Speaker 1: Ad A lady, A lady, A lady, A lady filtered. Hello, Hello,
Speaker 1: it's your best ees, your friends, Hailey and Lauren. We
Speaker 1: are ad Lady, I'm filtered. We're besties. We're business partners
Speaker 1: and where the creators of ad Lady. Hello, I say,
Speaker 1: Hailo's Media and we do everything together except bang.
Speaker 2: You know that line. It's very funny. We got an
Speaker 2: email from our insurance guy, Adrian, and he's like trying
Speaker 2: to explain to the insurance company like they do everything
Speaker 2: but bang, so they're insurable.
Speaker 1: It's really awkward.
Speaker 2: It really made me laugh. It's true.
Speaker 1: Are we are we covered each other?
Speaker 2: Like ninety nine percent? Sure we're covered?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Are we covered? Are we covered? I don't know? Anyway,
Speaker 1: all right, we're going to start this podcast with our
Speaker 1: member of the week. You have a douzy.
Speaker 2: Well, Hailey Pearson, you are going to Thailand with my
Speaker 2: partner Burjo.
Speaker 1: That sounds really salacious when you say like that.
Speaker 2: I don't know. There is a conference over in Thailand
Speaker 2: that we have hosted for years and it is amazing
Speaker 2: and I can't go because I just can't be thirty
Speaker 2: weeks pregnant in Thailand. The thought of that gives me anxiety.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is fair enough. And so we thought, well,
Speaker 1: who am I going to do this with? And the
Speaker 1: next best option plan B B for Burjo, B for Berjo.
Speaker 2: He's in media, he loves a chat, loves a drink,
Speaker 2: loves to party.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, if you don't know us and you
Speaker 1: just saw that on paper that I'm going overseas with
Speaker 1: your partner, it's pretty weird, right.
Speaker 2: Do you know what's weirder? I'm moving into your house
Speaker 2: with your husband.
Speaker 1: You will go over there for dinner, and that's fine.
Speaker 1: But I will say I've been friends with Burjo longer
Speaker 1: than I've been friends with you.
Speaker 2: I know you two used to bitch about me when
Speaker 2: I was your producer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you used to have really long nails and
Speaker 1: you put them along the blackboard like you were like
Speaker 1: you when you were twenty. You look like you were
Speaker 1: fifty in that light. Not that you looked old in
Speaker 1: the face, but you acted like full shoulder pads brief case.
Speaker 1: You walked into that radio station like you were Miranda
Speaker 1: from Devils Grata.
Speaker 2: Well, I was, I have my little shoulder pads on
Speaker 2: that I'd probably bought a blazer from soup prey because
Speaker 2: times were tough, and Burgeon.
Speaker 1: I would go, oh god, she's wearing a shoulder pads.
Speaker 2: Here, she goes, what does she want now? No, so
Speaker 2: you guys are going away for six days, right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I am afraid of the dark. So I'm thinking about
Speaker 2: moving in with my parents.
Speaker 1: Thought, Hang, you've lived here by yourself before. Burgo was
Speaker 1: living here for years and you were fine. You used
Speaker 1: to go outside of you heard a noise with a bat.
Speaker 2: I used to be so strong.
Speaker 1: What's happened? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm now like the thought of being alone in my
Speaker 2: house and having to be like the full time parent,
Speaker 2: like and look after Sophia.
Speaker 1: You actually have to do something now.
Speaker 2: I can't do it.
Speaker 1: I can. That's what it is. It's not that you
Speaker 1: scare the dark, is that you don't want to look
Speaker 1: after child on your.
Speaker 2: I don't want a parent, No. I just get afraid
Speaker 2: being by myself these days, which I never.
Speaker 1: Used to be. Do you know you were so fierce
Speaker 1: when you were living in this house and you bought
Speaker 1: this house all by yourself, living here with your baby girl,
Speaker 1: and you were so strong and fierce.
Speaker 2: I think it's the pregnancy thing. Again. It's the imposter
Speaker 2: syndrome thing. I've been going through, the doubting myself. But
Speaker 2: I used to be afraid of the dark, and then
Speaker 2: I got so strong, and now I feel like I
Speaker 2: don't want to be by myself again, Like that is
Speaker 2: making me anxious. So while you guys are holidaying in Pouquette,
Speaker 2: I might move in with mum and dad. And it's
Speaker 2: also like a holiday, you know. In the mornings, I
Speaker 2: get up hold from Mom, what do you want for
Speaker 2: dinner tonight? I'm like, oh, I'm just do a pravd can.
Speaker 1: When we just talk about that as an adult, going
Speaker 1: to your mum and dad's house, isn't it funny how
Speaker 1: we walk through that door and we revert to being
Speaker 1: a child. I sit on the couch, Dad massages my feet,
Speaker 1: Mum goes, what do you want and makes me whatever
Speaker 1: I want.
Speaker 2: In the kitchen we are children again. Do you want
Speaker 2: a banana cake tonight?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: God, I would love.
Speaker 1: A bananas It is just the nicest thing.
Speaker 2: So I think maybe it's just me pretending I'm scared,
Speaker 2: just so I can go home and have a bit
Speaker 2: of a holiday.
