1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:25,041 Speaker 1: Apod Shape Production. Welcome back to another episode about I 2 00:00:25,161 --> 00:00:29,361 Speaker 1: a Bad Mom Podcast. That's the question we constantly. 3 00:00:28,921 --> 00:00:30,321 Speaker 2: Ask, am I a bad mom? 4 00:00:30,401 --> 00:00:30,601 Speaker 1: More? 5 00:00:30,761 --> 00:00:33,841 Speaker 2: Am I am? I? Should I have done it a 6 00:00:33,881 --> 00:00:34,921 Speaker 2: little bit differently? 7 00:00:35,441 --> 00:00:37,561 Speaker 1: Well, they say that kids all they need. 8 00:00:37,361 --> 00:00:41,561 Speaker 3: Is love, love, and behundaries, of course, always boundaries. 9 00:00:41,641 --> 00:00:44,161 Speaker 1: I mean we may forget a packed lunch every now and. 10 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:45,561 Speaker 2: There, or a Touch Shop order. 11 00:00:46,241 --> 00:00:48,761 Speaker 3: Now that we're back at school, I can definitely fuck 12 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:49,801 Speaker 3: up a tuck Shop order. 13 00:00:50,001 --> 00:00:51,361 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that whole like. 14 00:00:51,441 --> 00:00:53,721 Speaker 3: Yep, no, I'm pretty sure I did it, But don't 15 00:00:53,721 --> 00:00:55,681 Speaker 3: go and check because you think in that part of 16 00:00:55,721 --> 00:00:57,481 Speaker 3: your brain you're like, no, I'm pretty sure I did it. 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,481 Speaker 1: At the girls' school, they are able to go and 18 00:01:00,521 --> 00:01:03,161 Speaker 1: get alone, which really annoys me because it's not them 19 00:01:03,241 --> 00:01:04,721 Speaker 1: they have to pay it back. It's me. 20 00:01:05,161 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 3: I was just going to say, a loan or at 21 00:01:06,921 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 3: the Touch shop. Yeah, oh, so they can just go 22 00:01:08,961 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 3: and get whatever they want. 23 00:01:09,881 --> 00:01:11,321 Speaker 1: They can get a Touch Shop loan if they don't 24 00:01:11,321 --> 00:01:13,801 Speaker 1: have any money on them. Yeah, but there's a rule. 25 00:01:14,081 --> 00:01:17,321 Speaker 1: It has to be something that's actually substantial food. They're 26 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,481 Speaker 1: not allowed to get a Touch Shop loan and get 27 00:01:19,681 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: drinks or like fizzy drinks or chocolate or chips or anything. 28 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a genuine piece, like actual lunch. Yeah right, Okay, 29 00:01:29,321 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 3: that's a great system. 30 00:01:30,961 --> 00:01:33,601 Speaker 1: It's great until then you get an email saying just 31 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: to let you know you DOCT loans and you owe 32 00:01:36,521 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: this amount of money. You're like what, I was like, 33 00:01:38,801 --> 00:01:41,801 Speaker 1: stop let it. Honestly I was going to email back 34 00:01:41,801 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: once I was going to go. Doesn't matter if they've 35 00:01:43,881 --> 00:01:46,001 Speaker 1: forgotten lunch, don't let them have anything. 