1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: On scoring lives Ostrodia. This is the Wider Panalty Show. 2 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the reader. 3 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 3: Panicky Show coming up tonight, premieres in too Alan refuses 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 3: to rule out compensation payments to Indigenous Victorians as part 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 3: of treaty negotiations. 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 2: The brilliant Douglas Murray will be joining. 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 3: Me very shortly and he's got a bit to say 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 3: about toxic femininity. Me Horowitz will have the latest from 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 3: the US, including George W. Bush, Barac O'bama and Bono 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 3: teaming up to attack Donald Trump. And later in the 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 3: hour Kinsey's Schofield we'll have the key details on Sean 12 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 3: didny Comb's case and she'll tell us why Megan Markle 13 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 3: is issuing refunds. 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: And we have an extended. 15 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 3: Edition of Lefty's Losing It for you tonight, and it's 16 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 3: a reminder that actors should not speak without the benefit 17 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: of a. 18 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 4: Scripts are becoming less and less every day. Queer and 19 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 4: trans lives are increasingly being a resed. 20 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: At first Victorian premieres, Into Allen has refused to rule 21 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 3: out giving cash compensation to Indigenous Victorians. The URUK Justice 22 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 3: Commission's final report delivered one hundred recommendations to the Allen 23 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 3: government after a four year so called truth Telling inquiry. 24 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 3: One of the recommendations was compensation to make amends for 25 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: injustices which has occurred during and as a result of 26 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 3: the colonial invasion and occupation of First people's territories. Other 27 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 3: recommendations are equally at landish, including demands for Indigenous folk 28 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 3: not to pay taxes and rates and for the Victorian 29 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 3: government to divert a fixed portion of its tax revenue 30 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: to an Indigenous self determination fund. The Premier thinks all 31 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 3: of that sounds very poor. Positive she said it would 32 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 3: lay the foundations for a better future for all Victorians. 33 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 3: And she's not ruling anything in or out, and. 34 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 5: I'm going to give some time. 35 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 6: The government will take time to consider the depth of 36 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 6: the recommendations, and I'm just not going to rule things 37 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 6: in or out through a press conference. 38 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 3: Let's bring in Institute of Public Affairs Research fellow and 39 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 3: the director of the IPA's School program, Colleen Harken. 40 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: Colleen, what do you think? Do you agree with. 41 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 3: The premiere there that this report lays the foundation for 42 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 3: a better Victoria for all? 43 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 6: No, rito, this is just into Ellen conceitedly ignoring democracy. 44 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 6: Australian's already voted in the Voice referendum a couple of 45 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 6: years ago with a give or take sixty forty no response, 46 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 6: and even in Victoria it was a fifty four percent 47 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 6: no to racial division. We're very clear on the fact 48 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 6: that we don't want our country divided by race, that 49 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 6: we are one people and we want to celebrate as 50 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 6: one people. Indigenous Aboriginals, Indigenous population equal the same as me, 51 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 6: entitled to the same riots, the same privileges, same opportunities, 52 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 6: and so the importance of not making a two tiered 53 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 6: society couldn't be more important than it ever has been before. 54 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 6: These allegate or what are they requests will take us 55 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 6: back one hundred years to prior ninetizations. 56 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: Some of them are astonishing, and the fact. 57 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 3: That the Premier has received them so positively and is 58 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 3: not ruling anything out. Surely she is aware of some 59 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: of the more outlandish recommendations, but at this stage we're 60 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 3: not ruling anything out. You're right, we did have a 61 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 3: vote majority of Victorians said we don't want the Indigenous 62 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 3: voice to Parliament. If you don't want the Indigenous voice, 63 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 3: then I can say fifty four percent voted no to that. 64 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 3: I'm sure seventy eighty percent would have voted no to 65 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: a treaty like we're going to get here in Victoria. 66 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 3: How are they disregarding the will of the people so 67 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: without any fear that this is going to hurt them 68 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 3: otter state election. 69 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 6: Well, all power to the opposition. I believe they've come 70 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 6: out and rejected it, and I hope they go hard 71 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 6: at this because it is very significant. It will change 72 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 6: the future of the nation if this was to pursue. 73 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 6: It is the elites and the bureaucracy telling us what 74 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 6: we need. They are completely ignoring what the populace has 75 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 6: already said. And the idea that we can't have equal 76 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 6: opportunity unless we have, for example, different tax regimes depending 77 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 6: on your ethnicity as absurd. 78 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 2: Well, the whole thing is absurd to me. 79 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: Having a separate, enshrined type of voice is absurd, especially 80 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 3: when the participation rate has been so low. We've had 81 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 3: people elected to this body with as few as forty votes. Yeah, 82 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 3: and the cost of it is another consideration. There's been 83 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 3: some commentary today that it could bankrupt the state, a 84 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 3: state that's already the most in debt of any state 85 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 3: in this country. 86 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's the economics of it. I mean 87 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 6: it could bankrupt the country, the state in terms of 88 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 6: what they're required but they're asking for. But it goes 89 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 6: to the core principle of are we equal under law? 90 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 6: Are we one people? Or are we not? And the 91 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 6: idea that we want to set up small nations within 92 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 6: our state and that we lose sovereignty is very dangerous conversation. 93 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and he gave credit to the Victorian opposition for 94 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 3: saying they would reverse this if they were to be elected. 95 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 3: But let's not forget at the last state election they 96 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 3: were on board with this madness. The Victorian people had 97 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 3: no choice here. Can you see this becoming an election issue? 98 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 3: Obviously cost of living is top of mind, but I 99 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: can see this being a top tier election issued. Is 100 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 3: this something people feel very strongly about? And I think 101 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 3: in this state we really haven't had anybody speaking out 102 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 3: against it from either major party so far. 103 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: No. 104 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 3: Brad Battens has made a few comments. But we have 105 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 3: become accustomed to the liberals backing labor in its cultural war. 106 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 6: The liberals actually supported the establishment of the authority and 107 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 6: you know, being able to provide a strong opposition is 108 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 6: really important. Obviously, going the next section, I think you're right. 