1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:04,519 Speaker 1: On scorn Lands Australia. 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: This is the Wader Panicky Show. 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the reader Panicky Show. Coming 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 3: up tonight. Your taxes funding neither classes for bureaucrats. Patrick 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 3: Carline will be here to discuss that and much more. 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 4: The politicization of the. 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 3: Australian curriculum is back in the headlines, including a requirement 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 3: to incorporate indiculous dance into MAT's classes. 9 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 4: Colleen Harkin joins me. 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 3: Shortly, the back between President Trump and cos Zelenski intensifies 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 3: as the Ukrainian leader declares the end of the war 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 3: is very far away. Kosher Gator will break down their 13 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 3: latest and later in the hour they always droll. Alex 14 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 3: Stein will bring us some good news from the US 15 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 3: southern border. The illegal immigration crisis is over. 16 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 4: To take long, did it? 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: And of course your favorite segment and mine left his 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 3: losing it featuring the most nominated film at yesterday's Oscars, 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 3: a Mexican musical about a transgender cartel leader. 20 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 4: I wish I was kidding. 21 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 2: Man to woman from Pstuina. 22 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 4: Is it for you for Me? Yes? 23 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: That got thirteen nominations. Can't imagine why people aren't going 24 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 3: to the movies nowadays. 25 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,279 Speaker 4: But let's start with the Day's a big stories. 26 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 3: And the same fringe indigenous group that brought down the 27 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 3: billion dollar Regis gold mine has now set its sights 28 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 3: on Mount Panama Rama, the home of the iconic Bathurst 29 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 3: one thousand. The Worried Jury Traditional Owner's Central West Aboriginal 30 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: Corporation launched a bid to have the peak of Mount 31 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: Panorama declared a sacred State Heritage site after its scattered 32 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: the ashes of former member Uncle Brian Grant there in 33 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 3: late twenty two. Bathurst A Local Aboriginal Land Council Chief 34 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 3: Executive Tony Lee Scott has hit out at this rebel group, 35 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 3: saying the proposal had been made without informing the Land 36 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: Council even though it is the legislated cultural authority. 37 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 4: Of that region. 38 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 3: The local Aboriginal Land Council had criticized Tanier Plibask last 39 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 3: year when she used the fringe group submission to block 40 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: the Regious gold mine that will cost the hundreds of 41 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: well paying jobs for that region, as well as around 42 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 3: two hundred million dollars in royalties. 43 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 4: For New South Wales. 44 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 3: Joining me now for more on this is News Corps 45 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 3: Senior writer Patrick Carli and Patrick, will we see the 46 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 3: minister side with this fringe group again? I do wonder, 47 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 3: And if scattering ashes in twenty twenty two is going 48 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 3: to be grounds for declaring an area an Indigenous heritage site, 49 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 3: then I can see that causing a few issues. 50 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 5: This is game changing with its audacity, isn't it. When 51 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 5: you think of sacred, you think ancient, you think of caves, 52 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 5: you think of trees or whatever. The ashes were scattered 53 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 5: in twenty twenty two, that's two three years ago, basically 54 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 5: the man's ashes. It wasn't even born or raised in 55 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 5: bass from what I read. It's such an audacious claim. 56 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 5: If it is successful, it actually opens the door to 57 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 5: actually laying ashes wherever and saying this is a sacred 58 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 5: site because we laid our ashes here last week or 59 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 5: last year. I mean, it's ridiculous. It is utterly ridiculous. 60 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 3: Well remains to be seen if there's any other grounds 61 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 3: for this claim. But as we know with the Region's 62 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 3: gold mine, we still don't actually know why that was rejected. 63 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: There's really not clarity on that decision. And that was 64 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 3: such a momentous decision Patrick, A billion dollar project, all 65 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 3: these well paying jobs for a regional area that desperately 66 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 3: needs them, and enormous amount of money going to New 67 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: South Wales in loyalties. 68 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 4: Premier means was a gas. 69 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 3: The Prime Minister didn't seem to be on board, and 70 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 3: yet Tania Plebusk made this decision. 71 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 5: I think anyone who's looked at that closely would be 72 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 5: a ghast. I mean, the argument was the Blue Banded 73 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 5: B and the story of the Blue Banded B. Now 74 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 5: apparently no one can trace that story back any further 75 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 5: than twenty twenty two. 76 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 4: Again, twenty twenty two. 77 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 5: Beggars belief that these massive projects that do they provide jobs, 78 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 5: they provide royalties, Everything was done properly in terms of 79 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 5: the application at the twelve hour basically was kibosh over 80 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 5: a story which honestly sounds like it's complete nonsense. 81 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: Well, even people within the indigenous community, people associated with 82 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 3: the Visual Land Council, have come to that determination, but 83 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 3: the Minister has sided with this group. 84 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 4: So here we are now. 85 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 3: It's been revealed that the federal government has spent more 86 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 3: than twenty five thousand on drama classes for just thirteen 87 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: Services of Australia employees in an effort to teach them 88 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 3: how to communicate with empathy. 89 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 4: The government agency listed the National Institute of. 90 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 3: Dramatic Arts neither to provide the training for its top 91 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: ranking leaders across two days. So that's that's pretty good. 92 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: That's twenty five thousand dollars for a couple of days. 93 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 3: Probably was a nice little junket or away from the office. 94 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 4: Not a great use of our money. 95 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have thought, surely you can communicate with empathy 96 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 3: without prancing around in a nier class, probably doing interpretive dance. 97 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 5: I was on the phone to Services Australia this morning 98 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 5: just oh were they They were not very empathetic. I 99 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 5: don't think it's working. So they're not getting banged for 100 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 5: their buck. Look, I think the fact it's twelve people, 101 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 5: Look it was for one hundred people or one hundred 102 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 5: managers or whatever. You'd sort of say, well, well, possibly 103 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 5: this is ridiculous. And you've got Services Australia doesn't provide 104 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 5: very good services, and you had the story not long ago. 105 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 5: I think last year with a speech writer was being 106 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 5: paid three hundred thousand dollars a year for speech writing, 107 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 5: which is miles above the odds. This does not pass 108 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 5: any pub test whatsoever. 109 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 3: I tell you the public service, it's a different world entirely. 110 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 3: Now it's looking like Victoria is going to have more 111 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: bad policy, perhaps three more decades. Of the state's transported 112 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 3: infrastructure blueprint for the next thirty years. 113 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 4: Is calling for slashing. 114 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 3: Speed limits to just thirty kilometers an hour in local streets. 115 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 3: He wants to expand desalination plant capacity, build more tunnels. 