WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 3 November

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<v Speaker 1>From the United States. This is Paul Murray Live GODA, Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Dallas, the Big D, the Triple D, the two.

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<v Speaker 2>One four, one of the great cities of the world,

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<v Speaker 2>in a spectacular state that is all USA, USA. We

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<v Speaker 2>are here at the start of what is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a history making week because America will decide which path.

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<v Speaker 1>It is going to take.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it going to choose Donald Trump, the biggest comeback

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<v Speaker 2>story in Western political history, certainly of this century, or

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<v Speaker 2>do they go for the current sitting Vice president in

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harricks. Our commitment to you all day, every day

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<v Speaker 2>is to be in every different pocket around the country

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<v Speaker 2>to give you the last bit of information and most importantly,

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to as many Americans as we possibly can,

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<v Speaker 2>big personalities with a big decision to make. Now, as always,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to focus not just on what's happening here

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<v Speaker 2>in the United States, but I want you to know

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<v Speaker 2>that my eye is absolutely trained on what's happening in

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<v Speaker 2>Australia as well. It's not going to be wall to

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<v Speaker 2>all American politics with me telling you this specific statistic

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<v Speaker 2>and this little bit, although I could bore you with

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<v Speaker 2>that for hours and hours and hours. So right now

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday night in Australia, it's just gone four am here

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<v Speaker 2>in Texas. Who knows, we'll just pull like not an

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<v Speaker 2>all nighter, an all weaker. We've got all the energy,

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<v Speaker 2>all the focus, and we're ready to have a magnificent time.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm so glad that you're joining us wherever you

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<v Speaker 2>are around the country. So tonight on the program, I've

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<v Speaker 2>got to tell you about an incredible experience I had yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>College football.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't just play the games in mega stadiums, but

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<v Speaker 2>they have the parades. I was part of the parade

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<v Speaker 2>as the Ponies, the Mustangs. No, I have not changed

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<v Speaker 2>my affiliation in supercars. They are just party. They party

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<v Speaker 2>so cool, and it was a lot of fun to

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<v Speaker 2>have a chat with those people. You'll see a bit more.

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<v Speaker 2>The detail they put into their barbecue unbelievable. I have

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<v Speaker 2>sampled plenty mac and cheese on the side.

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<v Speaker 1>The biggest Coca Cola in the world. This is my

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<v Speaker 1>kind of place, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>We're also going to talk to Ross Greenwood, who is

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<v Speaker 2>just a couple of hours that way, at least by

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<v Speaker 2>a plane, but it's a long drive. He's in New

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<v Speaker 2>York City, where there were some protests yesterday. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the potential financial impacts of work decision they make

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<v Speaker 2>here now, as I say, Australian News in the moment

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<v Speaker 2>or two. But he's how I'm going to play this

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<v Speaker 2>every day between now an election day, and then it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be pretty obvious we'll only be talking about one after this.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to tell you the best news or the

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<v Speaker 2>good news for each of the candidates, because in a

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<v Speaker 2>fifty to fifty race, I don't want anyone to be

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<v Speaker 2>surprised when.

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<v Speaker 1>A particular result happens.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not going to play the SOOOKX game of the

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<v Speaker 2>Hillary Clinton world. I want you to know what is happening.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's start with Donald Trump. He has been doing

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<v Speaker 2>rallies every couple of hours.

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<v Speaker 1>He has been moving.

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<v Speaker 2>From state to state to state. The energy this guy

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<v Speaker 2>has is phenomenal to see. And don't forget the stakes

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<v Speaker 2>for him. He will be president of the United States

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<v Speaker 2>potentially by the end of the week, or he's on

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<v Speaker 2>a path to go to prison. He does not look

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<v Speaker 2>like a guy who is playing that sort of bet

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<v Speaker 2>at a casino. Instead, he looks like a man who

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<v Speaker 2>thinks he's playing with the bank's money when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to votes, and he thinks he's on his way back

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<v Speaker 2>to sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 1>But the best news.

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<v Speaker 2>For him today was the story you probably haven't heard about,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was a story that comes from Minnesota. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, we're keeping particular focus on the blue

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<v Speaker 2>Wall States.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, the blue Wall States are.

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<v Speaker 2>Always Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, but just next to that is Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 2>Both Minnesota and the other states have got significant Islamic populations.

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<v Speaker 2>And the best news for Trump was that yesterday Islamic

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<v Speaker 2>leaders came out and said fight, fight, Fight, They're all

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<v Speaker 2>in on Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of the key issues of the community are the

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<v Speaker 3>global wars and we're for peace. Economic issues, family values,

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<v Speaker 3>and education are some of the critical issues that.

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<v Speaker 4>This community cares.

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<v Speaker 3>On top of that, this community cares about the economic

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<v Speaker 3>issues and the inflation. With all this a number of

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<v Speaker 3>other issues, the community came together and fully is standing

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<v Speaker 3>behind President Donald J.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>The best news for Kamala Harris is just like Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>she is criss crossing the country rally after rally after rally,

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<v Speaker 2>celebrity after celebrity after celebrity. Whether that's going to work

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<v Speaker 2>this time when it didn't in twenty sixteen, we'll all

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<v Speaker 2>find out together. But the best news for her is

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<v Speaker 2>an earthquake in political news circles. This will dominate the

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<v Speaker 2>news amongst those who talk about politics, and it is

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<v Speaker 2>a poll from a state that we did not consider

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<v Speaker 2>to be a swing state or one that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be changing. It's the state of Iowa. Now, Iowa is

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<v Speaker 2>very small, as you know. To become the president, you

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<v Speaker 2>have to win the nomination first, and that means you

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<v Speaker 2>have to start the primary process in Iowa.

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<v Speaker 1>The lady who does.

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<v Speaker 2>This pole for the Des Moines Register, you could almost

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<v Speaker 2>bet your house on her. She was the polster who

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<v Speaker 2>put out just before the twenty sixteen election the canary

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<v Speaker 2>in the coal mine that Trump was going to do

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<v Speaker 2>well in that part of the US. Well, as you

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<v Speaker 2>can see, Harris has now flipped and is in the

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<v Speaker 2>lead right now in Iowa. If that happens, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>whole bunch of scenarios that I'll explain to you a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit later, but that is a sign that something

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<v Speaker 2>is happening inside that poll.

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<v Speaker 1>It shows that, of.

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<v Speaker 2>Course, more women voting than men, but it also shows

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<v Speaker 2>that Harris is leading with people over the age of

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five. Now, this is really interesting because, of course

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<v Speaker 2>the Trump campaign has been all over the bropod casts

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<v Speaker 2>and really trying to get to people sort of basically

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<v Speaker 2>between sort of twenty five and fifty five. But if

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five year olds, who generally might be tuning into

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<v Speaker 2>cable news the past week has been well, nothing but

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<v Speaker 2>dunking from the media and unsurprisingly as they're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get the result that they want, the pole of course

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<v Speaker 2>shows forty seven forty four in.

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<v Speaker 1>Favor of Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 2>And as I say, if that happens, this is what's

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<v Speaker 2>going to happen with the electoral map. As you can see,

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<v Speaker 2>Trump won the state and he won it just four

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. So the idea that Harris in the closing

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<v Speaker 2>days may well be flipping a state that Trump is

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<v Speaker 2>relying upon to get himself to two hundred and seventy votes,

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<v Speaker 2>well that's why they are going to be talking about

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<v Speaker 2>it Uphill down Dale and you will hear the echoes

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<v Speaker 2>across Australian media in the next twenty four hours. Now, also,

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<v Speaker 2>each and every day I'm going to try and do

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<v Speaker 2>the WTF moment where we all just go wow, thank goodness.

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<v Speaker 1>That we get to visit here.

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<v Speaker 2>We love this place, but thankfully it's their politics not ours.