109 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 6: I think this will become a huge election issue. It's 110 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 6: shown as a very fair minded people, you know, that 111 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,119 Speaker 6: sort of the pub test type thing. We don't want 112 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 6: a scenario where the bloke next door is treated differently 113 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 6: for any reason, it doesn't matter who they are, where 114 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 6: we've come from. We like the idea and we value 115 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 6: the idea that we are equal people. So I think 116 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 6: this will become a really large issue if the Liberal 117 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 6: Party actually stands up with the coalition, actually stands up 118 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 6: for what is the right thing to do. 119 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: Colleen Harken, thanks for your time tonight. Joining me now is. 120 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 3: The best selling author of groundbreaking books, including The War 121 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: on the West, The Strange Death of Europe, and his 122 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 3: latest on Democracies and Death Coults Douglas Murray. Let's start 123 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 3: with another big win and payout from a media organization 124 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 3: to Donald Trump. Paramount Global has agreed to pay sixteen 125 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: million to settle a legal dispute with the US President 126 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 3: regarding a deceptively edited sixty minutes interview with Kamala Harris 127 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 3: broadcast on CBS. Let's have a look at an example 128 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: of this deception. Let's have a look at what Kamala 129 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 3: said in the real answer and what sixty minutes put 130 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 3: to air. 131 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 7: But it seems that Prime Minister in Netnya who is 132 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 7: not listening. 133 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 8: Well, Bill, the work that we have done has resulted 134 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 8: in a number of movements in that region by Israel 135 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 8: that were very much prompted by or a result of 136 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 8: many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen 137 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 8: in the region. 138 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 9: But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyah who is not listening. 139 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 8: We're not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for 140 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 8: the United States to be clear about where we stand 141 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 8: on the need for this war to end. 142 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: Just a subtle difference there. 143 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 3: The deception was an attempt to tip the scales in 144 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 3: favor of the Democratic Party, was alleged in the presidential election. 145 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 3: It didn't work, Douglas, and it was an expensive exercise. 146 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: It is extordaary, isn't it. 147 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 10: I mean you can sort of almost have a little 148 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 10: bit of nostalgia, Reta, don't you for remembering that they 149 00:08:54,720 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 10: to hear Kamala Harris fudging her way through question as 150 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 10: if she was a sort of really you know, school 151 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 10: age child, desperately trying to cover over for the fact 152 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 10: that she hadn't done her homework. I mean, just excruciating 153 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 10: hearing her, you know, remembering those wonderful Camela dialogues. You know, 154 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 10: that's why we've done things that needed to be done, 155 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 10: which if we hadn't have done the things mightn't have 156 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 10: been done in a very real sense or America. I mean, 157 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 10: it's just so astonishing that she was ever at the 158 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 10: level of candidacy that she was, and indeed in the 159 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 10: position that she was as the second most powerful person 160 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 10: in the United States. And you know, this is all 161 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 10: just a reminder that despite her obvious inadequacy for the 162 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 10: role of vice president, let alone president, there were so 163 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 10: many people in the media, let alone the Democratic Party 164 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 10: who were just like wafting her upwards, covering for her, 165 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 10: telling us, like with Biden, that she was at the 166 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 10: performance of best feat we've ever had, totally on top 167 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 10: of all issues. And yet you see in the unedited 168 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 10: tape what we all knew, which was that she was 169 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 10: hopelessly out. 170 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: Of her debt, as indeed was her boss. 171 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 10: But the fact that so much of the media was 172 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 10: willing to help her in that really is pretty astonishing, 173 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 10: and I think anyone who doesn't think otherwise, she just thinks, 174 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 10: what would it be like if we'd found that a 175 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 10: media interviewer had covered for Trump in that way and 176 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 10: that he had been floundering, or Jade Vance had been 177 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 10: found totally flat on a question of geopolitics like this. 178 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: It's really extraordinary, and. 179 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 3: They gave her such softball interviews and she's still floundered. 180 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: It. 181 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 3: It wasn't like these interviews were hostile like the ones 182 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 3: we've seen Trump and Vance. 183 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: Cop Now let's go to the UK. We've had the. 184 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 3: Orgy of hate at a Glastonbury music festival. Pascal Robinson 185 00:10:58,080 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 3: Foster got a Sad. 186 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: I'd never heard of him till this week. 187 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 3: That's the name of the dude who started the death 188 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 3: to IDF Chad and other chance on stage, enthusiastically backed 189 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 3: by the crowd. We saw plenty more political statements, all 190 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 3: in the one direction. Douglas, how do we begin to 191 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 3: understand these young, privileged people at a music festival really 192 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 3: having no empathy for people very similar to them who 193 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 3: were slaughtered at the Nova Music Festival less than two 194 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 3: years ago. 195 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 10: It's astonishing, isn't it? I mean, you know, the sort 196 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 10: of instinct one has on it in a way is 197 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 10: you know, to wish that these morons at Glastonbury ever 198 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 10: got a glimpse of what the innocent young people at 199 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 10: the Nova Festival saw on the morning of October seventh, 200 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 10: the fact that not much more than a year and 201 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 10: a half after the massacre of hundreds of young people 202 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 10: at the Nova Festival music festival, Glastonbury would keep on 203 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 10: having artists coming out in favor of the people who 204 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 10: did the attacks and not on the side of the victims. 205 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 10: It's not like it should be a hard one that 206 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 10: are you on the side of the big bearded rapists 207 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 10: and torturers and murderers and kidnappers, or are you on 208 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 10: the side of the innocent young people dancing in the 209 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 10: early hours of the morning at the Nova Festival. These 210 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 10: people have decided they're on the side of the rapists 211 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 10: and the torturers and the killers and the kidnappers, and 212 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 10: it's so despicable. 213 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: But there's something that needs to be brought out about. 214 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 10: This, which is has quite rightly been a lot of 215 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 10: rage about this idiot adult saying death to the idf 216 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 10: which of course me is death to all the young 217 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 10: men and women who are have mandatory service in Israel 218 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 10: and have to risk their lives fighting terrorists upclasts. 