36 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,201 Speaker 3: You should be emailing that and saying no. Look, the 37 00:01:49,281 --> 00:01:52,521 Speaker 3: system in our house is that they pack their own lunches, 38 00:01:52,641 --> 00:01:54,561 Speaker 3: and so when they don't have their own lunch, it's 39 00:01:54,561 --> 00:01:55,201 Speaker 3: their owns. 40 00:01:55,441 --> 00:01:57,881 Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's the problem. So they do do their 41 00:01:57,921 --> 00:02:01,081 Speaker 1: own lunch boxes now. But there's definitely been moments where 42 00:02:01,081 --> 00:02:03,001 Speaker 1: I've gone, you're not gonna have enough time to do 43 00:02:03,001 --> 00:02:04,561 Speaker 1: your lunch, and they'll go, oh, it's all right, I 44 00:02:04,641 --> 00:02:06,721 Speaker 1: just want to and I'm like no, because then you're 45 00:02:06,721 --> 00:02:08,801 Speaker 1: going to go and get alone, and then I'm going 46 00:02:08,881 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: to be paying for it. Don't let my kids eat. 47 00:02:14,121 --> 00:02:15,601 Speaker 2: Full stop? No more. 48 00:02:25,481 --> 00:02:28,281 Speaker 1: Am I about a mom for saying no to personal loans? 49 00:02:29,481 --> 00:02:30,361 Speaker 2: Personal lines? 50 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:31,081 Speaker 1: Yeah? 51 00:02:31,121 --> 00:02:32,481 Speaker 2: How much I am asking for. 52 00:02:32,641 --> 00:02:35,601 Speaker 1: Well, this is the thing. So I've started this now, 53 00:02:35,641 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: and even in the back of my head, I'm going, 54 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,881 Speaker 1: you wanted something for so long and now it's happened, 55 00:02:43,401 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: just be happy with it instead of constantly wanting more 56 00:02:46,161 --> 00:02:48,761 Speaker 1: from them. So I was banging on and on and 57 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: on about them getting a job. 58 00:02:50,121 --> 00:02:54,281 Speaker 2: So absolutely, yes, they've both got jobs. Wonderful, even better. 59 00:02:54,401 --> 00:02:58,961 Speaker 1: Yeah, part time casual jobs, which is great. Amelia has 60 00:02:59,001 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: had like five shifts now, Holly's waiting for her first shift. 61 00:03:04,641 --> 00:03:08,081 Speaker 1: And and what I'm finding with Amelia is so she 62 00:03:08,881 --> 00:03:12,481 Speaker 1: has stuff that she wants to buy. Concert tickets is 63 00:03:12,641 --> 00:03:14,681 Speaker 1: the first thing, and then she wants to start saving 64 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,241 Speaker 1: towards a car. And so I'm like, great, you know, 65 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,601 Speaker 1: as a general rule, maybe save half, spend half her 66 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: first pay. She was so excited. She's like, I've been paid, 67 00:03:26,081 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: Like she just like when that hit the bank account. Yeah, 68 00:03:29,281 --> 00:03:30,841 Speaker 1: And she even said to me, She's like, I just 69 00:03:30,841 --> 00:03:33,121 Speaker 1: feel so good that it's I've actually earned it and 70 00:03:33,161 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: it's not from you. And I was like, oh God, 71 00:03:34,881 --> 00:03:37,001 Speaker 1: I've been wanting to hear that for so long and 72 00:03:37,041 --> 00:03:40,721 Speaker 1: for you to understand that feeling. But what's happening now 73 00:03:41,321 --> 00:03:45,281 Speaker 1: is she's got a taste of knowing that she can 74 00:03:45,361 --> 00:03:49,641 Speaker 1: spend money, but she's not wanting to wait for payday, 75 00:03:50,161 --> 00:03:53,281 Speaker 1: so she's hitting us up to pay for things in 76 00:03:53,401 --> 00:03:56,161 Speaker 1: events and then she'll pay us back on payday. And 77 00:03:56,161 --> 00:03:59,321 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's not gonna work like that. So she'll go, oh, 78 00:03:59,361 --> 00:04:01,281 Speaker 1: I want to get this, and I go, you don't 79 00:04:01,281 --> 00:04:01,801 Speaker 1: have any money. 