Speaker 1: Welcome to the Daily Telegraph NRL podcast. Oudam Mob's here
Speaker 1: and Pam Whaley. I'll go to you first, because not
Speaker 1: only was it round twenty one in the NRL, which
Speaker 1: you've just reminded me of nerl W Week one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, we had a couple of upsets as well. Paramatta,
Speaker 2: you'll be very happy to see had a really good win.
Speaker 1: We're back, baby, We're back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was.
Speaker 2: It was great to see it back in back in action.
Speaker 1: And if we're ever invaded, I want the Newcastle Knights
Speaker 1: defending our homeland because their defense against the Roosters the
Speaker 1: other night unbelievable.
Speaker 2: I know. Yeah, that was a really good game. Actually
Speaker 2: it was a great way to open it up. But yeah,
Speaker 2: excited to get into it all again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't wait. And Fatima Kado welcome. Hi, you're Raiders,
Speaker 1: My Raiders back.
Speaker 4: They're back, baby, parent they were never really gone.
Speaker 1: Why right, just let it be known if you started, okay,
Speaker 1: what happens from I can't be held accountable.
Speaker 4: Were the ills in your top eight ladder predictor er
Speaker 4: or w okay, we'll give you that at least in
Speaker 4: the neral W that the title dream is still alive.
Speaker 1: Yea, very much. So you think you can insult me
Speaker 1: after Paramatta fell off the radar about eight weeks so
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen. But we've had a lot to get
Speaker 1: through because there are a lot I don't know about you.
Speaker 1: Whenever someone says mathematically we can make it, you know
Speaker 1: that I think they're stuffed. And from now on I'm
Speaker 1: declaring it. The Broncos cannot make the eight, will not
Speaker 1: make the eight from here.
Speaker 4: Well, if you think about you know, people saying mathematically
Speaker 4: their magic number thirty two, they've got to buy in hand.
Speaker 4: But they also need to win all five games and
Speaker 4: I don't know whether after seeing them against Canterbury, even
Speaker 4: with a full strength team, I don't know whether that's
Speaker 4: you know, whether.
Speaker 3: They're capable of that.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately for the Broncos, who if they don't make it
Speaker 4: will by far be the biggest disappointment of this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not going to make the eight. And the
Speaker 1: Bulldogs blew them off the park. They were unbelievable and
Speaker 1: Brisbane everything to play for and the same criticism that's
Speaker 1: been placed on these guys for the last six or
Speaker 1: eight weeks was they're sitting around waiting for something to happen.
Speaker 1: And Okay, now we've got Adam Reynolds back, we've got
Speaker 1: middles like Pat Carrigan and Payne Hears, and we've got
Speaker 1: this undersized Cannoby pack we're up against. We're just going
Speaker 1: to roll through them. They look like they sat back
Speaker 1: again waiting for something to happen, and they cannot cop
Speaker 1: enough criticism, I think for the lack of resilience, the
Speaker 1: lack of determination to Yeah, as we're seeing. If you're
Speaker 1: not watching us on YouTube, go and have a look
Speaker 1: at some of these highlights where the Broncos are letting
Speaker 1: the ball bounce, they're not first to it. There's no
Speaker 1: urgency in their play. The Bulldogs wanted everything on top
Speaker 1: of them and the Broncos got what they deserved.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, especially after last week. Obviously they've beat Newcastle
Speaker 2: last week and that was kind of the start of
Speaker 2: I think Kevin Walter said in the press conference after that,
Speaker 2: you know, we've only just we haven't kicked that, we
Speaker 2: haven't gone through the fence yet. We're just starting to
Speaker 2: kick it down. But and then to be at home,
Speaker 2: a packed crowd, everything to play for their pride, their season, everything,
Speaker 2: and then they were just flat. And that's just not
Speaker 2: really a good enough explanation, is it, Like, why were
Speaker 2: they flat?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well, maybe make any sense?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I wonder if they've brought
Speaker 4: in too much into this idea that they do have,
Speaker 4: you know, individual brilliance and strike all over the park
Speaker 4: into what mobs you were saying, just waiting for an
Speaker 4: individual to do something, to come up with, you know,
Speaker 4: Reese Walsh, to come up with a play that flips
Speaker 4: the script a little bit, but it never happened, and
Speaker 4: they were flat and they were beaten through the middle.
Speaker 4: And when I found really interesting is a lot of
Speaker 4: people spoke about this after watching Canterbury. Canobary had a
Speaker 4: game plan to shift the ball and really target their edges,
Speaker 4: and it was obvious that that's what they were doing
Speaker 4: from the get go, But somehow the Broncos didn't adjust
Speaker 4: on the run to that, and I think that says
Speaker 4: a lot about and Kevin Waltz has mentioned that a
Speaker 4: little bit in the lack of the inability to execute
Speaker 4: his game plans. So if they haven't been able to
Speaker 4: do it during the week, they were never going to
Speaker 4: be able to adjust on the run against Canterbury. I
Speaker 4: mean Catony Saggs had a dig. He's probably at everybody there.
Speaker 4: You could say, you know, he probably deserves a bit
Speaker 4: of credit from that game. But yeah, they're just and
Speaker 4: I think the biggest they were so good attacking wise
Speaker 4: last year that the fact that they weren't the best
Speaker 4: side defensively really went under the raidar And I think Canterbury,
Speaker 4: who haven't been the best attacking team so far this year,
Speaker 4: really exposed them.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: So there's a lot of work I reckon to go
Speaker 4: at the Broncos and I sort of like touched on
Speaker 4: it in the tackle yesterday. If you look at how
Speaker 4: Penrith responded to losing the twenty twenty Grand Final, it
Speaker 4: wasn't enough for them to just rely on the talent
Speaker 4: they had in their team, and at the time it
Speaker 4: was stacked with you.
