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Speaker 1: Hi, Russ Jared, Welcome back to the You Project, Champ.

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Speaker 2: Thanks mate, It's been a little bit of time between

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Speaker 2: coffees and drinks for podcasting, but I'm glad to be back.

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Speaker 1: Both literally and metaphorically. When so, we're recording this the

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Speaker 1: twenty fourth of May, the year of no The fourteenth

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Speaker 1: of May. I apologize my eyesight. Shit, I'm not wearing glasses.

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Speaker 1: The fourteenth of May, the year of our Lord. As

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Speaker 1: my mum says, twenty twenty five. How long since you

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Speaker 1: and I have had a face to face coffee. It's

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Speaker 1: a minute. It's been a while.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a while, but.

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Speaker 2: I reckon, we're well overd You put it that way,

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Speaker 2: because we always you know, coffees. Coffees always taste better

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Speaker 2: when you're having it with a good friend and you

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Speaker 2: can talk about all sorts of serious or unseerious stuff

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Speaker 2: or you know, tell a bad joke or do whatever.

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Speaker 2: It's always better in person.

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Speaker 1: It certainly is. And your son and my godson turned

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Speaker 1: twenty five recently, and I don't hear from him that much,

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Speaker 1: let's be honest. And I always hear from him when

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Speaker 1: it's coming up to his birthday. He goes. He sends

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Speaker 1: me a message it's my birthday and Friday. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: so what and you know, like and like you're twenty

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Speaker 1: five bro. Anyway, God bless him. I'm going to catch

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Speaker 1: up with him and give him a little something something

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Speaker 1: in the near future. So, Mitchell, a little fucker. Well

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Speaker 1: done on completing a law degree and being an actual

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Speaker 1: grown up now and you know, coming into the fucking

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Speaker 1: family empire, which is expanding at an exponential rate. But

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Speaker 1: before we talk about I don't know business and life.

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Speaker 1: How have you been, mate? How you we talk about everything?

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Speaker 1: I don't think we ever talk about you. How are

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Speaker 1: you holding up mentally, emotionally, physically, Because I'm busy, but

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Speaker 1: I reckon you make me borderline lazy at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've always been a person that likes to be busy.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the way I function the best. I

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm I'm wasting time if I'm not

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Speaker 2: a little bit too far, but no, Look I'm doing personally,

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Speaker 2: I'm doing well. My focus these days is very much,

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Speaker 2: very simple, and I find that as the business develops,

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Speaker 2: you know, that is certainly one large aspect of my world.

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Speaker 3: But I find myself increasingly thinking.

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Speaker 2: What I tend to think about these days is how

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Speaker 2: am how am I? How am my people going that

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Speaker 2: rely on me? And that's where I get satisfaction and calmness.

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Speaker 2: When people that rely on me are in a good

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Speaker 2: that's probably one of my major responsibilities to make sure

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Speaker 2: that tire as well, and the boys are well, and

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Speaker 2: the people at work for us are all in good place.

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Speaker 2: And then if they're in a good place, I'm in

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Speaker 2: a good place. Because you do have a you know,

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Speaker 2: I feel a burden of responsibility, and that's I think

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Speaker 2: that's normal for anyone that's got employees and staff and

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Speaker 3: You like to make sure they're they're all doing well

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Speaker 1: I wish it was normal. I wish it was normal

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Speaker 1: that bosses cared as much as you. I that, firstly,

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Speaker 1: there are some brilliant, caring, amazing bosses, but I would

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Speaker 1: say you're in the minority, sadly, somebody that actually has

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Speaker 1: the level of empathy and social and emotional awareness that

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Speaker 1: you have, where like, your priority is not that you're

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Speaker 1: make a lot of doe. Your priority is that your

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Speaker 1: to feel safe and seen and valued and confident and competent. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's well well done you. I reckon when I had

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Speaker 1: I tried to be that. But I reckon, you've you've

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Speaker 2: But well, it's it's look, it's honestly, neither was I

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Speaker 2: like you. You remember, mate, when I had Harper's and

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Speaker 2: you and I were partners, I was a very ordinary leader.

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Speaker 2: But looking back, I think I could have done more

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Speaker 3: I'd been a better leader.

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Speaker 2: And so one of the things, one of the commitments

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Speaker 2: And so I work on myself a bit a lot

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Speaker 3: You know self development, reading books, listening to podcasts. Tara.

