WEBVTT - Sharri | 18 November 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:10.639 Thank you, good evening, and it's a big show tonight. 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:13.720 The shock news that Alan Jones has been charged with 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:18.600 twenty four offenses after an investigation into alleged indecent assault 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:21.680 and sexual touching spanning two decades. 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:23.480 More details on that in a moment. 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:28.480 Also tonight, how Australians could be jailed for misinformation under 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:33.840 the Albanese governments or Wellian laws. Prominent journalist Michael Schellenberger 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:36.320 is on the show tonight for an exclusive interview. 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:40.520 He says Albanese's laws are the worst in the world. 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:47.280 Plus selfish pro Palestinian protesters want to counsel Christmas for 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:51.760 uzzie kids. Why are police so powerless to stop them? 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:55.000 My thoughts on this in a minute. But before we 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:57.160 get into all of that, let's go to the breaking 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:00.680 news now Here was Alan Jones leaving the police station 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:06.240 after getting bail late this afternoon, charged with twenty four offenses, 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:11.200 including aggravated in decent assault and sexual touching relating to 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:15.480 eight individuals. Jones was surrounded by a pack of media. 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:18.320 He looked shaken and distraught. 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:34.000 Allen, any, now you don't insisted your innocent stairs. 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:30.840 The charge is coming to shock to you. 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:35.240 What about you people are a key point and what have. 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:37.640 I got to say to all of your listeners, the 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:41.440 people that support you anything at all. 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:44.640 This is a major far from grace for the broadcaster 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:47.960 who put the fear of God into politicians on a 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:51.880 daily basis. That shock news of his arrest at home 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:56.360 in Sydney breaking just this morning. Ray Hadley said he 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:59.840 became aware of the allegations in twenty nineteen. 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:04.080 I first became aware of the allegations in twenty nineteen. Obviously, 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:07.400 given there is likely to be a series of charges 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:10.800 laid and announced by a police sometime this morning, and 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:13.959 given there's a search warrant being executed at this moment 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:17.320 inside of premises, that's circular key, you'd understand. I have 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:19.400 to be careful of what I say and what I 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:22.160 do actually know. My main concern at the moment is 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:25.880 for the alleged victims who are obviously seeking justice in 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:27.360 relation to these matters. 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:31.320 Now Jones denies the allegations, and of course he is 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:34.960 innocent until proven guilty. This is now all in the 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:37.760 hands of police and the Cots will come back to 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:41.200 this with a report from Caroline Marcus from the police station. 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:45.320 A bit later, But now the Coalition is warning that 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:50.400 Australians could be jailed under Anthony Albanize's new misinformation laws, 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:54.160 laws that have already passed the House of Representatives and 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:56.200 they're set to go to a vote in the Senate 0:02:56.480 --> 0:03:02.079 next week. These are dangerous Wellian style laws that were 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:05.680 not only curb free speech, but provide the sort of 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:11.840 censorship that's commonplace in totalitarian dictatorships like China and Russia. 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:17.920 We've already seen disturbing censorship of public interest investigations in 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:22.440 the name of misinformation, my COVID origins, reporting the Hunter 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:26.800 Biden laptop story, those who campaigned against the Voice, and 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:29.600 also concerns about COVID era mandates. 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:32.840 And that was all before these laws. 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:38.200 Legal experts and the Coalition are now concerned that individuals 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:43.240 linked to digital platforms like podcasts could be imprisoned for 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:47.680 a year if they don't cooperate with public hearings and 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:50.240 investigations into misinformation. 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:52.640 There are also other penalties. 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:56.440 People could be fined thousands of dollars and tech giants 0:03:56.920 --> 0:04:03.960 millions simply for posting content the government bureaucrats claim is misinformation. 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:08.120 Now the Communications Minister trying to weave away out. 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:10.520 Of this in an interview with Ben Fordham. 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:14.400 Okay, we've heard about potential jail sentences. 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:16.880 Under what circumstances would someone go to jail? 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:21.000 Well, this isn't about individuals going to jail, Ben, That 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:21.839 is just false. 