219 00:12:58,360 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: But there's been a lot of reaction to that. 220 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 10: But there's something else that this moron chanted on stage 221 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 10: is also worth lingering on. 222 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: I write about this in my Spedhead column this coming. 223 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 10: Week, which is he led the crowd in these chants 224 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 10: of that you say you want your country back, and 225 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 10: all the time with projections on the back of the 226 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 10: stage about the fact that immigrants built Britain and much more. 227 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 10: This is almost perfectly created to be as divisive and 228 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 10: hate filled a message as possible. He was saying to 229 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 10: white British people, not going to get your country back. 230 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 10: People like me are taking your country. Used terms like gammon, 231 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 10: a totally racist term that is used with. 232 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: Such ease by these people. 233 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 10: And he was just saying, no, actually we're here, I'm here. 234 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: You don't have your country anymore. 235 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 10: And of course the amazing irony of him doing this 236 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 10: in front of a crowd merrily waving Palastinean. 237 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: Flags, so they pretend to care. 238 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 10: About indigenous rights, don't care about indigenous Jews, and actually 239 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 10: hate indigenous British people hate white Indigenous British people. This 240 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 10: is out and out racism against the British public, and 241 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 10: I mean, you know it just it makes you despair 242 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 10: the fact that all of these people would pay and 243 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 10: chant along to hate all the times, thinking they're acting, 244 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 10: of course, in the name of love, and the organizers 245 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 10: and everyone else should be ashamed of themselves. I very 246 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 10: much look forward to the day when we never have 247 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 10: to consider Glastonbury again. 248 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 3: That was I'm so glad you're writing about that. We've 249 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 3: talked about that on the program, that entire song and 250 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 3: chant and to hear the crowd sing along enthusiastically, these 251 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 3: self loathing, privileged, almost uniformly white kids, it's almost like 252 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 3: a comedy skitch, only it's tragic. Douglas a superb piece 253 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 3: for The New York Post on the unscientific bullies of 254 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 3: the trans movement and how they were allowed to push 255 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 3: their often warped ideology with little pushback from. 256 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: The medical fraternity until recently. 257 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: And one of the most shameful tactics was to terrify parents, 258 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 3: to manipulate parents into backing so called gender firming care 259 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: for their child, with lines like would you rather have 260 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 3: a trans daughter or a dead son. 261 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean the column was bouncing off a very 262 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 10: interesting piece that you know that there was this DHSS 263 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 10: investigation into this a scholarly and learned paper by American 264 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 10: scientists and others looking into whether so called gender affirming 265 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 10: care or the giving of cross sex hormones and the 266 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 10: use of double mastectomies on miners, whether this was all 267 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 10: such a great idea after all. 268 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: And the reviewing question looked at all of the the rever. 269 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 10: Views that have been happening, not least that the CAST 270 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 10: review in the UK, and you have studies in Scandinavia 271 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 10: and all the places you're meant to listen to, studies 272 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 10: from saying actually showing that all of these countries have 273 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 10: understandably been stepping back from the brink of what we 274 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 10: were going into in recent years, so merrily and unquestioned. 275 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 10: And what was striking about it was that the authors 276 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 10: of this report in America wanted to remain anonymous, and 277 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 10: one of them was outed online. The people as transactivist 278 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 10: extremists outed this person online and he wrote to try 279 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 10: to sort of justify the findings of the report. But 280 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 10: what is striking to me is look at the fact 281 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 10: that even in the United States of America in this era, 282 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 10: medical professionals and others want to hide their names. 283 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,479 Speaker 1: If they are saying things. 284 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 10: That are widely expected now in other countries, such as 285 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 10: there is no everdence that giving children cross sex hormones 286 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 10: at an age where they cannot vote, cannot drive a car, 287 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 10: cannot buy alcohol mightn't be that great an idea and 288 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 10: or at least should deserve more questions. I think it's 289 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 10: an example of the fact we often talk about the 290 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 10: terrorizing effects of mobs and so on, but this is 291 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 10: how a very very sort of fringe part of the 292 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 10: trans lobby can actually insinuate its way into the mainstream 293 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 10: by trying to terrorize, terrify, and silence actual experts on 294 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 10: these questions. It's really shameful, and I'm glad that some 295 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 10: people have been finding their voice. 296 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 3: Well wish to find their voice in this country because 297 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 3: we don't even have a review. We are so backward 298 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 3: in this area. We've seen the UK, Scandinavia, the US 299 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 3: start looking at the evidence behind this entire dogma I 300 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 3: call it, I mean this gender firming care. But in 301 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 3: this country, too terrified to even review the practices. Now, Douglas, 302 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 3: before you go, you've done it. Now you've gone and 303 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 3: pend a piece about toxic femininity for the Spectator. We've 304 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 3: heard plenty about toxic masculinity, but it really isn't It's 305 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 3: almost taboo to be critical of femininity. In fact, we're 306 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 3: told the world's problems would probably be sold if we're 307 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 3: all just a bit more compassionate and had a bit 308 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 3: more empathy and had a bit more feminine traits. 309 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 2: Do you disagree? 310 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 10: Yes, I very much disagree. I mean, you know, if 311 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:39,479 Speaker 10: you take the view as seems our societies have decided 312 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 10: to take, that masculinity has toxic traits. Now this is 313 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 10: itself debatable, but if you say there are certain toxic 314 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 10: traits in masculinity, things that men should be wary of 315 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 10: doing in the public sphere, manners of behavior and so on, 316 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 10: it's always presented as if the answer to everything is feminine. 317 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: But of course, if you do. 318 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 10: Take this line of argument, then it should be recognized 319 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 10: that there are certain things pushed as feminine. 320 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 1: Traits in our society. 321 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 10: Which themselves can be deeply, deeply toxic. And the most 322 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 10: interesting one is the one you just mentioned. 