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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Fear and Greed summer series. I'm Michael

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Speaker 1: Thompson and today the best tech story you might have

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Speaker 1: missed this year. Stephen Fennick is the editor of tech

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Speaker 1: Guide dot com dot a U. Stephen, welcome back to

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Speaker 1: Fear and Greed.

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Speaker 2: I'm Michael. Great to be back.

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Speaker 1: Tech news is relentless, right there are always new devices,

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Speaker 1: there's new things to be talking about, and there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of drama behind the scenes as well. What's the

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Speaker 1: most important tech story this year that you think might

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Speaker 1: have perhaps slipped under the radar a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I think we really need to acknowledge how well Australia

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Speaker 2: performs in the tech market. Australians and Australian companies do

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Speaker 2: quite well. Like a couple of examples off the top

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Speaker 2: of my head would be Canvas, which has just gone

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Speaker 2: through the roof a lot of people. I think they

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Speaker 2: listed on the share market and we're worth billions of dollars.

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Speaker 2: They've used every day. They've become kind of the Microsoft

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Speaker 2: of the twenty first century. They've got these applications of

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Speaker 2: people incorporating into their workflow. The other company is Road

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Speaker 2: who make great microphones and the roadcasters and video road

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Speaker 2: casters and all kinds of devices for content creators, and

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Speaker 2: I'm using a couple of them right now as a

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Speaker 2: matter of fact, So I reckon. And the good thing

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Speaker 2: about road too is that they sell to the world,

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Speaker 2: but their factory is right here in Sydney, in the

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Speaker 2: Silver Water in the Sydney suburb is where they produce

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Speaker 2: all of their products and ship it to the world.

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, actually, because there is so much focus

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Speaker 1: when we're talking about tech that you think about Apple,

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Speaker 1: you think about Samsung and LG and all of these

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Speaker 1: the big tech giants, and you don't think about the

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Speaker 1: homegrown success stories. And Canvas is a great one because

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Speaker 1: what they've done with making graphic design accessible and easy

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Speaker 1: and affordable as well, which has really displaced then Photoshop

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Speaker 1: and others and made graphic design something that anyone can

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Speaker 1: have a crackout, and sure a professional is still going

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Speaker 1: to be able to do a better job, but you're

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Speaker 1: not going to embarrass yourself if you use.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely you know, you're right. I think Canvas really jumped in.

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Speaker 2: So all those major services now Microsoft Office and Adobe

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Speaker 2: Creative Cloud, there are all subscription services and they're not

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Speaker 2: cheap and canvas. This young upstart that's come through the

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Speaker 2: gap here and really won a lot of customers. As

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Speaker 2: you said, there's simplicity of creating thumbnails. I use it

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Speaker 2: to create my YouTube thumbnails and my podcast thumbnails and

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Speaker 2: various other things, and it's so easy to do, so

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate that. But Ozsi is also excel in

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Speaker 2: app development too. We see a lot of app developers

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Speaker 2: gaming developers as well. A lot a lot of game

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Speaker 2: houses publishers are here in Australia. Also, like half Brick

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Speaker 2: is a very popular Australian game makers will always figure.

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Speaker 2: I think Fruit Ninja is one of their massive, massive

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Speaker 2: games as well.

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Speaker 1: They produce that Ninja that was a big hit about

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Speaker 1: ten year years ago or something.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's still out there here. It's a remarkable game

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Speaker 2: that is, it still has a life for people still

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Speaker 2: playing it. But it really just the app economy I

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Speaker 2: think in Australia, thanks to companies like half Brick and

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Speaker 2: these other developers, is really doing well.

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Speaker 1: And the one that you mentioned before as well, Road

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Speaker 1: is an interesting example because they are physically making something

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Speaker 1: as well. It is not just developing apps, it's not

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Speaker 1: developing software. And Road did a spectacular job of making

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Speaker 1: again affordable products, and particularly during the COVID years when

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Speaker 1: there was an absolute boom in the demand for microphones,

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Speaker 1: when everybody was starting up a podcast Fear and Greed.

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Speaker 1: It was one of those that started during CLEO and

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Speaker 1: we bought road mics because they were affordable and a

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Speaker 1: good quality product and Australian made too.

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Speaker 2: Really, they've led the way with the Roadcaster as I'm

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Speaker 2: talking through one of this as we speak, and I

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Speaker 2: have a lot of their other products as well. We

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Speaker 2: produce our video Trevor Long and I produce our video

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Speaker 2: podcast through their video roadcasts. We've been the guinea pigs

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Speaker 2: actually helping them improve the product. But an another company

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Speaker 2: too that really came through and offering similar products is

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Speaker 2: black Magic Design. Black Magic produced a lot of amazing cameras,

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Speaker 2: like cinema grade cameras that are also doing really well.

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Speaker 2: They also have a lot of products for video production

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Speaker 2: as well. But it's really great to see that a

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Speaker 2: lot of these companies, and of course so black Magic

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Speaker 2: Design also have the Da Vinci Resolve software too, which

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Speaker 2: is the go to video editing software for every video

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Speaker 2: professional I've spoken to. And so yeah, so good to

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Speaker 2: see Ossie's flying the flag in the tech world producing

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Speaker 2: great products, whether it's software and hardware for the world

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Speaker 1: What about Blue Ant.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Blue Ant Maker, I think there are really underrated company.

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Speaker 2: They make really good speakers and headphones, a lot of

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Speaker 2: Bluetooth products. Hence that's the reason why they call Blue Ant.

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Speaker 2: They've got a lot of Bluetooth products as well. They've

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Speaker 2: got a great sound Blade. I actually use it in

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Speaker 2: for my Max studio. It's a great speaker system for

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Speaker 2: my Max studio.

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Speaker 1: A sound Blade.

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Speaker 2: Sound Blade, So it's a really thin speaker that sits

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Speaker 2: in front of your monitor, and so it's not tall

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Speaker 2: enough to it's like a like a soundbar for your computer,

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Speaker 2: but it's thinner and wider than a sound bar and

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Speaker 2: absolutely sounds amazing. You've got a Subwolfer built in and everything,

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Speaker 2: so really makes your computer come to life.

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Speaker 1: Ah, that is amazing, all right. So broadly Ossie companies

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Speaker 1: doing well, headlined by Candor of course, because they are

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Speaker 1: just such a big, big company and kind of inching

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Speaker 1: towards an IPO likely to be in the US and

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Speaker 1: worth billions of dollits. But some other great success stories

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Speaker 1: not just developing software, but physically developing products and in

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Speaker 1: Rhods case, making them here in Australia. Is that is

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Speaker 1: a fantastic text story and you're right, probably doesn't get

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Speaker 1: enough attemption.

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Speaker 2: Not many people would have known about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a ripper Stephen, thank you for talking to

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Speaker 1: Fear and Green summer series.

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Speaker 2: My pleasure. Thanks Michael.

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Speaker 1: That was Stephen Fennick, editor of tech Guide dot com

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Speaker 1: dot AU. Don't forget to follow on the podcast, new

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Speaker 1: episodes every day during our summer series and regular shows

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Speaker 1: back from January twelve. I'm Michael Thompson and this is

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