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Speaker 1: On scoring lives Ostrodia.

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Speaker 2: This is the Wider Panale Show.

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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rida Panahe Show. I'm

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Speaker 3: Caroline Druso, filling in for readA tonight and coming up

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Speaker 3: on the show alarming news from the A and Z

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Speaker 3: Bank as it raises concerns about supply chain vulnerabilities. I'll

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Speaker 3: get Adam Crichton on that shortly. Another blow to Labour's

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Speaker 3: green energy dream with a twelve point five billion dollar

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Speaker 3: hydrogen project acted in central Queensland. We'll speak with Liberal

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Speaker 3: Senator Alex Antick to get his reaction. Plus Senate Republicans

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Speaker 3: vote to advance Trump's big Beautiful bill.

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Speaker 2: Josh Hammer will.

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Speaker 3: Join me from the US with his analysis, and Kinsey

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Speaker 3: Schofield will join us to break down all the big

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Speaker 3: news from Jeff Bezos and Laurence Sanchez's luxury wedding in Venice.

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Speaker 3: But first joining me now is IPA Senior Fellow and

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Speaker 3: chief economist Adam Crichton. Adam, let's start with some pretty

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Speaker 3: alarming news here. The A and zaders raised concerns about

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Speaker 3: supply chain vulnerabilities, saying we can't bank.

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Speaker 2: On food security of all the things. So is this

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Speaker 2: actually a.

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Speaker 3: Problem, and if so, how did we get here and

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Speaker 3: how do we fix it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Well, certainly it might not seem like a problem. This

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Speaker 5: Australia does, I think, export roughly three times as much

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Speaker 5: food as it actually consumes itself.

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Speaker 4: But there are some key.

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Speaker 5: Vulnerabilities that that report rightly pointed out.

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Speaker 4: You know, the big one actually being fuel stocks.

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Speaker 5: We only keep about fixed about fifty six days worth

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Speaker 5: of fuel in Australia. If there was some sort of

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Speaker 5: trade war or or heaven forbid, an actual war, we're

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Speaker 5: supposed to keep ninety days, so that's obviously a big

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Speaker 5: gap there. And critical ingredients to the farming process, such

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Speaker 5: as fertilizer, they come from the Middle East and China.

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Speaker 5: We don't actually make those ourselves. So I think the

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Speaker 5: AZD is right to point these things out. But I

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Speaker 5: must say I was a bit surprised that the an

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Speaker 5: Z was saying this because as far as I understand it,

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Speaker 5: they are big supporters of net zero, and one of

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Speaker 5: the biggest threats to our food security going forward is

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Speaker 5: actually net zero, because that would mean if we're going

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Speaker 5: to achieve our solar and wind targets by twenty fifty

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Speaker 5: some thirty percent of Australian prime agricultural laran would actually

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Speaker 5: be covered in solar panels and wind turbines. So that is,

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Speaker 5: you know, the number one problem I would say for

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Speaker 5: our food security, apart from that.

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Speaker 4: Fuel issue that I just mentioned before.

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Speaker 5: But certainly we have to scrap the net zero fantasy

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Speaker 5: if we do want to maintain our food security and

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Speaker 5: of course also energy security for that matter as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and plenty of the big banks are very much

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Speaker 3: opposed to funding what they fossil fuel related projects, so

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Speaker 3: that there just makes a big issue even bigger than

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Speaker 3: it already is onto the alban Easy labor government, and

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Speaker 3: it's said that a priority for them is big tech

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Speaker 3: paying for news. Now, look, we saw legislation of this

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Speaker 3: nature under the Morrison government. So what's the catalyst for

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Speaker 3: this for labor and how does it differ from what

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Speaker 3: we've seen before.

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Speaker 5: Well, certainly I'm very sympathetic to this legislation. I think

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Speaker 5: those payments from Facebook and Google to Australia's major media

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Speaker 5: companies have been very important in keeping journalists employed. But

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Speaker 5: it's going to be a very very tricky few months,

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Speaker 5: I would say for the Albanese government on this issue.

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Speaker 5: They are supposedly committed to it, but the tech giants

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Speaker 5: themselves obviously hate it. They don't want to pay this money.

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Speaker 5: And we've seen in other countries such as Canada. Actually

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Speaker 5: just a few hours ago, we've seen the government there

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Speaker 5: dump a similar piece of legislation to Australia. It's not

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Speaker 5: exactly the same they called it a digital services tax,

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Speaker 5: but it had largely the same effect. And this is

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Speaker 5: something that Donald Trump himself has been railing against. And

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Speaker 5: so the Canadian government has had to dump it to

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Speaker 5: start their trade negotiation.

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Speaker 4: So who knows what's.

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Speaker 5: Going to happen in the Australian case, but I must

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Speaker 5: say it's probably something the US is going to balk

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Speaker 5: at when we start our trade negotiations with the US

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Speaker 5: as well.

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Speaker 4: So that's just what this watched this space.

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 5: The other issue I think worth mentioning on this is

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Speaker 5: is the Australian publishers have to be careful they wish

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Speaker 5: the government, of course insists on this, it may well

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Speaker 5: be the case that Facebook and Google just decided to

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Speaker 5: block to block Australian news entirely which of course they

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Speaker 5: could technically do.

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Speaker 4: So it's a very fraught area. So you know, I

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Speaker 4: think I think.

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Speaker 5: We're all for good quality journalism, and like I said,

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Speaker 5: I'm very sympathetic to those payments.

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Speaker 4: It's just going to be you know, I.

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Speaker 5: Would say, probably hard to keep them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough, And it will be interesting to see

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Speaker 3: that in those trade negotiations, what makes it through and

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Speaker 3: what goes out in the wash Chalmers and albin Esi,

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Speaker 3: they've already kicked off a conversation about tax reform.

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Speaker 2: More broadly, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 3: They can put that genie back in the bottle, and

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Speaker 3: there's conversations about a number of things, including potential changes

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Speaker 3: to the GST.

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on this.