323 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: There is for. 324 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 10: Instance, the presumption and whether it's just cinder Arden or 325 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 10: whether it's Angela Rainer. In the UK, there's this precise 326 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 10: Kamala Harris for that matter, there is this presumption that 327 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 10: if just had more empathy, everything would be better. And 328 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 10: they present empathy as a particularly feminine trade, which is 329 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 10: itself is a wildly sexist. 330 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: But let's pass over that for a moment. 331 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 10: But what's interesting about it is, and I give the 332 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 10: example of two things that happened in the UK within 333 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 10: a week. The decision to decriminalize abortions after six months, 334 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 10: which means a child in the womb with a viable 335 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 10: chance of surviving outside of the womb can be killed. 336 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 10: And this was presented to Parliament as a case of 337 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 10: having more empathy, more empathy for the mothers who find 338 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 10: themselves at eight months wanting to abort their child and more. 339 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 10: And then at the same week, another female labor MP 340 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 10: presented the bill for assisted dying otherwise known as euphanasia 341 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 10: or choose the data on which you want to die 342 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 10: and the state. 343 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: Will help you. 344 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 10: This argument, too, was presented solely on terms of empathy, 345 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 10: compassion and understanding. There was almost no analysis or a 346 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 10: serious rigor about whether elderly men and women mightn't feel 347 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 10: pressured by not being a burden on their families, or 348 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 10: not being a burden on the sacred welfare state, and 349 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 10: much more. That was all pushed aside and the bill 350 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 10: was voted through, as with the issue of post six 351 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 10: months abortions, all in the language of empathy, understanding much more. 352 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 10: But just consider that in these two cases, life in 353 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 10: the UK was truncated at both ends in those days 354 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 10: by Parliament and always presenting themselves as filled with compassion. 355 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 10: If we are going to live in a society where 356 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 10: we want to be alive to toxic traits, we should 357 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 10: be alive to them from whichever direction they come from. 358 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 10: So I don't doubt that some people will be triggered 359 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 10: by that. But reality, as we know, is often triggering. 360 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 3: Reality can be triggering, and I'm expecting just a wave 361 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 3: of outrage on x and other social media platforms coming away. 362 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 3: Douglas Murray, thank you so much for your time tonight. 363 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: Great pleasure is always reader still to come. 364 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 3: Lefties losing it and George W. Bush, Barack Obama, and 365 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 3: Bono team up to attack Donald trauma. Mei Horowitz has 366 00:21:55,480 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 3: the details. Welcome back to the reader Panney's show, and 367 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 3: it's time for Lefti's losing it and sadly, the celebrities 368 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 3: continue to beclown. 369 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 2: Themselves by sharing their dim witted. 370 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 3: Musings on world events, domestic politics, really whatever they see 371 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 3: trending on TikTok that morning. You know, I miss the 372 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 3: days when we could put actors on a pedestal and 373 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,719 Speaker 3: dilute ourselves into thinking they're really interesting and clever people. 374 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 3: These days, they're all too eager to lecture the masses, 375 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 3: and things go wrong when they go off script, when 376 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 3: they start forming sentences not written by teams of professional writers. 377 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 3: Then you get idiotic gibberish like this from Jason Bateman. 378 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 11: Do you think Trump would have gotten the same number 379 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 11: of votes if the people who voted for him had 380 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 11: access to or the curiosity to seek out and find 381 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 11: the truth, because they're not getting the truth over on Fox. 382 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 3: Oh the sweet irony, a clearly clueless, brainwashed Hollywood clown 383 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 3: bemoaning other people being misinformed and fancy saying that to 384 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 3: MSNBC's Nicole Wallace, Among the worst of the activists in 385 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 3: the mainstream media. Let's not forget Wallace and the rest 386 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 3: of MSNBC for four years, relentlessly pushed the Russian collusion hoax, 387 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 3: the fine people hoax, the suckers and losers hoax. They 388 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 3: even fell for Thesie Smullett hoax. They fell for that 389 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 3: one hard. You will find no dumber or more ill 390 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 3: informed viewer than those exposed to MSNBC. 391 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 2: And obviously Jason. 392 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 3: Bateman fits that bill because here he goes on a 393 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 3: silly rand, sounds like he wants to bring back Hillary 394 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 3: Clinton's deplorable moment and attack more than half of America. 395 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 11: At what point, if or do you think the story 396 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 11: would change from reporting on the outrageousness of Trump and 397 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 11: his actions, his decisions, his words, and instead moved to 398 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 11: the people that have voted for him twice. 399 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 7: And I know that goes back. 400 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 11: To the whole story of deplorables, and like as soon 401 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 11: as that happened, everyone just backed off and don't ever 402 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 11: talk bad about you know, America and. 403 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 7: Then the eighty millions. 404 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 11: But he's you know, he's never changed, like he's always 405 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 11: been the same. 406 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 7: He didn't do a one ady and. 407 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 11: Dupe everybody when he got to the White House. It's 408 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 11: the people that have put him there and then put 409 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 11: him there again. That really deserve a great deal of responsibility, 410 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 11: and and and and. 411 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 7: A talking to. 412 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 11: I'm sorry, and I speak. I say that with love. 413 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 11: They are our neighbors, as I said before, and I 414 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 11: know that they're that. They are, you know, deservedly aggrieved 415 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 11: and whatnot. But there's another way to do it. There's 416 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 11: somebody else in the Republican Party that can look after 417 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 11: your issues. If if, if it makes you sick to 418 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 11: vote for a Democrat. 419 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 3: Why won't you dumb rooms just vote for the Democrats 420 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 3: or for a rhino, you know, one of those Republican 421 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 3: in name only losers who governs. 422 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 2: Like a Democrat? Did really say all that? 423 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 3: And then add with love as he condemned half the country? 424 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 3: What a hateful simpleton he is. You will find no 425 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 3: better argument against actors being allowed to speak in public 426 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 3: without a script than Jason Bateman with a good script. 427 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 3: He is delightful, He's got his boyish good looks. But 428 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 3: then you hear that, and wow, you know what, I 429 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 3: can understand why the great Alfred Hitchcock insisted on treating 430 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 3: actors like cattle? 431 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 2: What did he say? 432 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 3: I never said all actors are cattle? What I said 433 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 3: was all actors should be treated like cattle. Yes, and 434 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 3: I've got another example of actors making fools of themselves tonight. 