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Speaker 1: Apodshape Production.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of Am I A Bad Mom?

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Speaker 1: Podcast?

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Speaker 2: As we slide slowly towards the school holiday, not slowly

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Speaker 2: at all, We're speeding down there.

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Speaker 3: We're almost at the end of term too. Yeah, that's crazy, man.

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Speaker 1: You know, if.

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Speaker 2: One's going on about how fast the years are going.

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Speaker 1: At the moment, you know why why?

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Speaker 2: Because we're always on our phones and we're always entertained.

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Speaker 2: I really think that's got something to.

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Speaker 1: Do with it.

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Speaker 2: That's the reason why we're going, Oh my god, like

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Speaker 2: it's literally been a year since, you know, because we're

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Speaker 2: never bored, we never have time just to sit. We're

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Speaker 2: doing too much as we do.

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Speaker 1: I think. Also, there's that other part of you that

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Speaker 1: just goes when your kids hit school.

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Speaker 3: We laughed about it, and I remember being so wrapped

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Speaker 3: up in wanting them to get to school so fast

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Speaker 3: because everyone was like, no, no, no, Once your.

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Speaker 1: Kids get to school, it'll fly by.

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Speaker 3: And you go, that's just what everyone says to make

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Speaker 3: you feel better, because toddler years feel like they're the

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Speaker 3: longest years of your life. And then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: you really are in school and life is going way

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Speaker 3: too quick. And then all of a sudden, you're halfway

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Speaker 3: through the year.

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Speaker 2: We've got two years left of school. That's it. You

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Speaker 2: think about how fast a year is going.

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Speaker 1: I know is left at school. I've got a high

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Speaker 1: schooler next year.

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Speaker 3: I'm not meant to be a mum of a high schooler.

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Speaker 3: No you want to I don't look like a high

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Speaker 3: schooler's mom.

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Speaker 1: No, someday. I'm not sad about school being done. Absolutely

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Speaker 1: or not.

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Speaker 3: Your fees are running out one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: You're stoked for it.

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Speaker 3: I don't blame you.

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Speaker 1: I'm just starting that shit.

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Speaker 3: Am I a bad mum for not being there to

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Speaker 3: say goodbye?

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Speaker 1: Where did she say?

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Speaker 3: I have a child whom has been counting down The

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Speaker 3: days she has been counted down, like the minutes she's

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Speaker 3: been that excited. Gracie girl went off on her grade

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Speaker 3: six senior camp.

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Speaker 1: So the last camp of primary school? Yeah, she is pumped.

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Speaker 1: How many camps has she been on? It was last year?

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Speaker 1: The first one they do grade three or grade four.

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Speaker 3: They do a sleepover at school that's there, like technically

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Speaker 3: their little sleepover three Yeah, and then they go to.

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Speaker 1: School five six?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Where do they sleep in the big multi purpose shelter.

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Speaker 1: It's indoors, like a whole type thing.

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Speaker 2: God, that would be a nightmare for those teachers.

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Speaker 1: Imagine all the kids in that one room.

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Speaker 2: Did the teacher sleep.

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Speaker 1: In their day? I wouldn't know. Sounds I wouldn't attend

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Speaker 1: it sounds horrible. That's when it starts.

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Speaker 3: This is the big one, and this is the big finale,

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Speaker 3: because you know, being a senior going into high school,

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Speaker 3: she was off to camp.

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Speaker 1: So they're going to Tellabudra.

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Speaker 2: The reason I asked how many camps she's been on

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Speaker 2: is because so she's still enjoying going on camp loves.

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Speaker 2: That's so good because I remember the girls went to

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Speaker 1: Camp in grade what five five?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the next year they were like, oh, we

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Speaker 1: At home, that's the problem. Yeah, Gracie is pumped for it.

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Speaker 3: She's been pumped for it. We've had the forms since

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Speaker 3: the start of term two.

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Speaker 1: And it's finally here.

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Speaker 3: Just she's beyond excited, like riding me every day to

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Speaker 3: sign that you haven't signed it.

