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Speaker 1: episode of the Daily Telegraph Errol Podcast. Adam Mob's here
Speaker 1: with you with Fatima Cado. How are you going, Fatima?
Speaker 2: I am well and went on, but well.
Speaker 1: Underwell Tyson Jackson who jumping in the hot seat this
Speaker 1: week and you and I've got a little bit of
Speaker 1: sideband going at the moment because I'm an ils man
Speaker 1: and you're a Tiger supporter, and we thought round twenty
Speaker 1: seven might be the wooden spoon by my friend, but
Speaker 1: you might have just got the jump on you after
Speaker 1: last weekend.
Speaker 3: Ah, there's still a couple of weeks left. I wouldn't
Speaker 3: get to ahead of yourself. I jumped on the ladder
Speaker 3: predicted last night and the Tiger's still going to finish
Speaker 3: sixteenth and there's only one team they'll finish below that.
Speaker 4: So I'll leave that to your imagination.
Speaker 5: On your left, questioning Mobs, where where that performance from
Speaker 5: the Ills was six eight weeks ago? Look, well, maybe
Speaker 5: it's a it's a taste of they're just resigned to
Speaker 5: the fact that the season is done and there's that
Speaker 5: less pressure and no.
Speaker 1: Well you look last week they were the better team
Speaker 1: in the first half against Melbourne and trailed. They threw
Speaker 1: a couple of trial, gave a couple of tries up,
Speaker 1: they had all the possession.
Speaker 6: You look back earlier in the year, they should have beaten.
Speaker 1: Canary that time when they didn't know Mitch Moses should
Speaker 1: have iced that game. They were in it against the
Speaker 1: Roosters that time. There was three games in the middle.
Speaker 1: I think the Gold Coast was the other one. That
Speaker 1: games they should have one that would have you look
Speaker 1: at that roster. They're not a wooden spoon roster enough.
Speaker 1: It's tice, but yeah, but it is.
Speaker 4: What it is.
Speaker 5: And they did play in patches this year where you're
Speaker 5: got your thinking like, how is this team at bottom
Speaker 5: of the roster, bottom of the table even with all
Speaker 5: the injuries they've had in the setbacks and the rest
Speaker 5: of it. So maybe it's not as bad it Maybe
Speaker 5: it's not bottom of the barrel just yet. Maybe it
Speaker 5: might be if the chat on the radio this morning
Speaker 5: through that Mitch that the Dragons and monitoring Mitchell Moses's situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so is that in the same conversation that Mitchell
Speaker 1: wants to get somewhere where he's going to win a
Speaker 1: camp and Georgia Laura and that conversation.
Speaker 4: Come on, I'm anymore.
Speaker 2: Well, Flanet is a premiership winning coach, so he's got
Speaker 2: that over.
Speaker 1: Jason Royles, Well he is. And what about the what
Speaker 1: do you make of the Dragons at the weekend?
Speaker 4: Very good? I thought they were. They were very good.
Speaker 2: Yeah they were, they were good.
Speaker 5: I didn't realize it was Anthony Monday and Hudo. Is
Speaker 5: this another like generational thing that we should have about it?
Speaker 1: Well? Yeah, ninety nine Grand Final they were with a
Speaker 1: whisker of beating Melbourne. Obviously there was the Craig Smith.
Speaker 4: Incident in the call with Jamie Ayin's co.
Speaker 1: And the penalty try, but you know they were within
Speaker 1: a whisker winning it. When Mundine was it could have
Speaker 1: passed it right on the line when himself knocked it
Speaker 1: on and Chock said the next year, you know, we're
Speaker 1: going to charm who the real deal is. And Melbourne
Speaker 1: pumped them seventy to ten following they haven't won in
Speaker 1: twenty five years down there.
Speaker 4: But tell you what, what.
Speaker 1: Shane Flatagan's done with this team, that same roster as
Speaker 1: last year and to go down there to Melbourne, I
Speaker 1: don't care who you are, especially the Dragons after twenty
Speaker 1: five years to put in the performance they did and
Speaker 1: you're always sitting here watching this going, oh god, Melbourne
Speaker 1: are going to do something here. They're just going to
Speaker 1: find a way, find a way. And the Dragons held
Speaker 1: so firm in defense, unbelievable. Jaden Sewer I thought was
Speaker 1: terrific in attack.
Speaker 4: Again, he's been great.
Speaker 5: It's missing out on origin in that last game, I
Speaker 5: think it was, yeah, and they're just in terms of
Speaker 5: like physicality, conditioning fitness wise. They matched it with a
Speaker 5: storm the storm or obviously I know they've been sort
Speaker 5: of off the pace the last couple of weeks. They've
Speaker 5: probably got away with one last week they think. For
Speaker 5: the Dragons for me is when they're in that mood
Speaker 5: like they were against the storm.
Speaker 2: You know, they look like a top.
Speaker 5: Eight team, but then they get blown off the park
Speaker 5: every now and then, so they're still struggling for that
Speaker 5: consistency and I know that's something that Shane Flanagan is
Speaker 5: working on. But you know, the people derided their forward
Speaker 5: pack seems to be matching them.
Speaker 2: They've got really big outside backs. Zach Climax.
Speaker 5: I feel it's probably been a little bit off the
Speaker 5: pace since Origin, but you know, yeah, they look good
Speaker 5: and it sets up a massive game at Cobra against Canterbury.
Speaker 6: What do you think of Tyrrel Sloan's performance, Tice?
Speaker 3: I thought coming back and all the criticism, I thought
Speaker 3: it was was all right. I thought, you know, I
Speaker 3: spoke to Flano last week before they left for Melbourne,
Speaker 3: and I was surprised when Flano was very open and
Speaker 3: saying that he didn't want to bring him back.
Speaker 4: I thought that was not a tough call.
Speaker 3: But I mean to come and tell the media that
Speaker 3: you don't see many other coaches doing that. So that
Speaker 3: might have lit a rocket under tyrelle and I think
Speaker 3: after a win like that he probably keeps his spot.
Speaker 4: I'm so happy for him.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy because Flannel has not been backwards in
Speaker 1: coming forward about Tyrell Sloan's form and what he sees
Speaker 1: as deficiencies in his role as a fallback. You know,
Speaker 1: he's sometimes that, you know, willing to put your head
Speaker 1: in the areas that other people won't put them, that
Speaker 1: kind of thing. But obviously was the ball support runner
Speaker 1: that we saw on the weekend, of course, but you know,
Speaker 1: he didn't shirk his responsibilities at all.
Speaker 4: And they were they were so tough.
Speaker 1: They were so tough out there just supporting each other
Speaker 1: through the middle. And Flano has got him playing some
Speaker 1: really nice football. And I don't know about you guys,
Speaker 1: we'll get to this. I've got to be my eight
Speaker 1: for the rest of the season. I think they're going
Speaker 1: to play finals.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's it's kind of between.
Speaker 3: The Dragons will only make it the Titan Stone, so
Speaker 3: they need the Titans to drop off a couple of
Speaker 3: massive weeks though, like we said, that Bulldogs game is
Speaker 3: going to be unbelievable.
Speaker 4: Sell out a cogra.
Speaker 3: I'm a local there so you might see might.
Speaker 4: Get around, but yeah, I can't wait.
Speaker 3: Rugby League is a good place when the Dragons and
Speaker 3: the Bulldogs hopefully one day. The Tigers are doing well,
Speaker 3: so I'm excited. I think, yeah, like a world of momentum.
Speaker 3: The atmosphere comes Saturday night at Cogra is going to
Speaker 3: be unbelievable.
