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Speaker 3: before round one that this was going to be the
Speaker 3: match of the round after the Broncos obliterated the Roosters
Speaker 3: and the Raiders lit up Vegas, Gordy, so.
Speaker 4: Many great games between these two clubs are the nineties
Speaker 4: pretty much both teams dominated and the way they've started
Speaker 4: the season. The Raiders were probably one of the sides
Speaker 4: of Vegas and Brisbane were absolutely outstanding as well, so
Speaker 4: great clash.
Speaker 1: You touched on those sides from the nineties, Gordy, the
Speaker 1: Green Machine and the Broncast. You could argue that those
Speaker 1: two sides from that era they would survive in any
Speaker 1: era of the game and go back as far as
Speaker 1: you like, or he could play in the modern day
Speaker 1: the superstars that were in both of those lineups, and
Speaker 1: then you're fast forward to now and it's just such
Speaker 1: a brilliant narrative with Ricky, who's a fierce competitor, and
Speaker 1: Madge we know how passionate he is. They've played together,
Speaker 1: they've coached together, now they coach against one another. Fascinating
Speaker 1: duel me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're outstanding in Week one, both sides for different reasons.
Speaker 5: The Raiders were just in complete control against the Warriors,
Speaker 5: and I don't think there was a better side than
Speaker 5: the Brisbane Broncos in Week one. They were their ball movement,
Speaker 5: their speed, and the thing about the Broncos is if
Speaker 5: they can't beat you out wide, they can beat you
Speaker 5: through the power game.
Speaker 6: They've got this rare ability to be able to do both.
Speaker 3: They're bow sharp. Round one, they were quick, fast, meticulous
Speaker 3: in the way that they played. I think the Raid
Speaker 3: is surprised. I think everyone with there before they were
Speaker 3: the team of Vegas and then the Broncos with their
Speaker 3: first up performance with Madge at the Helm against the
Speaker 3: Roosters were fantastic. Now, Madge V. You said, Madge V.
Speaker 3: Sticky very similar in the way that they coach, very tough,
Speaker 3: very competitive. They train hard themselves, they play hard. They're
Speaker 3: aggressive with their players. What's their relationship like is is
Speaker 3: there a bit of a rivalry here they be looking
Speaker 3: forward to the challenge of coaches going head to head. Oh,
Speaker 3: for sure, there's a rivalry.
Speaker 1: They'll both want to win because that's what they are.
Speaker 1: When you peel it all back, they are fierce competitors
Speaker 1: and fierce winners. They went to the same high school
Speaker 1: together in Canberra, so they've known each other since they
Speaker 1: were teenagers at Saint Edmunds College. I can't wait for
Speaker 1: this battle break. They're also both players coaches in that
Speaker 1: they really care about their players and they get their
Speaker 1: players to buy into what they're doing and really want
Speaker 1: to bleed for the jumper.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was an issue a couple of years ago
Speaker 5: when Michael McGuire was on the Raiders coaching staff that
Speaker 5: when he accepted the new South Wales job. I don't
Speaker 5: Thinkricky was two pleas the way Michael McGuire went about it,
Speaker 5: but I don't think that's lingered on for too long.
Speaker 3: We'll find out on the weekend. Maybe Dylan Brown has
Speaker 3: fronted up to explain his mega move to the Knights
Speaker 3: with the thirteen Me and Dollar Man insisting money wasn't
Speaker 3: the motivating factor.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it was probably obviously gained some good
Speaker 7: relationships here at the club, not only just the teammates,
Speaker 7: but the new coaching star, everyone up in the front office.
Speaker 7: You know, I've been in a long time now, so
Speaker 7: there's relationships everywhere that I'm obviously going to miss. Might
Speaker 7: have put a lot of faith in me.
Speaker 3: And they obviously put ten years there in front of me.
Speaker 7: I didn't think I was going to leave this club ever,
Speaker 7: to be honest, I've been here a long time and
Speaker 7: I've never really wanted to leave. But there's other reasons
Speaker 7: to leaving. It's my family, it's my future. So the
Speaker 7: game's not long and I'm trying to look after myself
Speaker 7: my family. So I'm happy with my decision. Now.
Speaker 6: Some people are saying that the Nights have paid overs
Speaker 6: for what you've said to them.
Speaker 7: Once again, everyone's entitled to their own opinion. I play
Speaker 7: the best that I can, and offers are obviously eve
Speaker 7: been put in front of me, so I'll be silly
Speaker 7: not to take it. Money's never really been a thing
Speaker 7: for me. It's ten years security. Like I said before,
Speaker 7: it's for my family, and it's for my future in
Speaker 7: the game. I'm luck you said, they've got Caleb Punger
Speaker 7: at the back, and you know Fletcher Sharp. He's an
Speaker 7: amazing player too. So obviously looked at those people.
Speaker 3: When I was making my decision, and yeah, I'm happy
Speaker 3: to go join them.
