WEBVTT - Sunshine and Lollipops | 6

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<v Speaker 1>Just a warning, this episode contains descriptions of suicidal thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>From what I've seen, he had a very good lifestyle,

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<v Speaker 2>expensive watches, nice places to live, certainly had a top

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<v Speaker 2>of arrange Mercedes for the top of my head, traveled

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, had use of his wife's family's flat in London.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got no criminal record, He's not known to law

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<v Speaker 2>enforcement anywhere in the world prior to this, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he had all of the front of a successful, legitimate businessman.

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<v Speaker 3>I've relived this in my head over and over so

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<v Speaker 3>many times because it was just horrendous.

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<v Speaker 1>It's six am on a late spring morning in northern England.

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<v Speaker 1>The sun has already risen. On the top floor of

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<v Speaker 1>a terraced house, a woman is peacefully asleep.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just done me on in bed. I remember

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't have any underwear on. I just had a

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<v Speaker 3>brower on.

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<v Speaker 1>Suddenly there's a banging her front door.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was a postman with a parcel or something.

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<v Speaker 3>So I remember, like EFFI and Jeffing walking down the

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<v Speaker 3>stairs thinking why the fuck are they banging so loud.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a towel and wrapped it around me, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>so I could sort of eye behind the door and

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<v Speaker 3>grab my parcel. I opened the door and they said

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<v Speaker 3>it was the police. And my initial thought was something's

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<v Speaker 3>happened to my son, because if the police are knocking

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<v Speaker 3>your door at that time, you think something's happened to

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<v Speaker 3>somebody that you know. Never in a million years did

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was anything that I'd done. That was

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<v Speaker 3>not my initial thought.

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<v Speaker 1>As it turns out, her initial thought was wrong. The

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<v Speaker 1>police are here to speak to her.

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<v Speaker 3>At first, I only saw like three of them on

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<v Speaker 3>the doorstep, and then when I looked around them, I

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<v Speaker 3>saw that there was laws more of them. I remember

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<v Speaker 3>saying I've got no onncas on because they were trying

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<v Speaker 3>to put their way in, and I was like, I've

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<v Speaker 3>got no fucking knickers on, and they were like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't care, and just push the door and just

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<v Speaker 3>sort of frog match me upstairs, and then said I'm

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<v Speaker 3>go in the bedroom with this female officer and get dressed.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember I was on my period at the time

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<v Speaker 3>and saying to her, I need to go like sort

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<v Speaker 3>myself out, and she was like, well, I need to

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<v Speaker 3>come with you, and she basically came with me to

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<v Speaker 3>the toilet.

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<v Speaker 1>The officer watches her every movement. She's concerned the woman

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<v Speaker 1>might flush away her mobile phone, which could have incriminating evidence.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember one of the officers looking around my house

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<v Speaker 3>and saying it's a nice house, like you're not the

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<v Speaker 3>sort of person to be involved in this sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>They let her get dressed. She's taken into her front room,

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<v Speaker 1>where she's surrounded by a group of officers. They're from

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<v Speaker 1>the UK's National Crime Agency, tasked with fighting organized crime.

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<v Speaker 1>They're often compared to the FBI.

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<v Speaker 3>And then they sat me down on the sofa, read

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<v Speaker 3>me my rights. I was thinking, this is not me,

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<v Speaker 3>this is not happening to me, this is not real.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like a dream. And then they basically said

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<v Speaker 3>I was arrested for money laundring and being involved in

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<v Speaker 3>an international crime gang. And then I just burst out crying.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Fiona Hamilton and from The Times, The Sunday Times

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<v Speaker 1>and News Corp Australia. This is Cocaine Inc. Episode six,

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<v Speaker 1>Sunshine and Lollipops. Last time, David Collins was in Merseyside

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<v Speaker 1>where the cocaine retail market is chaotic but there's still

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<v Speaker 1>profit to be made.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes there is, but the problem of drug money is

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<v Speaker 4>it's dirty, meaning if you try to spend the cash

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<v Speaker 4>that you made from selling coke, then that's going to

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<v Speaker 4>raise suspicions about where all those banknotes came from. So

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<v Speaker 4>you need to clean that money to make it look

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<v Speaker 4>like it came from legitimate business. In the UK, gangs

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<v Speaker 4>do that by fiddling the books in legal businesses like

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<v Speaker 4>this tanning salon. Ten minutes on a subed costs you

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<v Speaker 4>three pounds in cash, no cards, so no electronic trail.