Speaker 3: Know, gun talent coming through.
Speaker 4: They doubled down, they worked harder, they were the fittest
Speaker 4: team in the comp. They worked on their defense and
Speaker 4: they went onto three Premierships and it just looks like
Speaker 4: the Broncos haven't been willing to put in that hard
Speaker 4: work this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well for mine, this cannerby performance is textbook Camon
Speaker 1: Serudo identifying and exploiting weaknesses in defenses. He did it
Speaker 1: a lot at Penrith and the players brought into what
Speaker 1: he was doing there. You see here he said that
Speaker 1: those edges that they targeted the entire time, those those
Speaker 1: block runners, and you know they're cutting in. Jacob Karraz.
Speaker 1: What a season he's having and what are really I
Speaker 1: think he's almost one of the he's got to be
Speaker 1: sort of first pick kind of guy. He's so important
Speaker 1: to what they do there and the way he's sprung
Speaker 1: out of the ground because you saw when you know,
Speaker 1: the Bulldogs bought in Bronze and Cherry and they've you know,
Speaker 1: Blake Taff came around kind of tracy and we didn't
Speaker 1: know where everybody was going to sit. You've got young
Speaker 1: Blake Wilson's who's a good young player. And Karraz has
Speaker 1: been named on the wing plenty of times and it's
Speaker 1: which to the centers. But I think he's he's really
Speaker 1: come out of his skin this season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely pressed pressed big time good coaching, isn't it.
Speaker 2: It's just really if they don't have they're not exactly
Speaker 2: a superstar team. Like if you compare them to the Broncos.
Speaker 2: They're not, you know, stacked full of sup stars, but
Speaker 2: they've got so many gutsy players and I think I
Speaker 2: remember at the start of the year, we were talking
Speaker 2: about the size of the Bulldogs pack and who's the
Speaker 2: who's the big leader there in that pack and they're
Speaker 2: probably sure, you know, a big, big prop or and
Speaker 2: speaking to the Bulldogs about that, they were like, well,
Speaker 2: we just have a bunch of players who are real gutsy,
Speaker 2: got a lot of mongrel in us, and we're just
Speaker 2: going to attack as a as a unit. We're smaller,
Speaker 2: we yeah, we're mobile, and that's just going to be
Speaker 2: our identity and that's what they've kind of made.
Speaker 4: Sarah Sarah was on the radio this morning actually, and
Speaker 4: he spoke a little bit about the attacking plan he
Speaker 4: had and he actually gave all the credit to Jason Taylor,
Speaker 4: who's been in addition to his coaching stuff this year,
Speaker 4: and he sort of said he was the one or
Speaker 4: he's the one who's sort of been responsible in putting
Speaker 4: together our attacking plans and sending that message to the
Speaker 4: players every week. So he gave him a lot of
Speaker 4: credit for that. But I think the biggest talking point
Speaker 4: out of that, which we've missed on, is they did
Speaker 4: that without Stephen Crichton. Yeah, and I think that's a
Speaker 4: really important thing to touch on because there's no doubt
Speaker 4: he's been so influential for them this year. He's out,
Speaker 4: Geral Skelton comes in, you know, it's that next man
Speaker 4: up mentality that maybe in the past, because they lacked
Speaker 4: depth in their roster, they haven't been able to achieve.
Speaker 4: And now Stephen Crichton sits out and you can bring
Speaker 4: in someone like Jerras Skelton, who I don't remember what
Speaker 4: he finished with, but I think two hundred plus run meters,
Speaker 4: you know, and again just another guy who shows he
Speaker 4: can be in NURL, but they've got so much depth
Speaker 4: that he's stuck in reserve grade.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And Travis Main had a story up last
Speaker 1: week that the Broncos have had to put on extra
Speaker 1: security and put fences up to stop the fans getting
Speaker 1: getting to them. You might want to put it up
Speaker 1: even higher fences because they deserve to come out after
Speaker 1: that weekend's performance that was terrible.
Speaker 4: Wasn't there a season where fans started chucking wooden spirons? Yeah,
Speaker 4: they might need.
Speaker 1: Some one the Sea Bowl there, Yeah, they have that
Speaker 1: as well. So look top eights, I think if you agree,
Speaker 1: I think seven of the eight teams that are currently
Speaker 1: in the I think the top seven teams will be
Speaker 1: in the top eight this year. I've got obviously the Storm, Panthers, Roosters,
Speaker 1: Sharks are there, Canterbury, North, Queensland, Manly and then for
Speaker 1: mine on twenty four points you have the Dolphins, Raiders, Dragons,
Speaker 1: and then two points behind that you have the Knights
Speaker 1: and then the Warriors. But I can't see the Warriors
Speaker 1: making from there. I've got it in a race. I've
Speaker 1: got four spaces for that one final final spot. What
Speaker 1: do you think?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's that's about right. I don't think
Speaker 4: there'll be too much movement from.
Speaker 3: Six and upwards.
Speaker 4: I think the Dolphins are probably having another late season Bay.
Speaker 4: They really really really should have won against the Titans.
Speaker 1: They should have won a week ago. They should have won.
Speaker 1: They'd be four points clear, they'd be twenty eight points.
Speaker 1: Wayne bennett genius finals campaign before he goes to South
Speaker 1: Paramount might have dodged a bullet here with Bennett. They
Speaker 1: can't finish a season.
Speaker 3: They can't finish a season.
Speaker 1: Get this what's going on?
Speaker 3: So yeah, I tend to agree with that.
Speaker 4: But unsurprisingly when I did my that a predictor, the
Speaker 4: eighth spot went to Canberra for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Pam, and I've got equal yeah, the.
Speaker 2: Same team here, the Nights in eighth. Yeah, I've got
Speaker 2: the Dragons finishing on thirty two points in ninth and
Speaker 2: then the Warriors tenth, Broncos eleventh and the other Dolphins
Speaker 2: dropping out. They've got they do have a rough end
Speaker 2: to the year.