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<v Speaker 2>And all around the current president of the United States, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they still have one. Joe Biden, the guy who thought

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<v Speaker 2>that he would be the one doing the rallies all

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<v Speaker 2>over the place in the lead up to this election,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to go for a second term. But we all

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<v Speaker 2>know why that didn't happen. Now he's made so many mistakes.

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<v Speaker 1>We all know what they are.

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<v Speaker 2>So much so that the Harris campaign, according to again

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<v Speaker 2>news websites, which are very much focused on the sort

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<v Speaker 2>of the inside bubble, of the inside bubble of the

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<v Speaker 2>inside bubble, they have said that basically Harris doesn't want

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<v Speaker 2>a campaign with him side by side, and they don't

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<v Speaker 2>want him to go anywhere new microphones, because of course

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<v Speaker 2>when he does, he calls half of the country garbage.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh the Puerto Rican that I know or Puerto Rican

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<v Speaker 5>where i've in my home state of Delaware. They're good, decent,

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<v Speaker 5>honorable people. The only garbage ic float now there is

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<v Speaker 5>his supporters.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting to know here too, that that remark in particular

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<v Speaker 2>has been noticed and has been noticed as a real problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Even Bill Maher, who believes Harris is going to win

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<v Speaker 2>but can start to see that comments like that could

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<v Speaker 2>push people Trump's way. He says, it's even worse than

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<v Speaker 2>Hillary and the Deplorables because I.

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<v Speaker 6>Feel like it epitomizes everything that the Trump people hate

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<v Speaker 6>about the Democrats. They look down on us. It's like

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<v Speaker 6>Deplorables times ten.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, fascinating to see there. But guess what the

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<v Speaker 2>WTF moment was? He's done it again again. You probably

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<v Speaker 2>didn't see this on the six PM news. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>the joy of Sky News so many people all over

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<v Speaker 2>the place and us here giving you the chance to

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<v Speaker 2>have a little peak over this hour while we deal

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<v Speaker 2>with what's happening in Australia, of course, the truly greatest

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<v Speaker 2>country in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's done it again. This time.

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<v Speaker 2>He now says that he wants to smack about MAGA supporters.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, I know some of you guys who attempted to

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<v Speaker 5>think as much your guys, I'll tell you what, man,

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<v Speaker 5>but I'm serious. These are the kind of guys you're

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<v Speaker 5>like to smack an ass.

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<v Speaker 1>What a creepy guy, right, just a creepy, weird dude.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's going on with him. Back to

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<v Speaker 2>the States in a moment or two time. But first

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<v Speaker 2>let's turn our attention to the greatest country in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>that being Australia, where the Prime Minister has apparently started

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<v Speaker 2>his election campaign for the twenty twenty five election, which

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<v Speaker 2>shur of course, will be covering at even greater detail

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<v Speaker 2>than we're covering what's happening here in the US. And

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<v Speaker 2>apparently did you know that cost of living? It's all

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<v Speaker 2>completely disappeared.

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<v Speaker 1>The worst of it is behind us.

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<v Speaker 2>According to upgrade albow, the bloke at the front of

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<v Speaker 2>the plane or the private plane, or the upgrade on

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<v Speaker 2>the plane, the guy with the mansion, the guy with

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<v Speaker 2>the two taxpayer funded mansions, Well this is what he

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<v Speaker 2>said today in Adelaide. And can you think of anything

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<v Speaker 2>more tone death than this.

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<v Speaker 7>I know that workers, families and small businesses have all.

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<v Speaker 1>Done at heart.

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<v Speaker 7>But while there are still challenges to meet, still problems

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<v Speaker 7>to solve, still people under pressure who need our help.

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<v Speaker 7>When we look at the economy today, we can see

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<v Speaker 7>new reasons for optimism, a new proof that the worst

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<v Speaker 7>is behind us.

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<v Speaker 2>Seriously, seriously, I'm sorry to use the term gas lighting,

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<v Speaker 2>which I know a lot of you don't use in

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<v Speaker 2>your world, But basically it's being BS two. It's when

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<v Speaker 2>somebody turns around and tells you that up is down,

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<v Speaker 2>black is white, left is right, the lights are on

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<v Speaker 2>when the lights are off. The reality is that, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>there are some indices that are starting to say that

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<v Speaker 2>things month by month, quarter by quarter are not as

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<v Speaker 2>bad as they were the previous month of the previous quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>But does the Prime Minister honestly believe that anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's trying to pay off a house tonight thinks that

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<v Speaker 2>the worst of it's behind us. Remember under Albow there

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<v Speaker 2>have been a dozen interest rate rises, and even if

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<v Speaker 2>there's one or two that come down, you can still

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<v Speaker 2>see the thousands of dollars that people have had to

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<v Speaker 2>find since he became the Prime minister.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they going to tell anyone that things are behind us?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, there's the people who are filling up each

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<v Speaker 2>and every week, each and every day.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes when it comes to petrol.

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<v Speaker 2>Petrol right now tonight across Australia Sunday night, two dollars

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<v Speaker 2>in Sydney, almost two dollars in Melbourne and Brisbane as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But what was the number.

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<v Speaker 2>That a couple of years ago Anthony Aberanezi showed that

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<v Speaker 2>Scott Morrison was out of touch when it came to

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<v Speaker 2>cost of living in petrol prices? Oh, that's right, it

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<v Speaker 2>was a dollar seventy nine two bucks. But the worst

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<v Speaker 2>of it is behind us. Just last week the inflation numbers, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>the best in multiple years.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a look at them.

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<v Speaker 2>They show that in almost every category prices are still

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<v Speaker 2>going up. Now remember this quarter is on top of

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<v Speaker 2>last quarter, on top of last quarter, on top of

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<v Speaker 2>last quarter. So if it's two percent, you're added to

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<v Speaker 2>the last two percent, five percent, the last seven percent.

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<v Speaker 2>And in just September, these are the things that went

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<v Speaker 2>up price wise. Alcohol and tobacco the best part of

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<v Speaker 2>almost thirteen percent, Fruit and veggies at nine percent, rent

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<v Speaker 2>at six percent, education six percent, tobacco and alcohol six percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Insurance, insurance insurance, it keeps going up. Oh, but the

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<v Speaker 1>worst of times are behind is fed in.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't of course, have to pay private health insurance

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<v Speaker 2>because he's on the role Goald of the Prime Minister's

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<v Speaker 2>health plan. What about people trying to buy a brand

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<v Speaker 2>new house they want to live in oh, you know

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<v Speaker 2>those crazy people who need to eat or have something

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<v Speaker 2>to drink. All of that higher than the numbers the

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister is trying to shove down your throat.

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<v Speaker 1>And before the Prime Minister wants to.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, hey, we've turned a corner and everything is awesome,

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<v Speaker 2>and everything's great, we've see news out of New South

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<v Speaker 2>Wales tonight that you're gonna have to pay more for

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<v Speaker 2>drinking water.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have to pay more for the water that

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<v Speaker 1>you use in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Sink, in the shower, pardon me, wherever you happen to be,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to pay how's that fifty percent more? And that,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, comes from a friendly news source to

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<v Speaker 2>the New South Wales government. The prime ministers also tried

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<v Speaker 2>to tell us that billions of dollars have been spent

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<v Speaker 2>by the Australian taxpayer to make childcare cheaper. We've heard

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<v Speaker 2>that over and over and over again.

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<v Speaker 7>We can see new reasons for optimism, a new proof

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<v Speaker 7>that the worst is behind us.

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<v Speaker 1>But guess what.

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<v Speaker 2>All of those apparent changes to childcare have been eaten

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<v Speaker 2>up by the people who provide childcare because the cost

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<v Speaker 2>of providing it, including extra wages, means the fees go up.