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Speaker 5: Well, just more broadlyyond tax reform. You think that a

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Speaker 5: second term government would have some idea what it's doing,

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Speaker 5: but they don't really seem to in this regard. They

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Speaker 5: don't seem to have a clear path. I know that

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Speaker 5: there's this so called activity round table coming up. You

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Speaker 5: know we've had you know, we've had dozens of those

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Speaker 5: over the years. Look, the GST has always talked about

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Speaker 5: you know, most economists say we should increase the rate

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Speaker 5: I'm you know, I'm firmly against that, because once you

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Speaker 5: increase the rate of the GST, it just has a

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Speaker 5: tendency to go up and up again.

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Speaker 4: I mean, these these gsts, these.

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Speaker 5: Vats were introduced in Europe in the fifties and sixties,

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Speaker 5: and they started out at low rates, and of course

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Speaker 5: you know now they are at twenty percent in some cases,

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Speaker 5: or even more I think in some countries, and I

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Speaker 5: fear that's what would happen here.

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Speaker 4: They are a very efficient way to raise money GST gsts.

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Speaker 5: They're very sneaky, if you like, because you don't know

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Speaker 5: you're paying tax when you go shopping. Of course you know,

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Speaker 5: you theoretically know you are, but you don't actually feel

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Speaker 5: like you're paying tax. And that's why they are such

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Speaker 5: a clever way to raise money. And I worry about it,

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Speaker 5: you know, as someone who supports a smaller government, I

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Speaker 5: raise money. I mean, I am more partial if they

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Speaker 5: actually change it to broadening the base and not changing

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Speaker 5: the rate, But I would only support that if every

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Speaker 5: single extra dollar was used to cut income tax. And sadly,

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Speaker 5: I don't think that this sort of government would do that.

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Speaker 5: You know, they have a spending problem ultimately, and they

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Speaker 5: need more revenue. That's you know, that's the big problem.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think, as Peter Costello said just recently,

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Speaker 5: we don't really have a taxation problem. We have a

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Speaker 5: spending problem. It's growing far too fast and even faster.

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Speaker 4: Than braphit creep. So they need to get hold of

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Speaker 4: that first.

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Speaker 2: Look.

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Speaker 3: And I have some sympathy for broadening the base run

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Speaker 3: my own business and you know those conversations about what

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Speaker 3: does and doesn't attract GST and whatever. I like the

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Speaker 3: idea of broadening the base from the point that it

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Speaker 3: would simplify it. But your exit point, right, if the

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Speaker 3: money is not going to be spent, well, then you

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Speaker 3: know we need to have another conversation, which is the

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Speaker 3: spending conversation. Now over to the UK and this from

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Speaker 3: the glaston Brief Music Festival over the.

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Speaker 6: Weekend, theft to the id F, to the i F

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Speaker 3: Now UK political commentator Samara Girl I think she summed

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Speaker 3: it up perfectly with this post on X Nothing says

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Speaker 3: revolution like chanting death to the IDF. Between Tofu wraps

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Speaker 3: and mindfulness sessions no, don't jail the Glastow lot.

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Speaker 2: Just swap the.

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Speaker 3: Pyramid stage for Gaza and see how long the moral

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Speaker 3: clarity lasts. Now, the organizers of the festival have condemned

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Speaker 3: the chant, but Adam, it's pretty horrifying. I'm horrified, but

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Speaker 3: not entirely surprised given what we've seen. Do you remember

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Speaker 3: when people at music festivals used to call for peace?

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, certainly.

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Speaker 5: Look, these festivals have just become a forum for you know,

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Speaker 5: whatever the latest elite fat is, and in this case,

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Speaker 5: it's you know, chanting your stupid idiotic slogans like that.

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Speaker 5: You know, I think basically going to reach the point.

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Speaker 5: I know that BBC copped a lot of flak for

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Speaker 5: broadcasting that nonsense. They're going to have to have a

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Speaker 5: ten to fifteen second delay I think on their on

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Speaker 5: their transmission so they can simply block it because that

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Speaker 5: is a form of incitement. Obviously, you know, it has

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Speaker 5: no place at a music festival. It's it's pathetic and

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Speaker 5: Charlie and let's hope we don't see much more of it,

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Speaker 5: but I'm sure, but I'm sure we will.

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Speaker 2: I think we will too. Very unfortunately.

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Speaker 3: Still on the Middle East, conflict in the idea of

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Speaker 4: Deal is this, Well, look, I think a reasonably big deal.

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Speaker 5: I mean the first point I thought here, it's just,

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Speaker 5: you know, the skill of the Israeli defense forces to

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Speaker 5: or in Iran more recently. So you know, full credit

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Speaker 5: to them for doing that. And look, if it brings

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Speaker 5: us closer to peace in the Middle East, that's a

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Speaker 5: good thing.

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Speaker 4: You know. One less terrorist, I think is a very

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Speaker 5: My fear is that they'll just promote someone else into

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Speaker 5: let's hope that it does bring the region to peace.

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Speaker 4: But I am skeptical about that as well.

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Speaker 2: Adam.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, you can always put another person

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Speaker 3: into that position. But I think corporate knowledge is just

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Speaker 3: as important for terrorist organizations as it is for any

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Speaker 2: So let's hope it at the very least slows them

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Speaker 2: down a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Now, on Friday, the sm P five hundred hit a

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Speaker 3: record high. What's driving this and is this sustainable or

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Speaker 3: are we getting towards the top?

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Speaker 5: Well, look, I would say it's not entirely sustainable. You

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Speaker 5: always have to be very wary when the stock markets

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Speaker 5: are at record pigs. I'm old enough to remember back

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Speaker 5: in the early two thousands the dot com boom and

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Speaker 5: then of course the dot com bust where markets fell

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Speaker 5: Financial experts would say that these these levels in the

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Speaker 5: by the so called fang stocks, the tech stocks, you know,

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Speaker 5: So we need to spend a lot more. The IPA

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Speaker 5: and that's what that country needed. I mean, remember, at

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Speaker 4: And you know, we need our own Mille here in Australia.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's definitely a world of warning that maybe a

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Speaker 4: Thanks very much for having me.

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Speaker 3: Joining me now is Liberal Senator Alex Antique. Alex, I

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Speaker 3: Quantus is subjecting us to a more truncated version in

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Speaker 3: recent months. You were one of the early objectives to

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Speaker 7: Haven We Yeah, look, Carolyn, we have, and I mean

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Speaker 1: And I think he's a sick of it, you know.

