WEBVTT - Immigration detention’s drug problem

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<v Speaker 1>From the Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm christinamiot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Monday, December twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>In.

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<v Speaker 1>Battled Victorian Liberal Party leader John Pisuto has backflipped on

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<v Speaker 1>his decision to block ousted MP More Redeeming from rejoining

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<v Speaker 1>the party room. He's called a new vote for January

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<v Speaker 1>fifteenth in a desperate attempt to save his leadership as

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<v Speaker 1>some of his closest allies urge him to step down.

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<v Speaker 1>A Melbourne lawyer lied to her clients and forged their signatures,

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<v Speaker 1>and she misused funds from a trust. Now Elisa Berry

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<v Speaker 1>has been struck off and called a stain on the

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<v Speaker 1>legal profession in a withering takedown by a Victorian Supreme

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<v Speaker 1>Court judge. That exclusive story is live right now at

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<v Speaker 1>the Australian dot com dot AU. Illicit drugs are roone

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<v Speaker 1>rampant in Australia's immigration detention centers, and law enforcement agencies

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<v Speaker 1>admit they're struggling to keep on top of the problem

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<v Speaker 1>as hundreds of detainees await deportation. That's today's story. In September,

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<v Speaker 1>a woman arrived at Sydney's Villawood Detention Center with her

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<v Speaker 1>two children to visit her husband. Located in Sydney's Western Suburbs,

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<v Speaker 1>Villawood is the biggest immigration detention center in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>It holds almost four hundred people, many of whom have

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<v Speaker 1>been waiting for months or even years to be deported.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a prison, but some residents do have criminal convictions,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's subject to tight security. The woman was searched

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<v Speaker 1>by New South Wales police officers stationed at the detention center.

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<v Speaker 1>They found two hundred and fifty grams of methemphetamine, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as three cigarette lighters in her belongings. Her kids,

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<v Speaker 1>who are aged ten and four, weren't found to be

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<v Speaker 1>carrying any contraband substances. Their mother was charged with supplying

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<v Speaker 1>illegal drugs and within days her husband was also arrested

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<v Speaker 1>inside Villawood, where police seized two mobile phones. He later

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<v Speaker 1>admitted he'd instructed his wife to bring the meth amphetamine

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<v Speaker 1>to the center for him, and according to new reporting

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<v Speaker 1>by The Australian, this isn't a one off.

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<v Speaker 3>The Australian has confirmed that heroin, meth amphetamine and fentanyla

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<v Speaker 3>are flooding into Australia's immigration detention centers.

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<v Speaker 1>Damon Johnston is The Australian's Victorian editor.

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<v Speaker 3>These are hard drugs, these aren't cigarettes, and there is

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<v Speaker 3>a major drug problem within the immigration detention centers around

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<v Speaker 3>this country. These cases where highlighting happened in Sydney, in

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<v Speaker 3>Wa and in Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 4>There will be many more, according to my sources, that

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<v Speaker 4>have happened in the last three months as well.

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<v Speaker 1>There are six complexes like Villawood Detention Center dotted around

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<v Speaker 1>the country, including in Melbourne and Perth. Detainees in those

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<v Speaker 1>centers tend to have more freedoms than inmates held in prisons.

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<v Speaker 1>That means they're allowed to own mobile phones and receive

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<v Speaker 1>regular visitors, and the private security firms and police running

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<v Speaker 1>the detention centers say that's part of the problem.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not considered jails.

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<v Speaker 3>However, these freedoms obviously increase the chances for the criminals

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<v Speaker 3>within the detainee system to source drugs and get them

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<v Speaker 3>smuggled in. Australian Borderforce have said that drugs are a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>They haven't tried to hide from this. They say the

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<v Speaker 3>high number of criminals within the detention centers is essentially

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<v Speaker 3>encouraging the amount of drugs that are being smuggled into

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<v Speaker 3>the centers.

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<v Speaker 1>Are detainees using the drugs themselves or distributing them or both?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it would be fair to say both, some

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<v Speaker 3>of them where publishing shows that the drugs were used

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<v Speaker 3>by the people that pick them up.

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<v Speaker 4>But anywhere where drugs are a problem, users can.

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<v Speaker 3>Become dealers as well or distributors, so I would be

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<v Speaker 3>surprised if that was not the case in these detention centers.

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<v Speaker 1>Officials from the Australian Border Force say the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>many detainees have been refused visas or had their visas

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<v Speaker 1>canceled on character grounds has fostered a prison like culture

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<v Speaker 1>in detention centers and that's putting the safety of staff

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<v Speaker 1>and other detainees at risk.

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<v Speaker 3>Australian Border Force says that of the thousand odd people

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<v Speaker 3>in detention, roughly seven hundred to seven hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 3>have criminal convictions. So this reflects the decision by various

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<v Speaker 3>governments of both persuasions to essentially kick people out of

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<v Speaker 3>Australia if they are residents or they're here on other

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<v Speaker 3>non permanent visas, if they breach the law and they're

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<v Speaker 3>deemed unsuitable, so necessarily they get parked in these detention

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<v Speaker 3>centers and then they get ejected. That's how it's meant

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<v Speaker 3>to work. But some of them, of course, have been

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<v Speaker 3>there for many years and they exercise their legal rights

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<v Speaker 3>to frustrate and delay the process of extradition.