Speaker 5: It's going to be interesting because it's two very passionate
Speaker 5: you know, Sydney supporter Basis So. I think Flannel was
Speaker 5: on the radio this morning saying how much they love
Speaker 5: coming to Cogra to play because it is a different
Speaker 5: group of fans, you know, to the Ilawara so and
Speaker 5: we saw all the scenes at Bellmore they were carrying
Speaker 5: on like they just won the Grand Final. So they're
Speaker 5: probably going to take over the streets of Cogar as
Speaker 5: well if they win too. But it'll be the same
Speaker 5: for the Dragons, who you know, if they put themselves
Speaker 5: well and truly in the finals race, if they get
Speaker 5: over the Bulldogs, I think it's going to be it'll
Speaker 5: be interesting because they're both greedy teams when they can be,
Speaker 5: and they both can score points when they want to.
Speaker 5: But I think it's going to be a tight, closer,
Speaker 5: fair and I think defense is going to win this one,
Speaker 5: and they're both defensive minded coaches.
Speaker 3: So yeah, well looked. I looked last night. The Dragons
Speaker 3: have only won back to back games twice this year. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so massive tests. If that's their deficiency. There might be
Speaker 3: a bit of complacency. They have a real high one
Speaker 3: week and then the next week drop a bit. I
Speaker 3: don't know, but that's that's going to be the biggest
Speaker 3: test for them, is to go back to back, if
Speaker 3: only the third time this year. And I mean to
Speaker 3: get into that top eight mobs. You say the Dragons
Speaker 3: are in your eight. They need to be able to
Speaker 3: do that. If they can't do that, then you have
Speaker 3: to put a line to them.
Speaker 1: Well, the start off the year that way, didn't they
Speaker 1: They smashed the Titans away from home. He thought, oh wow,
Speaker 1: and I didn't pick him week one. So they're playing
Speaker 1: the Dolphins week too. I said, oh, I'm on the Dragons.
Speaker 1: They get pump thirty eight la.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Then they they beat teams like they beat the Warriors
Speaker 1: in Woongong.
Speaker 6: They got smashed by sixty by the Roosters.
Speaker 1: You know, they lose to the Sharks, they beat South,
Speaker 1: they get smashed by Canterbury. They come and beat the Dragons.
Speaker 1: Sorry that Panthers in fair records. It's a crazy stat.
Speaker 1: I think Aaron Wallace from Fox League had a weird
Speaker 1: stat that there's only one other team that's beaten Penrith
Speaker 1: and Melbourne home and away in a season and that
Speaker 1: was Paramatter in twenty twenty two in the last five years.
Speaker 4: But so he's saying the Dragons are going to win,
Speaker 4: They're going to win, They're going to go. This is well,
Speaker 4: they're in the anything from there.
Speaker 2: But that also says a bit about because I think
Speaker 2: after all those blobout scores they came back and win, right,
Speaker 2: They've been able to bounce back. So I think that
Speaker 2: says a lot about the kind of coach Flannel is
Speaker 2: and the way he's able to sort of lis a
Speaker 2: response from his side when they've just been in the dumps.
Speaker 2: But yeah, the key is consistency.
Speaker 5: If they can find that consistency, then you know, as
Speaker 5: Tyson said, you know, Cannavy are shown it can be consistent.
Speaker 5: All of a sudden, you've got these two sides that
Speaker 5: are struggled for a really long time playing some really
Speaker 5: good footy. And I mean, I guess if you're a
Speaker 5: Sydney footy fan, it's what you want.
Speaker 3: You can tell how the Dragons are going to go
Speaker 3: after the first fifteen minutes of a game. If they
Speaker 3: come out with that kind of bully mentality, that Shane
Speaker 3: Flanagan mentality, you know you're in for a rough night.
Speaker 3: Both times a versus Tigers this year, they've come out
Speaker 3: with that form and as a Tiger supporter, I'm like, going, no,
Speaker 3: you know, but then you see him sometimes when they
Speaker 3: don't come out with that form and that first impact,
Speaker 3: that first carry is not that well, you kind of go, oh,
Speaker 3: look to my Dragons mates, you guys are in for
Speaker 3: a rough day to day.
Speaker 1: But what impressed me most is you've got to do
Speaker 1: it for eighty minutes against the Storm because they will
Speaker 1: just pick you apart. And like I said, I was
Speaker 1: just waiting at one point for Melbourne to turn it
Speaker 1: on and just put on a move, blow them away
Speaker 1: and then okay, just do what Melbourne do and then
Speaker 1: they couldn't get the job done. So big game against
Speaker 1: Bulldogs who were great against I thought your writers played
Speaker 1: really well. It turned up read to play, but shows
Speaker 1: you how tight the comp can be.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And it was a strange game because there was
Speaker 5: a lot of blowout scores in that round as well,
Speaker 5: So I thought, you know, I don't know, maybe they're
Speaker 5: going to turn it on.
Speaker 2: But it was a really tight game. I mean, there
Speaker 2: were I was really.
Speaker 5: Surprised to see Ricky leave Ethan Strange out of that game.
Speaker 5: He played all year, this massive game they need to win.
Speaker 5: There's a final spot on the line, and sort of
Speaker 5: the way he explained it after the game was he
Speaker 5: felt like it was time to start managing his workload.
Speaker 5: It was really curious cool and I don't know whether
Speaker 5: I buy that. You know, he's played, he's played all year,
Speaker 5: he's built that combination on the edge, and then to
Speaker 5: pull him out of the game. I'm not gonna say
Speaker 5: that's the reason why they lost, but it was a
Speaker 5: curious decision.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they were, they were in it.
Speaker 5: There was just a couple of tries from Canarry that
Speaker 5: were just absolutely freaky.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: You saw Stephen Crichton with his chip over the shoulder,
Speaker 2: like how do you defend that? You know? And then
Speaker 2: Matt Burdon had been sort of.
Speaker 5: Kept his bomb sort of in the kit bag for
Speaker 5: weeks and weeks and then comes up with with a
Speaker 5: bomb and that I think Critter was on the other
Speaker 5: side of their field gathered, you know, gives it off
Speaker 5: to Fish josh Ada car and they score. So that
Speaker 5: was the that was the difference in the end. I
Speaker 5: think Burton's bomb so yeah in it, but still a
Speaker 5: game that they had to win because the Raiders, if
Speaker 5: you look at their own hand, and we're going to
Speaker 5: look at it a little bit later, it is it
Speaker 5: is tough. I don't think they could have afforded to
Speaker 5: drop those two points, to be honest.
Speaker 3: They shruggled to score points. I think defense on both
Speaker 3: sides wasn't really the issue. And you look at you
Speaker 3: look at the tries of the Bulldog scored and they weren't.
Speaker 3: Like this is just individual brilliance. But Ethan Strange. I mean,
Speaker 3: he's broken games open this year of them before. And
Speaker 3: I think Cook's a great player, you know, playing in
Speaker 3: the hards and he's a good backup player, but I
Speaker 3: think he really got a back young guys there to
Speaker 3: do a job.
Speaker 5: And that's what I find found strange, Right, he backed
Speaker 5: him all the way up until this point, and this
Speaker 5: is probably the biggest game of their season and he's
Speaker 5: not there so.
Speaker 4: And it looked like they missed him.
Speaker 6: I think I wonder what's going on there for Ricky
Speaker 6: to make that call.