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Speaker 2: She will deliver home truths and you know, strong conversations

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Speaker 2: when needed. And if she thinks that I'm not, you know,

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Speaker 2: not living those values, You're quickly pulling the line and go,

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Speaker 2: you needed to be a little softer there, you went

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Speaker 2: too hard or you know, you should have addressed that early,

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Speaker 2: or whatever the case may be.

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Speaker 3: So she keeps an eye on me as well.

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Speaker 1: Bull China Shop, Russell Garrett. Yeah, yeah, you do have

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Speaker 1: that me too. It's like both you and I have

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Speaker 1: intense or intimidating. Who the fuck said that, you know?

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Speaker 1: But it is I love that I just wrote down

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Speaker 1: the Room of Mirrors. I think I'm going to call

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Speaker 1: this episode the Room of Mirrors. And and for those

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Speaker 1: people who don't understand that metaphor, that's just something many

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Speaker 1: many odzis use that term. But Russ and I, who

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Speaker 1: have known each other for thirty plus years, it's an

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Speaker 1: which is like, what am I doing well? What am

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Speaker 1: I doing? Shit? What part of the problem am I?

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Speaker 1: What part of the solution am I? And more specific

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Speaker 1: to all my research, what's it like being around me? Like?

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Speaker 1: What is the Russell experience like? For Russell's team, what

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Speaker 1: is Craig's audience? How do they see me? Like? What

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Speaker 1: come across like a try hard? And is there too

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Speaker 1: my I'm always thinking of that because you know, to

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Speaker 1: your gob and what and in your situation, more specifically,

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Speaker 1: what it's like being around you energetically, you know, physically, sociologically.

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Speaker 1: That's like a leadership superpower.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, you do have to have a self

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Speaker 3: Skill that only comes with time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you've known me a long time, and you

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Speaker 2: came across and you used to regularly pull me aside

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Speaker 2: and go Russ.

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Speaker 3: You just got to.

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Speaker 2: Wind it back, mate, like your intentions are good, but

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Speaker 2: I checked myself much earlier these days, and I and

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Speaker 2: a saying I go by, and that is nothing's ever

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Speaker 3: And if you consistently view the world through that lens

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Speaker 3: that's great, but that's that's just that's just.

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Speaker 2: One phone call and there's lots of other phone calls

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Speaker 2: and emails to complete today, so let's keep it, let's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's just so I'm sure most of

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Speaker 1: In fact, I was just rudely looking in my phone.

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Speaker 1: I was listening, but I was trying to find one

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Speaker 1: of our very long standing listeners. Calin Webbin from New

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Speaker 1: Zealand sent me a message the other door sent the

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Speaker 1: group a message to the U Project. If you're not

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Speaker 1: a member of the You Project Facebook, get the fuck

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Speaker 1: in there? Will you our Facebook group? And when's Russell

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Speaker 1: just the quick backstory, So Russell and I and his

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Speaker 1: So we've been in and around each other's lives for

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Speaker 1: happened in the last five years for you. But Russell

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Speaker 1: and Tara's business is called at pilarates So the symbol

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Speaker 1: Because how old are you now?

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Speaker 1: Now? How old is at Pilarates?

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Speaker 3: Well really probably I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe it was anything until twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: Right, So this is what I love. You've now got

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Speaker 1: this business that's proliferating internationally, right, that's growing like a

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Speaker 1: fucking I was going to say a weed a rose garden,

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Speaker 1: and you really like started that at I mean it

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Speaker 1: fifty three, Like this is really encouraging for people that

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Speaker 2: I don't like doing serious conversations over a phone call

437
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Speaker 2: or via zoom.

438
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Speaker 3: I will do them if I have to, but I.

439
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Speaker 2: Much prefer to have a serious conversation with a person.

440
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Speaker 3: In person, you.

441
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Speaker 2: Know, because because I think there's there's value to reading

442
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Speaker 2: body language and looking someone directly in the eye and

443
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Speaker 2: reading reading their body language and how they're reacting to

444
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Speaker 2: what you're saying. Because you've said it yourself, what is

445
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 2: it Craig ninety percent of communication is nonverbal.

446
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Speaker 1: Something like that, or ninety three is the number that

447
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 1: gets wheeled out. But yeah, definitely, what when people are

448
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 1: not talking, they're still telling your stuff.

449
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and so I like, I think I'm much

450
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Speaker 2: better at being self aware.

451
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Speaker 3: And the second thing is.

452
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Speaker 2: Now more than ever, I think you have to be

453
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Speaker 2: very mindful about how you deliver a message or communicate

454
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Speaker 2: with people before you open your mouth, because people are

455
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Speaker 2: a little bit I guess these days people are more

456
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Speaker 2: sensitive there it's easier for them.

