WEBVTT - 🏉 NRL Analysis - When Flanno's Saints Go Marching In 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:12.000 Better than Lego, better than Leo Chance. Gooday, it's Mobsy 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:13.840 here And if you're listening to this episode of the 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:18.200 Daily Telegraph Errol Podcast in your Maddie John's podcast feed, welcome. 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:20.720 We're with you instead of Maddie and Cooper Kronk for 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:23.160 the next three weeks while Maddie is in Paris, and 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:25.319 we're going to get into it the run up to 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:37.000 the finals everything NRL. All right, we're back for another 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:40.319 episode of the Daily Telegraph Errol Podcast. Adam Mob's here 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:43.360 with you with Fatima Cado. How are you going, Fatima? 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:45.960 I am well and went on, but well. 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:50.479 Underwell Tyson Jackson who jumping in the hot seat this 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:53.880 week and you and I've got a little bit of 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:57.160 sideband going at the moment because I'm an ils man 0:00:57.160 --> 0:01:00.000 and you're a Tiger supporter, and we thought round twenty 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:02.040 seven might be the wooden spoon by my friend, but 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:04.000 you might have just got the jump on you after 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:04.680 last weekend. 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:08.200 Ah, there's still a couple of weeks left. I wouldn't 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:09.920 get to ahead of yourself. I jumped on the ladder 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:12.560 predicted last night and the Tiger's still going to finish 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:15.800 sixteenth and there's only one team they'll finish below that. 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:17.680 So I'll leave that to your imagination. 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:21.800 On your left, questioning Mobs, where where that performance from 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:26.760 the Ills was six eight weeks ago? Look, well, maybe 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:30.520 it's a it's a taste of they're just resigned to 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:32.360 the fact that the season is done and there's that 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:33.800 less pressure and no. 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:36.640 Well you look last week they were the better team 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:40.520 in the first half against Melbourne and trailed. They threw 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:42.280 a couple of trial, gave a couple of tries up, 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:43.360 they had all the possession. 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:46.000 You look back earlier in the year, they should have beaten. 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:49.040 Canary that time when they didn't know Mitch Moses should 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:51.360 have iced that game. They were in it against the 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:53.280 Roosters that time. There was three games in the middle. 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:54.840 I think the Gold Coast was the other one. That 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:57.560 games they should have one that would have you look 0:01:57.600 --> 0:01:59.920 at that roster. They're not a wooden spoon roster enough. 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.880 It's tice, but yeah, but it is. 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:03.320 What it is. 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:07.040 And they did play in patches this year where you're 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:09.320 got your thinking like, how is this team at bottom 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:12.440 of the roster, bottom of the table even with all 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:14.399 the injuries they've had in the setbacks and the rest 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.799 of it. So maybe it's not as bad it Maybe 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:20.280 it's not bottom of the barrel just yet. Maybe it 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:23.080 might be if the chat on the radio this morning 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:29.320 through that Mitch that the Dragons and monitoring Mitchell Moses's situation. 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:33.280 Yeah, so is that in the same conversation that Mitchell 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:34.760 wants to get somewhere where he's going to win a 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:37.440 camp and Georgia Laura and that conversation. 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:40.359 Come on, I'm anymore. 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:43.200 Well, Flanet is a premiership winning coach, so he's got 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:43.840 that over. 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:46.600 Jason Royles, Well he is. And what about the what 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:48.120 do you make of the Dragons at the weekend? 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.280 Very good? I thought they were. They were very good. 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:53.880 Yeah they were, they were good. 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.639 I didn't realize it was Anthony Monday and Hudo. Is 0:02:56.680 --> 0:03:00.560 this another like generational thing that we should have about it? 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:04.000 Well? Yeah, ninety nine Grand Final they were with a 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:08.600 whisker of beating Melbourne. Obviously there was the Craig Smith. 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:11.680 Incident in the call with Jamie Ayin's co. 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:15.960 And the penalty try, but you know they were within 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:18.120 a whisker winning it. When Mundine was it could have 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:20.080 passed it right on the line when himself knocked it 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:22.359 on and Chock said the next year, you know, we're 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:24.240 going to charm who the real deal is. And Melbourne 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:26.639 pumped them seventy to ten following they haven't won in 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:27.680 twenty five years down there. 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:29.359 But tell you what, what. 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:32.720 Shane Flatagan's done with this team, that same roster as 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:36.600 last year and to go down there to Melbourne, I 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:40.280 don't care who you are, especially the Dragons after twenty 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:42.240 five years to put in the performance they did and 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:45.960 you're always sitting here watching this going, oh god, Melbourne 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:47.440 are going to do something here. They're just going to 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:50.520 find a way, find a way. And the Dragons held 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:55.040 so firm in defense, unbelievable. Jaden Sewer I thought was 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:56.160 terrific in attack. 