Speaker 7: A lot of the talking's actually been done by my manager,
Speaker 7: so that's why what took so long to make the decision.
Speaker 7: I wish I could have made it earlier to not
Speaker 7: disrupt the start of the season, but yeah, I had
Speaker 7: to take my time because it's obviously a pretty big deal.
Speaker 6: Haven't ready causes in that contract?
Speaker 3: I don't think that.
Speaker 7: No, crazy ones, how much does this club mean to you? Honestly,
Speaker 7: I've been here since I was fifteen. The decision wasn't easy,
Speaker 7: and the fans were one of the reasons why. You know,
Speaker 7: they've always backed me no matter what. You know, I
Speaker 7: never wanted to leave, and I had a few discussions
Speaker 7: with Parametter and they put for their.
Speaker 3: Best contract and the nights was just too hard to
Speaker 3: turn out ten years.
Speaker 7: There's a lot of trust to have any one and
Speaker 7: might have done that for me, has already done that
Speaker 7: before and they just couldn't compete this time. But there's
Speaker 7: nothing wrong with Parrots, you know, it's I still love them,
Speaker 7: still the club I'm going to be playing for this year,
Speaker 7: and I have a lot of respects. Obviously with you
Speaker 7: now leaving that leads a bit of a hole. Is
Speaker 7: that Is that something you weighed up in your decision
Speaker 7: making the process? Look No, not really obviously. Like I said,
Speaker 7: the opportunity for me was amazing, so I had to go.
Speaker 7: But whoever comes in, I'm sure they do a good job.
Speaker 7: And we've obviously got three young halves as well in
Speaker 7: our team that can also step up next. Yes, So
Speaker 7: you know, success doesn't happen overnight. So obviously when I
Speaker 7: go there, it's going to be it's going to take
Speaker 7: a while. Good things could happen. It might be a
Speaker 7: bit rockie, but at the ever start, but you know,
Speaker 7: we're going to obviously go there in the preseason and
Speaker 7: focus on that then, but at the moment. You know,
Speaker 7: I've got a season to focus on now, and I've
Speaker 7: got to pay good footing.
Speaker 3: There he is the man of the moment, Brown insisting
Speaker 3: that it wasn't all about the money. Now, we can't
Speaker 3: begrudge him for taking the deal more, there's no doubt
Speaker 3: about that. But do we believe that it wasn't about
Speaker 3: the money.
Speaker 4: Well, it is about the money, because that's why we
Speaker 4: all go to work. We go to work the own money.
Speaker 4: But that's not Yeah, you can't hold grudges again. Seem
Speaker 4: he got thirteen million dollars. Every player in the game
Speaker 4: would have probably taken a deal. We had a couple
Speaker 4: of players on yet last night and they would have
Speaker 4: taken the deal as well. So it's it's not his fault.
Speaker 4: I would have taken a deal as well.
Speaker 5: I get what he means though, that it's not necessary
Speaker 5: about the money that got the deal done. It's the
Speaker 5: length of the contract, because I think if Paramatta went
Speaker 5: to ten years on money less than what Newcastle Knights
Speaker 5: off money no less than what Newcastle Knights offered, I
Speaker 5: think he would have stayed.
Speaker 3: So when he says, come on me, I think it's both.
Speaker 4: I think it's definitely.
Speaker 6: You're right, it's the length of the contract. That's what
Speaker 6: he's talking about. The money's great, right, has he had
Speaker 6: a long contract.
Speaker 4: He had a long contract, But on the length of
Speaker 4: the contract means that it's going to be millions, it's
Speaker 4: going to.
Speaker 5: Be Look, I understand all that, right, but I think
Speaker 5: deep down, if Paramatta went near the offer, and particularly
Speaker 5: the length of the deal, I think he stays at Paramatta.
Speaker 5: So when he says it's not about the money, I
Speaker 5: think he's indicating more towards the length of the deal
Speaker 5: rather than as much as it was.
Speaker 1: I think it is about the money. Of course, it's
Speaker 1: about the money. You're right about the length of term.
Speaker 1: But he was signed at Paramatter until the end of
Speaker 1: twenty thirty one anyway, so he had guaranteed a long
Speaker 1: term future at that joint. So I think, without a
Speaker 1: doubt break of course, it's the cash, and then it's
Speaker 1: also the fact that he's solidifies himself for.
Speaker 3: The next ten seasons. He didn't need to explain anymore.
Speaker 3: Like he said. He so contradicted himself because he said,
Speaker 3: I want to set up my family and myself, and
Speaker 3: that's fine, but it's not about the money. Well, it
Speaker 3: is because you actually want to set up your family
Speaker 3: and grudges.
Speaker 6: Everyone's taking that deal right.
Speaker 3: I didn't need to actually.
Speaker 6: About the money. But I think what he meant was
Speaker 6: the ten year deal that was too good to refuse.
Speaker 3: No one, no one in there, no one else is
Speaker 3: offering that. It's straight timing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Paramtter weren't going to go ten years. They just won't.