457
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Speaker 3: To be upset.

458
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Speaker 2: And I don't know all the reasons for that, but

459
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Speaker 2: I just think back in the day, you know, when

460
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Speaker 2: you and I were working at football clubs, and I

461
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Speaker 2: know that's a male dominated environment where there's big egos

462
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Speaker 2: and lots of confidence. But these days you have to

463
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Speaker 2: be very careful and also very thoughtful about how you

464
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Speaker 2: deliver messages and how you communicate because it's it's hard

465
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Speaker 2: for the message to be received in the right way

466
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Speaker 2: all the time.

467
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Speaker 1: And that's one of the challenges. I agree with you,

468
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Speaker 1: and I think also for the deliverer of the message,

469
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Speaker 1: you me whoever the boss or the leader, or the

470
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Speaker 1: coach or even the coworker doesn't have to be a

471
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Speaker 1: person in leadership, right, but is to realize that your

472
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 1: intention is not the other person's experience, right. You go, ah,

473
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Speaker 1: but I was clear and I didn't raise my voice,

474
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Speaker 1: and da da da. Yeah, But that doesn't mean that

475
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: they're not intimidated. Right, That doesn't mean and I know this,

476
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: like I intimidated and probably still do people without ever

477
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Speaker 1: intending to create that outcome, right, And so you know,

478
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Speaker 1: you you really have to. You know, there's an idea

479
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: I've spoken about it here. I don't know if I've

480
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: mentioned this to you. There's an idea or a concept

481
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Speaker 1: in psychology you called the false consensus effect. You'll love this, Rusty,

482
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: And the false consensus effect just speaks to the fact

483
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: that we humans think that other people think like us, right,

484
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Speaker 1: And so what I'm thinking in my head and my

485
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Speaker 1: intention and what I'm saying, that's going to be what

486
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: you're getting, right, And that's just not true a lot

487
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Speaker 1: of the time, which is where this trying to have it,

488
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Speaker 1: you know. And what we can do is sometimes we

489
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: can look at somebody's response and to us, that response

490
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:40,479
Speaker 1: might be over the top, like disproportionately hysterical, to what

491
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: actually happened, and you're like, come the fuck on, really,

492
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Speaker 1: I mean, do we really need to be up? Like

493
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Speaker 1: that's a nine out of ten response to a one

494
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Speaker 1: out of ten stimulus? Do we need? Right? And as

495
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: you and I, as people who probably don't are not

496
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Speaker 1: triggered that much by that many things, and we're just

497
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: lucky for that. I guess what we're doing is we're

498
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: not understanding that although maybe through our eyes that response

499
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: is disproportionate to what happened, their experience is one hundred

500
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Speaker 1: percent real. So even though you might go, look, this

501
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 1: is really not a traumatic event, but to them, the

502
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Speaker 1: trauma is real. And so it's not about whether or

503
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: not objectively this thing is this or that, but rather

504
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: subjectively they are truly hurt or they are, you know,

505
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Speaker 1: And so that's that whole theory of mind idea of

506
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Speaker 1: trying to look at the thing through someone else's window.

507
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: But for me, like that is something and I know

508
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: you don't know this, probably in the middle of a

509
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: podcast especially, but yeah, that's where you've really evolved because

510
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,479
Speaker 1: you were quite and you're right, you know, you and

511
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Speaker 1: I grew up in a and this doesn't rational eyes

512
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: or justify anything, but it explains it a bit. Where

513
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: you know, when you and I were working in the

514
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: AFL system in the nineties, well fuck your feelings, like

515
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: you're getting paid to do this, and I'm getting paid

516
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Speaker 1: to tell you what to do, and I've got people

517
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Speaker 1: paying me to tell me what to do, and but

518
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Speaker 1: bah bah, you know, and that's that's the But that

519
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: was the model then, that was the model, that was

520
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: the culture, and now thankfully it's evolved, you know, So yeah.

521
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Speaker 3: I agree.

522
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Speaker 2: I think I think, like most things, what the way

523
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Speaker 2: you and I worked in the nineties and the environments

524
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: that we worked in and how we communicated with each

525
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 2: other were certainly not the best way of doing it,

526
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: because we know that there are people that have been

527
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 2: through those environments that have got you know, some some

528
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 2: damage and some real, some real unpleasant memories from working

529
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: in those in those times. Because yes, there were there

530
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 2: were people were communicated with inappropriately and treated inappropriately. I

531
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Speaker 2: just think that we've probably in some situations, we've probably

532
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 2: over compensated for that, and we just need to find

533
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: our balance a little bit where because, as you know, mate,

534
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 2: in life, especially in business, sometimes things don't work out

535
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 2: the plan.