Speaker 1: You know, you just want for dinner?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And dadd wud takes a fear on adventures and
Speaker 2: I can just lay on the couch and have grapes.
Speaker 1: Drop into my mouth. Lazy. All right, here's my member
Speaker 1: of the week. I'm feeling really good this year. I
Speaker 1: feel like last year I was robotic, I was doing
Speaker 1: too much, and this year I feel like I'm starting
Speaker 1: my day with a walk, come back, have brecky. It's
Speaker 1: a really nice time. But this morning, my oldest son
Speaker 1: happened to be at basketball really early. So Jimmy and
Speaker 1: I are walking and I looked at my phone halfway
Speaker 1: through our walk, and I had fifty eight messages. I'm
Speaker 1: not joking, fifty eight from our eleven year old outfeet.
Speaker 1: I'll just read. I won't read all fifty eight because
Speaker 1: it will take a couple of poos.
Speaker 2: We'll be here until next week.
Speaker 1: This is legit. I just woke up and no one
Speaker 1: is home. Where is everybody? New message? Help me? New message? Mom,
Speaker 1: New message? Mom, Mom, Mom, Mom, mom, mom, mom, Please
Speaker 1: help me. I just woke up and no one is home.
Speaker 1: Where are you? Where is everyone? Help me? Mum? Then
Speaker 1: he copy and pasted it. I'm just going to show
Speaker 1: you the screenshot, copy and paste, copy and paste. It
Speaker 1: goes on and on and on, and then by the
Speaker 1: time I saw it, I said, baby, we're walking and
Speaker 1: he said, but what do I do? And I said, shower,
Speaker 1: get dressed, and we'll be home in tent And he said, okay.
Speaker 2: I like what he's so dramatic, are we?
Speaker 1: I love you goes to the worst every time he's
Speaker 1: so dramatic, and I can't work out because he's really funny.
Speaker 1: I'm like, are you just taking the business this is
Speaker 1: a funny thing, or are you actually anxious? Like do
Speaker 1: you think you're going to die? I think it's he
Speaker 1: thinks he's going to die, which we've discussed on a
Speaker 1: previous podcast.
Speaker 2: Anyway, morbid brain hashtag, yeah, Brin.
Speaker 1: And that's not even he doesn't even have a phone.
Speaker 1: This is on his laptop. He's sitting there on his
Speaker 1: laptop like he's doing a business meeting, typing to me.
Speaker 1: We haven't even done our shopping. This is what we're
Speaker 1: talking about today.
Speaker 2: So we're going to talk about Devil wes Pridor because
Speaker 2: everyone's talking about at the moment quickly, and then we're
Speaker 2: going to talk about our love stories, how we found
Speaker 2: our ways to our partners.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you are like Laurens thirty seven, I'm forty four,
Speaker 1: if you are in your single era and you're like,
Speaker 1: how do I meet that one? How do I meet them? Now,
Speaker 1: we're going to tell you our story and it might
Speaker 1: give you a couple of ideas of how you can
Speaker 1: potentially meet your love of you.
Speaker 2: Boy boy, is it a journey?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yours is up and down and up and down, up.
Speaker 2: And down and up and down? All right? Random talk to.
Speaker 1: Me, Okay, devil whrez Frida. I have been so excited
Speaker 1: to see this movie. I love this movie so much,
Speaker 1: number one and it came out. I cannot believe this
Speaker 1: twenty years ago?
Speaker 2: Did it?
Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy? And the fact that they've got all
Speaker 1: the cast back, like the core cast, and they look
Speaker 1: just as good, if not better than they looked twenty
Speaker 1: years ago. They're all back, which is amazing. Money and
Speaker 1: plastic surgery for you, Yeah, but good plastic surgery. Like
Speaker 1: i'd say, Anne Hathaway, you look at her face and
Speaker 1: you're like, I can't tell, Like you have to have
Speaker 1: had something dumb, but I can't tell. It's that good.
Speaker 1: She looks like her face moves, but she still looks
Speaker 1: really young.
Speaker 2: How old would she be an out of Reckon, she'd be.
Speaker 1: My ade Rekon? Or can she be forty four? Maybe
Speaker 1: even forty five?
Speaker 2: Who's her?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And Meryl streets she is just a freaking queen.
Speaker 1: I think if I met her in real life, I
Speaker 1: would pass out in front of her because I'd be
Speaker 1: so nervous. She's so intimidating but so beautiful.
Speaker 2: And she'd look down at you with her glasses.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I want to talk about two things. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to do spoilers in case you haven't seen
Speaker 1: it yet, but I do want to talk about one
Speaker 1: thing because it relates to us. You haven't seen it
Speaker 1: because you don't like going to the movie.
Speaker 2: I don't I go to the movies, guys, because you
Speaker 2: can't talk in movies, and that gives me exciting.
Speaker 1: I like to talk.
Speaker 2: You do.
Speaker 1: You're like Alfie. That's why I regretted bringing him to
Speaker 1: that movie.
Speaker 2: Or I sleep The last time I went to a movie.
Speaker 2: I slept for fifty minutes. I woke up and I
Speaker 2: was like, who died? What happened?
