1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,000 Speaker 1: What a day. 2 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 2: It's the first time we heard exactly how Aaron Patterson 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: is alleged to have murdered her lunch guests. The prosecution 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 2: says she deliberately poisoned the beef Wellington mill she served 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 2: her estranged husband's family, but the defense is something very 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: different happened that day. They say the lunch was a 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: tragedy and a terrible accident. I'm Brooke Greebert Craig, and 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: this is the Mushroom Cook. Wow, Laura, what a big 9 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 2: day in court. 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. I'm almost relieved that we're sitting down 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: to record this episode because I feel like we learnt 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: so much today that I need to unpack it all 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: with you. 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: My mind is literally exploding. I just can't believe it. 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, So we're going to try our hardest today to 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 1: break it all down for our listairs, but you might 17 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: need to bear with us because there is a lot 18 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: we have to get through. 19 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: So broadly, Laura, what happened today? 20 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: So today was the first time we heard the prosecution 21 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: put their case against Erin. They did that in their 22 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: opening address and I'm just going to repeat myself again, 23 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: but it's important we get this out of the way. 24 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: Erin has been charged with three counts of murder and 25 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: one count of attempted murder and she has pleaded not guilty. 26 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: So the prosecution today put forward their case and that 27 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: contained a lot of allegations, which is what we will 28 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: be unpacking today. 29 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: Okay, let's start with lunch. What do the prosecution say 30 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 2: happened the lunch? 31 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: We know what happened at Leanngatha, at Erin's home on 32 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: July twenty ninth, twenty twenty three. Five people were invited 33 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: to this lunch, Simon Patterson, her former husband, Simon's parents, 34 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 1: John and Gail Patterson, and Simon's aunt and uncle, Ian 35 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: and Heather Wilkinson. Simon never went to the lunch, but Don, Gail, 36 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: Ian and Heather all attended and they were all invited 37 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: at a church service. Yes, we did hear that today. 38 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: Eron went up to everyone at church and invited them 39 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: to her house for this lunch. 40 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: Simon initially said yes, that he was going to attend, 41 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: but he later texted Erin a day before the lunch 42 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: and said that he would not be going. 43 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: Yes, so we did hear that from Nannette Roger's sc 44 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: She is the Crown prosecutor, so she was the one 45 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: today walking the jury through the prosecution case. 46 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: So, Laura, all four guests arrived to Aaron Patterson's house together. 47 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, and Ian and Heather actually had never 48 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: been to her house before, so the lunch almost started 49 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: with a little bit of a tour. Aaron showed them 50 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: around the house and then soon after lunch was served. 51 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: And I think we should make it clear that Aaron 52 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: and Simon's kids were not present at the lunch at all. 53 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: Yes, that is important to note. 54 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: So Aeron served her guests individual beef Wellington's on different 55 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 2: colored plates. 56 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: The prosecution described to us how when the lunch was 57 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: being served, there were four gray plates and then there 58 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: was another plate. The prosecution says this was a tanned 59 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: orange plate, and when it came time for everyone to 60 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: sit at the ten, it was the four lunch guests 61 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: who had the gray plate, and Aaron ate her serve 62 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: of the beef Wellington off that tanned orange plate. 63 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: As well as the beef Wellington. They also had mashed 64 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: potato and green beans on their plates. We heard from 65 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 2: the prosecution that Ian and Heather ate their whole portion 66 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 2: of their beef Wellington. We heard that Gail ate half 67 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: and don ate his portion and Gale's half. 68 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: Yes, And then after that we also heard there was 69 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: some cake and a fruit platter to finish off the lunch. 70 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 2: So Laura, for the first time we heard why Aaron 71 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: invited the guests to a house for lunch. 72 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: Yes, so we heard that she wanted their advice. She 73 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: mentioned there being a medical issue that had cropped up 74 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: in her life and she was wondering the best way 75 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: to tell her children about it. 76 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: Aaron then said that she had an ovarian cancer diagnosis, 77 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: and the guest said it was best to be honest 78 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: with the kids about it. 79 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: And I think it's important at this point to say 80 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: that the prosecutions say this claim was deliberately false. Arin 81 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: does not have cancer. Her defense barrister Colin Mandy, and 82 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: we will talk more about what he had to say 83 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: in his opening address today, but he made it clear 84 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: in his address that Aaron does not have cancer and 85 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: that claim was false. 