Speaker 1: I like the Dolphins me too.
Speaker 2: Me too, But yeah, just over the weekend they should
Speaker 2: have closed this game out against the Titans. The Titans
Speaker 2: really yeah, just kept fighting for it, didn't they? They
Speaker 2: just wanted it.
Speaker 1: A little bit of the team that usually gives up
Speaker 1: leads the Gold Coast and they keep fighting and des
Speaker 1: Hasler all the critics this season. This is a big win.
Speaker 1: But where was this side? That was? This saw was
Speaker 1: eight nil up over many last week, then capitulated the
Speaker 1: fourteen kneel down here and fought their way back. How
Speaker 1: are you supposed to win a tipping company? Seriously?
Speaker 2: I know, well I don't think any of us are?
Speaker 2: Are we not?
Speaker 3: This year?
Speaker 2: Not this year.
Speaker 1: No, they had everything to play for here the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: this is their finals hopes on the long lay said,
Speaker 1: they've got a tough run home going from here. And
Speaker 1: in that slew of teams a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: they was sort of fifth and sixth, and all they
Speaker 1: need to do was just get a couple of wins
Speaker 1: up to get to your thirty two points. I haven't
Speaker 1: got them there. They were one of my big disappointments
Speaker 1: from the weekend. Then I thought Kronella were disappointing. I
Speaker 1: think their edge defense was pretty ordinary and they got
Speaker 1: shown up again. You know, even the return of Niko
Speaker 1: Hines isn't going to fix that.
Speaker 2: How do you have them finishing I.
Speaker 1: Still had them finishing fourth.
Speaker 2: I don't see their fifth for mine.
Speaker 1: I don't know how I was trying to manipulate a
Speaker 1: way I was doing that. Ladder predicted to try and
Speaker 1: get either the Bulldogs or Cowboys up into that top four,
Speaker 1: because I love that stat of the team that finishes
Speaker 1: outside the year before finishes in the top four that
Speaker 1: next season. But owing to their cruisy drawing the way
Speaker 1: home and the points have already got banked. But then again,
Speaker 1: if they don't start lifting their game. The Sharks, they
Speaker 1: may struggle, Yeah, well struggle definitely struggle in the finals.
Speaker 3: Yeah they will.
Speaker 4: I mean they've won one game since round fourteen.
Speaker 3: I think it is so.
Speaker 4: No sorry, two games since round fourteen, so they're definitely
Speaker 4: not in form at the moment. Obviously, the work that
Speaker 4: they did at the start of the year has helped
Speaker 4: them stay, you know, in the top four, but you know,
Speaker 4: they do have a softish run home, other than their
Speaker 4: last round game against the Eagles, who are also finding
Speaker 4: a bit of form. So I worry if the ty
Speaker 4: sorry that the Sharks, it's just a bit of a
Speaker 4: groundhog day for them coming into the finals, a bit
Speaker 4: too soft and not really being able to test themselves
Speaker 4: against the two best teams in the competition and Penrith
Speaker 4: and the Storm, which I think, even though we're talking
Speaker 4: about how tight the latter is, I really don't think
Speaker 4: outside of those two there are any genuine title contenders
Speaker 4: at the moment.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I think Nathan Clear is returned. I don't
Speaker 1: think Penrith rest players towards the end of the season.
Speaker 1: I think they've rested them post origin. I think Nathan
Speaker 1: coming back from mine I think they go through the
Speaker 1: way they are and they just keep winning games. And
Speaker 1: Cleary was outstanding the Melbourne Storm. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: was watching this through biased eyes against the Eels the
Speaker 1: other night when they Paramattic gifted them a couple of tries.
Speaker 1: They didn't have the possession or the field position, they
Speaker 1: weren't tackled inside the Eels twenty and let's yet somehow
Speaker 1: they led in that first half. Monster being back, he'll
Speaker 1: get better. I just for the better performance for me
Speaker 1: at the weekend was Panthers. And if I was a
Speaker 1: betting man, I couldn't have enough on Penrith winning that
Speaker 1: fourth title because obviously I think you're going to top
Speaker 1: two finish for the Storm home final, won't have to
Speaker 1: travel to Sydney if you keep winning until Grand Final.
Speaker 1: So owing to that saloon passage that they'ven't themselves, they
Speaker 1: can be there. But yeah, still haven't been proven that
Speaker 1: anyone can live up to Penrith's expectations at the moment.
Speaker 3: No, well they did.
Speaker 4: James Sushi Harris did pick up a groyd maybe an
Speaker 4: abductor injury in that game, so it'd be interesting to
Speaker 4: see how serious that is obviously they did it again
Speaker 4: without Dylan Edwards is still out with a PCL injury.
Speaker 4: But yeah, they just look right now, they just look
Speaker 4: streaks ahead of anybody else.
Speaker 2: I'm never going to count out in Melbourne though. I
Speaker 2: just think that that's a folly to do that.
Speaker 1: I'm just angry after they beat Paramatta the other night,
Speaker 1: they're going.
Speaker 2: To bounce ye angry at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's all their fault. But but yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: you saw the week before what they did the Roosters
Speaker 1: as well, you know, and these are these are supposed
Speaker 1: to be the contenders, so you know, the Storm just
Speaker 1: keep doing what they do. They keep winning. But I
Speaker 1: just I just want them to prove that they can
Speaker 1: do that against that they've got that. I want to
Speaker 1: say they've got that next level to go to, which
Speaker 1: Penrith seemed to me lo there they really do have
Speaker 1: their So.
Speaker 2: They just look like they have so much fun, don't they. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: what is just it really is just fun for them.
