WEBVTT -  How we met the loves of our lives

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<v Speaker 1>Ad A lady, A lady, A lady, A lady filtered. Hello, Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>it's your best ees, your friends, Hailey and Lauren. We

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<v Speaker 1>are ad Lady, I'm filtered. We're besties. We're business partners

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<v Speaker 1>and where the creators of ad Lady. Hello, I say,

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<v Speaker 1>Hailo's Media and we do everything together except bang.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that line. It's very funny. We got an

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<v Speaker 2>email from our insurance guy, Adrian, and he's like trying

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<v Speaker 2>to explain to the insurance company like they do everything

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<v Speaker 2>but bang, so they're insurable.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really awkward.

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<v Speaker 2>It really made me laugh. It's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we are we covered each other?

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<v Speaker 2>Like ninety nine percent? Sure we're covered?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Are we covered? Are we covered? I don't know? Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, we're going to start this podcast with our

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<v Speaker 1>member of the week. You have a douzy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Hailey Pearson, you are going to Thailand with my

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<v Speaker 2>partner Burjo.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds really salacious when you say like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. There is a conference over in Thailand

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<v Speaker 2>that we have hosted for years and it is amazing

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<v Speaker 2>and I can't go because I just can't be thirty

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<v Speaker 2>weeks pregnant in Thailand. The thought of that gives me anxiety.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which is fair enough. And so we thought, well,

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<v Speaker 1>who am I going to do this with? And the

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<v Speaker 1>next best option plan B B for Burjo, B for Berjo.

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<v Speaker 2>He's in media, he loves a chat, loves a drink,

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<v Speaker 2>loves to party.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, if you don't know us and you

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<v Speaker 1>just saw that on paper that I'm going overseas with

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<v Speaker 1>your partner, it's pretty weird, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what's weirder? I'm moving into your house

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<v Speaker 2>with your husband.

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<v Speaker 1>You will go over there for dinner, and that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>But I will say I've been friends with Burjo longer

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<v Speaker 1>than I've been friends with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you two used to bitch about me when

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<v Speaker 2>I was your producer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because you used to have really long nails and

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<v Speaker 1>you put them along the blackboard like you were like

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<v Speaker 1>you when you were twenty. You look like you were

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<v Speaker 1>fifty in that light. Not that you looked old in

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<v Speaker 1>the face, but you acted like full shoulder pads brief case.

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<v Speaker 1>You walked into that radio station like you were Miranda

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<v Speaker 1>from Devils Grata.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was, I have my little shoulder pads on

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<v Speaker 2>that I'd probably bought a blazer from soup prey because

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<v Speaker 2>times were tough, and Burgeon.

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<v Speaker 1>I would go, oh god, she's wearing a shoulder pads.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, she goes, what does she want now? No, so

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<v Speaker 2>you guys are going away for six days, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I am afraid of the dark. So I'm thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>moving in with my parents.

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<v Speaker 1>Thought, Hang, you've lived here by yourself before. Burgo was

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<v Speaker 1>living here for years and you were fine. You used

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<v Speaker 1>to go outside of you heard a noise with a bat.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to be so strong.

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<v Speaker 1>What's happened? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm now like the thought of being alone in my

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<v Speaker 2>house and having to be like the full time parent,

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<v Speaker 2>like and look after Sophia.

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<v Speaker 1>You actually have to do something now.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I can. That's what it is. It's not that you

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<v Speaker 1>scare the dark, is that you don't want to look

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<v Speaker 1>after child on your.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want a parent, No. I just get afraid

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<v Speaker 2>being by myself these days, which I never.

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<v Speaker 1>Used to be. Do you know you were so fierce

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<v Speaker 1>when you were living in this house and you bought

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<v Speaker 1>this house all by yourself, living here with your baby girl,

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<v Speaker 1>and you were so strong and fierce.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's the pregnancy thing. Again. It's the imposter

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<v Speaker 2>syndrome thing. I've been going through, the doubting myself. But

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<v Speaker 2>I used to be afraid of the dark, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I got so strong, and now I feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to be by myself again, Like that is

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<v Speaker 2>making me anxious. So while you guys are holidaying in Pouquette,

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<v Speaker 2>I might move in with mum and dad. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>also like a holiday, you know. In the mornings, I

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<v Speaker 2>get up hold from Mom, what do you want for

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<v Speaker 2>dinner tonight? I'm like, oh, I'm just do a pravd can.

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<v Speaker 1>When we just talk about that as an adult, going

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<v Speaker 1>to your mum and dad's house, isn't it funny how

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<v Speaker 1>we walk through that door and we revert to being

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<v Speaker 1>a child. I sit on the couch, Dad massages my feet,

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<v Speaker 1>Mum goes, what do you want and makes me whatever

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<v Speaker 1>I want.

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<v Speaker 2>In the kitchen we are children again. Do you want

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<v Speaker 2>a banana cake tonight?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>God, I would love.

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<v Speaker 1>A bananas It is just the nicest thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think maybe it's just me pretending I'm scared,

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<v Speaker 2>just so I can go home and have a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you just want for dinner?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And dadd wud takes a fear on adventures and

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<v Speaker 2>I can just lay on the couch and have grapes.

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<v Speaker 1>Drop into my mouth. Lazy. All right, here's my member

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<v Speaker 1>of the week. I'm feeling really good this year. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like last year I was robotic, I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>too much, and this year I feel like I'm starting

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<v Speaker 1>my day with a walk, come back, have brecky. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a really nice time. But this morning, my oldest son

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<v Speaker 1>happened to be at basketball really early. So Jimmy and

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<v Speaker 1>I are walking and I looked at my phone halfway

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<v Speaker 1>through our walk, and I had fifty eight messages. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not joking, fifty eight from our eleven year old outfeet.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just read. I won't read all fifty eight because

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<v Speaker 1>it will take a couple of poos.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be here until next week.