116 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 4: Patrick. The projects here are extensive. 117 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 3: The cost has been put around seventy five billion dollars. 118 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 3: But I've got to question the wisdom of anybody putting 119 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 3: this plan together, who thinks it's fantastic to have thirty 120 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 3: kilometer limits across town. What's the point? Might as well 121 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,799 Speaker 3: be out there, I don't know, going for a jog. 122 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 3: It's making the use of cars almost a nuisance. 123 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 4: If you have to go, you've got these Some of. 124 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 3: These streets are white boulevards and you're crawling along at 125 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 3: thirty kilometers. 126 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 5: It's the Nanny State gone mad. 127 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 6: Really. 128 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 5: I mean, I've driven down streets in Collingwood in the 129 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 5: north of Melbourne that are thirty kilometers an hour and 130 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 5: you can barely get up the speed hunt to get 131 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 5: over the other side. This is Look, I think the 132 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 5: big thing here is the fact that we've got no money. 133 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 5: I mean, Victoria's can't really afford a one year plan 134 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 5: at this stage if you're talking about seventy five billion 135 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,119 Speaker 5: dollars for all these expenses, and it includes extending tram 136 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 5: routes and all sorts of things that are fairly controversial 137 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 5: or have a massive impact. Yes, cars obviously are second 138 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 5: and drivers a second class citizens. Now you can't get around, 139 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 5: and it's all about sort of pedestrian safety or whatever. Well, 140 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 5: there are all sorts of ways to have better safety 141 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 5: for pedestrians. Driving at the same rate as you could 142 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 5: on escape is not really the first pick, is it. 143 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 3: And you know what a good safety measure for pedestrians 144 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 3: is is not stepping in front of cars. Yes, so 145 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: that's something that has always worked for me, something that 146 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 3: perhaps could be taught at school. Now, before you go 147 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 3: and ask you about the Alan government here in Victoria, 148 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 3: they're just sent to Alan government trying to keep twenty 149 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 3: nine documents detailing complaints about CFMU misconduct on Victoria's big 150 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 3: build road and rail projects secret. They want to keep 151 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 3: this secret. With a Victorian Infrastructure Development Authority, the public 152 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 3: service unit running the projects is refusing to release them 153 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 3: to the press. The Australian newspaper has been trying to 154 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 3: get hold of this under the freedom of information laws, 155 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 3: but they're suppressing here seventeen other documents as well. We 156 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 3: are in the suppression state. Victoria has been called that. 157 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 4: But why would we not want to know. 158 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 3: What's happening on the big build projects, these projects that 159 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: are over budget, taking way longer than we were told. 160 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 4: Surely we should know what's happening. 161 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 5: Absolutely. Look, it's probably tens of billions of dollars that 162 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 5: has been sort of potentially misused here. We are entitled 163 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 5: to know exactly how this money got used. We know 164 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 5: that the CFMEAU, whether it's Queensland or Victoria, the price 165 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 5: of their projects that they work on a twenty five 166 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 5: to thirty percent more. What struck me about this story. 167 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 5: It's a very good story. I think the surveyor has 168 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 5: had a meeting which is sent to Allen and she 169 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 5: was very sympathetic and said, I understand there are delays 170 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 5: and so on, but I'm powerless to actually do anything 171 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 5: about it. This is the politician who actually administrates billions 172 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 5: of dollars, actually saying, well, I can't do anything about this, 173 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 5: and when it goes to the depth of the extortion 174 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 5: and the stronger tactics that have been applied for so long. 175 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 4: It's victoria for you. Patrick Carline, thanks for your time tonight. 176 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 3: Joining me is Institute of Public Affairs Research Fellow and 177 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 3: director of the IPA's Schools Program, Colleen Harken. Colleen, let's 178 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 3: talk about the Australian curriculum. Analysis of the curriculum shows 179 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 3: of the more than twenty four hundred lesson suggestions and 180 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 3: the revised curriculum, three quarters relate to Aboriginal antres Strait 181 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 3: Islander history and culture. 182 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 4: And it even mandates that. 183 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 3: Maths teachers incorporate Indigenous dance and storytelling into maths classes. 184 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,119 Speaker 4: What more can you tell me about this revised curriculum. 185 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 3: It seems to be even more preoccupied with race and 186 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 3: climate and even more politicized. 187 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: It is so the National Curriculum is a body called 188 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: a Current that sets the national curriculum and it prioritizes 189 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: and it says its priority is Aboriginal and torres Straate 190 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: Islanders histories and culture, and sustainability, which is climate change, diversity, equity, inclusion, 191 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: all that kind of activist agender and it mandates that 192 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: it's in every subject, every year level, every opportunity. So 193 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: it's not just maths, it's physic it's art, it's science, 194 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: it's every single subject, every year level. The child is 195 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: exposed to this kind of activism within the curriculum. 196 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 4: And it's mandated. 197 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 3: It's not like the teachers have a suggestion, you may 198 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 3: like to do this. 199 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: They have to well, let's sort of what I call 200 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: a market is it states what the what they want 201 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: them to do, and then it gives them a whole 202 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: range of suggestions as to how they might go about 203 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 1: doing that. Okay, but it is mandated that these are priorities. 204 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: It actually specifically says these are the curriculum priorities. 205 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 3: Oh dear man, Now it seems like no amount of 206 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 3: activism is even enough. The Australian Human Rights Commission, which 207 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 3: we of course fund as taxpayers, has scolded schools for 208 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 3: celebrating Harmony Day on March twenty one, claiming that it 209 00:11:55,200 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 3: actually hides long standing systematic racial discrimination and that they 210 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 3: should rename the International Day for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination, 211 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 3: turning it the day from a protest against racial discrimination 212 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 3: into a celebration, so that seem to be upset that 213 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 3: this isn't angry and activist enough. 214 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 4: It's been celebrated. 215 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 3: People are celebrating different cultures and foods, and we. 216 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 4: Can't be happy in school. 217 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 3: We've just not always have a grievance, always just behating 218 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 3: the country. 219 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 4: Tell me about what's happening there. 220 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 3: And our school's taking notice of this service. 221 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 7: Yeah. 222 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: So there are about thirteen name days, Aboriginal and Toastrate 223 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: Island name Days, in addition to those cross curriculum priorities 224 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: we just spoke about. Now, Harmony Day in theory is 225 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: a really nice idea that we should celebrate our shared values, 226 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: but that's not what they're aiming at. This is again 227 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: a constant sort of activist agenda to divide us. 228 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 4: They don't want harmony. 