Speaker 1: I want you to tell me which games your Raiders
Speaker 1: are winning. Getting the top eight, let's get through them
Speaker 1: Billmore Sports Ground Bulldogs next week, you've got them winning that.
Speaker 2: Okay, we don't.
Speaker 1: Have to laugh, like that home game against mainly the
Speaker 1: week after I.
Speaker 3: Think I got there. I think them losing that one.
Speaker 1: Mainly don't travel well. But okay, right Country Bank Stadium
Speaker 1: care always run twenty four?
Speaker 3: Sorry, can we go back?
Speaker 4: I had them winning against Manley and then newsing to
Speaker 4: the Cows at home right in North que.
Speaker 1: So you've obviously got them beating the Panthers the following
Speaker 1: week at Joe. I don't have you got them beating
Speaker 1: the Roosters the following week. You've got them beating the Roosters.
Speaker 3: We've got to win some games actually.
Speaker 1: And last round Dragons Raiders, that's huge, that could that
Speaker 1: could be a top eight side, that could.
Speaker 3: Be the top eight decider. But I've got them winning
Speaker 3: that well.
Speaker 1: I had It's and Georgia Lawara in around the eight.
Speaker 1: If their performance at the weekend was better. What do
Speaker 1: you make of the Dragons? I mean, if they finished ninth,
Speaker 1: which is kind of what I've gone mad, I think
Speaker 1: that's that's a past mark.
Speaker 3: But at ninth as well.
Speaker 1: Actually this closest Dragons fans having had a really bad
Speaker 1: run for the last few years. What do you where
Speaker 1: do you put your finger on it?
Speaker 2: I think that is. I think Dragons fans would be
Speaker 2: fairly happy with the improvement that they've seen this year.
Speaker 2: Would you would you agree? You do know what Dragons
Speaker 2: fans are like, right, No, I think that I think
Speaker 2: there is there's signs of that those days are kind
Speaker 2: of over and that there is a new kind of
Speaker 2: eerror under Shane Flanagan. Obviously the weekend was not great,
Speaker 2: but I mean it's Penrith too. I think they will
Speaker 2: have a dig in these last in these last couple
Speaker 2: of rounds. I've got them winning a couple of games.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Obviously Shane Flanagan made that big call to
Speaker 1: act Tyrle or Sloan he I'm not happy with his
Speaker 1: defense and again there's probably a few that could have
Speaker 1: joined him on from this weekend. And you know they
Speaker 1: have mixed their former bit this year, the Dragons with them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they can lose a big buy a big score, then
Speaker 1: they can grind out a solid win the week after.
Speaker 1: So you know, Flanno has got that ability to get
Speaker 1: their minds back on the job. But I don't know
Speaker 1: where they go from here. Because I thought Ben Hunt
Speaker 1: had a had a poor game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, he did have a poor game, and
Speaker 4: that was probably I mean, I was gonna say that
Speaker 4: was the difference, it isn't. I don't think even if
Speaker 4: Ben Hunt had a blinder, and I'm not sure if
Speaker 4: that would have been enough to help them get past Penrith.
Speaker 4: But I think when he's a little bit off, I mean,
Speaker 4: Zachlmacs was a little bit quiet after I think he
Speaker 4: moved to fullback.
Speaker 3: Early in the game.
Speaker 4: So yeah, they're a bit of that that Jekyll and
Speaker 4: High team where sometimes they look really good and you
Speaker 4: look at them and you go, wow, like Shane Flangan's
Speaker 4: working miracles there, because you have to remember, I mean,
Speaker 4: I think it was it was a Mick Caranas he
Speaker 4: said they went into the season with the worst roster
Speaker 4: in the competition. I'm not gonna say that the worst
Speaker 4: rusted in the competition.
Speaker 1: But on paper he said. Agree with him. I just
Speaker 1: this is just what he said.
Speaker 4: So when you look at their team, I mean, you
Speaker 4: probably think they do need a couple of additions for
Speaker 4: next year to help them go to that next level.
Speaker 4: But to go from you know, deep in the bottom
Speaker 4: half of the ladder to in and around that finals conversation,
Speaker 4: I think that's a huge improvement for them.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Mick carrianas adding players for next year, that's
Speaker 1: a nice segue mix story from the Weekend that vow
Speaker 1: Holmes has been granted permission to explore other opportunities He's
Speaker 1: got twelve months ago when his Cowboys deal with worth
Speaker 1: about nine hundred massive coin the dragons in the frame
Speaker 1: for him, thoughts, is this a like a.
Speaker 3: Zach Climax replacement thinking type? I don't know, would so
Speaker 3: how much?
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess it depends on how much you
Speaker 4: know the Cowboys are footing the bill and how long
Speaker 4: the deal is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I think they do have a.
Speaker 4: Couple of good outside backs, you know, waiting in the
Speaker 4: lower grades, and then the junior reps coming through. I
Speaker 4: wonder if you add someone like vow Homes, I know
Speaker 4: he's you know, probably towards the latter years of his career.
Speaker 3: I don't know whether.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I would sort of bea backing the
Speaker 4: future as opposed to you know, somebody like our Homes.
Speaker 4: But obviously Shane Flanagan and Our Homes have history together
Speaker 4: from their time at the Sharks, so I have no
Speaker 4: doubt he will do whatever job is required of him
Speaker 4: under Flannagan.
Speaker 1: But you know what do you think?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think he's sorry.
Speaker 4: No, I was just going to say, when you've got
Speaker 4: kids like Sevilla Tomali waiting to come through, you thinkaders bound. Well,
Speaker 4: everyone keeps saying, but you know, it's interesting. They've got
Speaker 4: a good crop of outside back so it's just interesting
Speaker 4: that they would recruit on top of them with somebody
Speaker 4: like our Homes.
Speaker 2: I was just going to say, he hasn't He obviously
Speaker 2: hasn't had the best season. I don't think this year.