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:57.839 Again, he's been great. 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:01.000 It's missing out on origin in that last game, I 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:06.040 think it was, yeah, and they're just in terms of 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:09.240 like physicality, conditioning fitness wise. They matched it with a 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:11.760 storm the storm or obviously I know they've been sort 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:13.440 of off the pace the last couple of weeks. They've 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:16.520 probably got away with one last week they think. For 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:20.440 the Dragons for me is when they're in that mood 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:22.160 like they were against the storm. 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:24.719 You know, they look like a top. 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:26.599 Eight team, but then they get blown off the park 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:28.599 every now and then, so they're still struggling for that 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:30.919 consistency and I know that's something that Shane Flanagan is 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:35.440 working on. But you know, the people derided their forward 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:37.599 pack seems to be matching them. 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:39.720 They've got really big outside backs. Zach Climax. 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:41.279 I feel it's probably been a little bit off the 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:45.720 pace since Origin, but you know, yeah, they look good 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:50.240 and it sets up a massive game at Cobra against Canterbury. 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:54.560 What do you think of Tyrrel Sloan's performance, Tice? 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:59.360 I thought coming back and all the criticism, I thought 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:02.440 it was was all right. I thought, you know, I 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:05.120 spoke to Flano last week before they left for Melbourne, 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:07.880 and I was surprised when Flano was very open and 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:09.480 saying that he didn't want to bring him back. 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:13.800 I thought that was not a tough call. 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:15.800 But I mean to come and tell the media that 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:18.240 you don't see many other coaches doing that. So that 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:21.360 might have lit a rocket under tyrelle and I think 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:23.839 after a win like that he probably keeps his spot. 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:25.719 I'm so happy for him. 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:29.200 I'm so happy because Flannel has not been backwards in 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:32.599 coming forward about Tyrell Sloan's form and what he sees 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.680 as deficiencies in his role as a fallback. You know, 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.880 he's sometimes that, you know, willing to put your head 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:41.000 in the areas that other people won't put them, that 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:45.359 kind of thing. But obviously was the ball support runner 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:47.720 that we saw on the weekend, of course, but you know, 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:49.640 he didn't shirk his responsibilities at all. 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:51.000 And they were they were so tough. 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:54.040 They were so tough out there just supporting each other 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:56.480 through the middle. And Flano has got him playing some 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:58.760 really nice football. And I don't know about you guys, 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:01.120 we'll get to this. I've got to be my eight 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:02.760 for the rest of the season. I think they're going 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:03.560 to play finals. 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:05.599 Yeah, I think it's it's kind of between. 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:10.039 The Dragons will only make it the Titan Stone, so 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:12.919 they need the Titans to drop off a couple of 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:15.240 massive weeks though, like we said, that Bulldogs game is 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:17.320 going to be unbelievable. 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:18.320 Sell out a cogra. 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:23.360 I'm a local there so you might see might. 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:26.280 Get around, but yeah, I can't wait. 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:29.640 Rugby League is a good place when the Dragons and 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.919 the Bulldogs hopefully one day. The Tigers are doing well, 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:37.800 so I'm excited. I think, yeah, like a world of momentum. 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:41.560 The atmosphere comes Saturday night at Cogra is going to 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:42.799 be unbelievable. 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:46.479 It's going to be interesting because it's two very passionate 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:50.480 you know, Sydney supporter Basis So. I think Flannel was 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:53.280 on the radio this morning saying how much they love 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:55.640 coming to Cogra to play because it is a different 0:06:56.320 --> 0:07:00.159 group of fans, you know, to the Ilawara so and 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.599 we saw all the scenes at Bellmore they were carrying 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:05.760 on like they just won the Grand Final. So they're 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:07.680 probably going to take over the streets of Cogar as 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:09.479 well if they win too. But it'll be the same 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:13.000 for the Dragons, who you know, if they put themselves 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.520 well and truly in the finals race, if they get 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:18.120 over the Bulldogs, I think it's going to be it'll 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:21.960 be interesting because they're both greedy teams when they can be, 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.440 and they both can score points when they want to. 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:26.120 But I think it's going to be a tight, closer, 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:28.280 fair and I think defense is going to win this one, 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:29.960 and they're both defensive minded coaches. 