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Speaker 1: Welcome to a little bonus episode. As we're recording this,

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Speaker 1: there goes Dads. Watch as we're recording this, news has

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Speaker 1: just come through. Dylan Brown has told the years he'll

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Speaker 1: be heading to the Knights ten year deal one point

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Speaker 1: three million dollars a year, the richest deal in NRL history, Matthew, which,

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Speaker 1: I which is a big call. There's been a lot

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Speaker 1: of big deals lately, salary cap going up, and I

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Speaker 1: imagine there'll be ratchet clauses in there with the next

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Speaker 1: CBA deal, so I could go up in the next

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Speaker 1: four years as well. Are you surprised, first question, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Not surprised he took the deal. The moment Coops that

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Speaker 2: they offered the richest deal in regul league history. I

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Speaker 2: knew he was on his way there. He's always going

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Speaker 2: to be like, honestly, ten years, thirty million dollars with

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Speaker 2: a ratchet clauses. I don't know how much they go up.

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Speaker 2: I believe that if it goes up, you know, thirty

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Speaker 2: or forty percent, then he doesn't go that far. But

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Speaker 2: let's talk what we know now. Thirty million dollars for

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Speaker 2: ten years. As soon as that offer was on the table,

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Speaker 2: I'd have been shocked that he didn't If he didn't

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Speaker 2: take it, you know what.

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Speaker 1: I was surprised by, Why play round one without signing that.

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Speaker 1: What if you've got out there and it did a

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Speaker 1: long term injury? The Knights pull that off. It was

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Speaker 1: a risk, as it was storm go there and put

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Speaker 1: forty on him in the first half. When I seen

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Speaker 1: that Scorelin, I was thinking, are the power are the

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Speaker 1: power brokers that the Knight's thinking? Are we going to

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Speaker 1: pull this contract before he signs it?

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Speaker 2: Because well, that's I'll pose this year, which could have happened.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, he could have gone out there in

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Speaker 2: round one and been in a team that got flogged

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Speaker 2: and was really quiet and didn't do anything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they didn't. That's what happened.

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Speaker 2: And then you're sitting like when I after watching I

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Speaker 2: was watching the game last night. I'm not being a

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Speaker 2: smart ass here, but I was when I watched that

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Speaker 2: game and I sat back. I came back and watched

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Speaker 2: it again last night just to get a feel of

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Speaker 2: the young paramount of players, just have to look get

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Speaker 2: a field of how shell shot they were. I watched

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Speaker 2: it again. I'll be honest, in my mind, I thought

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Speaker 2: it myself. I wonder if the Nights I think about

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Speaker 2: pulling the deal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well apparently they checked with them. Apparently they the

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Speaker 1: management reached out and said, is this you know what,

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Speaker 1: does this change the offer? And they obviously went not,

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Speaker 1: So we went.

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Speaker 2: Strange thing for management to do isn't dream. So it's

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Speaker 2: almost saying, you know, guys, it's almost saying, you know,

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Speaker 2: like ten years, thirty million dollars like dil and play

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Speaker 2: that is that still kosher?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we'll there was a no brainer for

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Speaker 1: him to take it after you know this, and to

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Speaker 1: go another six weeks without Mitch Moses. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if that ill side's going to know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll talk about that later. Yeah, that later. About

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Speaker 2: what it means for the receipt.

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Speaker 1: What about from a Knight's perspective, what kind of player

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Speaker 1: do they want him to be? What are they expecting

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Speaker 1: they're paying He's now the highest paid play in rugby

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Speaker 1: league next year? What are they expecting from Dylan.

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Speaker 2: When you pay, when you play play play one point

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Speaker 2: three million dollars a year. You want that player to

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Speaker 2: be to be Nathan Cleary. You need that player to

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Speaker 2: control the tempo of the game, to control a contest,

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Speaker 2: to be able to organize your team. Crucially, they you,

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Speaker 2: they want you to be the player in the biggest moments,

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Speaker 2: in the biggest games that you're going to deliver, that

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Speaker 2: you're going to You're going to be the bloke to

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Speaker 2: get them home in really tight games, in big games.

