WEBVTT - Sauna work meetings; hangexity science; foods for hayfever symptoms

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, thanks for joining us again on the Body and

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<v Speaker 1>Soul podcast Good Healthy Ish. I am the host of

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<v Speaker 1>Felicity Haley and joining me in the hot seat today

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<v Speaker 1>is our fabulous digital editor Holly Berkleman. And yes, we

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<v Speaker 1>are dissecting the three hottest topics in the health and

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<v Speaker 1>wellness well this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Holly Delviish. Hello, how are you you're looking healthy ish today?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>My Lissa's got like little waistcoat on a cute little necklace.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm living the body and Soul life this week. I

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<v Speaker 3>am eating dense bean salad as we discussed the week

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<v Speaker 3>Everywhere So good, yeah, which we talked to me exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've actually just started going to Polati's again Reformer,

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<v Speaker 3>which I think is a great way to distract yourself

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<v Speaker 3>from the fact that you're doing exercise because it's such

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<v Speaker 3>a funny machine and I just just I'm fighting for

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<v Speaker 3>my life on that thing, and I forget that I've

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<v Speaker 3>actually done any strength training.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great. I'm loving it. So are you? Is this

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<v Speaker 2>something going to keep up? Or you just I think so.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not really in the mood for proper like weights

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<v Speaker 3>or really running at the moment. And so I've started

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<v Speaker 3>going back to Polarates with a friend and I am

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<v Speaker 3>loving it. So I'm going to try and keep it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Well as some of you might know, perhaps you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm into the pilarates, get me.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, See I can't stand yoga. Well we're yin and

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<v Speaker 3>yang totally.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why it works. Yes, I went last night.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to Wonderlus yoga jam with with Michael Franti.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually we had them on the podcast before and his

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<v Speaker 1>wife Sarah, and I dragged the husband along and lovely,

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<v Speaker 1>it was great. We had actually a really great date night.

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<v Speaker 2>That's cute. I love. That's so healthful, it's very healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like we need to go for a wine afterwards,

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<v Speaker 1>but we had to get home for the babysitter.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn it. Yeah. Anyway, what's happening this week?

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<v Speaker 3>So my pick of the week. This is a funny story.

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<v Speaker 3>The headline is want to network like a Silicon Valley

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<v Speaker 3>tech bro head to the Sauna, which I love, I love.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's hilarious. But the days of solidifying a

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<v Speaker 3>deal over a glass of scotch, like the Madman's style

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<v Speaker 3>approach is apparently well and truly in the past, and

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<v Speaker 3>this was reportedly pioneered by a Finnish entrepreneur called Hari Salomar,

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<v Speaker 3>who wanted to introduce Finland's love of social saunas to

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<v Speaker 3>the American startup world. And I didn't know this, but

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<v Speaker 3>apparently there are more saunas than cars in Finland.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is bonkers wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Which I do know that in Scandinavia they have quite

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<v Speaker 3>high tariffs on cars because they want to encourage like

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<v Speaker 3>a walking culture. But Salomar said that given the rising

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<v Speaker 3>anti alcohol movement, he wanted to test out this Finnish

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<v Speaker 3>style of like social saunaing in San Francisco at the

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<v Speaker 3>Salesforce Mega conference. So he rented out a sauna and

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<v Speaker 3>decided to pitch his startup is the Sauna, and lo

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<v Speaker 3>and behold, he ended up with a one hundred person

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<v Speaker 3>wait list, with Silicon Valley's finest tech bros chomping at

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<v Speaker 3>the bit to access.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, dare I say saunas are so hot right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Saunas are extremely hot right now, and especially the Finnish kind,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like the wooden kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of with some finishmen.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, totally fine, But he said that he thinks

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<v Speaker 3>the method works because it offers employees and founders an

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity to connect beyond this standard kind of alcohol fueled networking.

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<v Speaker 3>And I do think somewhere like Silicon Valley, which is

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<v Speaker 3>quite health conscious. As a generalization, I think it works.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know as a kind of an alternative, and

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<v Speaker 3>I do think in that same vein it might work

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<v Speaker 3>in somewhere like Sydney or just Australia as.

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<v Speaker 1>More generally or getting like just in your yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean for a female sitting there in your cozi.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think not his startup, it had rules that

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<v Speaker 3>you had to be in, like you had to wear

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<v Speaker 3>proper swimwear, so I can't like stark as.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And then there are also companies that are implementing things

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<v Speaker 3>like that, but they're having like mandatory like work swimwear

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<v Speaker 3>that's a bit more conservative than what you'd wear to

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<v Speaker 3>the beach to ensure there aren't like HR disasters.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the idea, I really like the idea. I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't know whether I could hop in there with

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<v Speaker 1>people from work in my no swimwear.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just don't think the power pose in the

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<v Speaker 3>bathroom before you go HiT's quite the same when you're

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<v Speaker 3>a New Cozi.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's funny and I'm interested to see what

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<v Speaker 3>happens in Australia if we'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Pick this up to who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, I want to talk about, well, the science behind anxiety.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I know these term surfaces at this time of year

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<v Speaker 1>and does I just wanted to remind everyone that's very normal,

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of us feel this way. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>anxiety effects around twenty two percent of social drinkers according

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<v Speaker 1>to research. I mean that's almost you know, one in

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<v Speaker 1>four or five. If you don't know what it is,

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<v Speaker 1>it's basically the anxiety you feel after you have a

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<v Speaker 1>big night out and occurs as a result of the

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<v Speaker 1>alcohol's effect on the brain. So when you drink, chemical

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<v Speaker 1>changes take place in your brain. You wake up the

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<v Speaker 1>next morning and feel pretty shit.