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:32.600 So yeah, well looked. I looked last night. The Dragons 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:36.600 have only won back to back games twice this year. Yeah, 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:40.360 so massive tests. If that's their deficiency. There might be 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:42.280 a bit of complacency. They have a real high one 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:45.000 week and then the next week drop a bit. I 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:46.880 don't know, but that's that's going to be the biggest 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:48.960 test for them, is to go back to back, if 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.040 only the third time this year. And I mean to 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:53.120 get into that top eight mobs. You say the Dragons 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:54.960 are in your eight. They need to be able to 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:57.000 do that. If they can't do that, then you have 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:57.800 to put a line to them. 0:07:57.800 --> 0:07:59.320 Well, the start off the year that way, didn't they 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:01.560 They smashed the Titans away from home. He thought, oh wow, 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:03.840 and I didn't pick him week one. So they're playing 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.200 the Dolphins week too. I said, oh, I'm on the Dragons. 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:07.600 They get pump thirty eight la. 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:08.120 You know. 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:13.000 Then they they beat teams like they beat the Warriors 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:13.480 in Woongong. 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:15.440 They got smashed by sixty by the Roosters. 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:18.000 You know, they lose to the Sharks, they beat South, 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:22.320 they get smashed by Canterbury. They come and beat the Dragons. 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:26.000 Sorry that Panthers in fair records. It's a crazy stat. 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:29.440 I think Aaron Wallace from Fox League had a weird 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:34.240 stat that there's only one other team that's beaten Penrith 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:38.560 and Melbourne home and away in a season and that 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:40.800 was Paramatter in twenty twenty two in the last five years. 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:44.199 But so he's saying the Dragons are going to win, 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:46.440 They're going to win, They're going to go. This is well, 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:47.920 they're in the anything from there. 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:51.800 But that also says a bit about because I think 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:54.480 after all those blobout scores they came back and win, right, 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:56.240 They've been able to bounce back. So I think that 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:58.719 says a lot about the kind of coach Flannel is 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:00.439 and the way he's able to sort of lis a 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:03.800 response from his side when they've just been in the dumps. 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:05.520 But yeah, the key is consistency. 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:08.120 If they can find that consistency, then you know, as 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:11.320 Tyson said, you know, Cannavy are shown it can be consistent. 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:13.040 All of a sudden, you've got these two sides that 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:16.120 are struggled for a really long time playing some really 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:18.960 good footy. And I mean, I guess if you're a 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:21.000 Sydney footy fan, it's what you want. 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:22.760 You can tell how the Dragons are going to go 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:24.679 after the first fifteen minutes of a game. If they 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:26.720 come out with that kind of bully mentality, that Shane 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:29.640 Flanagan mentality, you know you're in for a rough night. 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:32.480 Both times a versus Tigers this year, they've come out 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:35.520 with that form and as a Tiger supporter, I'm like, going, no, 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:38.240 you know, but then you see him sometimes when they 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:40.520 don't come out with that form and that first impact, 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:43.080 that first carry is not that well, you kind of go, oh, 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:45.720 look to my Dragons mates, you guys are in for 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:46.520 a rough day to day. 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:48.440 But what impressed me most is you've got to do 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:50.839 it for eighty minutes against the Storm because they will 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:52.679 just pick you apart. And like I said, I was 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:56.520 just waiting at one point for Melbourne to turn it 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:58.880 on and just put on a move, blow them away 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:02.079 and then okay, just do what Melbourne do and then 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:05.120 they couldn't get the job done. So big game against 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:08.720 Bulldogs who were great against I thought your writers played 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:10.520 really well. It turned up read to play, but shows 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:11.760 you how tight the comp can be. 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:14.439 Yeah, And it was a strange game because there was 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:16.320 a lot of blowout scores in that round as well, 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:18.760 So I thought, you know, I don't know, maybe they're 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:19.480 going to turn it on. 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:21.800 But it was a really tight game. I mean, there 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:23.840 were I was really. 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:28.560 Surprised to see Ricky leave Ethan Strange out of that game. 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:34.440 He played all year, this massive game they need to win. 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:36.720 There's a final spot on the line, and sort of 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:38.560 the way he explained it after the game was he 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:41.880 felt like it was time to start managing his workload. 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:45.000 It was really curious cool and I don't know whether 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:48.360 I buy that. You know, he's played, he's played all year, 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:52.080 he's built that combination on the edge, and then to 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:55.640 pull him out of the game. I'm not gonna say 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:57.920 that's the reason why they lost, but it was a 0:10:58.040 --> 0:10:58.880 curious decision. 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:00.760 But yeah, they were, they were in it. 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:02.480 There was just a couple of tries from Canarry that 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:03.800 were just absolutely freaky. 