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<v Speaker 1>This is legit. I just woke up and no one

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<v Speaker 1>is home. Where is everybody? New message? Help me? New message? Mom,

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<v Speaker 1>New message? Mom, Mom, Mom, Mom, mom, mom, mom, Please

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<v Speaker 1>help me. I just woke up and no one is home.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you? Where is everyone? Help me? Mum? Then

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<v Speaker 1>he copy and pasted it. I'm just going to show

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<v Speaker 1>you the screenshot, copy and paste, copy and paste. It

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<v Speaker 1>goes on and on and on, and then by the

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<v Speaker 1>time I saw it, I said, baby, we're walking and

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<v Speaker 1>he said, but what do I do? And I said, shower,

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<v Speaker 1>get dressed, and we'll be home in tent And he said, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I like what he's so dramatic, are we?

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<v Speaker 1>I love you goes to the worst every time he's

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<v Speaker 1>so dramatic, and I can't work out because he's really funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, are you just taking the business this is

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<v Speaker 1>a funny thing, or are you actually anxious? Like do

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<v Speaker 1>you think you're going to die? I think it's he

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<v Speaker 1>thinks he's going to die, which we've discussed on a

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<v Speaker 1>previous podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, morbid brain hashtag, yeah, Brin.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not even he doesn't even have a phone.

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<v Speaker 1>This is on his laptop. He's sitting there on his

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<v Speaker 1>laptop like he's doing a business meeting, typing to me.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't even done our shopping. This is what we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about today.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going to talk about Devil wes Pridor because

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's talking about at the moment quickly, and then we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to talk about our love stories, how we found

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<v Speaker 2>our ways to our partners.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you are like Laurens thirty seven, I'm forty four,

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<v Speaker 1>if you are in your single era and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>how do I meet that one? How do I meet them? Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to tell you our story and it might

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<v Speaker 1>give you a couple of ideas of how you can

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<v Speaker 1>potentially meet your love of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy boy, is it a journey?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yours is up and down and up and down, up.

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<v Speaker 2>And down and up and down? All right? Random talk to.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, Okay, devil whrez Frida. I have been so excited

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<v Speaker 1>to see this movie. I love this movie so much,

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<v Speaker 1>number one and it came out. I cannot believe this

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years ago?

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<v Speaker 2>Did it?

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that crazy? And the fact that they've got all

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<v Speaker 1>the cast back, like the core cast, and they look

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<v Speaker 1>just as good, if not better than they looked twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. They're all back, which is amazing. Money and

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<v Speaker 1>plastic surgery for you, Yeah, but good plastic surgery. Like

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<v Speaker 1>i'd say, Anne Hathaway, you look at her face and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, I can't tell, Like you have to have

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<v Speaker 1>had something dumb, but I can't tell. It's that good.

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<v Speaker 1>She looks like her face moves, but she still looks

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<v Speaker 1>really young.

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<v Speaker 2>How old would she be an out of Reckon, she'd be.

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<v Speaker 1>My ade Rekon? Or can she be forty four? Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>even forty five?

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<v Speaker 2>Who's her?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? And Meryl streets she is just a freaking queen.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if I met her in real life, I

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<v Speaker 1>would pass out in front of her because I'd be

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<v Speaker 1>so nervous. She's so intimidating but so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>And she'd look down at you with her glasses.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I want to talk about two things. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to do spoilers in case you haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>it yet, but I do want to talk about one

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<v Speaker 1>thing because it relates to us. You haven't seen it

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<v Speaker 1>because you don't like going to the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I go to the movies, guys, because you

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<v Speaker 2>can't talk in movies, and that gives me exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to talk.

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<v Speaker 2>You do.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like Alfie. That's why I regretted bringing him to

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<v Speaker 1>that movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Or I sleep The last time I went to a movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I slept for fifty minutes. I woke up and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, who died? What happened?

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<v Speaker 1>I know? I saw a photo your husband, Burdo, send

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<v Speaker 1>it to me. Okay, Devil Wears Bright Up. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a spoiler without being a spoiler. It's not giving it

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<v Speaker 1>anything too much away. But in the first five minutes, Andy,

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<v Speaker 1>who's the main character and Hathaway, is working for a

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<v Speaker 1>paper and she's at an awards night and she's about

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<v Speaker 1>to win an award. She's at a table of ten,

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<v Speaker 1>all her colleagues, and right as she's about to get

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<v Speaker 1>on stage with this award, they get a text message

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<v Speaker 1>that says, you're redundant. You've been made redundant, and so

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<v Speaker 1>the whole table have just lost their jobs and she

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<v Speaker 1>has to get up and accept this award, and she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm should be really happy right now, but my whole

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<v Speaker 1>table have just been fired. And this is the scary

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<v Speaker 1>thing about print media and that landscape which we are

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<v Speaker 1>part of. We have an ad Lady magazine, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a physical magazine, a coffee table book.

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<v Speaker 2>You can smell it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's delicious. The whole movie is basically about how that

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<v Speaker 1>is dead and everyone is moving on to the digital era,

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<v Speaker 1>which I love digital era. I love being on my

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<v Speaker 1>phone and looking and scrolling, but if I'm reading a magazine,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I need a physical copy. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>even get a kindle or an iPad. I have to

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<v Speaker 1>have the book.