Speaker 1: I know? I saw a photo your husband, Burdo, send
Speaker 1: it to me. Okay, Devil Wears Bright Up. This is
Speaker 1: a spoiler without being a spoiler. It's not giving it
Speaker 1: anything too much away. But in the first five minutes, Andy,
Speaker 1: who's the main character and Hathaway, is working for a
Speaker 1: paper and she's at an awards night and she's about
Speaker 1: to win an award. She's at a table of ten,
Speaker 1: all her colleagues, and right as she's about to get
Speaker 1: on stage with this award, they get a text message
Speaker 1: that says, you're redundant. You've been made redundant, and so
Speaker 1: the whole table have just lost their jobs and she
Speaker 1: has to get up and accept this award, and she's like,
Speaker 1: I'm should be really happy right now, but my whole
Speaker 1: table have just been fired. And this is the scary
Speaker 1: thing about print media and that landscape which we are
Speaker 1: part of. We have an ad Lady magazine, which is
Speaker 1: a physical magazine, a coffee table book.
Speaker 2: You can smell it.
Speaker 1: It's delicious. The whole movie is basically about how that
Speaker 1: is dead and everyone is moving on to the digital era,
Speaker 1: which I love digital era. I love being on my
Speaker 1: phone and looking and scrolling, but if I'm reading a magazine,
Speaker 1: I feel like I need a physical copy. I can't
Speaker 1: even get a kindle or an iPad. I have to
Speaker 1: have the book.
Speaker 2: If I want to read a book, I read the book.
Speaker 2: I cannot read off a screen because screen takes me
Speaker 2: back to being at work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you always say this story. When we first
Speaker 1: started our magazine, they were dying. It was in the
Speaker 1: whole era of like, fuck, we're a magazine's going The.
Speaker 2: Week we started our Ade Lady magazine, three South Australian
Speaker 2: magazines in that week went fast. And we've been planning
Speaker 2: this magazine for like six months, Like it wasn't like
Speaker 2: let's start a magazine tomorrow. And then suddenly three weren't
Speaker 2: there anymore, and that was really scary, but we still
Speaker 2: went we're.
Speaker 1: Going to do this.
Speaker 2: It was the best decision we've ever made. It was
Speaker 2: I never want to not do the print magazine.
Speaker 1: Do you feel though, you know how this whole new
Speaker 1: generation of people, which I love, they're not they're not
Speaker 1: drinking anymore, they don't buy a new fashion that's everything
Speaker 1: sustainable and they go back to records and the old
Speaker 1: school things. Do you think that maybe, and I'm hoping
Speaker 1: fingers crossed, we've had this whole like oh wow, everything's
Speaker 1: digital and now like, h No, I actually like the
Speaker 1: physical copy things like magazines will come back.
Speaker 2: I think there's always going to be a place for
Speaker 2: social media, like we love it Instagram, Facebook. There's always
Speaker 2: going to be stuff that's going to pop up. But
Speaker 2: I feel like print, books, records, all that old stuff
Speaker 2: is always going to be around, like the good old
Speaker 2: days of like the seventies and eighties and nineties. Like
Speaker 2: think about the music our kids and our kids' kids
Speaker 2: are going to listen to abba.
Speaker 1: But that's what they listen to. My kids, Yeah, listen
Speaker 1: to what I listened to as opposed to music of today.
Speaker 2: So the stuff that's happening now, because there's so much happening, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't feel like it's going to live on as
Speaker 2: long as the older stuff. So I think there's always
Speaker 2: going to be a place for TV, print everything.
Speaker 1: There's nothing better than opening a book or a magazine
Speaker 1: and just like that feel and you feel like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm in my little happy place. I'm about to escape
Speaker 1: the world and go into this book in front of
Speaker 1: me and you smell it, you smell the pages, and
Speaker 1: it's just so nice. On that though Andy made redundant,
Speaker 1: I did want to say this. This is so relatable
Speaker 1: right now. There are so many redundancies in our industry,
Speaker 1: in radio, in TV, it's everywhere. It's really sad. A
Speaker 1: lot of these massive buildings that were once full of
Speaker 1: people and a beehive of energy are now diminishing to nothing.
Speaker 1: You have flaws that are completely empty because people are
Speaker 1: being made redundant and being replaced by maybe it's AI,
Speaker 1: or they're just putting five people's workloads on one person.
Speaker 1: That's what's happening now. But when you get made redundant,
Speaker 1: sometimes it's the best thing that will ever happen to
Speaker 1: you because your brain can reset and you can go Actually,
Speaker 1: I know at first this is the worst thing in
Speaker 1: the world. I've lost all my confidence. But now I
Speaker 1: can actually work out what I really want, and you
Speaker 1: might go in a whole different path.
Speaker 2: When we started at a Lady exactly you were made redundant.
Speaker 2: I went crazy, it was like redundant, Well, it's true,
Speaker 2: and we had time to reset because often, you know,
Speaker 2: like some people take a gap year after school, or
Speaker 2: it's very rare in your adult life and career that
Speaker 2: you're forced to stop, yes, but being forced to stop
Speaker 2: gives you time to be creative and go what do
Speaker 2: I actually want to do? And that's where the best
Speaker 2: businesses come from. Like I just want to bake bread
Speaker 2: or I think about that. Lady we once met in
Speaker 2: McLaren Vale. She was retired and she got time to
Speaker 2: stop and think and she opened up a bakery because
Speaker 2: she loved baking and it turned into the most amazing,
Speaker 2: hustling and bustling bakery that she started when she was
Speaker 2: like seventy. She was like, I never wanted to do this. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't know it was going to turn into this,
Speaker 2: but here we are. She had time to think about it.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people who are in a job
Speaker 1: and they don't have the confidence. They're not brave enough
Speaker 1: to leave and try something that they've always wanted.