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Speaker 2: H Dylan's not that player at the moment. Dylan may

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Speaker 2: never be that player. Dylan's a player who has can

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Speaker 2: have great impact on a contest, but firstly he needs

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Speaker 2: someone to control that contest and then he can then

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Speaker 2: he can step up and make his mark. But he

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Speaker 2: is not He's not an organizing half back. What Newcastle

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Speaker 2: next step for Newcastle is to buy a seven, a

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Speaker 2: That's what I thought the Knights were after, because that's

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Speaker 2: the sort of player that the Knights need now. At

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Speaker 2: this point, I'll repeat that at this point Dylan is

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Speaker 2: not that type of player.

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Speaker 1: But he may never be that type of player. And

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Speaker 1: those type of halfbacks, they're all locked long term, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. Jerome Hughes comes off at the

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Speaker 1: end of twenty twenty six. Nathan Cleary, he's he doesn't

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Speaker 1: look like he's going anywhere soon. Cherry Evans is probably

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Speaker 1: going to retire after twenty twenty five twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: What I think about Dylan is what I hope doesn't

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Speaker 1: happen with Dylan is he's right now, he's a top

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Speaker 1: five to five eight in the game, right He's not

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Speaker 1: the best five ak top five.

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Speaker 2: Let's go through a little bit better than Jeron Leue. No,

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Speaker 2: I don't think, really think Cameron Munster.

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Speaker 1: My top five right now. Yeah, it is Munster. I

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Speaker 1: think Diardon, I think Leui, and I think I knows

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Speaker 1: he's had a quiet year last year. I think Ezra

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Speaker 1: Maam gets the bump on him as well. I think

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Speaker 1: he comes in at five. I think he edges out Brooks.

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Speaker 2: He right, Okay, you've got Ben Hunter's moved to six

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Speaker 2: at the moment, not usually six. Okay, get that. Let'stening

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Speaker 2: some of the other.

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Speaker 1: I think the only other one that could potentially pip

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Speaker 1: him is Burton. But I still think I think Brown

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Speaker 1: probably just gets it over him.

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Speaker 2: Okay, putting in a body. I'm just ripping through some

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Speaker 1: But yeah, but you know he's a top five to

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Speaker 1: five looking.

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Speaker 2: Am I happy that the Knights for sign Dylan Brown.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy that they've signed Dylan Brown. Dylan Brown is

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Speaker 2: a good signing. Yes, Paying thirteen million dollars for ten

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Speaker 2: years for Dylan Brown isn't good business, particularly when they

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Speaker 2: paid dramatic overs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And what's what you just said is what

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Speaker 1: they need is that halfback. They need someone who's going

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Speaker 1: to take control of this team, not just on the field,

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Speaker 1: but off the field in preseason, come together with a

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Speaker 1: whole squad and get a system that is going to

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Speaker 1: make them to a premiership team. Dylan Brown knows what

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Speaker 1: his strengths are. Dylan knows he's a good defender, he's fit,

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Speaker 1: and he's an excellent ball runner. Dylan is never expressed

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Speaker 1: to be you know, I'm a lead I go out

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Speaker 1: there and I organize all this shape. He knows what

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Speaker 1: his strengths are. He's played like that the last five years.

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Speaker 1: For him to get that sort of money unless that's

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Speaker 1: what they think they want, But I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: what they need to.

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Speaker 2: Make something perfect clear, this is criticism of Dylan Brown

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Speaker 2: any way, shape or form. We are stating facts. Dylan

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Speaker 2: Brown isn't a controlling, organizing player. Dylan Brown is a

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Speaker 2: tremendous runner of the football. He's a player in a

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Speaker 2: lot of ways, a player who's still viewed with great potential.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think he'll ever be that controlling number

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Speaker 2: seven type player he is. He's just not that type

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Speaker 2: of player. It's not And the thinking about it is

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Speaker 2: now is right. I still look at the Knights and say,

