1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: Better than Lego, better than Leo Chance. Gooday, it's Mobsy 2 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: here And if you're listening to this episode of the 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: Daily Telegraph Errol Podcast in your Maddie John's podcast feed, welcome. 4 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: We're with you instead of Maddie and Cooper Kronk for 5 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: the next three weeks while Maddie is in Paris, and 6 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: we're going to get into it the run up to 7 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: the finals everything NRL. All right, we're back for another 8 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,319 Speaker 1: episode of the Daily Telegraph Errol Podcast. Adam Mob's here 9 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: with you with Fatima Cado. How are you going, Fatima? 10 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: I am well and went on, but well. 11 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: Underwell Tyson Jackson who jumping in the hot seat this 12 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: week and you and I've got a little bit of 13 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: sideband going at the moment because I'm an ils man 14 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: and you're a Tiger supporter, and we thought round twenty 15 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: seven might be the wooden spoon by my friend, but 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: you might have just got the jump on you after 17 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: last weekend. 18 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 3: Ah, there's still a couple of weeks left. I wouldn't 19 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 3: get to ahead of yourself. I jumped on the ladder 20 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: predicted last night and the Tiger's still going to finish 21 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 3: sixteenth and there's only one team they'll finish below that. 22 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 4: So I'll leave that to your imagination. 23 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 5: On your left, questioning Mobs, where where that performance from 24 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 5: the Ills was six eight weeks ago? Look, well, maybe 25 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 5: it's a it's a taste of they're just resigned to 26 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 5: the fact that the season is done and there's that 27 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 5: less pressure and no. 28 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: Well you look last week they were the better team 29 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: in the first half against Melbourne and trailed. They threw 30 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: a couple of trial, gave a couple of tries up, 31 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: they had all the possession. 32 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 6: You look back earlier in the year, they should have beaten. 33 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: Canary that time when they didn't know Mitch Moses should 34 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: have iced that game. They were in it against the 35 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: Roosters that time. There was three games in the middle. 36 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: I think the Gold Coast was the other one. That 37 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: games they should have one that would have you look 38 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: at that roster. They're not a wooden spoon roster enough. 39 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: It's tice, but yeah, but it is. 40 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 4: What it is. 41 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 5: And they did play in patches this year where you're 42 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 5: got your thinking like, how is this team at bottom 43 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 5: of the roster, bottom of the table even with all 44 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 5: the injuries they've had in the setbacks and the rest 45 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 5: of it. So maybe it's not as bad it Maybe 46 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 5: it's not bottom of the barrel just yet. Maybe it 47 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 5: might be if the chat on the radio this morning 48 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 5: through that Mitch that the Dragons and monitoring Mitchell Moses's situation. 49 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, so is that in the same conversation that Mitchell 50 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: wants to get somewhere where he's going to win a 51 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: camp and Georgia Laura and that conversation. 52 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 4: Come on, I'm anymore. 53 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: Well, Flanet is a premiership winning coach, so he's got 54 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: that over. 55 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: Jason Royles, Well he is. And what about the what 56 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: do you make of the Dragons at the weekend? 57 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 4: Very good? I thought they were. They were very good. 58 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: Yeah they were, they were good. 59 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 5: I didn't realize it was Anthony Monday and Hudo. Is 60 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 5: this another like generational thing that we should have about it? 61 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: Well? Yeah, ninety nine Grand Final they were with a 62 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: whisker of beating Melbourne. Obviously there was the Craig Smith. 63 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 4: Incident in the call with Jamie Ayin's co. 64 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: And the penalty try, but you know they were within 65 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: a whisker winning it. When Mundine was it could have 66 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: passed it right on the line when himself knocked it 67 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: on and Chock said the next year, you know, we're 68 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: going to charm who the real deal is. And Melbourne 69 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: pumped them seventy to ten following they haven't won in 70 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: twenty five years down there. 71 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 4: But tell you what, what. 72 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: Shane Flatagan's done with this team, that same roster as 73 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: last year and to go down there to Melbourne, I 74 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: don't care who you are, especially the Dragons after twenty 75 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: five years to put in the performance they did and 76 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: you're always sitting here watching this going, oh god, Melbourne 77 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: are going to do something here. They're just going to 78 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: find a way, find a way. And the Dragons held 79 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: so firm in defense, unbelievable. Jaden Sewer I thought was 80 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: terrific in attack. 81 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 4: Again, he's been great. 82 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 5: It's missing out on origin in that last game, I 83 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 5: think it was, yeah, and they're just in terms of 84 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 5: like physicality, conditioning fitness wise. They matched it with a 85 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 5: storm the storm or obviously I know they've been sort 86 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 5: of off the pace the last couple of weeks. They've 87 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 5: probably got away with one last week they think. For 88 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 5: the Dragons for me is when they're in that mood 89 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 5: like they were against the storm. 90 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 2: You know, they look like a top. 91 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 5: Eight team, but then they get blown off the park 92 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 5: every now and then, so they're still struggling for that 93 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 5: consistency and I know that's something that Shane Flanagan is 94 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 5: working on. But you know, the people derided their forward 95 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 5: pack seems to be matching them. 96 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 2: They've got really big outside backs. Zach Climax. 97 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 5: I feel it's probably been a little bit off the 98 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 5: pace since Origin, but you know, yeah, they look good 99 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 5: and it sets up a massive game at Cobra against Canterbury. 100 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 6: What do you think of Tyrrel Sloan's performance, Tice? 101 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 3: I thought coming back and all the criticism, I thought 102 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 3: it was was all right. I thought, you know, I 103 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: spoke to Flano last week before they left for Melbourne, 104 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 3: and I was surprised when Flano was very open and 105 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 3: saying that he didn't want to bring him back. 106 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 4: I thought that was not a tough call. 107 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 3: But I mean to come and tell the media that 108 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 3: you don't see many other coaches doing that. So that 109 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 3: might have lit a rocket under tyrelle and I think 110 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 3: after a win like that he probably keeps his spot. 111 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 4: I'm so happy for him. 112 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm so happy because Flannel has not been backwards in 113 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: coming forward about Tyrell Sloan's form and what he sees 114 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: as deficiencies in his role as a fallback. You know, 115 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: he's sometimes that, you know, willing to put your head 116 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: in the areas that other people won't put them, that 117 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: kind of thing. But obviously was the ball support runner 118 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: that we saw on the weekend, of course, but you know, 119 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: he didn't shirk his responsibilities at all. 120 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 4: And they were they were so tough. 121 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: They were so tough out there just supporting each other 122 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: through the middle. And Flano has got him playing some 123 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: really nice football. And I don't know about you guys, 124 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: we'll get to this. I've got to be my eight 125 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: for the rest of the season. I think they're going 126 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: to play finals. 127 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's it's kind of between. 128 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 3: The Dragons will only make it the Titan Stone, so 129 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 3: they need the Titans to drop off a couple of 130 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 3: massive weeks though, like we said, that Bulldogs game is 131 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 3: going to be unbelievable. 132 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 4: Sell out a cogra. 133 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 3: I'm a local there so you might see might. 134 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 4: Get around, but yeah, I can't wait. 135 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 3: Rugby League is a good place when the Dragons and 136 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 3: the Bulldogs hopefully one day. The Tigers are doing well, 137 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 3: so I'm excited. I think, yeah, like a world of momentum. 138 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: The atmosphere comes Saturday night at Cogra is going to 139 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:42,799 Speaker 3: be unbelievable. 