229 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: What they want is this perpetual industry of griev and 230 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: they're teaching the children from very young to be indoctrinated 231 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: to that divisive agenda. We did a research article on 232 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: the Early Learning Framework, which is mandate by the government 233 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: for early learning centers, So we're talking children who are 234 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: literally in nappies who are mandated to doing a daily 235 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: acknowledgment to country to fly an Aboriginal flag. 236 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 4: And that's how we find. 237 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: Things like in prime in kindergartens where children are walking 238 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: in and touching the ground and saying always was, always 239 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: will be. This agenda is running all the way through 240 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: all of the institutions from the earliest of years, and it. 241 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: Does not stop once high school finishes. Right through the universities, 242 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 3: and mcquarie University has students been forced to sit through 243 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 3: a series of far left learning modules and in these 244 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 3: modules they are reportedly told that if you are living 245 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 3: in Australia and you are not Aboriginal or Torres Strait islander, 246 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 3: well you're a settler and deaf, war a guest and 247 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 3: Colin and I guess I understand then why we need 248 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 3: to have all these welcome to countries because the message 249 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 3: there is this isn't really your country. 250 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 4: It's not very inclusive, is it. 251 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 3: Well no, I've always said, as a migrant, I see 252 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 3: these acknowledgment of countries welcome to countries. Not only do 253 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 3: I see them as incoherent in many cases, but it's 254 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 3: a pc way of. 255 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 4: Saying, go back to where you came from. This place 256 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 4: isn't yours. 257 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 3: You're not as entitled to feel this is yours as 258 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 3: somebody else based on ethnicity. 259 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 4: I mean that is so toxic. 260 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: And how long do you have to be here before 261 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: they will consider you Australian? I mean at what stage? 262 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 4: Who am I? Who are you? 263 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: I mean you're an immigrant? You know I'm born here, 264 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: like we're all Australian. And this is the device. 265 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 4: You're a sessler. 266 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 3: This isn't If you go to mccurra University, you'll be 267 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 3: taught that doesn't matter. If you go back seven generations 268 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 3: and you have no other country in the world where 269 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 3: you have an allegiance or a link, you are still 270 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 3: a sessler. 271 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 4: You're a guest. 272 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so then reader, it's not I wonder that 273 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: our young people don't want to defend Australia. 274 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 4: We did a survey that showed. 275 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: That almost half of our young eighteen to twenty four 276 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: year olds, if we're in the same situation as Ukraine 277 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: right now, they would not stay and fight. And why 278 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: would you If you've been told all along you don't 279 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: belong you hear, your presence is illegitimate, why would you 280 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: stay in fight? 281 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 3: Well, the whole country is not legitimate. There is on 282 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: stolen land. There was an invasion, there was a genocide. 283 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 3: When if you're taught to be ashamed of your history, 284 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 3: why would you go to wolf to try to defend 285 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 3: that country? 286 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 7: Correct? 287 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: And we spend all this money on universities. 288 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 4: We want. 289 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: The return on investment is to have a workforce and 290 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: a future generation that are independent and capable people. 291 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 4: But what we're churning out is just a bunch of activists. 292 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 3: We are, and a bunch of self loathing activists. It's 293 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 3: not even healthy activism. It's not actually activism that I 294 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 3: don't know. It could be enriching and make them happy 295 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 3: and make them productive. Before you go the IPA's education 296 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 3: program class action, it's had a tell me about that, 297 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 3: and tell me in thirty seconds how you're countering the 298 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 3: madness that's happening. 299 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: So we change it from class Actions now called the 300 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: IPAs Schools Program because it was sort of confused with 301 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: being to do with law that wasn't helpful. What we're 302 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: doing is providing free curriculum materials for teachers. They can 303 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: download it free from the IPS from Schools program dot 304 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: org dot au website. We've also done things like given 305 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: every primary school in the country a board game about 306 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: the First Fleet that positions the story of who we 307 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: are and how we can you know the Australian, the 308 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: first Fleet and the arrival of that. All of our 309 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: curriculum materials are free. It's a balanced view of our history. 310 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: We have a history to be proud of and we 311 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: should be proud of it, and the children should be 312 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: learning to be proud of it and to know the facts, 313 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: like the balance, So just. 314 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 3: To know the facts, just to actually get something other 315 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 3: than this black armband view of our entire history. 316 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 4: Colin Harkn, thanks so much for problem still to come. 317 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 4: A left is a losing it. 318 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 3: The spat between President Trump and President Zelenski intensifies. Koshagaida 319 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 3: is here to break it down. 320 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 4: Welcome back. 321 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 3: Now it's time for lefties losing it and let's have 322 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 3: a gander. The Oscars the night devoted to celebrating excellence 323 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 3: in cinema. 324 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 4: Well, except it's not anymore. 325 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 3: It's a massive leftist snallfest featuring a bunch of pretentious films. 326 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 3: No one's brought it to watch but satisfy the Academy's 327 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 3: diversity quotas or inclusion standards, as they call it, And 328 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 3: of course they started the ceremony with an incoherent land 329 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 3: acknowledgment delivered by actress Julianne Hoff. 330 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 8: We gather in celebration of the Oscars on the ancestral 331 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 8: lands of the Tonga, Tatavium and Chumash peopils, the traditional 332 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 8: caretakers of this water and land. We honor in p 333 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 8: our respects to indigenous communities here and around the world. 334 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 4: The what tribe? Now? 335 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 3: Didn't they slaughter the previous tribes that lived there? Matt 336 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 3: Walsh tweeted this response to the Oscars vacuous virtue signaling. 337 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 3: He wrote, she paid homage to the Tomba tribe, But 338 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 3: the Toma moved into southern California thousands of years after 339 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 3: he had already been occupied by more ancient tribe. They 340 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 3: killed and displaced the inhabitants and took over. If they 341 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 3: get to claim the title of indigenous, then so do we. 342 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 4: Interesting interesting point. 