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Speaker 2: what do the Knights need? The Knights still need a

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Speaker 2: really strong seven. At the moment we've got a lot

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Speaker 2: of sevens there, but thereafter a really high quality seven

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Speaker 2: like that, that sort of that guy that can that

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Speaker 2: can control and organize, can take the can take the

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Speaker 2: team on their shoulders. Dylan one point three million, Kaitlin,

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Speaker 2: what one point five to one point six we're going

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Speaker 2: to get it. I mean the money you're going to spend,

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Speaker 2: you're not going to have the money for that type

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're now the two highest paid Next year, they'll

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Speaker 1: be the two highest paid players in the NRP is

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Speaker 1: right now, and him and Dylan will be next year

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Speaker 1: to go the.

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Speaker 2: The ten year deal. Do you like that aspect? No,

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't like ten years. I don't think

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Speaker 2: ten years is good. I don't think ten years is

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Speaker 2: good for the party. There's so much water is going

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Speaker 2: to pass under the bridge. I think the only ten

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Speaker 2: year deal that's really turned out great was Dali. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but yet, yes, Twlo, I would say each way you

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Speaker 2: see that, that Tellmlalo his knee and injuries have got

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Speaker 2: the better at the back end. But yeah, tell those

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Speaker 2: at the start.

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Speaker 1: He definitely he was a million cheap for him, and actually.

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Speaker 2: At the start you're starting to say it was it

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Speaker 2: was a bad deal for him. Yeah, that one sort

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Speaker 2: of equated out. Dally's worked. But Dally and we're talking

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Speaker 2: about a guy who is a controlling, pure number seven.

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Speaker 2: He does all the kicking like a quarterback type. That's

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Speaker 2: what it is. But I mean ten years now, I

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Speaker 2: don't like ten year deals, and particularly in this case

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Speaker 2: because because player, because they've paid overs on it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what about Dylan Brown as a player individually? Taking

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Speaker 1: this contract aside, what do you like him as a player?

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Speaker 1: Do you think he's.

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Speaker 2: Since Kemmedy great? I do like him as a player,

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Speaker 2: but I still I still view him as a player

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Speaker 2: of potential. Like for me, he hasn't fulfilled a lot

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Speaker 2: of the potential he has got in a lot of

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Speaker 2: it because it's top quality player. And by me saying

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Speaker 2: he hasn't fulfilled all the potentially he's got, then people

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Speaker 2: would say, well, it's a good sign for Newcastle, but

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Speaker 2: there's no guarantee that he is going to flill that potential.

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Speaker 2: Those footballers don't. I do like aspects of his I

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Speaker 2: like it when he runs the football. I really like

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Speaker 2: that when he can isolated players. I think sometimes I

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Speaker 2: think sometimes he worries too much about aesthetics. You know,

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Speaker 2: no look passes and that I don't like that side

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Speaker 2: of his game. At the end of the day, it's

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Speaker 2: the which I say a bit. Just win, baby, don't

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Speaker 2: worry about how looks. Just get out of there.

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Speaker 1: I've played a lot of footage against Dell. I played

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Speaker 1: my debut against Dell. I played a lot when we

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Speaker 1: played power and he's a quality player, hard to handle,

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Speaker 1: such a gun player, but like you said, he's not

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Speaker 1: when we've come against him, doing video on him, you

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Speaker 1: don't have to worry about the main threat with Dylan's

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Speaker 1: is running you know, you don't know's it's not. Moses

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Speaker 1: has done all the kicking for power for a long time.

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Speaker 1: His main threat is the running and support play that

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Speaker 1: he's got so to play. To pay someone that high

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Speaker 1: money on for what his strengths are, yeh aga, he said,

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Speaker 1: it's coob.

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Speaker 2: Come back to the point, do A like Dylan as

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Speaker 2: a player? I like to Dilan as a player. Do

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Speaker 2: a li Dylan as an organizing, controlling half pack. I

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Speaker 2: don't like Dylan as a controlling, organizing halfback because he's

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Speaker 2: not that.