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Speaker 1: You haven't signed my consent form. I need all the

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Speaker 1: medical forms I need.

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Speaker 3: I said, I know. When they do back like it's

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Speaker 3: very rare that I do know anything about.

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Speaker 1: School, but she she knows you.

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Speaker 3: But I was like, I know, I've got another two days.

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Speaker 3: But now we came the full circle. I've let her

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Speaker 3: go do the packing because we've discussed this, right. You

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Speaker 1: I remember this. I don't know because I came up

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Speaker 2: So I read out the list, ye, and I said,

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Speaker 2: have you got a waterproof jacket? No, we're not taking

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Speaker 2: a waterproof jacket? Really, what's this on the list? You're

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Speaker 2: supposed to take a waterproof jacket. No, no one's taking it.

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Speaker 2: They're not cool. So it turns out it rained. Everyone

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Speaker 2: else had a waterproof jacket. They didn't. They got wet. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was like, what'says some there take a waterproof jacket?

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Speaker 1: Just take it. So here we are, Katie.

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Speaker 3: Flip that and now I'm doing the same thing as you.

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Speaker 3: Now had you in the back of my head, and

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Speaker 3: I was having a bit of a giggle because we

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Speaker 3: that we needed to so we were organized, but the

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Speaker 3: actual physical packing. I was like, we're not doing it

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Speaker 3: till the day before. You do not need to pack

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Speaker 3: it any earlier. And so I said, here's the list.

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Speaker 3: Take it to your room, put it out, lay it

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Speaker 3: all on your bed, and I'll come check it. So

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to do my best with like letting her

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Speaker 3: be grown up and take the responsibility and all the rest.

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Speaker 1: She lays it all out.

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Speaker 3: The one moment though, O Katie that I was laughing

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Speaker 3: at was like she had the wet weather jacket out.

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Speaker 1: Don't want to take it, You've got to eat it.

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Speaker 1: It says something of that.

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Speaker 3: And then it was like strictly like no tortures, no makeup,

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Speaker 3: no this, no that. I open her toilet tree bag

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Speaker 3: and she has got what's that smelly stuff that they

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Speaker 3: all love that you you know, the.

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Speaker 1: Four of them in there.

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Speaker 3: Four. I was like, for what, it's not a like

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Speaker 3: share a communal salty Gennaro party. Take them out. It

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Speaker 3: says strictly no makeup. Oh no, no, no, I didn't

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Speaker 3: write this list.

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Speaker 1: Do what the list says.

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Speaker 2: And also because I go, you've got limited amount of

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Speaker 2: space if you're taking four body sprays like you've got

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Speaker 2: to think about what's practical.

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Speaker 1: I just said to it.

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Speaker 3: One is planning to go with your face wash and

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Speaker 1: That is it.

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Speaker 3: She had in their eye patches for what face masks?

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Speaker 3: She had both of those sid for what You're not

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Speaker 3: stopping to do a facial at I take it out anyway,

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Speaker 3: long story short, she did extremely well with packing, but

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Speaker 3: there was like a moment where I was like, your

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Speaker 3: pajamas are for summer.

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Speaker 1: These small Peter Alexander silk shorts just what you want

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Speaker 1: taken to camp. I was like, you can't take those?

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Speaker 3: Oh what?

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Speaker 1: Because it's freezing.

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Speaker 3: The teachers even sent another email today on Sunday Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: it is actually anticipating it to be a.

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Speaker 1: Really cold week. Please pack appropriately. Do you want me

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Speaker 1: to show you the email too? I was like, just

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Speaker 1: change it to some trackies.

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Speaker 3: Just trust me. I promise, I'm not leading you a

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Speaker 3: straight I didn't see any of our underwear, so hopefully

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Speaker 3: she packed some now I.

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Speaker 1: Think about it.

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Speaker 3: Fuck.

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Speaker 1: Then and there was two other things. One was a

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Speaker 3: White denim shorts. Yeah, I said, I don't think they're required.

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Speaker 1: Why what's wrong with them? They're white. They're going to

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Speaker 1: be trash, baby.