140 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 5: It's going to be interesting because it's two very passionate 141 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 5: you know, Sydney supporter Basis So. I think Flannel was 142 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 5: on the radio this morning saying how much they love 143 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 5: coming to Cogra to play because it is a different 144 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 5: group of fans, you know, to the Ilawara so and 145 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 5: we saw all the scenes at Bellmore they were carrying 146 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 5: on like they just won the Grand Final. So they're 147 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 5: probably going to take over the streets of Cogar as 148 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 5: well if they win too. But it'll be the same 149 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 5: for the Dragons, who you know, if they put themselves 150 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 5: well and truly in the finals race, if they get 151 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 5: over the Bulldogs, I think it's going to be it'll 152 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 5: be interesting because they're both greedy teams when they can be, 153 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 5: and they both can score points when they want to. 154 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 5: But I think it's going to be a tight, closer, 155 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 5: fair and I think defense is going to win this one, 156 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 5: and they're both defensive minded coaches. 157 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 3: So yeah, well looked. I looked last night. The Dragons 158 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: have only won back to back games twice this year. Yeah, 159 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 3: so massive tests. If that's their deficiency. There might be 160 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: a bit of complacency. They have a real high one 161 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: week and then the next week drop a bit. I 162 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 3: don't know, but that's that's going to be the biggest 163 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 3: test for them, is to go back to back, if 164 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 3: only the third time this year. And I mean to 165 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 3: get into that top eight mobs. You say the Dragons 166 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: are in your eight. They need to be able to 167 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 3: do that. If they can't do that, then you have 168 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 3: to put a line to them. 169 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: Well, the start off the year that way, didn't they 170 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: They smashed the Titans away from home. He thought, oh wow, 171 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: and I didn't pick him week one. So they're playing 172 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: the Dolphins week too. I said, oh, I'm on the Dragons. 173 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: They get pump thirty eight la. 174 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 4: You know. 175 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: Then they they beat teams like they beat the Warriors 176 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: in Woongong. 177 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 6: They got smashed by sixty by the Roosters. 178 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: You know, they lose to the Sharks, they beat South, 179 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: they get smashed by Canterbury. They come and beat the Dragons. 180 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: Sorry that Panthers in fair records. It's a crazy stat. 181 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: I think Aaron Wallace from Fox League had a weird 182 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: stat that there's only one other team that's beaten Penrith 183 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: and Melbourne home and away in a season and that 184 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: was Paramatter in twenty twenty two in the last five years. 185 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 4: But so he's saying the Dragons are going to win, 186 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 4: They're going to win, They're going to go. This is well, 187 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 4: they're in the anything from there. 188 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: But that also says a bit about because I think 189 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: after all those blobout scores they came back and win, right, 190 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: They've been able to bounce back. So I think that 191 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 2: says a lot about the kind of coach Flannel is 192 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 2: and the way he's able to sort of lis a 193 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: response from his side when they've just been in the dumps. 194 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: But yeah, the key is consistency. 195 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 5: If they can find that consistency, then you know, as 196 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 5: Tyson said, you know, Cannavy are shown it can be consistent. 197 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 5: All of a sudden, you've got these two sides that 198 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 5: are struggled for a really long time playing some really 199 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 5: good footy. And I mean, I guess if you're a 200 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 5: Sydney footy fan, it's what you want. 201 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 3: You can tell how the Dragons are going to go 202 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 3: after the first fifteen minutes of a game. If they 203 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 3: come out with that kind of bully mentality, that Shane 204 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 3: Flanagan mentality, you know you're in for a rough night. 205 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 3: Both times a versus Tigers this year, they've come out 206 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: with that form and as a Tiger supporter, I'm like, going, no, 207 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 3: you know, but then you see him sometimes when they 208 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 3: don't come out with that form and that first impact, 209 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 3: that first carry is not that well, you kind of go, oh, 210 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 3: look to my Dragons mates, you guys are in for 211 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 3: a rough day to day. 212 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: But what impressed me most is you've got to do 213 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: it for eighty minutes against the Storm because they will 214 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: just pick you apart. And like I said, I was 215 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: just waiting at one point for Melbourne to turn it 216 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: on and just put on a move, blow them away 217 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 1: and then okay, just do what Melbourne do and then 218 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: they couldn't get the job done. So big game against 219 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: Bulldogs who were great against I thought your writers played 220 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: really well. It turned up read to play, but shows 221 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: you how tight the comp can be. 222 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, And it was a strange game because there was 223 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 5: a lot of blowout scores in that round as well, 224 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 5: So I thought, you know, I don't know, maybe they're 225 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 5: going to turn it on. 226 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 2: But it was a really tight game. I mean, there 227 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 2: were I was really. 228 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 5: Surprised to see Ricky leave Ethan Strange out of that game. 229 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 5: He played all year, this massive game they need to win. 230 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 5: There's a final spot on the line, and sort of 231 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 5: the way he explained it after the game was he 232 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 5: felt like it was time to start managing his workload. 233 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 5: It was really curious cool and I don't know whether 234 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 5: I buy that. You know, he's played, he's played all year, 235 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 5: he's built that combination on the edge, and then to 236 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 5: pull him out of the game. I'm not gonna say 237 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 5: that's the reason why they lost, but it was a 238 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 5: curious decision. 239 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, they were, they were in it. 240 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 5: There was just a couple of tries from Canarry that 241 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 5: were just absolutely freaky. 242 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: You know. 243 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: You saw Stephen Crichton with his chip over the shoulder, 244 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: like how do you defend that? You know? And then 245 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 2: Matt Burdon had been sort of. 246 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 5: Kept his bomb sort of in the kit bag for 247 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 5: weeks and weeks and then comes up with with a 248 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 5: bomb and that I think Critter was on the other 249 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 5: side of their field gathered, you know, gives it off 250 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 5: to Fish josh Ada car and they score. So that 251 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 5: was the that was the difference in the end. I 252 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 5: think Burton's bomb so yeah in it, but still a 253 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 5: game that they had to win because the Raiders, if 254 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 5: you look at their own hand, and we're going to 255 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 5: look at it a little bit later, it is it 256 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 5: is tough. I don't think they could have afforded to 257 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 5: drop those two points, to be honest. 258 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 3: They shruggled to score points. I think defense on both 259 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 3: sides wasn't really the issue. And you look at you 260 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 3: look at the tries of the Bulldog scored and they weren't. 261 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 3: Like this is just individual brilliance. But Ethan Strange. I mean, 262 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 3: he's broken games open this year of them before. And 263 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 3: I think Cook's a great player, you know, playing in 264 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 3: the hards and he's a good backup player, but I 265 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 3: think he really got a back young guys there to 266 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 3: do a job. 267 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 5: And that's what I find found strange, Right, he backed 268 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 5: him all the way up until this point, and this 269 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 5: is probably the biggest game of their season and he's 270 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 5: not there so. 271 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 4: And it looked like they missed him. 272 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 6: I think I wonder what's going on there for Ricky 273 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 6: to make that call. 274 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 4: So we said it before. 