80 00:04:01,841 --> 00:04:02,121 Speaker 2: I do. 81 00:04:02,321 --> 00:04:05,161 Speaker 1: I do because I've got this coming. I'm owned. This 82 00:04:05,201 --> 00:04:07,641 Speaker 1: is so many shifts I've done. This is what's coming. 83 00:04:07,801 --> 00:04:10,001 Speaker 1: I went, yeah, but you don't have it yet, and 84 00:04:10,081 --> 00:04:12,041 Speaker 1: she's like, yes, but I do have it. 85 00:04:12,561 --> 00:04:13,281 Speaker 2: I do have it. 86 00:04:13,321 --> 00:04:14,121 Speaker 1: I've earned it. 87 00:04:14,441 --> 00:04:14,641 Speaker 3: Yeah. 88 00:04:14,761 --> 00:04:16,841 Speaker 1: I was like, where is it? Then, well, it's coming. 89 00:04:17,201 --> 00:04:20,641 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, but I can't go to Woollies and 90 00:04:20,761 --> 00:04:24,761 Speaker 1: do a shop, get to the checkout and go, you're 91 00:04:24,841 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: right if I pay for this next Wednesday when I 92 00:04:27,401 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: get paid, I'll just take it now. But it's coming, 93 00:04:30,361 --> 00:04:33,641 Speaker 1: like I've got the money. It doesn't work like that. 94 00:04:33,721 --> 00:04:35,601 Speaker 2: It does not work like that. 95 00:04:35,681 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: So I said, no more personal loans. And now there's 96 00:04:37,721 --> 00:04:40,961 Speaker 1: a concert that's been announced, and as we know, it's 97 00:04:41,001 --> 00:04:44,201 Speaker 1: bloody hard work to get tickets for a concert. End 98 00:04:44,281 --> 00:04:48,801 Speaker 1: up on that bloody ticket. I hate them, and you 99 00:04:48,921 --> 00:04:51,241 Speaker 1: literally have to sit on there all day. 100 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:52,121 Speaker 2: In a queue. 101 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,401 Speaker 3: Then it doesn't start until five pm or something like that, 102 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:56,761 Speaker 3: So you've sat all day. 103 00:04:56,921 --> 00:04:59,041 Speaker 1: And then it gives you a certain amount of time 104 00:04:59,801 --> 00:05:02,961 Speaker 1: once you're through, and then it's telling you how many 105 00:05:02,961 --> 00:05:04,601 Speaker 1: minutes you've got left, and then it's going to kick 106 00:05:04,641 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: you out. Where's the customer service in that? So bad? 107 00:05:08,081 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: I'm paying money here, I have. 108 00:05:09,681 --> 00:05:13,281 Speaker 1: Lots of money. Treat you like shit? 109 00:05:13,361 --> 00:05:15,961 Speaker 3: Those tickets, Yeah, they don't have to worry about it. 110 00:05:16,041 --> 00:05:18,121 Speaker 1: So anyway, there's a kind of a sense of urgency 111 00:05:18,281 --> 00:05:21,441 Speaker 1: if there's tickets that you really want for a specific artist, 112 00:05:21,481 --> 00:05:23,561 Speaker 1: because you have to jump on and get in there 113 00:05:23,561 --> 00:05:25,721 Speaker 1: and you're going to miss out. And so now I'm 114 00:05:25,761 --> 00:05:30,361 Speaker 1: in that situation. So now she's begging us please, I'm like, 115 00:05:30,361 --> 00:05:31,601 Speaker 1: but you don't have any money. 