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<v Speaker 2>If I want to read a book, I read the book.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot read off a screen because screen takes me

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<v Speaker 2>back to being at work.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you always say this story. When we first

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<v Speaker 1>started our magazine, they were dying. It was in the

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<v Speaker 1>whole era of like, fuck, we're a magazine's going The.

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<v Speaker 2>Week we started our Ade Lady magazine, three South Australian

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<v Speaker 2>magazines in that week went fast. And we've been planning

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<v Speaker 2>this magazine for like six months, Like it wasn't like

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<v Speaker 2>let's start a magazine tomorrow. And then suddenly three weren't

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<v Speaker 2>there anymore, and that was really scary, but we still

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<v Speaker 2>went we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to do this.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the best decision we've ever made. It was

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<v Speaker 2>I never want to not do the print magazine.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel though, you know how this whole new

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<v Speaker 1>generation of people, which I love, they're not they're not

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<v Speaker 1>drinking anymore, they don't buy a new fashion that's everything

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<v Speaker 1>sustainable and they go back to records and the old

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<v Speaker 1>school things. Do you think that maybe, and I'm hoping

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<v Speaker 1>fingers crossed, we've had this whole like oh wow, everything's

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<v Speaker 1>digital and now like, h No, I actually like the

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<v Speaker 1>physical copy things like magazines will come back.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's always going to be a place for

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<v Speaker 2>social media, like we love it Instagram, Facebook. There's always

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<v Speaker 2>going to be stuff that's going to pop up. But

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like print, books, records, all that old stuff

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<v Speaker 2>is always going to be around, like the good old

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<v Speaker 2>days of like the seventies and eighties and nineties. Like

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<v Speaker 2>think about the music our kids and our kids' kids

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<v Speaker 2>are going to listen to abba.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what they listen to. My kids, Yeah, listen

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<v Speaker 1>to what I listened to as opposed to music of today.

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<v Speaker 2>So the stuff that's happening now, because there's so much happening, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't feel like it's going to live on as

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<v Speaker 2>long as the older stuff. So I think there's always

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a place for TV, print everything.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing better than opening a book or a magazine

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<v Speaker 1>and just like that feel and you feel like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in my little happy place. I'm about to escape

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<v Speaker 1>the world and go into this book in front of

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<v Speaker 1>me and you smell it, you smell the pages, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just so nice. On that though Andy made redundant,

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<v Speaker 1>I did want to say this. This is so relatable

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<v Speaker 1>right now. There are so many redundancies in our industry,

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<v Speaker 1>in radio, in TV, it's everywhere. It's really sad. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these massive buildings that were once full of

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<v Speaker 1>people and a beehive of energy are now diminishing to nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>You have flaws that are completely empty because people are

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<v Speaker 1>being made redundant and being replaced by maybe it's AI,

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<v Speaker 1>or they're just putting five people's workloads on one person.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what's happening now. But when you get made redundant,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's the best thing that will ever happen to

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<v Speaker 1>you because your brain can reset and you can go Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I know at first this is the worst thing in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. I've lost all my confidence. But now I

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<v Speaker 1>can actually work out what I really want, and you

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<v Speaker 1>might go in a whole different path.

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<v Speaker 2>When we started at a Lady exactly you were made redundant.

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<v Speaker 2>I went crazy, it was like redundant, Well, it's true,

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<v Speaker 2>and we had time to reset because often, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like some people take a gap year after school, or

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<v Speaker 2>it's very rare in your adult life and career that

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<v Speaker 2>you're forced to stop, yes, but being forced to stop

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<v Speaker 2>gives you time to be creative and go what do

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<v Speaker 2>I actually want to do? And that's where the best

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<v Speaker 2>businesses come from. Like I just want to bake bread

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<v Speaker 2>or I think about that. Lady we once met in

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<v Speaker 2>McLaren Vale. She was retired and she got time to

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<v Speaker 2>stop and think and she opened up a bakery because

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<v Speaker 2>she loved baking and it turned into the most amazing,

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<v Speaker 2>hustling and bustling bakery that she started when she was

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<v Speaker 2>like seventy. She was like, I never wanted to do this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know it was going to turn into this,

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<v Speaker 2>but here we are. She had time to think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of people who are in a job

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<v Speaker 1>and they don't have the confidence. They're not brave enough

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<v Speaker 1>to leave and try something that they've always wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>To do there for years and it's all they know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so look at it if you I know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>really hard, Okay. Colin's perfect example. She was reading the

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<v Speaker 1>news on Channel nine for years and then she was

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<v Speaker 1>made redundant. And it's a normal thing in media, this happens.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, you haven't been a media unless you have

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<v Speaker 1>been made redundant. I know, right, But she's found this

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<v Speaker 1>new lease on life. She's now doing a heap of

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<v Speaker 1>other things that are feeling her bucket. She's doing pr

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<v Speaker 1>she's doing Hallosa with us, She's doing all these other

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<v Speaker 1>things that she probably would never have done if she

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't have been made redundant. So sometimes it's a blessing.

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<v Speaker 2>Being redundant is not the worst thing that can happen

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<v Speaker 2>in life.

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<v Speaker 1>Being made redundant. Being redundant is the worst thing that

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<v Speaker 1>can happen in life.

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<v Speaker 2>You're redundant.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be redundant.

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<v Speaker 2>You're redundant.