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:23.000 So who would go to jail? 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:27.920 Well, your users aren't going to jail under this. 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:31.680 This is purely goes to the conduct of the platforms 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:33.479 and their systems and processes. 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:36.200 Okay, I understand my listeners won't go to jail. Who 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:37.120 might go to jail? 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:41.080 Well, none of your listeners are going to go to 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:44.960 jail here, Ben, But there is a graduated enforcements enforcement 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.480 scheme that's under the Act that has penalties in it. 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:52.920 A graduated enforcement scheme that has penalties in it. 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:54.159 Well, as you heard. 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:57.640 Ultimately, she couldn't deny the fact that jail was a penalty, 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:01.320 with The Daily Telegraph reporting that the Section two h two, 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:06.560 if someone refuses to appear and misinformation inquiries or refuses 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:10.040 to cooperate without a reasonable excuse, they. 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:12.200 Can be jailed up to a year. 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:17.839 Now, the legislation defines misinformation to mean anything that's reasonably 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:23.680 verifiable as false, misleading, or deceptive. But who decides this, 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:28.799 who's the arbiter of this bureaucrats? One lawyer Justin Quiyle 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:33.080 points out, once they deem something false or misleading, it 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:36.719 opens up a Pandora's box of powers, including the right 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:41.120 to question people in investigations, and if someone doesn't cooperate, 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:48.320 potentially jail them. Well, what's especially terrifying and orwellian is 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:53.960 that the Communications Minister can personally order public show trials herself. 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:58.200 We've already seen the Prime Minister and senior cabinet ministers 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:04.400 throw around accusations of misinformation, often in Parliament. Well, there'd 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:08.000 be nothing stopping the Minister under the law ordering a 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:13.240 public hearing accusing X and Elon Musk of misinformation if 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:17.880 she felt it was running more conservative views or misinformation 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:22.240 during an election period. And here's how the Prime Minister, 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:26.719 Anthony Albanesi, remember has already spoken about Elon Musk. 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:31.400 We'll do what's necessary to take on this arrogant billionaire 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:32.200 who thinks. 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:32.919 He is above the law. 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:39.040 Social media has a social responsibility. If mister Musk doesn't 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:42.360 understand that, that says more about him than it does 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:43.359 about my government. 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:49.440 And now this woken grotesquely out of touch Prime Minister 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:53.880 wants to be able to find people for so called misinformation. 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:58.599 It's an insult to the intelligence of Australians. It's taking 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:03.120 critical thinking out of our hands. And this isn't all 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:06.240 as far fetched as it sounds, because in the UK 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:11.200 we're already seeing innocent people being arrested for what they've 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:12.600 said on social media. 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:13.720 Now. 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:16.559 I've been campaigning on this issue for a long time. 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:19.200 In fact, I was the first journalist to report on 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:23.800 concerns about this misinformation bill. This was before the Coalition 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:27.680 had even decided to oppose the laws, and I encouraged 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:31.280 them to do so publicly in June last year. High 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:35.920 profile journalist Michael Schellenberger has been fighting back against similar 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:41.560 misinformation laws internationally. His advocacy has been incredible and he's 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:45.000 on my show tonight. He says what we're seeing now 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:50.800 in Australia is the worst censorship we've seen anywhere in 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:51.360 the world. 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.440 I think the Albanize government is treating its particular brand 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:58.200 of woke politics as a religion. 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:00.600 Is right. 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:04.280 The Albanese government is doing a lot of damage to 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:07.600 our country. Its lack of action on social cohesion and 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:12.640 antisemitism is right up there. But in terms of legislation, 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:17.520 this is the single most concerning law the government is introducing. 