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<v Speaker 2>So just like the scenarios where say a baby bonus

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<v Speaker 2>or a first home buyers grant, all of those things

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<v Speaker 2>just get eaten up because the private companies go, how

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<v Speaker 2>good is this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gone down.

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<v Speaker 2>By five percent, so we can put our fees back

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<v Speaker 2>up by five percent and everyone's happy. But of course,

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<v Speaker 2>why with this prime minister have any idea what's actually happening.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to start a multi month tour of lies

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<v Speaker 2>about the Australian economy. You see, he's got four million

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<v Speaker 2>bucks to drop on a holiday house or a retirement

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<v Speaker 2>house that he doesn't plan to move into anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll give you the tip.

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<v Speaker 2>If he keeps this up, he might be doing it

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<v Speaker 2>a lot sooner than anyone thinks.

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<v Speaker 1>After the next election.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember, both he, his ministers and every person in the

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<v Speaker 2>House of Representatives or the Senate has got not one,

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<v Speaker 2>not two, but three pay.

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<v Speaker 1>Rises since the last election.

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<v Speaker 2>The Prime Minister, who says, oh, the worst of it's

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<v Speaker 2>behind us, earns six hundred thousand dollars a year while

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about extra money for bloody nice houses.

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<v Speaker 1>What about Penny Wong.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Penny Wong, of course, is the lefty love for

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<v Speaker 2>the one who they dream of that should be the

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<v Speaker 2>true leader of Australia, the.

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<v Speaker 1>True face that we should have.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, she's just as out of touch as the Prime

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<v Speaker 2>Minister is. We learn this weekend that she was able

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<v Speaker 2>to have more than three million dollars to buy a

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<v Speaker 2>brand house.

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<v Speaker 1>Now again, good luck to her. But where does that

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<v Speaker 1>money come from?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it comes for you and me, because she has

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<v Speaker 2>essentially only ever worked.

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<v Speaker 1>For the government.

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<v Speaker 2>She's either worked as a politician since two thousand and

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<v Speaker 2>one or as you can see on her own bio

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<v Speaker 2>on the Parliament House website. Okay, but she's worked for staffers.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to go way back into the nineties to

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<v Speaker 2>find a time when she actually was working for a

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<v Speaker 2>company like you and me, trying to be a pay

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<v Speaker 2>as you go person.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and while this week we're still going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about upgrade elbow, there'll be a newspot in the

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<v Speaker 2>next couple of days that I'm sure will show the

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<v Speaker 2>effects of the upgrade elbow and just how out of

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<v Speaker 2>touch they are right now. Well, Penny Wong story from

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of years ago. She has flown so often

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<v Speaker 2>on taxpayer funded flights that she has now received Platinum

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<v Speaker 2>lifetime status at Quantus. Yeah, you pay for the flights,

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<v Speaker 2>but she gets the three upgrades for the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>her life. Has this Wong's new designation with lifelong access

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<v Speaker 2>to international first class business lounges and a guarantee that

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<v Speaker 2>your name is at the top of the pile for

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<v Speaker 2>international upgrades. It also comes with a handy luggage bonus,

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<v Speaker 2>which means your bag is the first off the plane

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<v Speaker 2>and you're the first to arrive on a baggage carousel.

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<v Speaker 2>They tell you your life gets better when it has

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<v Speaker 2>been getting worse. They tell us the economy has turned

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<v Speaker 2>a corner, when the only corner that is being turned

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<v Speaker 2>is these people into a new driveway of a house

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<v Speaker 2>worth millions of dollars. Well, I'm not going to fall

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<v Speaker 2>for it, and I don't think the people of Australia

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<v Speaker 2>will either now. As you know, Australians when they go

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<v Speaker 2>to university are able to do so regardless of how

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<v Speaker 2>much their families earned. This is a good system, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But as we've often or argued about in the past,

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<v Speaker 2>you really should be smart enough to turn up, not

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<v Speaker 2>just able to turn up in order for the taxpayer

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<v Speaker 2>to end up.

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<v Speaker 1>Paying for you.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, eighty one eighty one billion dollars is how

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<v Speaker 2>much money university students still owe their fellow taxpayers for

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<v Speaker 2>paying for their higher education.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, some data which came out from the.

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<v Speaker 2>Tax Office shows that fifty six thousand, seven hundred people

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<v Speaker 2>currently have more than one hundred thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>Dollars in Heck's or help debt. This is up from

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<v Speaker 1>just forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Seven thousand people who are in the category last year,

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<v Speaker 2>and back in twenty eighteen nineteen it was twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand people. Well, today again, Labor trying to turn the corner,

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<v Speaker 2>has announced that they are going to use billions of

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<v Speaker 2>dollars of your money to buy votes off the Greens.

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<v Speaker 2>They are going to wipe lots of money off lots

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<v Speaker 2>of students debt.

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<v Speaker 8>The PMS pitch to young voters vowing to slash university

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<v Speaker 8>and tafe debts.

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<v Speaker 9>Labour sixteen billion dollar promise to wipe student debt kickstarting

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<v Speaker 9>the federal election campaign early.

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<v Speaker 10>Direct pitch at younger voters who start their working lives

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<v Speaker 10>on low wages, paying high rent and saddled with large

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<v Speaker 10>hex debts.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole thing sixteen billion dollars, not sixteen billion dollars

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<v Speaker 2>to fix hospital ramping. Not sixteen billion dollars to help

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<v Speaker 2>people when it comes to the cost of living. Not

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen billion dollars for the fifteen hundred dollars that they.

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<v Speaker 1>Took off ten million taxpayers.

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<v Speaker 2>No sixteen billion dollars to buy votes off the Greens,

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<v Speaker 2>who of course would already preference labor.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just man, this it truly is.

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<v Speaker 2>Now back to the States here, We're gett to Ross Greenwood,

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<v Speaker 2>who is in New York in a moment or two's time.

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<v Speaker 2>Then back to our panel where we will discuss Australian

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<v Speaker 2>issues of the day, including are they going to fall

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<v Speaker 2>for what Albo is trying to sell to the Australian people.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. We'll get to them in a

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<v Speaker 2>moment or two's time. Something you need to know about

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<v Speaker 2>this election and about why people lose their nut in

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<v Speaker 2>America when their side loses. Put simply, this weekend, both

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<v Speaker 2>sides are being told by their silos on the Internet

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<v Speaker 2>that they are definitely winning the election.

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<v Speaker 1>First, the Dems.

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<v Speaker 11>I have sources inside the Kamala Harris operation and I

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<v Speaker 11>can tell you this as of this morning, Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 11>and her people are one hundred percent confident. They're not

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<v Speaker 11>in the least bit worried. They are one hundred percent confident,

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<v Speaker 11>and they're saying, do not worry about it, don't worry

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<v Speaker 11>about the polls. Don't listen to the polls that we

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<v Speaker 11>have this in the bag.

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<v Speaker 12>When you see left wingers, not us, not be a

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<v Speaker 12>bo a left winger already going this guy did it,

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<v Speaker 12>that guy did it, This guy did.

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<v Speaker 1>It, that guy did it.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, behind the scenes, there is an absolute panicfest

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<v Speaker 12>breaking out. They got xenix everywhere, they're taking them like

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<v Speaker 12>tic TACs at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Now someone's lying here, all right, clearly both sides are

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<v Speaker 2>not going to win, and this other thing is either

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a squeaker or it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a blowout.