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Speaker 7: I think whatever the original intent of this was, you know,

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Speaker 7: Now as a way of telling people that they're not

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Speaker 7: So the interest for me now is understanding what it is,

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Speaker 7: it is earlily so that we can call it out.

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Speaker 1: Early and not have to endure years and years of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough, Senator Pauline Hanson, she's also long objected

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Speaker 2: Have Listened.

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Speaker 9: I was disgusted, absolutely disgusted with it because the Liberals,

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Speaker 2: What a load of rubbish that is. Australians.

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Speaker 9: I'll tell you out there, you are the ones. You

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Speaker 9: If you want to put up with this rubbish, this crap, Well,

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Speaker 2: To blame for it, Pauline Shai.

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Speaker 3: As always, I suspect there will be varying views within

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Speaker 2: But what's your view on how the Liberal should approach.

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Speaker 1: But I mean it's up to each individual person.

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Speaker 7: Let's find out how otherwise my preference is to stay

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Speaker 1: And I think that's what we'll see. I think we'll

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Speaker 3: Yeah, O one hundred percent agree with that, and it'll

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Speaker 2: See what that looks like over the course of the term.

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Speaker 3: Now Tony Burke, he appears to be walking both sides

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Speaker 7: the courts do this and the courts do that. The

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Speaker 7: reality is is the government's job, one of its primary jobs,

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Speaker 7: to keep Australian safe in their own country and we

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Speaker 7: expect that out of our Immigration minister. Any finger pointing,

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Speaker 7: any blame is simply not acceptable. So I don't accept

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Speaker 7: that at all. If the Government thinks there's something that

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Speaker 7: should be done, they should be doing it themselves, not

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Speaker 7: blaming the High Court.

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Speaker 3: Now onto the least surprising story of the day, and

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Speaker 3: a twelve point five billion dollar Central Queensline hydrogen project

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Speaker 3: has been acted. The boondoggles abiding the dust pretty hard,

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Speaker 3: aren't they at the moment?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's look, I mean it's it's sort of,

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Speaker 7: as you say, the least surprising thing you could hear,

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Speaker 7: and it's reassuring in one sense, except that you know,

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Speaker 7: we're still, of course through through the political spectrum making

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Speaker 7: the same mistakes every single day with intermittent power, green

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Speaker 7: and you know so called green power, solar and wind.

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Speaker 1: But yes, this is the first one. And of course

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Speaker 1: those of us.

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Speaker 7: That have always said let's let the market decide what's

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Speaker 7: good power and what's bad power just shake our heads

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Speaker 7: at this.

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Speaker 1: This was never going to work.

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Speaker 7: And in fact these things have a habit of these

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Speaker 7: green hydrogen so called green hydrogen propositions seem to get

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Speaker 7: no further past than feasibility studies, and the private sector

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Speaker 7: drops them. So I mean this is the this is

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Speaker 7: the issue with this so called intermittent renewable power is

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Speaker 7: it really doesn't stand on its own two feet without

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Speaker 7: government intervention. Here in South Australia, we've seen at least

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Speaker 7: two projects that have been that have been dropped I think,

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Speaker 7: in recent times, and yet we keep getting told that

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Speaker 7: by the male Ouskislav government here that we're going to

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Speaker 7: be a green energy superpowder. Quite how you export enough

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Speaker 7: through wind and solar is anyone's guest. But putting that

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Speaker 7: little anomaly aside, I think this is where we're going

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Speaker 7: with this. The tragedy of at all, Karen is that

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Speaker 7: before the penny drops that the entire grieb is going

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Speaker 7: to be in a catastrophe. It is not already, and

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Speaker 7: so we're actually learning this liston on the run.

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Speaker 1: And where we shouldn't be.

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Speaker 7: I mean, this is one of the many arguments for

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Speaker 7: why net zero needs to be dropped immediately, and we

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Speaker 7: need to get on with getting the cheapest power we

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Speaker 7: can by any means.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, cheap and reliable.

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Speaker 3: That is absolutely what our country needs for its future prosperity.

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Speaker 3: Thank you as always, Alexantik still it to Kam and

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Speaker 3: Josh Hammer joins me to break down Donald Trump's big

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Speaker 3: beautiful bill. Plus, everyone's favorite left is losing it. Now

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Speaker 3: it's time for lefties losing it. And the lefties in

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Speaker 3: the US are absolutely feral about a recent Supreme Court

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Speaker 3: ruling in the birthright citizenship case. This explicive, ridden red

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Speaker 3: sums up the compassionate left perfectly. Please excuse all the bleeping.

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Speaker 10: All I gotta say is we're so constitution we don't

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Speaker 10: have a constitution anymore. Nope, I mean, what the Supreme

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Speaker 10: Court trump all this States of America seventeen seventy six,

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Speaker 10: fourth of July.

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Speaker 2: Goll of it.

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Speaker 11: Whatever we even fought for all of this.

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Speaker 3: And Marga, what a compelling argument. But at least that

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Speaker 3: lady is just an ordinary citizen. This next video is

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Speaker 3: a Democrat congresswoman who's holding a series of shadow hearings

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Speaker 3: while on the Immigration Subcommittee.

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Speaker 2: Check this out.

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Speaker 12: We have been trying to shine a light on the

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Speaker 12: Immigration Subcommittee. We're in the minority, obviously, so we can't

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Speaker 12: do it for but I've started doing a series of

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Speaker 12: shadow hearings to shine a light on all of the

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Speaker 12: ways that the government is attacking immigrants and the legal

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Speaker 12: immigration system. The first one was on third country deportations.

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Speaker 12: The whole series is called kidnapped and disappeared.

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Speaker 3: What a shocker, But I think a lot of these

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Speaker 3: could be sorted out with better education and information.

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Speaker 2: But the polar opposite of.

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Speaker 13: This, did you know that the term good morning was

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Speaker 13: originated when our ancestors were being held as captives during

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Speaker 13: so called slavery. Slave owners, after spending all night torturing, murdering,

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Speaker 13: and kidnapping their loved ones would greet them at sunrise

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Speaker 13: with did you have a good morning? That was their

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Speaker 13: way of mocking us because they knew that we had

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Speaker 13: just spent all night crying and mourning the loss of

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Speaker 13: our loved ones.