343 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 3: They're almost like lands and people have been conquered over 344 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 3: and over again throughout history, and perhaps assigning collective guilt 345 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 3: or collective reverence and praise to people based on their 346 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 3: color or ethnicity is not the best of ideas. But 347 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 3: back to the Oscars, and when you think about what 348 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 3: a far left lunatic asylum Hollywood has become, then you 349 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 3: won't be surprised that the most nominated film this year 350 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 3: was a Mexican musical about a transgender cartel leader. Now really, 351 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 3: the film Emilia Perez, had thirteen nominations, including for Best Picture, 352 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 3: and he even scored a Best Actress nomination for a 353 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 3: dude identifying as a woman, Carla Sophia Gascon. 354 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 4: In the end, the. 355 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 3: Film won two Oscars, including for Best Supporting Actress for 356 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 3: Zoe Saldana. 357 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 4: And let's have a look at her stellar work. This 358 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 4: is just amazing man two woman? Is it for you? 359 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 9: For me? 360 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 4: Yes? 361 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 3: She got an oscar for that, and the audience those 362 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 3: crazy enough to sit through that entire film got an 363 00:19:52,920 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 3: edge education in all the different types of trans operations. 364 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 7: Blasi lab, blasi, control, Lavin, god blastin, what is that? 365 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 4: Adama? 366 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 3: And it's not just actors who've been spewing activist nonsense. 367 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 3: Seeinger Pink is never one to miss out on an 368 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 3: opportunity to make a full of herself. 369 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 4: He she is earlier in the year claiming that. 370 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 7: What ladies and gentlemen and every other gender that absolutely exists. 371 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 5: I give you the incredible genre. 372 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, but they don't pink. There are two, count them two. 373 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 3: Everything else's performative attention seeking. Now to a transactivist posing 374 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 3: this important question, the answer is quite obvious, I would 375 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 3: have thought, but sadly lost on this soul. 376 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 10: So trans people are considered a danger to women in sports, 377 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 10: yet they're considered a weakness to the United States military. 378 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 4: Make it make sense, MAGA. 379 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 3: I would have thought, that's because the US Army isn't 380 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 3: fighting against female combatants exclusively. If it were, then perhaps 381 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 3: your question would be valid. But alas, you just went 382 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 3: and made a massive full of yourself and provided more 383 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 3: content for lefties losing it. 384 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 4: So I do thank you for that. Let's have a 385 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 4: look now at. 386 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 3: The great work of Charlie Kirk. He goes to university 387 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 3: campuses around America debating lost lefties, and this next gal 388 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 3: needs all the help she can get. 389 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 11: Let's say there's you know, a black kid right now? 390 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 11: Would you rather have that black kid have a role 391 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 11: model be Kendrick Lamar or Clarence. 392 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 8: Thomas Kendrick obviously. 393 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 11: So not the not the black American on the United 394 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 11: States Supreme Court. 395 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 8: No, he's he's trying to ban interracial marriage. 396 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 4: He's trying to like do it. 397 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 11: Wow, he's in an interracial marriage. He literally like he's 398 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 11: married to a white woman. Yeah, I know the Roe v. 399 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 12: Wage thing, Like goes again, he's trying. 400 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 11: To ban his own marriage. 401 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 4: Yes, what can you say? 402 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 3: But it's not just the students, it's the teachers too 403 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 3: that Charlie Kirk has exposed for being out a fools. 404 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 3: Here he asks the teacher a simple question, what is 405 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 3: a woman? The guy thinks he's prepared for this obvious question, 406 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 3: but watching flounder. 407 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 11: For teacher, Yes, what is a woman? 408 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 6: What is a woman? 409 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: Oh? 410 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 6: Buddy? 411 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 12: Hi? 412 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 6: So we define gender as a set of preferences that 413 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 6: you have, excuse me, gender, gender the set of preferences 414 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 6: we have women. Woman is a social construct that we've 415 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,719 Speaker 6: agreed upon. Typically we imagine womanhood as makeup or whatever 416 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 6: it is. There is a difference between the word woman 417 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 6: and being a biological female. Women is a social construct 418 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 6: that we use. Listen for a suck, I'm telling you 419 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 6: what it means. 420 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 4: There you go. 421 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 3: It's just a set of preferences, a social constructs. So 422 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 3: if you like makeup and the color pink, then you're 423 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 3: a woman. I mean, can you get more backward than that? 424 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 3: They had more enlightened values in the nineteen twenties. These 425 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 3: are the so called progressives these days, that's what they 426 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 3: call themselves. And now, educator, I continue to dig himself 427 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 3: a hole trying to answer a question which a child 428 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 3: could easily answer. 429 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 6: Women is a social construct. We agree on these set 430 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 6: of preferences. If I tell you that I'm a man 431 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 6: is because I want you to know that I'm like 432 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 6: these set of preferences. If I tell you I'm a woman, 433 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 6: is because I want you to know that I agree 434 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 6: with these set of preferences. 435 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 11: And men give birth? 436 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 6: Can men? Or can males? If you listen to your 437 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 6: bio professors, you'd understand there's the difference between biology and 438 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 6: what we think. 439 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 11: Of I want to thank you for proving a great point. Well, 440 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 11: you are why we should eliminate the Department of Education. 441 00:23:58,720 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 6: Thank you very much. 442 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 3: That is scary. That is who's teaching your kids. That's 443 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 3: why you save up for those college fees. I'll tell you, 444 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,959 Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk is so effective because he just gives them 445 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 3: enough rope and they do the rest and no wonder 446 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 3: the lefties are tearing down posters for his events. 447 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 4: Look at this mug entitled brat Why do you feel 448 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 4: they need to do that? 449 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 8: Why do you feel they need to do that? 450 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 4: Why do you feel they need to tip tear posters? Dound? Okay, 451 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 4: I don't like them? 452 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 7: Why I think. 453 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 4: You know what? Why? 454 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 3: Joining me now is Sky News contributor Kosher Gator Kosher 455 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 3: Let's jump into the intensifying war of words between President 456 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 3: Trump and President Zelenski, who has completely shifted from pledging 457 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 3: to negotiate a piece still, President Zelenski now says the 458 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 3: end of the war is very very far away, a 459 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 3: statement that has seen a swift response from the White House. 460 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 10: He said he thinks it was going to go on 461 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 10: for a long time, and he'd better not be right 462 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 10: about that. That's all I'm saying. 