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<v Speaker 1>You're dead to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, no, but remember when I came back from having Sofia,

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<v Speaker 2>I felt redundant in the business, and it was actually

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<v Speaker 2>the worst thing ever. Like I have to have triggered

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<v Speaker 2>right out. I thought, you didn't need me.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you always need it.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's your brain. You go to everything's running smooth,

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<v Speaker 2>everything's fine. Oh my gosh, I don't need me, Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my gosh, I'll go work for someone else. Yeah, baby,

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<v Speaker 2>brain does weird shit to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, cost of living is really hard right now. So

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<v Speaker 1>if this is happening to you, we totally understand that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like shit, what am I gonna do, but you

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<v Speaker 1>will find your way and it will be fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you'll be all right.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Okay, we are about to talk love. We

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<v Speaker 1>love love. I love love. I love love.

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<v Speaker 2>I never used to love love.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know you did. It was always there,

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<v Speaker 1>but now you really feel it. I had a situation

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<v Speaker 1>this week where I feel like I fell in love

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<v Speaker 1>with my husband all over again, and I know he

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<v Speaker 1>felt the same. And it was because he had a

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<v Speaker 1>general ascetic. He was drugged, highly drugged, like I'm serious.

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<v Speaker 1>He went under to have a little operation, and while

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<v Speaker 1>that was happening, I was so stressed, thinking, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>what if he doesn't wake up? This is like what

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<v Speaker 1>And then when I picked him up from the thing,

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<v Speaker 1>we just hugged and got into the lift and kissed.

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<v Speaker 1>This is something you don't really do when you've been

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<v Speaker 1>together for twenty years. Just like embrace, you made out,

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<v Speaker 1>We gave yeah, we had a little kiss in the

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<v Speaker 1>hell up and then that nineties just like I could

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<v Speaker 1>tell you know when you just go he's just hugging

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<v Speaker 1>and touching and just like just appreciate you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think when you when you're in that situation,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you do take your partner for granted a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit because it's normal so.

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<v Speaker 2>Much because you're like what everyone aspires to be, love

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<v Speaker 2>each other and find each other sexy and funny. After

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years, I got a craig.

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<v Speaker 1>It is weird, isn't it. Anyway, we thought, oh God,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where this is going to go to.

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<v Speaker 1>Lawrence already lost it. We're going to talk about love

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<v Speaker 1>because we thought, if you are single and you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to find someone, whether it be a boy or a girl,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to share our love stories and maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>will give you a little bit of hope because mine

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<v Speaker 1>was more smooth sailing than Laurence, but we still ended

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<v Speaker 1>up in the same place. So let's start with your story.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, how long? How long do we have?

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have that long, so an edited version.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay version. So I used to produce you and Burgo

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<v Speaker 2>back in the day safm Days Michael Haley and Burjo show,

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<v Speaker 2>like what fifteen years ago, and I didn't really like Burgo,

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<v Speaker 2>like we were friends and then we weren't friends. We've

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<v Speaker 2>had a really like up and down, especially at the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning relationship which you were part of. From the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's talk about the first moment that Burgo started.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's the first night you met him and there

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<v Speaker 1>were two new guys and you were on a dance

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<v Speaker 1>floor and you knew one of them was gay.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of them was straight, and we happened to

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<v Speaker 2>be at a party and I just Burgo rocked up

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<v Speaker 2>and I just started like slut dropping on the dance

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<v Speaker 2>dance floor and being so wild to him. And then

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<v Speaker 2>we got to work on the Monday, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my gosh, you're not the gay one, You're the

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<v Speaker 2>straight one. Because then I met Christian Hull, who was

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<v Speaker 2>my assistant producer, and he was clearly gay, and I went, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>my gosh, I'm so embarrassed. So Burgo's just like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>this chick's into me. This is nice. She's very forward.

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<v Speaker 2>But from then we stopped working at the station. We

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<v Speaker 2>didn't see each other for a really long time.

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<v Speaker 1>You were very nice at the beginning to each other,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it was more there was obviously always

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<v Speaker 1>something there, because there's a really fine line between love

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<v Speaker 1>and hate and very fine, and it was that you like,

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<v Speaker 1>he would pick on things, but I was always like

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<v Speaker 1>you'd like her like you definitely like that girl you

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<v Speaker 1>were with someone, so I don't think you were looking

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<v Speaker 1>at him the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>And then my partner at the time didn't like Burgo

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<v Speaker 2>because I think he always thought that there was something

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<v Speaker 2>going on which there wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Because he would come to your house as friends and

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<v Speaker 1>just rock up for.

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<v Speaker 2>Dinner all the time, would hang out. We would hang

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<v Speaker 2>out all the time. We were just like he'd pick

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<v Speaker 2>me up from my apartment and go do Manie's down

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<v Speaker 2>Heinley Street, listening to loud music together and nothing would happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But then slowly something started to happen, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>you were away and I called you to tell you

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<v Speaker 2>that we'd kissed and you'd.

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<v Speaker 1>Had a dream, a dream I knew. When you told me,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I know what you're about to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you kissed Bergo, didn't you? And you did?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh. We've always been in things.

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<v Speaker 1>Like so weird.

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<v Speaker 2>And then from then we got together and Bergo won

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<v Speaker 2>the Green Card Lottery. So just as we got together,

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<v Speaker 2>he won the Green Card Lottery, which he'd been trying

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<v Speaker 2>to win forever, which means you can go to America

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<v Speaker 2>and work and live like a citizen because his mum's America.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is something knowing Bergo for a very long time,

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<v Speaker 1>this is something he'd always wanted and his dream was

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<v Speaker 1>always to do radio in America. Yeah, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>met you, and so getting the green card was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what do I do?