Speaker 2: In the last couple of years, he's been a bit
Speaker 2: up and down, but on his day he's very good.
Speaker 2: So if if Onno thinks he can get the best
Speaker 2: out of him in the last couple of seasons, it'd
Speaker 2: be nice to see him playing his best again. Maybe
Speaker 2: he needs a change.
Speaker 1: Maybe he does. But if i'm the Dragons, to your point,
Speaker 1: if I've got if I'm not prioritizing young guys like
Speaker 1: Civilia Tomaly coming through, if I don't think he's the
Speaker 1: right thing, no offense of our Homes out a great career.
Speaker 1: He's coming off a stinker of a season. He's twenty
Speaker 1: nine years old. He's on nine out of one thousand
Speaker 1: a year, and the only plus for me out of
Speaker 1: this would be what Shane Flanagan can do as far
Speaker 1: as increase the player's performance. I don't think it's a
Speaker 1: great signing for the Dragons. I wouldn't do it.
Speaker 4: I don't hate it, but I don't love it either,
Speaker 4: not when they've got like Tamali, when they've got like
Speaker 4: s I fin now, when they've got a kick called
Speaker 4: Jesse Williams coming through, who are all doing really well
Speaker 4: and impressing. So it just sort of doesn't make sense
Speaker 4: to me, especially if you're trying to build to the future.
Speaker 2: It's not going to save them, right, That's not going
Speaker 2: to be the big change.
Speaker 1: Does it have all the hallmarks of He's signed a
Speaker 1: four year deal, and the last eighty months of it,
Speaker 1: all the Dragon fans are up in arms saying, we're
Speaker 1: overpaying for this guy and we're not getting a performance
Speaker 1: that's my fee. And I'm being brutally honest because you know,
Speaker 1: twelve months ago he was playing good football, and even
Speaker 1: though the Cowboys are going pretty well this year, I
Speaker 1: don't think he's had a great year.
Speaker 4: And even if he was playing good football. Is he
Speaker 4: worth eight nine hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Nah, Well that's the decision to make, so we'll see
Speaker 1: what they do with that. But a bit of market
Speaker 1: watch news going on because the West Tigers confirmed this
Speaker 1: morning that Stefano Utoi Kamano is leaving. Still no confirmation
Speaker 1: where he's going.
Speaker 3: He might not know where he's going, you reckon he doesn't.
Speaker 3: Well there's you.
Speaker 4: Know, Cannoby's sort of been in and out and now
Speaker 4: they're in again. The Dolphins had an offer on the table,
Speaker 4: but as I understand, he rejected that offer. But I'm
Speaker 4: not sure Canabry have actually tabled a physical offer to
Speaker 4: him yet. They've had conversations with him. And it's a
Speaker 4: similar story for Melbourne. He's sort of a high priority,
Speaker 4: but they have to move things around to make it happen.
Speaker 4: Nelson is so for Solomona's only in the last twenty
Speaker 4: four hours come out and said, I've seen all the talk,
Speaker 4: but I'm sort of not going anywhere. And Melbourne have
Speaker 4: had a hard time trying to move him to other clubs,
Speaker 4: and you know, I guess that would come with a
Speaker 4: warning to every other club if Melbourne's trying to move Nelson.
Speaker 4: You know, you're probably asking why they're doing that. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean maybe he's got an idea of where he
Speaker 4: might like to end up, but I don't know how
Speaker 4: many genuine offers, physical offers he actually has on the
Speaker 4: table right now.
Speaker 1: Let me go to the Bulldogs. Seems like a pretty
Speaker 1: easy He's got a young family, doesn't sound like he
Speaker 1: wants to go anywhere. Go to the Bulldogs. Team on
Speaker 1: the up, need a big middle. You've got a style
Speaker 1: of play that seems to be bearing fruit at the moment.
Speaker 1: It just that seems like it seems pretty easy for
Speaker 1: me if he wants to stay in Sydney and they've
Speaker 1: got the money in the bank, don't they to pay
Speaker 1: so I do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, seems pretty good fit for me. But he's got
Speaker 2: options there for sure.
Speaker 1: Jeez.
Speaker 2: That's imagine him at Melbourne.
Speaker 1: Yeah, see what Sewan Boors done at Melbourne. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: guys that just go down there and improve out of
Speaker 1: a really good system them. And that's probably more point
Speaker 1: about Canterbury, is that what camp sud I was doing
Speaker 1: there at the club. At the moment, good system players
Speaker 1: are really enjoying their footy, which is what you're saying
Speaker 1: before about you know, with Penrith, So yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: That's what I'd be looking through. And the other interesting
Speaker 1: one Daniel Tupo, no retirement, two more years.
Speaker 2: Two more years. Well, he's still He's still killing it,
Speaker 2: isn't he. He's just kind of evergreen. He just seems
Speaker 2: like he always has been and he always will be.
Speaker 2: He just keeps keeps going backing on.
Speaker 4: I feel like he has an aged one bit in
Speaker 4: the last ten years. That's you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like he just hasn't lost you don't you know how
Speaker 4: players get to the end of their career and you
Speaker 4: sort of see them swing down a bit, but not
Speaker 4: none of that orders he now.
Speaker 3: Isn't he thirty?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's a two year dealer as well.
Speaker 1: Which obviously losing Joseph Kuso, Swali and Joey Marno, although
Speaker 1: many might be back to me next year anyway. So
Speaker 1: it's just it's rely reliability there for you at the Roosters.
Speaker 1: And you know, we know that Nick Politis loves his
Speaker 1: one club players. He loves the guys that put in
Speaker 1: and two po one of the nice guys in league.
Speaker 1: So I think that'll be Yeah, that's a good result.
Speaker 2: He's had a great career, hasn't He even has just
Speaker 2: been so good for so long. Representative player, everything is
Speaker 2: kids from it.