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Speaker 1: And you hope they're not trying to turn him into that. Well,

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Speaker 1: because because if you try to turn somebody whose strengths

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Speaker 1: are that into a halfback, it takes away from what

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Speaker 1: got him into first grade in the first place.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's have a look at that. Like the difference

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Speaker 2: between six and seven is significant, right, So let's have

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Speaker 1: Get money. Wouldn't do it.

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Speaker 2: He would get anxiety, mate, And look what he's achieved

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Speaker 1: The best thing and we talk about the storm often,

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Speaker 1: just to you try to strengthen your weaknesses, but you

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Speaker 2: So you coops and people will listen to this, and

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Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you, I think when Knights went

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you've seen it a lot years gone by. Right,

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Speaker 2: Free agent's bulldog, bullowd Richie want to chase his heart.

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Speaker 2: Well, they're going to have to shed some people, now,

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Speaker 2: The problem, the big one is like, I look at

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Speaker 1: Well, what if he comes out this year and has

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Speaker 2: They might actually people might answer that by saying and

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Speaker 2: He could play thirteen. But again, do you give thirteen

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Speaker 2: You know it's interesting. You don't have to defend him

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Speaker 1: Back to the Knight's rosters, well, I think what you're

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Speaker 2: Well, they tell me the nice salary caps out of

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Speaker 1: The only thing I do like from the decision is

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Speaker 2: Look, let's be honest, everyone wants to win a camp.

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Speaker 2: They've gone in with serious intent.

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Speaker 1: They've gone in hard, like they've to the point where

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Speaker 2: And Peter Sullimon's a fantastic scout. He scouted some of

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Speaker 2: for years and years and tried to land him at

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Speaker 2: It started to become they started to become a stink

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Speaker 2: we're going to go after Dylan Brown. But if everyone,

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Speaker 2: if we're going to take one step towards Dylan, we've

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Speaker 1: Some yeah, yeah, definitely what about for Paramatta? Now, so

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Speaker 2: They're going to go. They're going to go hard at

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Speaker 2: His expansion teams are about to come in.

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Speaker 1: So is he off next year? Is he off for

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Speaker 2: far as playmakers, I.

433
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Speaker 1: Reckon a couple others. I think two that come off. No,

434
00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,680
Speaker 1: potentially next year. I know Jerome Hughes's twenty twenty six,

435
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 1: who'd be a big gap for him? He could play

436
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,320
Speaker 1: five eight along so much Moses, but Tyron Wishard as

437
00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,440
Speaker 1: well comes off. Who's Tyrone still had a lot of

438
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,880
Speaker 1: footed in him. He can play basically anywhere. But he's

439
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 1: shown last year when hughsy end months we're out for

440
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,280
Speaker 1: a long period of time, he can play at a

441
00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,600
Speaker 1: high level in the halves. I think he'd be a

442
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,240
Speaker 1: good one. And if Daly chair Evans wants to go around.

443
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,240
Speaker 2: For one more year, I mean it'd be crazy if

444
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:24,639
Speaker 2: he doesn't.

445
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean why wouldn't you, Why wouldn't he

446
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't they throw a lot of money out of

447
00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 1: now that it's freed up.

448
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 2: You know, I can't help but think. I wonder what

449
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,160
Speaker 2: it's a family member of ours. I wonder what he's

450
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,440
Speaker 2: thinking moment.

451
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 1: Andrew Johnson. Yeah, And if we had a bit of

452
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,159
Speaker 1: relationship with him, we're getting there.

453
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 2: Almost feel like I almost feel like I almost feel

454
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 2: like I want to ring him, get the other podcast.

455
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 1: Tell us what you think, just pick his brain.

456
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 2: You know. Look, he's vana Dylan Brown. Yeah, he's work

457
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 2: with doing a little bit. Yeah, but if dyl I

458
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 2: mean you can ask you can say this about a

459
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,879
Speaker 2: lot of players in different clubs over the years and

460
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 2: everything years, But you go one point three for ten

461
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,880
Speaker 2: years for dyl Dylan, what would you pay Joey.