Speaker 6: They weren't going to do that. Had they had gone
Speaker 6: to that on the money that was on, he might
Speaker 6: have stayed.
Speaker 3: Okay, Now, Knights Legends, they're not all on the same
Speaker 3: page with this. Some like the fact that he's going
Speaker 3: there and at that amount of money for that term deal,
Speaker 3: and some don't. What does that say.
Speaker 5: I don't think anyone's sitting here comfortable with the ten years.
Speaker 5: I don't think anyone's going to say that's exactly what
Speaker 5: they should have done.
Speaker 6: It's what they needed to do.
Speaker 5: But in an ideal world, they would have signed him
Speaker 5: for five, six, seven years and not gone to the
Speaker 5: ten years. So I can understand the criticism of it,
Speaker 5: because but.
Speaker 4: Why didn't they sign him for five SI he wouldn't
Speaker 4: have gone, He wouldn't have gone.
Speaker 6: He wouldn't have gone there.
Speaker 1: He needed to turn his head, Gordy like they needed
Speaker 1: a circuit breakout to be able to get him out
Speaker 1: of where he was.
Speaker 6: It wasn't about the money, because if he gave, if
Speaker 6: they offered him.
Speaker 3: For how long can we move on from it?
Speaker 1: Clearly it's about the money.
Speaker 6: It's about the length. Number one is the length.
Speaker 1: It's also about the length. The length then the cash
Speaker 1: had a massive fact of course.
Speaker 5: Of course it does, right, but it's over the period.
Speaker 5: So if you say, if they offered him six years,
Speaker 5: would he have gone at that money?
Speaker 3: He was sworn until twenty thirty, all right.
Speaker 6: So they went to twenty thirty one at the same money,
Speaker 6: would he have gone.
Speaker 3: To a point where you know, because he's on a
Speaker 3: million year anyway, right, So I'm sure Paramatta would have said,
Speaker 3: we'll give you an extra hundred or something like that.
Speaker 6: But I don't think that they wouldn't. I think that
Speaker 6: was a million maybe.
Speaker 5: I think it got to one point one at some
Speaker 5: stage that deal, right that the current deal that he
Speaker 5: was on a pass.
Speaker 8: Two hundred after over a few years. The length, yeah, well,
Speaker 8: those extra years its significant. It is significant, no doubt.
Speaker 8: But if Newcastle at the same length as Paramatter. He
Speaker 8: stays at the elves and coming back to.
Speaker 4: The old boys, right, I think Newcastle playing against them
Speaker 4: in their heyday it was about all their or their
Speaker 4: local juniors and that's what made their club tick and
Speaker 4: they were playing for the community. Well, they got Ponger
Speaker 4: and if they keep on signing these these big name kids,
Speaker 4: which is fine because they want to win competitions, but
Speaker 4: if they lose their local juniors and their identity, I
Speaker 4: think that's that's the part. They've got to be careful
Speaker 4: with the Knights.
Speaker 1: It's a good point and the fact that it is
Speaker 1: divided amongst the old boys that reflects the widespread reaction
Speaker 1: around the game. There have been two schools of thought.
Speaker 1: Some people in other rival clubs think it's complete madness.
Speaker 1: When you actually get the calculator out, it works out
Speaker 1: to be twenty three percent of Newcastle salary cap Dylan
Speaker 1: Brown and Kyle and Ponger for the next.
Speaker 6: Paramatter no, I.
Speaker 5: Mean sorry, us will compete in against Paramatter. The offer
Speaker 5: that was already on the table from Paramount. There was
Speaker 5: no one else involved. It was either Newcastle Paramatter, but
Speaker 5: Paramatta had that deal ready on the table for Dylan.
Speaker 6: So that's what they'll competing against.
Speaker 3: All ready reveals hybrid halfback plan. Can we explain this one?
Speaker 3: It was in today's paper, dar Telegraphy.
Speaker 1: I was a little bit confused by this breath. I
Speaker 1: was going to come back to yourself because you played
Speaker 1: in the Hearts. I've never heard of a hybrid halfback
Speaker 1: position previously. But clearly what Newcastle have sold Dylan is
Speaker 1: that Fletcher Sharp is going to be in the halves,
Speaker 1: he'll partner him, and then Calen Palmer is going to
Speaker 1: be the fullback.
Speaker 3: How that all fits together? I read this this morning
Speaker 3: and I believe because Dylan. First thing, if you're a
Speaker 3: six and you going to a new club on a
Speaker 3: long term deal, you're asking who the seven is going
Speaker 3: to be. So I believe that's what he would have done.
Speaker 3: He would have said, we who's going to be playing seven?
Speaker 3: And they're trying to sell sharfter him and obviously Caln's
Speaker 3: an easy sell. I mean it speaks for he speaks
Speaker 3: for himself. So they've probably put a game plan to
Speaker 3: him that suggests that he can play like a seven
Speaker 3: six and then share that with Sharp and Ponger and responsibilities,
Speaker 3: you know, both across the park.