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<v Speaker 4>It's quiet today. There's only been three customers wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>use a sunbed, but that's okay because according to the

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<v Speaker 4>business accounts, which are kept on paper, at least one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred people came through. That sleight of hand means a

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<v Speaker 4>salon zonner can go to a bank and pay three

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<v Speaker 4>hundred pounds as a day's takings, making that money look

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<v Speaker 4>as if it's legal. Of course it isn't. Only nine

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<v Speaker 4>pounds is from real customers. The rest is from selling cocaine.

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<v Speaker 4>But once it's in the bank, nobody can prove that.

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<v Speaker 4>Do that five days a week, fifty two weeks a

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<v Speaker 4>year and you can clean almost eighty thousand pounds through

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<v Speaker 4>this one salon enough to buy a BMW or put

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<v Speaker 4>down a deposit on a house and a nice part

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<v Speaker 4>of the city. But the cocaine business isn't about scraping

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<v Speaker 4>together enough cash for a house deposit. In this world,

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<v Speaker 4>eighty grand is only spare change. The real operators they

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<v Speaker 4>clean their money using a similar method to this subed operation,

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<v Speaker 4>but they do it on a much bigger scale, Which

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<v Speaker 4>brings me back to the woman who was woken by police,

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<v Speaker 4>the person Fiona was telling you about at the start

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<v Speaker 4>of the episode, and how I found myself going to

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<v Speaker 4>meet her. So I'm sitting in a hotel room. It's

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<v Speaker 4>a secret location. So often people who want to give

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<v Speaker 4>you stories in the world of organized crime, do you

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<v Speaker 4>want to stay anonymous? It's not unusual. However, what is

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<v Speaker 4>unusual about this interview is who she is and what

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<v Speaker 4>she did. We're not going to use her name and

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<v Speaker 4>we're not going to identify her. So what you're about

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<v Speaker 4>to hear is her words, but an actor speaking those words.

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<v Speaker 3>In twenty nineteen, just before all this happened, I was

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<v Speaker 3>in a really good place. I was probably at the

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<v Speaker 3>top of my game. I just got out of a

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<v Speaker 3>horrible relationship, moved into a beautiful home. I was self

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<v Speaker 3>implied some a salary will theary, but on a good

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<v Speaker 3>month it could be anywhere between four and six grand.

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<v Speaker 3>Was exactly where I wanted it to be. I was

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<v Speaker 3>massively into my fitness. I had a great group of friends,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was just very very happy.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to call this woman Francesca. I'd describe her

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<v Speaker 4>as somewhat glamorous. She works in a beauty industry. I

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<v Speaker 4>won't be any more specific than that. She's warm, friendly

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<v Speaker 4>and bubbly. You can tell she spends a working life

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<v Speaker 4>chatting with lots of different people and putting them at ease.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the first time she or any of the

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<v Speaker 4>people she got mixed up with, have publicly told their story.

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<v Speaker 4>That story starts in late twenty nineteen and early twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 4>when Francesca was, as she says, where she wanted to be.

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<v Speaker 4>They now follows a ministerial broadcast from the Prime Minister.

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<v Speaker 5>Good evening, the coronavirus is the biggest threat this country

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<v Speaker 5>has faced for decades, and this country is not alone.

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<v Speaker 3>Then lockdown here and completely turn my life upside down

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<v Speaker 3>and screwed.

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<v Speaker 5>Me from this evening. I must give the British people

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<v Speaker 5>a very simple instruction, you must stay at home. I

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<v Speaker 5>am officially declaring a national emergency.

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<v Speaker 4>Life and frankly, freedom as we know it are both

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<v Speaker 4>going to change dramatically.

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<v Speaker 3>The breaking news stay at home, that is the order tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>More than three billion people in almost seventy countries and

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<v Speaker 3>territories have been asked to stay at home.

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<v Speaker 4>On the twenty third of March. In twenty twenty, as

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<v Speaker 4>the COVID pandemic swept across the globe, the UK went

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<v Speaker 4>into a national lockdown, and for those like Francesca who

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<v Speaker 4>needed to meet people face to face and make a living,

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<v Speaker 4>that was a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>I was out of work, so all of my money

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<v Speaker 3>just stopped. I skoot to the bank of mom and

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<v Speaker 3>dad and they don't have a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 4>What did your finances look like at that point?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely dire loads of debt, not just to credit cards

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<v Speaker 3>and whatnot, but to friends and family, which was just

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<v Speaker 3>keeping me up at night.

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<v Speaker 4>How much do you reckon? Roughly like total debt to friends, family, credit.

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<v Speaker 3>Cards, probably about twenty grand. At that point, I was thinking,

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<v Speaker 3>am I going to lose my home? Because I'd spoken

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<v Speaker 3>to my landlord and I'd asked him if I could

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<v Speaker 3>have a bit of a break on my rent payments,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was just like, absolutely not. If you can't

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<v Speaker 3>afford it, you can get out.