275 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, with Savage, right when Savage first 276 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 5: came through it, I was like, oh, this kid's a prodigy, 277 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 5: this kid's are that And Sticky sort of was bringing 278 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 5: him in and out of the side, adamant that he 279 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 5: was doing the right thing by him. I mean, eventually 280 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 5: Savage came good. But yeah, it is strange since he's 281 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 5: played the whole year. 282 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 4: I've got to ask. 283 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: I had the last rites fro him a couple of 284 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: weeks ago, but officially now the Broncos have gone for 285 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: the year. You talk about rosters that should be top 286 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: eight rosters and teams that were what seventeen minutes away 287 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: from a Grand Final and went until Nathan clearly work 288 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: from his slumber last year. 289 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 6: Where do you fix the Broncos? What is the issue? 290 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: And they don't have a lot of players coming off 291 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: contract the end of this year, Corio it's is still 292 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: banning for a contract. 293 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 4: They've got a couple. 294 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: Of most of the guys are on deck and then 295 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: come November one, you've got guys like Catoni Stags. So 296 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: we're expecting Reese Walsh to sign a new deal soon 297 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: and it's going to take up a lot of their 298 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: salary cap as well of a significantly larger portion than 299 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: it is currently. So I don't know if they're going 300 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: to be able to hit the market to bring in replacements. 301 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 5: When you look at them full strength, they don't need 302 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 5: to be in the market. 303 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: And I like, I understand something. So what's yeah, I 304 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: know that's that's it. What's the issue? 305 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 5: And the reality is I think they led into a 306 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 5: half time here and didn't score a point and the 307 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 5: Titans scored seven tries in the second half. 308 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 2: You know, that's a team. 309 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 5: And I think Kevy said it like there was just 310 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 5: no fight in that second half, and it's curious. It's like, 311 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 5: I just don't know. They just don't have any resilience. 312 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 5: They haven't had any resilience at all this year. 313 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 2: And I don't know. 314 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 5: Maybe maybe, you know, there's talk about the kind of 315 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 5: approach they took to the preseason after the Grand Final. 316 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 5: Maybe they looked around, it's a roster for the superstars. 317 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 5: They made the Grand Final. You know, maybe the preseason 318 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 5: wasn't as tough or as hard as ruling as it 319 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 5: should have been. Maybe Kevy, you know took the foot 320 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 5: off the pedal a little bit. I don't know, because 321 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 5: I think it's a mental It's not a roster thing, 322 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 5: it's not a skill thing. 323 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: It's got to be an attitude mental thing. 324 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 4: I'll touch on that. 325 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 3: I think it's really evident in sport and I guess 326 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 3: in life in general. It's hard to wake up and 327 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 3: get into the grind when you sleep in silk sheets. 328 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 3: I think the saying goes. You see it with athletes 329 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 3: all the time. You see it with people that move 330 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 3: up in the world all the time that all of 331 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 3: a sudden their lives kind of shift. You look at 332 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 3: the Broncos eighteen months. Are they the superstars they are 333 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 3: now or are they even close to it? No, all 334 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 3: of a sudden that they're the hottest things in rugby league. 335 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 3: They're almost the hottest thing in Australia sport. You go 336 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: to one of their games and you're seeing people there 337 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 3: that you would have never seen a rugby league game before. 338 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: But they're there because they're not there to watch the 339 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 3: freet They're there because they like these players and they 340 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 3: like the superstars that these players have have kind of become. 341 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 4: When you're getting all that love and attention. You're getting 342 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 4: the Instagram follows, are getting. 343 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 3: The endorsement deals, you're getting all that stuff. It's hard 344 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 3: to get up, go to training in the morning and 345 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 3: get up for the get up for the grind. Like 346 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 3: they've got the high life, you know, you look at 347 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 3: the way they live on their social media's and things 348 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:41,359 Speaker 3: like that. 349 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 4: See it. 350 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 5: I do agree with you, But if you look at Penrith, 351 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 5: it's fair to say that Penrith experienced something similar. Right 352 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 5: all of a sudden, they were the kings of Western Sydney. 353 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 5: They were superstars wherever they went. You know, they're quite 354 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 5: vocal on social media. They don't hold back on social media. 355 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 5: But after they lost twenty twenty Grand Final, they worked 356 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 5: even harder, you know what I mean, Like. 357 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 4: They doubt about it where it come from. 358 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 3: Though they came from that kind of that twenty nineteen 359 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 3: they weren't. They weren't that crash hot Ivan Cleary blooded. 360 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 3: A lot of young players they dealt with that kind 361 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: of hardship. These young guys, guys like Reese Walsh, Patrick Carrigan, 362 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 3: they're informed that will not the best form, but they're 363 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 3: still playing decent footy. But they've been handed all this 364 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 3: luxury straight away. I don't think they know how to 365 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 3: deal with it, and I think that's what's making them 366 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 3: struggle on the field, because they're not there for the 367 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 3: fight that. 368 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 5: You know, what is going on at training, other coaching 369 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 5: staff being hard enough on them to build that toughness 370 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 5: and that resilience. It's you know, you've got to we're 371 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 5: getting to a point where man managing your players is 372 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 5: as important as them being well drilled and well coached 373 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 5: and skilled in the rest of it. And I think 374 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 5: that's what Penrith has done really well. You know, like 375 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 5: Ivan Cleary is obviously an incredible coach, but he's also 376 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 5: been really good at managing his players, the personalities of 377 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 5: his players. And I wonder whether you know Kevy or 378 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 5: anybody at the Broncos has done a good enough job 379 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 5: on the soft skills side of things as opposed to 380 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 5: you know, they don't need too much coaching because they're already, 381 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 5: like you said, individually, quite brilliant players. 382 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: It's quite a juxtaposition when you think that this Red 383 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: Hill is still the place where a couple of weeks 384 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 1: ago they're erecting fences, mesh fences to keep the fans 385 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: out and hiring extra security to deal with the popularity 386 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: of this team. 387 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 4: That was just on a tail spin. 388 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: But speaking of someone from a rival club the other 389 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: day about the Broncos, he pointed out something really interesting. 390 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 1: He said that they know if you chip away at 391 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: the Broncos this season, you can beat them, because he 392 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: pointed out there was a lack of discipline in their 393 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: defense where you had guys shooting out of the line, 394 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: guys not trusting the guy inside, and the second efforts 395 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: weren't there if they do concede a tackle bus last 396 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: year you saw the hunger to sit there and chase 397 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 1: down as a team and hunting a pack in defense, 398 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: and they haven't done that this year. And that if 399 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: you can break them open a little bit, you can 400 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: get through them. And that's the way they're going. You 401 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: saw what the Titans did the other day, and you 402 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: saw I think, particularly what chem Serroaldo did the week 403 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: before when targeting those edges and finding where they thought, Okay, 404 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: this is where we can get through and the week 405 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: before was done without Stephen Crichton, you know, And yeah, 406 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think there's a lot of soul 407 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: search and do at Redhill ahead of the next season 408 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:30,479 Speaker 1: because you know, someone out my Wakers living at Penrith 409 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: way very happily pointed out that the three of the 410 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: bottom four teams are Grand finalists, beating Green Files from Penrith, 411 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: from Penrith, the So you Tigers sixteenth, my ills, but 412 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: we're fifteenth. We Broncos fifteenth now and South's fourteenth. That's 413 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: vi versus. 