86 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: And then the prosecution said that Erin used this false 87 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: claim to ensure and explain then why the children would 88 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: not be present at that lunch on July twenty nine. 89 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,559 Speaker 1: All right, so I think we should take a step 90 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: back now and let's talk about the mushrooms. It's not 91 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: in dispute that Don, Gail and Heather all passed away 92 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: after falling victim to death cat mushroom poisoning. That was 93 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: made pretty clear today in court, wasn't it. 94 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: Yes, that's correct. So what we heard from the prosecution 95 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: is that Aaron told multiple doctors, nurses and also the 96 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: Department of Health that she actually sourced the mushrooms from 97 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 2: a local Woolworths in lean Gatha, and then she also 98 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 2: sourced dried mushrooms from a Chinese grosser and that was 99 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: in either Oaklegh, glen Waverley, Mount Waverley or Layton, but 100 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 2: she couldn't remember where exactly she got those dried mushrooms from. 101 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: And for our listeners who don't know, those final four 102 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: suburbs are located in Melbourne Southeast. 103 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 2: Erin was also asked by doctors whether she actually foraged 104 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: the mushrooms and she denied those allegations multiple times. I 105 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: think it's also important to note that the prosecution says 106 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: that the Department of Health received no other reports of 107 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: people falling ill and no mushroom products were pulled or 108 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: record Okay, Laura, now let's move on to the dehydrator. 109 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: Can you tell me what we learned from the prosecution. 110 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: The prosecution walked us through what happened after the lunch, 111 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: and one part of this was surrounding the dehydrator. A 112 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: dehydrator is a kitchen appliance that you can use for 113 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: various purposes, but mainly, like its name suggests, it's to 114 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: dehydrate food items. So the dehydrada that Erin had at 115 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: her house, it was found by police days later at 116 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: a local tip near her home. It was forensically examined 117 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: and there were found to be traces of deathcap mushrooms 118 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: on this dehydrata. But I will just say at this 119 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: point that the defense admits that Erin did get rid 120 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: of this dehydrada. They're not trying to shy away from it. 121 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: They admit she got rid of it at the tip. 122 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: The defense told the jury today in their opening address 123 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: that their client did tell a number of lies in 124 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: the aftermath of the lunch. They say she panicked because 125 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: she was overwhelmed by the fact that three guests, three 126 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: people close to her, had died following a meal at 127 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: her home. Another lie that the defense admits their client 128 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: told was that she had never foraged for mushrooms before 129 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: she told police that she had never done it. But 130 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: mister Mandy said today that she admits she did forage 131 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: for ushrooms, but she denies that she ever deliberately sought 132 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: out death cap mushrooms. Just to reiterate, though, the defense 133 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: says that the lunch was a terrible accident and that 134 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: miss Pattison did not deliberately poison that meal with death 135 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: cap mushrooms. 136 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 2: Okay, Laura, So moving on to the next topic. The 137 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 2: prosecution says that Aaron said her two kids ate leftovers 138 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 2: of the beef welling to mill the next day for dinner. 139 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: Is that right, Yes, So, according to the prosecution, Aaron 140 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: scraped off the mushrooms because the children didn't like them, 141 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: and she told them as well that these were leftovers 142 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: from that Saturday lunch. But again, it is important to 143 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: note that the children did not fall ill and they 144 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: did not have any symptoms of death cap mushroom poisoning. 145 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: Now, let's go back to our lunch guests, Don Gale 146 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: Patterson and Heather and Ian Wilkinson. They got really sick 147 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: days after that lunch. 148 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: Yes, very sick. Indeed, we had a lot of detail 149 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: in court today about their symptoms and what the final 150 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: day of their lives were like. 151 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: So in the days following the lunch, all four guests 152 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 2: moved around to different hospitals and they all ended up 153 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 2: at the Austin Hospital and they were all critically unwell. 154 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: Don, Gail, and Heather continued to deteriorate over those final days, 155 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: and they got to a point where the doctors that 156 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: were taking care of them were of the opinion that 157 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: the illness was unsurvivable, that there was nothing they could 158 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: do for them. 159 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: So, sadly, Heather and Gail died on August four, and 160 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: then Don died a day later on August five. 161 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: But Ian's condition did improve over the following days and 162 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: he was eventually discharged following weeks of treatment in hospital. 