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<v Speaker 1>And we all know all the different reasons why.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, on the prediction sides, the batting markets, all

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<v Speaker 2>of that, it's really tightened.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether that's because they taking the each way bed and

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<v Speaker 2>they don't want to be wrong depending on which one's

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<v Speaker 2>going to win. But have a look at this the

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<v Speaker 2>five point thirty eight website, which again takes poles and

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<v Speaker 2>a whole bunch of other data to try to work

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<v Speaker 2>out what's going on fifty one to forty nine when

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<v Speaker 2>they run on their computers, what's going to happen on

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday here Wednesday. Of course in Australia the bloker used

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<v Speaker 2>to work for that business but is now out out

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<v Speaker 2>on his own again. The best part of fifty one

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<v Speaker 2>to forty eight right now because of that poll in Iowa.

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<v Speaker 2>Big change in the betting markets. It was about sixty

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<v Speaker 2>forty We're now down to about fifty three to forty

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<v Speaker 2>seven right now.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, if you have a look at all of.

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<v Speaker 2>The betting over time, you can see when the red

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<v Speaker 2>line was Trump versus Biden. Then there's the candidate switch,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it blows out for Trump again, and then

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<v Speaker 2>a big change in the past twenty four hours. So

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<v Speaker 2>we keep talking about the seven states that matter, the

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<v Speaker 2>swing states.

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<v Speaker 1>Again.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go clockwise here where we are talking about Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 2>We then move our way down to North Carolina, Georgia,

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<v Speaker 2>Arizona and Nevada.

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<v Speaker 1>All of those still in play. So what are the

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<v Speaker 1>polls telling us?

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<v Speaker 2>The New York Times poll of polls, will it shows

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<v Speaker 2>things raise a tight if Harris is in front anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>it's by less than a point. If Trump is in front,

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<v Speaker 2>it is.

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<v Speaker 1>By a point or more. But of course margin.

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<v Speaker 2>Evera blah blah blah. If the Poles do exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>they did in twenty twenty and twenty sixteen, then Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>going to really rip away with this thing. But if

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<v Speaker 2>there is a big change in things like people over

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five and women that are going to surge, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what gets Harris there.

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<v Speaker 1>As for real clear politics, there has been a.

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<v Speaker 2>Change where she's just in front, I mean zero point

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<v Speaker 2>one percent in Wisconsin, Michigan at zero point six. Other

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<v Speaker 2>than that, Trump, Arizona, Nevada, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>All of those things good. So if the polls were

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<v Speaker 1>correct today.

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<v Speaker 2>Bang, this is what you are going to see two

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<v Speaker 2>seventy to win. Trump up by seventeen electoral College votes.

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<v Speaker 2>That is even after I have swapped Iowa out when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to some of those polls, and again that

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<v Speaker 2>polling that I have talked about today, In fact, if

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<v Speaker 2>you turn around and you make that change, it goes

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<v Speaker 2>down to two seventy five, So you'll still win even

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<v Speaker 2>if Iowa starts to move. That's also if he loses Nevada,

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<v Speaker 2>although early voting would suggest that the Republicans are absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>smashing it there.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll see what happens. So the blue Wall, let's

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<v Speaker 1>turn from seven states to worry about to three.

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<v Speaker 2>States to focus on again in the top right hand corner.

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<v Speaker 1>I've used all of our graphics budget on.

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<v Speaker 2>This one, which is Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and in Michigan. Put simply,

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<v Speaker 2>Harris needs to win all of them. Trump needs just

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<v Speaker 2>one of them. And insiders are telling political media who

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<v Speaker 2>are very plugged in here, including a block called Mark Halpern.

0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:50.840
<v Speaker 2>A guy who does not pick a candidate, does not

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<v Speaker 2>root for one side or the other, as they say

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<v Speaker 2>here in the United States, I always won that.

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<v Speaker 1>Funny, don't you, we say?

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<v Speaker 2>Cheer well, he says, Wisconsin is probably going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a problem, Harris.

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<v Speaker 1>If that's the case, Trump's on is wide, it will win.

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<v Speaker 8>And what I'm here to tell you tonight, based on

0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:09.000
<v Speaker 8>my reporting with Democrats and Republicans nationally and in both

0:23:09.040 --> 0:23:12.359
<v Speaker 8>those states, that it could be that Kamala Harris wins

0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:15.760
<v Speaker 8>Pennsylvania but loses the White House because she loses Wisconsin.

0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:18.600
<v Speaker 8>Michigan remains a bit of a puzzle. Both Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 8>and Donald Trump are doing dueling rallies near each other

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<v Speaker 8>in Wisconsin tonight, bidding as far as I'm concerned for

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<v Speaker 8>my reporting, because, as I said, my reporting is that

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<v Speaker 8>she's in trouble in Wisconsin. This is based on three sources,

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<v Speaker 8>two Republicans, one Democrat, all of whom know the state

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<v Speaker 8>quite well, and all of whom told me today the

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<v Speaker 8>same version of they would be somewhere between soprase and

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<v Speaker 8>shocked if Kamala Harris won Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 1>Now can it all change? Will it all change? We'll

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<v Speaker 1>all find out together. I'm deep in the data for you.

0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:51.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm following it all so you don't have to, and

0:23:51.480 --> 0:23:53.520
<v Speaker 2>we are right across all of this.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to be in Dallas.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a DAC, We've got reporters all around the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Ross Green wouldn't the say from U York. But I

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<v Speaker 2>got to tell you about college football, there's nothing like

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<v Speaker 2>this in Australia. Of course, we buy a ticket, we

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<v Speaker 2>turn up about five minutes before the game.

0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:08.920
<v Speaker 1>We barely go to reserves.

0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, at college football, they do a thing called tailgating.

0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:15.760
<v Speaker 2>This is where people party in a park or they

0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:16.320
<v Speaker 2>party in a.

0:24:17.800 --> 0:24:18.359
<v Speaker 1>Car park.

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<v Speaker 2>They do so for hours. They were there hours before

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<v Speaker 2>the game, and there were thousands of people that were

0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:27.320
<v Speaker 2>there at Southern Methodist University. This is right in the

0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:29.320
<v Speaker 2>heart of Dallas. It's a place where the footy field

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<v Speaker 2>is named after former President Gerald Ford.

0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:32.400
<v Speaker 1>It's where George W.

0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:35.359
<v Speaker 2>Bush has his presidential library, and that's where I had

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<v Speaker 2>an awesome time.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything's bigger in Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>The parties are bigger, the football's bigger, The Mustangs are bigger.

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<v Speaker 1>This is football Dallas style. Woo nineteen seventy two. Would

0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:02.840
<v Speaker 1>you fix it up yourself? Absolutely? It's gorgeous, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Trump or Harris? Who's gonna win?

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<v Speaker 13>Oh?

0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:06.880
<v Speaker 1>The Ponies? The ponies?

0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:09.879
<v Speaker 2>That's all the matter is a big election Tuesday, Trumpel Harris?

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<v Speaker 1>Which way you going?

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<v Speaker 4>Trump?

0:25:11.000 --> 0:25:11.440
<v Speaker 1>All the way?

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<v Speaker 7>Bro?

0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:13.320
<v Speaker 4>I agree? Trump for sure.

0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:15.720
<v Speaker 1>What do you have to do to become Miss Park City?

0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:21.159
<v Speaker 14>That's a Miss America local preliminary So interview evening gown

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<v Speaker 14>all the fun thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You're more excited for a pony's win or Trump or Harris?

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<v Speaker 1>The ponies win? Who do you think he's gonna win? Trumple, Harris? Ponies.

0:25:29.680 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 1>They've all said the same who do you want on

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 1>the grill? You want Trumpel Harris? Oh, Trump all the way,

0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:40.080
<v Speaker 1>all the way, none of the above. I'm hoping Harris. Okay,

0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:45.920
<v Speaker 1>what does it mean? I don't have money? Yeah, Donald Kemela.

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:50.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Is do you want to win Trumpel

0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Harris on Tuesday?