463 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 3: President Trump also wrote, this is the worst statement that 464 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 3: could have been made by Zelenski, and America. 465 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 4: Will not put up with it for much longer. Kosher 466 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 4: Trump also. 467 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 3: Pointed out in that statement the Kiir Starmer's comments and 468 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 3: the comments from other European leaders who have pledged to 469 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 3: support Ukraine. They've also said they can't do the job 470 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 3: without the US. That's an important point that much of 471 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 3: the media has missed, and I do wonder how that's 472 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,479 Speaker 3: going to happen with relations at this point. 473 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 12: So as the dust from that dust up settles, there's 474 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 12: a picture that's clarifying it's coming out, which is, on 475 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 12: the one hand, you have a war that is not 476 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 12: winnable and was never winnable without the US and the 477 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 12: US involvement in large, large measure to the tune of 478 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 12: one hundred billion a year or more, plus this looming 479 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 12: specter of security guaranties in whatever shape or form that 480 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 12: took or was implied under the past administration for four years. 481 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 12: And on the other hand, you have an election that 482 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 12: took place, and Trump is a reflection of that election, 483 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 12: which is that the American electorate has long time not 484 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 12: been in favor of this. It is dropping like a 485 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 12: stone their support for the level of US involvement, and 486 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 12: Trump is reflecting that and personifying that. And it seems 487 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 12: like President Zelenski has not caught up to that. He 488 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 12: hasn't updated his software yet in his mind. Maybe it's 489 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 12: his own failing, Maybe it's that he's just been in 490 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 12: sort of the eastern East Coast, West coast bubbles whenever 491 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 12: he visits, and he doesn't understand the pulse of the American. 492 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 3: Electric really is advised better than that. This is what 493 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 3: was astonishing to so many. It was astonishing to me. 494 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 3: It was astonishing to a lot of pro Ukrainian experts 495 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 3: who been commenting on this crisis for three years, that 496 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 3: he seemed to think it was twenty twenty or twenty 497 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 3: twenty two. He did not go into that meeting with 498 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 3: any sort of appreciation of how the public mood has shifted. 499 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 3: What Trump can paint on and this is not a 500 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 3: position Trump has come to just in the last week. 501 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 4: He can paignt on this. 502 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 3: It should be crystal clear where the current administration stads. 503 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 12: Absolutely, it's where he has stood previously, even before he 504 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 12: entered political office. He has long time been against US involvements. 505 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 12: He's very much a non interventionalist. Everybody knows this. To 506 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 12: the point of advice, It almost sounds like to the contrary, 507 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 12: he's been getting really bad advice because he met with 508 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 12: Democrat senators before that meeting, like one hour before that 509 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 12: infamous meeting, had bad move and received advice from Mark 510 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 12: Kelly and Murphy of Connecticut and others who seemed to 511 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 12: have They ran to their ex feeds afterwards and presented 512 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 12: little snippets where they were saying, we think it's a 513 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 12: bad deal. It's reducing this to business transaction, et cetera. 514 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 12: So he seems to totally have misread how serious Trump 515 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 12: and Vance are. These are not just words. And now 516 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 12: there's reports that they're cutting off potentially all aid, humanitarian 517 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 12: and military. So these stakes just got a lot higher 518 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 12: for him. 519 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 3: I think that is that pause is going to be 520 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 3: the wake up call that we need now that if 521 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 3: you actually do want to have any sort of meaningful, 522 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,479 Speaker 3: lasting piece, you have to come to the negotiation table 523 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:14,479 Speaker 3: with the willingness to negotiate. Otherwise we're going to have 524 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 3: another three years of this disastrous war that the destruction 525 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 3: in Ukraine in particular is just heartbreaking now Donald Trump. 526 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 3: Kosher also pointed out Kiir Starmer's comments, and there's been 527 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 3: a lot of commentary about those comments and that of 528 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 3: other leaders who've pledged to stand by Ukraine. 529 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 4: Let's have a listen to what Kiir Starmer had to say. 530 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 2: The UK has prepared to back this with boots on 531 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 2: the ground and planes in the air. Together with others, 532 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: Europe must do the heavy listing. But to support peace 533 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 2: in our continent and to succeed this effort must have 534 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: strong US backing. We're working with the US on this 535 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: point after my meeting with President Trump last week. And 536 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 2: let me be clear, we agree with the President on 537 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: the urgent need for a durable peace Kosher. 538 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 3: He went very quickly there, from boots on the ground 539 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 3: to this plan is dependent on the US backing it too. 540 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 3: He agreed with President Trump about the urgent need for 541 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 3: a durable peace. 542 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 4: How do you see that statement? 543 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 3: Because people have listened to that first section about boots 544 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 3: on the ground, the whole thing only goes for thirty seconds, 545 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 3: and they seem to have disregarded the subsequent twenty seconds. 546 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 12: And in this datage of social media, you can just 547 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 12: clip what you need and then engineering narrators around that. 548 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 12: But it's really it was funny for me because it 549 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 12: reminded me of that great quote from the lead and 550 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 12: Greed Margaret Thatcher, who's seat he currently sits in, who 551 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 12: said the problem with socialism has eventually you run out 552 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 12: of other people's money, and he and all of Europe 553 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 12: is kind of showing that not at a national level, 554 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 12: but at a global level. Easy for them to talk 555 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 12: tough when it relies on spending American money and maybe 556 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 12: American troops. You can add troops to that sentence in 557 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 12: addition to money. And so they're all paper tigers. And 558 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 12: this Ukraine thing is sort of a flashpoint and what 559 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 12: Trump is trying to do in terms of recalibrating the 560 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 12: European US alliance as it released to defense more broadly, 561 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 12: and this is just an accelerant, I think, to that 562 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 12: endgame that he wants to get to. 563 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 3: And we do hear a lot from the European countries 564 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 3: about how much they're doing for Ukraine, how much money 565 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 3: they're contributing, how strong their support is. Meanwhile, this is 566 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 3: the reality there. You imported Russian fossil fuels in the 567 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 3: third year of the evasion. The amount that they imported 568 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 3: surpassed the eighteen point seven billion of financial aid they 569 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 3: sent to Ukraine in twenty twenty four. So Kosha, on 570 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 3: the one hand, they are providing some aid, none of 571 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 3: them as much as the US, but they're also enriching 572 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 3: Russia because there are inn energy policies are so broken 573 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 3: that they have become reliant on Russia for their energy. 