Speaker 4: From Auburn is one club player.
Speaker 3: Still doesn't think he knows.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we want to remove the eastern suburbs. Something I
Speaker 1: wanted to bring up that I was brought up to
Speaker 1: me on the weekend was Trijean to Lie still going ahead.
Speaker 1: We're seeing lots of try celebrations post try celebrations, but
Speaker 1: I didn't expect to see this at the weekend. Was
Speaker 1: Matt Hardy, former w w E wrestler. Still, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm kid in a Kenny store with this because wrestling
Speaker 1: and rugby league, to my great loves. He spotted or
Speaker 1: had it shown to him the try celebration for Ronaldo
Speaker 1: mal Taylor, which happened to look a little bit. This
Speaker 1: is his brother, Jeff Hardy for seeing the video. This
Speaker 1: is how Jeff Hardy does his entrance music, comes out,
Speaker 1: waving his arms round and when Marla Taylor crossed over
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys, he stood up and looked like he
Speaker 1: was doing something very similar. So Matt Hardy had seen
Speaker 1: it and then went and copied it. Shortly after, we
Speaker 1: had another try by kale Ero and it looked a
Speaker 1: little bit like DX Shaw Michael's Triple h Days, which
Speaker 1: is the if you're not down with d X, I've
Speaker 1: got two words for you. I'm not going to repeat
Speaker 1: me he because we're a family podcast. But when you've
Speaker 1: got a WWE superstar, a wrestling superstar showing highlights to
Speaker 1: his one and a half million followers on x or
Speaker 1: Twitter or whatever, they it's still cool. I thought that
Speaker 1: was very cool. I enjoyed that.
Speaker 2: It must be a bit of a they love the
Speaker 2: wrestling there at Chronologe and they do. Was it someone
Speaker 2: did the People's Elbow was the other year?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well I think it was it last year before. I think, yeah,
Speaker 2: so that went pretty viral too.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I know nothing about wrestling. I said to
Speaker 4: them when we're talking about about the Multila celebration. I
Speaker 4: was like, oh, yeah, that that we danced that he
Speaker 4: did And was like it's actually.
Speaker 2: I'm sure all our listeners Yeah yeah, Well surely that
Speaker 2: man's a bit of extra cash considering it's gone international.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, sports bet maybe added a little bit to
Speaker 4: the pop since it's all.
Speaker 3: For a good cause. But there's been a good one.
Speaker 4: Like it's good to see everybody sort of getting into
Speaker 4: it this year. So, I mean some try celebrations, probably
Speaker 4: a bit of work.
Speaker 1: It's all for charity, for charity, for charity.
Speaker 2: There were some good ones in the NLW actually over
Speaker 2: the weekend Olympics themed ones, there was lots of rowing
Speaker 2: and things like that.
Speaker 1: What was the one on was one on Thursday night?
Speaker 1: Was the was it the camera? Was it? The yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And the sniper sniper, Yeah, that was good.
Speaker 3: Harry Grant did the AFL oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that made me even angrier grinding teeth at
Speaker 1: that rough weekend. Most of them are weekends. Although I'm
Speaker 1: going to say I enjoyed that Thursday night game. I
Speaker 1: thought the Sydney Roosters were disappointing the second half. I
Speaker 1: thought they had all the play for and the Knights
Speaker 1: just shut them down. The Knights had them covered. I
Speaker 1: don't think they threw enough Adam in attack. They went
Speaker 1: down that right side a lot, and Jess Surgis was basically, here,
Speaker 1: go try and get us the win. They got themselves
Speaker 1: back into that game, but that Knight's defense that just
Speaker 1: kept coming and coming was unbelievable. There's very little doubt
Speaker 1: as to why they're premiership faith.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know they're so physical, they're really hard to
Speaker 2: get through obviously. But yeah, the Roosters, I think without
Speaker 2: Corbyn Baxter as well, that's a huge loss for them
Speaker 2: and they won't have Sam Bremna for it. Might be
Speaker 2: this week, could be next week. I think they were
Speaker 2: going to give her a couple of weeks just to
Speaker 2: she's super fit rightly, so she came in. She hadn't
Speaker 2: done preseason. She's come in. I think she broke a
Speaker 2: record in one of their fitness tests. So she's just
Speaker 2: an absolute beast. But it's a contact she needs to
Speaker 2: get the like the contact remarkable.
Speaker 1: Having her on the coverage of her team's game on
Speaker 1: Thursday night with Lara Pitt and the crew, that was
Speaker 1: that was just cool. I really enjoyed that. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the Knights. The Knights were great. Can you please
Speaker 1: give me some good news. Just tell me about the Eels.
Speaker 1: Just make sure I'm not making this up in my head.
Speaker 1: They were really good coming off the back of last season.
Speaker 1: That was what a performance.
Speaker 2: They had a dreadful season last year. There's no real
Speaker 2: two ways about it. They were awful, but they didn't
Speaker 2: have their half back for most of the year. They
Speaker 2: didn't have Elsie Albert, who is an absolute weapon, and
Speaker 2: they both made a huge difference to their team over
Speaker 2: the weekend. But we yeah, but to beat the Broncos
Speaker 2: as well, huge achievement. But they just seemed fit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: seemed really fit. Really mobiles that you know, off the
Speaker 2: back of Elsie's you know, huge runs. They just get
Speaker 2: so much, they get so much space and time. So yeah,
Speaker 2: and Rachel's kicking game was great, so yeah, so much.
Speaker 1: Let's see, that's why she's my favorite. You start the
Speaker 1: pod sledging me and gives me makes feel Yeah.
Speaker 2: Great Trai Julia Robinson, she obviously the weapon too.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: So another tough start to the year for the Broncos,
Speaker 2: though it's been a rough weekend.
Speaker 3: For the Broncos in general as a club in general.