Speaker 2: To do there for years and it's all they know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so look at it if you I know, it's
Speaker 1: really hard, Okay. Colin's perfect example. She was reading the
Speaker 1: news on Channel nine for years and then she was
Speaker 1: made redundant. And it's a normal thing in media, this happens.
Speaker 1: In fact, you haven't been a media unless you have
Speaker 1: been made redundant. I know, right, But she's found this
Speaker 1: new lease on life. She's now doing a heap of
Speaker 1: other things that are feeling her bucket. She's doing pr
Speaker 1: she's doing Hallosa with us, She's doing all these other
Speaker 1: things that she probably would never have done if she
Speaker 1: hadn't have been made redundant. So sometimes it's a blessing.
Speaker 2: Being redundant is not the worst thing that can happen
Speaker 2: in life.
Speaker 1: Being made redundant. Being redundant is the worst thing that
Speaker 1: can happen in life.
Speaker 2: You're redundant.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be redundant.
Speaker 2: You're redundant.
Speaker 1: You're dead to me.
Speaker 2: Okay, no, but remember when I came back from having Sofia,
Speaker 2: I felt redundant in the business, and it was actually
Speaker 2: the worst thing ever. Like I have to have triggered
Speaker 2: right out. I thought, you didn't need me.
Speaker 1: No, you always need it.
Speaker 2: But it's your brain. You go to everything's running smooth,
Speaker 2: everything's fine. Oh my gosh, I don't need me, Oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, I'll go work for someone else. Yeah, baby,
Speaker 2: brain does weird shit to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, cost of living is really hard right now. So
Speaker 1: if this is happening to you, we totally understand that.
Speaker 1: It's like shit, what am I gonna do, but you
Speaker 1: will find your way and it will be fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll be all right.
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, we are about to talk love. We
Speaker 1: love love. I love love. I love love.
Speaker 2: I never used to love love.
Speaker 1: I know, I know you did. It was always there,
Speaker 1: but now you really feel it. I had a situation
Speaker 1: this week where I feel like I fell in love
Speaker 1: with my husband all over again, and I know he
Speaker 1: felt the same. And it was because he had a
Speaker 1: general ascetic. He was drugged, highly drugged, like I'm serious.
Speaker 1: He went under to have a little operation, and while
Speaker 1: that was happening, I was so stressed, thinking, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: what if he doesn't wake up? This is like what
Speaker 1: And then when I picked him up from the thing,
Speaker 1: we just hugged and got into the lift and kissed.
Speaker 1: This is something you don't really do when you've been
Speaker 1: together for twenty years. Just like embrace, you made out,
Speaker 1: We gave yeah, we had a little kiss in the
Speaker 1: hell up and then that nineties just like I could
Speaker 1: tell you know when you just go he's just hugging
Speaker 1: and touching and just like just appreciate you so much.
Speaker 1: And I think when you when you're in that situation,
Speaker 1: you know, you do take your partner for granted a
Speaker 1: little bit because it's normal so.
Speaker 2: Much because you're like what everyone aspires to be, love
Speaker 2: each other and find each other sexy and funny. After
Speaker 2: twenty years, I got a craig.
Speaker 1: It is weird, isn't it. Anyway, we thought, oh God,
Speaker 1: I don't know where this is going to go to.
Speaker 1: Lawrence already lost it. We're going to talk about love
Speaker 1: because we thought, if you are single and you're trying
Speaker 1: to find someone, whether it be a boy or a girl,
Speaker 1: we're going to share our love stories and maybe it
Speaker 1: will give you a little bit of hope because mine
Speaker 1: was more smooth sailing than Laurence, but we still ended
Speaker 1: up in the same place. So let's start with your story.
Speaker 2: All right, how long? How long do we have?
Speaker 1: We don't have that long, so an edited version.
Speaker 2: Okay version. So I used to produce you and Burgo
Speaker 2: back in the day safm Days Michael Haley and Burjo show,
Speaker 2: like what fifteen years ago, and I didn't really like Burgo,
Speaker 2: like we were friends and then we weren't friends. We've
Speaker 2: had a really like up and down, especially at the
Speaker 2: beginning relationship which you were part of. From the beginning.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about the first moment that Burgo started.
Speaker 1: And there's the first night you met him and there
Speaker 1: were two new guys and you were on a dance
Speaker 1: floor and you knew one of them was gay.
Speaker 2: And one of them was straight, and we happened to
Speaker 2: be at a party and I just Burgo rocked up
Speaker 2: and I just started like slut dropping on the dance
Speaker 2: dance floor and being so wild to him. And then
Speaker 2: we got to work on the Monday, and I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, you're not the gay one, You're the
Speaker 2: straight one. Because then I met Christian Hull, who was
Speaker 2: my assistant producer, and he was clearly gay, and I went, oh,
Speaker 2: my gosh, I'm so embarrassed. So Burgo's just like, well,
Speaker 2: this chick's into me. This is nice. She's very forward.
