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Speaker 1: Spoke about this briefly a bit earlier with Frank Pangelo,

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Speaker 1: and that is the company that organizers freight rail freight Horizon.

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Speaker 1: They're the biggest train freight company or operator i should

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Speaker 1: say in Australia shifting freight around on rail. And they

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Speaker 1: have stopped rail deliveries of iron ore to the Wyala

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Speaker 1: Steel Works because like a lot of contractors operating around Wyala,

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Speaker 1: they haven't been paid and they haven't been paid for

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Speaker 1: previous services. So they have said to GfG, so Wyaler

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Speaker 1: Steel Works, no more train deliveries until you pay us

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Speaker 1: what you owe us. Now this presents a problem to

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Speaker 1: say the least. The ore from the middle back rangers

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Speaker 1: processed at Whaler steel Works exported to Asia goes through

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Speaker 1: the mill and I presume through the blast furnace as well,

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Speaker 1: which has been off for the last five weeks. And

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Speaker 1: the company losing a million dollars a day is a

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Speaker 1: road result. You have to ask how long can that

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Speaker 1: go on? And now without all being delivered nothing to export.

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Speaker 1: The export business was a money owner for sanjiv Gutpa.

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Speaker 1: Where to next, Tom Antonio, former mayor in Wayala, Tom,

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Speaker 1: I imagine the locals hanging out for some good news.

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Speaker 1: This is the worst possible news.

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Speaker 2: Well it's part of bad news of course, anything that happens,

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Speaker 2: but this is bad news. But you know, it's very

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Speaker 2: sad because we had country cabinet here this week on

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Speaker 2: Monday and it was just I think it was just

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Speaker 2: a sin. I mean, the real issues weren't addressed. It

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Speaker 2: was supposed to be a town hall meeting with all

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Speaker 2: the public environed, and that never happened. Yet the mail

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Speaker 2: an Ounsis government went to Victor Harbor and had a

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Speaker 2: barbecue with all the community. Now you would think that

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Speaker 2: the most important thing on the state's of gender would

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Speaker 2: be made sure our contractors would be paid. Just to

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Speaker 2: have no control over what sange Guta does because it's

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Speaker 2: a private business, so they can't tell him what to

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Speaker 2: do and who they're paid. But that's that's part of

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Speaker 2: the problem here right now. Now, you're right, the iron

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Speaker 2: ore is the biggest money. He's been the force on

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Speaker 2: your book there. If you look at how much money

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Speaker 2: he's made from the mind in since he's had their business,

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Speaker 2: it's something in the tune of about seven billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: He's paid the state government in royalties two point two

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty three million goals in rowty. Yes, he

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Speaker 2: hasn't paid any royalties either. What period I think maybe

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Speaker 2: a year or two, I understand it. And the state

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Speaker 2: government's commitment is that, hey, we're not really concerned. We

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Speaker 2: paid our ruties. We'll get that. Our commitments make sure

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Speaker 2: the contractors are getting paid. Well, let me tell you

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Speaker 2: it's not happening.

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Speaker 1: Some have been paid though, haven't they.

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess they pick and choose. But these are

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Speaker 2: the major contractors. These are the people that make the

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Speaker 2: still works function. These are the people that get in

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Speaker 2: the iron or to the plant, to the jet is,

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Speaker 2: to the ships to get an export. Well, that's what

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Speaker 2: the rising does, being that they ship the iron ore

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Speaker 2: from the mind by rail into Wyala and now it goes.

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Speaker 2: Now the furnace has been offline for six months. Now

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Speaker 2: it is in dire strait the furnace. Look, they're saying

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Speaker 2: it would be up in the week or two weeks.

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Speaker 2: We're hearing all this thing all the time. Now. The

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Speaker 2: exclusion of Whiler community from the country cabinet on issues

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Speaker 2: impacting on Waler and such a crucial moment. It's on

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Speaker 2: the working class community. It just looks silly mail in US.