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<v Speaker 2>You feel awful.

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<v Speaker 3>My anxiety is getting worse as I get older as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So is mine, and I think as I become more

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<v Speaker 1>health conscious, it's actually becoming.

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<v Speaker 3>Worse and disrupts my sleep, and so then I'm anxious

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<v Speaker 3>and I haven't slapped, and that's just all and then

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<v Speaker 3>I get guilts.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, I had to bring this up because I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's getting worse for me as well. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think the good news is there's some science around it,

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<v Speaker 1>which probably made me feel a bit more seen and

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<v Speaker 1>brought the guilt factor down a little bit. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was an article in the Conversation that talked about, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the science behind anxiety, and there's two key things that

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<v Speaker 1>I want to share from it.

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<v Speaker 2>One is that.

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<v Speaker 1>Genes play a role, a significant role, okay, in feeling

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<v Speaker 1>this these feelings. So research published in the journal Addiction

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<v Speaker 1>shows your genes can explain almost half the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>you wake up feeling hungover and why your friend might not.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting. Yeah, so blame your parents perhaps, Well.

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<v Speaker 3>My dad actually doesn't drink, just purely for health reasons

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<v Speaker 3>and has it for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 2>So I wonder if I used to get anxiety. Yeah. Interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so basically, the stronger the physical effects of

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<v Speaker 1>how your body copes with the hangover can obviously in

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<v Speaker 1>turn trigger anxiety during a hangover and making you more

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<v Speaker 1>susceptible to anxiety.

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<v Speaker 2>And also the other thing that I thought.

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<v Speaker 1>Was interesting is if you are if you do suffer anxiety,

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<v Speaker 1>you will fare worse. Not surprising, great, but researches people

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<v Speaker 1>who already struggle with feelings of anxiety. Their day to

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<v Speaker 1>day lives are especially vulnerable to anxiety.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, study my brain.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so any I just felt like this time of year,

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to make you all feel heard and

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<v Speaker 1>seen that this is a real thing and it's okay

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<v Speaker 1>to feel this. And I also unearthed a recent story

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<v Speaker 1>on Body and So online where we discuss the worst

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<v Speaker 1>drinks to promote anxiety.

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<v Speaker 2>There go, thanks for plugging that.

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<v Speaker 1>And these are cocktails high in sugar and spirits as

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<v Speaker 1>they spike blood sugar and blood alcohol. Now we all

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<v Speaker 1>know the best way to prevent anxieties. Don't drink or

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<v Speaker 1>water is your friend the next morning obviously, Movement and compassion.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that last tip comes from me because

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably something that I'm trying to work on that

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay to feel this occasionally.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to enjoy life. That's why we leave the

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<v Speaker 2>ish on this podcast and just be nice to yourself exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm working on this. When I wake up feeling

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<v Speaker 1>crap over the next couple of weeks after a.

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<v Speaker 3>Few drinks, I love this compassion as a health goal

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<v Speaker 3>for all of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this spring of season.

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<v Speaker 1>Just quickly before we go, give us a quick rundown

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<v Speaker 1>of the most cliqued story of the week.

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<v Speaker 3>Most clicked was the unexpected foods that help hay fever

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<v Speaker 3>in spring, which is unsurprising to me because hay fever

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<v Speaker 3>has been I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Particularly this year. I've heard so many people.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, Holly, yes, I have been itching and like gargling,

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<v Speaker 1>and oh it's been terrible.

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<v Speaker 3>It feels like there's a lot in the air too.

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<v Speaker 3>It's constantly in my eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>According to nutritionist Michelle Chevali, food can ease our immune

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<v Speaker 3>response and inflammation a lot in abundance since they are

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<v Speaker 3>rich in flavonoids, which is great to know.

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<v Speaker 2>So one of the food so.

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<v Speaker 3>Five to try our ginger, garlic, red and brown onions,

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<v Speaker 3>herbal teas, and berries. And you can find out why

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<v Speaker 3>and which food you should also avoid at bodysore dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>Dot you. Thanks Holly, thank you, thank you, Bye.

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<v Speaker 1>Friends listeners, thanks for tuning in again.

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<v Speaker 2>To healthy Ish.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope you enjoyed this Friday app And of course, if

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