153 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 2: guns that you. 154 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 5: Can do that obviously without comitting an offense. So to 155 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 5: actually do that you need the infrastructure and the processes 156 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 5: in place, and you need to be able to communicate 157 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 5: that to the community so they can actually attend a 158 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 5: place lawfully carrying it to actually hand it in. Certainly, 159 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 5: we don't want people, you know, at the moment walking 160 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 5: into police stations with machines and things like that. 161 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 3: We need, you. 162 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 6: Know, we need you made a plan and it must 163 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 6: be hard for you guys when things like this come 164 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 6: in so quickly, because there's been some criticism of the 165 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 6: Victorian government that this is a knee jerk reaction and 166 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 6: it's a band aid and it's actually putting the police 167 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 6: under more pressure. 168 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 5: Look, I think it's in our nature to pivot in 169 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 5: terms of the changes that come in as best we 170 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 5: possibly can. We understand that these things take time. But again, 171 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 5: I think the band today is a step in the right. 172 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: Well, team, you guys are working around the clock and 173 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: I know you spread thin already. Thank you for the 174 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: job you guys do. 175 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, you do an amazing job. Thank you very much, 176 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 4: and just quickly. 177 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 6: It must be frustrating when I know, I mean, I'm 178 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 6: outraged at these kids that were allegedly in this fighting 179 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 6: at Northland were out on bail, that you guys basketballs 180 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 6: to go and arrest them again and then they get 181 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 6: some of them get released back into the community. Do 182 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 6: you sometimes just put your hand in the air and go, 183 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 6: what are we doing this for? 184 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 5: Look, I think the new bail laws are certainly assisting 185 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 5: it's a step in the right direction. Again, it's certainly 186 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 5: made a difference, and we've. 187 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 4: Seen that, so you have seen that it's made a 188 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 4: different rebsolutely. 189 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 5: And I appreciate that our members sometimes get frustrated, but 190 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 5: I think they're very passionate about what they do. 191 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 3: Absolutely otherwise they wouldn't be. 192 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: Can't we just go back to the eighties where can 193 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: be like I've lost of the keys to the paddy 194 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: wagon they left to stay in there. 195 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 3: It doesn't work. That doesn't work like that. 196 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: Just very quickly, why are we seeing an explosion in 197 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 2: these violent attacks at shopping centers? Well, why do you 198 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 2: think the gangs are going to public places like this? 199 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 5: That's a really good question and I wish I knew 200 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 5: the answer. So certainly, when we have these types of incidents, 201 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 5: I think it's fair to say that they're not common. 202 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 5: But when we do have them, quite clearly they're in 203 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 5: a public environment and they impact on the community who 204 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 5: are just going about their business. It's very sad to 205 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 5: think that, you know, we have rival gangs that whatever 206 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 5: conflict or whatever issue is there, they think it's appropriate 207 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 5: to go out to a very public place and undertake 208 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 5: the behavior that we saw on the weekend. 209 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: I wish I knew the answer. I wish I knew 210 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 3: the answer to that. 211 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: It's a different world. 212 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: People should feel safe. 213 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's what I was going to say. 214 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 6: People are scared now to go to shopping, SeNSS to 215 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 6: go to these high traffic areas. Is that something Victoria 216 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 6: Police are looking at having a bigger police presence in 217 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 6: these really busy spots. 218 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 5: So I think what you'll see over the next couple 219 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 5: of days into the next couple of weeks that Northland 220 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 5: will have a visible policing presence and reassurance. 221 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 4: Patrols, just to make sure that that makes people feel. 222 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 5: Absolutely we want to feel safe when they go about 223 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 5: their normal business and day to day activities. I think 224 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 5: some of the new legislation that will come in in 225 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 5: terms of designated areas for a longer period of time 226 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 5: rather than say for the twelve hours that we've seen, 227 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 5: we'll make a difference as well. 228 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: Hey, we really appreciate your time this morning when I 229 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: was busy, commanded Tim Tully joining us on the air. 230 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 3: Thanks coming in, Tim, Thank you very much for my pleasure. 231 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 6: Victoria Police do a great job. We appreciate all of 232 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 6: you in frustrating and difficult. 233 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 2: Jason really straightened up. He was like, I've got a 234 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 2: call him commander. 235 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually went out and asked him for a hug. 236 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 3: And what did he say, Well, you're 237 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 6: Not Lauren l wake up feeling good following them on 238 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 6: the socials