574 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 12: That's such a great point because there's been a lot 575 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 12: of focus on one side of the ledger, which is 576 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 12: how much money the US is spending versus them on defense, 577 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 12: and there's some dispute around the number we've put into Ukraine. 578 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 12: But the point is nobody disputes of the US is 579 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 12: carrying the line's share of it. But the other side 580 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 12: of the ledsuer what you're showing is fascinating too, because 581 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 12: if they really cared, they would, I don't know, Germany 582 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 12: would turn back on their nuclear industry that they decimated 583 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 12: for green and other reasons. That would be one way 584 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 12: to weaken them, maybe buy more from the US, maybe 585 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 12: cut other types of deals. They're not doing that, so 586 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 12: it's all talk, little action unless it's easy action like 587 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 12: sanctioning Russia or freezing some of their assets in the 588 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 12: banking sector. They've done a little bit there, but not 589 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 12: really much more. And unless Zelensky comes back to the table, 590 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 12: I think you're just going to see this whole trend continue, and. 591 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 3: All this talk about the Trump administration is pro Russia 592 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 3: propute to this absolute idiom nonsense. 593 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,479 Speaker 4: Passing for analysis, let's not forget. 594 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 3: Even in the first Trump term, he was in Europe 595 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,239 Speaker 3: telling Germany and other countries do not become reliant on 596 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 3: Russian energy. It is a weakness, and they laughed at 597 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 3: him Kosher. They did not heed that advice at all. 598 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,719 Speaker 3: And here we are where they are emboldening, enriching the 599 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 3: Putin regime at a time when they're saying that we 600 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 3: stand with Ukraine. 601 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 12: Great point, and so many of the things that Trump says, 602 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 12: they age really well when they come out of his mouth. 603 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 4: People don't like them. 604 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 12: He's a little bit coarse, he's a little bit rough 605 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 12: around the edges, but they always age and he always 606 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 12: ends up being true. And that was something that was 607 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 12: very prescient, as are many other things that he said. 608 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 12: And on the flip side, a lot of these European 609 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 12: leaders are not exactly sympathetic figures. Certainly not kurre Steimer 610 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 12: among the electorate, not Zelenski. A lot of people just 611 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 12: don't like him personally in terms of his demeanor and 612 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 12: the amount of travel he does. And he goes to 613 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 12: awards shows and has rung the bell at the Stock Exchange. 614 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 4: Fashion magazine. 615 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 12: Yes, here's aisympthetic figure. And on the side. They're trying 616 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 12: to paint Trump as a stewge of Russia, and that 617 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 12: whole thing has lost as potency, so that's not going 618 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 12: to work anymore. 619 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 4: No, I think it had a bit more. 620 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 3: Credibility when they were running that entire Russian collusion hoax, 621 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 3: not credibility, that's the wrong word. But people were believing 622 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 3: that hysteria. But since that's been completely debunked, it just 623 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 3: sounds like desperation. And on Europe here is some more 624 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 3: sobering data. Again, Europeans, many of them feel that Ukraine 625 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 3: should be getting more support. The polling shows that you 626 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 3: can see that there, but the polling also shows that 627 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 3: they don't want that support to come for their country. 628 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 3: As you can see, they're even the countries with the 629 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 3: highest percentage of people wanting greater support for Ukraine, Denmark 630 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 3: there is at the top of the list. Sixty six 631 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 3: percent think Ukraine deserves more support, but only seventeen percent 632 00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 3: of Dan's kosher what. 633 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 4: Denm to increase its support. 634 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 3: It really just sums up this European virtue signaling where 635 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 3: they talk a big game, but really even their own 636 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 3: populations don't have the appetite for greater support and this 637 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 3: is on their doorsteps. 638 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:18,439 Speaker 4: I don't know. 639 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 3: I see how people think Americans should care more about this. 640 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 3: You shouldn't have an America first approach in the United 641 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 3: States when this conflict is in Europe and the Europeans 642 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 3: seem to be a little bit apathetic about it. 643 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 12: Yeah, it's going to be a big reckoning for them 644 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 12: because the flip side of them stepping up spending on 645 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 12: defense and maybe them providing the security guarantee is going 646 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 12: to mean cutting back spending, austerity measures, these big lavish 647 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 12: social safety nets that Europe has loved and had for 648 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 12: half a century. There are meaningful repercussions from this for 649 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 12: them to kind of recalibrate their approach to government as 650 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 12: a whole. And the other thing about that is that's 651 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,919 Speaker 12: very useful. Is it gets to the crux of the point, 652 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 12: which is, yes, we all support this war ending, We 653 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,280 Speaker 12: support Ukraine's right to sovereignty. We certainly support their soldiers 654 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 12: and civilians who've been harmed and killed and injured and displaced. 655 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 12: We support democracy. Everybody supports those things. But when the 656 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 12: rubber hits the road, what does it mean in terms 657 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 12: of prioritization and you as a nation spending money and 658 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 12: spending troops to do that. That's where things shift because 659 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 12: we live in reality, we don't live in utopia. And 660 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 12: that's when that even the DN see that, and everybody 661 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 12: sees it, but the leaders don't seem to want to 662 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 12: acknowledge it. 663 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 3: Well, most people do see it, but sadly the bulk 664 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 3: of the media seems to be not living in reality. 665 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 3: They're living in some fantasy world. Well, it's some sort 666 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 3: of Greta Thumberg approach to geopolitics, where you know what 667 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 3: you want to happen must happen regardless of the reality. 668 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 3: And the reality is Ukraine is losing this war. America 669 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 3: doesn't want to keep funding it. And either you surrender 670 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 3: to Russia, which nobody wants. You keep fighting with backing 671 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 3: of European countries and the US soldiers on the ground, 672 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 3: which could spark World War III with a nuclear power. 673 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 4: I don't think anybody wants that either. 674 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 3: Or you negotiate a peace still that's advantageous to Ukraine. 675 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 3: And that's where we were before this meltdown in the 676 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 3: Oval Office, and we've seen many pro Ukraine foreign policy experts, 677 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 3: those who have championed extra funding for Ukraine from the 678 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 3: US have admired Zelenski for many years, be appalled by 679 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 3: his antics in the White House and what has followed, 680 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 3: and among them is Washington Post columnist Mark Theeson, who 681 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 3: has written a piece that saying Zelenski must mend the 682 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 3: breach with Trump or resign. Koshiki details Zelenski's conduct in 683 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,280 Speaker 3: that fifty minute press conference leading up to that clash. 