Speaker 4: So we said it before.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, with Savage, right when Savage first
Speaker 5: came through it, I was like, oh, this kid's a prodigy,
Speaker 5: this kid's are that And Sticky sort of was bringing
Speaker 5: him in and out of the side, adamant that he
Speaker 5: was doing the right thing by him. I mean, eventually
Speaker 5: Savage came good. But yeah, it is strange since he's
Speaker 5: played the whole year.
Speaker 4: I've got to ask.
Speaker 1: I had the last rites fro him a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago, but officially now the Broncos have gone for
Speaker 1: the year. You talk about rosters that should be top
Speaker 1: eight rosters and teams that were what seventeen minutes away
Speaker 1: from a Grand Final and went until Nathan clearly work
Speaker 1: from his slumber last year.
Speaker 6: Where do you fix the Broncos? What is the issue?
Speaker 1: And they don't have a lot of players coming off
Speaker 1: contract the end of this year, Corio it's is still
Speaker 1: banning for a contract.
Speaker 4: They've got a couple.
Speaker 1: Of most of the guys are on deck and then
Speaker 1: come November one, you've got guys like Catoni Stags. So
Speaker 1: we're expecting Reese Walsh to sign a new deal soon
Speaker 1: and it's going to take up a lot of their
Speaker 1: salary cap as well of a significantly larger portion than
Speaker 1: it is currently. So I don't know if they're going
Speaker 1: to be able to hit the market to bring in replacements.
Speaker 5: When you look at them full strength, they don't need
Speaker 5: to be in the market.
Speaker 2: And I like, I understand something. So what's yeah, I
Speaker 2: know that's that's it. What's the issue?
Speaker 5: And the reality is I think they led into a
Speaker 5: half time here and didn't score a point and the
Speaker 5: Titans scored seven tries in the second half.
Speaker 2: You know, that's a team.
Speaker 5: And I think Kevy said it like there was just
Speaker 5: no fight in that second half, and it's curious. It's like,
Speaker 5: I just don't know. They just don't have any resilience.
Speaker 5: They haven't had any resilience at all this year.
Speaker 2: And I don't know.
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe, you know, there's talk about the kind of
Speaker 5: approach they took to the preseason after the Grand Final.
Speaker 5: Maybe they looked around, it's a roster for the superstars.
Speaker 5: They made the Grand Final. You know, maybe the preseason
Speaker 5: wasn't as tough or as hard as ruling as it
Speaker 5: should have been. Maybe Kevy, you know took the foot
Speaker 5: off the pedal a little bit. I don't know, because
Speaker 5: I think it's a mental It's not a roster thing,
Speaker 5: it's not a skill thing.
Speaker 2: It's got to be an attitude mental thing.
Speaker 4: I'll touch on that.
Speaker 3: I think it's really evident in sport and I guess
Speaker 3: in life in general. It's hard to wake up and
Speaker 3: get into the grind when you sleep in silk sheets.
Speaker 3: I think the saying goes. You see it with athletes
Speaker 3: all the time. You see it with people that move
Speaker 3: up in the world all the time that all of
Speaker 3: a sudden their lives kind of shift. You look at
Speaker 3: the Broncos eighteen months. Are they the superstars they are
Speaker 3: now or are they even close to it? No, all
Speaker 3: of a sudden that they're the hottest things in rugby league.
Speaker 3: They're almost the hottest thing in Australia sport. You go
Speaker 3: to one of their games and you're seeing people there
Speaker 3: that you would have never seen a rugby league game before.
Speaker 3: But they're there because they're not there to watch the
Speaker 3: freet They're there because they like these players and they
Speaker 3: like the superstars that these players have have kind of become.
Speaker 4: When you're getting all that love and attention. You're getting
Speaker 4: the Instagram follows, are getting.
Speaker 3: The endorsement deals, you're getting all that stuff. It's hard
Speaker 3: to get up, go to training in the morning and
Speaker 3: get up for the get up for the grind. Like
Speaker 3: they've got the high life, you know, you look at
Speaker 3: the way they live on their social media's and things
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 4: See it.
Speaker 5: I do agree with you, But if you look at Penrith,
Speaker 5: it's fair to say that Penrith experienced something similar. Right
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, they were the kings of Western Sydney.
Speaker 5: They were superstars wherever they went. You know, they're quite
Speaker 5: vocal on social media. They don't hold back on social media.
Speaker 5: But after they lost twenty twenty Grand Final, they worked
Speaker 5: even harder, you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 4: They doubt about it where it come from.
Speaker 3: Though they came from that kind of that twenty nineteen
Speaker 3: they weren't. They weren't that crash hot Ivan Cleary blooded.
Speaker 3: A lot of young players they dealt with that kind
Speaker 3: of hardship. These young guys, guys like Reese Walsh, Patrick Carrigan,
Speaker 3: they're informed that will not the best form, but they're
Speaker 3: still playing decent footy. But they've been handed all this
Speaker 3: luxury straight away. I don't think they know how to
Speaker 3: deal with it, and I think that's what's making them
Speaker 3: struggle on the field, because they're not there for the
Speaker 3: fight that.
Speaker 5: You know, what is going on at training, other coaching
Speaker 5: staff being hard enough on them to build that toughness
Speaker 5: and that resilience. It's you know, you've got to we're
Speaker 5: getting to a point where man managing your players is
Speaker 5: as important as them being well drilled and well coached
Speaker 5: and skilled in the rest of it. And I think
Speaker 5: that's what Penrith has done really well. You know, like
Speaker 5: Ivan Cleary is obviously an incredible coach, but he's also
Speaker 5: been really good at managing his players, the personalities of
Speaker 5: his players. And I wonder whether you know Kevy or
Speaker 5: anybody at the Broncos has done a good enough job
Speaker 5: on the soft skills side of things as opposed to
Speaker 5: you know, they don't need too much coaching because they're already,
Speaker 5: like you said, individually, quite brilliant players.
Speaker 1: It's quite a juxtaposition when you think that this Red
Speaker 1: Hill is still the place where a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: ago they're erecting fences, mesh fences to keep the fans
Speaker 1: out and hiring extra security to deal with the popularity
Speaker 1: of this team.
Speaker 4: That was just on a tail spin.
Speaker 1: But speaking of someone from a rival club the other
Speaker 1: day about the Broncos, he pointed out something really interesting.
Speaker 1: He said that they know if you chip away at
Speaker 1: the Broncos this season, you can beat them, because he
Speaker 1: pointed out there was a lack of discipline in their
Speaker 1: defense where you had guys shooting out of the line,
Speaker 1: guys not trusting the guy inside, and the second efforts
Speaker 1: weren't there if they do concede a tackle bus last
Speaker 1: year you saw the hunger to sit there and chase
Speaker 1: down as a team and hunting a pack in defense,
Speaker 1: and they haven't done that this year. And that if
Speaker 1: you can break them open a little bit, you can
Speaker 1: get through them. And that's the way they're going. You
Speaker 1: saw what the Titans did the other day, and you
Speaker 1: saw I think, particularly what chem Serroaldo did the week
Speaker 1: before when targeting those edges and finding where they thought, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is where we can get through and the week
Speaker 1: before was done without Stephen Crichton, you know, And yeah,
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think there's a lot of soul
Speaker 1: search and do at Redhill ahead of the next season
Speaker 1: because you know, someone out my Wakers living at Penrith
Speaker 1: way very happily pointed out that the three of the
Speaker 1: bottom four teams are Grand finalists, beating Green Files from Penrith,
Speaker 1: from Penrith, the So you Tigers sixteenth, my ills, but
Speaker 1: we're fifteenth. We Broncos fifteenth now and South's fourteenth. That's
Speaker 1: vi versus.