Speaker 4: You've been a grade six. How important is a seven?
Speaker 4: I watched Alon Lager combined with Lori daily, two of
Speaker 4: the greats. It didn't work, but Ricky and Laurie working,
Speaker 4: Elf and Kevy work, you know two V and Kiffy
Speaker 4: Lyons work.
Speaker 3: It's it's I think it's very important. You know, whenever
Speaker 3: I played my best my career, I had branch Sha
Speaker 3: and inside of me. He was completely controlling the kicking
Speaker 3: game and game plans along with myself, but he was
Speaker 3: the dominant one there, especially with his kicking game and
Speaker 3: getting in the forwards obviously had a good forward pack.
Speaker 3: And the other example is Andrew John's in Origin. When
Speaker 3: I played with him, it was like he controlled the
Speaker 3: team like it was like a game of chess for him.
Speaker 3: He was three or four steps ahead, and I just
Speaker 3: had to worry about my job at six, which made
Speaker 3: it so much easier.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned Joey because this is aside from
Speaker 1: the money and the length of term that Dylan saw
Speaker 1: for He's going to have to wear that seven jumper.
Speaker 1: That's what's going to happen here. And the Brown camp
Speaker 1: are now quite actively pushing the fact that he actually
Speaker 1: came through throughout the juniors as a halfback, as did
Speaker 1: Fletcher Sharp as well. He played the predominantly all of
Speaker 1: his football in the halves until he was shifted the wing.
Speaker 3: Of seven or six.
Speaker 1: Seven, Well, well for Brown, let's stick with Brown.
Speaker 3: For Brown, right, he was a seven.
Speaker 1: So the question is going to be if he's going
Speaker 1: to wear that jumper that Joey has made famous and
Speaker 1: they haven't won a premiership since Joey last war that
Speaker 1: jumper all the way back in two thousand and one,
Speaker 1: how's this hybrid halfback role going to work? Surely you
Speaker 1: can't be half in half out when it comes to
Speaker 1: who's the dominant half The word.
Speaker 5: That us control, who's controling that side, who's running that side?
Speaker 3: That's going to be because why I mentioned Sharp is
Speaker 3: because Sharp as great as he's playing at the moment,
Speaker 3: and he will continue because I think he's a great talent.
Speaker 3: He's a runner, He's the furthest thing from a control half,
Speaker 3: like you know, look at him. He's taking dummy ass
Speaker 3: scoots on the weekend and he was getting quick play
Speaker 3: of the balls. He was making meters and he was
Speaker 3: eating them up and he's got to be in the team.
Speaker 3: But you know, Dylan has shown in the past that
Speaker 3: it's not his strong point, like you know Moses when
Speaker 3: he's been out in the success rates being poor on
Speaker 3: the weekend we saw it against Melbourne, like he didn't
Speaker 3: take control. It's not his natural game. So I don't
Speaker 3: think we should read too much in the Ready's article
Speaker 3: into the hybrid thing. I think that was them trying
Speaker 3: to sell to deal and listen, come to the club,
Speaker 3: will work it out. This is our ideas and Blake
Speaker 3: Green mind you, because I spoke with Blake not throughout
Speaker 3: the offseason in terms of a few players I've got,
Speaker 3: and I spoke to the club about him. They've got
Speaker 3: big wraps on him and all the players love him
Speaker 3: and he's he's highly regarded as one of the best
Speaker 3: up and coming coaches coming through and he's obviously specialized
Speaker 3: on the halfs. So I think Blake, if he can
Speaker 3: get his you know, he's mind ticking over the this
Speaker 3: year in the pre season. He brings he holds a
Speaker 3: lot of power and value up there in Newcastle. I
Speaker 3: think he can work out a system and a way
Speaker 3: of which they can bring Dylan in and get the
Speaker 3: most out of him, but he's going to have to
Speaker 3: change the way that he plays. I think, yeah, you're
Speaker 3: spot on it.
Speaker 1: I think the hybrid half is a spin because they've
Speaker 1: got to try and keep the side together this year,
Speaker 1: and they tried eleven different halves combinations last year not
Speaker 1: really any of them worked.
Speaker 3: And they want to please the other two they're talking
Speaker 3: about as well. You know, they want to keep them
Speaker 3: happy and make sure that they you know, they are
Speaker 3: comfortable with Dylan coming.
Speaker 4: Okay, Brath, you were sixth if he went to seven,
Speaker 4: how long would it take you?
Speaker 3: It takes time. It takes It's like, you know, you
Speaker 3: look at the grade sevens, even the great sevens, like
Speaker 3: how long is clearly is actually an exception to the rule.
Speaker 3: Like he has peaked very good and just gone to
Speaker 3: John's all of them like he's like they all look
Speaker 3: at Joey and JT. They all play their best late
Speaker 3: twenties early thirties for Cooper Krong, all of them. So
Speaker 3: there's a lot of work to be done then. Now,
Speaker 3: despitely any a prize signing for next season, nice coach
Speaker 3: Adam O'Brien wasn't in the mood to talk about it.