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<v Speaker 15>I don't see how anybody in the world in the

0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:57.080
<v Speaker 15>right mind can vote the Harris.

0:25:57.960 --> 0:25:59.359
<v Speaker 1>So what is it about Trump that you like?

0:26:00.520 --> 0:26:01.520
<v Speaker 4>He's not insane.

0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:06.400
<v Speaker 15>He actually understands that we should be safe and our

0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:07.399
<v Speaker 15>economy should go.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you do all that without a teleprompter?

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<v Speaker 15>I'm a Democrat, Harris Trump, Hey, America, We'll save your Harris.

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Will be there. No, no, no, no, no, I'm evicted Fellows

0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:34.800
<v Speaker 1>on this. I'm like ul Trump all the way. Yeah.

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:36.919
<v Speaker 2>I had a great time. It is fantastic. Anyway, The

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 2>ponies absolutely slate him. Yesterday, Well donder the Mustangs and

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:43.320
<v Speaker 2>what a great time that we had. Ross Greenwood is

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 2>covering everything for us in the financial heart, the media

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 2>heart of all of this New York City, where, of

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:53.200
<v Speaker 2>course it is a Sunday morning there Sunday night at home. Ross,

0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:56.959
<v Speaker 2>give us an idea about some of the financial indicators

0:26:57.000 --> 0:26:59.160
<v Speaker 2>that we should be looking at. Everyone's looking at polls,

0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:01.720
<v Speaker 2>But is there anything the markets are telling you or

0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:04.080
<v Speaker 2>the insiders are telling you about where they think this

0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 2>thing's going.

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 4>How look at the betting apps.

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<v Speaker 16>That's generally the best guide for election outcomes in America,

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 16>always has been, and it says Trump is the favorite

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 16>right now. So that's one of the keys. That's really

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:19.120
<v Speaker 16>kind of interesting to see about this. But you're quite

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:21.399
<v Speaker 16>right about one other thing, and that is what gets me.

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:23.359
<v Speaker 16>Strikes me just chatting to people like you have been

0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:26.480
<v Speaker 16>chatting to people, is just how much there are parallels

0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 16>with Australia.

0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:29.280
<v Speaker 1>It's all about the cost of living.

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<v Speaker 16>The fact of the matter is normally governments get chucked

0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 16>out when the unemployment rate rises rather rapidly here in America,

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 16>like it is in Australia. People have got jobs, but

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:41.440
<v Speaker 16>they're not happy. They're not happy about interest rates having

0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:44.639
<v Speaker 16>gone so high. They're not happy about migration. Here in

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 16>New York, massive numbers of migrants coming through, and so

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 16>as a result, the people are disgruntled about the price

0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:53.440
<v Speaker 16>of housing. They're disgrundled about the fact that even though

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:56.639
<v Speaker 16>the inflation rate might have come down prices certainly haven't.

0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 1>They're still having.

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<v Speaker 4>To pay more.

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<v Speaker 16>So, you know, the interesting thing that you've discovered even

0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 16>chatting to people, that I've discovered is just how engaged

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 16>Americans are in this election. Remember that voting is voluntary,

0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 16>you don't have to vote. But the fact is that

0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 16>people are engaged. And more than two thirds of this nation,

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 16>the adults who are eligible to vote, are going to

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:19.640
<v Speaker 16>get out and vote, one hundred and sixty million of them,

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 16>and record numbers already have full.

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 1>So it is incredible on.

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:28.560
<v Speaker 16>The streets, just how engaged people are, isn't it.

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 1>Look, this is the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>The great thing about Americans is that all of them

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 2>are born performers. All of them want to have a

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:37.679
<v Speaker 2>chat to you. All of them speak in the perfect soundbites.

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 2>It is very easy to have a chat to them.

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<v Speaker 2>But I've got to say as well, Ross, like you're

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 2>the best in the business when it comes to business

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 2>to finance, and your entire career has had a consumer

0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 2>focus on it as well. I think this is a

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 2>parallel to the conversation that is happening in Australia, as

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 2>you say, which is the numbers coming out of Washington,

0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 2>coming out of Canberra. They might say one thing about

0:28:57.520 --> 0:29:00.160
<v Speaker 2>things getting better, but the reality is that even if

0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 2>the inflation is a smaller number than it was before, well,

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 2>when you're added on top to every inflation number that's

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 2>happened since the pandemic, prices are way up. And I

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 2>was talking to people in Texas where they're tooking literally

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 2>about the food they're eating at restaurants is up by

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 2>thirty percent. The rent that they're paying, the amount that

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 2>they have to pay off on a home.

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 1>That's what makes it.

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 2>Very difficult for people trying to tell us, well, well

0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:26.440
<v Speaker 2>but this number says this and numbers no.

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:26.440
<v Speaker 1>No.

0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 2>If your lived experience is the Orange Man, it was

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:33.720
<v Speaker 2>thirty percent cheaper. That's his whole call to wide.

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 1>To vote for him, right, Yeah, that's right.

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:38.640
<v Speaker 16>And the other thing, I'll give you a small example

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:40.880
<v Speaker 16>this is I've said this with Pete steven Avik the

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:43.120
<v Speaker 16>other day. Is just round the corner from where we're

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:45.480
<v Speaker 16>staying here in the Lower East Side in New York

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:49.560
<v Speaker 16>is Cat's Famous Deli, famous for Seinfeld so many other movies,

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 16>when Harry met Sally, that famous scene in there. Well,

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 16>the fact there is their famous sandwich is the Rubenberger right,

0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 16>stacked high with meat. All the Rubenberger now is thirty

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 16>bucks were which is about forty five Ozzie dollars. So

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:05.200
<v Speaker 16>get that a sandwich thirty bucks. So that gives you

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:07.960
<v Speaker 16>just a little sense of the cost of living crisis.

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 4>But I'll tell you what.

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 16>It's not easy to actually spark a bit of an

0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 16>upset in this town either. So yesterday we're outside Trump

0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:19.480
<v Speaker 16>Tows and what happens is we spot this slight model,

0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 16>it's dummy of Donald Trump being wheeled across with his

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 16>underpans half down. I'm wondering what the hell's going on

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:27.320
<v Speaker 16>here anyway, So what happens is it turns out there's

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 16>a British artist called Allison Jackson. It's really famous, right,

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 16>super duper famous, and she did a sculpture back in

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 16>twenty sixteen which is rearranged here outside Trump Tows is

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 16>of Donald in flagrante delecto with Miss Mexico, right, It

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 16>would be fair to say, so, I don't know whether

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:47.000
<v Speaker 16>we're going to show the actual pictures of what it

0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:49.520
<v Speaker 16>looks like, but you can imagine what it's like anyway.

0:30:49.600 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 16>So we Allison Jackson's there, right.

0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 13>Get this Alison Jackson's there, we start interviewing her. We

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 13>almost call them riot the whole thing anyway, So just

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 13>have a listen to the interview with Elison Jackson and

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 13>the riot almost turns out afterwards.

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Speaker 4>Tell me about your inspiration.

0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 1>What was your thoughts in doing this?

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 17>Well, I just thought the elections are coming up, and

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 17>I just thought, well, that's what Donald Trump says best.

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 1>And you know, you see it as it is. So

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 1>who are you trying to send the message too? Is

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 1>it the local community here?

0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 4>Who are you trying to do it too? Well, I'm

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 4>an artist, so you know it sits in the middle.

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 1>So basically you can see what he's doing.

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 4>And you know he admits to all that it is.

0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>So tell me about tell me about the fact, but.

0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:43.160
<v Speaker 4>A way I think it's disgusting.

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 16>Yeah, Paul, we had to pull out of the interview

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 16>after that because we were going to cause the rite.