536
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Speaker 5: And when you add financial success or failure into that conversation,

537
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 5: emotions and reactions get very quickly heightened.

538
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Speaker 2: Everything like a navy seal, a navy seal once. I

539
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 2: listened to a navy seal once who said, if you

540
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: want to make anything a fucking mess, just throw water

541
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Speaker 2: on it.

542
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 3: Right, Everything's worse when you put water on it. It's true.

543
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: But in business, every conversation is more stressful and more

544
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 2: heightened when there's a dollar sign attached to it. And

545
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Speaker 2: that's what I've got to be very careful of because

546
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Speaker 2: all I do just about all day now is talk

547
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: to people about money, finance, business.

548
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 3: Memberships, retention.

549
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Speaker 2: You know, it's all about dollars and cents, and I'm

550
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: okay with that, but a lot of people are not

551
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: used to it. It's a very unfamiliar territory for them,

552
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 2: and they get very stressed very quickly. And I've got

553
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Speaker 2: to make sure I realize that someone who's been in

554
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: business for six months they stress and panic a lot

555
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 2: faster than I do when I've been doing it for,

556
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: you know, twenty thirty years.

557
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think you do raise

558
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: a good point, right, and that is that, yes, we

559
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: need to be aware, and we need to be empathetic,

560
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: and we need to try to understand someone else's version

561
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: of right now, you know, so that that kind of

562
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: you know, capacity to be able to look through their

563
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: window for one of a better metaphor. But also, boys

564
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: and girls, life doesn't give a fuck about your feelings.

565
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: Life doesn't care if you're having a good or bad day.

566
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: And so the challenge I reckon is for us to

567
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: be simultaneously, people like you and me who are probably

568
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: old buff eds, to be aware and thoughtful and empathetic,

569
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: but also for all of us to be able to

570
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: go yeah. True, but we also need to be resilient.

571
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: We also need to work on being mentally tough and adaptable.

572
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: And you know, you know, if I said to one

573
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Speaker 1: hundred people in a room, do you want to be

574
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: more resilient? Nobody's going to say no. You know, do

575
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: you want to be able to perform under pressure? Because

576
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: life is pressure, Nobody's going to say no. Everyone. So,

577
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: how you build resilience, How you build a capacity to

578
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,959
Speaker 1: work under pressure, How you build a capacity to thrive

579
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Speaker 1: in the chaos. How you can keep getting up when

580
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: others would just stay down? Right? Well, that's built at

581
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: the cold face of the cold face of the bullshit,

582
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,959
Speaker 1: like you know, and the obviously analogy for you and

583
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: me is resistance training, where you go and literally work

584
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: against physical resistance to create adaptation, which is strength, so

585
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: too mental and emotional like, well, let's go to the

586
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: mental and emotional jim, where we work against resistance and

587
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: we also build strength. So when that hard thing happens,

588
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: when the shit hits the metaphoric fan on planet you,

589
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: which it absolutely will, you don't capitulate because now you're

590
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: a bit stronger, a bit more resilient, a bit more capable,

591
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,959
Speaker 1: a bit more used to pressure, and a bit okay

592
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: with it all right, So I think it's that balance

593
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: between understanding others and being empathetic and aware, but also,

594
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Speaker 1: like I'm more interested in from how do I help

595
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: people point of view, how do I help them build

596
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: resilience because resilience is fucking key, it is.

597
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Speaker 2: And to your point, the best and worst time for

598
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: me in the last thirty years of business was the

599
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 2: COVID lockdown, and that's when I was at my most

600
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 2: ever stressed. I tend to cope with stress reasonably well,

601
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 2: but that was a moment where I definitely had some

602
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: very very stressful times. But at the same time, had

603
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 2: I not gone through that, things happen in my day

604
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 2: now that ten years ago would have stressed me. Now

605
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 2: I just literally laughed them off because it's all relative.

606
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 2: Nothing is as stressful today.

607
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 3: Nothing.

608
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 2: If someone rings me up and says, you know, I

609
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,919
Speaker 2: know we've had ten conversations and I want to open

610
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: a franchise, but we're not going to do it where

611
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 2: we've changed our mind or we're moving away. So that's

612
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: potentially a significant sum of money that has just walked

613
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 2: out of my office.