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Speaker 3: You okay with losing them after this because they won't

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Speaker 3: bounce back from it. I saw the things that they

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Speaker 3: you're just trying to like, basically, she was trying to

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Speaker 3: say that I'm ruining her life. Yeah, because she can't

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Speaker 3: wear white cargoes at a grade six camp.

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Speaker 2: So I have the same battle with the girls at

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Speaker 2: their age about taking good clothes to school camp. I'm like, no,

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Speaker 2: you don't take that because they like it. So if

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Speaker 2: they've got something that you know, they have white fox hoodies, right,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, you're not taking those camp?

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Speaker 3: Why not?

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Speaker 2: Because they're nice? You don't take nice stuff to school camp.

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Speaker 2: You have to take stuff that you're okay with getting

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Because that's what I was saying to her. You

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Speaker 3: If you were to a lose this or be trash

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Speaker 3: accepting that. So that's where it's coming from I'm not

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Speaker 3: trying to ruin your life in grade six, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 2: Trying to make sure that you don't ruin your stuff

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Speaker 2: and that you have a rain jacket.

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Speaker 1: But you have a range to wrap it up. And

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Speaker 1: then had to break the news.

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Speaker 3: Once we'd packed, we put it all together and it

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Speaker 3: looked great, Oh yeah, I'm not going to be there

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Speaker 3: tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 1: Just sacred bye. She looked at me. I said, one minute,

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Speaker 1: you can't even be bothered with me.

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Speaker 3: I was like, in the next minute, you want me

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Speaker 3: there to hold your hand to see.

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Speaker 1: You want a bus to go to camp? Make up

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Speaker 1: your mind. I said, I've got to be at work.

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Speaker 1: I'm really sorry. She was devastated.

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Speaker 3: So I rang the morning of the camp and said,

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Speaker 3: just ringing today quickly, good luck, a facetiming her.

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Speaker 1: She was like, oh, I'm so nervous. I said, you're

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Speaker 1: going to be fine. It's a whole week. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: it's a whole week away.

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Speaker 2: I was like, she there for a whole week, Katie,

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Speaker 2: Why is arschool camp only two nights a whole week?

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Speaker 1: Two nights Sunday to Friday. That's so good, is it?

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Speaker 1: You've got a whole week.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't because I've still got second child and

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Speaker 3: she's still there.

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Speaker 2: But I would have a whole week because I've got twins.

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Speaker 2: They'd both be gone for a whole week.

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Speaker 3: That was why I wanted to sign my girls up

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Speaker 3: to Saint Peter's. They go away for a whole month

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Speaker 3: in grade nine. A month, a month of no contact. No,

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Speaker 3: they go no screens, they go into like real life learning,

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Speaker 3: real life a month. Yeah, but imagine in grade nine too,

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Speaker 3: because it's such a big year of.

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Speaker 1: Change for all of them.

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Speaker 3: Apparently everyone that I've spoken to you is said that

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Speaker 3: it's almost life changing for them.

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Speaker 2: It would be a month a month.

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Speaker 1: So there I am going, how do I sign up to?

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say how much that costs? And then

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Speaker 2: I was like, whatever, don't Yeah, I paid whatever. You'd

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Speaker 2: already one month. Imagine me, I'd have a whole month.

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Speaker 3: Imagine your girls with no devices for a whole month.

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Speaker 2: Even now when they go away to camp, they hate

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Speaker 2: going to camp, the like trying to do everything to

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Speaker 2: get out of it. I even made them go on

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Speaker 2: their birthday that one day. Remember that year it's on

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Speaker 2: their birthday like that. They were like, this is their

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Speaker 2: worst birthday ever. A month ow, it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: What school of this? Saint Peter's Okay, Yeah, too late

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Speaker 1: for your babe. They don't do that. I've still got time.

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Speaker 1: You've already missed the boat. Are you going to move

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Speaker 1: out school?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've already signed them both up, but they're on

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Speaker 3: the wait list.

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Speaker 1: You need to be in the catchment area. That's fine,

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Speaker 1: right the house