1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the medicine shortage impacting more than four 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: hundred drugs. You might be affected here because there's a 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: widespread shortages shortage of medicines four hundred and twenty four. 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: In fact, medicines listed on the Therapeutic Goods Administration Medicine 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: Shortage Database, twenty of those critically low levels, including medicines 6 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: in short supply, ritalin which treats ADHD, antibiotic benzethine, penicillin 7 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: which helps with upper respiratory tract infections, fluo fluaxtine, which 8 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: is an antidepressant, ordine that's the morphine oral liquid used 9 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: to manage severe pain. And there are others obviously as 10 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: well in that four hundred and twenty four local level disruptions, 11 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: including of all things. Now, surely this can't be an 12 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: excuse anymore, but it seems to be the COVID nineteen 13 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: pandemic still impacting on supply. Eyes. Maybe it is Nicole Higgins, 14 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: Doctor Nicole Higgins, president of the Royal Australian College of 15 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: GPS on the line. Nicole, good morning, thank you for 16 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: your time. 17 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, good morning, Matthew. 18 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: It is very serious. I mean, if you need to 19 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: get some medication to keep your health up and going 20 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: or get rid of pain. You might find yourself in 21 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: a bit of strife. 22 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: He'll forgive me on as from an airport. But yeah, 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: look at most you know, it can be a bit 24 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 2: inconvenient to anything to being a bit dangerous, and we 25 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: need to make sure that. I mean, firstly, people keep 26 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 2: taking their medicines, but the government really starts to act 27 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 2: to make sure that Australians have the medications that they need. 28 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: The pandemic surely, you know two years on now. We 29 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: came out of it a couple of years ago and 30 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: we've still got these supply issues. 31 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a global supply chain issues. So it is 32 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: partly related to COVID, but it's around getting access to 33 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: the war ingredients, around the transport and the manufacture because 34 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: in Australia we import nearly all of our medicines and 35 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 2: the two biggest countries are from China and India, but 36 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: from all around the world. 37 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: Right, what do we need to do to fix us? 38 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: Can the government actually do anything? Then if it's out 39 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: of our. 40 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: Hands, there are some things that we can do, and 41 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: one is making sure that we do have medicines in Australia, 42 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: especially those essential ones, so that we have a national 43 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 2: stock style. But also there are options around looking at 44 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: manufacturing essential medications and really looking at how we negotiate 45 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: our medicines because really, in the scheme of the whole world, 46 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: Australia is a very small market, but it's our market. 47 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely so, all right, now, for people who can't 48 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: get hold of what they've been prescribed, what should they do? 49 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: So for most of the time, for most people and 50 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: most medications, there's no change, no difficulties, and those that 51 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: are affected, we do have alternatives and we can change 52 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: people over to a similar medication for a short time 53 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: until the others come in supply. Sometimes we do have 54 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: to change dosages as well, and your GP and your pharmacist. 55 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 2: We're pretty good at making sure that we have an 56 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: alternative for everyone. 57 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: Okay, stockpiling medication is that something we should look at 58 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: given stuff does expire, of course, But is that an 59 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: option for the government. 60 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: Yes, So we don't want people stop piling their medicines 61 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: at home. This is more about having the government just 62 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: having enough to make sure that we've got a continuity 63 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: of supply of medicines in Australia. 64 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: Okay, So all right now, if apart from going to 65 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: the GP and maybe getting a changeover, there's nothing much 66 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: else that people can do, is there, except make sure 67 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: they're remaining on track with what they're taking exactly. 68 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: So the message for people is just continue taking medications 69 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: as normal and have a chat with your pharmacist or 70 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: your GP. If you're unable to access it that month. 71 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: We're usually able to manage to source something for you, 72 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: whether it's the same medication from elsewhere or a different 73 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 2: brand or alternative. 74 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: Do doctors get any advice on this? I mean, would 75 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: you know in prescribing a drug to someone what the 76 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: stock levels are? 77 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it sort of feels like a bit of a 78 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: moving feast at the moment. And there is on the 79 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: TGA website that does have a list of medications and 80 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: they do send out alerts to gps and pharmacists when 81 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: something goes on to that list. But we've seen it 82 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 2: growing instead of shrinking, and this is something we do 83 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: need to get on top of. 84 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: Okay, And that's one for the government obviously to manage 85 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: and get on top of too. 86 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: It isn't they've got a very very busy job ahead 87 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: of it. 88 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: Indeed, thank you for your time, Nicole, appreciate it. Not 89 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: a problem, doctor Nicole Higgins. They a President, Royal Australian 90 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: College of GPS