Speaker 5: So Penrith are building their own dynasty all the while
Speaker 5: ruining everybody else's.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks a lot, Penrith.
Speaker 5: It's fascinating. You know, all those sides of their have
Speaker 5: gone on to to miss the final.
Speaker 4: Fascinating. That's a lot.
Speaker 6: Oh but yeah, anyway, can anyone stop.
Speaker 2: Penrith at the moment?
Speaker 5: I think I think maybe Melbourne have another gear in them,
Speaker 5: I reckon even though they've been the latter of leaders
Speaker 5: like all season, I feel like they're probably we haven't
Speaker 5: seen the best of them just yet. And I also
Speaker 5: think we probably haven't seen the best of Penrith just
Speaker 5: yet because they have. I mean, Fish was out Fish
Speaker 5: and Harris was out for this game. He'll be out
Speaker 5: for three more weeks once they're full strength.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know, Like you look at the outside of
Speaker 5: the storm in the top four at the moment, you've
Speaker 5: got Kanula and you've got the Roosters. I don't think
Speaker 5: either of them at the moment can challenge those two
Speaker 5: the Roosters have. They're another one like just completely star
Speaker 5: studded outfit and for somebody called them for twenty minutes
Speaker 5: every week they look like the Harlem Globe Trotters, and
Speaker 5: then all of a sudden they switch off and again
Speaker 5: they're another team that hasn't found any consistency. They also
Speaker 5: haven't beaten anybody above them on the ladder this year,
Speaker 5: so I lost to Kanola, I think they've lost to
Speaker 5: Melbourne twice and I've lost to Penrith, so they don't
Speaker 5: really have a good record against the other genuine contenders.
Speaker 5: I don't know whether I'm thinking way too deeply into this,
Speaker 5: but if it holds true that defense wins premierships, then
Speaker 5: you have to be you have to include Canterbury in
Speaker 5: that conversation at the moment. And it feels, I don't know,
Speaker 5: I feel it feels like I'm talking, you know, shit
Speaker 5: when I say it out loud, But I mean, I
Speaker 5: think the average points conceded in the last like twenty
Speaker 5: years for the Premiere has been about sixteen points per game.
Speaker 5: And right now, outside of Penrith, Canbary are the best
Speaker 5: defensive team in the competition.
Speaker 4: Well, you do know.
Speaker 1: Twenty fourteen Grand Final yet Canterbury and four ninety four.
Speaker 6: Yeap, And then yeah, let's not talk about eighty four.
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know, maybe that's another one of those
Speaker 5: things that holds true. But yeah, if if defense does
Speaker 5: win Premierships, then you know, Canterbury has earned the right
Speaker 5: to be in that conversation.
Speaker 4: Going back to seventy four?
Speaker 3: Can I give, I'll give, I'll give a sneaky for you.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I was on Ladder Predict the last
Speaker 3: night just with a friend on the phone, and we'll
Speaker 3: kind of you must have.
Speaker 4: A fascinating It was about nine point thirty.
Speaker 3: I just finished Joe Rogan's new comedy special on Netflix,
Speaker 3: and I was like, I wonder we may soon we
Speaker 3: went through the last couple of rounds. I think that
Speaker 3: I don't see the Panthers in the storm both making
Speaker 3: the Grand Final. I think the Riosters still have a
Speaker 3: bit of footy left to play. That we haven't seen yet.
Speaker 3: And I also think the risk is going to get
Speaker 3: up for someone like Jared for the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: I think it's really important to them and Robo will
Speaker 3: get that into them. So I can see a world
Speaker 3: where the Roosters play Panthers in week one of the
Speaker 3: finals and can somehow knock them off.
Speaker 4: This could be our last podcast. Yes, just just wait,
Speaker 4: just wait.
Speaker 3: I still see Panthers making the Grand Final though, because
Speaker 3: then I see Panthers beating the storm in the week before,
Speaker 3: and then I have a Rooster's Bulldogs Grand Final this year.
Speaker 4: Roosters Bulldogs Grand Final.
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 6: Okay, geez, can I ask about anything?
Speaker 1: Was there any illicit substances?
Speaker 4: Take?
Speaker 1: That's wild, Although I do like I love the idea
Speaker 1: of Fatima of the camp being a bit more open
Speaker 1: because no offense.
Speaker 4: Guys, I see it.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's absolutely sounds a big bulb call,
Speaker 1: but it's penis to lose.
Speaker 4: They just bulldogs Panthers. Why don't say Roosters, I meant
Speaker 4: Bulldogs Panthers.
Speaker 7: Oh hang, because I said it, and then I was like, wait,
Speaker 7: that doesn't make sense, and then yes, so bulldogs Bulldogs
Speaker 7: will get in from the from outside of the fort
Speaker 7: and then Panthers will we'll get into the Grand Final
Speaker 7: by beating the storm.
Speaker 4: In the week before the ground.
Speaker 2: His Panthers.
Speaker 5: Oh, I mean that would be I mean when you
Speaker 5: think about Grand finals and I know we're being we're
Speaker 5: probably being very you know, selfish as people from New
Speaker 5: South Wales, but that is like, you can't get any
Speaker 5: better than that.
Speaker 3: You need to be stuck in that car park at
Speaker 3: home Bush. I hated to be stuck with that car park.
Speaker 4: We transport as well.
Speaker 1: That's all you need. Yeah, it's I like that. I
Speaker 1: like that's interesting. You got me a little excited because
Speaker 1: it's funny. Penrith weren't great yesterday against Newcastle. Newcastle I
Speaker 1: thought fought really hard and for a team down down
Speaker 1: on a little bit, but Penrith just seemed to find
Speaker 1: that way, that that bit of that bit of excellence
Speaker 1: that when you need that little five percent, Penrith have
Speaker 1: it and they have it in different areas where you know,
Speaker 1: I know it's been making clearly the last couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: but you've got Jerme Lewis been carrying them for a
Speaker 1: lot this season. Dylan Edwards still to come back when
Speaker 1: the forwards turn it on.
Speaker 2: It's I mean, yeah, I mean Isaiah A. YOUNGI was
Speaker 2: their third string fullback, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And it's just it's ridiculous if they either get the
Speaker 2: McLean brothers.
Speaker 1: As well and they've saw another one in Powers. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm just venting. Session'm still in over Blaze TOOLONGI.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: No, but it's just just on that. It just got
Speaker 2: me thinking.
Speaker 5: And I can't remember which because of covered Penrith quite
Speaker 5: close to the last couple of years, and I can't remember.
Speaker 5: It was after the winning the first Grand Final. It's
Speaker 5: when I watched Penrith play, especially when they're completely like
Speaker 5: when they're peaking, when they're at their best, and it
Speaker 5: was something that I think it was Jerome that drevel
Speaker 5: I said to me, we know how to win Grand
Speaker 5: finals now, and you can sort of see it when
Speaker 5: when they're peaking, and I think that's probably another thing
Speaker 5: you talk about what separates them from everything else.
Speaker 2: They've got this sort of knowledge that you know on
Speaker 2: how to.
Speaker 5: Win big games that other teams just because they've been
Speaker 5: so good and so dominant, haven't had the chance to
Speaker 5: experience yet. So I think that also is another thing
Speaker 5: that is probably the difference for them that separates them
Speaker 5: from everyone else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So am I right in saying I think the
Speaker 1: top seven spots standard mainly, I think are sewn up.