Speaker 2: But from then we stopped working at the station. We
Speaker 2: didn't see each other for a really long time.
Speaker 1: You were very nice at the beginning to each other,
Speaker 1: and I think it was more there was obviously always
Speaker 1: something there, because there's a really fine line between love
Speaker 1: and hate and very fine, and it was that you like,
Speaker 1: he would pick on things, but I was always like
Speaker 1: you'd like her like you definitely like that girl you
Speaker 1: were with someone, so I don't think you were looking
Speaker 1: at him the same way.
Speaker 2: And then my partner at the time didn't like Burgo
Speaker 2: because I think he always thought that there was something
Speaker 2: going on which there wasn't.
Speaker 1: Because he would come to your house as friends and
Speaker 1: just rock up for.
Speaker 2: Dinner all the time, would hang out. We would hang
Speaker 2: out all the time. We were just like he'd pick
Speaker 2: me up from my apartment and go do Manie's down
Speaker 2: Heinley Street, listening to loud music together and nothing would happen.
Speaker 2: But then slowly something started to happen, and I think
Speaker 2: you were away and I called you to tell you
Speaker 2: that we'd kissed and you'd.
Speaker 1: Had a dream, a dream I knew. When you told me,
Speaker 1: I was like, I know what you're about to say.
Speaker 1: I know you kissed Bergo, didn't you? And you did?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. We've always been in things.
Speaker 1: Like so weird.
Speaker 2: And then from then we got together and Bergo won
Speaker 2: the Green Card Lottery. So just as we got together,
Speaker 2: he won the Green Card Lottery, which he'd been trying
Speaker 2: to win forever, which means you can go to America
Speaker 2: and work and live like a citizen because his mum's America.
Speaker 1: And this is something knowing Bergo for a very long time,
Speaker 1: this is something he'd always wanted and his dream was
Speaker 1: always to do radio in America. Yeah, and then he
Speaker 1: met you, and so getting the green card was like, well,
Speaker 1: what do I do?
Speaker 2: So he went. I was like, don't change your life
Speaker 2: for me. You go do Brokey radio in Seattle, do
Speaker 2: your thing. And I was like, whatever you go. I'm
Speaker 2: not even going to come because I'm not going to
Speaker 2: miss you. And I tried to play it really cool,
Speaker 2: and within three weeks I was over there. I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I really miss you. And we tried the
Speaker 2: long distance thing and in the end he gave up
Speaker 2: his green card to move home, to which we got engaged,
Speaker 2: bought a house, did everything quite quick. Planning the wedding
Speaker 2: you did.
Speaker 1: Both of you run on dopamine, so you're the same.
Speaker 1: Normally in a relationship, there's one person that's more logical,
Speaker 1: but you guys are the same. So when you get
Speaker 1: your heart set on something, you decided one day, one morning,
Speaker 1: let's get a puppy. By that afternoon, you'd already picked
Speaker 1: up a puppy in Port Augusta or whatever the hell
Speaker 1: you went. And I love that you're like that, you
Speaker 1: both you're both the same.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have the same brain. And then it was
Speaker 2: twenty twenty. I was supposed to be getting married on
Speaker 2: my birthday, March twenty one, getting married, and three days
Speaker 2: before the wedding, scomo said nothing over one hundred people,
Speaker 2: no events, so we had to cancel our wedding. And
Speaker 2: I never forget that. I remember that night we got
Speaker 2: so drunk with our bridesmaids and our groomsman's and just
Speaker 2: forgot about it. Lost money. It was horrific. So many
Speaker 2: people went through this, didn't get married. Then we broke
Speaker 2: up for a couple of weeks, a couple of months,
Speaker 2: a couple of months, a couple of months, or a
Speaker 2: couple of months. Then we got back together.
Speaker 1: Doude, do you want to share why you broke up?
Speaker 1: Or I think do you remember? You don't remember? Do
Speaker 1: you put you block alive?
Speaker 2: I blows a lot of things out, but I do
Speaker 2: genuinely think Burge and I were very similar. We're very
Speaker 2: fiery people, and we both weren't the best versions of ourselves.
Speaker 1: And you would often bring out the worst in each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but when you were good, it was so good.
Speaker 2: And when we were bad, we were bad. And then
Speaker 2: we got back together and I got pregnant and we
Speaker 2: had Sofia and it was the best thing ever. And
Speaker 2: then a few months into having a baby, when your
Speaker 2: brain is all crazy and it's not good, we broke
Speaker 2: up again, and for this time we were not together
Speaker 2: for a long time. I lived home, and then I
Speaker 2: bought this house and he has a house, and we
Speaker 2: were trying to co parent and do that thing of
Speaker 2: the respectfulness to our child, who we both loved more
Speaker 2: than anything. He is an amazing dad. I was trying
Speaker 2: to be the best mum I could possibly be, and
Speaker 2: on the outside people were looking and it was so
Speaker 2: weird because we traveled together, we hung out together, we
Speaker 2: had all of our families and everyone around, because our
Speaker 2: biggest thing was we never wanted Sofia to see anything,
Speaker 2: and we just wanted her to feel.