Speaker 3: Adam will just get out of the way.
Speaker 9: Killan Brown.
Speaker 3: There's been a lot of talk about him. What do
Speaker 3: you like that?
Speaker 9: And as a player, I'm not talking about Dylan Brown.
Speaker 9: I'm willing to talk about the Dolphins round one here.
Speaker 9: The Dylan Brown situations got a process to go through,
Speaker 9: and I reckon I'll respect that process outside of the process.
Speaker 8: So him maturely is a player that you've seen in
Speaker 8: a cross seasons and across games.
Speaker 3: Com up against you who talk to me about his style?
Speaker 9: Is there anything Joe watching, I'll find a different way
Speaker 9: to give you the same answer. I'll talk about the
Speaker 9: Dolphins and Tomorrow night. For now, we'll talk about Dylan.
Speaker 9: I understand their question, but the club there will come
Speaker 9: a time and place to talk about Dylan, But right
Speaker 9: now I'm focused on Tomorrow night with the halves that
Speaker 9: we have there.
Speaker 3: kJ O Brien very hesitant to talk about the prize
Speaker 3: signing of Dylan Brown. Yeah, I suppose. I understand they
Speaker 3: want to focus on this week's game and they want
Speaker 3: to be seen to be focusing on that to the
Speaker 3: other players in the group, and there's a job at hand.
Speaker 3: But I would have thought just maybe a quick touch,
Speaker 3: quick look. It's a huge signing for the club. It's
Speaker 3: a massive moment.
Speaker 1: We'll get through it when he arrives as all over
Speaker 1: the summer, but for now we're focused on the immediate.
Speaker 1: We've got a game tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Getting through it, right, spreading around here, But.
Speaker 1: I think you'd be naive to think as if the
Speaker 1: dressing room isn't speaking about it every five seconds. So
Speaker 1: I think you probably could have handled that just a
Speaker 1: little bit different.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the only thing is to bracepoint exactly.
Speaker 5: They played the Dolphins tomorrow and the fact that you know,
Speaker 5: Paramounta probably hadn't officially waived waved the ten day cooling
Speaker 5: off periods, So maybe they're a little bit they will
Speaker 5: go into a year whether or not they're formally work
Speaker 5: they're going to do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And they would have like it wouldn't have just
Speaker 3: a Brian saying this is how we're going to do it.
Speaker 3: They would have had a meeting with Peter Parker and
Speaker 3: you know everyone up there said how were going to
Speaker 3: handle this today? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Of course it is delicate for the Knights there at
Speaker 5: the moment, right because you've got a half back Jack
Speaker 5: Holu probably went, you know, won't start. The guy's been
Speaker 5: brought in over the top, and then you've got guys
Speaker 5: that are on the way out. Jaden Brayley is going
Speaker 5: to can brother Jackson Hastens won't be there, Adam Elliot,
Speaker 5: Jack Heatherington. So it's a tiptoe line here now for
Speaker 5: the Newcastle Knights on regarding how they approach this season
Speaker 5: knowing that they've got this Marque guy coming right now.
Speaker 3: If they lose Ponger, this is you know, let's talk
Speaker 3: about this because there's there is rumors still that Kaylon
Speaker 3: is one hundred happy and we're not just making this
Speaker 3: up right papers again, He's in the papers again. You know,
Speaker 3: other reporters have reported on it, and the rumors have
Speaker 3: been going for a while now. And I think I think, firstly,
Speaker 3: because Brown goes there, does that mean Calen definitely stays?
Speaker 3: And what happens if that's not the case and Calen leaves,
Speaker 3: you know, like he's that a possibility?
Speaker 1: What do we think We signed until the end of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven at the moment, caln so he's got
Speaker 1: the rest of this year plus two, that's all locked away.
Speaker 1: But we have seen over the years that at stages
Speaker 1: if players do become agitated and they decide that they're
Speaker 1: not happy with the direction of the club, then they
Speaker 1: will try and manipulate and find a way to possibly
Speaker 1: exit early. You're right, Braith, it has been in the papers,
Speaker 1: it continues to go around that possibly the Roosters are
Speaker 1: looking at him. I think the primary reason for that
Speaker 1: link is that one of their football managers at the moment,
Speaker 1: one of their recruitment officers, Clinton Zammett, has had a
Speaker 1: huge involvement with Calen all throughout the course of his career,
Speaker 1: dating back to the Cowboys, then also with his most
Speaker 1: recent deal at the Knights.
Speaker 3: Now he's at the Children. I think that was the
Speaker 3: one that got Calen to Newcastle, that big signing from
Speaker 3: the Cowboys the young gun, right, was that right?