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:23.040 No government of any political persuasion should be the arbiter 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:27.040 of the truth should be given the power to determine 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:32.000 what's factual and what's misinformation. Because free speech is part 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:36.839 of what distinguishes us from dictatorships. We need to fight 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:40.160 for our values and our democracy and stop the Albaneze 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:45.360 government from finding and even maybe jailing people who refuse 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:50.840 to puppet their woke ideology. The pursuit of causes that 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:53.960 may be unfashionable or unpopular at a single point in 0:08:54.000 --> 0:09:02.480 time is fundamental for the growth of Western civilization and 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:04.720 as I said, i'll come back to that with Michael 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.480 Schellenberger a bit later, but I also want to quickly 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:10.840 speak about the pro Hamas activists who are trying to 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:17.599 deprive Australian children of the chance to celebrate Christmas. Christmas 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:22.960 is a magical time for kids all over the world. Joy, sparkle, hope, 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:27.440 and yes presence. Well over the weekend, there were ugly 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:32.920 scenes in Melbourne where pro Palestinian protesters hijacked the opening 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:37.600 day of the Maya Christmas windows, even though the official event. 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:38.720 Had to be canceled. 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:56.800 Do you think there's going to be a day we 0:09:56.840 --> 0:10:00.480 don't have to deal with this every single weekend? And 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:03.760 now the pro Palestinian extremists are saying that children in 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:08.280 Australia can't be happy because children in Gaza are suffering. 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:12.480 Oh my god, my windows unveiling has been canceled. You 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.880 know what else has been canceled tens of thousands of Palestinians. 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:19.240 If you care more about the windows than Palestinian kids, 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:22.079 then that says something about you, not protesters. 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:27.679 Another activist, Sara Saila, said, and I quote, oh you 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:30.800 want to celebrate Christmas but ignore the massacres happening in 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:36.679 the lands where Jesus was from. Well, this demand that 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:40.960 Australian children be deprived of joy because of a war 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:47.240 thousands of kilometers away is disgraceful. As activists Drew Pavlo responded, 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:52.880 they would never ever demand Muslims not observe important religious holidays. 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:57.960 They never demand the Anma suspend eed celebrations over the 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:03.960 imprisonment of one million week Muslims. They only attack Christian 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:11.080 and Jewish religious holidays. If these activists truly cared about 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:16.600 Palestinian children, then on October eighth, twenty twenty three, they 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:20.280 wouldn't have celebrated the massacre in Israel. Instead, they would 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:25.120 have demanded that her must release our innocent hostages. They 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:28.080 would have demanded that her must release the hostages, lay 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:33.000 down arms, and stop attacking Israel. This would have not 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:35.600 only been the right thing to do, but it also 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:38.640 would have avoided further Palestinian suffering. 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:40.080 But they didn't demand this. 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:44.000 In my view, they don't truly care about the Palestinian 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:48.480 cause because they don't say a word when footage emerges 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:54.520 of her Musk mistreatment and torturing of Palestinians, or when 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:58.959 the Channel twelve Israeli journalists went into Gaza and interviewed 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:03.600 dozens of Palacetinians who spoke of how Hermas had ruined 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:07.760 their lives, taken away their sons, and destroyed their families. 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:18.400 Here's that footage. 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:52.680 Login ba has hanahes. 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:47.079 Extraordinary reporting. 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:49.200 Then I had the journalist on my show on Thursday 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:52.719 who went into Gaza and interviewed those Palestinians, but not 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:56.120 a word from any of the pro Palestinian activists about 0:12:56.400 --> 0:13:00.439 Hermas is truly ruining the lives of Palestinians, and it 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:04.120 has been doing so for over four hundred days, well 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:08.920 then actually seventeen years before that too. These activists only 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:14.840 protest because it's against Israel, against Jews, and now they 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:19.439 want to ruin the joy of Christmas for Australian children. Now, 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:23.680 many families have an annual tradition of visiting department stores 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:27.839 to see the beautiful Christmas display in the window. These 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:32.719 are memories they'll have for a lifetime, traditions they'll continue 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:37.680 with their own children and grandchildren. Families catch the train 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:40.520 to go into the city and have a beautiful day out. 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:44.680 But now this was canceled thanks to that angry mob 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:49.640 of Israel haters. Will Ray Hadley performed an epic spray 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:52.800 against Albanezi over all of this on Friday morning. I 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:55.920 was cheering in my car while listening, and here's some 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:59.440 of his strongest comments through the. 