0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 16>But I'll tell you New York Marathon today will be

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 16>out on the streets having a chat to people about

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 16>all of that. But the one thing you can tell

0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:59.480
<v Speaker 16>right now, even with Kamala Harris going on Saturday Night Live,

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 16>the fact running all over the countryside right now, is

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 16>This is tight, and I've got a sense that neither

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 16>party really knows whether they're across the line just yet.

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 1>This is it exactly where.

0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Look, there are certain voters that just want to go

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 2>with the winners, so both want to pretend that they

0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 2>are the winner.

0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 1>Right now, Thank you, Ross.

0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 2>You'll see him at four point thirty eastern daylight time

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:21.440
<v Speaker 2>in his show of course with Business Now, and you'll

0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:24.560
<v Speaker 2>see him right across the channel as we are everywhere.

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:28.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you we are from the border to Broadway

0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 2>here covering the American election, and right now we are

0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 2>in Dallas, all right. In a moment or two time

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 2>back to Australian news. Does our panel believe that ol

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Bow can convince.

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Anyone We've turned the corner? Methinks not.

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<v Speaker 2>A ding dong from Dallas next very early Sunday morning,

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 2>about half four here in Dallas. Thanks for watching a

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 2>Sunday night in Australia. Let's get to our chat about

0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 2>today's news, which of course will be with none of

0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:00.720
<v Speaker 2>them than James Ashby gave a big shot in the

0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 2>seat of Keppel at the Queensland election. Congratulations on your showing, mate,

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 2>and Linda Scott of course is say it, free to

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 2>say whatever she likes, but of course his labor to

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 2>the absolute core. All right, So the Prime Minister today

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 2>will turn the corner. Everything is awesome, forget how expensive

0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 2>everything is. He's pushing optimism, and most of the six

0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:20.239
<v Speaker 2>PM news is surprise, surprise. They don't want to talk

0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 2>about cost of living anymore. They're bored to that and

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 2>they know that it'll hurt the Prime Minister of the election,

0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:27.040
<v Speaker 2>so they were more than happy to cover us in

0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:29.400
<v Speaker 2>the BS dust of the PM today, roll the tape

0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 2>from Adelaide, the PM's.

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<v Speaker 8>Pitch to young voters, vowing to slash university and tafe.

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<v Speaker 9>Debts, labour sixteen billion dollar promise to wipe student debt,

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<v Speaker 9>kickstarting the federal election campaign early.

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<v Speaker 10>Direct pitch at younger voters who start their working lives

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 10>on low wages, paying high rent and saddled with large

0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:53.840
<v Speaker 10>hex debts.

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<v Speaker 7>I know that workers, families and small businesses have all

0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:02.400
<v Speaker 7>done at heart. But while there are still challenges to meet,

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 7>still problems to solve, still people under pressure who need

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 7>our help. When we look at the economy today, we

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 7>can see new reasons for optimism, a new proof that

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:16.440
<v Speaker 7>the worst is behind.

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:21.359
<v Speaker 1>Us, James. I get why he's saying it. I don't

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:22.279
<v Speaker 1>think people believe it.

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:27.640
<v Speaker 17>No, no, not at all. Seventeen and a half million

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:31.880
<v Speaker 17>voters here in Australia and he is deliberately buying votes

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:35.759
<v Speaker 17>of three million Australians who still have a HEX debt.

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:38.879
<v Speaker 17>That's how many we're talking about here. And yet he's

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 17>willing to throw sixteen billion dollars of your money, my

0:34:42.400 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 17>money and everybody who contributes taxes in this country to

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 17>try and buy those votes. It's a disgraceful attempt here. Look,

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:54.600
<v Speaker 17>the reality is we know that when we sign up

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:57.839
<v Speaker 17>to any university debt, we know what the conditions are.

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:01.480
<v Speaker 17>No different with the houselaning I've taken out on this place.

0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:04.800
<v Speaker 17>You know what the conditions are. And what he's deliberately

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 17>gone here and done is just throwing five and a

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 17>half thousand dollars at every single one of those people

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 17>with a debt.

0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:11.759
<v Speaker 1>Look.

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:16.440
<v Speaker 17>I do agree that the hex's debt system needs some overhaul.

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:19.800
<v Speaker 17>We've got to be able to repair that. But just

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:24.400
<v Speaker 17>this blatant cash giveaway and buying of votes, I hope

0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 17>the young people see.

0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 4>Right through this.

0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Here is the Prime Minister talking about the changes to

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:33.840
<v Speaker 2>the hex system, and then we'll get Linda's thoughts off that.

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<v Speaker 7>Today I announced that if we win the next election,

0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:43.560
<v Speaker 7>we will deliver more help for all three million Australians

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:47.839
<v Speaker 7>with a student debt. A re elected Labor government will

0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:52.879
<v Speaker 7>take twenty percent off student debt for everyone who has won.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Linda, a few people that I've seen commenting on

0:35:57.680 --> 0:35:59.640
<v Speaker 2>this are saying, Okay, this is all well and good

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 2>for the students that it's going to affect, but what

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:06.360
<v Speaker 2>about the people who already paid off their debts, And again,

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:08.919
<v Speaker 2>this is just buying votes off the Greens who would

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:09.840
<v Speaker 2>preference you anyway.

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:13.360
<v Speaker 14>Look, Paul, I think this is a great announcement one

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:18.319
<v Speaker 14>hundred thousand fee free tafe places that helps all Australians,

0:36:18.480 --> 0:36:23.080
<v Speaker 14>as does the wiping of university debt. Parents and grandparents

0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:26.600
<v Speaker 14>who have young people in their family in universities at

0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:29.239
<v Speaker 14>the moment are worried that young people won't be able

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 14>to afford to buy houses, and this is the kind

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:34.759
<v Speaker 14>of practical announcement that makes a difference in those young

0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:37.560
<v Speaker 14>people's lives, as well as the lives of their parents

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:41.400
<v Speaker 14>and grandparents who may well be worried about having to

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:44.200
<v Speaker 14>lean in to support the young person in their family

0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:46.279
<v Speaker 14>to be able to buy a house and go on

0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:49.759
<v Speaker 14>and do all the things that older generations of Australians

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:53.399
<v Speaker 14>have been able to do. There is generational inequality here

0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:57.680
<v Speaker 14>and this great set of three announcements about wiping debt,

0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 14>raising the threshold for paying back that university debt and

0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:06.880
<v Speaker 14>one hundred thousand fee free takee places allows the intergenerational

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 14>burden to lessen. It's a good fair labor policy that

0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:14.759
<v Speaker 14>would help all Australians, and all Australians are also benefiting

0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:16.760
<v Speaker 14>from having young people trained.

0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 1>We need more.

0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:21.360
<v Speaker 14>Construction workers, we need more nurses, we need more teachers.

0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:25.120
<v Speaker 14>It's in everybody's interests that young people go on and

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:28.320
<v Speaker 14>get a great education, be it at tafe or at university,

0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 14>and this policy is designed to support that. There's no

0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 14>way you can argue this is not a good, strong

0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 14>vision for Australia's future, our economy and our young people.

0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll certainly argue the cost of it right.

0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Eighty billion dollars is how much students are owe the Australian,

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 2>their fellow taxpayer. The number of people with more than

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:54.480
<v Speaker 2>one hundred thousand dollars to pay back. Well, that is

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:57.920
<v Speaker 2>absolutely blooming as to where it is. But this was

0:37:57.960 --> 0:38:00.800
<v Speaker 2>all sort of wrapped today by the media the start

0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 2>of the election campaign and an actual fact there was

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:07.240
<v Speaker 2>even sort of reference to a slogan building Australia's future

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 2>all the rest of it here James Australians hated an

0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 2>eight week election campaign when the ghost had one in

0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:16.920
<v Speaker 2>twenty sixteen. Are people really ready for an election campaign

0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:19.000
<v Speaker 2>between now and March?