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Speaker 2: The government just put out a carefully scripted media opportunity,

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Speaker 2: which only deepens the wireless frustration and reinforces the perception

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Speaker 2: that decisions have been made behind closed doors with our

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Speaker 2: general community input. The unknowing cycle of big promises with

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Speaker 2: little follow true has understanding road of trust within the community,

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Speaker 2: and the lack of transparency only fuels the issues of

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Speaker 2: Tecnian Whaler is only I mean, the greatest spin spin

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Speaker 2: they have come across in the forty years that I've

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Speaker 2: sort of to be involved in local politics. Peter no

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Speaker 2: anounces he's just a silver tongue sinner. I mean, we

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Speaker 2: need to get the whole community involved, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, I reckon he would care about the jobs in

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Speaker 1: Wyela though that still works though Tom Antonio, So what

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Speaker 1: was that? I think he would care very much about

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Speaker 1: the jobs.

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Speaker 2: I think he would. Well, therefore, why wasn't the whole

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Speaker 2: community involved in the public forum and he could address

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Speaker 2: community and give the community the confidence he needed. If

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Speaker 2: he believes in where we're going, he needs to be

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Speaker 2: communicating with the community, not just the unions in the

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Speaker 2: room fulling union members or three or four people of

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Speaker 2: the channel of commerce or just a couple of people

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Speaker 2: from the council. The whole community is involved in this.

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Speaker 2: Whole community is suffering. There's mental health issues, there's stressed

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Speaker 2: people don't know what they're going to do. Do they

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Speaker 2: staying well or do they sell their homes? Do they

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Speaker 2: go looking for job somewhere else? Time afford to lose.

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Speaker 2: Are highly qualified still workers to go to Westron Australia

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Speaker 2: or they go to Victoria where we need to keep

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Speaker 2: those people here if we are to have a future.

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Speaker 1: All right, Tim Antoni, I appreciate your time. Thank you

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Speaker 1: all of this thanks former Deputy mayor in Wyala. So

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Speaker 1: the problems continue and Horizon, this is the rail freight company.

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Speaker 1: They run trains, they deliver freight and they have a

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Speaker 1: contract to take iron ore from the Middle Back Rangers

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Speaker 1: to the Whaler steel works. The problem is they haven't

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Speaker 1: been paid and so now they're saying Horizon, well, no

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Speaker 1: more train services, no more deliveries to the steel works

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Speaker 1: until we are paid what we rode. I imagine it's

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Speaker 1: quite a bit of money for them to have taken

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Speaker 1: that step. Haven't been paid for previous services. Now the

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Speaker 1: state government, the federal government for that matter, might be thinking, well,

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Speaker 1: do we need to bail out put tax payers money in.

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Speaker 1: They probably won't, the argument goes, because they'd be concerned

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Speaker 1: that that money might be used to prop up Sanjiv

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Speaker 1: Goutper's operations. Overseas. There's a fair bit of money that

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Speaker 1: moves around between plants reading about how GfG operates, so

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Speaker 1: pumping tax dollars into a private company may not benefit

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Speaker 1: that company's operations here in South Australia. And I think

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Speaker 1: all of us would agree we don't want our tax

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Speaker 1: dollars propping up GfG in you name it, what country

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Speaker 1: they're operating in around the world, and there's a few,

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Speaker 1: so it remains to be seen what happens here. But

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Speaker 1: not the best news for the steel works with or

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Speaker 1: not being delivered to the steel works from the Middleback

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Speaker 1: ranges not too far off, so how they're going to

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Speaker 1: get it there is going to be a problem for sure.

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Speaker 1: And for Sanjiv Goudpa, he'd want it there because exporting

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Speaker 1: is a money maker for him. That part of the

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Speaker 1: business makes its own. It all makes absolute sense when

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Speaker 1: it's operating, but losing a million dollars a day apparently

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Speaker 1: with the blast furnace not going now for five weeks,