435 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 3: But let's just focus on MSNBC's Nicole Wallace for a second, 436 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 3: because she's scared, she's gutted, and she's full of anguish 437 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 3: for you guested gang bangers being deported to El Salvador. 438 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 12: I wish I could stop thinking about these guys being 439 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 12: scared in El Salvador. 440 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 2: And then. 441 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 7: I was somewhere I was. 442 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 5: I was in Westchester. 443 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 12: It's usually a baseball trip that has been I don't 444 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 12: I don't know what I was doing, but we stopped 445 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 12: to get somebody to eat, and. 446 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 5: I saw the paid ads that. 447 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 12: Homo Security was doing in front of the deportees who 448 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 12: are now prisoners in at Seacott, and I was gutted. 449 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 12: And I think I'm sometimes scared by how much anguish 450 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 12: I feel over how they're treating human beings. 451 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 3: I don't recall her expressing this anguish for Lake and 452 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 3: Riley or Rachel Moron or Joscelyn Nonghari. No, And I 453 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 3: don't think we've forgotten this moment yet, have we. Nicole, 454 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 3: one of the sick at takes of twenty twenty five, 455 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 3: and that's really saying something. This is what Wallace said 456 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 3: about cancer survivor DJ Daniel after Donald Trump appointed him 457 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 3: an honorary US Secret Service agent. 458 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 13: But I hope he never has to defend the United 459 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 13: States capital against Donald Trump supporters. And if he does, 460 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 13: I hope he isn't one of the sex who loses 461 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 13: his life to suicide. And I hope he isn't one 462 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 13: who has to testify against the people who carried out 463 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 13: acts of seditious conspiracy and then live to see Donald 464 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 13: Trump partner those people. 465 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 3: Oh dear God, I still can't believe she did that. 466 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 3: Even her fellow MSNBC anchors were looking on aghast if 467 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 3: you watch the full clip, even they're wondering what Nicole 468 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 3: Wallace is on about. But let's get back to the 469 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 3: actors insisting on forming complete sentences without the benefit of scriptwriters. 470 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 2: Here is Charlie's Thorn giving a lecture. 471 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 3: It's short on facts but big on hyperbole and fear mongering. 472 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 4: Immigration policy is destroying the lives of families, not criminals. 473 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 4: Women's rates are becoming less and less every day, Queer 474 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 4: and trans lives are increasingly being erased, and genderbe's violence 475 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 4: is on the rays. 476 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 3: Now to our favorite transactivist, and this time he's triggered 477 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 3: by a Bible verse on his fast food packaging. 478 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 14: Really don't like now to put a Bible verse on 479 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 14: my food without making said I don't want to eat 480 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 14: John three sixteen. 481 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 15: Get your John three sixteen out of here. 482 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 3: Here's an idea, don't eat there. But that's an activerse. 483 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 3: The content creator calls himself Lily Tyno, and he goes 484 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 3: around exposing waiters. 485 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 2: Who miss gender him. He even did it at a 486 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 2: Disney eatery. 487 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: The bottom is called coconut bread from Thailand. Cool, ma'am, 488 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: and the middle is from India. 489 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 15: It makes me want to immediately like leave because I 490 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 15: no longer feel like safe here. It's like, oh my god, 491 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 15: now has to be up. I'm not going to enjoy 492 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 15: this bread as much because my heart is up. We 493 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 15: should be able to go to places and. 494 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: Not have to worry. I don't think I really want 495 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: this bread tower. Actually, I think i'd rather have to 496 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: check that's okay. 497 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 15: Yeah, I think that's the training. We're supposed to say 498 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 15: friend or just not use gender language. It's like a 499 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 15: pretty big, big thing that Disney has done. Nothing was 500 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 15: wrong with bread. 501 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: I just don't want it anymore. 502 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 15: It's because they apologize, It doesn't mean she doesn't feel 503 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 15: sad or athena. 504 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right. 505 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 15: Like you've accidentally ever heard someone and say I'm so 506 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 15: sorry it was an accident. Do you expect them to 507 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 15: be like, oh, it was an accent. 508 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: Of course, no problem whatsoever. All of that hurt is 509 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: now undone. It's not how it works. 510 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? 511 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 3: All that because he was called sir once. From what 512 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 3: we saw, he wants white staff everywhere to change how 513 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,959 Speaker 3: they serve people to fit in with his lifestyle. I 514 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 3: wonder if he apologized to the women he photographed in 515 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 3: a woman's bathroom at Disney. He got quite the backlash 516 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 3: for that one. So he's now doing what he does best, 517 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 3: playing the victim and taking a break from content creation. 518 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 3: We will miss his input on this segment. Now, let's 519 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 3: have a look at a politician doing it right, exposing 520 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 3: the utter ugliness, hypocrisy, and yes, lunacy of the left. 521 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 3: Here is Republican Brandon Gill and he's questioning Diane Yentel. Here, 522 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 3: the president of the National Council of Nonprofits. 523 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 7: Are you a racist? 524 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 5: And I'm not a racist? 525 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 7: You're not a racist? 526 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 16: Particularly interesting because, according to one of your affiliate charities, 527 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 16: under your nonprofit umbrella, denial of racism constitute's covert white supremacy. 528 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 7: Are you a covert white supremacist? 529 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 5: Sir? I'm here to talk about the essential work. 530 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 7: Are you a covert white supremacy? 531 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 5: Can I talk about the work that nonprofits do? 532 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 11: It? 533 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 4: Now? 534 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 16: I'm asking you if you're a covert white supremacist, which, 535 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 16: according to one of your own organizations, again, denial of 536 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 16: racism constitutes covert white supremacy. 537 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 7: Would you like to answer that question? 538 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 5: I don't know what the question is. 539 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 3: Just incredible stuff. Damn them with their own words. These 540 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 3: people can't even play by. 541 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 2: Their own stupid rules. And watch as. 542 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 3: This leftist continues to flounder, refusing to answer the simple question, 543 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 3: are you a covert white supremacist? 544 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 16: So you refuse to answer whether you are a covert 545 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 16: white supremacist? 546 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 5: I am here to talk about the essential work that 547 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 5: nonprofits do. If you'd like to ask me, I. 548 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 7: Am utterly dumbfounded. 