116 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,921 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I do, But you don't. No, No you don't. 117 00:05:35,001 --> 00:05:36,281 Speaker 2: Did you pay for them? No? 118 00:05:36,401 --> 00:05:39,081 Speaker 1: I've said, no more personal loans. Oh so you didn't 119 00:05:39,081 --> 00:05:41,121 Speaker 1: get the ticket, no more personals. 120 00:05:41,281 --> 00:05:44,121 Speaker 3: Well that's a great lesson because you're like, you did 121 00:05:44,121 --> 00:05:47,441 Speaker 3: say to a save half spand half. The part is 122 00:05:47,481 --> 00:05:50,001 Speaker 3: if she had a little bit of savings, then leant 123 00:05:50,081 --> 00:05:51,041 Speaker 3: on it exactly. 124 00:05:51,241 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: If you had some savings there, then you've got the 125 00:05:53,841 --> 00:05:57,441 Speaker 1: money there ready for those occasions like this. 126 00:05:57,801 --> 00:05:58,401 Speaker 2: Yeah. 127 00:05:58,561 --> 00:06:02,161 Speaker 3: Oh well, I'm sure the artists will come back, or 128 00:06:02,201 --> 00:06:04,361 Speaker 3: maybe she'd just try and get some more. She'll probably 129 00:06:04,361 --> 00:06:06,841 Speaker 3: get the tickets second hand off hopefully some of the 130 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,841 Speaker 3: other places that don't rip you off. 131 00:06:09,601 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: They're expensive too. Concert's a good. 132 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:12,601 Speaker 2: Personal loan, so you reckon that. 133 00:06:12,721 --> 00:06:16,321 Speaker 3: I mean, just knowing your daughters, knowing what their plan was. 134 00:06:16,401 --> 00:06:18,441 Speaker 3: I think we had dinner maybe end of last year 135 00:06:18,481 --> 00:06:20,561 Speaker 3: or the start of this year. We had a dinner 136 00:06:20,601 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 3: together with your girls and you know my girls, and 137 00:06:23,401 --> 00:06:26,321 Speaker 3: I was talking to your girls about like, oh, so you. 138 00:06:26,241 --> 00:06:28,041 Speaker 2: Know, Mum was telling me about getting a. 139 00:06:28,081 --> 00:06:31,281 Speaker 3: Job so that you know, you'll put in an X 140 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,401 Speaker 3: amount of money and then that way mom and dad 141 00:06:33,481 --> 00:06:33,841 Speaker 3: match it. 142 00:06:34,041 --> 00:06:36,401 Speaker 2: And like we've spoken openly on the podcast about that. 143 00:06:37,201 --> 00:06:38,121 Speaker 2: How they going with that? 144 00:06:38,241 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing, it's going to ask you for a personal 145 00:06:40,481 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 3: loan to match your half of the loan. 146 00:06:43,681 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: So far, Amelia has had a couple of paydays, I 147 00:06:47,561 --> 00:06:50,361 Speaker 1: think two or three paydays so far. Yeah, and it's 148 00:06:50,401 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: all spent all right. 149 00:06:52,041 --> 00:06:55,001 Speaker 2: Well, that car saving is going great guns. 150 00:06:54,761 --> 00:06:57,281 Speaker 1: Yeah, great for me, great for you might have to 151 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:58,361 Speaker 1: match nothing. 