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Speaker 3: And as time goes by and the world becomes increasingly bunkers,

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Speaker 3: I really understand people who choose to homeschool their.

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Speaker 14: Kids so parents can now pull their kids from lessons

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Speaker 14: that have LGBTQ components. All right, you know, as a teacher,

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Speaker 14: I don't give a shit because I'll just give them

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Speaker 14: an assignment that basically covers like America descending into fascism

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Speaker 14: or hypocrisy, and I'll use Trump and the Republicans for that.

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Speaker 14: Like I don't care, I'll go after them anyway. I'll

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Speaker 14: just give them a lesson that hits even harder.

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Speaker 2: But don't worry. There's apparently a coup coming.

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Speaker 8: Our base has a lot of activity.

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Speaker 10: There have been four black Hawk helicopters, several jets, and

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Speaker 10: several sea force full of equipment taking off today.

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Speaker 2: I'm hoping that today is the day.

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Speaker 10: However, it may be tomorrow, but it looks like they're

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Speaker 10: moving very quickly and they're taking this seriously.

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Speaker 8: So be on the lookout.

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Speaker 2: I will update you as soon as I can. Insider said,

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Speaker 2: it is time for us to an issue. Okay, so

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Speaker 2: let's do this, guys, Let's do it.

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Speaker 3: For the love of Baby Jesus send the asteroid. Joining

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Speaker 3: me now is Newsweek saying your editor at large and

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Speaker 3: article three Senior project counts with Josh Hammer Josh Plenty

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Speaker 3: of commentary in theater around the passing of Trump's big

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Speaker 3: beautiful bill in the US Senate.

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Speaker 8: What's the bill about and why all the fuss?

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Speaker 6: Well, this is the one major budget bill that has

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Speaker 6: set to be passed in the US Congress this year,

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Speaker 6: so it's one more complicated than that. It goes back

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Speaker 6: to my nineteen seventy four statute here called the Budget

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Speaker 6: Control Act, which introduced this process that on Capitol Hill

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Speaker 6: they referred to as reconciliation. It's kind of in the

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Speaker 6: weeds parliamentary terms. What it basically means is that you

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Speaker 6: have one shot. You basically have one shot to pass

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Speaker 6: a budgetary fiscal revenue related bill, not necessarily with a

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Speaker 6: sixty vote veto or filibuster proof majority, but where they

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Speaker 6: bear fifty one vote majority, because actually get one bite

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Speaker 6: at the apple to pass a clean fifty one vote

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Speaker 6: bill that happens to be the so called one big

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Speaker 6: beautiful bill. Now, the problem is that because of the

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Speaker 6: arcade nature of this reconciliation procedure, there was an individual

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Speaker 6: called the Senate parliamentarian who who can essentially strip certain

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Speaker 6: parts of the bill to make sure that it accords

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Speaker 6: with the ultimate goal, which is to reduce the budget deficits.

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Speaker 6: That's a very fans way of saying. That's been very

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Speaker 6: contentious because a lot of people are trying to add

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Speaker 6: provisions that are not necessarily going to pass the Senate

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Speaker 6: Parliament Senate parlamentarians, excuse me his or his muster, but

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Speaker 6: this is important President Trump for the following reason, and

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Speaker 6: I'll be brief here, which is that this is Donald

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Speaker 6: Trump's national most popularist sentiment in action. Once upon a time,

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Speaker 6: the Republican Party, when it was ruled by a tea party,

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Speaker 6: more libertarian strength the government, it all costed flavor. This

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Speaker 6: sort of thing would have been anathema. I mean, the

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Speaker 6: party that folks like Mike Lee and Ran Paul came

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Speaker 6: of agent in twenty ten around then was all about

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Speaker 6: trying to kind of get back to the traditional congressional

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Speaker 6: appropriations process. The notion that you would actually just get

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Speaker 6: it all into what Trump calls in one big beautiful

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Speaker 6: bill is actually very different, and that speaks about the

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Speaker 6: national's populist maga dominance of today's Republican Party. So the

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Speaker 6: fact that that it looks like that there are going

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Speaker 6: to be fifty one Republican Senators at least on board

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Speaker 6: to get this thing through, my big takeaway, Caroline, is

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Speaker 6: that this is Donald Trump's Republican Party, period, full stop,

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Speaker 6: end of story.

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Speaker 2: It would be very interesting to say, that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: And speaking of us, the Democrat primary for the New

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Speaker 3: York mayoral candidsy last week, well that had us all enthralled.

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Speaker 3: And look, I understand there's some concern around Mandami's budgetary

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Speaker 3: views and whether that will take New.

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Speaker 2: York back to the bad old days.

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Speaker 3: The front page of the New York Post was in

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Speaker 3: blazon with the headline the price is White.

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Speaker 2: That is quite the headline.

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Speaker 6: What's the concern, Well, the concern is that he's literally

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Speaker 6: talking about punitive taxation on white people, on white people,

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Speaker 6: or essentially anyone on the intersectional identity politics scale of

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Speaker 6: aggrieved interests or victimhoods who do not necessarily meet hishire.

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Speaker 6: I mean, Caroline, this guy is a full fledged democratic

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Speaker 6: socialist at best. Would I would call him a communist frankly,

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Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, I mean, this is someone who

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Speaker 6: says literally every crazy far left left wing platitude imaginable.

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Speaker 6: I mean, if Black Lives Matter has said it, if

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Speaker 6: defund the Police, defund Ice has said it there, if

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Speaker 6: the Hamas crazies post October seven has said it. If

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Speaker 6: they've said it, then this guy believes it. He believes

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Speaker 6: in anything and everything that the furthest left members of

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Speaker 6: the United States Democratic Party believe there. This is someone

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Speaker 6: who was who was who was condemning Israel within minutes

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Speaker 6: of the October seventh Pagram that that slaughter more Jews

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Speaker 6: any than any days in Zadolf Tayler and the Nazis.