Speaker 1: I think he signed him initially at the Cowboys right
Speaker 1: then he did his most recent deal at newcast so
Speaker 1: he made him the highest paid back.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So I think Newcastle more worried about Callan going to
Speaker 5: go play rugby than to a rival an roll club
Speaker 5: that they don't hear. They've heard the innuendo of course externally,
Speaker 5: but internally they're quite comfortable with their position. But back
Speaker 5: to your point, if he does leave, I don't think
Speaker 5: the Dylan Brown signed and.
Speaker 4: The way he played on the weekend, if I'm a
Speaker 4: Knights fan, I don't believe it. He had a Red
Speaker 4: Holk crack. Yeah you know, I mean so so, the
Speaker 4: way he put his body on the line, I don't
Speaker 4: think that he wants to stay the Knights. Fingers crossed
Speaker 4: for Knights fans.
Speaker 3: Last year, you two had a little bit of a
Speaker 3: few going the Banker and the bean with the paramos,
Speaker 3: the board members.
Speaker 5: But it's already rubbed off because he's getting the calculator
Speaker 5: out with Brown, percentage of the salary cap is back on.
Speaker 3: No, we're all good, I still think.
Speaker 1: And this Dylan Brown signing vindicates it. That contracts the
Speaker 1: worst contract in the history of the game, putting those
Speaker 1: clauses in it because it wasn't a nine year deal,
Speaker 1: it was essentially only a two year deal. And now
Speaker 1: because of that asterisk, he's exercised the option and he's
Speaker 1: ultimately gone to another club.
Speaker 5: Too many players with too many clauses, there's no doubt
Speaker 5: about that, right, and they know that they had too
Speaker 5: many players.
Speaker 4: Like so clubs have handcuffs on them because they need
Speaker 4: to sign the player. Is there a chance that the
Speaker 4: NRL step in and go, we're not going to register
Speaker 4: any clauses, Like, we've got to give something back to
Speaker 4: the fans. I heard Peter VLANDI sit here and say
Speaker 4: the fans are like, Man, I've listened to players, but
Speaker 4: I wanted to listen to the fans. Do you think
Speaker 4: the fans like this? It's round one. We're talking about
Speaker 4: players moving around when they got two years.
Speaker 3: A great idea.
Speaker 1: God, I'd love to see it happen. If the NRL
Speaker 1: did decide, you know what, from now on there are
Speaker 1: no more exit options or anything like that. A deal
Speaker 1: is a deal you signed from twenty twenty five until
Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3: Three years. I hope not, because they will have a
Speaker 3: boring tariff. Keep those pauses coming business year, all right.
Speaker 3: The nrol's new ruling on coaches talking about referees say
Speaker 3: half the game.
Speaker 5: Andrew Abdo send this email out to all club chief
Speaker 5: executives on Monday, and he essentially told him that any
Speaker 5: coach or official that makes a comment regarding the referees
Speaker 5: or match officials after the game will face sanctions. So
Speaker 5: we've seen it probably what three or four years ago
Speaker 5: where Todd Greenberg came out and had a blanket rule.
Speaker 5: So and you cannot talk about coaches, referees, whatsoever. And
Speaker 5: for that season or two it's sort of, you know,
Speaker 5: we didn't really speak here the coaches speak about the referees.
Speaker 5: And then the last you know, twelve months or twenty
Speaker 5: four months, it's gone back to the way the original
Speaker 5: rule was, where as long as you didn't slam them
Speaker 5: or you know, talk about their reputation, you got away
Speaker 5: with it.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, are we going to go back to the
Speaker 3: bad old days with DESI? Let's have a look.
Speaker 10: Comes to understanding the policy about he's whose name you
Speaker 10: cannot mention.
Speaker 4: So let's callin Valdemoret.
Speaker 10: I clearly understand the policy paragraphs thirty one sub course
Speaker 10: to the comment on moons. Just that so you can't
Speaker 10: say anything nice about them, you can't say anything positive
Speaker 10: about them, you can't say anything about the bolden Woods.
Speaker 10: It's just going to follow the policy about it. Here's
Speaker 10: whose name we cannot mention. That's what they think is
Speaker 10: pragmatic and reasonable. If you're never good for free speech,
Speaker 10: it's not too good.
Speaker 5: That press conference, and as the question i'd never watched
Speaker 5: Harry Potters, I wrang, I've got no idea what is
Speaker 5: going on about here? But that's that's the situation we're
Speaker 5: going to find ourselves in, right, the fact that the
Speaker 5: coaches are going to have to try and tiptoe around
Speaker 5: this because we're still going to.
Speaker 3: Ask the questions what's the reasoning behind me?
Speaker 5: In that email, Andrew Abdough points to media attention and
Speaker 5: negative fans engagement.
Speaker 4: I don't think it helps. I really don't think it helps.
Speaker 4: Gone to junior rugby league. It does filter down, even
Speaker 4: though they're two totally different games, right, one so fun
Speaker 4: and one is professionally there. But I don't Every single
Speaker 4: losing coach has to talk about a decision not there.