684 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 3: Everyone's seen the clash, but what led up to it 685 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 3: that fifteen minutes. If you've watched the entire thing, it 686 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 3: gives you a very different perspective. And he called presidents 687 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 3: Ski's behavior unnecessary and reckless and questioned why he'd be 688 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 3: so rude to Trump in front of the media when 689 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 3: Trump was offering him a really advantageous deal. He was 690 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 3: getting a great deal of what he wanted, and there 691 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 3: were even concessions made, you know, quite late in proceedings. 692 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 12: When you've last Mark Theesen and Lindsey Graham, by the way, 693 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 12: who's been on a fire excoriating Zelenski, he was the 694 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 12: most pro war US involvement senator that we have. That 695 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 12: is a signal that he did misstep here in the 696 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 12: not everybody in international media and even US media seeing 697 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 12: it that way. And this was a great piece pae 698 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 12: Mark Deson because he went through the entire forty nine 699 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 12: minutes and forty of those forty nine minutes where actually 700 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 12: Trump was very magnanimous, very cordial, and throughout that time 701 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 12: there are multiple points at which Zelenski was kind of 702 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:49,399 Speaker 12: golding him. 703 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,879 Speaker 3: When you watch the whole thing, I've got to say, 704 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 3: one of the more shocking things was how patient President 705 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 3: Trump was. 706 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 4: That's not his style. 707 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 3: He lets so much go to the keeper until at 708 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 3: at some point it was too much and he had 709 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 3: to step in and check Zelenski. But there was a 710 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 3: lot of disrespect, a lot of behavior that. 711 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 4: Trump would normally tolerate up until that point. 712 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 12: Absolutely, and that point was when he said. Zelenski said 713 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 12: that you know what, you will feel it too, because 714 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 12: you have an ocean. That's why you don't feel it. 715 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:22,399 Speaker 4: Now, you will feel it too. 716 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 12: And at that moment you can see Trump's entire demeanor change. 717 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 12: His face lit up, and he said, American people are 718 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 12: watching this. 719 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 4: You do not come here. 720 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 12: You're in no position to see that. 721 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and it was an astonishing comment to suggest that 722 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 3: America somehow should be fearful of a Russian invasion. Koshigeta, 723 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,839 Speaker 3: thank you so much for your time. Pleasure still to come, 724 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 3: Milania Trump at the Capitol. 725 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 4: Why is the First Lady becoming increasingly political? Alex Steyne 726 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 4: is unleased. 727 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 3: You're watching the Reader Penny Show, and now the world's 728 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 3: media is again engaging in hyperbole, shrieking in unison about 729 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 3: President Trump's attempts to engineer a peace still between Russia 730 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 3: and Ukraine. 731 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 4: But Donald Trump's approach, one he. 732 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 3: Articulated at length during the election campaign, is actually popular 733 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 3: with Americans who are sick of funding these endless wars. 734 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 3: Even CNN can't deny that reality. 735 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 11: Well, I think the easiest way we can kind of 736 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 11: just ask this is do Americans like the way that 737 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 11: Trump's handling his job in compared to how they felt 738 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 11: about Joe Biden? 739 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 4: So this is the net approval rating. 740 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 11: You look at Joe Biden back in twenty twenty four, 741 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 11: he was twenty two points underwater. 742 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 4: Holy cow, you look at Donald Trump. It's just a 743 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 4: different planet entirely. 744 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 10: I mean, the gulf between these two is wider than 745 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 10: the Gulf of America or Mexico, depending on which side 746 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 10: of the are you stand on He's at plus two. 747 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 4: So look at this. 748 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 6: Particular point, Americans are giving Donald Trump the benefit of 749 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:51,280 Speaker 6: the doubt. 750 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 11: He's doing considerably better than Joe Biden was. 751 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 4: Doing on the handling of the Russia Ukraine conflict. 752 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 3: Joining me now is comic and host of Primetime with 753 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 3: Alex Stein on Blaze TV. Alex Stein. Those numbers are 754 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 3: for all voters, but among Republican voters, amongst Trumps supporters, 755 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,800 Speaker 3: the figures are much higher. 756 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 4: And I've got to. 757 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 3: Say it's mighty nice to see CNN forced to. 758 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 4: Report all of that. 759 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,439 Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, it does feel nice to see them 760 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 7: have to actually, you know, show Donald Trump in a 761 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 7: positive light. But I still don't believe anything that's CNN 762 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 7: posts with numbers. I don't trust them whatsoever. But listen, 763 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 7: people are sick of it. There's people struggling in California 764 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 7: with the wildfires, there's people struggling in North Carolina, and 765 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,320 Speaker 7: there's people that are just struggling because of the inflation 766 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 7: that Biden caused us. So listen, we're sick of sending 767 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 7: billions of dollars to Ukraine where American citizens on both 768 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 7: sides of the aisle are struggling, So we're sick of 769 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 7: this warrant in his end right now. 770 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 3: Now, today we had the first Lady at the Capitol. 771 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 3: She attended a roundtable in support of the Take It 772 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 3: Down Act, is a bill that seeks to protect people 773 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 3: from the others sharing non consensual sexually explicit images as 774 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 3: well as deep fake pornography. 775 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 4: It's a relatively new issue. Let's hear from Millennia. 776 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 9: A fifteen year old, brave young woman, Aliston Spears, used 777 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 9: AI to create non consensual intimate images of her and 778 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 9: then spread the images across social media. They superimposed her 779 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 9: face into pornographic content without her consent, solely to humilate Alex. 780 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 3: I've always seen her as a massive asset and underutilized asset, 781 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 3: I would argue in the Trump cap she's clearly passionate 782 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 3: about this project. 783 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 7: Well, you know, I think Taylor Swift will agree with 784 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 7: Millennia that this is very important. And you know, this 785 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 7: is a serious issue that happens with not just well 786 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 7: known people on the Internet, but small unknown people. So 787 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 7: you know, you have no privacy, and I'm happy that 788 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 7: Milania is actually doing something to protect people's privacy. 789 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 3: And well, I wasn't even aware that these deep fakes 790 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 3: were being used, I don't know, to blackmail people, to 791 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 3: intimidate them, so where they just manufacture pornography that features 792 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 3: someone's face and then use that to terrorize them. So 793 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 3: it is frightening what they're able to do these days. 794 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 4: Alex. 795 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,720 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I mean with technology, you can make anything 796 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 7: look real. So it's a very scary dark future with 797 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 7: the technology that they can do with all of this 798 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 7: AI generated pornography. So this is necessary and I hope 799 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 7: that we can stop it. But Reata, I don't know 800 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,399 Speaker 7: if you can stop AI generated images like this. It's 801 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 7: just it's going to be difficult. 