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<v Speaker 4>In May of twenty twenty, COVID restrictions started to ease

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<v Speaker 4>a little, but the beauty sector was still classed as

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<v Speaker 4>high risk, which meant Francesca would not be allowed to

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<v Speaker 4>work until later that summer.

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<v Speaker 3>I met a friend of a friend and she was

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<v Speaker 3>in a similar industry to me, so we were kind

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<v Speaker 3>of exchanging notes and having a bit of a moan

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<v Speaker 3>about it, and then she said, well, actually I've been

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<v Speaker 3>giving this opportunity to work and to buy for a

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<v Speaker 3>beauty academy. You get flown first class and you make

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<v Speaker 3>X amount of money. And that was initially how she

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<v Speaker 3>sold it to me, and then bit by bit it

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<v Speaker 3>became apparent that it wasn't what she initially said.

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<v Speaker 4>It was hand on heart. What did you think it was?

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<v Speaker 3>My first question was is it drugs? Because I just

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<v Speaker 3>knew that I would not smuggle drugs, But it was money.

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<v Speaker 4>What exactly were you asked to do? I was asked to.

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<v Speaker 3>Take suitcases full of money. I wasn't told the exact amount,

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<v Speaker 3>but I did know that it was more than was

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<v Speaker 3>legally allowed, and then that money would be sort of

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<v Speaker 3>supplied with some documents so that we could declare it

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<v Speaker 3>in Dubai.

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<v Speaker 4>So this was the job. What Francesco had agreed to

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<v Speaker 4>do was carry suitcases from London to Dubai, but she

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<v Speaker 4>didn't quite know what she was getting into because inside

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<v Speaker 4>those suitcases was millions of pounds in banknotes. This was

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<v Speaker 4>the hard cash street profit of organized crime groups, much

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<v Speaker 4>of it coming from cocaine. The way it worked is

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<v Speaker 4>that Francesca would go to Heathrow Airport with another woman

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<v Speaker 4>and check in on business class. They turn up in pairs,

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<v Speaker 4>pretending they were going on a girl's weekend away. In return,

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<v Speaker 4>they were paid three thousand pounds in cash. The group

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<v Speaker 4>would later become known as a Sunshine and Lollipops gang,

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<v Speaker 4>named after one of their WhatsApp groups. Francesca's first assignment

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<v Speaker 4>was in the summer of twenty twenty. What were thinking

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<v Speaker 4>in bed the night before?

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<v Speaker 3>I had mixed emotions, scared of the thought of checking in,

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<v Speaker 3>just overthinking every little detail of it, but also a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of excitement as well, because I've never flown

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<v Speaker 3>business class before. And too experienced to buy.

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<v Speaker 4>The day of the flight, Francesca and another woman took

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<v Speaker 4>the train to London together. How it worked was that

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<v Speaker 4>they would get WhatsApp messages from those higher up in

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<v Speaker 4>the chain telling them where to go and what to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody had to meet at a Starbucks in London. I

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<v Speaker 3>think we ended up having to wait four hours or something.

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<v Speaker 3>The other person I was doing it with said they

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<v Speaker 3>just do this all the time. They just changed plans

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<v Speaker 3>for one reason or another, and you don't get much detail.

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<v Speaker 4>The women didn't know who they were working for. All

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<v Speaker 4>they could do was wait for instructions.

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<v Speaker 3>And then a driver would come to collect us from

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<v Speaker 3>the Starbucks. This very swanky car blacked out, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like a proper show for in a people carrier. We

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<v Speaker 3>were getting messages telling us what to do next. They

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<v Speaker 3>want to know exactly where you are at all times.

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<v Speaker 3>The driver was obviously getting messed as well, so that

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<v Speaker 3>they knew exactly where to go, and then we would

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<v Speaker 3>go to another address to collect the cases in a

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<v Speaker 3>really swanky part of London.

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<v Speaker 4>Soon the driver pulled up outside a very plush building

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<v Speaker 4>in London's West End. The can you imagine TV stars

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<v Speaker 4>or maybe a hedge fund executive would live in.

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<v Speaker 3>We were just sat in the car, and then the

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<v Speaker 3>driver would get out and two people would come from

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<v Speaker 3>the apartment or the house with the cases and put

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<v Speaker 3>them in the back of the car.

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<v Speaker 4>The whole time the women never left the car so

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't see exactly what was happening or who was involved.