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:04.280 You know. 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:08.600 You saw Stephen Crichton with his chip over the shoulder, 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:10.520 like how do you defend that? You know? And then 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:12.000 Matt Burdon had been sort of. 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:15.000 Kept his bomb sort of in the kit bag for 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:17.520 weeks and weeks and then comes up with with a 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:20.440 bomb and that I think Critter was on the other 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:23.679 side of their field gathered, you know, gives it off 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:27.640 to Fish josh Ada car and they score. So that 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:29.840 was the that was the difference in the end. I 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:33.719 think Burton's bomb so yeah in it, but still a 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:35.400 game that they had to win because the Raiders, if 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:37.000 you look at their own hand, and we're going to 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:38.520 look at it a little bit later, it is it 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:41.199 is tough. I don't think they could have afforded to 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:43.640 drop those two points, to be honest. 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:47.920 They shruggled to score points. I think defense on both 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.120 sides wasn't really the issue. And you look at you 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:53.720 look at the tries of the Bulldog scored and they weren't. 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:58.400 Like this is just individual brilliance. But Ethan Strange. I mean, 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:01.120 he's broken games open this year of them before. And 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:03.920 I think Cook's a great player, you know, playing in 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:06.120 the hards and he's a good backup player, but I 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:08.000 think he really got a back young guys there to 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:08.880 do a job. 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:12.360 And that's what I find found strange, Right, he backed 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:14.440 him all the way up until this point, and this 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:17.679 is probably the biggest game of their season and he's 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:18.440 not there so. 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:19.679 And it looked like they missed him. 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:23.440 I think I wonder what's going on there for Ricky 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:24.200 to make that call. 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:25.520 So we said it before. 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:28.319 I mean, you know, with Savage, right when Savage first 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.040 came through it, I was like, oh, this kid's a prodigy, 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:33.760 this kid's are that And Sticky sort of was bringing 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:35.320 him in and out of the side, adamant that he 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:37.360 was doing the right thing by him. I mean, eventually 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:40.240 Savage came good. But yeah, it is strange since he's 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:40.960 played the whole year. 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:43.720 I've got to ask. 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:47.920 I had the last rites fro him a couple of 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:50.360 weeks ago, but officially now the Broncos have gone for 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:54.400 the year. You talk about rosters that should be top 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:57.880 eight rosters and teams that were what seventeen minutes away 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.679 from a Grand Final and went until Nathan clearly work 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:01.960 from his slumber last year. 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:06.040 Where do you fix the Broncos? What is the issue? 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:08.160 And they don't have a lot of players coming off 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:10.480 contract the end of this year, Corio it's is still 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:11.480 banning for a contract. 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:12.559 They've got a couple. 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:15.040 Of most of the guys are on deck and then 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:19.880 come November one, you've got guys like Catoni Stags. So 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.720 we're expecting Reese Walsh to sign a new deal soon 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:24.360 and it's going to take up a lot of their 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:28.040 salary cap as well of a significantly larger portion than 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:31.320 it is currently. So I don't know if they're going 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:35.040 to be able to hit the market to bring in replacements. 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:37.800 When you look at them full strength, they don't need 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:38.840 to be in the market. 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:42.040 And I like, I understand something. So what's yeah, I 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:43.880 know that's that's it. What's the issue? 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:46.920 And the reality is I think they led into a 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:50.240 half time here and didn't score a point and the 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:52.800 Titans scored seven tries in the second half. 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:54.280 You know, that's a team. 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:56.280 And I think Kevy said it like there was just 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:59.520 no fight in that second half, and it's curious. It's like, 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:02.000 I just don't know. They just don't have any resilience. 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:04.320 They haven't had any resilience at all this year. 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:05.840 And I don't know. 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:09.720 Maybe maybe, you know, there's talk about the kind of 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.920 approach they took to the preseason after the Grand Final. 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:17.000 Maybe they looked around, it's a roster for the superstars. 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:20.800 They made the Grand Final. You know, maybe the preseason 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:23.000 wasn't as tough or as hard as ruling as it 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:25.560 should have been. Maybe Kevy, you know took the foot 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:29.320 off the pedal a little bit. I don't know, because 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:32.200 I think it's a mental It's not a roster thing, 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:33.320 it's not a skill thing. 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.960 It's got to be an attitude mental thing. 