Speaker 1: I think those seven teams will play finals. Are we
Speaker 1: happy to say that the remaining teams your Dolphins, Raiders, Dragons,
Speaker 1: Knights are playing for the remaining spots and the Titans,
Speaker 1: who although the Titans and Knights both have to win
Speaker 1: all their games and overcomes some pretty horrific points differential,
Speaker 1: So I think your Raiders, unfortunately for Tama, have the
Speaker 1: toughest run of anyone on the way home.
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I just need to I think I got
Speaker 2: the lad a little bit wrong.
Speaker 5: So the Dragons at eighth at the moment, Dolphins are ninth,
Speaker 5: Camera are tenth, and the Titans.
Speaker 1: Are Titans eleventh, Nights twelfth, yere. But I think your Raiders,
Speaker 1: who are sitting in tenth, Seagulls at home, Cowboys away,
Speaker 1: Panthers at home, Roosters away, Dragons away.
Speaker 6: I can't. I can't see that getting him into the eight.
Speaker 1: You know, the Dolphins the last couple of weeks, their
Speaker 1: losses are going to come back to haunt them. I
Speaker 1: think especially they've got the Warriors this week, but the
Speaker 1: next two weeks Tice Bulldogs away, Storm away. I think
Speaker 1: that'll be costly. That's their season on the line.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think they I think the Dolphins
Speaker 3: be the Warriors. Depending on the result between the Bulldogs
Speaker 3: and the Dragons will vary how that game goes. I
Speaker 3: think I really think the Dolphins can only afford to
Speaker 3: drop one out of those and you're probably etching that
Speaker 3: against the Storm.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's there's also.
Speaker 5: Like when you look at it and you know there's
Speaker 5: also Baniga pill games for all those sides in that
Speaker 5: run home. You know, like the Eels I reckon are
Speaker 5: going to be a thorn for some sides. The Titans
Speaker 5: are playing with.
Speaker 4: Try scond after me. Now it's too late.
Speaker 2: Bidens have played some really good football.
Speaker 5: I mean, we saw that the Knights refused to go
Speaker 5: against the Panthers and sort of those three side.
Speaker 1: Titans could be the best second half football team I've
Speaker 1: ever seen. Yeah, what about that halftime sprays from Das
Speaker 1: must be epic? My goodness, there's second halve's lately been terrific.
Speaker 1: But that's shows what potential they've got, I know, I
Speaker 1: think from this year, from next year on with Dez
Speaker 1: having his second year, to see what.
Speaker 6: He can do with them.
Speaker 2: But you know, they're still a J.
Speaker 5: Bimson and no Tenflali, so it's definitely got But that's
Speaker 5: what we sort of expected anyway. What we're seeing now
Speaker 5: from the Titans is what we sort of thought Des
Speaker 5: was going to deliver right from the start. It just
Speaker 5: took a little bit of a while for everything to
Speaker 5: gel and then out of nowhere, Kinney dispersed onto the
Speaker 5: scene and he just you know, it has added another
Speaker 5: sort of X factor player for them. So yeah, but
Speaker 5: sides like the Titans, like the Eels, like the Knights,
Speaker 5: I reckon will have a bit of a say into
Speaker 5: how the top eight ends as a booking.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, Well, the Dragons have got two really
Speaker 1: big although they've got a lot of big games because
Speaker 1: they're sitting in eighth with a bad points differential, but
Speaker 1: they're on twenty six points. There are two points ahead
Speaker 1: of Canberra and then who were over at the Gold
Speaker 1: Coast in the night, so they've got that advantage.
Speaker 6: Sorry, yeah, ahead of Dolphins and Camera.
Speaker 1: But the next two weeks Bulldogs at home, Titans at
Speaker 1: home in and they're basically well those first two four
Speaker 1: point turnaround games for you know, where you sit on
Speaker 1: the ladder, you know you can put yourself that you
Speaker 1: know you can you can climb up towards Canterbury or
Speaker 1: you can.
Speaker 4: Escape the Gold Coast there.
Speaker 1: And then you've got that Shark's home game, which is huge,
Speaker 1: and then they finish off away to Paramatta and then
Speaker 1: Canber again at home.
Speaker 4: So it's a winnable lot of games.
Speaker 1: But if that schizophrenic Dragons outfit to what you're earlier
Speaker 1: turn up, who knows. So that's yeah, it's getting interesting.
Speaker 1: But yeah, from teams that didn't make it last year,
Speaker 1: Canterbury St. Georgia, lawarav got them coming in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, like I said earlier, I think Canberra
Speaker 5: had to win that game against Dotties just to keep
Speaker 5: their chances alive. You look at their run, it's probably
Speaker 5: a bit maybe a stretch too far.
Speaker 2: So the same with the Dolphins.
Speaker 5: You know, they're sort of sort of going through the
Speaker 5: same late season fade out as they did last year.
Speaker 5: So I mean, if you look at the if you
Speaker 5: look at the way the top eight looks at the moment,
Speaker 5: it's probably going to be that way in five weeks.
Speaker 1: And the Cowboys are going to buy as well, which
Speaker 1: means they only need one win to book a final spot.
Speaker 1: But Bronco's Raiders Storm Bulldogs not an easy run. So
Speaker 1: you know, for a team that's sitting six, then you
Speaker 1: know potentially could push for a top four spot. It's
Speaker 1: a tough lot of games if they managed to win those,
Speaker 1: who knows, but you know they could sort of slip
Speaker 1: down that pecking order a little bit, don't.
Speaker 3: I don't like the Cowboys, so I think if the
Speaker 3: team's going to slip out, it's going to be them.
Speaker 3: To be honest, I don't think they're locked in.
Speaker 4: Was that. I just think they're too inconsistent, way, way,
Speaker 4: way too inconsistent. You've got twenty eight points, they're sitting
Speaker 4: in six that.
Speaker 3: They almost I spoke to Todd Payden after their game
Speaker 3: against the Tigers and he was worried if I Popolie
Speaker 3: scored that they were going to lose and they had
Speaker 3: twelve men on the field, like you're I said it
Speaker 3: from from day dot. They they tend to just be scraping,
Speaker 3: scraping by scraping by. If they lose a couple of
Speaker 3: the next ones, and you know, things go right for
Speaker 3: these other teams, they can slide out. I don't think
Speaker 3: it's as locked in as as maybe it looks.
Speaker 4: Just maybe I'm saying that they just cool. If you
Speaker 4: go after me, that's fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah you when you did you allow a predictor yesterday?
Speaker 2: Where did you have them? N Okay?
Speaker 4: Wow, you sneaking in ahead of them. I've got the
Speaker 4: Dragons and the Dolphins. Dragons and Dolphins. Yeah wow.
Speaker 3: I don't think dragons nights. I saw dragons, Titans and
Speaker 3: Dolphins can make it. But I think the Dragons and
Speaker 3: the Dolphins can make it over the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Wow, you're predicting a really to our North Queensland listeners,
Speaker 1: I must apologize that. I'll send your Tyson mobile number
Speaker 1: for when they do make the eight so you can
Speaker 1: bring and give him a bagging.
Speaker 4: But that's it's interesting.
Speaker 5: I think that might be the worst defensive side in
Speaker 5: the top eight at the moment too. They're scoring a
Speaker 5: lot of points, but they're conceding a hell of a
Speaker 5: lot of points as well.
Speaker 4: So who do they have the Queensland Derby? Yeah?
Speaker 3: So they've got the Broncos, which can always go either
Speaker 3: way no matter where the team's sitting. The Raiders they've
Speaker 3: got the buy which is two points in the storm,
Speaker 3: and the Bulldogs, like realistically they could lose all four
Speaker 3: of those games.