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<v Speaker 3>Between them, they'd count them and say to the driver, there's,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, this many cases, and I was like, what

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<v Speaker 3>the fuck is going on? There was seven cases. I thought, shit,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 4>And what did the cases look like?

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<v Speaker 3>Black hardshell, good quality, with the code on to open it,

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<v Speaker 3>which were clearly locked. And I do remember thinking, what

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<v Speaker 3>if they ask us to open it and we don't

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<v Speaker 3>know the code, that's going to look pretty sous. And

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<v Speaker 3>then the driver started driving again, and constantly you would

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<v Speaker 3>be getting text saying where you now, Like if you're

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<v Speaker 3>in traffic, you'd have to constantly be telling them you wereabouts.

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<v Speaker 4>The driver, who had still not said a single word

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<v Speaker 4>to the w drove them to Heathrow, one of the

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<v Speaker 4>world's busiest airports, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Closest to the airport I got. The more nervous I

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<v Speaker 3>got they did tell us to get a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>dressed up, just look a bit suave. So I remember

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<v Speaker 3>making sure I had a full face of makeup on

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<v Speaker 3>and just looking like I would be the sort of

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<v Speaker 3>person that would fly business class. I'm not there in

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<v Speaker 3>my you know, capatrack suit.

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<v Speaker 4>It had been hours since Francesca had arrived in London,

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<v Speaker 4>but finally late in the evening, throughout heath Row.

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<v Speaker 3>We get to the airport, get the trolleys. I got three,

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<v Speaker 3>the other person got four, and then wheel them over

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<v Speaker 3>to the checking desk. And it's pretty quiet in the airport.

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<v Speaker 3>There's not a lot of people there, and that's for

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<v Speaker 3>a reason because they rushed through, as you've not got

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of time to get onto the flight.

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<v Speaker 4>Whoever was organizing this operation knew that the later the

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<v Speaker 4>women arrived at the airport, especially as business class customers,

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<v Speaker 4>they would be less likely to have their luggage checked thoroughly,

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<v Speaker 4>and instead rushed onto the plane. Everything was set up

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<v Speaker 4>to give the impression that these were busy, successful women

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<v Speaker 4>running late for an expensive flight, not the kind of

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<v Speaker 4>people who you need to ask questions. Any baggage can

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<v Speaker 4>we take quite quick at the four weeks But in

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<v Speaker 4>that moment where you've got the seven cases and you're

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<v Speaker 4>picking them up one by one and putting them on

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<v Speaker 4>the little conveyor belt that goes into the back are yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>what were you thinking? Then?

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<v Speaker 3>It was a million thoughts like shit, what if they

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<v Speaker 3>opened the case? But then equally just smiling and playing

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<v Speaker 3>this role of this fancy lady that's flying business class.

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<v Speaker 4>It worked. Within an hour, Francesca and the other woman

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<v Speaker 4>were walking onto the flight, turning left sitting in business

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<v Speaker 4>class while their cases were being loaded onto the plane.

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<v Speaker 4>The flight attendant came round offering champagne, but until the

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<v Speaker 4>plane's wheels left the runway, there was still a chance

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<v Speaker 4>it could all go wrong. Francesca even daydreamed about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember visualizing security coming onto the flight. But once

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<v Speaker 3>the flight let a tarmac and you're up in the

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<v Speaker 3>air and you've got that glass of champagne in your hand,

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<v Speaker 3>the sense of relief I cannot explain to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Seven hours later, the plane landed in Dubai, a gleaming

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<v Speaker 4>city of skyscrapers and extravagant spending in the United Arab Emirates.

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<v Speaker 4>At this point, the women were sent the codes to

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<v Speaker 4>open the suitcases again via WhatsApp. Before they could leave,

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<v Speaker 4>they had to declare the money flagging down a customs official.

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<v Speaker 4>Francesca was led into a room with opate glass with

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<v Speaker 4>two officers inside, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Then they're just like taking the money out of the

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<v Speaker 3>case and then just took it on the table count it.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't bat an eyelid because as soon as you

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<v Speaker 3>see that paperwork, I mean one they must see it

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<v Speaker 3>all the time, or two that paperwork tells them everything

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<v Speaker 3>they need.

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<v Speaker 4>The paperwork Francesca's referring to is what you're handed over

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<v Speaker 4>to the customs officials. That letter said the money was

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<v Speaker 4>for a registered business based in Dubai called Omnivest Gold Trading.

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<v Speaker 4>That company was owned by a man called Abdullah al Fallassi.

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<v Speaker 4>To me, it seems amazing that they didn't ask any

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<v Speaker 4>more questions about two British women carrying millions of pounds

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<v Speaker 4>in their suitcases. Yes, there was paperwork, but at least

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<v Speaker 4>flag it is suspicious. Anyway, the emiralty officials simply counted

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<v Speaker 4>it out.