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:37.840 I'll touch on that. 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:42.800 I think it's really evident in sport and I guess 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:44.880 in life in general. It's hard to wake up and 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:47.160 get into the grind when you sleep in silk sheets. 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:50.640 I think the saying goes. You see it with athletes 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:52.880 all the time. You see it with people that move 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:54.960 up in the world all the time that all of 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:58.000 a sudden their lives kind of shift. You look at 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:01.920 the Broncos eighteen months. Are they the superstars they are 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:04.200 now or are they even close to it? No, all 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:07.440 of a sudden that they're the hottest things in rugby league. 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:10.040 They're almost the hottest thing in Australia sport. You go 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:12.680 to one of their games and you're seeing people there 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:15.320 that you would have never seen a rugby league game before. 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:17.160 But they're there because they're not there to watch the 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:18.920 freet They're there because they like these players and they 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:22.160 like the superstars that these players have have kind of become. 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:24.840 When you're getting all that love and attention. You're getting 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:26.120 the Instagram follows, are getting. 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:30.080 The endorsement deals, you're getting all that stuff. It's hard 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:32.280 to get up, go to training in the morning and 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:34.320 get up for the get up for the grind. Like 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:37.920 they've got the high life, you know, you look at 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:40.600 the way they live on their social media's and things 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:41.359 like that. 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:42.160 See it. 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:44.680 I do agree with you, But if you look at Penrith, 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:47.640 it's fair to say that Penrith experienced something similar. Right 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:51.000 all of a sudden, they were the kings of Western Sydney. 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:54.680 They were superstars wherever they went. You know, they're quite 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:57.240 vocal on social media. They don't hold back on social media. 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:00.280 But after they lost twenty twenty Grand Final, they worked 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:01.920 even harder, you know what I mean, Like. 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:03.600 They doubt about it where it come from. 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:06.680 Though they came from that kind of that twenty nineteen 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:10.440 they weren't. They weren't that crash hot Ivan Cleary blooded. 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:13.520 A lot of young players they dealt with that kind 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:18.040 of hardship. These young guys, guys like Reese Walsh, Patrick Carrigan, 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:21.160 they're informed that will not the best form, but they're 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:24.360 still playing decent footy. But they've been handed all this 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:26.920 luxury straight away. I don't think they know how to 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:28.520 deal with it, and I think that's what's making them 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:31.000 struggle on the field, because they're not there for the 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:31.560 fight that. 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:36.000 You know, what is going on at training, other coaching 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:40.120 staff being hard enough on them to build that toughness 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:42.920 and that resilience. It's you know, you've got to we're 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:48.080 getting to a point where man managing your players is 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.800 as important as them being well drilled and well coached 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:52.720 and skilled in the rest of it. And I think 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:55.440 that's what Penrith has done really well. You know, like 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:58.400 Ivan Cleary is obviously an incredible coach, but he's also 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:02.760 been really good at managing his players, the personalities of 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:05.080 his players. And I wonder whether you know Kevy or 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:07.840 anybody at the Broncos has done a good enough job 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:11.199 on the soft skills side of things as opposed to 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:14.080 you know, they don't need too much coaching because they're already, 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:16.399 like you said, individually, quite brilliant players. 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:20.640 It's quite a juxtaposition when you think that this Red 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:22.520 Hill is still the place where a couple of weeks 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:25.679 ago they're erecting fences, mesh fences to keep the fans 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:28.879 out and hiring extra security to deal with the popularity 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:29.320 of this team. 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:31.040 That was just on a tail spin. 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.840 But speaking of someone from a rival club the other 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:36.240 day about the Broncos, he pointed out something really interesting. 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:38.679 He said that they know if you chip away at 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:41.480 the Broncos this season, you can beat them, because he 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:44.080 pointed out there was a lack of discipline in their 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:46.880 defense where you had guys shooting out of the line, 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:51.160 guys not trusting the guy inside, and the second efforts 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:54.080 weren't there if they do concede a tackle bus last 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:56.399 year you saw the hunger to sit there and chase 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:58.400 down as a team and hunting a pack in defense, 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:00.879 and they haven't done that this year. And that if 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:03.080 you can break them open a little bit, you can 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:05.320 get through them. And that's the way they're going. You 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:07.000