414 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 5: So Penrith are building their own dynasty all the while 415 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:54,959 Speaker 5: ruining everybody else's. 416 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks a lot, Penrith. 417 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 5: It's fascinating. You know, all those sides of their have 418 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 5: gone on to to miss the final. 419 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 4: Fascinating. That's a lot. 420 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 6: Oh but yeah, anyway, can anyone stop. 421 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 2: Penrith at the moment? 422 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 5: I think I think maybe Melbourne have another gear in them, 423 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 5: I reckon even though they've been the latter of leaders 424 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 5: like all season, I feel like they're probably we haven't 425 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 5: seen the best of them just yet. And I also 426 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 5: think we probably haven't seen the best of Penrith just 427 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 5: yet because they have. I mean, Fish was out Fish 428 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 5: and Harris was out for this game. He'll be out 429 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 5: for three more weeks once they're full strength. 430 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't I don't know. 431 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 5: I don't know, Like you look at the outside of 432 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 5: the storm in the top four at the moment, you've 433 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 5: got Kanula and you've got the Roosters. I don't think 434 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 5: either of them at the moment can challenge those two 435 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 5: the Roosters have. They're another one like just completely star 436 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 5: studded outfit and for somebody called them for twenty minutes 437 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 5: every week they look like the Harlem Globe Trotters, and 438 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 5: then all of a sudden they switch off and again 439 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 5: they're another team that hasn't found any consistency. They also 440 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 5: haven't beaten anybody above them on the ladder this year, 441 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 5: so I lost to Kanola, I think they've lost to 442 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 5: Melbourne twice and I've lost to Penrith, so they don't 443 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 5: really have a good record against the other genuine contenders. 444 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 5: I don't know whether I'm thinking way too deeply into this, 445 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 5: but if it holds true that defense wins premierships, then 446 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 5: you have to be you have to include Canterbury in 447 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 5: that conversation at the moment. And it feels, I don't know, 448 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 5: I feel it feels like I'm talking, you know, shit 449 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 5: when I say it out loud, But I mean, I 450 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 5: think the average points conceded in the last like twenty 451 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 5: years for the Premiere has been about sixteen points per game. 452 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 5: And right now, outside of Penrith, Canbary are the best 453 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 5: defensive team in the competition. 454 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 4: Well, you do know. 455 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: Twenty fourteen Grand Final yet Canterbury and four ninety four. 456 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 6: Yeap, And then yeah, let's not talk about eighty four. 457 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 5: Well, I don't know, maybe that's another one of those 458 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 5: things that holds true. But yeah, if if defense does 459 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 5: win Premierships, then you know, Canterbury has earned the right 460 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 5: to be in that conversation. 461 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 4: Going back to seventy four? 462 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 3: Can I give, I'll give, I'll give a sneaky for you. 463 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 3: Like I said, I was on Ladder Predict the last 464 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 3: night just with a friend on the phone, and we'll 465 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 3: kind of you must have. 466 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 4: A fascinating It was about nine point thirty. 467 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 3: I just finished Joe Rogan's new comedy special on Netflix, 468 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 3: and I was like, I wonder we may soon we 469 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 3: went through the last couple of rounds. I think that 470 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 3: I don't see the Panthers in the storm both making 471 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 3: the Grand Final. I think the Riosters still have a 472 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 3: bit of footy left to play. That we haven't seen yet. 473 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 3: And I also think the risk is going to get 474 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 3: up for someone like Jared for the last couple of weeks. 475 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 3: I think it's really important to them and Robo will 476 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 3: get that into them. So I can see a world 477 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 3: where the Roosters play Panthers in week one of the 478 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 3: finals and can somehow knock them off. 479 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 4: This could be our last podcast. Yes, just just wait, 480 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 4: just wait. 481 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 3: I still see Panthers making the Grand Final though, because 482 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 3: then I see Panthers beating the storm in the week before, 483 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 3: and then I have a Rooster's Bulldogs Grand Final this year. 484 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 4: Roosters Bulldogs Grand Final. 485 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: Wow? 486 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 6: Okay, geez, can I ask about anything? 487 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: Was there any illicit substances? 488 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 4: Take? 489 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: That's wild, Although I do like I love the idea 490 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: of Fatima of the camp being a bit more open 491 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: because no offense. 492 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 4: Guys, I see it. 493 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: I think it's it's absolutely sounds a big bulb call, 494 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: but it's penis to lose. 495 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 4: They just bulldogs Panthers. Why don't say Roosters, I meant 496 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 4: Bulldogs Panthers. 497 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 7: Oh hang, because I said it, and then I was like, wait, 498 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 7: that doesn't make sense, and then yes, so bulldogs Bulldogs 499 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 7: will get in from the from outside of the fort 500 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 7: and then Panthers will we'll get into the Grand Final 501 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 7: by beating the storm. 502 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 4: In the week before the ground. 503 00:22:58,840 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 2: His Panthers. 504 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 5: Oh, I mean that would be I mean when you 505 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 5: think about Grand finals and I know we're being we're 506 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 5: probably being very you know, selfish as people from New 507 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 5: South Wales, but that is like, you can't get any 508 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 5: better than that. 509 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 3: You need to be stuck in that car park at 510 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 3: home Bush. I hated to be stuck with that car park. 511 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 4: We transport as well. 512 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: That's all you need. Yeah, it's I like that. I 513 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: like that's interesting. You got me a little excited because 514 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: it's funny. Penrith weren't great yesterday against Newcastle. Newcastle I 515 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: thought fought really hard and for a team down down 516 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: on a little bit, but Penrith just seemed to find 517 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: that way, that that bit of that bit of excellence 518 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: that when you need that little five percent, Penrith have 519 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 1: it and they have it in different areas where you know, 520 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: I know it's been making clearly the last couple of weeks, 521 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: but you've got Jerme Lewis been carrying them for a 522 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: lot this season. Dylan Edwards still to come back when 523 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: the forwards turn it on. 524 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 2: It's I mean, yeah, I mean Isaiah A. YOUNGI was 525 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 2: their third string fullback, do you know what I mean? 526 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 2: And it's just it's ridiculous if they either get the 527 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 2: McLean brothers. 528 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: As well and they've saw another one in Powers. Sorry, 529 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: I'm just venting. Session'm still in over Blaze TOOLONGI. 530 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 4: Oh yeah. 531 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 2: No, but it's just just on that. It just got 532 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 2: me thinking. 533 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 5: And I can't remember which because of covered Penrith quite 534 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 5: close to the last couple of years, and I can't remember. 535 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 5: It was after the winning the first Grand Final. It's 536 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 5: when I watched Penrith play, especially when they're completely like 537 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 5: when they're peaking, when they're at their best, and it 538 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 5: was something that I think it was Jerome that drevel 539 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 5: I said to me, we know how to win Grand 540 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 5: finals now, and you can sort of see it when 541 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 5: when they're peaking, and I think that's probably another thing 542 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 5: you talk about what separates them from everything else. 543 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 2: They've got this sort of knowledge that you know on 544 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: how to. 545 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,719 Speaker 5: Win big games that other teams just because they've been 546 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 5: so good and so dominant, haven't had the chance to 547 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 5: experience yet. So I think that also is another thing 548 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 5: that is probably the difference for them that separates them 549 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 5: from everyone else. 550 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, So am I right in saying I think the 551 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: top seven spots standard mainly, I think are sewn up. 552 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: I think those seven teams will play finals. Are we 553 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: happy to say that the remaining teams your Dolphins, Raiders, Dragons, 554 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 1: Knights are playing for the remaining spots and the Titans, 555 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: who although the Titans and Knights both have to win 556 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: all their games and overcomes some pretty horrific points differential, 557 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: So I think your Raiders, unfortunately for Tama, have the 558 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: toughest run of anyone on the way home. 559 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I just need to I think I got 560 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 2: the lad a little bit wrong. 