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<v Speaker 2>So he went. I was like, don't change your life

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<v Speaker 2>for me. You go do Brokey radio in Seattle, do

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<v Speaker 2>your thing. And I was like, whatever you go. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not even going to come because I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>miss you. And I tried to play it really cool,

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<v Speaker 2>and within three weeks I was over there. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I really miss you. And we tried the

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<v Speaker 2>long distance thing and in the end he gave up

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<v Speaker 2>his green card to move home, to which we got engaged,

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<v Speaker 2>bought a house, did everything quite quick. Planning the wedding

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<v Speaker 2>you did.

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<v Speaker 1>Both of you run on dopamine, so you're the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Normally in a relationship, there's one person that's more logical,

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<v Speaker 1>but you guys are the same. So when you get

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<v Speaker 1>your heart set on something, you decided one day, one morning,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get a puppy. By that afternoon, you'd already picked

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<v Speaker 1>up a puppy in Port Augusta or whatever the hell

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<v Speaker 1>you went. And I love that you're like that, you

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<v Speaker 1>both you're both the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we have the same brain. And then it was

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty. I was supposed to be getting married on

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<v Speaker 2>my birthday, March twenty one, getting married, and three days

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<v Speaker 2>before the wedding, scomo said nothing over one hundred people,

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<v Speaker 2>no events, so we had to cancel our wedding. And

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<v Speaker 2>I never forget that. I remember that night we got

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<v Speaker 2>so drunk with our bridesmaids and our groomsman's and just

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<v Speaker 2>forgot about it. Lost money. It was horrific. So many

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<v Speaker 2>people went through this, didn't get married. Then we broke

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<v Speaker 2>up for a couple of weeks, a couple of months,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of months, a couple of months, or a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of months. Then we got back together.

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<v Speaker 1>Doude, do you want to share why you broke up?

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<v Speaker 1>Or I think do you remember? You don't remember? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you put you block alive?

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<v Speaker 2>I blows a lot of things out, but I do

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<v Speaker 2>genuinely think Burge and I were very similar. We're very

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<v Speaker 2>fiery people, and we both weren't the best versions of ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>And you would often bring out the worst in each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but when you were good, it was so good.

0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:11.719
<v Speaker 2>And when we were bad, we were bad. And then

0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:13.879
<v Speaker 2>we got back together and I got pregnant and we

0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:16.639
<v Speaker 2>had Sofia and it was the best thing ever. And

0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:19.719
<v Speaker 2>then a few months into having a baby, when your

0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:23.280
<v Speaker 2>brain is all crazy and it's not good, we broke

0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:25.919
<v Speaker 2>up again, and for this time we were not together

0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:30.960
<v Speaker 2>for a long time. I lived home, and then I

0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:33.840
<v Speaker 2>bought this house and he has a house, and we

0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:36.840
<v Speaker 2>were trying to co parent and do that thing of

0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:41.040
<v Speaker 2>the respectfulness to our child, who we both loved more

0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:44.040
<v Speaker 2>than anything. He is an amazing dad. I was trying

0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:46.359
<v Speaker 2>to be the best mum I could possibly be, and

0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:49.159
<v Speaker 2>on the outside people were looking and it was so

0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:53.080
<v Speaker 2>weird because we traveled together, we hung out together, we

0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:56.000
<v Speaker 2>had all of our families and everyone around, because our

0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:58.679
<v Speaker 2>biggest thing was we never wanted Sofia to see anything,

0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:00.240
<v Speaker 2>and we just wanted her to feel.

0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:03.240
<v Speaker 1>Loved and from the outside, so you know, she never

0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:06.680
<v Speaker 1>would she would never know. She was so happy going

0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:09.080
<v Speaker 1>to her dad's house, her mum's house, and she would

0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:11.520
<v Speaker 1>holiday with you both and see that you treated each

0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:14.200
<v Speaker 1>other really respectfully. When you were guys were together. Yeah,

0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:17.840
<v Speaker 1>and it's a really nice thing to watch. And I

0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:21.120
<v Speaker 1>think from the outside you both worked on yourself.

0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so much. Yeah, it was a really hard time

0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:31.000
<v Speaker 2>being a part and not seeing a child every day

0:21:31.520 --> 0:21:37.760
<v Speaker 2>is something that you know, we should put anyone. Oh, Hailey,

0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:41.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry. I'm so emotional. But anyway, it slowly

0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:46.480
<v Speaker 2>started to happen where we started to you know, we were

0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:49.040
<v Speaker 2>holiday and doing the parenting thing together, and we started

0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:52.240
<v Speaker 2>to hang out a lot more, and we'd both gone

0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:56.600
<v Speaker 2>away and we'd worked on ourselves. I think I was

0:21:56.640 --> 0:21:59.040
<v Speaker 2>always relying on Burgo to make me happy, but I

0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:02.439
<v Speaker 2>wasn't happy in my I had to be happy.

0:22:04.160 --> 0:22:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, you're so sad.

0:22:05.760 --> 0:22:13.840
<v Speaker 2>When you're sad, Betty's like, get away from my mom. Anyway,

0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:19.040
<v Speaker 2>So we ended up getting back together and it's been

0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:22.919
<v Speaker 2>the best thing that's ever happened. And I'm content and

0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:25.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm happy. I mean, it doesn't look like I am now, No,

0:22:26.320 --> 0:22:26.719
<v Speaker 2>it is.

0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:31.159
<v Speaker 1>It's really nice and you're both you're both really happy.