Speaker 1: Loved and from the outside, so you know, she never
Speaker 1: would she would never know. She was so happy going
Speaker 1: to her dad's house, her mum's house, and she would
Speaker 1: holiday with you both and see that you treated each
Speaker 1: other really respectfully. When you were guys were together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's a really nice thing to watch. And I
Speaker 1: think from the outside you both worked on yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so much. Yeah, it was a really hard time
Speaker 2: being a part and not seeing a child every day
Speaker 2: is something that you know, we should put anyone. Oh, Hailey,
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. I'm so emotional. But anyway, it slowly
Speaker 2: started to happen where we started to you know, we were
Speaker 2: holiday and doing the parenting thing together, and we started
Speaker 2: to hang out a lot more, and we'd both gone
Speaker 2: away and we'd worked on ourselves. I think I was
Speaker 2: always relying on Burgo to make me happy, but I
Speaker 2: wasn't happy in my I had to be happy.
Speaker 1: Oh no, you're so sad.
Speaker 2: When you're sad, Betty's like, get away from my mom. Anyway,
Speaker 2: So we ended up getting back together and it's been
Speaker 2: the best thing that's ever happened. And I'm content and
Speaker 2: I'm happy. I mean, it doesn't look like I am now, No,
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 1: It's really nice and you're both you're both really happy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I love him lots, and I love the
Speaker 2: life that we've built. But sometimes and I just wouldn't
Speaker 2: say this since we've been back together. I've had a
Speaker 2: few people come up to me and say they've given
Speaker 2: me a hug and said, you've given me hope. Like
Speaker 2: they're having issues with their partners or they've just had kids,
Speaker 2: and everything gets put into their kids and the relationship
Speaker 2: gets forgotten about, and then suddenly you're three years down
Speaker 2: and there's no romantic spark and you're staring down the
Speaker 2: barrel of a divorce because you're taking everything out on
Speaker 2: that person. And I've had a few people say, thank you,
Speaker 2: You've given me hope. We can work on this, and
Speaker 2: you can. If you love someone, you could always work
Speaker 2: on it. And I think I had to go through
Speaker 2: the thing of relationships aren't perfect. They're not perfect one
Speaker 2: hundred percent of the time, and that is okay.
Speaker 1: But I also think you did a really smart thing
Speaker 1: that I know you regret it, but you did a
Speaker 1: smart thing by separating, because the worst thing would have
Speaker 1: been is when you were fiery and you weren't good together.
Speaker 1: You don't ever want so Fee to see that, and
Speaker 1: that would she would have seen that day to day.
Speaker 1: So you separated and you worked on yourselves individually, and
Speaker 1: you've come back together. And it does give people hope
Speaker 1: it does. You're so right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now I'm pregnant again and we're having a
Speaker 2: little baby and it's funny. So he's been calling me
Speaker 2: his wife on social so I've been getting all these
Speaker 2: messages from people going, oh, congratulations, you've got married. I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: I'm wearing the ring again because I'm like, you know,
Speaker 2: we're having our second child, we're living together. It's a thing.
Speaker 2: But it's happened quickly, but it hasn't, if you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. It's taken a long time to get
Speaker 2: to this point of feeling like we can fight and
Speaker 2: we can fight respectfully. It's something that I always used
Speaker 2: to say with you. You and Jimmy have always loved
Speaker 2: each other and had that respect for each other. And
Speaker 2: it's like you and I, we're like a marriage, and
Speaker 2: you fight, but you fight respectfully fight.
Speaker 1: So well, you and I. When I say we fight,
Speaker 1: we don't really fight of them. But when we do
Speaker 1: have disagreements, we do it how all married couple should
Speaker 1: because it's done with respect.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and it's not escalated and taken to this
Speaker 2: horrible spot which we used to do. And now we've
Speaker 2: worked on ourselves and don't do And you know, if
Speaker 2: I fire up, burgo goes, look, we don't do that anymore.
Speaker 1: She's what she just said something that I think is
Speaker 1: so true. You said that it's not blaming him. You
Speaker 1: needed to work on yourself. It's the same with you.
Speaker 1: Maybe if you aren't in a great situation with your partner.
Speaker 1: You both individually need to love yourself before you love
Speaker 1: each other. You have to.
Speaker 2: You can't rely on someone else to make you happy.
Speaker 2: I wasn't happy. I was chasing something. I don't know
Speaker 2: what I was chasing. And then there was resentment, like
Speaker 2: you should be there making me happy. You can't pick
Speaker 2: that fight. You can't do that, and I'd get angry
Speaker 2: and our fights would escalate really quickly, and I don't
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: You don't do that anymore. And if you do do that,
Speaker 1: you go, hey, we don't do this anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you are going to be put to the test
Speaker 1: again when you have a baby, and you're going to
Speaker 1: be all over the place and you're not going to
Speaker 1: be doing your work, which I know brings you heaps
Speaker 1: of happiness. Yeah, it's stressful. And having a baby is
Speaker 1: when couples do fight with each other. Yeah, and they
Speaker 1: do lose that connection. So you're about to be put
Speaker 1: to the test again, but this time you've learned from
Speaker 1: what happened last time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so yesterday was it?