163 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: So the prosecution spoke a bit today about Aaron's presentation 164 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: at Lee and Gatha Hospital two days after the lunch. 165 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: By this stage, the lunch guests had been admitted and 166 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: were quite unwell, and Erin arrived at the hospital and 167 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: very quickly one of the doctors there realized that she 168 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: was the fifth person at this lunch and that she 169 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: was the person who hosted it. He explained that they 170 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: were worried the guests had fallen ill with death cap 171 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: mushroom poisoning and that she was at risk herself. But 172 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: the prosecution told the jury that Erin told doctors that 173 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: she had experienced symptoms they included diarrhea, but she reiterated 174 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: to them that she needed to leave and that she 175 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: was not prepared to stay in hospital. But it is 176 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: really important here to note that the defense said it 177 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: was disputed that Erin feigned sickness after the lunch. They 178 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: said that she wasn't pretending to be sick. Their case 179 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: was that she was sick too, just not as sick. 180 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: Okay. So now a website was mentioned to the jury. 181 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,479 Speaker 2: It's called Eye Naturalist. So the website is a platform 182 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 2: about plants, animals and fungi, and in particular in this case, 183 00:09:55,720 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 2: you can log mushrooms that you find across Victoria. Can 184 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: you tell me a little bit more how this relates 185 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: to the case. 186 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: Yes, And I'll just say from the top that dates 187 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: are really important here. So on April eighteen, the prosecution 188 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: said there was a mushroom expert who found death caps 189 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: under an oak tree in Locke, which is near ly 190 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: On Gutha, and posted it on this website Our Naturalist 191 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: About ten days later, the prosecution said Erin's phone data 192 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: suggested she was in this same area. A month later, 193 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: there was a second post on this website by another expert. 194 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: This post was made on May twenty one. The expert 195 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: said they had found death caps along a street in Outram, 196 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: which is another area close to lean Gatha. 197 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: And so did Aarin travel to this area as well? 198 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: Well? The prosecutions say the very next day, on May 199 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: twenty two, she traveled to this area as well as 200 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: going back to Locke, the place where those first mushrooms 201 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: were posted by the first expert. 202 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: So, in summary, the prosecution as saying that Aaron travel 203 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: to both of these locations after she saw these posts 204 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: on the Eye Naturalist website. 205 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: Yes, and that is the prosecution case. 206 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: Now let's move on. The prosecution said today that Aaron 207 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 2: had two phones. Can you talk more about that? Yes. 208 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: The allegation is that she had two phones and one 209 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: phone was never recovered from police and including with that, 210 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: the simcard was never recovered. The phone that police did recover, 211 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: they believe it was factory reset on three separate occasions, 212 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: including remotely after it was seized by police. 213 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 2: Gosh, that was a lot from the prosecution. Was there 214 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: anything else that they said that we needed to know? Yeah? 215 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: One final thing to note was the prosecution did not 216 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: offer a motive, but it is important to remember that 217 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: the prosecution don't need to prove a motive in murder trials. 218 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 2: Okay, so we've talked about the prosecution. I reckon we 219 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 2: should move on to the defense. They didn't have a 220 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: lot to say, did they, Laura. 221 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: No, they didn't, and that is really standard. The opening 222 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: address made by the defense in any trial is usually 223 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: a lot shorter than the prosecutions. It's just a response. 224 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: They don't have to start arguing over the allegations the 225 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: prosecution made. They just need to summarize how they put 226 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: their case. We mentioned him before Erin's defense, barrister Colin Mandy. 227 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: He said today that it was important that the jury 228 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: remembered that Erin was innocent until proven guilty. 229 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: So we haven't really been able to speak about everything 230 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: that happened in court today. There was a lot of information, 231 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: but we will touch upon different points later on. 232 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: Yes, this trial is going for six weeks, so the 233 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: day of the openings is always a very big day 234 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: for jurors as well. There's a lot that they are 235 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: taking in for the first time, but both parties will 236 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: walk the jurors through all of this evidence across the trial, 237 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: so rest assured there will be plenty of detail to come. 238 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: Thanks Laura, so make sure you stay tuned for all 239 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 2: our coverage heading to the mushroomcook dot com dot au 240 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 2: m