Speaker 4: And I think it's only going to help the referees
Speaker 4: and will help the game really personally. Yes, well, because
Speaker 4: the first comte yes, one of the first coming and
Speaker 4: I've got hitty on was with Laney Laney and the
Speaker 4: John Lane told me something. He goes, how's it going
Speaker 4: to change his decision next?
Speaker 3: It's not. It's not so like you know, all access right,
Speaker 3: like the fans actually want to see press conferences and
Speaker 3: see what's the drama, and it's all about TV watching.
Speaker 4: It's not going to stop fans from talking about it.
Speaker 4: It's going to stop coaches from blaming the loss on it.
Speaker 3: But Gaudy were both.
Speaker 1: Old enough and ugly enough to remember saying I hope
Speaker 1: the Cemit truck hits Bill Harrigan on the way hard.
Speaker 1: Those days are long long gone and we're never going
Speaker 1: to go back anywhere near that. But I still think
Speaker 1: that it is fair enough. If it's a nine to
Speaker 1: one penalty count, I think that's a legitimate question. Or
Speaker 1: if there's an incident like what happened on the weekend
Speaker 1: with the penalty try with Stephen Crichton and Christian Topolotto.
Speaker 1: Well that's a legitimate question of press conference, and the
Speaker 1: coaches are entitled to answer.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I agree, and so that decision I need an
Speaker 4: explanation for on Monday.
Speaker 5: But apparently they can't say any of that, right, so
Speaker 5: you guys can't even ask the quill.
Speaker 6: Still we can ask it, and it would be up
Speaker 6: to the coaches to see how they tipped.
Speaker 3: Around, throw the fishing right out and try and get
Speaker 3: one of them.
Speaker 4: Fine, start watching Harry Potter, All right, any.
Speaker 3: News on Brandon Smiths.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as we've been saying for the past week, I
Speaker 1: think all roads are definitely leading to Heafron Park and
Speaker 1: the South Sidney Rabbits. Crazy to think given the rivalry
Speaker 1: between the Chuks and the Bunnies over the years, but
Speaker 1: the way it's shaping up at the moment, South's are
Speaker 1: just having a look at Brandon's medical records over the
Speaker 1: course of the next week or two. I think this
Speaker 1: deal in all likelihood will be done within the next fortnight.
Speaker 1: It'll be a two year contract for twenty six and
Speaker 1: twenty seven, and I think that in all likelihood Brandon
Speaker 1: plays hooker so he fits into the dummi half roll
Speaker 1: at South Sydney, and then it'll be a matter of
Speaker 1: whether the Roosters and Souths can break bread to a
Speaker 1: degree and agree to some sort of uneasy truce for
Speaker 1: Brandon to possibly leave early if the Roosters are open
Speaker 1: to that. But the roosters would have to be open
Speaker 1: to it.
Speaker 4: It would be a crazy deal for Saus, wouldn't it
Speaker 4: coming back from an A C L not going to
Speaker 4: be at your best.
Speaker 5: On how much you have to put in it. All
Speaker 5: depends on the price. They're not going to be able
Speaker 5: to stump up too much for this year and.
Speaker 3: I can't and ther is paying sous.
Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting because initially they said absolutely
Speaker 1: point blank noway last year, but there's a view that
Speaker 1: that might have softened to a degree and that maybe
Speaker 1: they just want to go in a completely different direction.
Speaker 1: To your point, Gordy about whether it's good turning or not,
Speaker 1: I actually think it can be. Like Brandon, he was
Speaker 1: a deem good player at the Melbourne Storm, He's a
Speaker 1: premiership winner. He hasn't forgotten how to play. For whatever reason,
Speaker 1: it hasn't worked out at the Chucks, but I think
Speaker 1: change of environment, different coach.
Speaker 3: Could be very good. Sill down a little bit on this.
Speaker 3: He was a highly touted you know, arguably by the
Speaker 3: year at the time the Roosters to sign Brendan Smith
Speaker 3: from Melbourne. He was starting behind Harry Grant in Melbourne.
Speaker 3: He believed he was a starting nine at a premier club.
Speaker 3: The Roosters go and pay big dollars for him, and
Speaker 3: now it ends like this, it's.
Speaker 5: Kind of but they got it wrong, right. You can
Speaker 5: sit down and dissect this sign and all you like,
Speaker 5: they got that one wrong. And it's interesting the fact
Speaker 5: that he was going to go to the Dolphins under
Speaker 5: Wayne Bennett and it was only a meeting with Trent
Speaker 5: Robinson which swayed him late to join the Roosters.
Speaker 6: But it hasn't worked out for either party.
Speaker 5: And it goes back to the question is you know,
Speaker 5: I honestly think he's a better running thirteen than he
Speaker 5: will work at the house.
Speaker 1: Then I think Wayne Bennett's got a great track record
Speaker 1: with players who have had challenges and have had hurdles,
Speaker 1: and he'd hurdles and gone a little bit sideways.