561 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 5: So the Dragons at eighth at the moment, Dolphins are ninth, 562 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 5: Camera are tenth, and the Titans. 563 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: Are Titans eleventh, Nights twelfth, yere. But I think your Raiders, 564 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: who are sitting in tenth, Seagulls at home, Cowboys away, 565 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: Panthers at home, Roosters away, Dragons away. 566 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 6: I can't. I can't see that getting him into the eight. 567 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: You know, the Dolphins the last couple of weeks, their 568 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: losses are going to come back to haunt them. I 569 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: think especially they've got the Warriors this week, but the 570 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: next two weeks Tice Bulldogs away, Storm away. I think 571 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: that'll be costly. That's their season on the line. 572 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think they I think the Dolphins 573 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 3: be the Warriors. Depending on the result between the Bulldogs 574 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 3: and the Dragons will vary how that game goes. I 575 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 3: think I really think the Dolphins can only afford to 576 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 3: drop one out of those and you're probably etching that 577 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 3: against the Storm. 578 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 4: So yeah, it's there's also. 579 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 5: Like when you look at it and you know there's 580 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 5: also Baniga pill games for all those sides in that 581 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 5: run home. You know, like the Eels I reckon are 582 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 5: going to be a thorn for some sides. The Titans 583 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 5: are playing with. 584 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 4: Try scond after me. Now it's too late. 585 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: Bidens have played some really good football. 586 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 5: I mean, we saw that the Knights refused to go 587 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 5: against the Panthers and sort of those three side. 588 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: Titans could be the best second half football team I've 589 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: ever seen. Yeah, what about that halftime sprays from Das 590 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: must be epic? My goodness, there's second halve's lately been terrific. 591 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: But that's shows what potential they've got, I know, I 592 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: think from this year, from next year on with Dez 593 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: having his second year, to see what. 594 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 6: He can do with them. 595 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 2: But you know, they're still a J. 596 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 5: Bimson and no Tenflali, so it's definitely got But that's 597 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 5: what we sort of expected anyway. What we're seeing now 598 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 5: from the Titans is what we sort of thought Des 599 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 5: was going to deliver right from the start. It just 600 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 5: took a little bit of a while for everything to 601 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 5: gel and then out of nowhere, Kinney dispersed onto the 602 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 5: scene and he just you know, it has added another 603 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 5: sort of X factor player for them. So yeah, but 604 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 5: sides like the Titans, like the Eels, like the Knights, 605 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 5: I reckon will have a bit of a say into 606 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 5: how the top eight ends as a booking. 607 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, Well, the Dragons have got two really 608 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: big although they've got a lot of big games because 609 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: they're sitting in eighth with a bad points differential, but 610 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: they're on twenty six points. There are two points ahead 611 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: of Canberra and then who were over at the Gold 612 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: Coast in the night, so they've got that advantage. 613 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 6: Sorry, yeah, ahead of Dolphins and Camera. 614 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: But the next two weeks Bulldogs at home, Titans at 615 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: home in and they're basically well those first two four 616 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: point turnaround games for you know, where you sit on 617 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: the ladder, you know you can put yourself that you 618 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: know you can you can climb up towards Canterbury or 619 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: you can. 620 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 4: Escape the Gold Coast there. 621 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: And then you've got that Shark's home game, which is huge, 622 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: and then they finish off away to Paramatta and then 623 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: Canber again at home. 624 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 4: So it's a winnable lot of games. 625 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: But if that schizophrenic Dragons outfit to what you're earlier 626 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: turn up, who knows. So that's yeah, it's getting interesting. 627 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, from teams that didn't make it last year, 628 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: Canterbury St. Georgia, lawarav got them coming in. 629 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean. 630 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, like I said earlier, I think Canberra 631 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 5: had to win that game against Dotties just to keep 632 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 5: their chances alive. You look at their run, it's probably 633 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 5: a bit maybe a stretch too far. 634 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 2: So the same with the Dolphins. 635 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 5: You know, they're sort of sort of going through the 636 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 5: same late season fade out as they did last year. 637 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 5: So I mean, if you look at the if you 638 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 5: look at the way the top eight looks at the moment, 639 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 5: it's probably going to be that way in five weeks. 640 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: And the Cowboys are going to buy as well, which 641 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: means they only need one win to book a final spot. 642 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: But Bronco's Raiders Storm Bulldogs not an easy run. So 643 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: you know, for a team that's sitting six, then you 644 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: know potentially could push for a top four spot. It's 645 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: a tough lot of games if they managed to win those, 646 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: who knows, but you know they could sort of slip 647 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: down that pecking order a little bit, don't. 648 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 3: I don't like the Cowboys, so I think if the 649 00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 3: team's going to slip out, it's going to be them. 650 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 3: To be honest, I don't think they're locked in. 651 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 4: Was that. I just think they're too inconsistent, way, way, 652 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 4: way too inconsistent. You've got twenty eight points, they're sitting 653 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 4: in six that. 654 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 3: They almost I spoke to Todd Payden after their game 655 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 3: against the Tigers and he was worried if I Popolie 656 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 3: scored that they were going to lose and they had 657 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 3: twelve men on the field, like you're I said it 658 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 3: from from day dot. They they tend to just be scraping, 659 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 3: scraping by scraping by. If they lose a couple of 660 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 3: the next ones, and you know, things go right for 661 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 3: these other teams, they can slide out. I don't think 662 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 3: it's as locked in as as maybe it looks. 663 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 4: Just maybe I'm saying that they just cool. If you 664 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 4: go after me, that's fine. 665 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 2: Yeah you when you did you allow a predictor yesterday? 666 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 2: Where did you have them? N Okay? 667 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 4: Wow, you sneaking in ahead of them. I've got the 668 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 4: Dragons and the Dolphins. Dragons and Dolphins. Yeah wow. 669 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 3: I don't think dragons nights. I saw dragons, Titans and 670 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 3: Dolphins can make it. But I think the Dragons and 671 00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 3: the Dolphins can make it over the Cowboys. 672 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: Wow, you're predicting a really to our North Queensland listeners, 673 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: I must apologize that. I'll send your Tyson mobile number 674 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: for when they do make the eight so you can 675 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: bring and give him a bagging. 676 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 4: But that's it's interesting. 677 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 5: I think that might be the worst defensive side in 678 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 5: the top eight at the moment too. They're scoring a 679 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 5: lot of points, but they're conceding a hell of a 680 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 5: lot of points as well. 681 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 4: So who do they have the Queensland Derby? Yeah? 682 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 3: So they've got the Broncos, which can always go either 683 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 3: way no matter where the team's sitting. The Raiders they've 684 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 3: got the buy which is two points in the storm, 685 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 3: and the Bulldogs, like realistically they could lose all four 686 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 3: of those games. 687 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 4: So I think, I think it's a tough drawer, right, 688 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 4: and you're struggling to beat my Tigers, You've. 689 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: Got you've got a Bulldog's Panthers Grand Final. We've got 690 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: the Cowboys slipping from six to out of the eight. 