802 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 3: Now I've got some good news, more good news from 803 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:04,280 Speaker 3: the border. Illegal crossings have plummeted further. Latest data shows 804 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 3: that February was the lowest illegal crossings in history. That's 805 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 3: the clime they're from the White House, just eight thousand 806 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 3: to three hundred and twenty six. 807 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 4: Alex. 808 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 3: They said this couldn't be done. They said this was 809 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,280 Speaker 3: issues that were. 810 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 4: That America could not address. 811 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 3: The people were being persecuted in countries in South America 812 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 3: and they were fleeing for their life and nothing was 813 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,280 Speaker 3: going to stop the flow of illegal immigrants, and Donald 814 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 3: Trump within a month has got the numbers down to this. 815 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,399 Speaker 4: I mean, this is astonishing. 816 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,359 Speaker 7: Well, you know, and I'm not trying to lessen all 817 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 7: the great work that Trump administration has done, but really 818 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 7: and truly, they've just stopped people from coming here by 819 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,760 Speaker 7: not subsidizing their trips here by giving them free hotel 820 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 7: rooms and free flights around the country. So, yes, Donald 821 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 7: Trump is doing a great job. But all he had 822 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 7: to do was say stop coming, not getting a free 823 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,399 Speaker 7: handout anymore, and now they can't afford to come here 824 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 7: on their own. So Tom Holman's doing a great job. 825 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 7: President Trump is doing a great job. But this is 826 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 7: a simple problem that they could have solved four years ago. 827 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,839 Speaker 7: And listen, I understand there are people that are having 828 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 7: issues in countries, and there are, you know, real reasons 829 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 7: why a person would need to claim asylum, but we 830 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 7: have had an open border policy where people have been 831 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 7: able to manipulate it and just say that they're claiming 832 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,240 Speaker 7: asylum and come into our country and receive better social 833 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 7: security benefits or social services than even some of our 834 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 7: military veterans. So it's absolutely disgusting and the Trump administration 835 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 7: has put their foot down, and now people are less 836 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,240 Speaker 7: motivated to come here and illegally across our border. 837 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 3: Well, I always knew that this would happen, but the 838 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 3: speed at which it has happened has surprised me. 839 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 4: It has just been. 840 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 3: Amazing how quickly they have just pulled those pull factors 841 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 3: off the table. And guess what if you take the 842 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,800 Speaker 3: sugar off the table, the numbers stop coming. 843 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 4: Canada and Mexico, I'm very happy they've run out of time. 844 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,359 Speaker 4: The tariffs are right. 845 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 11: Is there any room left for Canada and Mexico to 846 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 11: make a deal before midnight? 847 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 6: And should we expect those Chinese tariffs the extra extra 848 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:12,320 Speaker 6: ten percent. 849 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 10: To take a room left or Mexico or for Canada. No, 850 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 10: the tariffs, you know, they're all set. They go into effect. 851 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 3: Tomorrow, alex We know Canada and Mexico understandably unhappy about 852 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 3: all this. 853 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,359 Speaker 4: What's the reaction being in. 854 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 3: The States because imports from those countries are going to 855 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 3: cost more? Is there any sort of a backlash to 856 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 3: these tariffs? 857 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 7: You know, I do think there is going to be 858 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,399 Speaker 7: a you know, a temporary backlash where you know, it's 859 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 7: going to cost us some money in the short term, 860 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,799 Speaker 7: but I think in the long term it's going to 861 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 7: be better for our country if we can actually, you know, 862 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 7: tax these people correctly, because we've been giving them basically 863 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 7: free money, and Mexico needs to play ball, and I 864 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 7: don't think they've done enough, and they haven't stepped up 865 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 7: to the plate enough and to satisfy Donald Trump. So 866 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 7: at this point, I think they're necessary, and yes, we 867 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 7: are going to feel the pain. But now you see 868 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,319 Speaker 7: car manufacturers saying they're gonna build cars, They're gonna build 869 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 7: Hondas in America. So in the end it will be 870 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 7: better for our country, even though it might hurt in. 871 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 11: The short term. 872 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, this is all about long term boosting manufacturing 873 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:19,280 Speaker 3: in America, boosting investment, and making it an even bigger 874 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 3: economic powerhouse. Now I have to ask you about the 875 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 3: oscars before you go. They were on overnight. What was 876 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 3: the highlight for you? There were so many highlights. 877 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, what a virtue signal fest. I do 878 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 7: have to say. I thought Conan O'Brien did a good job, 879 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,360 Speaker 7: and I really liked Adam Sandler, you know, wearing his 880 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 7: basketball shorts. That was the highlight of the night for me. 881 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 7: But you know, just the virtue signaling and the Academy. 882 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 7: But you know what, Reta, Do you remember how cool 883 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 7: the Academy Awards used to be. Everybody was watching it. 884 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,880 Speaker 7: I mean there was a Sunday night the whole world 885 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 7: watched it. Now nobody cares. So Hollywood has lost its luster. 886 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 7: And it's actually a sad sight to see because I 887 00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,040 Speaker 7: didn't see one of the movies nominated this year. You 888 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 7: need to make better stuff that you know people can relate. 889 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 3: To, and they need to actually remove all these diversity 890 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:15,320 Speaker 3: requirements for nominees and also, yeah, make better movies, pick 891 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 3: better options. 892 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 4: But I don't think you're alone. 893 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 3: I think many people have not seen or even heard 894 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:26,360 Speaker 3: of some of these nominations, and it's lost all relevance. 895 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:31,240 Speaker 3: It's no longer a night where you tune in eagerly 896 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 3: to see who's going to be the best actor and 897 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 3: the best actress. And I was surprised. I've got to say, though, 898 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 3: that there wasn't more political activism. There's a teeny tiny bit, 899 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,480 Speaker 3: but given that it's the first month of Trump's second term, 900 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 3: I was expecting to see speech after speech after speech 901 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 3: decrying the state of America and Maga and all things Trump. 902 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:54,239 Speaker 4: But I don't know. 903 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 3: Even Hollywood appears to have read the room, Alex Stein, 904 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 3: It's always a pleasure. Thank you so much for your 905 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 3: time tonight. 906 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,800 Speaker 7: Thank you for having me read. Always a pleasure. 907 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 4: And that's all the time we have tonight. 908 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 3: I'll see you tomorrow night at eleven, but don't go 909 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 3: anywhere near. 910 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:11,760 Speaker 4: Tonight is up next