152 00:06:58,561 --> 00:07:00,841 Speaker 2: Until the day comes where they asked to borrow your car. 153 00:07:01,361 --> 00:07:02,601 Speaker 2: Borrow your car. 154 00:07:02,761 --> 00:07:04,881 Speaker 3: They are going to definitely ask to borrow your car 155 00:07:05,361 --> 00:07:07,721 Speaker 3: because it's a bit smaller than dads, so then it's 156 00:07:07,721 --> 00:07:10,321 Speaker 3: a little bit more attractive because when you're first learning 157 00:07:10,441 --> 00:07:12,001 Speaker 3: to drive, you don't want to be in a really 158 00:07:12,041 --> 00:07:14,801 Speaker 3: big car, you know, so yours is perf Like they're 159 00:07:14,801 --> 00:07:16,921 Speaker 3: going to be like, mum, I'm just going to woolies 160 00:07:17,081 --> 00:07:18,201 Speaker 3: in your car. 161 00:07:21,521 --> 00:07:23,761 Speaker 1: Literally. It was only the other day was the first 162 00:07:23,801 --> 00:07:27,401 Speaker 1: time I thought about them wanting to borrow my car, 163 00:07:27,761 --> 00:07:31,201 Speaker 1: because the whole time I felt like, you don't have 164 00:07:31,201 --> 00:07:33,081 Speaker 1: any money to buy a car yet, so you're not 165 00:07:33,081 --> 00:07:34,921 Speaker 1: going to have a car, so you're still going to 166 00:07:34,921 --> 00:07:37,521 Speaker 1: be getting public trans for And I got them a 167 00:07:37,561 --> 00:07:39,841 Speaker 1: go card the other day and I was like, there 168 00:07:39,841 --> 00:07:44,161 Speaker 1: you go, train, tap away, fast tap away, fifty cent rides. Yeah, 169 00:07:44,241 --> 00:07:44,961 Speaker 1: how good is that? 170 00:07:45,001 --> 00:07:46,961 Speaker 3: So good it is it's probably the only good thing 171 00:07:47,001 --> 00:07:48,521 Speaker 3: that's come out of it for a long time. 172 00:07:48,601 --> 00:07:49,761 Speaker 2: But fifty cents is great. 173 00:07:49,961 --> 00:07:51,161 Speaker 1: How long is that going to go? 174 00:07:51,521 --> 00:07:54,361 Speaker 2: It was only three months though, okay, But. 175 00:07:54,361 --> 00:07:57,241 Speaker 1: Then being able to say can I borrow your car. 176 00:07:57,441 --> 00:08:00,001 Speaker 1: And if it's a case where I'm just at home 177 00:08:00,001 --> 00:08:02,721 Speaker 1: and I'm not going anywhere, yeah, you've got no excuse. No, 178 00:08:02,801 --> 00:08:05,121 Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to say no. I need it 179 00:08:04,721 --> 00:08:12,001 Speaker 1: to it in the garage, my car, and then they're 180 00:08:12,001 --> 00:08:15,081 Speaker 1: going to get a taste of a car that's way 181 00:08:15,121 --> 00:08:17,801 Speaker 1: better than the first car they're going to get. Whit 182 00:08:17,881 --> 00:08:20,161 Speaker 1: I wait until I'm forty one for. 183 00:08:20,441 --> 00:08:25,441 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So the answer is just specifically no, good luck. 184 00:08:25,521 --> 00:08:29,121 Speaker 1: I've heard so many stories of people and they're like, 185 00:08:29,401 --> 00:08:33,041 Speaker 1: get the phone call, who, Sorry, I've crushed your car 186 00:08:33,081 --> 00:08:33,921 Speaker 1: into a fence. 187 00:08:34,281 --> 00:08:36,841 Speaker 3: Please make sure I'm there with you on that day. 188 00:08:39,361 --> 00:08:42,401 Speaker 3: I can't wait to film your reaction. Oh my god, 189 00:08:42,641 --> 00:08:46,321 Speaker 3: I'm laughing because I've got all of this ahead of me. Yeah, 190 00:08:46,401 --> 00:08:47,481 Speaker 3: all of it ahead of me. 191 00:08:47,641 --> 00:08:50,281 Speaker 2: And I know exactly what type of drivers my kids 192 00:08:50,281 --> 00:08:53,201 Speaker 2: are going to be. I know exactly what I'm been 193 00:08:53,241 --> 00:08:54,401 Speaker 2: for mine. 194 00:08:54,401 --> 00:08:57,161 Speaker 1: I've already talked about the music system they want to have, 195 00:08:57,201 --> 00:08:59,161 Speaker 1: and like how loud are they going to have? What 196 00:08:59,241 --> 00:09:01,481 Speaker 1: playlist they're going to have playing? And I'm like, mate, 197 00:09:01,561 --> 00:09:02,921 Speaker 1: you need to concentrate. 