691 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: I like the way the last few weeks is going 692 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: to go up topsy turvy with according to the Tyson 693 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: Jackson System. 694 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 2: Three of three of the last four up in Townsville. 695 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 2: So then might give them a bit of an advantage. 696 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 4: Take that tice, talk to me, fives, that's what we 697 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 4: want here. 698 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 2: Wait, so what's your what's your prediction. 699 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 6: I've got drag I've got the top eight as it is. 700 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 2: As it is, Yeah, I sort of I tend to 701 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 2: agree with. 702 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 4: I think the Dragons are going to sneak in. 703 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 704 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: If they because twenty six points, they're going to win. 705 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: You're going to get three wins out of one to 706 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: three wins out of five, win lost, win, lost win 707 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: or lost win lost win, Oh no, May May We're 708 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: going to be called one short on this. If they 709 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: can't win back to back games again, they're going to 710 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: have to That's a challenge, isn't it. 711 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 4: It has to be. 712 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 3: This week tells you what's gonna happen with the Dragons 713 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 3: and if they can pull it off against the Bulldogs 714 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 3: then in Wooing, I'd probably say that you can almost 715 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 3: lock the Dragons in. 716 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 4: They have a really good record there. But Cogra's it's 717 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 4: only ten minutes away from Belmore. I think they'll be. 718 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: Is it me? 719 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 2: And again, this might be a generational thing, but is 720 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 2: it me? 721 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 5: Or is the the local derby between We can call 722 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 5: it that right because the geographically neighbors between Canterbury and 723 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,719 Speaker 5: the Dragons have sort of overtaken the one that they 724 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 5: have with the Sharks. I know there's it's you know, 725 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 5: that's always been sort of the traditional one, but I 726 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 5: feel like there's always a bit more passional. 727 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 3: Like a generation or the Dragons and the Sharks as 728 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 3: of recent have always been on opposite side of the 729 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 3: there's always a bit more to playful between the Dogs 730 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 3: and the Dragons, I feel. 731 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 4: But now with the Dog's warback. It's great to have derbies. 732 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 6: It's great playing well, that's when derbies matter. 733 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 4: Sellouts. I love sellouts. 734 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, like paramount of playing Penrith this week. It's a 735 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: big game for Penrith. You know if you go, well, 736 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: that's what you say. But I love that kind of beater. 737 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: But I love I love derbies. I think they're great 738 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: in footy. So I look forward to this weekend. But 739 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: I've got to ask you. I want to get your 740 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: thoughts on who is your most improved player this year 741 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: because we're having a chat about this before and there's 742 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: some names on our list, but there's no award for 743 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: this officially anywhere. But we could go and hand out 744 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: some plark to somebody. But the first thing that came 745 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: to my list was Jacob kraz who is I think's 746 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: playing some really mature football at Canterbury. He's been asked 747 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: to play, you know, he goes on the wing, he's 748 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 1: been asked to come into center and each time he's 749 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: done it. You know, I've seen a lot out of him. 750 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: I know he's only a couple of years into his career, 751 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: but really really impressing me. 752 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 3: It's a good it's a good pick. But when you 753 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 3: say most improved, only think of Ja Kraz. I think 754 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 3: Jame Kraz has always been really good. Like he hasn't 755 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 3: really had a rollercoaster reform. He's just playing more consistently 756 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 3: this year. Last year thing he had a couple of 757 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 3: injuries and was in and out of the team. 758 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 5: But we had a he had had a back injury, yeah, 759 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 5: that he had to manage, and there was a bit 760 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 5: of talked that, you know, he might have to say 761 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 5: out in the first couple of rounds of the season, 762 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 5: but he was able to get it good and he's 763 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 5: been amazing since because he's I was having a look 764 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 5: at actually some of his stats and I didn't realize, like, 765 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 5: obviously he's a meter eater, but to average one hundred 766 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 5: and ninety odd meters is that's just ridiculous. 767 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 2: So yeah, it really is. 768 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 1: He's only twenty two. He Dave Bud a couple of 769 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 1: years ago. But he's winning percentage up until this year 770 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: was thirty three percent. Now the Bulldogs this year or 771 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 1: almost sixty percent. So playing what fifty odd games for 772 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: Canterbury in those two years is almost like one hundred 773 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 1: anywhere else Because you're forged in fire and but yeah, 774 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,760 Speaker 1: you're right for him, He's almost doubled his line breaks 775 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: this year. He's improved, he's running meters, he's a good finisher. 776 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: But I think I think his football maturity is really excelling. 777 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: So I just think you know, you're right, Tys. He 778 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: hasn't had a dip to be most improved, but he's 779 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: been coming along and I think this year he's been 780 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: one of the beneficially of what Cameron has come. 781 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 6: To do with that club. The other guy at the 782 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 6: Bulldogs is Reid Marnie. 783 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 5: He's one I would think, like, I know, obviously he's 784 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 5: been there, played some big games and got a lot 785 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 5: of experience at the moment, but he just looks like 786 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 5: a completely different player. 787 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 2: To what he was last year and almost a different 788 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 2: player to what. 789 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 5: He was at the Eels. So you know, I feel 790 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 5: like he's got a more all rounded game. 791 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 4: A different role and he does and it suits him. 792 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 4: Say you say role. 793 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 3: I find it really interesting because I feel that this 794 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 3: year he's picked up more of a leadership wrong without 795 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 3: the captaincy beside him, you see him really trying to 796 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,720 Speaker 3: lead that team up front and trying to make things happen, 797 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 3: even things like as much as I dislike it, but 798 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 3: ripping into players like you know, that gets them up, 799 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 3: that that works for them, and there's teams like that. 800 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 4: So yeah, I tend to agree with you with with Reid. 801 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 3: For me personally, I think Tommy's allowed from Manly has 802 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 3: been probably the most improved player in the competition. You 803 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 3: look at you know, he's he always was that guy. 804 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 3: When he played for the Tigers. You looked at him 805 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 3: and you're like, You've got so much potential, but they're 806 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,240 Speaker 3: just I don't know what a couple of injuries, injuries, 807 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 3: and like even when he wasn't injured, he tend tended 808 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 3: to find himself playing cup a lot there. 809 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 4: But he's been He's been awesome for especially on the wing. 810 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,720 Speaker 3: I think for the Seagulls getting out of trouble, scoring tries, 811 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 3: he's been great. 812 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 4: Also, we can't look past Mitch Barnett. 813 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 3: He's had an amazing year for the Warriors, and I 814 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 3: think his Game three for the Blues was a big 815 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 3: reason why why they did so well as well. 816 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 2: Groups in there. I feel like. 817 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 5: He just I feel like this year at the Seagulls 818 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 5: we've actually kind of seen this potential that everybody spent 819 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 5: the best part of a decade talking about just the 820 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 5: way he runs the football. He's free, So I feel 821 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 5: like he's definitely a more improved player at the Seagulls then. 822 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: But he's in an improved team, isn't he. I saw 823 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: his running game the Tigers. I don't think he was 824 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,479 Speaker 1: the blame for the ills of that club club. 825 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 3: I think the reason why I didn't even think of 826 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:17,959 Speaker 3: Luke Brooks is because I watch him play for many 827 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 3: and I still see the same player. I think the 828 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 3: only difference is no one's talking about him, which for 829 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 3: him I'm so happy for because he got hammered for 830 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 3: no reason at times at the Tigers. So I mean, 831 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 3: I tend to disagree with you're saying most improved because 832 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 3: I think he's still the same player. 