0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:34.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I love him lots, and I love the

0:22:34.600 --> 0:22:37.439
<v Speaker 2>life that we've built. But sometimes and I just wouldn't

0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:40.480
<v Speaker 2>say this since we've been back together. I've had a

0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:43.720
<v Speaker 2>few people come up to me and say they've given

0:22:43.760 --> 0:22:46.000
<v Speaker 2>me a hug and said, you've given me hope. Like

0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:49.520
<v Speaker 2>they're having issues with their partners or they've just had kids,

0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:53.399
<v Speaker 2>and everything gets put into their kids and the relationship

0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:56.119
<v Speaker 2>gets forgotten about, and then suddenly you're three years down

0:22:56.440 --> 0:22:59.680
<v Speaker 2>and there's no romantic spark and you're staring down the

0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:02.280
<v Speaker 2>barrel of a divorce because you're taking everything out on

0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:06.360
<v Speaker 2>that person. And I've had a few people say, thank you,

0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:10.120
<v Speaker 2>You've given me hope. We can work on this, and

0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:14.320
<v Speaker 2>you can. If you love someone, you could always work

0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:16.520
<v Speaker 2>on it. And I think I had to go through

0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:19.760
<v Speaker 2>the thing of relationships aren't perfect. They're not perfect one

0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:21.600
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent of the time, and that is okay.

0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:24.400
<v Speaker 1>But I also think you did a really smart thing

0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:27.720
<v Speaker 1>that I know you regret it, but you did a

0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:31.680
<v Speaker 1>smart thing by separating, because the worst thing would have

0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:34.919
<v Speaker 1>been is when you were fiery and you weren't good together.

0:23:35.400 --> 0:23:37.320
<v Speaker 1>You don't ever want so Fee to see that, and

0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:39.560
<v Speaker 1>that would she would have seen that day to day.

0:23:39.880 --> 0:23:44.119
<v Speaker 1>So you separated and you worked on yourselves individually, and

0:23:44.119 --> 0:23:47.480
<v Speaker 1>you've come back together. And it does give people hope

0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:48.920
<v Speaker 1>it does. You're so right.

0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:54.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and now I'm pregnant again and we're having a

0:23:54.640 --> 0:23:58.199
<v Speaker 2>little baby and it's funny. So he's been calling me

0:23:58.280 --> 0:24:00.359
<v Speaker 2>his wife on social so I've been getting all these

0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:03.520
<v Speaker 2>messages from people going, oh, congratulations, you've got married. I'm like, no,

0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:06.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm wearing the ring again because I'm like, you know,

0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:08.400
<v Speaker 2>we're having our second child, we're living together. It's a thing.

0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:12.919
<v Speaker 2>But it's happened quickly, but it hasn't, if you know

0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:15.240
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. It's taken a long time to get

0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:19.840
<v Speaker 2>to this point of feeling like we can fight and

0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:22.880
<v Speaker 2>we can fight respectfully. It's something that I always used

0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:25.720
<v Speaker 2>to say with you. You and Jimmy have always loved

0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:28.280
<v Speaker 2>each other and had that respect for each other. And

0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:30.320
<v Speaker 2>it's like you and I, we're like a marriage, and

0:24:30.359 --> 0:24:32.840
<v Speaker 2>you fight, but you fight respectfully fight.

0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:34.440
<v Speaker 1>So well, you and I. When I say we fight,

0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:36.159
<v Speaker 1>we don't really fight of them. But when we do

0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:39.600
<v Speaker 1>have disagreements, we do it how all married couple should

0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:40.639
<v Speaker 1>because it's done with respect.

0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:43.479
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, and it's not escalated and taken to this

0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:46.680
<v Speaker 2>horrible spot which we used to do. And now we've

0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:48.719
<v Speaker 2>worked on ourselves and don't do And you know, if

0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:50.719
<v Speaker 2>I fire up, burgo goes, look, we don't do that anymore.

0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:52.960
<v Speaker 1>She's what she just said something that I think is

0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:57.480
<v Speaker 1>so true. You said that it's not blaming him. You

0:24:57.600 --> 0:24:59.920
<v Speaker 1>needed to work on yourself. It's the same with you.

0:25:00.840 --> 0:25:03.720
<v Speaker 1>Maybe if you aren't in a great situation with your partner.

0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 1>You both individually need to love yourself before you love

0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:08.320
<v Speaker 1>each other. You have to.

0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:11.240
<v Speaker 2>You can't rely on someone else to make you happy.

0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:14.720
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't happy. I was chasing something. I don't know

0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:17.480
<v Speaker 2>what I was chasing. And then there was resentment, like

0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:20.160
<v Speaker 2>you should be there making me happy. You can't pick

0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:22.720
<v Speaker 2>that fight. You can't do that, and I'd get angry

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:27.399
<v Speaker 2>and our fights would escalate really quickly, and I don't

0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:27.679
<v Speaker 2>like that.

0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:29.879
<v Speaker 1>You don't do that anymore. And if you do do that,

0:25:29.960 --> 0:25:32.160
<v Speaker 1>you go, hey, we don't do this anymore.

0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:32.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 1>And you are going to be put to the test

0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:36.800
<v Speaker 1>again when you have a baby, and you're going to

0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:38.080
<v Speaker 1>be all over the place and you're not going to

0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:40.040
<v Speaker 1>be doing your work, which I know brings you heaps

0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:43.480
<v Speaker 1>of happiness. Yeah, it's stressful. And having a baby is

0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:47.840
<v Speaker 1>when couples do fight with each other. Yeah, and they

0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:50.880
<v Speaker 1>do lose that connection. So you're about to be put

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:53.400
<v Speaker 1>to the test again, but this time you've learned from

0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:54.360
<v Speaker 1>what happened last time.