462
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, he that's if you asked him, he

463
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 1: would think that he'd say, well, what am I worth?

464
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 1: But this is the this is the thing. I know

465
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,199
Speaker 1: if you feelthy if they had a if they had

466
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 1: a half, if Jack Koga, if he has an outstanding

467
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,639
Speaker 1: year this year, and you go, Coggs is our seven

468
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 1: for the next four years, then it sort of makes

469
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 1: the buy justifiably would go, well, maybe they don't need

470
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 1: a seven, they need that X factor six like a

471
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 1: Dylan Brown to come. But you know, I know if

472
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 1: you'd ask Joey, he would be saying the only people

473
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 1: I would pay that sort of money for is Nathan

474
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 1: Cleary and like Cherry Evans, like they'd probably be He's

475
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,159
Speaker 1: only two right now, who would pay that sort of

476
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 1: money for?

477
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say the money you pay. Monster's pushing up

478
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 2: that money because because muster All, though Monster is an

479
00:21:54,680 --> 00:22:00,439
Speaker 2: organizing halfback, Monster is proven that that's really big moments

480
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 2: in the biggest games. He's going to stand up and

481
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 2: he's going to win you the game, like he's done

482
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 2: at every level. I mean, State of Origin is the

483
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 2: biggest test, and he's been games on the line. I

484
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 2: mean his debut match. She's just gone out there and

485
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 2: completely dominated. You know. For him, he's that exception where

486
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 2: you go, he's not a seven, but he deserves that money.

487
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 1: Well, you look, everyone in that storm Spine could demand

488
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 1: over a million dollars at any other and arol club.

489
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 1: But Money's I think Money is the only one that's

490
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,919
Speaker 1: over or on a million dollars. The other three are

491
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 1: underneath it. Yeah, because they have to Yeah, they you know,

492
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 1: they have to fit under the salary CAA.

493
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's interesting. Now I'll sit up there with

494
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 2: mum when all this happened, and yeah, your mum's you know,

495
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 2: she could she'd be very happy if rugby league didn't exist.

496
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 2: Not a rugby league person. She actually says to us sometimes,

497
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm so sick of this game. But even

498
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 2: she I said, what about rugby league? It is soap

499
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 2: opera for men, She goes, I was just thinking, I

500
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 2: love it.

501
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 1: It's so dramatic. It is what we spoke about Paris

502
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 1: around one game. What did you think of the game?

503
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Speaker 2: Just before I sit on the show last night, I

504
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 2: didn't want to sound condescening. But I really felt for

505
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 2: the young rookies because, yeah, they'd never been exposed to that.

506
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 2: They went, you know, no amount of sitting on the

507
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,360
Speaker 2: couch watching Friday night football, watching months to play, watching Hughesy,

508
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 2: Harry Paps would ever get you used to going out

509
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 2: there and actually out in the field. And what hit them?

510
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 2: Like they just came out round one Melbourne. They were fresh.

511
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 2: It was a beautiful day dry football right up there. Ally,

512
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 2: they're in the mood to attack and.

513
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 1: They haven't lost a game around one or twenty years.

514
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 2: And Coops, I just looked at the young paramount of

515
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,239
Speaker 2: players and they just they came out. They hit them

516
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 2: with the barrages of spood skill and defensive physicality. They

517
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 2: were gone like Rosy. Rosy could sit there at Coops

518
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,360
Speaker 2: and he could just he could sit all the Put

519
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 2: it this way, he shouldn't waste his time watching the

520
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 2: video because what he's going to see in the video? Mate,

521
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 2: what did that blake turn in? That's not like to

522
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 2: do the mate. Those shell shock Yeah, that's what happens

523
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 2: when your eyes are on the back of your head

524
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 2: and you just you've totally lost composure. They were like

525
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: that there was no communication between them. They're like thirteen

526
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: islands just moving around shell shock.