Speaker 1: Yesterday?
Speaker 2: The day before I woke up saying, let's sell our
Speaker 2: house and buy a new house, because that's the dope
Speaker 2: mean in my brain, because I saw a house that
Speaker 2: I liked. So it's like, let's sell our house and
Speaker 2: like the next week and then buy another house, all
Speaker 2: before we have a baby in a few weeks. Anyway,
Speaker 2: Burge and I were talking. I was like, Okay, I've
Speaker 2: got the window cleaner's coming, the paint is coming, this coming,
Speaker 2: everything's happening by tomorrow. And he goes, we just need
Speaker 2: to calm down. We need to come down. Everything's moving
Speaker 2: so quickly. And then I hung up on him. This
Speaker 2: is just before the podcast. And then I just wrote back,
Speaker 2: do you know what, nothing matters because we love each
Speaker 2: other and that's the main thing, right And he goes, exactly,
Speaker 2: we're back, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like, yes, I myself going crazy.
Speaker 2: When I start to like escalate it in my brain,
Speaker 2: I'm like, maybe I am being an idiot. Yeah, let's
Speaker 2: bring it down in the end, I don't care if
Speaker 2: we live in a bus stop, long as our family
Speaker 2: are healthy, kid is healthy, and we've got each other.
Speaker 1: Well, that was the rollercoaster love story.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: That that is a very different love story than my
Speaker 1: love story.
Speaker 2: Yours involved stalking mine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, mine. My story starts from when I was
Speaker 1: traw nineteen, I reckon even eighteen at the gym and
Speaker 1: I would go to the perfect Fit Mitchem and I
Speaker 1: started seeing this guy at the gym occasionally. He said
Speaker 1: he noticed me first, which is weird because I became
Speaker 1: the stalker. But I was also working at Video Easy
Speaker 1: and Hunger, and he walked in one night, one Friday
Speaker 1: night with Putty, who's his best mate and who I
Speaker 1: went to school with, so I knew Putty. He walked
Speaker 1: into my video shop with a red T shirt with
Speaker 1: his tan skin and his green eyes and his dark hair,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, my heart just
Speaker 1: jumped out of my chest, going that guy is so hot. Right,
Speaker 1: So they came in, got their video left, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I don't this is not me stalking.
Speaker 1: I promise you. We were just going in the same
Speaker 1: circles so he's four years older than me, but he'd
Speaker 1: already done a train right then he went back to
Speaker 1: UNI when I started UNI. So that's why we're at
Speaker 1: UNI the same time, because he's four years older than me.
Speaker 1: So we would see each other at the gym. Then
Speaker 1: I would see him out at the havelock. And this
Speaker 1: is when my crazy brain was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I really like this guy. I like this guy. So
Speaker 1: this is before Tinder, Facebook, Instagram, none of that existed, right,
Speaker 1: this is before any of that. You could not stalk anyone.
Speaker 1: You don't know where they're going, unless you text them
Speaker 1: to see where they're going, unless.
Speaker 2: You had to actually stalked them.
Speaker 1: I to physically stalk, like old school way. I would
Speaker 1: go the havelock on a Thursday night and a Saturday night.
Speaker 1: I go, oh, what a coincidence you're here, old mate,
Speaker 1: Hailey Pierson in the bushes, Oh what a coincidence you're
Speaker 1: at your house? And we became friends. We were really
Speaker 1: good friends. And I never told him that I loved him,
Speaker 1: and I did a full psycho move, this is you're
Speaker 1: gonna never look at me the same way again. We
Speaker 1: both went to UNI. I went to UNISA to do journalism.
Speaker 1: He was at UNIESA in the city, but he also
Speaker 1: did subjects out where I was in McGill. I knew
Speaker 1: that he had classes in the city, so I lied
Speaker 1: and said to him, Oh, I've got a class in
Speaker 1: the city as well. Oh and at lunchtime, what are
Speaker 1: you doing for lunch? So I would bring my little
Speaker 1: unibag with my books in it into the city.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm such a loosome because you just wanted to
Speaker 2: have lunch with him. It's not lazy.
Speaker 1: You love getting emotional.
Speaker 2: Because it's like the beginning of those butterflies.
Speaker 1: And you literally know what it was is I really
Speaker 1: loved him, and I didn't think he loved me.
Speaker 2: My gosh, did I both have other partners? No?
Speaker 1: I didn't he This is the moment that broke me.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Can I just say the world? Oh my god? Ohm
Speaker 1: emotional fuck. I have to film today. My makeup is running.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is unrequired love, but unrequited love
Speaker 1: is really hard when you love someone.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what is happening to us?
Speaker 1: I love somebody and they don't love you.
Speaker 2: It's hot.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: You tell that story where you saw Jimmy and your
Speaker 2: knees went weak.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, I'll get to that. So we're at the gym.
Speaker 2: I'm getting really hot.
Speaker 1: See, So I met the gym with him. At this point,
Speaker 1: I definitely felt like I loved him and we were talking.
Speaker 1: This is the point we literally hung out. We'd been
Speaker 1: I'd been to his house. I dropped him home at
Speaker 1: night after being gone out. We've been to Mount Lofty
Speaker 1: at like midnight and had ice cream.