833 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 4: It's just the spotlights off him. 834 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 3: I think having someone like DC beside him as has 835 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 3: taken that pressure off him, and he's doing his role. 836 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 3: He's not doing anything spectacular, He's doing what he needs to. 837 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 3: He's running games great, it's helping them, you know, have 838 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 3: some really polished plays. And yes, I don't see him 839 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 3: as the most improved. I see him as just you know, 840 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,399 Speaker 3: the attentions off him. I guess he's flying under the radar. 841 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 6: But you're right, we're seeing a lot more of that, yeah, 842 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 6: in that team, in that better setup. 843 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 4: Yeah. 844 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 5: And not to continue the Tiger's trend, but I feel 845 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 5: like someone like Sean Blow as well. I don't know 846 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 5: if he's being most improved, but he's definitely improved after 847 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 5: going to Melbourne. And it was a bit of a 848 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 5: slow start for him, you know. I don't know whether 849 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 5: it was a fitness thing or just took time to 850 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,399 Speaker 5: learn the Melbourne system. He missed out in the first 851 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 5: couple of games, came back I think was selected in 852 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 5: round three, hasn't looked back since. And again one of 853 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 5: those guys where when he was at Penriss because he 854 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 5: came from pen Rest to the tig from memory, just 855 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 5: another of one bit like Tommy Till out right just 856 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 5: sort of couldn't really kick on when he was at 857 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 5: the Tigers, and now it was just this big destructive 858 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 5: edge forward that we sort of expect him. 859 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 2: He's just reached the potential that we knew that he could. 860 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 3: I remember his debut game against the Eels and he 861 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 3: picked out Nathan Brown, and every time Nathan Brown, ranchorre 862 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 3: Blaw was there, I'm sure and blow Rare Nathan Brown 863 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 3: was there and all Tigers supports. We've got ourselves a 864 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:06,879 Speaker 3: gem here. 865 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 2: And then yeah, like you said, just he's another one 866 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 2: who had injuries. 867 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, he had a couple of injuries, but just tended 868 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 4: to not kick on. 869 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 3: And then we were hearing reports and when he went 870 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,320 Speaker 3: to Storm, he when he went to the Storm, he 871 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 3: was struggling fitness wise and intensity wise for their preseason. 872 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 3: So yeah, again like yeah, I probably do tend to 873 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 3: agree more on blow than books with that because he 874 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 3: has improved. 875 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 6: What about what about Jaden Campbell. 876 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 1: He was identified last year as a potential X factor 877 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 1: for the Eels and I looked at went. 878 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 6: Really is a bit small. 879 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 1: I don't know where it quite where he fits and 880 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 1: injuries and positional switches, et cetera. But I think he's 881 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 1: thriving with the five eighths with number six years on 882 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 1: his back. I like his running game. When we're talking 883 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: about Luke Brooks, I like what he's doing there. I'm 884 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: really enjoying watching his Footye. When I flick on to 885 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 1: see the Times, like, Okay, I want to watch what 886 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:02,879 Speaker 1: Jaden Campbell's doing. 887 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 888 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was one of those ones where for a 889 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 5: long time he was probably a victim of that X 890 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 5: factor tag because it meant that he got shuffled around 891 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:13,320 Speaker 5: a little. 892 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 2: Bit, like is he X fact off the bench? Is 893 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 2: he like a backline impact player? Is he a fullback? 894 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 2: Is he you know, where is his best position? 895 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 5: But I think it's also like what Tyson said about 896 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 5: Brooks and DCE, I think Floren's done also a pretty 897 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 5: good job of being a foil for Jaden Campbell. So 898 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 5: he's taken off a lot of that pressure where the 899 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 5: only thing he has to do is run. And like 900 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 5: you said, in that situation, his smaller size, his agility 901 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 5: when you know sides are fatigued, like we saw, you know, 902 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 5: against the Broncos, he really comes to the foe And 903 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 5: so yeah, absolutely you'd have him in that conversation. It's 904 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,760 Speaker 5: it's just a bit interesting to see is this his position? 905 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 5: And he might be forced into that position just by 906 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 5: the fact of the emergence of Kinney and they've still 907 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 5: got a J. Brimson to come into the side. 908 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 3: So there's that long jam there at the Titans. It's 909 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 3: I mean it's a headache for des, but I mean 910 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 3: it's almost a good headache. I don't see where you 911 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 3: fit Brimson in though now because of how good Campbell's 912 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 3: going in the five eight and then obviously got Kinning 913 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,760 Speaker 3: up the back, he's been a revelation for them. So yeah, again, 914 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 3: he's probably he's always had that skill there. It's not 915 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,879 Speaker 3: like he ever played poorly. But moving into five eighths, 916 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 3: I guess we've seen more of him and we've seen 917 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 3: him play consistently and I guess almost get involved. 918 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,399 Speaker 4: He said he lost tackling as well, which I mean 919 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 4: he's a small guy. 920 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 3: He'd be the first person you want to run at, 921 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 3: so I guess yeah, position wise, it's a big improvement and. 922 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: A couple others off through up this up quick Toll May, 923 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 1: I think it's been vastly. I think he stepped up. 924 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,800 Speaker 1: I think he stepped up big time. So when Lindsay 925 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: Collins went down the other night and to Reell, May 926 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: is the guy that made stack of tackles, Stacker hit ups. 927 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 1: It's been a mainstay in the Danny Crankevich thirteen my 928 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 1: super Coach team this year. 929 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 2: So I think it might be in mine as well. Yeah, 930 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 2: I might have started the season with him. 931 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, I've just I kept ignoring Tommy Sankster's. 932 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: Intimation that I should sell him if I'm just gonna hold, 933 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: just gonna hold, and yeah, proved revelation. 934 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 935 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 5: And speaking of logjams, the rooster sort of when you 936 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 5: look at their forward pack, there is a bit of 937 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 5: a log jam there. So but still like even though 938 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 5: you know, still guys like Lindsay Collins now Spencer Lenni. 939 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,360 Speaker 5: You you know, obviously Jared's moving on, but still that 940 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,800 Speaker 5: log jam of prop forwards in front of him. But 941 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,439 Speaker 5: that hasn't seemed to bother him, and he has taken 942 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 5: his game to another level. It'll be interesting to see 943 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 5: post Jared what that forward pack looks like, whether Terrell's 944 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 5: a starter with a Spencer lenis a starter. But I 945 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 5: think what's really promising about him is it doesn't matter 946 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,919 Speaker 5: whether you start him or whether he's off the bench. 947 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 2: The impact that he plays with has been massive for them. 948 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 6: And what do you make I had to throw this 949 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,839 Speaker 6: guy in Jade and Sewer. I think he's been he's 950 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 6: been really good. 951 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,439 Speaker 3: We's been to play Origin a couple of years ago 952 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 3: and it looked like he was really going to kick 953 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,800 Speaker 3: on and then obviously had I think a bit of 954 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 3: a quiet last year. Came back into the Origin Arena 955 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 3: this year, although didn't hold his spot for Game three. 956 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 3: I think that's almost a fire under him. And we've 957 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 3: seen his best footing after after the Origin series, So yeah, 958 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 3: I think he's definitely improved this year. 959 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, interesting here what our listeners think? So send 960 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 1: him Send me an email, guys, Adam dot Mobs. 961 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 2: This is one of those ones where I feel like 962 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 2: there's going to be some names that we've missed. So 963 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,320 Speaker 2: if anybody's got any ideas, let us know. 964 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 1: Adam dot Mobs at News dot com that au let 965 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: us know, because yeah, I'm sure there's Jacob Little, Tyrone, Wishart. 