614
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 3: That doesn't bother me because it's all relative.

615
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, there'll be another lead tomorrow, There'll be another

616
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: franchise e next week.

617
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 3: It's not the end of the world.

618
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Speaker 2: Look at what look at what you have got, Look

619
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: at what the environment you now have compared to what

620
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: it looked like five years ago, and let's keep.

621
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Speaker 3: Things in perspective.

622
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Speaker 2: And I think had I not been through that really horrendous, difficult,

623
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Speaker 2: stressful time, I wouldn't function as well and as calmly

624
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 2: as I do now. I needed to live through that

625
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 2: because I'm a way better operator because of it.

626
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: And that the beautiful analogy. There is the ten kilos

627
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: that used to be heavy. It's still ten kilos, but

628
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: it's not heavy now, it's like and the weight hasn't changed,

629
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: the lifter has changed. So all those you've probably got

630
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: as an objective inbound stimuli. You've probably got more stress

631
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: coming in, but you don't experience it as a person

632
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: being stressed because you're not lifting the ten. You're lifting

633
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: the thirty now. Yep, right, so you've just built this

634
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: strength and this capability. All right, as promised, we've taken

635
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: fucking way too long. I apologize everyone. What I'm going

636
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: to do is this. You won't hear it, but I'm

637
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 1: going to pause the recording temporarily. I'm going to find

638
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: a couple of questions from Carolyn and we'll be back momentarily.

639
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: All Right, we're back. You didn't know we'd even gone.

640
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: Bloody hell. Technology. Fuck, it's fascinating, isn't it? All Right,

641
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: So this is in the New Project podcast facebook page.

642
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: Carolyn says. Caroline says, when we'll Russ Jarrett return? And

643
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: I wrote soon? What do you want us to discuss? Okay,

644
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: here we go one, What a high performance life looks like? Oh?

645
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 1: What a high performance life looks like. All right, well,

646
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: I'll start and then you build on that. So for me,

647
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: for me, a high performance life is just you getting

648
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: the most out of what you've got to work with.

649
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: So I call my mom a high performer because she's

650
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: eighty five and she cooks and cleans and drives r

651
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: On around and looks after ron And so for me,

652
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: high performance is really about your capacity to get close

653
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: to optimizing whatever it is you have to work with.

654
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 1: It ain't about running one hundred meters in ten seconds,

655
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: curing cancer, joining the space program, or you know, winning

656
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: a Grammy award. That in terms of because I try

657
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: to make that idea of high performance relevant to the

658
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: average punter, which is Russ, which is me, which is

659
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: most of you. So the question, Russ, is what a

660
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: high performance life looks like to you? How would you

661
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 1: expand on that?

662
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's two things that come to mind. There.

663
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 2: There's a Japanese philosophy which many people will have heard

664
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: of called kaisan, which is the concept of continuous life

665
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 2: life long improvement. And whilst that might sound a little

666
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: bit you know kumbai yah, I think that's it definitely

667
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 2: has it has relevance for me. So I personally as

668
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: someone who tries to be a high performer. You know,

669
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Speaker 2: one of the things I want to do is make

670
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: sure that even if I write a basic email, even

671
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 2: if I have a conversation with someone about establishing a franchise,

672
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: I want to make sure that that email and that

673
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: conversation is done as well as I can do it.

674
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 2: So I pride myself on trying to continuously improve the

675
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 2: way I communicate, the way I operate, how efficient I

676
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 2: can be in my day. I look at that all

677
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 2: the time and say, if I am, if I've got

678
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 2: someone in my chair and someone's doing my job, what

679
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 2: would I be looking at them to do on a

680
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 2: daily basis to get better and be better? And I

681
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 2: think that's one of the most important elements of high

682
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: performances to constantly go can I improve, you know, in

683
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 2: some way, shape or form. And the other thing that's

684
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: I think really critical is setting high standards for yourself.

685
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,439
Speaker 2: You know, the concept around oh that's you know, close

686
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 2: enough is good enough. I don't like that, and I

687
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 2: think in Australia we do suffer from that mediocrity attitude

688
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 2: a little bit.

689
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 3: I think you should no matter what you do.

690
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 4: Whether you're a professional golfer footballer, or you're a tradee

691
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 4: or you're an electrician or whatever it is, whatever your

692
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 4: career in life is, I think we should all have

693
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 4: an attitude of I want to be really really expert

694
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 4: in this field.