549 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 16: You are on directors right now, and you will not 550 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 16: say that you are not a covert white supremacist. 551 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 5: I don't have a definition in front of me. I 552 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 5: haven't looked at the definition. I'm not going to answer 553 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 5: a question about my personal that is, I'm here to 554 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 5: talk about the work. You're not nonprofit organ No. 555 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 16: I want to give you one more chance to do this. 556 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 16: Are you a covert white supremacist? 557 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 5: Why are we so off track from that? 558 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 16: I know i'm asking you. I'm asking you a very 559 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 16: straightforward question. 560 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 5: I've heard your question, Thank you, sir, And. 561 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 16: You're not going to answer whether you are a covert 562 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 16: white supremacist. 563 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 5: I would like to answer questions about the work. 564 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 16: This is non pud angel. Thank you that that is 565 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 16: really really astounding. I can answer very directly that I 566 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 16: am not a covert white supremacist, and I imagine all 567 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 16: of my colleagues can as well. 568 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 3: Joining me now is documentary filmmaker and journalist Army Heroiz. Army, 569 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 3: let's have a look at your possible new mayor in 570 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 3: New York Cities or a man Danny Here he is 571 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 3: talking about growing up in a third world country while 572 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 3: eating a rice dish with his bare heads. 573 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 11: So the third holy grail of taboos in American politics. 574 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 7: You have socialism of Islam and then you. 575 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 11: Have Palestine, and you are really going to the trifecta. 576 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 3: Let's go obating. 577 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 17: Let's go tell me why is Palisin a part of 578 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 17: your politics When you grew up as someone, especially in 579 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 17: the Third World, do you have a very different understanding 580 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 17: of the Palacine and struggle? 581 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 3: Amy, Can you explain to my audience just how impoverished 582 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 3: Zoran's upbringing was, how his parents struggled. Tell me a 583 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 3: little bit about his history and how he came to 584 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 3: be this socialist. 585 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 17: Let me tell you about the woes, the troubled upbringing, 586 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 17: the rough streets that he grew up on. First of all, 587 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 17: reminds me of aoc who cars played as a poor 588 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 17: person for years. We all knew she grew up in 589 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 17: a very solidly middle to upper class neighborhood in the 590 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 17: quote unquote Bronx actually was Yorkville, which is not the Bronx. Yeah, 591 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 17: Zoraman davi Is needs to pretend to be working class. 592 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 17: He actually grew up the sun the sky on of 593 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 17: a very successful anti American filmmaker and equally anti American 594 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 17: Columbia professor. Yeah, those are the tough streets he grew 595 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 17: up on. But I get why he's doing this, Rita. 596 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 9: He needs to look in the election. 597 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 17: He absolutely crushed the luxury belief voters, right. He dominated 598 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 17: the white affluent voters. He won Williamsburgh and Greenwich Village 599 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 17: and Tribeca. But you know what he didn't win. He 600 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 17: didn't win the Bronx. He didn't win Washington Heights. He 601 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 17: lost the black vote, he lost the Hispanic vote. This 602 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 17: is why he's cosplaying as working class. He's trying to connect, 603 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 17: but he can't because these people cannot afford. The working 604 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 17: class not afford to live in his fantasy world of 605 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,439 Speaker 17: his own making. They know, they know exactly what the 606 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 17: costs are of defunding the police more than the people 607 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 17: in fine Upper West Side neighborhood. 608 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 9: Right. 609 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 17: The people in the Bronx understand what the core parts 610 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 17: of brook and get what it's like we don't have 611 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 17: police on the streets. They cannot afford to live in 612 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 17: his cosplay socialist communist world. Okay, you know what, when 613 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 17: you look at the final talies, what happened. The symmetry 614 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 17: is beautiful. He won the upper class vote by twelve percent. 615 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 17: He lost the working class vote by twelve percent. That 616 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 17: says at all. That's why he's got to pretend to 617 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 17: be some working class person. 618 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 3: But far from the Democrats being worried about the influence 619 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 3: of these hard left radicals on their party, we've got 620 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,240 Speaker 3: more and more of them wanting to emulate Mamdani's methods. 621 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 3: Let's have a listen to Democrat Senator Chris Murphy on MSNBC. 622 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 14: He was proposing really big, sometimes radical ideas to take 623 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 14: power from folks who have way too much of it, 624 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 14: like the big realty companies that are jacking at rents 625 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 14: in New York City and transferring. 626 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: It to regular people. 627 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 7: He did have a laser like. 628 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 14: Focus on cost of living, on shifting power to people 629 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 14: who don't have enough of it. And I think of 630 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 14: the Democratic Party writ large spend as much time or 631 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,919 Speaker 14: as big a percentage of our communications time talking about 632 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 14: the costs of living as mom Nami did in New York, 633 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 14: we probably win a lot more elections. 634 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,240 Speaker 3: Ami that win a lot more elections. Do you agree 635 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 3: with that assessment? 636 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 16: No? 637 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,240 Speaker 9: I mean, how many time do I remove myself? 638 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 10: Da? 639 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 9: Look? I mean have they learned nothing from the elections? 640 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 11: Like? 641 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 9: I mean, I glet some'm gad. 642 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 17: It gives me business, right, gives me the ability to 643 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 17: come on your show and talk about this. So I 644 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 17: hope they continue on the road. Look, they've learned nothing 645 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 17: from the elections. That's the answer. They're going to continue 646 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 17: to lose elections. I mean, the numbers are starved. 