198 00:09:02,481 --> 00:09:03,841 Speaker 2: On the road, Katie. 199 00:09:03,881 --> 00:09:06,001 Speaker 3: But I was thinking about it with this stuff is 200 00:09:06,121 --> 00:09:08,681 Speaker 3: when we were doing it. That was one of the 201 00:09:08,721 --> 00:09:12,561 Speaker 3: things that was on my pre you know, requisite list 202 00:09:12,641 --> 00:09:13,481 Speaker 3: of my first car. 203 00:09:13,641 --> 00:09:15,801 Speaker 2: Yes, the car cost four. 204 00:09:15,601 --> 00:09:20,241 Speaker 3: Thousand dollars, but it did have a twenty six Stucker 205 00:09:20,401 --> 00:09:24,361 Speaker 3: CD thing and it with a subwifer. Obviously every dollar 206 00:09:24,401 --> 00:09:26,681 Speaker 3: out of the four thousand dollars. 207 00:09:26,361 --> 00:09:28,801 Speaker 2: Was for the radio system. 208 00:09:29,121 --> 00:09:31,721 Speaker 3: And I mean, these kids just won't ever learn because 209 00:09:31,761 --> 00:09:33,881 Speaker 3: they don't know how hard we had it where we 210 00:09:33,921 --> 00:09:37,281 Speaker 3: had to like stuck in twenty six CDs so that 211 00:09:37,361 --> 00:09:40,841 Speaker 3: you could be able to shuffle songs between your CDs, 212 00:09:41,001 --> 00:09:43,241 Speaker 3: and you know, like all you'd be driving and your 213 00:09:43,321 --> 00:09:45,681 Speaker 3: knees are up around the steering wheel and trying to 214 00:09:45,681 --> 00:09:47,881 Speaker 3: flip through your CD case to find the next CD. 215 00:09:48,001 --> 00:09:49,641 Speaker 2: Maybe give it a bit of a clean before you 216 00:09:49,761 --> 00:09:52,361 Speaker 2: pop it in the machine. They just don't get. 217 00:09:52,201 --> 00:09:55,721 Speaker 1: It skip when you go over a bump. My first car, 218 00:09:56,241 --> 00:09:59,041 Speaker 1: it was one thousand dollars. It's five hundred pounds in England. 219 00:09:59,161 --> 00:10:03,881 Speaker 1: It was a Nisam Micra wind up windows, brown seat 220 00:10:03,921 --> 00:10:07,321 Speaker 1: belt am Radar. I had a whole thing put in 221 00:10:07,361 --> 00:10:11,961 Speaker 1: as well, speakers in the back. But yeah, yeah, then 222 00:10:12,001 --> 00:10:14,281 Speaker 1: you got to put your CDs in or your cassettes 223 00:10:14,641 --> 00:10:15,761 Speaker 1: had a cassette player. 224 00:10:16,041 --> 00:10:18,241 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there was no. No, I didn't. 225 00:10:18,081 --> 00:10:22,201 Speaker 1: Pressing a button and saying, hey, Siri, play my Spotify playlist. 226 00:10:22,321 --> 00:10:22,521 Speaker 2: Yeah. 227 00:10:22,521 --> 00:10:26,001 Speaker 3: But here we are worrying about them having to like 228 00:10:26,201 --> 00:10:29,841 Speaker 3: just concentrate on the road we're doing. We're fucking concentrating 229 00:10:29,881 --> 00:10:32,281 Speaker 3: on seventy five things, not just one. 230 00:10:32,921 --> 00:10:33,961 Speaker 2: Don't worry about the phone. 231 00:10:34,041 --> 00:10:36,761 Speaker 3: We were doing a lot more than that, and changing 232 00:10:36,841 --> 00:10:37,641 Speaker 3: gears manually. 233 00:10:39,401 --> 00:10:41,521 Speaker 1: I bought it second hand off the guy next door 234 00:10:41,521 --> 00:10:42,441 Speaker 1: who was going blind. 235 00:10:44,241 --> 00:10:45,401 Speaker 2: It only had a few dents.