527
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 1: Well, we've got to Croak said on the podcast earlier

528
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: in the week. He said, everybody thinks they're going to

529
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: win the camp just before round one, and then you

530
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: go out there with this massive plan for the season,

531
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,959
Speaker 1: and as soon as she hits the wall and bullets

532
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: start flying, you just don't know what's going on. You

533
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: don't know what time the identity your team is until

534
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 1: the bullet start flying.

535
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 2: Well, it's the old Mike Tyson quote, you know, in

536
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 2: the fact that you know everyone's got a plan to

537
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 2: get a hit in the face.

538
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. Literally, Well I thought when I was a Manly,

539
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: I thought we're going to win the comp That didn't

540
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: work out. It didn't even make the eight.

541
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 2: I didn't think it was going to win the comps

542
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 2: perfect seven.

543
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: I didn't, yeah perfect. Some of the other games in

544
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: round one, Manly mainly had a big winner of the Cowboys.

545
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 2: They were good, tremendous. Do you think just Herbo is

546
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 2: goodanding beat them ever across the park, beat him on

547
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 2: the edges, beat them up the short sides when he's

548
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 2: first receiver, drilling that medal man I haven't seen many

549
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: bigger threats.

550
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: Like it now. He seems like he's back to and

551
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: we sort of touched on it with his Aussie campaign

552
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: last year playing out of the Center's he was back

553
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: to that twenty twenty one Delli in Form and he

554
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: just has hit the ground running this year as well.

555
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 1: The same thing is actually it just looks robust and

556
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: just fit.

557
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 2: It's a big week from now. They's got Cooper lid

558
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 2: on it.

559
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: Coops Yeah, yeah, you know.

560
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 2: Like Manly's hype builds very quickly and a lot of

561
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 2: excitement around like Seebs. And I said this on myself

562
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 2: and Cooper with a Krong Variety on our show. I

563
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 2: just said, it's really important that Sebs is. ZEBs is

564
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 2: too generous with his information. Sometimes I lookt there at

565
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 2: Sebs and he'll actually explain we're doing this, we're training

566
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 2: that way, and I just just win, baby, don't tell anything.

567
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: Coop it to yourself. And he's going to be important

568
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 2: for Subs. He've got a really good start of the year.

569
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 2: It's important for him and the players to just keep

570
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 2: a bottle on it. Fly at the old des under

571
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 2: the radar a little bit.

572
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: Correct attempt to a little For people who watched the game,

573
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: there was a there was a moment where Dally Chevans

574
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 1: made a line break in the second half and he

575
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: went to chip and chase over Scotty Drinkwater with an

576
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: open ethan Bullymore on his left. I was I had

577
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: a beer with the boys on Sunday at Corey Wodell's

578
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: house swarming party. Bullard never scored a double in his

579
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: life as well. He was literally he's seen like flashes

580
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,719
Speaker 1: of green. He saw every he saw a million dollar contract.

581
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: Chesa said, I had a dream the night before and

582
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: all week he has. He does a lot of visualization.

583
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: He visualizes what he thinks is going to happen in

584
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: the game, and then when he finds himself in that

585
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 1: scenario in the game, he's already got the decision made

586
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: up in his mount.

587
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

588
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: I think he's been doing it for a while. And

589
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: he said, during the week, I was visualizing making a

590
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: line break and Scotty Drinkwater going like rushing me, and

591
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: I chipped Chase over the top of him, and I

592
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: regather and score under the post. So he said, when

593
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: I got in there, when I got into space, my

594
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: first instinct was Chip and chase drink. He didn't even drink.

595
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 1: He just saw it coming and just bounce in his hands.

596
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 2: Had big Coin Bullymore, Filthy Bitcoin Bullymore.

597
00:26:59,320 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: Mate loves it.

598
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 2: I like him. God is an unusual man. Me and

599
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 2: Fletch was sitting at it might have been the it was.

600
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 2: It was Arthur Burton's old pub in Fortitude Valley there

601
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,719
Speaker 2: and we're just sitting there. We're watching watching the football,

602
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 2: having a beer. And you know, sometimes it's like you

603
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: feel someone staring at you, or you feel a presence near.

604
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 2: I just felt this strange presence and I turned around.