647 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 9: Okay. 648 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 17: Uh, fifty out of fifty states move toward Trump in 649 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,399 Speaker 17: the law election, not forty five, Not forty fifty including 650 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 17: Washington DC. 651 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 9: Okay, trended toward Trump Trump more. 652 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 17: They voted for Trump more in twenty twenty four than 653 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 17: in twenty twenty in ninety percent of all three thousand 654 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 17: counties in the US. 655 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 9: I don't know what else you have to look. 656 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 17: At other than that, Okay, Because they're moving to the left. Look, 657 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,240 Speaker 17: the Progressive Institute did a poll recently and it showed 658 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 17: that sixty eight percent of working class voters, right, see 659 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 17: my comments from this last I don't have to say, 660 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 17: see my comments from the last thing. I just said, 661 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 17: sixty eight percent of working class voters said the Democratic 662 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,399 Speaker 17: Party is losing them because they are moving too far 663 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 17: to the left. They eroded there. They lost because they 664 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 17: eroded there. Forget about the swing voters and the dependency, 665 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:54,280 Speaker 17: which they lost significantly. Their own base was eroded. Okay, 666 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 17: the black and Hispanic vote they lost a significant percent 667 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 17: because of this left word movement. I don't understand how 668 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 17: they don't see that unless they think they can win 669 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 17: every election on the electoral might of white single women, right, 670 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 17: what I call the Jenta class. Unless they think they 671 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 17: can win every election on that, they're going to lose. 672 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 9: And MEA remind you, this is not a new trend. Rita. 673 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 17: Bernie Sanders won the first three primaries. 674 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 9: In twenty twenty. 675 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 17: The only reason why he didn't sweep toward the Democratic 676 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 17: nomination because Jim Clyburn, the black congress from South Carolina, 677 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 17: saved Biden's butt when he said, we need to move 678 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 17: away from from from Bernie Sanders. And that's why Bernie 679 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 17: wasn't the nominee. Otherwise he would have been. This is 680 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 17: not a new trend. They are going to continue to 681 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,240 Speaker 17: lose elections. 682 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 3: Now. 683 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 2: Former Presidents George W. 684 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 3: Bush and Barack Obama have joined Bono from You two 685 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 3: to criticize Donald Trump's cuts to US aid the feeling 686 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,280 Speaker 3: this interval is just going to make these cuts more popular. 687 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:05,439 Speaker 9: Yeah. 688 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 17: Okay, First of all, President Bush with all due respect, 689 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 17: when you're on the stage and touting what Bono and 690 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 17: Obama saying you're on the wrong. 691 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 9: Side of an issue, I'm sorry. Okay. 692 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 17: Look, USID was cut significantly by President Trump for this 693 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 17: particular reason. When DOGE did a a accounting of what 694 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 17: the money they were spending on, let me read you 695 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 17: a list. I think it's I don't want to miss 696 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 17: anything on what USA spent money on. Okay, they spend 697 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 17: one point five million dollars to advance DEI in Serbian workplaces. 698 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,760 Speaker 17: They spend seventy thousand dollars for a DEI musical in Iceland, 699 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 17: thirty two thousand dollars for a transgender comic book in Peru. 700 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 9: I'm not making this up. 701 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 17: This is real. 702 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 9: This real stuff. 703 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 17: I'm reading two million dollars for sex changes in Guatemala. 704 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 17: And by the way, Rita, that's just the cute, the 705 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 17: funny stuff that we're laughing on. 706 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 9: I'm but there's some serious stuff. 707 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 17: For example, we were funding nonprofits that were funding terrorist 708 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 17: organizations and al Qaeda. Okay, we were funding organizations that 709 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 17: kept the poppy seed alive in Afghanistan, giving and supporting 710 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 17: the Taliban. 711 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 9: This is the situation that we find. 712 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 17: And by the way, it is so disingenuous for them 713 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 17: to say, yeah, but look at all the good stuff 714 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 17: that you've all cut out. That's bologney, it's bs okay, 715 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 17: that is fake news. 716 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 9: USAID was absorbed into the State Department. 717 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 17: The State Department is still spending money on the important stuff. 718 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:39,760 Speaker 9: It's cutting out this crap. 719 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 17: I just said, okay, so it is pending money on 720 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 17: things that we need to spending money on. 721 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 9: But now it's not. 722 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 17: These unelected officials were there forever who have no accountability 723 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 17: to the US taxpayer, and now they do. That's the 724 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 17: situation we do. 725 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 2: Well. 726 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 3: It was such an eye opened out having having an 727 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,760 Speaker 3: understanding where this money has come from for these activist movements. 728 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 3: It never was organic, it was never grassroots. It was 729 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 3: these activists who were using taxpayer funds to push their 730 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 3: own political barriers, and the taxpayer was completely in the 731 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 3: dark about it. So I think it's one of the 732 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 3: great things that has come from Trump's second term. 733 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 2: Now, before you go. 734 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,720 Speaker 3: There's some angst at CNN, and The New York Post 735 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 3: is reporting that many are unhappy with anchor Caitlin Collins 736 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 3: because she's purchased a very expensive Nantucket vacation home at 737 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 3: a time when Army her colleagues are being sacked. They've 738 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 3: got all sorts of staff cuts and other belt tightening 739 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 3: measures happening at the struggling networker. 740 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 2: What should she be allowed to just enjoy her beach 741 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 2: house without this angst? She works hard? 742 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 17: Good for Caitlan Collins. Okay, good for her. Let me 743 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 17: buy all the beach houses. 744 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 9: Okay. I don't understand what the problem is here. 745 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 17: Do better, I think at the bottom line, Yes, there 746 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 17: are massive cuts happening at CNN. Why because CNN isn't 747 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 17: pulling a ratings. Okay, there's beach houses all the livelong 748 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 17: day at Fox News because they've got ratings. The CNN 749 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:24,280 Speaker 17: people are getting cuts because they can't pull in the money. Sorry, guys, 750 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 17: if you can't do the work, you ain't getting the 751 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 17: beach houses. 752 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 3: Okay, I don't have to say I think I think 753 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 3: he nailed it right there, A Merrowitz, Thanks. 754 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 2: For your time tonight Coming up. 755 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 3: Sean Didycombe's fans celebrate the music moguls acquittal on the 756 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 3: most serious charges it was facing. And why is Meghan 757 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,240 Speaker 3: Markle issuing refunds. Kinsey Schofield has the Laces. 758 00:42:59,200 --> 00:42:59,839 Speaker 2: Welcome back. 759 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 3: Joining me now is the host of the Today for 760 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 3: podcast Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey, Let's start with the trial of 761 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 3: Sean Diddy Combs. He has been sensationally found not guilty 762 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 3: of the most serious charges of racketeering and sex trafficking, 763 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 3: but he has been found guilty on two counts relating 764 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 3: to prostitution. The two federal chargers do carry hefty jail terms. 765 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 3: But did his fans were celebrating their quittles. 766 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 2: I should have been. 767 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 3: Laughing, Kinsey, but they're celebrating there with baby oil. What 768 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 3: else can he tell me? Can did he expect to 769 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 3: be home before Christmas? 