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<v Speaker 3>The first time I saw the money, I felt like

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<v Speaker 3>I was in a film or it wasn't real. It

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<v Speaker 3>was just so real. It was like a dream. I

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't believe how much it was. I didn't really think

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<v Speaker 3>it was going to be into the millions, and I thought,

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<v Speaker 3>what the fuck have I got myself into?

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<v Speaker 4>After being waved through, Francesca's final stop was the arrivals hall.

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<v Speaker 3>As soon as you walked through that door, there's somebody

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<v Speaker 3>there straight away to meet you, and obviously they know

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<v Speaker 3>that you've got seven cases, they know exactly who you are,

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<v Speaker 3>and they know what you look like. He then walked

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<v Speaker 3>with you to the cars. They took all the suitcases

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<v Speaker 3>and another car just had a driver in and that's

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<v Speaker 3>the one we got in, and then they basically just

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<v Speaker 3>said thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>That thank you was the last thing Francesca heard about

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<v Speaker 4>the money. Two women spent the next few days soaking

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<v Speaker 4>up the sun in a five star hotel and that

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<v Speaker 4>was it. Job done. Francaska pulled this stunt three times

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<v Speaker 4>in total, smuggling millions of pounds worth of criminal money

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<v Speaker 4>out of the UK, with a substantial part of that

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<v Speaker 4>link to cocaine.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I saw or realize the scope and depth

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<v Speaker 2>of the information on abdelayl Felassi's phones, that was a

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<v Speaker 2>real fall off your chair moment for me. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>expect it. I've never seen that before. It took hours

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<v Speaker 2>and hours and hours to go through it all. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was surprising, challenging yet really really good moment.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in a small windowless room in a hotel Hefro Airport,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm sitting Officer Ian trueby, a senior investigating officer

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<v Speaker 4>for the National Crime Agency. We're talking about the cash

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<v Speaker 4>smuggling operation run by the Sunshine and Lollipop's gang. Ian's

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<v Speaker 4>telling me about the moment he and his team got

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<v Speaker 4>access to a phone belonging to Abdullah al Fhallase. That's

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<v Speaker 4>the person listed as the owner of Omnibus Gold Trading,

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<v Speaker 4>the company on the letter Francesca was given to hand

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<v Speaker 4>to officials in Dubai back to our Phallas's phone and

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<v Speaker 4>what Ian was seeing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought, this is a treasure trove. And it

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<v Speaker 2>just got better and better, which only why I can

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<v Speaker 2>describe it. Everybody was pretty excited at that point because

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<v Speaker 2>I think we'd understood, we were probably getting an understanding

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<v Speaker 2>that we probably hadn't seen before about how this actually worked.

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<v Speaker 4>Ian is a thoughtful character and quite unassuming. You wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>think to me him, but he's the man who helped

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<v Speaker 4>bring down one of the biggest cash smuggling operations in

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<v Speaker 4>UK history.

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<v Speaker 2>It was my team that brought down the Sunshine and

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<v Speaker 2>Lollipops money laundering group. This was a group of people

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<v Speaker 2>that were recruited to carry suitcases full of cash out

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<v Speaker 2>of the UK and take them to Dubai, a very fundamental,

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<v Speaker 2>straightforward method of money laundering.

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<v Speaker 4>While straightforward, the group was undeniably sophisticated. As investigation continued,

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<v Speaker 4>Ian was able to work out smuggling operation started in

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<v Speaker 4>November twenty nineteen, a few months before Francesca was recruited.

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<v Speaker 4>In the summer of twenty twenty. In just over a year,

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<v Speaker 4>the cash mules were able to make eighty three separate trips.

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<v Speaker 4>For most of that time, things ran smoothly. It was

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<v Speaker 4>like a business.

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<v Speaker 2>They submitted their expense claims and then they were imbursed

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<v Speaker 2>for their train fare, with their hotels and taxis, etc.

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<v Speaker 2>So that is it in a nutshell.

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<v Speaker 4>But in October twenty twenty, the first crack in that

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<v Speaker 4>shell appeared. One of the cash mules was stopped at

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<v Speaker 4>Heathrow Airport. Thirty year old recruitment consultant Tarba Handlon.

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<v Speaker 2>By her own account. She was currently out of work

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<v Speaker 2>due to COVID, nothing to suggest that she was linked

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<v Speaker 2>to crime in any way, shape or form, had no

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<v Speaker 2>criminal record. She was asked some standard questions, do you

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<v Speaker 2>have any cash? She initially denied it. They decided to

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<v Speaker 2>call her suitcases up because something didn't quite hang right.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got five cases, you're only going for a weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>There's only two of you.