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Speaker 6: I mean, this is someone who who literally everything that

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Speaker 6: comes out of his mouth is basically right for a

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Speaker 6: Republican National Committee opposition and research out because you can't,

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Speaker 6: you just can't make this stuff up. I mean, it's

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Speaker 6: almost too good to be true. The think is why

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Speaker 6: a lot of National Republicans are actually wetting their chops

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Speaker 6: in preparation for trying to run against Mam Donnie and

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Speaker 6: trying to project him as the Baseball Democrats come Fall

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty six. The obvious problem is that you live

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Speaker 6: in New York City, you have to suffer under this

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Speaker 6: guy who's likely to become the next mayor. Unless Eric

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Speaker 6: Adams the incoming can pull off a major upset. He's

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Speaker 6: now running as an independent, probably not going to happen.

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Speaker 6: His approval ratings are very very low at the moment.

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Speaker 6: I certainly hope that it does happen there, but I

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Speaker 6: will I guess I would just say this. There's this

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Speaker 6: old quote from a brilliant twentieth century American newspaper columnists

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Speaker 6: and social critic named hl Mankin. Hl Mankin famously said

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Speaker 6: that democracy is the theory that the common man knows

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Speaker 6: what he wants and he deserves to get it good

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Speaker 6: and hard. So part of me, Caroline looks at the

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Speaker 6: plights of New York City under a prospective mayor, Zora Mamdanni,

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Speaker 6: and says, you know what, if this is what the

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Speaker 6: people want, then they're about to get it very good

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Speaker 6: and very hard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's exactly right. You get what you vote for.

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Speaker 3: Couldn't agree more and look at it, and as if

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Speaker 3: then that's not even the end of it. It really

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Speaker 3: has been a very event for waking the US with

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Speaker 3: the US Supreme Court handing down ruling.

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Speaker 2: On birthright citizenship.

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Speaker 3: Can you explain this decision to us and what does

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Speaker 3: that mean for the future of the US immigration policy.

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Speaker 6: Sure, so, this case was litigated as the so called

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Speaker 6: birthright Sitienshove case, but the actual ruling on Friday Caroline

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Speaker 6: did not address the Fourteenth Amendment birthright stationship question. And

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Speaker 6: I know that's going to sounds a little peculiar and

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Speaker 6: odd there, but it's because of the way that this

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Speaker 6: was litigated. So the Trump Department of Justice and these

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Speaker 6: Slster General John Sower tried to make an appeal to

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Speaker 6: the Supreme Court, not necessarily on the underlying substance of

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Speaker 6: question as to whether the Fourteenth Amendment requires that the

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Speaker 6: children of legal aliens be granted US sitizenship. Rather, he

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Speaker 6: was trying to make an appeal to the Justice that

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Speaker 6: the scope of lower court relief should not include the

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Speaker 6: so called and nationwide injunctions that have hamstrung the Trump

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Speaker 6: presidency ever since January there So that was actually all

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Speaker 6: that the Justice ruled on. Now, having said that, with

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Speaker 6: that large caveat. I'm pleased to report that it was

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Speaker 6: a fantastic ruling. It was a fantastic six fee ruling

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Speaker 6: written by Justice Amy Coney, one of the more moderate

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Speaker 6: Republican nominated justice on the Court of Justice, who I

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Speaker 6: was certainly having critical of at times myself. But I

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Speaker 6: was just deeply pleased reading this because Ammy Cone Barra

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Speaker 6: was really bringing the fire there, and she was adamant

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Speaker 6: and insistent that the judicial power of which the United

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Speaker 6: States Constitutions speaks simply cannot countenance these sort of nation

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Speaker 6: wane injunctions by which a rogue lower court district court

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Speaker 6: judge out in Hawaii or Florida or Maine or New Hampshire, whatever,

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Speaker 6: can just bring the entirety of the nation to a

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Speaker 6: halt there. This is completely anathematic to the American constitutional design. Really,

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Speaker 6: the craziest part of this was the fact that it

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Speaker 6: has to be litigated this far at all, and that

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Speaker 6: you had the three liberal justices who nonetheless found themselves

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Speaker 6: in the descent. Katanji Brown Jackson in particular, who was

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Speaker 6: the lead dissenter, was absolutely torn to shreds by Amy

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Speaker 6: Cone Barrett. It was really beautiful victory. I would say

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Speaker 6: for the United States Constitution in our elaborate constitutional structure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very interesting.

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Speaker 3: And look, we have a not dissimilar structure here in Australia.

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Speaker 3: But obviously some of those technical diffaut technical differences really

690
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Speaker 3: do make a substantive difference. Now, some pretty extraordinary scenes

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Speaker 3: in the Middle East this week or in recent weeks,

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Speaker 3: I should say, It's been going on for some time,

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Speaker 3: and obviously the US administration working closely with the Israelis

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Speaker 3: on those Iran strikes. But following that, Trump has slammed

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Speaker 3: Israeli prosecutors of Vernettyaho's corruption trial.

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Speaker 8: Now, what's this all about?

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Speaker 2: And are there any potential impacts?

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Speaker 6: So I was really happy to see Donald Trump do

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Speaker 6: this because I've been saying for years, Caroline, and that

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Speaker 6: the plate of Donald Trump here in the United States

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Speaker 6: when it comes to what I've referred to as the

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Speaker 6: Democrat lawfare complex, Jack Smith and all the various moving

703
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Speaker 6: parts there, Fannie Wills, Alvin Bragg, all the various Democrat

704
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Speaker 6: prosecutors that are trying to throw him in jail on

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Speaker 6: invariably bogus and ridiculous charges. It's actually shockingly similar to

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Speaker 6: being Netta, who have been feazing over in Israel for

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Speaker 6: at least four or five years now. I mean, a

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Speaker 6: lot of these prosecutions go back even further there than

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Speaker 6: they have for Donald Trump here in the United States.

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Speaker 6: And you know, I don't live in Israel, not an

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Speaker 6: expert on each and every case there, but broadly speaking

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Speaker 6: there based on what I reviewed, and this is just

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Speaker 6: extraordinarily silly stuff. I mean, the ntsan Yah who's accept

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Speaker 6: cigars from a donor and that therefore he's the most

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Speaker 6: corrupt person in the world. There, it's patently silly, and

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Speaker 6: it's it's made even more silly by the fact that

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Speaker 6: during the Twelve Day War, the war against Iran that

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Speaker 6: was just extraordinarily successful for both Israel and the United States.