605
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: Bitcoin Bitcoin Billymore was literally like two inches from my face.

606
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 2: What's going on? It was literally it was terrifying. Yeah,

607
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 2: he has got that seal look.

608
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: About him and letting people know Bitcoin Bullymore. Because he's

609
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: an accountant. He's going to comes from an accounting background.

610
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: You've got like high nineties or something in.

611
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: His HSC two.

612
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 1: Very good with Well, he was up from Brizze actually

613
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: whatever they call it. That inta they do something else.

614
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: But on his day off he works in an account

615
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: at like accounting firm for a big business in the

616
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: city in Sydney. Yeah, he's great with numbers. It's about

617
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 1: the only but not much going on twenty years other

618
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: than that.

619
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 2: Apart from that, well, yeah, it's like there's a player

620
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: in the league right as a playing not going to

621
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 2: say what it is, but I've splained to him a

622
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 2: few times, and you go, like everyone's got their strengths,

623
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: I suppose, but this player you talk to him and

624
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 2: not going on like you know, I'll go, oh yeah,

625
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: and there's probably not going on. But he can do

626
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 2: a ruby cube in like twenty seconds, get it done

627
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 2: to it? I go, man, that's anomally, what anomally to

628
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 2: not be the bordest person about to be.

629
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: The one who's who's my mate?

630
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: No, no is what Brandon is like that as well.

631
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: Brandon Smith does it as well. Yeah, I thought you're

632
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: my brand. I thought no, no, no, no, no. Brandon

633
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: can do a rubyscue too. He's got a really addictive personality.

634
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: So I never he would believe that would pick that seriously.

635
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: Uh, And he learnt on YouTube how to do a

636
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: Ruby's cube and now he just like he learns like

637
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: crazy shit, like he's learned like magic tricks and all

638
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: this sort of freaky ship before he's a freaky man.

639
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: What about the other game, the other big win during

640
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: the week, Broncos versus russ I.

641
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: Love the man. I love the way the Broncos played

642
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 2: in the Troll game. They backed it up. Theage is terrific,

643
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: built on simplicity. I thought they were attacked. You just

644
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 2: see Madges put a little bit of science in their attack.

645
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: The way they played that, you can tell a team

646
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: has prepared very well and there they're switched on tactically

647
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: by the way they play their short side footballs. The

648
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: subtlety and they did. They pulled off two or three

649
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: brilliant short side players. But Coops a rock hard fit mate,

650
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: like you could see in the trial games. You could

651
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: see they're a lot fitter. You just see the difference

652
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: with big guys by getting really fit. What that does

653
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: so like paint has was unstoppable, like his footwork some

654
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 2: like they said eleven tackle bus it may.

655
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: Look lot more like thirty one and he was everywhere.

656
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 2: Pat Carrigan, they're just Coops And I love the Hunt

657
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: and Reynolds mate. What a luxury to have two experienced playmakers.

658
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah. But what I also loved about half,

659
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: which was like the first time anyone who really used

660
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: him like it. Just because he's got a being engine

661
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: doesn't mean he's got to be out there for eighty minutes.

662
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,479
Speaker 1: I love to have mat I think Madge had him

663
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: on there for half an hour, took him off, put

664
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: him on the last twenty five minutes. It just allows

665
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: him to go right. I meant there for half an hour.

666
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: I'm just going to put all my energy into this

667
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: half an hour, and I can do the I don't

668
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: have to save myself in defense because they need me

669
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: for attack. I can do all the little things in defense.

670
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: Go off, get a good breather, do the same thing

671
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: for the last twenty five minutes.

672
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: You know, I've loved about pain as well. It's the

673
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 2: first time I've really seen him demonstrate a motion on

674
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 2: the field like there was a few times I saw

675
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: him turning and reving his teammates up. Paining to me.

676
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 2: Always looks like Peye. He's a machine, That's what it's like.

677
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 2: Sometimes he's just like he's relentless, But I don't see

678
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,239
Speaker 2: him like emotionally given a lot to his teammates. Now.