Speaker 3: It's proven it is scoring.
Speaker 1: You've seen it first.
Speaker 4: I've seen the.
Speaker 1: O become an acl and an over the course of
Speaker 1: the last nine months.
Speaker 3: But I just get to feel confirm they're buying him
Speaker 3: as a nine to two. That's what I got told.
Speaker 4: But in my opinion right, Brandon Smith's never been an
Speaker 4: eighty minute player. When you watch him at Melbourne Storm,
Speaker 4: Harry Grant played or Cameron Smith, he'd come on and
Speaker 4: for that thirty minutes we just go well, like the
Speaker 4: one bat he'd be burrowing through with he'd either like
Speaker 4: take a hit up where you do a second dummy
Speaker 4: half runt. He wasn't a guy starting settling his way
Speaker 4: into a game, kicking and passing. He was just a
Speaker 4: pure that's what and then that's what they bought and
Speaker 4: try to turn him into an eighty minute player. I
Speaker 4: think he's a I think he's a great thirty to
Speaker 4: forty minute player.
Speaker 3: All right. Now, does the pressure start to ramp up
Speaker 3: on Benji if the Tigers don't start winning games.
Speaker 1: That.
Speaker 3: I say that for a few reasons, because look at
Speaker 3: the jaw they've got, right, They've got a pretty good draw,
Speaker 3: as you can say are here. They're coming up against
Speaker 3: Paramounta this weekend. They had a strong started the last year.
Speaker 3: Last week sorry against the Knights, I couldn't get it done,
Speaker 3: which is okay because they're a new team now, they've
Speaker 3: got Buller and Chorus are coming back in. They've got
Speaker 3: their strongest, arguably the strongest lineup that they can put
Speaker 3: on a footy field. If they start, you know, one
Speaker 3: from three, there's going to be.
Speaker 1: Pressure, right, no question, bra Look, it's going to be
Speaker 1: one of the bigger narratives of the year. I think
Speaker 1: Shane Richardson said over the course of the summer that
Speaker 1: with those two players you just mentioned there, Jerream Buller
Speaker 1: and Happy Corus, how neither of which played last week.
Speaker 1: I think he labeled at the best sport. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I mean that's a lot of one of the responds
Speaker 1: in the competition and on Yeah, I think we'll give
Speaker 1: in the benefit of the but you do look at
Speaker 1: that spot and look it's a lait app. He's a
Speaker 1: premiership winner, Jerames, a premiership winner, dreams an emerging star
Speaker 1: as his lucky Galvin. So you're they have got an
Speaker 1: easier draw to start the year off the back of
Speaker 1: three wooden spoons, so there's no doubt they have to win.
Speaker 3: This is by no means do I think they're going
Speaker 3: to have a poor start. I don't actually think they'll
Speaker 3: win a fair few of these games. I'm only saying
Speaker 3: that the scenario with the squad they've got, the draw
Speaker 3: they've got, it's only going to get harder as a season.
Speaker 4: They need wins Broncos and Chucks. They should back themselves
Speaker 4: to win every other game. You would think if I'm
Speaker 4: a Tigers fan and if I'm a Tiger's player, Yeah.
Speaker 5: They had reasons for their poor attack last week, but
Speaker 5: they didn't have reasons for their poor defense, and that
Speaker 5: was the concerning thing, because you know, you pull the
Speaker 5: one and nine out of any starting spine and your
Speaker 5: attack's going to be disjointed. Lewi and Galvin haven't had
Speaker 5: a lot of reps to together because Louis had that
Speaker 5: injury after that Army camp.
Speaker 6: But that defense was poor and that's what they need
Speaker 6: to fix.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I know it's only around two, but it is
Speaker 3: a huge game for the West Tigers already. Now I
Speaker 3: keep playing matchups brought to you by Ossie Broadband.
Speaker 1: A huge game, the four time premiers up against the Chucks,
Speaker 1: and the Chucks are really up against it. I'm saying
Speaker 1: New South Wales and Kangaroo team mates Angus Crichton and
Speaker 1: Liam Martin, both edge back rowers, probably the two best
Speaker 1: backgrowers in the competition. How much of an influence Angus
Speaker 1: can have given all the troops that the Chucks are missing.
Speaker 1: Not sure, but that'll be a hell.
Speaker 3: Of a battle.
Speaker 6: Yeah, this one's gone under the radar a little bit.
Speaker 5: The Sofiti boys get to go head to head against
Speaker 5: each other for the first time tomorrow night. I've spoken
Speaker 5: with Daniel for tomorrow's paper and they said that the
Speaker 5: boys have made a pack first kickoff, they're going straight
Speaker 5: for each other, so stay tuned for that one.
Speaker 3: Good looking forward to that. Thank you Mit, are you hoops?
Speaker 3: That's Danny? Thank you to the journals up next to
Speaker 3: the Legends Agenda with Billy Moore and Jeff too.