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Speaker 6: There they were literally trying to drag Ntiniaku to depose

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Speaker 6: him during the midst of this conflict. The day after

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Speaker 6: the war ended, if not mistake, and the judge in

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Speaker 6: Tel Aviv put outing Rich to say, Okay, mister Prime Minister,

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Speaker 6: now come back to our court there. It's just totally ridiculous,

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Speaker 6: and it speaks of a far left deep state rot

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Speaker 6: not just the United States, not just in Israel. Frankly,

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Speaker 6: a lot of first Rold democracies face a very similar

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Speaker 6: problem here, where you have a judiciary and a deep

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Speaker 6: state prosecutorial apparatus working hand in love. There So for

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Speaker 6: all those reasons, I was very happy to see Donald

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Speaker 6: Trump speak out in favor of his friend and ally

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Speaker 6: Beeping Natanyahu, because they're actually in a shockingly similar predicaments.

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Speaker 6: The good news is very happy ending for now to

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Speaker 6: the story is that the Court. The Court actually immediately

734
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Speaker 6: moved after Donald Trump posted his second of his two

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Speaker 6: true social posts to try to expedite some sort of

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Speaker 6: rapid swift conclusion to at least one of the corruption trials.

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Speaker 6: So already Trump is getting results.

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Speaker 2: Very interesting observation there.

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Speaker 3: Now, another thing about the US involvement in this conflict

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Speaker 3: in the Middle Ace is the apparently this split amongst

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Speaker 3: conservatives about the extent and for how long.

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Speaker 2: The US is involved.

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Speaker 3: So there was a pace in the Australia media this

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Speaker 3: week titled Trump's base backs his war as long as

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Speaker 3: he keeps the pace?

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Speaker 2: Does this sum up the sentiment?

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Speaker 6: So, Carol, I have to be caned that I fight.

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Speaker 6: This is a very common sentiment. By the way, this

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Speaker 6: is not just Australia and the American media has been

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Speaker 6: reporting much the same thing over and over over and

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Speaker 6: over over again. We hear about this alleged there's a rift,

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Speaker 6: they say in Maga, there's a crushing divide within Maga.

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Speaker 6: I'm not buying yet because the frankly does not necessarily

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Speaker 6: hold it up there. So, for instance, there was a

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Speaker 6: CBS News poll CBS News about his major upholster here

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Speaker 6: in the US. As a guest, there was a CBS

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Speaker 6: News poll maybe about a week ago, just after the

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Speaker 6: Operation mid Night hammer Strikes inside Iran showed that ninety

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Speaker 6: four percent, ninety four percent of self identified mac Republicans

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Speaker 6: support President Trump strikes. Literally only six percent object there. Now,

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Speaker 6: it's very loud six percent, it's very vocal six percent.

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Speaker 6: Tucker Carlson is probably the most prominent member of the

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Speaker 6: six percent there, but it's still, ultimately, at the end

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Speaker 6: of the day, only six percent. And this kind of

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Speaker 6: gets to what I referred to as the Trump doctrine

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Speaker 6: of foreign policy. I think a lot of people here

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Speaker 6: America first, and they immediately think that we're talking here

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Speaker 6: about a hardcore isolationist mentality where America simply does not

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Speaker 6: get involved in foreign affairs, but Anyone who was paying

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Speaker 6: any attention to Donald Trump's first term in office knows

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Speaker 6: that's not his foreign policy there. Donald Trump is still

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Speaker 6: the same guy who took out Kasaim Sulimani, the Iranian

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Speaker 6: arch terrorists in twenty twenty. He took out the founder

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Speaker 6: of ISIS, Abubakar al Baghdadi the year prior. He was

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Speaker 6: very tough on Russia when it comes to missile defense,

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Speaker 6: and on and on we go there. So Donald Trump

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Speaker 6: is non isolation is. He's also not a moralistic George W.

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Speaker 6: Bush era neo conservative. He is a nationalist and a realist,

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Speaker 6: but he's not afraid to strike out in overwhelming powerful

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Speaker 6: fashion to defend the concrete core American national interest with

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Speaker 6: the big caveat that. After that, he wants to get

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Speaker 6: the heck out and not send in the nation building

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Speaker 6: crusades there. That's exactly what happened in Iran. It was

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Speaker 6: a smashing success, and that's why ninety four percent of

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Speaker 6: Magropublicans support it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, excellent, thank you, Thank you for that. Definitely improve

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Speaker 3: my understanding on that point. Now we understand Florida is

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Speaker 3: building a detention center for undocumented migrants.

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Speaker 2: It's been dubbed Alligator Alcatraz.

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Speaker 3: It appears to be working politically very well for DeSantis.

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Speaker 2: There is some blowback.

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Speaker 8: Take a look at this, or have your spiritual places.

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Speaker 1: In your horse to pray for these people who are lost.

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Speaker 9: They can become human beings.

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Speaker 2: Cosewen if they're human beings. Again, stop there's always a protest.

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Speaker 2: But you know this is what this is what people

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Speaker 2: in the US voted for.

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Speaker 3: What is the broader sentiment in Florida around the construction

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Speaker 3: of this detention center.

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Speaker 6: Well, I do live in Florida. I live not too

801
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Speaker 6: terribly far from the Everglades, which is where Alligator Alcatraz

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Speaker 6: is going to be constructed. There. Look, this is this

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Speaker 6: is a brilliant move by our amazing governor. On the

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Speaker 6: sentis our amazing young Attorney General James uth Meyer, who

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Speaker 6: was formerly the governor's chief of staff now he's our

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Speaker 6: attorney general. There they're working hand in glove to get

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Speaker 6: this thing up and running there. They're trying to do

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Speaker 6: a number of things, but the number one thing that

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Speaker 6: the try and do, Caroline, is to establish Florida as

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Speaker 6: the red state that is most willing able and eager

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Speaker 6: to assist President Donald Trump to assist DHS Secretary Christynome

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Speaker 6: to assist our so called borders are Tom Homan, in

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Speaker 6: effectuating what Tom Holman has referred to as the largest

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Speaker 6: mass deportation of ration in the history of the United States. There,

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Speaker 6: once upon a time, Florida was a swing state. This

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Speaker 6: is the state that decided the two thousand presidential election.