966 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: There's guys all through here that we could talk about. 967 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,400 Speaker 1: What we needed to move on to. Is for team's 968 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 1: favorite segment? 969 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 4: Is it? Yes? 970 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 2: What are you watching? 971 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 4: Watch? 972 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 1: Well, I'm I'm only watching Olympics at the moment because 973 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,360 Speaker 1: I'm so busy with I love my Olympics. 974 00:44:58,440 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 4: I've just I'm fallen into that. 975 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,320 Speaker 1: But I have been receiving some notes from our listeners 976 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,320 Speaker 1: on disaster movies because you know. 977 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 6: That's kind of been my stick the last few weeks. 978 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,359 Speaker 1: Tim sent me an email and said, if Fatima likes 979 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,760 Speaker 1: True Stories, Pam likes Celine Dion, and I must disaster 980 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 1: movie buff, we should get together to watch Titanic. He said, thanks, 981 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: he loves the podcast. Yeah, I thought that was nice 982 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 1: and tesa listening in from Zurich in Switzerland, he says 983 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 1: The Tearing Inferno is the best disaster movie ever made. 984 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 4: Paul Newman, Steve McQueen need I go on, but I will. 985 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: It's not an over the top stupid movie, but more 986 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 1: a foreshadowing of what could happen to these skyscraper has 987 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,400 Speaker 1: been built in the sixties and seventies. The tension starts 988 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: building early and the time flies by. Yeah, and is 989 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: it like the nineteen seventy four And there's a bloke 990 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 1: on there O J. 991 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 4: Simpson. 992 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 6: So I don't know whether I got it. I got 993 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 6: to admit I haven't seen this. 994 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 1: So I'm going to go and see whether O Jay 995 00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,800 Speaker 1: is as good in this as he was in the 996 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 1: Acred Gun series. 997 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 6: Now, you guys are a bit younger. Did you ever 998 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 6: see nake a Gun? Leslie Nielsen? 999 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:05,360 Speaker 2: I've heard of it. 1000 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 4: But I haven't seen it, watched the first. 1001 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,239 Speaker 6: You watched the first one and you didn't follow it 1002 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 6: up with Naked. 1003 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 4: Gun My Parents. 1004 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard of Paul Newman. I don't think I've 1005 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 2: ever watched a movie. 1006 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 4: I've heard of Paul Newman. 1007 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, other than The Towering Inferno has been 1008 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 2: any Wait, let me rephrase that. What other prominent movies 1009 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 2: should I have watched that he's been? 1010 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 4: He's pretty much just a legend of screen. So we're 1011 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 4: going to go. 1012 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,760 Speaker 2: And doesn't make tomato sauce. 1013 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 4: It's like George Former makes grills. 1014 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 6: Oh my god, move on, I'm out. 1015 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 4: That's it. You've lost me, Okay, I am. 1016 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 5: I'm actually still going through my True crime face so 1017 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 5: I'm up to so I was watching New or Homicide. 1018 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 5: I'm up to Los Angeles Onmicide, which is like the 1019 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:52,879 Speaker 5: second season. 1020 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:53,399 Speaker 4: Of that show. 1021 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 5: I'm also still going through Super Cell as well. So 1022 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 5: I thought, rather than because I'm not watching anything new, 1023 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 5: I will recommend Sweet Tooth, which is I don't know 1024 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 5: whether it's based on a book or not. Sorry, I 1025 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 5: watched things without doing too much research, but. 1026 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 2: Basically it's a world where there are hybrid children, so 1027 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:17,279 Speaker 2: that are part human, part animal, and they're, like I Dotto, 1028 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 2: trying to find some people are trying to find a cure, 1029 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 2: cure for it. But to find a cure, I think 1030 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 2: they have to like exterminate the hybrid children. It's it's interesting, 1031 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 2: it's a bit sci fi. The hybrid's a cure. It's 1032 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 2: a fun, easy watch. 1033 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 4: I'm interested. 1034 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 5: It's one of I think it was the first season 1035 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 5: was one of the most popular shows on Netflix. 1036 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,359 Speaker 3: Well, I guess, continuing on with your mutant type things, 1037 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,360 Speaker 3: I went and watched Wolverine or Deadpool and Wolverine on 1038 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 3: the weekend. I'm not a big superhero guy. I like Batman, 1039 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 3: but that's about it. 1040 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,400 Speaker 4: So yeah, I was. 1041 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 3: I really enjoyed this movie. I thought it was funny, 1042 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 3: good action scenes, huge, Blackman's aussy gem. 1043 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:02,799 Speaker 4: So that was nice. 1044 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,479 Speaker 2: Is it like Deadpool? Be well, very they like you've. 1045 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 4: Seen the first one. 1046 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 2: I think Deadpool you have. 1047 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 4: I think they're like they're like a team is the 1048 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 4: best way to put it. But yeah, watch watch the 1049 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 4: movie for team. 1050 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 5: It's a's two Deadpools, right, is there two? 1051 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 4: This is the third? This is the third, third installment. 1052 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was really funny. I was laughing out 1053 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 3: loud in the cinema, which I'm a bit embarrassing. 1054 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 1: We're laughing when he was making out with the ugly dog. 1055 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 1: It was literally the world ugliest dog starts in this movie. 1056 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 1: There's I've seen a clip it's yeasturb. 1057 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,319 Speaker 4: That was pretty funny. It was good to see. 1058 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 3: The cinema was packed as well, which is always nice, 1059 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,399 Speaker 3: so there was no free seats in there. 1060 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 6: Big bounds back for Marvel, A couple of stinkers. 1061 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,279 Speaker 3: I stopped watching after the most recent Spider Man. I 1062 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 3: think that was my last one, and I was like, yeah, 1063 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 3: I can't watch it. 1064 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,719 Speaker 1: Who do you know a spider manider Man? 1065 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 4: Growing up tom Owen has been pretty. 1066 00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 1: Good since Superman, Okay, Spidery. 1067 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 5: I don't watch too many superhero movies. Is Joker super superhero? 1068 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 4: He's a villain. 1069 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,239 Speaker 6: He's in DC where we're upsetting people for you. 1070 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 5: I feel like I'm going to be judged for this. 1071 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 5: The last the last time I went into a cinema. 1072 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:23,759 Speaker 4: To watch the movie footage of the Dog. Sorry, yeah, 1073 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:24,360 Speaker 4: it was The Joker. 1074 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 2: That was the last movie I watched in the cinema. 1075 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 2: It's been years now. 1076 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 4: The second one is coming out soon. The team will 1077 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 4: be back in the guys. 1078 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 2: I'll give you some homework and from from from the cinema. 1079 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 1: We're going to give you Hoyts vouchers and just going 1080 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 1: to make you sit there and watch some classics. 1081 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 2: So I would to say no. 1082 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 1: We're better push off, but to thank everyone for tuning in, 1083 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 1: because I'm sure there's a thousand Rugby League podcasts around there, 1084 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,799 Speaker 1: so it's nice that you spent some time stopping by 1085 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 1: with us. So again, disaster movies if there's any others 1086 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 1: or any other suggestions for it, but I. 1087 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 2: Didn't say it was like a disaster months. Yeah, well 1088 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 2: to August now, so you still have you got a 1089 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 2: new or the Olympics. 1090 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,360 Speaker 6: The Olympics got in the way, so I'm straight back. 1091 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 4: Into what can be a new c for August. 1092 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,399 Speaker 2: Have you got any ideas. 1093 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,439 Speaker 1: My daughter's getting to the age he's fifteen now, wants 1094 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 1: to start watching some more mature movies, but more mature. 1095 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 6: As in content. So I'm talking and things like that. 1096 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,560 Speaker 6: I'm going to know you're not watching that. 1097 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, just terrible. 1098 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:35,000 Speaker 2: So yeah maybe though, yeah, maybe give her a couple 1099 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:35,319 Speaker 2: of years. 1100 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,080 Speaker 1: No, No, someone will be reporting me to docks from this, 1101 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,440 Speaker 1: so we'll get back to work. Thanks for stopping by, 1102 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thanks for listening. 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