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<v Speaker 4>Inside one of Tarba Hanland's suitcases, officials found one point

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<v Speaker 4>nine million pounds vacuum packed and hidden with coffee in

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<v Speaker 4>an apparent attempt to ward off sniffer dogs.

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<v Speaker 2>On top Corra's phone there was a copy of a

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<v Speaker 2>letter from a company called omnive Escu Limited. Now that

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<v Speaker 2>letter was used to provide, if you're like, some form

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<v Speaker 2>of cover, primarily for the Dubai customs, because nothing ever

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<v Speaker 2>got declared in the UK. And that signatory turtle letter

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<v Speaker 2>is Abdullah al Faallesse.

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<v Speaker 4>There's that name again, Abdullah al Fallaci. Ian's team began

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<v Speaker 4>an investigation and we're able to establish Al Fallassi was

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<v Speaker 4>an Emorati national who spent his time between Dubai and

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<v Speaker 4>the UK. His wife's family had a flat in Belgravia.

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<v Speaker 4>In London's West End. After Tara Handlan was arrested, Ian's

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<v Speaker 4>team kept a close eye on him.

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<v Speaker 2>We were just very fortunate. And that's the only way

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<v Speaker 2>I can put it that mister l Fallaci decided to

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<v Speaker 2>come to the UK, because that's what really broke the

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<v Speaker 2>case for us. His arrest and examination of the content

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<v Speaker 2>of his phone just revealed the hoole modus operandi.

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<v Speaker 4>So what did you see on the phone.

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<v Speaker 2>There were many, many, many hundreds of WhatsApp threads, so

0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:14.680
<v Speaker 2>it was him booking travel tickets, him receiving images of passports,

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<v Speaker 2>fining details of the flights, when they traveled, who they

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<v Speaker 2>traveled with, what luggage they'd taken.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's an extraordinary treasure trove for an investigator

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<v Speaker 4>to have as.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, incredibly rare. It was a bit of an oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god moment. There is so much data on this

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<v Speaker 2>phone you just don't see it.

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<v Speaker 4>And just on al Falaci himself, could you talk a

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<v Speaker 4>bit about what he was like and his lifestyle and

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<v Speaker 4>who he was and his background.

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<v Speaker 2>From what I've seen, he had a very good lifestyle,

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<v Speaker 2>expensive watches, nice places to live. He certainly had a

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<v Speaker 2>top of arrange Mercedes at the top of my head,

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<v Speaker 2>traveled a lot, had use of his wife's families flat

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<v Speaker 2>in London. He's got no criminal record. He's not known

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<v Speaker 2>to law enforcement anywhere in the world prior to this,

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<v Speaker 2>So you know he had all of the front of

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<v Speaker 2>a successful religion businessman.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you know about his family?

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<v Speaker 2>Not an awful lot. I do understand that his wife

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<v Speaker 2>is a member of a pretty wealthy family in the UAE.

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<v Speaker 2>One of those strange things. He did appear to have

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<v Speaker 2>access to legitimate wealth. So what put him into this position?

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<v Speaker 4>I do not know. A bill of al Fhaalasei was

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<v Speaker 4>arrested in December twenty twenty one and charged with coordinating

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<v Speaker 4>the Sunshining lollipops network. By the time it went to court,

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<v Speaker 4>it's estimated that the group smuggled up to one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>and ten million pounds out of the UK. That's over

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<v Speaker 4>two hundred million Aussie dollars or nearly one hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>forty million US dollars. Al Fallasse was considered the ring

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<v Speaker 4>leader and admitted money laundering in July twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 4>aged forty seven. He was sentenced to nine years in jail.

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<v Speaker 4>It's difficult to know exactly how big a slice of

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<v Speaker 4>the one hundred and ten million smuggled out of the

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<v Speaker 4>UK was cocaine revenue, but Ian does believe that most

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<v Speaker 4>of the money came from drug dealing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've got my two hundred grand from this week's

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<v Speaker 2>drugs deals, I make contact with somebody, say I've got

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred grand, and they will say meet my person

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<v Speaker 2>at this location. The cash is handed over. The cash

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<v Speaker 2>is then taken to accounting house for want of better expression,

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<v Speaker 2>which has changed almost daily from what I can see

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<v Speaker 2>from what we've identified. In this case, that cash is

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<v Speaker 2>then consolidated with all the other cash that the group

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<v Speaker 2>has collected in from a variety of criminal networks, packaged

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<v Speaker 2>and then sent on its way. So you've got the collectors,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got the consolidators, and then you've got the couriers

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<v Speaker 2>and the people that have got control of the couriers.