679
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: The other night really surprised me. Against the Roosters, I

680
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: could see him ginge them up, and I thought, man,

681
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: he's really come on as a leader during this preseason

682
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 2: as well for a big year.

683
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: Good to see West Tiger's another Tiger. Knights beat him.

684
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: But I thought they were really good.

685
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: They pinched at the Knights. I thought they were good.

686
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 2: Would be a huge let Jerome. He's going to take

687
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: a lot of responsibility this year. But without Happy there

688
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 2: there was a lot on his shoulders. Yeah, you know

689
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: that Buller as well.

690
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: During Buller was a freak.

691
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 2: I really like what they did. I thought they I

692
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: thought they defended with a lot of energy, which means

693
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: their attitude is good. They've got a lot of desire

694
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: to roll. May was good. We chorus, how come back

695
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 2: to the team and Buller, They're gonna have a good season.

696
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think so. And like the Knocks always

697
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: been on him. They made a lot of errors in

698
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: that game, but for the first time in years, they

699
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: actually had the ability to defend theirs. They were resilient

700
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: defending their try line and they turned away the Knights.

701
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: The Knights looked frustrated the first half. A couple of

702
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: times Bradman best. They just defended him well and sort

703
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: of stopped a couple of tries on the left hand side.

704
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: The Knights looked quit pretty radical.

705
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: They were lucky to get the winner and something through

706
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: Sis's about to start. Okay, we go and watch it

707
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: all right?

708
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: We do want to go through the tips just for

709
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: this week? Yeah, sure, have about that. I don't want

710
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: toymous buzz I know.

711
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: And tomorrow night on a Misus bulldog.

712
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: Knight's first Dolphins round two just top mate.

713
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: I like them. I'd like the Dolphins, but Knights at home.

714
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going nights as well. Worries Manly in New Zealand.

715
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: Spends a lot better from the Warriors. But Manly.

716
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think danger game, but I think Manly Panthers roosters.

717
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: I got pan Pan Panthers. Mate out of Boomtown, That's

718
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 2: what I'm calling Penrith. There's a good song called Welcome

719
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 2: to the Boomtown. Yeah. Well, I said to Charlie at

720
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: Fox Sports. I said, mate, use it in a big

721
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 2: home game, Penrith, Welcome to Boomtown.

722
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. You you tell a lot of people songs to

723
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,479
Speaker 1: use for the Fox countries, and I've never heard them.

724
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: Listen to your Well, let me tell you something last

725
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: year they used John Lennon's instant Karma once Boom.

726
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: They had record number of complaints Dragon South's.

727
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: Tee.

728
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: If you asked me last week, I would have said dragons.

729
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: This week, I think South.

730
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: I think dragons. You reckon, Yeah, I think dragons. I

731
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 2: think dragons were good.

732
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: Have done Cowboys, Sharks, Sharks.

733
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: I've got grave concerns about the Cowboys suit.

734
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with your Sharks. Raiders Broncos. Terrific game these

735
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: I think the Broncos are going to be too classy though.

736
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: I think the Broncos, but the Raiders will give him

737
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: a lot of cheek. It's a it's a good it's

738
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: a good clash of styles. The Broncos big pack and

739
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 2: they're fast, smooving little blokes from the outside backs. For

740
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: the Raiders, I'll get some cheek, but I think the Broncos.

741
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: And then the last game Eels Tigers, Tigers Tigers.

742
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: It's going to be very, very interesting to see how

743
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,719
Speaker 2: roles are used. Uses Dylan Brown from here on end,

744
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: because he'd be filthy. You won't say he'll be filthy.

745
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: And and look, we don't begrudge Dylan taking it. They

746
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: offer it. It's life changing money for him and his family.

747
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 2: But Paramatta fans they might give him a bit of

748
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: a rasin as well.

749
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I reckon maybe they. They they're unforgiving old parafans. Yeah. Anyway,

750
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: Matthew watch Bulldog.

751
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go buzz buzz.

752
00:33:58,480 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: Yeah anyway