Speaker 2: I just don't want to leave each other.
Speaker 1: It was light, were falling in love, but we were
Speaker 1: just friends like nothing had happened. And then I was
Speaker 1: at the gym and I said, what did you do
Speaker 1: last night? And he said to me, oh, I was
Speaker 1: at my I was at my girlfriend's graduation. And I'm like, oh, Jimmy,
Speaker 1: why would you do this? I'm on sol and doesn't
Speaker 1: make me cry. So this is a real thing. If
Speaker 1: I'm crying, we're broken it.
Speaker 2: We've broken you and me. We're broken.
Speaker 1: My god, what's wrong with me? I'm not even pree minstrel.
Speaker 2: Fuck, you've caught pregnancy from me? Babe. Oh I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Oh this is a real mess. So he hadn't cheated
Speaker 1: on her or anything like that. We've never done anything.
Speaker 1: We were friends, but I loved him, and at that moment,
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I cannot put myself in this
Speaker 1: position where I'm seeing this man that I love but
Speaker 1: he has a girlfriend. So I changed gyms and I
Speaker 1: stopped seeing him. For maybe about a year and a
Speaker 1: half or two years, I didn't see him. I was
Speaker 1: like avoiding all the places and he would go. I
Speaker 1: changed him. I went to Burnside see him. I ended
Speaker 1: up having another boyfriend. Anyway, there was one point that
Speaker 1: I was in Melbourne with my best friend Lucy, and
Speaker 1: I was standing on Chapel Street and randomly he was
Speaker 1: in my phone as Latino. I don't know why, because
Speaker 1: I thought he was Latino, but he's actually half Indian
Speaker 1: and that's a whole other sty that's a whole other story.
Speaker 1: And I got a message from Latino and I looked
Speaker 1: at my phone. This is two years later, and my
Speaker 1: knees gave way and I literally fell onto the road
Speaker 1: because my whole body was like, oh, oh God, I
Speaker 1: just came in to hit you like a bus. I'm
Speaker 1: so hot. Anyway, from that moment on, I can't even
Speaker 1: remember what he messaged me, but we started messaging again,
Speaker 1: and one night we were out and I was like,
Speaker 1: at this bar, this girl came up to me and said,
Speaker 1: can I kiss you? I'm not a lesbian, but I
Speaker 1: want to kiss you. And I was like, no, mate,
Speaker 1: I'm not a lesb And then five minutes later, I
Speaker 1: was like, fuck it, I'm going to do whatever I
Speaker 1: want tonight. And I went up and I gave her
Speaker 1: a little kiss, and then I went up to Jim
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm just gonna kiss you. I
Speaker 1: don't care, I'm just gonna kiss you. And we kissed.
Speaker 1: And then from then on we were together. You were
Speaker 1: in care and I remember I remember like being a
Speaker 1: real loser and praying to my dead grandma that he
Speaker 1: would fall in love with me. I'm not coming down
Speaker 1: my face.
Speaker 2: What do we have to do to get a tissue around?
Speaker 2: They're in the bathroom in the bottom drawer, guys, I'm
Speaker 2: just sending Moggie out cameraman to my bathroom, to the
Speaker 2: bottom drawer. What could go wrong.
Speaker 1: Anyway? So this is we've been married for twenty years
Speaker 1: next year, and four years before that, we've been We've
Speaker 1: been together for a very long time.
Speaker 2: What, oh my gosh, can you renew your vows so
Speaker 2: I can come to your wedding because I wasn't at here.
Speaker 1: The saddest thing that you I wasn't there. I love
Speaker 1: you so much, and you wouldn't been one of my
Speaker 1: prize mads. And you weren't even there.
Speaker 2: It wasn't invited, but I didn't know you.
Speaker 1: You were in school.
Speaker 2: No hard feeling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much. More so my love story,
Speaker 1: I do it sounds so stupid, No, it's much stupid.
Speaker 1: I do think that I met him at the right
Speaker 1: time and that he is the love of my life.
Speaker 1: I know it sounds stupid, like I sound so silly,
Speaker 1: but I love like. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: why it works. I just think he was my person.
Speaker 2: He's your person. But if you'd gotten together two years prior,
Speaker 2: it wouldn't have worked. Maybe it wouldn't have worked. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, you had to go through find other people,
Speaker 2: see other people, do other things, and then find each other.
Speaker 2: And that's the same as Burge and I. We had
Speaker 2: to do this journey and fight each other. Oh my god, love.
Speaker 1: Do you know what at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: that's all that matters is that you are surrounded by
Speaker 1: the people that you love, whether it's romantic love or not.
Speaker 1: You have got my scar all over your nose. All right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go on it. No, we need to go
Speaker 1: and really clean ourselves up onage film. Do have a
Speaker 1: shower together together, just like in genuinely you.
Speaker 2: Know you have a shower that I have a shower. Well,
Speaker 2: that's been love stories. I don't even know what we
Speaker 2: spoke about.
Speaker 1: Tell us your love story. We're always open for it.
Speaker 2: I love hearing people's love stories.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And fight for the people that you love. Yeah,
Speaker 1: love you Bye.