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Speaker 6: Once upon a time, Florida was a state actually that

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Speaker 6: although people here didn't want to talk about it, there

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Speaker 6: are a lot of corporations that benefited from illegal alien labor.

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Speaker 6: All of that has changed under Governor Sandis. Governor Santis

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Speaker 6: is many things. He's a brilliant leader, brilliant statesman. He's

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Speaker 6: also very very tough on the illegal immigration issue there

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Speaker 6: and he leads by example, because the sentiment in this

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Speaker 6: state has followed run the Sandis there. Again, this is

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Speaker 6: stated that once upon a time was pretty split down

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Speaker 6: the middle on the illegal immigration issue. But as as

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Speaker 6: the Santis has just led through his rhetoric and his

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Speaker 6: policies and just the way that he says an example there,

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Speaker 6: the people of Florida have followed. But again, I think

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Speaker 6: the goal is really to establish Florida as the nation's

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Speaker 6: leading red state. Dare I say, perhaps even more so

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Speaker 6: than Texas, which once upon a time was the nation's

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Speaker 6: most iconic red state. But regardless of how you split it,

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Speaker 6: whether it's Texas, Florida, Tennessee, Arizona, whatever it is there,

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Speaker 6: this is very healthy red state competition. Basically red states

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Speaker 6: essentially trying to out conservative each other, all trying to

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Speaker 6: kind of win, you know, the ultimate, the ultimate favorable

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Speaker 6: glance of President Donald Trump. It's a very healthy competition.

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Speaker 15: I think.

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Speaker 2: Perfect. Thank you so much for your insights, Josh Hammer,

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Still to come.

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Speaker 3: Lauren Sanchez's Vogue cover turns heads, plus all the big

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Speaker 3: storylines from the Jeff Bezos wedding with Kinsey Schofield next

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Speaker 3: welcome back to the show and joining me now is

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Speaker 3: to Die For podcast host Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey, there has

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Speaker 3: been so much media coverage of the Bezos wedding over

847
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Speaker 3: the weekend, but Katie Courage said Lauren Sanchez's Vogue cover

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Speaker 3: was tacky, harsh or fair.

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Speaker 8: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 15: Look, I when I think of high fashion, Katie Kirk

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Speaker 15: as the last person that comes to mind. I think

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Speaker 15: in this particular instance, she sounds bitter that she wasn't invaded.

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Speaker 15: She would show up to the open of an envelope.

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Speaker 15: He's actually, I'm sure you know this, but Kitty's actually

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Speaker 15: admitted to attending a party held in honor of Prince Andrew,

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Speaker 15: hosted by Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 8: So she will literally show up anywhere.

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Speaker 15: She would sell a kidney to secure the Bezos' first

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Speaker 15: married interview, but knows she's not relevant enough to score,

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Speaker 15: you know, a good gat like that today.

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Speaker 8: So I think she just sounds unhappy. I don't think

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Speaker 8: that was a necessary comment.

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Speaker 2: No, probably not in a necessary comment.

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Speaker 3: And I will say, Kinsey, I was so pleasantly surprised

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Speaker 3: that Laurence boobs were in her dress. Now a query

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Speaker 3: sometimes right, A query sometimes? How much this wedding was

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Speaker 3: a wedding or a big performance? A big it's almost

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Speaker 3: like a business deal. A few people have commented that

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Speaker 3: the couple didn't seem to have much in the way

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Speaker 3: of family there, but it's been reported that Chris Jenna

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Speaker 3: pushed really hard for Chloe Kendall and Kylie to be invited.

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Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, it's a wedding. What's your thoughts?

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Speaker 15: Well, the presence of so many Kardashians guarantees this a

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Speaker 15: big pop culture event. It expanded generations thanks to the

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Speaker 15: younger siblings like Kendall and Kylie. The only wedding that

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Speaker 15: would outdo this guest list is Taylor Swift in Travis

877
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Speaker 15: Kelsey's wedding. But realistically, we understand that the Bezoses were

878
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 15: secretly married in the United States weeks ago, and while

879
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 15: there was a formal ceremony, it was just a big,

880
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 15: expensive excuse to party.

881
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 8: Yeah.

882
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 3: I suppose sometimes a big expensive excuse to party can

883
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 3: be very good fun. But there was some controversy over

884
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 3: Kylie Jenni's choice of frock.

885
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 2: What was the issue here?

886
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 15: Okay, Kylie's dress was technically a pale silver, but let's

887
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 15: be honest, under certain light it looked white.

888
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 8: And wearing white to someone else's wedding that's a big

889
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 8: no no.

890
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 15: It's considered a major faux pas because the white dress

891
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 15: is supposed to be reserved for the bride.

892
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 8: It's her moment, her spotlight.

893
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 15: Fun fact, we can actually thank Queen Victoria for the

894
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 15: white wedding dress trend before her eighteen forty wedding to

895
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 15: Prince Albert. Brides just wore like their nicest dress in

896
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 15: their closet, often something dark or colorful, but Victoria chose

897
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 15: white lace and satin, and it sparked a fashion revolution

898
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 15: that's still going strong today.

899
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's definitely part of wedding etiquette, I suppose,

900
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 3: regardless of who the wedding is.

901
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 2: Moving from Besos to Beyonce.

902
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 3: And check out this footage from her concert in Texas

903
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 3: on Saturday.

904
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 8: To stuff stop stop stop stuff the far nothing, Oh my.

905
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 2: God, Kinsey, what happened here?

906
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 15: Over the weekend, Beyonce's team, Parkwood Entertainment released a statement

907
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 15: addressing this incident, explaining that Saturday Night and huston Texas,

908
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 15: a technical mishap caused her flying car to tilt. She

909
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 15: was quickly lowered and no one was injured. The show

910
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 15: continued without incident. I mean, it was whether you like

911
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 15: Beyonce or not, it was a pretty decent display of

912
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 15: Beyonce's professionalism because she returned to the mean stage and

913
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 15: finished the performance without skipping a bit.