695
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 3: I want to be really good at it.

696
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 1: Love it all, right, talking point. This is not a question,

697
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: just a talking point, So riff on this for I'm

698
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: going to give you two minutes strength training for people

699
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: older than fifty, So strength training for the over fifties.

700
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 2: The things that around that I would say is consistency

701
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 2: beats load. So you know, maybe don't worry too much

702
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: about what you are lifting in comparison to what you

703
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 2: did used to lift, because I certainly don't lift as

704
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: much as I used to, but that doesn't bother me

705
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 2: or stress me anymore. It's about making sure that I

706
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 2: lift regularly. Consistency is key for people over fifty. Also

707
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 2: for people over fifty, making sure that they're doing exercises

708
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 2: that don't leave them with unnecessarily high levels of fatigue

709
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 2: or soreness, or stiffness or lack of mobility. So find

710
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 2: what works for you, and if that means that your

711
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 2: key exercises are probably you know, maybe six or seven.

712
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 3: That's okay.

713
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 2: You don't have to be doing you know, weird and

714
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,479
Speaker 2: wonderful new exercises all the time.

715
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 3: If you know what works for you, stick with it.

716
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: So I know certain exercises hurt my lower back and

717
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: I don't do them as regularly, or I don't just heavy,

718
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: and I know other exercises I can go super heavy

719
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 2: and I get no real joint pain or discomfort from it.

720
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 3: So I know what works for me. For me, I

721
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 3: know how my body works, so.

722
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 2: When I get when you get to that old older

723
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 2: age bracket, train consistently. Find that your best exercises, do

724
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 2: the ones that don't give you unnecessary levels of joint

725
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: pain and stiffness, and stick to that because when you're sore,

726
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 2: you tend not to train as much.

727
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 3: And that's when everything starts to spiral downwards.

728
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Speaker 1: Love it. Also, by the way, everyone, there are no

729
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 1: new movements, just to be clear, Just to be clear,

730
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: so forget YouTube. There are no new movements like anatomically

731
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: there aren't. So there might be new names for old things,

732
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 1: and people think they invented a movement that's never been

733
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: done by a human they haven't. They might be doing

734
00:41:54,680 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: something in a slightly different way, but you know, internal external, otflextion, extension,

735
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: you know, in the different planes of movement. It's been

736
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: around forever. So stick with the basics and make it

737
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: as functional as you can. I'm with Rusty, all right,

738
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: another minute or two. Russell's thoughts on training for longevity.

739
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: I think that question might intersect with the last question somewhat.

740
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Speaker 1: But training for I'm going to say training for longevity,

741
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: and I reckon more importantly health span. So how long

742
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: we are? You know, if you live for ninety but

743
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 1: the last twenty years a dogshit, that's not a great outcome.

744
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: But if you live to ninety and most of those

745
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: ninety years you're pretty functional and operational and good, well,

746
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: that's a great outcome. So let's talk about longevity, but

747
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: perhaps more importantly, health span, living long and strong.

748
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: So if you look at a lot of the research

749
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: that floats around now, and there's a guy that I

750
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: know you look at and listen to, and that's that

751
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 2: doctor out of the US.

752
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: Peter A Tea Tea.

753
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they he talks all the time about

754
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: leg strength being a key indicator and maintaining leg strength

755
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 2: and lack of leg strength being an early indicator for

756
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: all cause morbidity and grip strength, so carrying stuff, holding stuff,

757
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: and keeping your leg strong.

758
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 3: I do.

759
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 2: I do chin ups, as you know, as part of

760
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 2: my Apple body work. I do a lot of I

761
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: still do a lot of leg work, but I often

762
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 2: just hang on the bar for you know, for as

763
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 2: long as I can.

764
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.

765
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 2: I do kettlebell fie farmers, walks and carries and things

766
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: like that. I still I also believe crego that we

767
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 2: should be doing low impact as an older trainer, low

768
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 2: impact but high intensity cardio, so rower, bike, ski, urg

769
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 2: and things. So I don't run very much, but I

770
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: still get my heart rate up. And I still do

771
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: high intensity efforts, but they tend to be more low impact.

772
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 2: You know, I don't do as much. Back in the day,

773
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 2: I used to love doing stair climbs and running upstairs

774
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: and running up hills and things.

775
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:16,479
Speaker 3: I probably don't do that as.

776
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 2: Much now for obvious reasons, but I still like to

777
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 2: get my heart rate up nice and high one hundred psent.