Speaker 3: Healing crisis.
Speaker 1: I love the Usain Bolt. Yeah, celebration too. That was cool.
Speaker 1: That's cool, but especially after running ninety five meters for
Speaker 1: it as well. That was being on the end of
Speaker 1: that judicial news.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we saw the big well, I don't even
Speaker 2: know what you would call it. It wasn't really a
Speaker 2: melee because it was a punch throwne but really disgraceful scene.
Speaker 2: So this was a hip drop tackle for him not
Speaker 2: watching this on YouTube. There was a Annetta Claudia Norsala
Speaker 2: did a bit of a hip drop tackle here on
Speaker 2: Sherrington and then Kennedy comes in pushes her off because
Speaker 2: that's her little sister, and then it starts this Annetta
Speaker 2: clocks her in the face. This is disgraceful, and then
Speaker 2: she gets pulled back by her ponytail from behind as well.
Speaker 2: It's just foul scenes. No one wants to see this.
Speaker 2: And I made the point today in the paper like
Speaker 2: the NLW is in this position at the moment they're
Speaker 2: not professional yet that they need broadcast numbers. They need
Speaker 2: people to be tuning in. They need that to be
Speaker 2: able to go professional by the time the next you know,
Speaker 2: broadcast still comes around in twenty twenty eight. This is
Speaker 2: not the way that you're going to get people to
Speaker 2: be watching the game. Like if you these players all
Speaker 2: the time are talking about, oh, you know, we're role
Speaker 2: models for the next generation and we really want to
Speaker 2: inspire the next generation, this is not it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's the reason why they clamped down on
Speaker 4: un punching and fighting in the men's game, right, it's
Speaker 4: exactly reproduct. You know, what's the word desirable to as
Speaker 4: many eyeballs as possible, And it's the same thing in
Speaker 4: the in the NROL.
Speaker 2: Want entertaining you can still be, so that rivalry you
Speaker 2: can still have. It's still intense, it's still really physical
Speaker 2: without assault. So it's yeah, So Annetta, she was charged
Speaker 2: twice and she got charged for the hip drop and
Speaker 2: then also for striking, so she's looking at she's looking
Speaker 2: at six weeks in total, but with an early player
Speaker 2: before so to two weeks.
Speaker 1: Which is a massive chunk of the season two when
Speaker 1: you take that into considerations.
Speaker 2: Left.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm going to come together with you
Speaker 1: on this one. The Raiders were very good in erl
Speaker 1: W And I'm not being it's not about me, but
Speaker 1: my favorite player. So I'm a talfa he oh just
Speaker 1: gone yea tough as nails. I was Denis when she
Speaker 1: left Paramatta and yeah, they look good again. I think
Speaker 1: they're Yeah, it was at thirty two twelve over the Tigers,
Speaker 1: who didn't have a lot to cheer about. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think there they could be for a good season.
Speaker 1: The Raiders.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had a pretty good season last year too,
Speaker 2: So they finished fifth last year, so they were just
Speaker 2: outside of a semi final spot in their first year,
Speaker 2: which was pretty impressive.
Speaker 4: But I mean they had an early sage last year,
Speaker 4: didn't they. Like I was like, oh, okay, yeah, be
Speaker 4: onto something here, but yeah, no, it was.
Speaker 3: It was good to see.
Speaker 4: Hopefully they don't burn out this time around.
Speaker 2: What were some of those starts? I was looking at
Speaker 2: some of the starts from someonema the other day, so
Speaker 2: she rapped. It was something like she was up around
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy meters or something like that, thirty
Speaker 2: six tackles or something. Yeah, crazy, Yeah a try. She's
Speaker 2: so good.
Speaker 1: Oh and just yeah looking at the highlights. We're just
Speaker 1: watching now that let's see if this moves up here.
Speaker 1: I just want to see if we're right on target here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just out we go using the using the width.
Speaker 1: The way they go the right is they're good. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I enjoyed first week. So please don't burst my eels
Speaker 1: bubble next week because as per my ladder predictor, I
Speaker 1: don't have paramount of winning much before round twenty seven
Speaker 1: Spoon Bowl against the Tigers.
Speaker 3: So you've got the winning spoinball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which will be Yeah, did you have them? Who
Speaker 1: do you happen around twenty seven? Umm?
Speaker 3: Oh maybe I did go to the Eels winning Spomba.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I did too.
Speaker 1: Spends how many more injuries? Yeah, between now and but
Speaker 1: I think if.
Speaker 4: I didn't, they would have finished dead last. And I
Speaker 4: think psychologically I was like, Oh, it feels odd to
Speaker 4: have power at the bottom of the table.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'd like to say it's uncommon. But anyway, right,
Speaker 1: let's move on to everyone's favorite segment, what are you watching?
Speaker 1: Because I had a really good response from people who
Speaker 1: obviously don't they just suffer through our inneral jib i
Speaker 1: just to get the what are we watching? Part? So
Speaker 1: I'll let you guys go first, then I'll follow in
Speaker 1: lay with my disaster movies.
Speaker 4: I'm watching Homicide New York, which is true crime doco
Speaker 4: on Netflix, and basically or each episode is a new
Speaker 4: sort of crime that they have to mostly murder that
Speaker 4: they know solve.
Speaker 3: Most of them are sort.
Speaker 4: Of in the eighties early nineties when there was like
Speaker 4: a massive crime wave in New York and.
Speaker 3: It's super interesting.
Speaker 4: So it's based in Manhattan, but they're sort of split
Speaker 4: between North Homicide and South Homicide, so there's that rivalry
Speaker 4: between the two homicide squads and there's some fascinating cases
Speaker 4: that just really get you thinking and don't leave you.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I love a true crime documentary.