914
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, good on her.

915
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 3: And I suppose the more that these sorts of music

916
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 3: performances become almost acrobatic performances, the more that these sorts

917
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 3: of things can potentially go wrong, but I totally agree

918
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 3: with the top marks for her for you know, getting

919
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 3: back on stage and continuing with the show. Now, the

920
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 3: Beckham family rift, well that's something that's been very well documented.

921
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 3: And we know that Brooklyn missed David's fiftieth birthday, but

922
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 3: apparently he was celebrating his father in law's birthday.

923
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: It doesn't look like things have softened, Kinsey, I.

924
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 15: Know, and this does not look great because David Beckham

925
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 15: has been in the hospital after he underwent a surgery

926
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 15: on hit wrist. So Victoria's posting pictures of David in

927
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 15: the hospital and Brooklyn's posting birthday wishes to his father

928
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 15: in law after ignoring his dad, Brooklyn and Nicola act

929
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 15: like they were raised by wolves and not one of

930
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 15: the most famous power couples in the world. I'm sorry,

931
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 15: but if your dad is David Beckham and your mom

932
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 15: is Posh Spice, maybe show a little gratitude instead of

933
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 15: throwing Braddy shade.

934
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 8: The entitlement is exhausting.

935
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 3: The entitlement is exhausting, and I suppose kinsin you know,

936
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 3: we've seen the kind of parallel with Harry and the

937
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 3: Royal family, but where do you think that this family

938
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: rift will end up going. Do you think it's something

939
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 3: that's going to sort itself out.

940
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 15: I think I do think it's something that will sort

941
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 15: itself out because Nichola's family is likely not going to

942
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 15: continue to bake, to debate roll these people. I mean,

943
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 15: Brooklyn goes on TV in the United States and makes

944
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 15: grilled cheese sandwiches. They realistically have to find careers for themselves.

945
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 15: I don't think nicholas family will continue to be their

946
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 15: piggy bank, and Brooklyn's going to have to go crawling

947
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 15: back to mommy and daddy.

948
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 4: Yeah.

949
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 3: Well, again, the parallels are stark, there, aren't they.

950
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 2: On to Prince Harry, speaking of he made some comments

951
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 2: this way that in twenty eighteen, Megan was the most

952
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 2: troll person in the world.

953
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 15: The digital world was so important to us because my

954
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 15: wife in twenty eighteen was the most true person in

955
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 15: the world.

956
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 4: So there was a lived experience in that.

957
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 3: Now, this conference was meant to focus on the mental

958
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 3: health impacts of social media on children, a very worthy cause,

959
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 3: absolutely no objection from me.

960
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: Couldn't he just have focused.

961
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 8: On the kids right?

962
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 15: Meanwhile, his wife is posting his children on social media,

963
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 15: Like you know, the contradictions continue to astound, but fantasy timeline, Megan's.

964
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 8: Favorability rating was high.

965
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 15: In twenty eighteen, she had a twenty five percent net

966
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 15: favorability rating. In the US, her favorability was even higher

967
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 15: at thirty nine percent.

968
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 8: Today, a majority of.

969
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 15: UK adults sixty five percent, have a negative view of her.

970
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 15: She has relentlessly spent twenty twenty five trying to improve

971
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 15: her public image, but between podcasts Loose Fruit, Spread and

972
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 15: a Netflix series, there's been no significant impact positively on

973
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 15: her standing. So you know, get your dates right, get

974
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 15: your receipts. I think we're dealing with victim fatigue here.

975
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 15: We're so over him trying to convince us that they

976
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 15: are living a hard life from their Montecito mansion.

977
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 3: And I don't think he's helping himself from the point

978
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 3: of view that we all remember the great failure that

979
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 3: was the World Privacy Tour, and now all of a sudden,

980
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 3: Megan is everywhere like pick the pony that you're going

981
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 3: to ride and get on with it.

982
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 2: Does this just, you know, damage the credibility more?

983
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 15: I do think it damages their credibility more because it

984
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 15: completely contradicts what we have seen and what we know

985
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 15: to be true.

986
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 8: But this is just what we've come to expect from them.

987
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 15: I think that there is such an oversaturation right now

988
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 15: that the normal people are tuning them out and that's

989
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 15: not going to be beneficial to Megan's as ever brand.

990
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 8: But she's done it to herself.

991
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 15: One day, she's saying she's going to hit pause so

992
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 15: she can reevaluate the brand. Forty eight hours later, she's

993
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 15: announcing a restock. This yo yo mentality is not a

994
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 15: way to run a business.

995
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 3: No, and the whiplash definitely does not give you your

996
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 3: investors or people wanting to support your business that much

997
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 3: confidence that your full.

998
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 2: Throttle on doing that now.

999
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 3: Back still on the Royal Family, but over in the

1000
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 3: UK and a reception of Buckingham Palace This Way for

1001
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 3: the King's Trust and reality TV star Jamie lang Andy's

1002
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 3: wife Sophie filmed a video appearing appearing to mock Harry

1003
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 3: and Meghan's twerking video.

1004
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 2: They then posted it on social media, Let's.

1005
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 11: Have a look pregnant a way too lung, and it.

1006
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 3: Received this cheeky response from the official Royal Family Instagram account.

1007
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 3: Kinsey obviously a bit cheeky filming in the palace when

1008
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 3: you're not supposed to. But I think most people would

1009
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 3: say the funny side to this, wouldn't they.

1010
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 8: No, I thought it was so cute. I thought it

1011
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 8: was funny.

1012
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 15: It got a lot of great press for the King's Foundation,

1013
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:38,439
Speaker 15: which does incredible work.

1014
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 8: I could just see and.

1015
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 15: I know I'm making this up, but I love to

1016
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 15: imagine Queen Camella behind the keyboard typing the winking emogioing exactly.

1017
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 8: I mean, they've got a social media team.

1018
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 15: A social media team member did that, but it's so

1019
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 15: much more fun to imagine Queen Camella behind the keyboard.

1020
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 3: Having a little giggle to herself as she posted that comment.

1021
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 3: We can only wish that is actually how it happened.

1022
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Kinsey Schofield. That's it from me,

1023
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 3: and up next to his newsnight, Good night,