0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:56.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, so yesterday was it?

0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Yesterday?

0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:58.840
<v Speaker 2>The day before I woke up saying, let's sell our

0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:01.600
<v Speaker 2>house and buy a new house, because that's the dope

0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:03.199
<v Speaker 2>mean in my brain, because I saw a house that

0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:05.320
<v Speaker 2>I liked. So it's like, let's sell our house and

0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:07.399
<v Speaker 2>like the next week and then buy another house, all

0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:10.800
<v Speaker 2>before we have a baby in a few weeks. Anyway,

0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Burge and I were talking. I was like, Okay, I've

0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:15.120
<v Speaker 2>got the window cleaner's coming, the paint is coming, this coming,

0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:17.880
<v Speaker 2>everything's happening by tomorrow. And he goes, we just need

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:20.200
<v Speaker 2>to calm down. We need to come down. Everything's moving

0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 2>so quickly. And then I hung up on him. This

0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:25.200
<v Speaker 2>is just before the podcast. And then I just wrote back,

0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:27.760
<v Speaker 2>do you know what, nothing matters because we love each

0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:30.040
<v Speaker 2>other and that's the main thing, right And he goes, exactly,

0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:32.760
<v Speaker 2>we're back, do you know what I mean?

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:36.240
<v Speaker 1>Like, yes, I myself going crazy.

0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:37.960
<v Speaker 2>When I start to like escalate it in my brain,

0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:40.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, maybe I am being an idiot. Yeah, let's

0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 2>bring it down in the end, I don't care if

0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:44.560
<v Speaker 2>we live in a bus stop, long as our family

0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:46.919
<v Speaker 2>are healthy, kid is healthy, and we've got each other.

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, that was the rollercoaster love story.

0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:52.959
<v Speaker 1>That that is a very different love story than my

0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:53.480
<v Speaker 1>love story.

0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 2>Yours involved stalking mine.

0:26:56.600 --> 0:27:00.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, mine. My story starts from when I was

0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:06.320
<v Speaker 1>traw nineteen, I reckon even eighteen at the gym and

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I would go to the perfect Fit Mitchem and I

0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 1>started seeing this guy at the gym occasionally. He said

0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:17.520
<v Speaker 1>he noticed me first, which is weird because I became

0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:20.680
<v Speaker 1>the stalker. But I was also working at Video Easy

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 1>and Hunger, and he walked in one night, one Friday

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:28.639
<v Speaker 1>night with Putty, who's his best mate and who I

0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:31.560
<v Speaker 1>went to school with, so I knew Putty. He walked

0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:34.840
<v Speaker 1>into my video shop with a red T shirt with

0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:37.320
<v Speaker 1>his tan skin and his green eyes and his dark hair,

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:42.000
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh my god, my heart just

0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:47.400
<v Speaker 1>jumped out of my chest, going that guy is so hot. Right,

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:51.160
<v Speaker 1>So they came in, got their video left, and then

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, I don't this is not me stalking.

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I promise you. We were just going in the same

0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:59.040
<v Speaker 1>circles so he's four years older than me, but he'd

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:01.399
<v Speaker 1>already done a train right then he went back to

0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 1>UNI when I started UNI. So that's why we're at

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:05.879
<v Speaker 1>UNI the same time, because he's four years older than me.

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:09.880
<v Speaker 1>So we would see each other at the gym. Then

0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:12.359
<v Speaker 1>I would see him out at the havelock. And this

0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:15.960
<v Speaker 1>is when my crazy brain was like, oh my god,

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:18.359
<v Speaker 1>I really like this guy. I like this guy. So

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:24.240
<v Speaker 1>this is before Tinder, Facebook, Instagram, none of that existed, right,

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 1>this is before any of that. You could not stalk anyone.

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:29.560
<v Speaker 1>You don't know where they're going, unless you text them

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:30.960
<v Speaker 1>to see where they're going, unless.

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 2>You had to actually stalked them.

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I to physically stalk, like old school way. I would

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 1>go the havelock on a Thursday night and a Saturday night.

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I go, oh, what a coincidence you're here, old mate,

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Hailey Pierson in the bushes, Oh what a coincidence you're

0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:49.840
<v Speaker 1>at your house? And we became friends. We were really

0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:52.720
<v Speaker 1>good friends. And I never told him that I loved him,

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:56.320
<v Speaker 1>and I did a full psycho move, this is you're

0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna never look at me the same way again. We

0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:02.480
<v Speaker 1>both went to UNI. I went to UNISA to do journalism.

0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 1>He was at UNIESA in the city, but he also

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 1>did subjects out where I was in McGill. I knew

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 1>that he had classes in the city, so I lied

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:12.280
<v Speaker 1>and said to him, Oh, I've got a class in

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 1>the city as well. Oh and at lunchtime, what are

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 1>you doing for lunch? So I would bring my little

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:22.960
<v Speaker 1>unibag with my books in it into the city.

0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm such a loosome because you just wanted to

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 2>have lunch with him. It's not lazy.

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 1>You love getting emotional.

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Because it's like the beginning of those butterflies.

0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 1>And you literally know what it was is I really

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 1>loved him, and I didn't think he loved me.

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 2>My gosh, did I both have other partners? No?

0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:52.320
<v Speaker 1>I didn't he This is the moment that broke me.

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:52.640
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Can I just say the world? Oh my god? Ohm

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 1>emotional fuck. I have to film today. My makeup is running.

0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:04.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying this is unrequired love, but unrequited love

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 1>is really hard when you love someone.

0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, what is happening to us?

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I love somebody and they don't love you.

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 2>It's hot.