Speaker 4: So I think, I think it's a tough drawer, right,
Speaker 4: and you're struggling to beat my Tigers, You've.
Speaker 1: Got you've got a Bulldog's Panthers Grand Final. We've got
Speaker 1: the Cowboys slipping from six to out of the eight.
Speaker 1: I like the way the last few weeks is going
Speaker 1: to go up topsy turvy with according to the Tyson
Speaker 1: Jackson System.
Speaker 2: Three of three of the last four up in Townsville.
Speaker 2: So then might give them a bit of an advantage.
Speaker 4: Take that tice, talk to me, fives, that's what we
Speaker 4: want here.
Speaker 2: Wait, so what's your what's your prediction.
Speaker 6: I've got drag I've got the top eight as it is.
Speaker 2: As it is, Yeah, I sort of I tend to
Speaker 2: agree with.
Speaker 4: I think the Dragons are going to sneak in.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: If they because twenty six points, they're going to win.
Speaker 1: You're going to get three wins out of one to
Speaker 1: three wins out of five, win lost, win, lost win
Speaker 1: or lost win lost win, Oh no, May May We're
Speaker 1: going to be called one short on this. If they
Speaker 1: can't win back to back games again, they're going to
Speaker 1: have to That's a challenge, isn't it.
Speaker 4: It has to be.
Speaker 3: This week tells you what's gonna happen with the Dragons
Speaker 3: and if they can pull it off against the Bulldogs
Speaker 3: then in Wooing, I'd probably say that you can almost
Speaker 3: lock the Dragons in.
Speaker 4: They have a really good record there. But Cogra's it's
Speaker 4: only ten minutes away from Belmore. I think they'll be.
Speaker 1: Is it me?
Speaker 2: And again, this might be a generational thing, but is
Speaker 2: it me?
Speaker 5: Or is the the local derby between We can call
Speaker 5: it that right because the geographically neighbors between Canterbury and
Speaker 5: the Dragons have sort of overtaken the one that they
Speaker 5: have with the Sharks. I know there's it's you know,
Speaker 5: that's always been sort of the traditional one, but I
Speaker 5: feel like there's always a bit more passional.
Speaker 3: Like a generation or the Dragons and the Sharks as
Speaker 3: of recent have always been on opposite side of the
Speaker 3: there's always a bit more to playful between the Dogs
Speaker 3: and the Dragons, I feel.
Speaker 4: But now with the Dog's warback. It's great to have derbies.
Speaker 6: It's great playing well, that's when derbies matter.
Speaker 4: Sellouts. I love sellouts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like paramount of playing Penrith this week. It's a
Speaker 1: big game for Penrith. You know if you go, well,
Speaker 1: that's what you say. But I love that kind of beater.
Speaker 1: But I love I love derbies. I think they're great
Speaker 1: in footy. So I look forward to this weekend. But
Speaker 1: I've got to ask you. I want to get your
Speaker 1: thoughts on who is your most improved player this year
Speaker 1: because we're having a chat about this before and there's
Speaker 1: some names on our list, but there's no award for
Speaker 1: this officially anywhere. But we could go and hand out
Speaker 1: some plark to somebody. But the first thing that came
Speaker 1: to my list was Jacob kraz who is I think's
Speaker 1: playing some really mature football at Canterbury. He's been asked
Speaker 1: to play, you know, he goes on the wing, he's
Speaker 1: been asked to come into center and each time he's
Speaker 1: done it. You know, I've seen a lot out of him.
Speaker 1: I know he's only a couple of years into his career,
Speaker 1: but really really impressing me.
Speaker 3: It's a good it's a good pick. But when you
Speaker 3: say most improved, only think of Ja Kraz. I think
Speaker 3: Jame Kraz has always been really good. Like he hasn't
Speaker 3: really had a rollercoaster reform. He's just playing more consistently
Speaker 3: this year. Last year thing he had a couple of
Speaker 3: injuries and was in and out of the team.
Speaker 5: But we had a he had had a back injury, yeah,
Speaker 5: that he had to manage, and there was a bit
Speaker 5: of talked that, you know, he might have to say
Speaker 5: out in the first couple of rounds of the season,
Speaker 5: but he was able to get it good and he's
Speaker 5: been amazing since because he's I was having a look
Speaker 5: at actually some of his stats and I didn't realize, like,
Speaker 5: obviously he's a meter eater, but to average one hundred
Speaker 5: and ninety odd meters is that's just ridiculous.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it really is.
Speaker 1: He's only twenty two. He Dave Bud a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago. But he's winning percentage up until this year
Speaker 1: was thirty three percent. Now the Bulldogs this year or
Speaker 1: almost sixty percent. So playing what fifty odd games for
Speaker 1: Canterbury in those two years is almost like one hundred
Speaker 1: anywhere else Because you're forged in fire and but yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right for him, He's almost doubled his line breaks
Speaker 1: this year. He's improved, he's running meters, he's a good finisher.
Speaker 1: But I think I think his football maturity is really excelling.
Speaker 1: So I just think you know, you're right, Tys. He
Speaker 1: hasn't had a dip to be most improved, but he's
Speaker 1: been coming along and I think this year he's been
Speaker 1: one of the beneficially of what Cameron has come.
Speaker 6: To do with that club. The other guy at the
Speaker 6: Bulldogs is Reid Marnie.
Speaker 5: He's one I would think, like, I know, obviously he's
Speaker 5: been there, played some big games and got a lot
Speaker 5: of experience at the moment, but he just looks like
Speaker 5: a completely different player.
Speaker 2: To what he was last year and almost a different
Speaker 2: player to what.
Speaker 5: He was at the Eels. So you know, I feel
Speaker 5: like he's got a more all rounded game.
Speaker 4: A different role and he does and it suits him.
Speaker 4: Say you say role.
Speaker 3: I find it really interesting because I feel that this
Speaker 3: year he's picked up more of a leadership wrong without
Speaker 3: the captaincy beside him, you see him really trying to
Speaker 3: lead that team up front and trying to make things happen,
Speaker 3: even things like as much as I dislike it, but
Speaker 3: ripping into players like you know, that gets them up,
Speaker 3: that that works for them, and there's teams like that.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I tend to agree with you with with Reid.
Speaker 3: For me personally, I think Tommy's allowed from Manly has
Speaker 3: been probably the most improved player in the competition. You
Speaker 3: look at you know, he's he always was that guy.
Speaker 3: When he played for the Tigers. You looked at him
Speaker 3: and you're like, You've got so much potential, but they're
Speaker 3: just I don't know what a couple of injuries, injuries,
Speaker 3: and like even when he wasn't injured, he tend tended
Speaker 3: to find himself playing cup a lot there.
Speaker 4: But he's been He's been awesome for especially on the wing.
Speaker 3: I think for the Seagulls getting out of trouble, scoring tries,
Speaker 3: he's been great.
Speaker 4: Also, we can't look past Mitch Barnett.
Speaker 3: He's had an amazing year for the Warriors, and I
Speaker 3: think his Game three for the Blues was a big
Speaker 3: reason why why they did so well as well.
Speaker 2: Groups in there. I feel like.
Speaker 5: He just I feel like this year at the Seagulls
Speaker 5: we've actually kind of seen this potential that everybody spent
Speaker 5: the best part of a decade talking about just the
Speaker 5: way he runs the football. He's free, So I feel
Speaker 5: like he's definitely a more improved player at the Seagulls then.
Speaker 1: But he's in an improved team, isn't he. I saw
Speaker 1: his running game the Tigers. I don't think he was
Speaker 1: the blame for the ills of that club club.