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<v Speaker 4>By couriers, Ian is referring to people like Franchasca. They're

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<v Speaker 4>one part of a wider multi level operation set up

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<v Speaker 4>to service organized crime. Think of them as the white

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<v Speaker 4>collar part of the business. The collectors pick up cash

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:09.280
<v Speaker 4>from different criminal gangs. They take it to a central

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<v Speaker 4>point the counting house where Itch checked. Someone somewhere is

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<v Speaker 4>keeping the accounts so they know how much is owed

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 4>to which people. So where in that operation did al

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<v Speaker 4>Fallassi sit.

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<v Speaker 2>There are clearly others involved who we haven't positively identified.

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<v Speaker 2>He is near the top of the tree, but I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't comment that he is definitely at the top. But

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<v Speaker 2>he is a leading light in what was going.

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<v Speaker 4>On, a leading light, but not the big boss. Instead,

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<v Speaker 4>think of our Fallacie as the department manager. The authorities

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<v Speaker 4>believe that he delegated recruitment and day to day management

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<v Speaker 4>of the cash mules to team leaders. Throughout twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 4>the National Crime Agency linked several people to the smuggling

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<v Speaker 4>network conversation gating their phones. By analyzing these, they discovered

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<v Speaker 4>the mules as people like Francesca, would be organized into

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<v Speaker 4>different WhatsApp groups, each with a team leader. The team

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<v Speaker 4>leader would arrange their travel and expenses, then submit these

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<v Speaker 4>claims to the manager Alpha Lasse. Francesca, as a low

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<v Speaker 4>level employee, would never have dealt with what Ian calls

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<v Speaker 4>a collector or a consolidator, or anyone else involved in

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<v Speaker 4>the business apart from her team leader. This had one

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<v Speaker 4>advantage in that it meant if any of the cash

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<v Speaker 4>mules got busted, there was only so much they could

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<v Speaker 4>tell the police. It also meant that the higher up

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<v Speaker 4>and the business you were, the further you were from

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<v Speaker 4>the actual drug dealing that generated the money in the

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<v Speaker 4>first place, and which always attracts the attention of the law.

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<v Speaker 2>The controllers, unfortunately, are not in the country where the

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<v Speaker 2>crime that's in this cash is being committed, and in

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<v Speaker 2>this day and age, through digital communication, you can do

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<v Speaker 2>this from anywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>Another aspect of the sunshine the Lollipops operation that allowed

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<v Speaker 4>it to run smoothly was the faith they placed in

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<v Speaker 4>each other.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Hollywood and TV has got us. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>no criminal trust one another. There's all this rivalry and

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<v Speaker 2>all this bullshit that goes on, but there was a

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<v Speaker 2>huge element of trust just to hand these bags of

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<v Speaker 2>cash over, and where there were shortcomings or concerns about

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<v Speaker 2>what had been received as opposed to what was expected

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<v Speaker 2>to be received, it was all dealt with very calmly

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<v Speaker 2>and very professionally.

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<v Speaker 4>And that was actually part of the operation's success. The

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<v Speaker 4>cash mules, the people who are most likely to be arrested,

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<v Speaker 4>were just normal previously law abiding with ordinary jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>The last thing you want to do is when you're

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<v Speaker 2>moving your money is draw attention to it by getting

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<v Speaker 2>someone with a bit of forum to move it for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that just makes perfect logical sense. And it

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<v Speaker 2>also probably explains why they were paid so much, because

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<v Speaker 2>you're asking people who have been criminally involved before to

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<v Speaker 2>take a bit of a risk. So you know, three

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<v Speaker 2>ground for two days work isn't bad, is it? And

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<v Speaker 2>you can see the temptation, the business like approach to

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<v Speaker 2>it all. I don't think that's the shocking thing. Is

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<v Speaker 2>serious crime, but it's just a date jub to these people.

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<v Speaker 3>At the time, I didn't see it like I'm robbing

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<v Speaker 3>a post office and that little old lady that works

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<v Speaker 3>in the post office is now terrified for the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of her life. But I've thought about it now. I've

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<v Speaker 3>thought about nothing else for three years. It's terrifying. I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't even realize that my story was connected to cocaine.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know that's how father each is.

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<v Speaker 4>For her role as a cash meal in the Sunshine

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<v Speaker 4>and Lollipops gang, Franchasca was rested and charged.

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<v Speaker 3>I was suicidal At one point. I thought about taking

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<v Speaker 3>my own life at least three times.