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I know.

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 2>You tell that story where you saw Jimmy and your

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 2>knees went weak.

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, I'll get to that. So we're at the gym.

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting really hot.

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 1>See, So I met the gym with him. At this point,

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I definitely felt like I loved him and we were talking.

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 1>This is the point we literally hung out. We'd been

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I'd been to his house. I dropped him home at

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 1>night after being gone out. We've been to Mount Lofty

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 1>at like midnight and had ice cream.

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:53.720
<v Speaker 2>I just don't want to leave each other.

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 1>It was light, were falling in love, but we were

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 1>just friends like nothing had happened. And then I was

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:00.360
<v Speaker 1>at the gym and I said, what did you do

0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 1>last night? And he said to me, oh, I was

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 1>at my I was at my girlfriend's graduation. And I'm like, oh, Jimmy,

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 1>why would you do this? I'm on sol and doesn't

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 1>make me cry. So this is a real thing. If

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:19.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm crying, we're broken it.

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:20.959
<v Speaker 2>We've broken you and me. We're broken.

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 1>My god, what's wrong with me? I'm not even pree minstrel.

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Fuck, you've caught pregnancy from me? Babe. Oh I'm sorry.

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh this is a real mess. So he hadn't cheated

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 1>on her or anything like that. We've never done anything.

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 1>We were friends, but I loved him, and at that moment,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Okay, I cannot put myself in this

0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:49.080
<v Speaker 1>position where I'm seeing this man that I love but

0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 1>he has a girlfriend. So I changed gyms and I

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<v Speaker 1>stopped seeing him. For maybe about a year and a

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<v Speaker 1>half or two years, I didn't see him. I was

0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:58.400
<v Speaker 1>like avoiding all the places and he would go. I

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:01.840
<v Speaker 1>changed him. I went to Burnside see him. I ended

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<v Speaker 1>up having another boyfriend. Anyway, there was one point that

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<v Speaker 1>I was in Melbourne with my best friend Lucy, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was standing on Chapel Street and randomly he was

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<v Speaker 1>in my phone as Latino. I don't know why, because

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was Latino, but he's actually half Indian

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<v Speaker 1>and that's a whole other sty that's a whole other story.

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<v Speaker 1>And I got a message from Latino and I looked

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<v Speaker 1>at my phone. This is two years later, and my

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 1>knees gave way and I literally fell onto the road

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<v Speaker 1>because my whole body was like, oh, oh God, I

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 1>just came in to hit you like a bus. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so hot. Anyway, from that moment on, I can't even

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<v Speaker 1>remember what he messaged me, but we started messaging again,

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 1>and one night we were out and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>at this bar, this girl came up to me and said,

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<v Speaker 1>can I kiss you? I'm not a lesbian, but I

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<v Speaker 1>want to kiss you. And I was like, no, mate,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a lesb And then five minutes later, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, fuck it, I'm going to do whatever I

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<v Speaker 1>want tonight. And I went up and I gave her

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 1>a little kiss, and then I went up to Jim

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I'm just gonna kiss you. I

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:12.280
<v Speaker 1>don't care, I'm just gonna kiss you. And we kissed.

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<v Speaker 1>And then from then on we were together. You were

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<v Speaker 1>in care and I remember I remember like being a

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 1>real loser and praying to my dead grandma that he

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:31.520
<v Speaker 1>would fall in love with me. I'm not coming down

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<v Speaker 1>my face.

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<v Speaker 2>What do we have to do to get a tissue around?

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<v Speaker 2>They're in the bathroom in the bottom drawer, guys, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just sending Moggie out cameraman to my bathroom, to the

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 2>bottom drawer. What could go wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway? So this is we've been married for twenty years

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<v Speaker 1>next year, and four years before that, we've been We've

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:57.600
<v Speaker 1>been together for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 2>What, oh my gosh, can you renew your vows so

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<v Speaker 2>I can come to your wedding because I wasn't at here.

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<v Speaker 1>The saddest thing that you I wasn't there. I love

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<v Speaker 1>you so much, and you wouldn't been one of my

0:34:11.040 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 1>prize mads. And you weren't even there.

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:14.279
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't invited, but I didn't know you.

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 1>You were in school.

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<v Speaker 2>No hard feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you so much. More so my love story,

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<v Speaker 1>I do it sounds so stupid, No, it's much stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think that I met him at the right

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 1>time and that he is the love of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it sounds stupid, like I sound so silly,

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 1>but I love like. I don't know. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why it works. I just think he was my person.

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:46.880
<v Speaker 2>He's your person. But if you'd gotten together two years prior,

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:49.840
<v Speaker 2>it wouldn't have worked. Maybe it wouldn't have worked. Yeah,

0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, you had to go through find other people,

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 2>see other people, do other things, and then find each other.

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:57.759
<v Speaker 2>And that's the same as Burge and I. We had

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<v Speaker 2>to do this journey and fight each other. Oh my god, love.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all that matters is that you are surrounded by

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:14.839
<v Speaker 1>the people that you love, whether it's romantic love or not.

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<v Speaker 1>You have got my scar all over your nose. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go on it. No, we need to go

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:28.480
<v Speaker 1>and really clean ourselves up onage film. Do have a

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:34.319
<v Speaker 1>shower together together, just like in genuinely you.

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:37.879
<v Speaker 2>Know you have a shower that I have a shower. Well,

0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:40.319
<v Speaker 2>that's been love stories. I don't even know what we

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<v Speaker 2>spoke about.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us your love story. We're always open for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I love hearing people's love stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And fight for the people that you love. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>love you Bye.