Speaker 3: I think the reason why I didn't even think of
Speaker 3: Luke Brooks is because I watch him play for many
Speaker 3: and I still see the same player. I think the
Speaker 3: only difference is no one's talking about him, which for
Speaker 3: him I'm so happy for because he got hammered for
Speaker 3: no reason at times at the Tigers. So I mean,
Speaker 3: I tend to disagree with you're saying most improved because
Speaker 3: I think he's still the same player.
Speaker 4: It's just the spotlights off him.
Speaker 3: I think having someone like DC beside him as has
Speaker 3: taken that pressure off him, and he's doing his role.
Speaker 3: He's not doing anything spectacular, He's doing what he needs to.
Speaker 3: He's running games great, it's helping them, you know, have
Speaker 3: some really polished plays. And yes, I don't see him
Speaker 3: as the most improved. I see him as just you know,
Speaker 3: the attentions off him. I guess he's flying under the radar.
Speaker 6: But you're right, we're seeing a lot more of that, yeah,
Speaker 6: in that team, in that better setup.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And not to continue the Tiger's trend, but I feel
Speaker 5: like someone like Sean Blow as well. I don't know
Speaker 5: if he's being most improved, but he's definitely improved after
Speaker 5: going to Melbourne. And it was a bit of a
Speaker 5: slow start for him, you know. I don't know whether
Speaker 5: it was a fitness thing or just took time to
Speaker 5: learn the Melbourne system. He missed out in the first
Speaker 5: couple of games, came back I think was selected in
Speaker 5: round three, hasn't looked back since. And again one of
Speaker 5: those guys where when he was at Penriss because he
Speaker 5: came from pen Rest to the tig from memory, just
Speaker 5: another of one bit like Tommy Till out right just
Speaker 5: sort of couldn't really kick on when he was at
Speaker 5: the Tigers, and now it was just this big destructive
Speaker 5: edge forward that we sort of expect him.
Speaker 2: He's just reached the potential that we knew that he could.
Speaker 3: I remember his debut game against the Eels and he
Speaker 3: picked out Nathan Brown, and every time Nathan Brown, ranchorre
Speaker 3: Blaw was there, I'm sure and blow Rare Nathan Brown
Speaker 3: was there and all Tigers supports. We've got ourselves a
Speaker 3: gem here.
Speaker 2: And then yeah, like you said, just he's another one
Speaker 2: who had injuries.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he had a couple of injuries, but just tended
Speaker 4: to not kick on.
Speaker 3: And then we were hearing reports and when he went
Speaker 3: to Storm, he when he went to the Storm, he
Speaker 3: was struggling fitness wise and intensity wise for their preseason.
Speaker 3: So yeah, again like yeah, I probably do tend to
Speaker 3: agree more on blow than books with that because he
Speaker 3: has improved.
Speaker 6: What about what about Jaden Campbell.
Speaker 1: He was identified last year as a potential X factor
Speaker 1: for the Eels and I looked at went.
Speaker 6: Really is a bit small.
Speaker 1: I don't know where it quite where he fits and
Speaker 1: injuries and positional switches, et cetera. But I think he's
Speaker 1: thriving with the five eighths with number six years on
Speaker 1: his back. I like his running game. When we're talking
Speaker 1: about Luke Brooks, I like what he's doing there. I'm
Speaker 1: really enjoying watching his Footye. When I flick on to
Speaker 1: see the Times, like, Okay, I want to watch what
Speaker 1: Jaden Campbell's doing.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was one of those ones where for a
Speaker 5: long time he was probably a victim of that X
Speaker 5: factor tag because it meant that he got shuffled around
Speaker 5: a little.
Speaker 2: Bit, like is he X fact off the bench? Is
Speaker 2: he like a backline impact player? Is he a fullback?
Speaker 2: Is he you know, where is his best position?
Speaker 5: But I think it's also like what Tyson said about
Speaker 5: Brooks and DCE, I think Floren's done also a pretty
Speaker 5: good job of being a foil for Jaden Campbell. So
Speaker 5: he's taken off a lot of that pressure where the
Speaker 5: only thing he has to do is run. And like
Speaker 5: you said, in that situation, his smaller size, his agility
Speaker 5: when you know sides are fatigued, like we saw, you know,
Speaker 5: against the Broncos, he really comes to the foe And
Speaker 5: so yeah, absolutely you'd have him in that conversation. It's
Speaker 5: it's just a bit interesting to see is this his position?
Speaker 5: And he might be forced into that position just by
Speaker 5: the fact of the emergence of Kinney and they've still
Speaker 5: got a J. Brimson to come into the side.
Speaker 3: So there's that long jam there at the Titans. It's
Speaker 3: I mean it's a headache for des, but I mean
Speaker 3: it's almost a good headache. I don't see where you
Speaker 3: fit Brimson in though now because of how good Campbell's
Speaker 3: going in the five eight and then obviously got Kinning
Speaker 3: up the back, he's been a revelation for them. So yeah, again,
Speaker 3: he's probably he's always had that skill there. It's not
Speaker 3: like he ever played poorly. But moving into five eighths,
Speaker 3: I guess we've seen more of him and we've seen
Speaker 3: him play consistently and I guess almost get involved.
Speaker 4: He said he lost tackling as well, which I mean
Speaker 4: he's a small guy.
Speaker 3: He'd be the first person you want to run at,
Speaker 3: so I guess yeah, position wise, it's a big improvement and.
Speaker 1: A couple others off through up this up quick Toll May,
Speaker 1: I think it's been vastly. I think he stepped up.
Speaker 1: I think he stepped up big time. So when Lindsay
Speaker 1: Collins went down the other night and to Reell, May
Speaker 1: is the guy that made stack of tackles, Stacker hit ups.
Speaker 1: It's been a mainstay in the Danny Crankevich thirteen my
Speaker 1: super Coach team this year.
Speaker 2: So I think it might be in mine as well. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I might have started the season with him.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've just I kept ignoring Tommy Sankster's.
Speaker 1: Intimation that I should sell him if I'm just gonna hold,
Speaker 1: just gonna hold, and yeah, proved revelation.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And speaking of logjams, the rooster sort of when you
Speaker 5: look at their forward pack, there is a bit of
Speaker 5: a log jam there. So but still like even though
Speaker 5: you know, still guys like Lindsay Collins now Spencer Lenni.
Speaker 5: You you know, obviously Jared's moving on, but still that
Speaker 5: log jam of prop forwards in front of him. But
Speaker 5: that hasn't seemed to bother him, and he has taken
Speaker 5: his game to another level. It'll be interesting to see
Speaker 5: post Jared what that forward pack looks like, whether Terrell's
Speaker 5: a starter with a Spencer lenis a starter. But I
Speaker 5: think what's really promising about him is it doesn't matter
Speaker 5: whether you start him or whether he's off the bench.
Speaker 2: The impact that he plays with has been massive for them.
Speaker 6: And what do you make I had to throw this
Speaker 6: guy in Jade and Sewer. I think he's been he's
Speaker 6: been really good.
Speaker 3: We's been to play Origin a couple of years ago
Speaker 3: and it looked like he was really going to kick
Speaker 3: on and then obviously had I think a bit of
Speaker 3: a quiet last year. Came back into the Origin Arena
Speaker 3: this year, although didn't hold his spot for Game three.
Speaker 3: I think that's almost a fire under him. And we've
Speaker 3: seen his best footing after after the Origin series, So yeah,
Speaker 3: I think he's definitely improved this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, interesting here what our listeners think? So send
Speaker 1: him Send me an email, guys, Adam dot Mobs.