0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:24.279
<v Speaker 17>Well we saw this in the Queensland election. Of course,

0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:27.120
<v Speaker 17>you know it was just one giveaway after another, and

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:30.480
<v Speaker 17>of course taxpayers picked the tab up on it. Lender's

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:33.360
<v Speaker 17>right to say that we do need more nurses, we

0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 17>need more doctors, we need those people with those skill sets.

0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:40.960
<v Speaker 17>And of course there are incentive schemes which I completely

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:43.080
<v Speaker 17>agree with if you go and spend some time in

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:46.160
<v Speaker 17>regional parts of our country that we will pay your

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 17>hex step back if you commit to regional parts in

0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:55.480
<v Speaker 17>health or or even teaching. So those plans are in place,

0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 17>but it's these arts degrees that actually really don't provide

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:02.840
<v Speaker 17>too much in the way of when you go to

0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:05.440
<v Speaker 17>university and get it asked. I don't know why we

0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:08.399
<v Speaker 17>should be paying for those sorts of things. So look,

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:11.480
<v Speaker 17>I hate the idea that the next six months it's

0:39:11.520 --> 0:39:14.080
<v Speaker 17>all going to be about buying our votes and were

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:15.440
<v Speaker 17>using your money to do it.

0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:21.399
<v Speaker 2>Fascinating stuff in the Sunday Mail today in Queensland, which

0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:24.799
<v Speaker 2>was a story about a surf life Saving club. They

0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:27.279
<v Speaker 2>wanted to do Welcome to Country to try to keep

0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:28.960
<v Speaker 2>up with the times, but they were hit with a

0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:33.319
<v Speaker 2>bill of five hundred dollars for the person to well

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:38.480
<v Speaker 2>perform the ceremony. Linda, five hundred bucks seems like an

0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:41.719
<v Speaker 2>awful lot of money for somebody to not do very much.

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 2>There's thousands of dollars being spent on this. Do we

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:48.320
<v Speaker 2>either have to standardize it or why do people have

0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:49.200
<v Speaker 2>to pay for it at all?

0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:54.759
<v Speaker 14>How reasonable a proposition that if someone is coming to work,

0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:58.759
<v Speaker 14>they're going to get paid for their time. I mean,

0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:03.200
<v Speaker 14>this is serious, sleep What the argument is here? People

0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:09.360
<v Speaker 14>should when they welcome people to come through what they're saying,

0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 14>they're welcoming people to country, they're often doing many activities

0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:16.840
<v Speaker 14>outside that to prepare for that time. It's a reasonable

0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:20.360
<v Speaker 14>proposition that people get paid for their work, be they

0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:24.480
<v Speaker 14>indigenous or non indigenous, and it's really important that when

0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:26.800
<v Speaker 14>Indigenous people are asked to do a Welcome to Country,

0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:29.680
<v Speaker 14>they're not asked to do it for free. They're not

0:40:29.880 --> 0:40:33.080
<v Speaker 14>asked to do it in a way that is donating

0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:37.239
<v Speaker 14>their time. I think that's a completely reasonable proposition. The

0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:40.840
<v Speaker 14>whole idea of Welcome to Country is to educate people

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:43.520
<v Speaker 14>a little more about the land that they're on in

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 14>a thoughtful, decent, fair humane way.

0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:49.719
<v Speaker 2>All Right, I got a new friend that we met

0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:51.359
<v Speaker 2>in Dallas. I want to get on in the Telly

0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:52.640
<v Speaker 2>in a couple of minutes. So we'll end up on

0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:54.560
<v Speaker 2>this one before we get to evold prediction for the

0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:55.720
<v Speaker 2>weak ahead James.

0:40:55.800 --> 0:40:57.319
<v Speaker 1>Again, if a member of.

0:40:57.360 --> 0:41:00.880
<v Speaker 2>The RSL goes to a school to read the ode

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:03.440
<v Speaker 2>or to give a speech, they don't get paid. Why

0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:06.759
<v Speaker 2>five hundred dollars for a cultural ceremony that you would

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 2>think people would be wanting to do for free, because

0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:11.120
<v Speaker 2>it's about keeping culture alive.

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:16.520
<v Speaker 17>And people are up in arms about this, because we

0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:19.320
<v Speaker 17>had a vote on this in October last year. It

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:22.279
<v Speaker 17>was called the Voice and everyone said no, big fat

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:26.400
<v Speaker 17>majority of Australians said no. And I'm over these welcome

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:28.480
<v Speaker 17>to countries. I'm over it whether it's on an aircraft.

0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:31.040
<v Speaker 17>I just wonder every time it's set on a plane

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:33.880
<v Speaker 17>whether they're getting a kickback as well. Now, but you

0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:37.239
<v Speaker 17>know for these charity events to expect to have to

0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:40.640
<v Speaker 17>pay five hundred dollars for a surf club to go

0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:43.839
<v Speaker 17>and do a welcome to country on a beach. Get

0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:46.360
<v Speaker 17>over it. We've had a gupful of it. Most Australians

0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:49.160
<v Speaker 17>want this to end and it's actually driving a greater

0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:53.960
<v Speaker 17>wedge between Australians, whether they be Indigenous, white, Indian, whatever,

0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:55.040
<v Speaker 17>Stop with it.

0:41:57.920 --> 0:41:59.319
<v Speaker 2>I can't wait for you to meet a new friend

0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:01.680
<v Speaker 2>of mine. We've got to know here in Dallas at

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:04.880
<v Speaker 2>a moment or two time the big d Now let's, however,

0:42:04.920 --> 0:42:06.960
<v Speaker 2>get a bold prediction for the week ahead, Linda Scott.

0:42:08.360 --> 0:42:10.040
<v Speaker 14>Look, you'd be bold to predict the winner of the

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:12.080
<v Speaker 14>US election Paul Murray. But I do want to say

0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 14>there's going to be massive media consumption of US election

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:20.320
<v Speaker 14>results in Australia this Wednesday. I look forward to, like

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:23.920
<v Speaker 14>you know the famous Bob Hope Bob Hawk quote. You know,

0:42:24.160 --> 0:42:27.279
<v Speaker 14>let people do what they do, do your work, but

0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:28.920
<v Speaker 14>you know people are going to take a bit of

0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:31.360
<v Speaker 14>time out they're going to consume media. They're going to

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:34.120
<v Speaker 14>watch the results that are going to be really close

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:37.480
<v Speaker 14>this Wednesday. Good luck and go krmala Harris though.

0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:42.359
<v Speaker 2>Watch sky News, listen to sky News Radio and get

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:44.560
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0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:46.640
<v Speaker 1>All the info, all the videos, everything you need to know.

0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:48.799
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0:42:49.560 --> 0:42:53.319
<v Speaker 2>and we're really excited to be in America for this one.

0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:54.640
<v Speaker 1>James Bold prediction.

0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:59.399
<v Speaker 17>Mate, when the polling results come out lad of this week,

0:42:59.560 --> 0:43:03.319
<v Speaker 17>I think and Albo's fortunes will take a further sharp dive.

0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:09.719
<v Speaker 1>Agree completely, all right, thank you very much, guys. Enjoy

0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:11.440
<v Speaker 1>the greatest country in the world. I make the most

0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:13.759
<v Speaker 1>of the second best as we are here this week.

0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:14.640
<v Speaker 1>In a second, a.

0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Really interesting guy, lifelong Republican with a insight into what

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:23.120
<v Speaker 2>might be happening in African American communities as well.

0:43:23.320 --> 0:43:24.759
<v Speaker 1>Can't wait for you to meet him on the other

0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:25.880
<v Speaker 1>side here on Pomo.