778
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: Love it, agree with it. I'm going to chuck in

779
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,959
Speaker 1: a left field addition to that, my left field edition

780
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: is this which Russ and I never thought about. I

781
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: tell you twenty or thirty years ago, we never thought

782
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: about this. But now we know that socialization has an

783
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: impact on longevity health span. We know that if somebody's

784
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,919
Speaker 1: ticking all the boxes. They eat well, they train well,

785
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: they sleep well, but they're socially isolated, they're lonely, they're disconnected,

786
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: they don't feel loved, valued, scene nurtured, they don't feel

787
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: like they belong, that person will die sooner. So on average,

788
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: if everything else is as I do, so all of

789
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: those things that Russ said, plus so being part of

790
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: something like Russ's being part of whether or not it's

791
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: a part of a couple or a part of a family,

792
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: or a part of a business or a part of

793
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: a social group where people feel like they matter, actually

794
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: has a physiological impact on everything from endocrime system, immune system,

795
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: cognitive function, emotional system, psychology, everything. And so we know

796
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: that the body and the brain and the mind and

797
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: the emotions are all intertwined, and so emotional and psychological

798
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: health or mental health and emotional health have an impact

799
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: on physical health. Ergo, they have an impact on longevity

800
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: and health span. So go and give some old fucker

801
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: a cuddle. There you go, You're welcome.

802
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 3: That's the take home message.

803
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: And if you see me, just come and give me

804
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: a fucking hug because a little bit lonely. All right.

805
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 1: Russ's thoughts on how how should okay so with high

806
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: hypertrophy training? Now, Carolyn's a trainer in New Zealand who's

807
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 1: also a powerlifter, so she's gone from zero, never having

808
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: really trained that way to now. I think she's got

809
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: one or two national records in her weight in her

810
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: age group in the land of the long White Cloud.

811
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: Is that what they call it? Anyway? Shout out to

812
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: our friends over there. So human weight training versus men

813
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: weight training? Any any advice thoughts mister exercise physiologists with

814
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 1: the masters.

815
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 3: On female versus male or hyperchafe?

816
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, hyperchvy dudes girls Prince's question mark.

817
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, So obviously hypertrophy becomes a little bit more of

818
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 2: a challenge as we age, and I would say that

819
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 2: over time the hyperchase if he outcomes start to diminish,

820
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 2: but the strength outcomes can still well and truly be

821
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 2: maintained and even improved. So as as I age, I'm

822
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: not so concerned about adding lean muscle tissue. I'm more

823
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 2: concerned about maintaining what I do have and making sure

824
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: that my nervous system and my neuro muscular system is

825
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 2: still efficient and firing. So I think my general answer

826
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 2: to that is, over time, you should think about adjusting

827
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 2: your goals, but not but not diminishing your goals, just

828
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 2: changing the outcome a little bit. So Mitch my son,

829
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: who's twenty five, he's like I was at twenty five.

830
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 2: He's all about more muscle mass, bigger frame, add leaning

831
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 2: muscle tissue.

832
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 3: You know, he's not so much. He doesn't doesn't care

833
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 3: so much about how he well.

834
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: He does care how he functions, but he cares probably

835
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 2: a tad more about how he looks.

836
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 3: It's an aesthetic.

837
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: No, no, I don't believe that. Fucking hell. Let me

838
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: sit down, all right, That is true. I always when

839
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: I just talk to people about you know, i'd say

840
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: the three things that we kind of care about the most,

841
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: I look, feel, function, how we look, how we feel

842
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: how we function, and the order changes as you get older.

843
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: Like I was when I was twenty five, I couldn't

844
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 1: give a fuck about what worked and didn't work. Prop

845
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: I'm like all about look at me, look at me.

846
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: And then as you get older and shit starts to

847
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: break and you go, oh, blood pressure, what's that? Oh?

848
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: My back? Fucking hell, lumbar? What you know? And then

849
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 1: you when you've been in lots of like with my back.

850
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: I've been a few times in my life, more than

851
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 1: a few times in really acute pain. You couldn't give

852
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: a fuck if you looked like humpty dumpty, as long

853
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: as you had fucking a pain free back, you know

854
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like I didn't care. I just

855
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: oh my god. So all right, let's just ask a

856
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: couple more. What are the top three things you would

857
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: tell a beginner starting resistance training? What are the top

858
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: three things you'd tell a beginner starting resistance training or

859
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: strength training.

860
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 2: Number one, technique trumps everything, So don't worry about how

861
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 2: much you're lifting.

862
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 3: Worry about how you're lifting it. That's that's most important.