Speaker 2: This is one of those ones where I feel like
Speaker 2: there's going to be some names that we've missed. So
Speaker 2: if anybody's got any ideas, let us know.
Speaker 1: Adam dot Mobs at News dot com that au let
Speaker 1: us know, because yeah, I'm sure there's Jacob Little, Tyrone, Wishart.
Speaker 1: There's guys all through here that we could talk about.
Speaker 1: What we needed to move on to. Is for team's
Speaker 1: favorite segment?
Speaker 4: Is it? Yes?
Speaker 2: What are you watching?
Speaker 4: Watch?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm I'm only watching Olympics at the moment because
Speaker 1: I'm so busy with I love my Olympics.
Speaker 4: I've just I'm fallen into that.
Speaker 1: But I have been receiving some notes from our listeners
Speaker 1: on disaster movies because you know.
Speaker 6: That's kind of been my stick the last few weeks.
Speaker 1: Tim sent me an email and said, if Fatima likes
Speaker 1: True Stories, Pam likes Celine Dion, and I must disaster
Speaker 1: movie buff, we should get together to watch Titanic. He said, thanks,
Speaker 1: he loves the podcast. Yeah, I thought that was nice
Speaker 1: and tesa listening in from Zurich in Switzerland, he says
Speaker 1: The Tearing Inferno is the best disaster movie ever made.
Speaker 4: Paul Newman, Steve McQueen need I go on, but I will.
Speaker 1: It's not an over the top stupid movie, but more
Speaker 1: a foreshadowing of what could happen to these skyscraper has
Speaker 1: been built in the sixties and seventies. The tension starts
Speaker 1: building early and the time flies by. Yeah, and is
Speaker 1: it like the nineteen seventy four And there's a bloke
Speaker 1: on there O J.
Speaker 4: Simpson.
Speaker 6: So I don't know whether I got it. I got
Speaker 6: to admit I haven't seen this.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to go and see whether O Jay
Speaker 1: is as good in this as he was in the
Speaker 1: Acred Gun series.
Speaker 6: Now, you guys are a bit younger. Did you ever
Speaker 6: see nake a Gun? Leslie Nielsen?
Speaker 2: I've heard of it.
Speaker 4: But I haven't seen it, watched the first.
Speaker 6: You watched the first one and you didn't follow it
Speaker 6: up with Naked.
Speaker 4: Gun My Parents.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard of Paul Newman. I don't think I've
Speaker 2: ever watched a movie.
Speaker 4: I've heard of Paul Newman.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, other than The Towering Inferno has been
Speaker 2: any Wait, let me rephrase that. What other prominent movies
Speaker 2: should I have watched that he's been?
Speaker 4: He's pretty much just a legend of screen. So we're
Speaker 4: going to go.
Speaker 2: And doesn't make tomato sauce.
Speaker 4: It's like George Former makes grills.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, move on, I'm out.
Speaker 4: That's it. You've lost me, Okay, I am.
Speaker 5: I'm actually still going through my True crime face so
Speaker 5: I'm up to so I was watching New or Homicide.
Speaker 5: I'm up to Los Angeles Onmicide, which is like the
Speaker 5: second season.
Speaker 4: Of that show.
Speaker 5: I'm also still going through Super Cell as well. So
Speaker 5: I thought, rather than because I'm not watching anything new,
Speaker 5: I will recommend Sweet Tooth, which is I don't know
Speaker 5: whether it's based on a book or not. Sorry, I
Speaker 5: watched things without doing too much research, but.
Speaker 2: Basically it's a world where there are hybrid children, so
Speaker 2: that are part human, part animal, and they're, like I Dotto,
Speaker 2: trying to find some people are trying to find a cure,
Speaker 2: cure for it. But to find a cure, I think
Speaker 2: they have to like exterminate the hybrid children. It's it's interesting,
Speaker 2: it's a bit sci fi. The hybrid's a cure. It's
Speaker 2: a fun, easy watch.
Speaker 4: I'm interested.
Speaker 5: It's one of I think it was the first season
Speaker 5: was one of the most popular shows on Netflix.
Speaker 3: Well, I guess, continuing on with your mutant type things,
Speaker 3: I went and watched Wolverine or Deadpool and Wolverine on
Speaker 3: the weekend. I'm not a big superhero guy. I like Batman,
Speaker 3: but that's about it.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I was.
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed this movie. I thought it was funny,
Speaker 3: good action scenes, huge, Blackman's aussy gem.
Speaker 4: So that was nice.
Speaker 2: Is it like Deadpool? Be well, very they like you've.
Speaker 4: Seen the first one.
Speaker 2: I think Deadpool you have.
Speaker 4: I think they're like they're like a team is the
Speaker 4: best way to put it. But yeah, watch watch the
Speaker 4: movie for team.
Speaker 5: It's a's two Deadpools, right, is there two?
Speaker 4: This is the third? This is the third, third installment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was really funny. I was laughing out
Speaker 3: loud in the cinema, which I'm a bit embarrassing.
Speaker 1: We're laughing when he was making out with the ugly dog.
Speaker 1: It was literally the world ugliest dog starts in this movie.
Speaker 1: There's I've seen a clip it's yeasturb.
Speaker 4: That was pretty funny. It was good to see.
Speaker 3: The cinema was packed as well, which is always nice,
Speaker 3: so there was no free seats in there.
Speaker 6: Big bounds back for Marvel, A couple of stinkers.
Speaker 3: I stopped watching after the most recent Spider Man. I
Speaker 3: think that was my last one, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I can't watch it.
Speaker 1: Who do you know a spider manider Man?
Speaker 4: Growing up tom Owen has been pretty.
Speaker 1: Good since Superman, Okay, Spidery.
Speaker 5: I don't watch too many superhero movies. Is Joker super superhero?
Speaker 4: He's a villain.
Speaker 6: He's in DC where we're upsetting people for you.
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm going to be judged for this.
Speaker 5: The last the last time I went into a cinema.
Speaker 4: To watch the movie footage of the Dog. Sorry, yeah,
Speaker 4: it was The Joker.
Speaker 2: That was the last movie I watched in the cinema.
Speaker 2: It's been years now.
Speaker 4: The second one is coming out soon. The team will
Speaker 4: be back in the guys.
Speaker 2: I'll give you some homework and from from from the cinema.
Speaker 1: We're going to give you Hoyts vouchers and just going
Speaker 1: to make you sit there and watch some classics.
Speaker 2: So I would to say no.
Speaker 1: We're better push off, but to thank everyone for tuning in,
Speaker 1: because I'm sure there's a thousand Rugby League podcasts around there,
Speaker 1: so it's nice that you spent some time stopping by
Speaker 1: with us. So again, disaster movies if there's any others
Speaker 1: or any other suggestions for it, but I.
Speaker 2: Didn't say it was like a disaster months. Yeah, well
Speaker 2: to August now, so you still have you got a
Speaker 2: new or the Olympics.
Speaker 6: The Olympics got in the way, so I'm straight back.
Speaker 4: Into what can be a new c for August.
Speaker 2: Have you got any ideas.
Speaker 1: My daughter's getting to the age he's fifteen now, wants
Speaker 1: to start watching some more mature movies, but more mature.
Speaker 6: As in content. So I'm talking and things like that.
Speaker 6: I'm going to know you're not watching that.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, just terrible.
Speaker 2: So yeah maybe though, yeah, maybe give her a couple
Speaker 2: of years.
Speaker 1: No, No, someone will be reporting me to docks from this,
Speaker 1: so we'll get back to work. Thanks for stopping by,
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