770 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:55,840 Speaker 9: You know? O? J. 771 00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 18: Simpson's former attorney, Alan Deshowitz believes did he get off 772 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 18: on the existing guilty verdicts through a strong appeal process. 773 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 18: Other attorneys suggest he won't spend more than two years 774 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 18: in jail. So, you know, I would just like to 775 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 18: say we told you so, because right here on this 776 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 18: show we discussed how much the racketeering charges were almost insane, 777 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 18: that we thought that the jury would have a hard 778 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 18: time processing the racketeering charges, and that perhaps the prosecution 779 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 18: overstepped when it came to everything that they were pursuing. 780 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 18: So Rita and Kinzie, we told you so, but you 781 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,359 Speaker 18: know I worked with Dinny. I told you I didn't 782 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 18: have a bad experience with him, but I have seen 783 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,240 Speaker 18: a video where he beat the heck out of Cassie 784 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 18: and I would never work for him again after this. 785 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 3: No, I think we were all utterly disgusted by that 786 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 3: and some of the accounts that were described in court. 787 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 3: Some of them weren't illegal, but they were disgusting. But 788 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 3: let's move on to the Sussex is one of our 789 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:06,760 Speaker 3: favorite topics. Meghan makul Show Lifestyle company. As Ever another 790 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 3: silly name for a brand you just can't get. The 791 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,439 Speaker 3: name means the branding right. 792 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 2: But tell me about as. 793 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 3: Ever being forced to issue refunds. What's that about, Kinsey. 794 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,439 Speaker 18: Yeah, some fans who manage Meghan's Apricot Spread are now 795 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 18: being told their orders can't be fulfilled. The company says 796 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 18: demand was higher than expected and they are going to 797 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 18: have to issue refunds, and in email to customers, they wrote, 798 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 18: due to high demand, we are unable to fulfill your 799 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 18: order of the Apricot Spread at this time. We are 800 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,760 Speaker 18: refunding your purchase by the end of this week. Megan's 801 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,280 Speaker 18: also promising them a free jar. But like Grita, there's 802 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 18: a severe difference between hype or exclusivity and operational and 803 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 18: logistical failure, and Meghan Markel is the latter. 804 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 3: I love how they're selling this is that demand is 805 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 3: just so hi as if they I mean, what sort 806 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 3: of an operation has she got that she can't manufacture 807 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 3: a few more jam jars? 808 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 13: And we're not. 809 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 3: Talking about a complicated product here now, Kinsey, you've got 810 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:16,280 Speaker 3: some exclusive information about the launch of Meghan's new Rose. 811 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,279 Speaker 3: She released a twenty twenty three Napa Valley Rose on 812 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 3: the same day as the late Princess Diana's birthday. And Kinsey, 813 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 3: you say the Royal family isn't happy about this at all. 814 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,880 Speaker 3: They're not happy about the timing. 815 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:30,799 Speaker 2: Tell us what you know? 816 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 18: That's right? And again, sold out, sold out, sold out. 817 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 18: By the way, that was the second time Megan's had 818 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 18: to issue refunds because she didn't have enough product. I'm 819 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 18: curious to see if the Rose. Anybody to purchase the 820 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 18: Rose will get a similar email saying oops, sorry we 821 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 18: don't have the actual product you purchase. But as you know, 822 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 18: Diana tragically lost her life in a car crash by 823 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 18: an impaired driver. Making the decision to launch an alcohol 824 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 18: brand on Princess Diana's birthday by Meghan not just toned off, 825 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 18: but deeply insensitive, and a source close to the Royal 826 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,279 Speaker 18: household told me it's not lost on Prince William that 827 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 18: Meghan has launched an alcohol brand on his mother's birthday, 828 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 18: the very mom he lost in a drink driving tragedy. 829 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 18: When I asked if there was anger around Megan using 830 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 18: Diana's birthday to promote her commercial products, they said it's 831 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 18: what he's come to expect from her. He doesn't think 832 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 18: much of her. And they said that William and Catherine 833 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 18: have become quite good at ignoring the sussexes, but anything 834 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,760 Speaker 18: to do with his mother is still a tender spot. 835 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 18: I'm curious to know your opinion. Can you believe that 836 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 18: she would release an alcohol product, launch this big brand 837 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 18: on Diana's birthday, who died at the hands of a 838 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 18: drunk driver. 839 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,840 Speaker 3: It is so tone deaf, but I'm not surprised because 840 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 3: everything this couple does is tone deaf. Everything they do 841 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 3: just rakes of hypocrisy and self involvement, self interests, and 842 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 3: using Princess Die's birthdate for any sort of product launch 843 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 3: I think is in bad taste, let alone something like this, 844 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 3: which is obviously anyone with any sort of sense would go, 845 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 3: wait a second, that's possibly not something. 846 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 2: You want to be doing. 847 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 3: Now, let's talk a little bit about Justin Baldoni and 848 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,319 Speaker 3: Blake Lively. Their legal war continues, and it just got 849 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,880 Speaker 3: a little bit crazier. It's not just Taylor Swift who's 850 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 3: been dragged into this fight, but now Blake Lively's legal 851 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 3: team has subpoened Candace Owens and Perez Hilton, the blogger 852 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 3: Perez Hilton. 853 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 18: Why Kinsey, Because Blake's team believes that Candace Owens and 854 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 18: Perez Hilton are in cahoots with Justin Baldoni. So they're 855 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 18: demanding to see any community between Candace Owens and Justin 856 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,800 Speaker 18: Baldoni or anybody associated with him. I mean, the media 857 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 18: landscape is changing, and Internet commentators are becoming a new 858 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 18: category of journalists, and what happened to freedom of the press. 859 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 18: This feels like intimidation. I think it's scary and it 860 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 18: makes me nervous. 861 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 2: Oh, it is just so ridiculous. 862 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 3: To suggest that male feminist with the man bum Justin 863 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 3: Baldoni or anyone associated with him is briefing Candice Owen's 864 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 3: And even if they were, like, you're right, this is 865 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 3: the freedom of the press. You should be able to 866 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,799 Speaker 3: protect your sources. And as long as what they were 867 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 3: releasing wasn't defametry or breaching the law in some way, 868 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 3: I don't see what the problem is, but yeah, would 869 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,879 Speaker 3: be very shocked if there was any sort of connection there. 870 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 2: Kinsisco Field, it's always a pleasure. 871 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for your time tonight, and that's 872 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 3: all the time we have. 873 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,839 Speaker 2: I'll see you tomorrow night. 874 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,400 Speaker 3: For lefties losing it at nine pm, News Night is 875 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 3: up next