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<v Speaker 4>Shit.

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<v Speaker 3>The night before I first went into court, I was

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<v Speaker 3>in a hotel room and I didn't have one ounce

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<v Speaker 3>to sleep, and I got in the bath and I

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<v Speaker 3>was drinking this glass of red wine, and I was

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<v Speaker 3>so close to killing myself that night. I just couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>stand just thinking about it anymore, thinking I was going

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<v Speaker 3>to be plastered all over the papers, and that my

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<v Speaker 3>business was going to be ruined and everything else that

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<v Speaker 3>came with it, And.

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<v Speaker 4>What stopped you from doing that?

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<v Speaker 3>My son and just putting him through the hell of

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<v Speaker 3>having to lose me. But it was the worst thing

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<v Speaker 3>that I've ever experienced in my life.

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<v Speaker 4>You were part of a group that smuggled one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>million pounds out of the UK. How do you reflect

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<v Speaker 4>on that and moving that amount of money?

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<v Speaker 3>I am genuinely sorry. If I could turn the clock back,

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely would.

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<v Speaker 4>Francesca was ultimately convicted for her part in the international

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<v Speaker 4>crime group. Samuels served jail time, while others were given

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<v Speaker 4>suspended sentences. Earlier this year, assets seized from Abdullah Alphaalase

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<v Speaker 4>included savings and investments in Emiralati banks, properties in the

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<v Speaker 4>UAE cryptocurrency funds, luxury cars, as well as three rolexes

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<v Speaker 4>and a Patech Filipe watch Alpha. Lasse has been ordered

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<v Speaker 4>to pay nearly three and a half million pounds to

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<v Speaker 4>the British courts. That's the amount authorities think he personally

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<v Speaker 4>benefited from the scheme. But it's just a tiny slice

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<v Speaker 4>of the smuggling operation he helped orchestrate.

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<v Speaker 2>We can literally just account for the cash that we seized.

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<v Speaker 2>We got one point nine one point four and four hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>What does it add up to It's part a five million.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you make of the fact that so much

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<v Speaker 4>money was going through the customs office at Dubai? Wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>it were the customs office is of any suspicion that

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<v Speaker 4>they were in on it or is it just that

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<v Speaker 4>they're used to seeing that amount of money move through?

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<v Speaker 2>The cash declaration rules in the UE slash Dubai are

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<v Speaker 2>different to the UK and Europe. You have to declare

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<v Speaker 2>it otherwise there is a penalty. But it does state

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<v Speaker 2>clearly on their declaration form the data is captured for

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<v Speaker 2>statistical purposes. Now I don't know why that wouldn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>generate some kind of investigation, but it doesn't, and it hasn't,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's not something I can really comment on.

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<v Speaker 4>I asked authorities in the UAE why the eighty three

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<v Speaker 4>trips made by the Sunshine and Lollipops gang didn't raise

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<v Speaker 4>any suspicions. They didn't get back to me on that

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<v Speaker 4>specific point. However, an official did tell me the UAE

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<v Speaker 4>takes its role in protecting the integrity of the global

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<v Speaker 4>financial system extremely seriously. They also added they work closely

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<v Speaker 4>with international partners to disrupt and deter all forms of

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<v Speaker 4>illicit finance. When the money obviously goes off in the

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<v Speaker 4>suitcases and it leaves Dubai airport, where does it go

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<v Speaker 4>after that?

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<v Speaker 2>We haven't got a lot of information about that, but

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<v Speaker 2>it does appear that an element of it was changed

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<v Speaker 2>into dereham so the local currency. A lot of it

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<v Speaker 2>was turned into physical dirhams, and then it was used

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<v Speaker 2>for something or it went somewhere else. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>We haven't got beyond that next stage.

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<v Speaker 4>So what is the next stage? All we have so

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<v Speaker 4>far is Abdullah al Falas's name on a letter handed

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<v Speaker 4>to the cash mules saying the money they were carrying

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<v Speaker 4>was for Dubai based business called Omnives Gold trading and

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<v Speaker 4>if that money was drug money as Ian suspects. I

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<v Speaker 4>only really have one option to go to Dubai myself.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm knocking on a door. It's got no sign whatsoever. Hi.

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<v Speaker 4>So to show you we're looking for omnives the goal

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<v Speaker 4>into trading and investigate what happened to the rest of

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<v Speaker 4>that one hundred and ten pounds.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm just opening that art.

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<v Speaker 4>He looks a lot younger than his police mug shot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>but that is Abdullah al Falasse.

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<v Speaker 1>It's clearly him.

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<v Speaker 4>It's clearly him. That's all next time on Cocaine Inc.

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