Speaker 2: As I've I binged all of this too. I absolutely
Speaker 2: love it. So it's like a they get all of
Speaker 2: the detectives that worked on these pass to explain it
Speaker 2: and then they it's shown as kind of like a show.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like Law and Order, but it's real.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really good.
Speaker 4: And my favorite one the one sort of in the
Speaker 4: in the eighties because it's sort of before all the
Speaker 4: technology technological advancements in like you know, in police work,
Speaker 4: and so it's like old school police work, you know,
Speaker 4: and I love that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: Is it like Shake par Altar in Brooklyn nine nine?
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 1: No, sorry, that's that's the extent of my TV cop shows.
Speaker 2: So I have recently finished I am Celene Dion. This
Speaker 2: is on Prime video, so just timely, very timely. So
Speaker 2: I watched it actually been a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2: I'm a huge Celandian fan, absolutely adore her. I think
Speaker 2: she's just what a great celebrity. She's so funny, she's
Speaker 2: so talented, she's just a queen, icon and legend and yeah,
Speaker 2: but this documentary was equal parts you know, funny and interesting,
Speaker 2: but it was devastating as well, just to see what
Speaker 2: she's you know, she's.
Speaker 1: Been, that she's had to go through.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so and then to see her I think
Speaker 2: I think it goes through about an hour and a
Speaker 2: half or so, but it's really really interesting, very heartfelt,
Speaker 2: and a bit distressing actually at times. So just a
Speaker 2: little bit of a warning there, but just to it
Speaker 2: gives you some perspective of how incredible her moment was
Speaker 2: at the opening ceremony at the Olympics. What it took
Speaker 2: for her to actually get on stage and perform again amazing.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can watch it because it
Speaker 1: seems I've seen a couple of clips that seem really heavy,
Speaker 1: but yeah, from what she's had to go through, that's yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll probably will watching it now. He won me over.
Speaker 2: It's really good. It's very very good.
Speaker 3: She's the best.
Speaker 1: Right now. So last week I put out the call
Speaker 1: for disaster movie suggestions. Feller by the name of Tristan
Speaker 1: got touched with me straight away and suggested Greenland, which
Speaker 1: I hadn't heard of before, which and which just bizarre
Speaker 1: because yeah, I know, Gerard, but la extinction level event
Speaker 1: basically has to get his family to safety as the
Speaker 1: Earth's about the you know, do you trust.
Speaker 2: Any other man to get your family to safety?
Speaker 1: Well, I always used to get in trouble with my
Speaker 1: wife because any time we're watching something I didn't really like,
Speaker 1: I'd say, you know, this movie needs it needs Arnie
Speaker 1: coming in and cleaning house, just shorts and again, but
Speaker 1: Butler and Tristan, you bastard squeaky bum time. For about
Speaker 1: ninety minutes. My kids had their stomachs they were so
Speaker 1: nervous throughout the entire movie. Yeah, it was too for
Speaker 1: something I hadn't heard of before, really really enjoyable. So
Speaker 1: you're talking about meteors ready to destroy Earth and you know,
Speaker 1: trying to live on through through that, trying to survive that,
Speaker 1: but also sort of the best and worst of humanity
Speaker 1: on the back of that, and it touches into that.
Speaker 1: And look, when it comes to disaster movies, I think
Speaker 1: they're like pizzas. Even when they're bad, they're good.
Speaker 3: They're good.
Speaker 1: I love I love a good bad movie. So and
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: It's a good bad Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm having a crack Attritian. But it's a good
Speaker 1: crack because there's yeah, there's good stuff to it as well.
Speaker 1: But someone who told me they I haven't seen yet Arcadian.
Speaker 1: It's a new Nick Cage film on stand, So let
Speaker 1: me know if anyone's seen it, if it's if that's worth it?
Speaker 4: But nae yeah, age, Okay, so that's going to going
Speaker 4: to be a good bad movie as well.
Speaker 1: No, No, there's just good movies.
Speaker 2: When it's Nicholas, the greatest movie of all time, I'm going.
Speaker 1: To steal the Declaration of Independence. I could watch those
Speaker 1: movies all time. But the other ones twenty twelve, which
Speaker 1: I've seen, San Andres the Rock, he fits in the
Speaker 1: same as Butler The Day the Earth was Still self.
Speaker 1: There's any other suggestions, let me know, but got me
Speaker 1: think about what have you guys seen the TV show
Speaker 1: on Netflix The one hundred?
Speaker 2: No, it's but I know what you mean, but I
Speaker 2: haven't watched it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it about.
Speaker 1: It's it is similar sort of planet Earth destroyed and
Speaker 1: there's the survivors are living on a spaceship basically. And
Speaker 1: I won't give way too much for me because so
Speaker 1: much twist and turn happened from there. But Australian Bob Morley,
Speaker 1: Eliza Taylor, she was Jane on Neighbors years ago and yeah,
Speaker 1: really enjoyable. So we watched that a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: We've got me thinking about that. I might have to
Speaker 1: go and rewatch it. But that's that was quite good.
Speaker 1: I think you guys might enjoy that one. But if
Speaker 1: you have any other suggestions on disaster movies or anything else,
Speaker 1: please again Adam dot Mobs at News dot com dot Au,
Speaker 1: because they were quite enjoyable watching Greenland. So yeah, well
Speaker 1: we'll be doing a couple more of ours.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I enjoyed that people listen to this podcast,
Speaker 2: but don't listen to it, just skip to the end together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I had no feedback on any of
Speaker 1: my crazy takes last week. It was all have you
Speaker 1: seen this.
Speaker 2: Feedback onto a great show? Thank you for the recommendation,
Speaker 2: So we'll see how we go.
Speaker 1: Well that's us for this week. We need to go
Speaker 1: and find out which players are going on which clubs,
Speaker 1: and what's going on with this run home Because there's
Speaker 1: plenty to do, so we'll do it again next week.
Speaker 1: Thanks guys,