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:01.920 Alban I didn't think you'd be as low as the 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:04.199 snake's belly, but I think you're pretty low at the moment. 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:07.480 And Penny Wong's right behind you. He is the worst 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:10.599 Prime minister We've ever had, the worst throw all of 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.600 them in Marc on on Fraser GoF Whitlam, go through 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:15.679 the list whoever you like. He's the worst prime minister 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.760 we have had by this length of the Strait, and. 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:22.800 The Australian public can see very clearly what's happening here, 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:27.000 how a rabbid mob is trying to destroy the joy 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:31.480 of Christmas here in Australia, and how Alban Easy is 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:35.200 too weak to stand up to any of them because 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:39.600 he's putting politics over the right of kids to enjoy 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:46.800 Christmas in peace. Okay, let's bring in now Sky News 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:51.280 contributed Joe hilde Brand and Liberal Senator Holly Hughes. Welcome 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:55.640 to you both, and now Joe. Victorian Premiergistinto Allen was 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:57.600 very strong in her comments about this. 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:01.920 But yet police seemed in the face of these protesters. 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:02.920 Yeah, well, the problem is. 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:05.640 You don't seem to need any permit to protest in Victoria, 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:08.000 even though of course if you're there to protest against 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:12.080 COVID restrictions you get locked up pretty quickly. And the 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:14.440 difference between that and New South Wales where we have 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:18.000 a much more moderate, sensible, right wing labor government as 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:19.840 opposed to the left wing labor government. That's the sort 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:22.560 of empty sort of husk of the legacy of Dan 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:26.560 Andrews in Victoria. For one thing, there's two things here. 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:28.440 I think you can say whatever you want, you can 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:30.680 call it the protesters morons or whatever. But if you 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:36.200 have fostered a culture that basically rewards extreme leftist behavior 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:40.240 and basically sort of you know, politicizes almost the entire state, 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:44.800 which is what's happened under three terms of socialist left 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.720 labor in Victoria, then you are going to get those things. 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.480 I don't see why you can't have a permit system 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:53.240 to protest in Victoria. We have the exact same thing 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:55.240 in New South Wales, and yet still we have these 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:57.320 doesn't interfere with freedom of speech. They still have their 0:15:57.360 --> 0:15:59.760 bloody protests every single week. But when it comes to 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:02.840 things like, you know, protesting, you know, in support of 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:05.400 October seventh, or saying that you know, and this is 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:08.520 these are people who sympathize with the people who launched 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:11.320 the October seven terrorist takes. Yeah, having their protests there, 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:14.040 which would have been right outside the Great Synagogue in Sydney, 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:15.560 for example, meant that police had. 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:17.560 The power to say, oh no, you don't, you have 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:18.560 to move it somewhere else. 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:21.440 I think it's just not good enough, Holly, that these 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:25.600 protesters effectively are bullying everyone and they get away with 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:29.200 ruining what should have been just a simple joy, the 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:32.400 annual tradition that so many families have of going to 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:33.760 see the Christmas displays. 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:37.560 And but it just shows their idiocy watching some of 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:39.320 the tweets you just put up that this is the 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:43.600 land that Jesus was from. Yeah, not absolutely, that is 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:47.920 where Jesus the Jew was from. And so they actually 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:50.280 destroy their own argument. And for any of us that 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:52.960 have been to Israel and know that Bethlehem is actually 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:55.080 run by the Palestinians, I've been to the church, the 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:58.480 Nativity where Jesus was born, what Christmas is all about, 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:01.440 and I actually brought a Bible there and a few 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:05.560 other things and brought them from Palestinians. So these are 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:09.760 people who are completely ignorant to everything about what is 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:13.800 going on. They have no comprehension the fact that so 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:18.280 many Palestinians actually blame Hamas for the troubles and the 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:22.000 hardships that they've endured, the treatment of women, the treatment 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:24.800 of gays, all of those things that Hermas has been 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:29.880 responsible for yet these so called you know, look, they're 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:32.400 just they're morons. And sorry, Joe, I know you said 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:36.440 you can say that they're completely but they are just 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:38.159 they are idiotic. 