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<v Speaker 1>Last month, the search and seizure powers of border security

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<v Speaker 1>staff working in immigration detention centers were expanded by the

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<v Speaker 1>Australian Parliament. Within days of the legislation being passed, kitchen

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<v Speaker 1>staff at the Melbourne Immigration Detention Center found a package

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<v Speaker 1>containing heroin and methamphetamine in the facility's dining room. But

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<v Speaker 1>the new laws are limited in a situation like this.

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<v Speaker 1>They allow guards to confiscate weapons and items that could

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<v Speaker 1>be used to facilitate an escape, but they don't enable

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<v Speaker 1>the facilities managers to implement blanket bands on technology like

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<v Speaker 1>mobile phones.

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<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of Australians would be interested to

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<v Speaker 3>know that detainees in detention centers can have mobile phones

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<v Speaker 3>and presumably access to the internet. Many of them have

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<v Speaker 3>serious criminal convictions and are being deported because they've been

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<v Speaker 3>deemed to be unfit to live in Australia. So I

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<v Speaker 3>think ultimately the government will have to tighten the regulations

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<v Speaker 3>around mobile phones and probably ban them. The obvious answer

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<v Speaker 3>to that would be that, as in standard state run prisons,

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<v Speaker 3>prison supplied landlines are offered and the detainees would then

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<v Speaker 3>use those to communicate with lawyers and loved ones or visitors.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't think there's any suggestion that they would

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<v Speaker 3>be completely cut off from the outside world. But it

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<v Speaker 3>is curious that these people are in detention because they're

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<v Speaker 3>deemed to be unfit to live in Australia, yet they

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<v Speaker 3>are allowed access to mobile phones, and not surprisingly, some

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<v Speaker 3>of them then use those phones to set up drug deals.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up why Labour's immigration headache just won't go away.

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<v Speaker 1>Immigration is a source subject for Labor. The party has

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<v Speaker 1>typically taken a more humanitarian approach to unauthorized maritime arrivals,

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<v Speaker 1>in particular, often with disastrous results.

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<v Speaker 2>The outstretched hand of a woman grasping for life as

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<v Speaker 2>frantic rescuers try to drag survivors from the boiling.

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<v Speaker 1>Sea jackets standardy.

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<v Speaker 2>This was the refugee boat, just seconds before it was

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<v Speaker 2>swamped by huge waves.

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<v Speaker 1>By contrast, the Coalition talks tough on refugee flows, a

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<v Speaker 1>political tactic that's been incredibly effective at winning elections.

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<v Speaker 2>The most compassionate thing you can do is stop the boats, and.

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<v Speaker 1>As another federal election approaches, the Labor Party's immigration headache

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<v Speaker 1>isn't going away. Earlier this year, it was revealed hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of detainees with prior convictions for serious criminal offenses like

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<v Speaker 1>murder and rape were released from immigration detention after the

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<v Speaker 1>High Court ruled they were being unconstitutionally held. In those cases,

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<v Speaker 1>detainees couldn't or wouldn't return to their home countries, but

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<v Speaker 1>the law said they couldn't be kept in detention either.

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<v Speaker 1>A small minority of those detainees reoffended after being released

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<v Speaker 1>into communities around the country and saw the government scrambling

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<v Speaker 1>to contain the fallout and regain public trusts.

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<v Speaker 5>Anthony Abnezi has unveiled Labour's new front bench, jumping Claire

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<v Speaker 5>O'Neal and Andrew Giles from the Home Affairs, Cybersecurity and

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<v Speaker 5>Immigration portfolios and replacing them with Tony Burke.

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Burke has declined to comment on the latest revelations

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<v Speaker 1>that drugs are rampant in Australia's immigration detention system, but

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<v Speaker 1>the opposition, sensing a new opportunity to hammer Labour on

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<v Speaker 1>immigration says it's yet more evidence the government can't be

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<v Speaker 1>trusted to run the country.

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<v Speaker 3>Daintee and the shadow Immigration Minister, has said that Australians

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<v Speaker 3>will be furious to learn that while Labor is allowing

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<v Speaker 3>detainees out of detention, it's allowing drugs into detention.

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<v Speaker 4>And what he's getting at there is.

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<v Speaker 3>That after the High Court ruling last year, a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of hundred detainees were released and they have gone on

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<v Speaker 3>to reoffend. And we know that cost Andrew Giles, the

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<v Speaker 3>then minister, his job and the government's mishandling of that

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<v Speaker 3>left the government in crisis. So mister Tan is trying

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<v Speaker 3>to link the crisis around drugs within the detention centers

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<v Speaker 3>to the broader mishandling of immigration by the Albanese government.

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<v Speaker 1>Just lastly, Damon, how does this broad immigration debarcle play

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<v Speaker 1>for Labor in the run up to next year's federal election.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh look, I think it's generally been an area of

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<v Speaker 3>weakness for labor. We know what happened after Kevin Rudd

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<v Speaker 3>was elected in two thousand and seven. The votes came,

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<v Speaker 3>thousands and thousands of people were in detention, hundreds died,

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<v Speaker 3>so Labour's track record on immigration is not strong and

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<v Speaker 3>this will play into simmering concerns in the community that

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<v Speaker 3>they haven't learned their lesson.

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<v Speaker 1>Damon Johnston is The Australian's Victorian editor. You can read

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