1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: City and with Kate Ritchie podcast What kind of man 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: are you? 3 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 2: Oh God? 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 3: Can I ask in what sense? Well? 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: Within a relationship? And that's what I want to talk 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: about this morning. 7 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 2: Unpack it. 8 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: You know a few ideas around how you take on 9 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: a relationship, because apparently it can be broken into three 10 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: different varieties of men when it comes to dating. This 11 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: is I'm talking about straight men here. 12 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: For Fitzy, I would say, as a lover, you'd be 13 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: a great dad. 14 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 1: I'm not saying love her. 15 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: It's not about. 16 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 3: It's not about that's the first thing that goes to 17 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 3: your mind. 18 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: I mean, look, love, sharing the love is sometimes a 19 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: part of relationship. 20 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: Intimacy as a lover, as a partner. 21 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 3: Can I take this seriously? We've been married fifteen years now, 22 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 3: going to give us seventeen years. One thing that I 23 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 3: have dropped off Katie is that loving. No, I just 24 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 3: don't tell her enough. I say it, I love for 25 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: you to her every morning before I leave to go 26 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 3: to work, what about it night before? No. But I 27 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 3: don't thank her enough for what she does for the family. 28 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 3: Oh No, I don't. 29 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: Well, because you take it for granted. 30 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: She's always done it, and she does it without you know, complaining. 31 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure, but. 32 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: I used to. I used to do it all the time. 33 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 3: And you know what. The other thing as well, I 34 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 3: look at my old man, my old man, as he 35 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 3: got older, he that that sort of dropped off as well. 36 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 3: I don't know, do you know? But then I might 37 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: have to put up a sign around the house. 38 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: But you can't just go I've done, but thank you, no, 39 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: or you should have it now? Why don't you say? 40 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 3: Now, I just want to thank you for everything that 41 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 3: you've done for the family. 42 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 2: That's beautiful. 43 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 3: You know her day, it's Huey's day, it's his birthday. 44 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 3: Happy birthday here it was to Huey. 45 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so ultimately you need to thank her as well. 46 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: I suggest you print up a T shirt like the 47 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: winding one for Wednesday, wonderful Wednesday, win the week. 48 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: Nothing wonderful. I mean it is. 49 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: Wonderful, It is wonderful and just says thanks be Ja 50 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: and on the back as well. So when she's rolling 51 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: her eyes at you walking up the hallway because you 52 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: didn't say thanks, you get you got up. Thank you anyway, 53 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: this is a new study from Canadian scientists. So when 54 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: you're in a relationship with a woman you do fit 55 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: into to one of three. So maybe we can be 56 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: a bit more clear here and you can tell me 57 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: which one you are. He did like in depth interviews 58 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: with about one hundred blokes and how their relationships are 59 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: very very different, because it does it affects men's mental health, 60 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: they're well being depending on how they conduct themselves within 61 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: a relationship. Okay, here are the three. There's the neo traditionalist, 62 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: and they prefer their relationship to follow traditional gender roles 63 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: with them as the provider and protector. So for example, 64 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: they might say, you know, I take care of the bills, 65 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: and she takes care of the household, whether it be 66 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: you know, future kids or the cooking, traditional roles, very 67 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: very old school. Then we will move into the and 68 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if this is how you pronounce it, 69 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: the egg eager littian. 70 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 3: Do you know galitarian. 71 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: It's not egg related, double g. He's not a mayonnaise 72 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: based not eagle eagle gal. 73 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 3: Oh god, I should have read this before. 74 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: Anyway, they are seeking this is good, this is pretty great. 75 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: They are seeking an equal partnership based on measurable give 76 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: and take on so both sides of the relationship are 77 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: essentially doing their bit on the same level. I've discussed 78 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: this with someone last night and they said that that 79 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: is actually impossible, isn't it. 80 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: Can I give you a breakdown for this story so far. 81 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: You're going to serve up three categorized your categories of men, right, 82 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: you serve up three of them. The expectation is to 83 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: be all of them? Oh wow? 84 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: But can you be the last one as well? The 85 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: progressive so they have conversations with their partner and they 86 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: want to build you know, what, what can I bring 87 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: to this relationship? What are you good at? What can 88 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: you bring to this relationship? And that's when it does 89 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: get to the bedroom because apparently the progressive is like 90 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: all about making every element of the relationship. 91 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 2: Because I think now as you know, how busy life is. 92 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: I mean all of us, we all have kids who're 93 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: all in relationships. 94 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 3: Not all of us. 95 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 2: I'm looking at us in. 96 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 3: The room, sorry, but everyone look okay. 97 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 2: And the challenge is making sure we have the time 98 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: to do these things. So I have to schedule in 99 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: at least on our schedule in time to sit down 100 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: and go, okay, well just one on one because we 101 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 2: don't have to get one on one time you put 102 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 2: your wife on, I put her, I diarize her. 103 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: You diarize her to diarize. 104 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 2: Then I look at it and go, Okay, when you've 105 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: done your duties, I'll get you to sit down here 106 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: just for five minutes, and I'll explain a couple of 107 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: basics about life and then you can get back to it. 108 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: Put that broom down, honey, come. 109 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: And come on the couch. I've been the traditionalist, right 110 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 2: and I've kept her safe, put security cameras in and stuff, 111 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: and I've supplied for the family because I've got a 112 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: job and I'm bringing in some bigies. And then right 113 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: she's comfortable, beds are made, she does her duties, and 114 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 2: then we sit down and talk. So I'm ticking off 115 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: all of these so called categories that you're trying to 116 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: put us in. She made you a cup of tea 117 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: in the sand which made me a coffee and a 118 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: sandwich and a sausage roll. But if you want to 119 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 2: go and label us by all means put us in 120 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: a category, But you are because you're reading out the 121 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 2: three types and you're trying to put us. 122 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,119 Speaker 3: In when you put the mouthguard in that you snore 123 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,119 Speaker 3: before you go to Ben. When does that go before 124 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: she off. 125 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 2: To her bedroom? That's love. 126 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,119 Speaker 1: I didn't realize this was going to hit her. Nice, 127 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: so nice. 128 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: If you could just put some basic consideration into it 129 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 2: before you open your mouth. 130 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: I should know my place and not speak until I'm 131 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: spoken to you. 132 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 2: I'd love a coffee, to be honest. 133 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 3: Oh what of absolute pig? Don't talk to my Kate 134 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 3: like that, you rude pig. 135 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: I'm not yours. 136 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 2: Fits are my own person, jeez, sticking up? 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