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:40.080 They are stupid. They don't understand history. 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:43.240 You know, they refer to colonization when you know Alasco 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:45.280 is on the top of Temple Mount. 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:47.679 I'm sorry, you're colonizing. 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:50.200 Somewhere you don't build underneath the temple, like, come on, 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:52.800 and it's the Second Temple. I mean, you know, they 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:55.720 don't understand the basics of the history. They don't understand 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:58.720 the basics of the actual geography of the region. And 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:02.600 to now say, well, you can't celebrate Christmas, well, I 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.280 can tell you whether you celebrate Christmas from a religious 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:08.200 perspective or whether you're more focused on Santa and the 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:11.000 presence under the tree. There aren't many Australian kids who 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:13.639 are going to be thankful to you if those presents 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:15.040 aren't under the tree from Santa. 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:16.639 And you know, maybe this is the hope. 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:19.240 Maybe you know, all those kids that have been indoctrinated 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:22.119 at university, hopefully the kids in the generation after them 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:23.840 are like, well, hang on, you try to ruin Christmas. 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:25.639 We're not going to side with you anymore, and we 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:28.720 might have hope for future generations because it seems like 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:30.040 some of this one is lost. 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:35.000 Also worth noting that the Jerusalem that Jesus was living 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:40.080 under was also colonized by the Romans, and Jesus absolutely refused, 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:43.520 point blank all the exhortations from those around him to 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:47.440 ever use violence as a political solution to that colonization. 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:50.840 So again, you know, I'm pretty well read on old JC. 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:55.000 And for the protest is to invoke his message or 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:58.000 his name in their crazyness, it's great. 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:01.320 That just shows the house you think they are. Yeah, 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:01.920 it really does. 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:06.600 Stupid and selfish and of course just adding to the history, Lisson, well, 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:10.119 Jews were, of course indigenous to the land of Israel 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:12.920 there for more than four thousand years. All right, let's 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:15.399 turn to the Prime Minister now, because now China is 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:18.960 holding Albanesi up as the role model for Western leaders. 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:23.360 This should be an embarrassment, Joe, because you know, we're 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:28.120 seeing that Albanizi potentially struggling to forge ties in Washington, 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:32.000 but yet he's being praised by the communist dictatorship of China. 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:33.760 Yeah, I mean, obviously this is not the sort of 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:37.119 praise that you want to hear. But this is not 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:40.640 of Albanese's doing. This is something that this is something 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:44.359 that China is trying to use to try to paint 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:48.480 Albanesi and the Australian government as something that they are 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:51.760 not in an effort to make other countries fall into 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:53.480 line and behave similarly. And the fact that it is so. 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:57.160 Fall into line and behave similarly, that's exactly the point. 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:04.560 Yes, you're falling forward the Chinese propagandica. This is what 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:06.280 the Chinese are trying to do and the reason they 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:07.880 are doing it, and this is what so many people 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:11.520 are missing, is because they are clearly and genuinely rattled 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:13.840 by the election of Donald Trump, and that is a 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:16.400 good thing. They are desperate and they say, oh my god, 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:19.200 it looks like, you know, America is now this unknown quantity. 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:21.600 We don't know how it's going to behave. And they says, oh, look, 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:25.159 we're going to you know, present this picture of Australia, 0:20:25.240 --> 0:20:28.159 which they know is America's greatest ally in the region, 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:32.199 paint them as being supplicant in the hope that America 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:34.159 will say, oh Australia is doing, will do it too. 0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:38.639 It is hopelessly naive, but and stupid and shamelessly transparent. 0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:42.280 But it does show how worried China is and that is. 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:42.679 A good thing. 0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:45.040 Well, what do you think, Holly, I mean, it's the 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:47.520 worst thing in the world, isn't it getting praise from 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:51.400 dictators when everyone can see that Albanezy government's petrified about 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:52.400 Donald Trump's election. 