863
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 2: Number two is be be open to all forms of

864
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: resistance as a modality. So don't get hung up on

865
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 2: I have to use a bar bell, or I have

866
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 2: to use a dumb belt, or unless I'm using a

867
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: leg press machine, I'm not training. Don't get hung up

868
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: on what type of equipment or what style.

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Speaker 3: You know, German.

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Speaker 2: Volume method is better than don't worry about don't worry

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Speaker 2: about that. Don't get hung up, learn, explore, try stuff,

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Speaker 2: open open your mind. So that's number two, and number

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Speaker 2: three is be patient unless you're going to unless you're

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Speaker 2: going to supplement with other substances that you know people do,

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Speaker 2: but we don't advise. If you're going to do things

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Speaker 2: the natural way, which most people do and should, be

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Speaker 2: patient hyperjury training. Strength training takes a very long time

878
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Speaker 2: in most cases, unless you're you know, genetically predispositioned. But

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Speaker 2: for most people, strength training and adding lean muscle tissue

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Speaker 2: takes time.

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Speaker 3: Be patient.

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Speaker 2: Most people are nowhere near patient enough, and they give

883
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Speaker 2: up just as they're about to tip over the.

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Speaker 3: Cliff a case. I'll give you the example here Mitch,

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Speaker 3: because he carries my genetics.

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Speaker 2: You know, when he was fifteen sixteen, was almost painfully thin,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I said, look, mate, the best thing

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Speaker 2: you can do is start doing some strength training and

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Speaker 2: I'll teach you. So we started doing that seventeen and

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Speaker 2: eighteen he's like, Dad, this is just ridiculous, Like I

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Speaker 2: trained three four times a week, five times a week.

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Speaker 2: Nothing's happening, And I said, there's reasons for that. I

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Speaker 2: go keep training. Your technique's great, you're learning, you know

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Speaker 2: a lot already. I said, it'll come, you know, nineteen

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, And as soon as he got to

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Speaker 2: that age level and his testosterone level started to increase,

897
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Speaker 2: all of those years of grinding and waiting and training

898
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Speaker 2: and being patient, they all came out.

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Speaker 3: And now the kid's got a fair for zecon him.

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Speaker 3: So patients, they're the three. They're the three. He's got

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Speaker 3: to be patient.

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Speaker 1: All right. There's more, but I think we'll leave it there.

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Speaker 1: It's always good to catch up with you, mate. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate you. Congrats to you and Tara and Mitch. Mitch

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Speaker 1: is in the family business of course, and all the

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Speaker 1: people who are doing that. I find it really encouraging.

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Speaker 1: I personally find that encouraging, you know, but I hope

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Speaker 1: our audience find that encouraging. That you can keep learning, growing, evolving,

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Speaker 1: doing good shit start a business in your fifties, you know,

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Speaker 1: as objective as I can be. I was thinking when

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Speaker 1: you were talking before, I was just looking at you

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Speaker 1: and you're fifty seven, and I reckon, this is the

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Speaker 1: best that you've been like as having. I don't know

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Speaker 1: whatever it is, whatever they you know, got your shit together.

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Speaker 1: You like your knowledge, your confidence, your ability to connect,

916
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Speaker 1: articulate things well, think clearly, solve problems, create, build lead.

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to piss in your pocket, but i'd

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Speaker 1: hand on heart mean that. And even when we paused

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Speaker 1: before and I was trying to find Carol, I said

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Speaker 1: to you off air, I said, mate, you're fucking crushing it.

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Speaker 1: And it's true. I'm super proud of you. So well done.

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Speaker 1: Tell people where they can connect and learn more about

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Speaker 1: whatever you know, whether or not that's you on LinkedIn

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00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: or the business or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Yes, thanks mate, I appreciate those words. So yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: on LinkedIn. The website is at Polarti dot Studio at

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Speaker 2: Polartes dot Studio because you can't search with the APT symbol,

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Speaker 2: so it's at Pilartess dot Studio. We've got a Polarates

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Speaker 2: dot two four seven Instagram page. I've got my own

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Speaker 2: Instagram page. So there's many ways you can reach out

931
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Speaker 2: to us. Probably the best thing to do always is

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Speaker 2: go to our website and all avenues of connection and

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Speaker 2: contact from.

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Speaker 1: There perfect I say goodbye Pharaoh as always, but thanks Champ.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy your what is it Wednesday? Enjoy your Wednesday, big boy.

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Speaker 3: Thanks mate,