0:43:33.120 --> 0:43:35.160
<v Speaker 2>It might be very early in the morning, but here

0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:37.520
<v Speaker 2>in Texas they are incredibly polite and they will get

0:43:37.680 --> 0:43:40.719
<v Speaker 2>up to talk to you at home. In Australia, Edward

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Okpa is a great guy. We've got the chance to

0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:44.759
<v Speaker 2>meet in the past couple of days. He ran for

0:43:44.880 --> 0:43:48.360
<v Speaker 2>mayor of Dallas and he's styling and profiling prominent Republican.

0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:50.160
<v Speaker 4>How are you, Yes, yes, I'm good. Thank you for

0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:50.480
<v Speaker 4>having me.

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Very cool.

0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:54.799
<v Speaker 2>Now, you came to Texas in eighty seven from Nigeria.

0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:56.719
<v Speaker 2>How did you pick whether you were going to be

0:43:56.760 --> 0:43:58.040
<v Speaker 2>a Republican or a Democrat?

0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:01.839
<v Speaker 4>Well, I follows alieve in the Conservative I pushed to life.

0:44:01.920 --> 0:44:03.920
<v Speaker 4>I was raised in that kind of way, and so

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:06.680
<v Speaker 4>and then in the village I grew up, or in

0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:09.640
<v Speaker 4>the Traveler, I grew up. An elephant is a symbol

0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 4>of power, the symbol of strength. So you know, back

0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:15.279
<v Speaker 4>in my village, you know if if somebody say, I'm

0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:18.960
<v Speaker 4>going to use the word and that means you an elephant.

0:44:19.360 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 4>So I wouldn't come to America and become a donkey,

0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:23.279
<v Speaker 4>no way. And of course is the symbol of the

0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:26.400
<v Speaker 4>Democratic Party. I have nothing against them, but I like

0:44:26.480 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 4>to I like the elephant. You know, when you go

0:44:28.600 --> 0:44:31.880
<v Speaker 4>to the zoo, what are you going to be excited

0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:38.440
<v Speaker 4>looking at the elephant? Kids, I'm just I just love

0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:41.200
<v Speaker 4>the elephant. And then they said Republican symbol and that's

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:42.400
<v Speaker 4>what I So.

0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about things. Obviously, Texas, the expectation is that

0:44:46.160 --> 0:44:46.640
<v Speaker 2>it will.

0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:49.000
<v Speaker 1>And truly it'll go red. No giant surprises there.

0:44:49.360 --> 0:44:51.440
<v Speaker 2>But what's your feeling about that election coming up? Do

0:44:51.520 --> 0:44:54.680
<v Speaker 2>you think that uh, Trump's lead's going to hold on

0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:56.000
<v Speaker 2>and things getting tireder?

0:44:56.080 --> 0:44:56.800
<v Speaker 1>What's your sense?

0:44:57.200 --> 0:44:59.879
<v Speaker 4>I think Trump is going to be triumphant. Wow, that's

0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:02.920
<v Speaker 4>you know again, you know, you never know what's going

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:05.960
<v Speaker 4>to happen. The Democrats always have something of sleeves, but

0:45:06.200 --> 0:45:08.040
<v Speaker 4>this time around, then are going to catch us off.

0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:11.080
<v Speaker 2>God so, because this is the thing, the Republicans saying

0:45:11.520 --> 0:45:14.000
<v Speaker 2>that they have got better lawyers.

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:17.360
<v Speaker 1>They're filing early as soon as things are happening.

0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:20.319
<v Speaker 2>Like in Pennsylvania the other day, an early voting line

0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:22.759
<v Speaker 2>was shut down early. They're right on it. Like you

0:45:22.880 --> 0:45:25.200
<v Speaker 2>guys are in the fight. You're not going to wait

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:27.600
<v Speaker 2>to see a result. You're going to get a result

0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:29.120
<v Speaker 2>that's the true result, right.

0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:31.120
<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, you know, you know the regular saying

0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:33.600
<v Speaker 4>it was beaten twice shot, So we don't want to

0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:35.759
<v Speaker 4>be you know the second time. You know, the other

0:45:35.880 --> 0:45:37.839
<v Speaker 4>time we thrust said them and they did what they did.

0:45:37.920 --> 0:45:41.279
<v Speaker 4>That's fine, but it's always good because if Trump had

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<v Speaker 4>won the second term consecutively, then it would have been

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<v Speaker 4>a lambduck president. Yes, this second time, but now he's

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<v Speaker 4>coming back full of energies. He's been on vacation for

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<v Speaker 4>four years and now he's coming back. He's going to

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<v Speaker 4>get America where we want America.

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<v Speaker 2>So match is said about the African American vote, but

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<v Speaker 2>I also want to talk about the slivers of things

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<v Speaker 2>like the Nigerian vote. We saw literally the Somali vote

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<v Speaker 2>in Minnesota. They came out strongly for Trump as well.

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<v Speaker 2>What is it about what people would consider to be

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<v Speaker 2>non traditional Republican voters that is going Is it specific

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<v Speaker 2>to Trump? Is it a rejection of the Democrats? Why

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<v Speaker 2>do you think some of those subgroups are changing?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, look the Democratic Party, you know, is

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<v Speaker 4>there plantation political party? You know is the party of

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<v Speaker 4>the ship and the shepherd. They want you to be sheppish,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, they want you to follow. That's why you

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<v Speaker 4>see Obama and Clinton I'm bad and telling you if

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<v Speaker 4>you're black, I don't vote here. You are somewhere. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>that's an insulting statement. Yes, you should allow people to

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<v Speaker 4>exercise in their liable.

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<v Speaker 1>Right to vote.

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<v Speaker 4>But now they think that they have the black folks,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like the flock of ship follow us, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, people are rejecting that, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like a lot of social media you're seeing

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<v Speaker 2>people saying that, saying, you know what, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to follow what the media says, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>instead of do what again? You know, Uncle Barry tells

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<v Speaker 2>me to do you know, or Michelle's all all the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of that. I'm joking about Barry Internet relax.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that's a big part of it as well?

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<v Speaker 2>That people are able to sit and you know, listen

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<v Speaker 2>to Trump for three hours with Rogan and they can

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<v Speaker 2>make a decision as opposed to being told, oh he's hitler.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know it.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, the American political campaigning, it will always been what

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<v Speaker 4>it is, but this time is just too bad because

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<v Speaker 4>you have people calling each other name on both sides

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<v Speaker 4>and saying stuff. But Trump has been the only person

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<v Speaker 4>who've gone from an executive office off his business to

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<v Speaker 4>the executive office of the president. No American has ever

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<v Speaker 4>done that. And you could see resentment and sentiments from

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<v Speaker 4>people who have traditionally done through the political route. You

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<v Speaker 4>a council member, DEMOCRA in Congress and Senate and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what has Obama built?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 14>What?

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<v Speaker 4>What did Clinton build? What did you buy them build?

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<v Speaker 4>These are people who have benefited from the tax base.

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<v Speaker 4>So when they see a guy who committed to America

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<v Speaker 4>spend he doesn't have to do this, but he's doing it.

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<v Speaker 4>And that is what I peel into a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>Americans because this guy is that person who is you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we talk about courage. How else can you demonstrate it?

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<v Speaker 1>Trump?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, when I saw him one time, I said,

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<v Speaker 4>mister President, you behave like a freshly poured concrete. He

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<v Speaker 4>gets trunk guy every second, and he does.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see what happens in a couple of days. Time

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<v Speaker 2>edwould want an absolute pleasure to hang all right, The

0:48:29.560 --> 0:48:31.600
<v Speaker 2>man knows Dallas. He's going to take us to breakfast.

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<v Speaker 2>The Royal Report is about to start on the Sky.

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<v Speaker 1>News tomorrow night. More from the Big Day. You think

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like saying that a thousand times? We will

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