0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:56.879 It's like paint by numbers, Joe, if they're painting a picture. 0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:59.520 Because let me tell you, when they want to present 0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:03.200 our easy as supplicate, it's because he is, you know, 0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:06.880 the handsome boy. This isn't the first time they've hate 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:09.200 praise on him. And if you spend a minute to 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:12.520 listen to Comrade Albanesi and his colleagues, they will all 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:15.560 tell you how wonderful they have been at their relationship 0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:18.760 with China, which is basically just being will do what 0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:23.399 you want us to do. They are absolutely fawning at China. 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:27.639 We know that it is absolutely frightening for Australians to 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:31.960 think that our Prime minister is more comfortable cozying up 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:36.200 to left wing communist dictatorships than he is with having 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:42.399 relationships with capitalist Western values leaders around the world. And 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:45.000 I wouldn't be saying this is something that should be 0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:48.960 shirked at. And if China is worried, let me tell 0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:51.680 you every Australian elector out there, if they're worried about 0:21:51.680 --> 0:21:54.400 the election of Trump, let's give them Peter Darton as 0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:57.240 well to make sure that they do have a couple 0:21:57.280 --> 0:22:00.960 of strong men, not one strong man and week supplicant 0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:03.360 there standing out for Australia. 0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:06.880 Very good points the fact that Albinize is more comfortable 0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:10.919 criticizing our ally in Israel than he is China. 0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:11.959 Says a lot. 0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:14.480 All right, Holly Hughes, Johuda Brand, great to see both 0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:18.200 of you. Well, let's return to the misinformation laws, which 0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:21.080 have already passed the House of Representatives. They'll go to 0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:23.560 a vote in the Senate next week. No doubt the 0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:26.119 government will be offering the cross bench all sorts of 0:22:26.240 --> 0:22:30.080 deals and sweeteners to try and get their support this week, 0:22:30.480 --> 0:22:32.639 and the Coalition, as I spoke about, has won that 0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:36.159 Australians could even be jailed under these new laws were 0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:40.200 Prominent journalist and author Michael Shellenberger is sounding the alarm. 0:22:40.320 --> 0:22:43.760 He's seriously concerned about these laws and their impact on 0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:49.560 free speech. Here's my exclusive interview with him, Michael Shellenberger, 0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:53.160 thank you so much for your time. The Australian government 0:22:53.320 --> 0:22:57.680 is introducing an o'wellian Misinformation Bill, where individuals could be 0:22:57.760 --> 0:23:01.080 fined thousands of dollars if they don't take down what 0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:03.480 bureaucrats determine is misinformation. 0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:07.080 How dangerous do you think this would be for democracy? 0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:09.399 Well, thanks for asking. 0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:12.159 I mean, I think it's a huge threat to democracy, 0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:15.399 not just in Australia but potentially around the world. The 0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:18.440 authors of the legislation have made clear that they think 0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:22.920 it should apply both internally and externally. We saw the 0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:26.119 e Safety Commissioner earlier this year attempt to ban a 0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:30.159 video from x formerly Twitter, not just in Australia but 0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:30.840 around the world. 0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:33.879 If you don't have free speech, you don't have democracy. 0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:37.400 Democracy depends on people being able to speak their mind, 0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:39.560 and so what's happening in Australia it's really one of 0:23:39.600 --> 0:23:42.520 the worst censorship efforts that we've seen anywhere over the 0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:43.480 last several years. 0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:49.320 In the policy documentation, the Albanezy government accuses Donald Trump, 0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:53.479 the President elect, of being a source of misinformation, claiming 0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:56.720 he told people to ingest Bleach, which he never did, 0:23:57.240 --> 0:23:59.320 but in doing so, this is disinformation. 0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:00.720 It's isn't it? 0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:04.919 And doesn't this pose two problems? First, it's false accusations 0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:07.960 against the incoming president, but also it shows how the 0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:11.879 truth can be so easily distorted and labeled misinformation. 0:24:14.040 --> 0:24:17.040 Well, that's exactly right. The case you're referring to, of course, 0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:20.880 is the Ministry of the Ministry of Communications had falsely 0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:24.159 suggested that Trump suggested that people should drink bleach or 0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:27.720 inject bleach. That's been widely debunked, and yet they're citing 0:24:27.800 --> 0:24:30.720 that as reason why they need these new censorship powers. 0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:33.480 I think it points to something very important here, which 0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:37.720 is that almost always the demands for censorship are of 0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:43.720 accurate information, and almost always they are involved spreading misinformation. 0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:47.200