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Speaker 1: Coming up on relatables was the bare minimum for the

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Speaker 2: Oh I like that as much as we aren't.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I actually like so.

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Speaker 3: The bare minimum for the modern woman is it's okay

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Speaker 3: to be the big experience.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes you are listening to relatables.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, everybody to another episode today. I am joined

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Speaker 1: on my right by my better looking, shorter mister Jake Craig.

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Speaker 3: That's started so good, And to my left is the

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Speaker 3: non car door opening for his girlfriend Oddie Clark.

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Speaker 1: Hey, don't expose me straight, I would like to point

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Speaker 1: out they don't.

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Speaker 5: We went out for dinner.

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Speaker 3: Oddie, my girlfriend. Sorry, yeah, Oddie, his girlfriend, me, my girlfriend,

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Speaker 3: and some other friends.

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Speaker 6: We were leaving, okay, I could see. I could see

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Speaker 6: them going to their car, and I could see that

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Speaker 6: he had forgotten, although he never does it, he had

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Speaker 6: forgotten to open her door for her. And then as

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Speaker 6: soon as I noticed she was going to have to

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Speaker 6: open it, it was too late.

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Speaker 2: I had to.

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Speaker 5: Called him out. That's how did to help you?

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Speaker 3: I did, Yeah, so you jump in and open it

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Speaker 3: through the other side, you fucking cheat?

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Speaker 1: Still did it?

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Speaker 5: Wow?

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Speaker 1: I do do it when I pick it up in

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Speaker 1: her house because it's like I remember, because as we're

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Speaker 1: walking out of her house.

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Speaker 5: You get out, Yeah, you see her card office her

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Speaker 5: card off.

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Speaker 3: First, I would like to point out that we went

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Speaker 3: and picked up a puppy, yes the other day, and.

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Speaker 2: We didn't take my car.

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Speaker 3: So my car, I drive a little tiny car do

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Speaker 3: I didn't want to drive a three hours on the

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Speaker 3: I have to go manually, and so it works in

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Speaker 3: my advantage because I always remember to open the door

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Speaker 3: for her.

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Speaker 2: Okay, But we used my girlfriend's.

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Speaker 3: Dad's car, and the first, like the morning we were leaving,

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Speaker 3: I had forgot. I was about to go open my

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Speaker 3: but I don't know how I did. I quickly locked

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Speaker 3: would so I went around.

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Speaker 5: I was like, just be patient, and.

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Speaker 1: So she didn't even know you forgot. I was about

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Speaker 1: to say, your key technique is kind of a cop out.

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Speaker 5: Is it though, because I don't forget no.

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Speaker 1: Because you have to do it anyway. You have to

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Speaker 3: Now, if I unlock my door, it opens all the doors.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, so I can open So I do still

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Speaker 3: go open her door first.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll give you that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how fun.

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Speaker 1: I'll get better. But today I wanted to start things

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Speaker 1: with what's the bare minimum for the modern man?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And I thought, because things are changing in society, the

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Speaker 1: standard for men is very different. Yeah, so I thought

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Speaker 3: I think that I think there's there is some some

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Speaker 2: I need I need more than the bare minimum.

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Speaker 3: All right, So we would like to give you, guys,

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Speaker 3: that's what you deserve.

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Speaker 1: And more exactly. Yeah, you want to start on me,

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Speaker 1: you go first. Okay, what's the bare minimum for the

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Speaker 1: modern man? Planning romantic dates? Often? Hey, I like that simple.

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Speaker 2: It's not hard.

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Speaker 1: It's not hard.

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Speaker 3: It's really okay if you really think about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: some guys are just like, oh, I don't like doing that.

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Speaker 3: I mean I think, who doesn't actually enjoy going out for.

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Speaker 2: A nice dinner?

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Speaker 1: And you're also not doing it for them?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not doing it for yourself for them, And

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Speaker 3: this is what you do TikTok nice nice restaurants wherever

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Speaker 2: Someone's made a.

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Speaker 3: Video about it online book two weeks, five minutes maximum.

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Speaker 1: And who doesn't like nice food?

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Speaker 5: I love the.

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Speaker 2: Act of actually going out, getting dressed.

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Speaker 5: Up together, looking good together, Yeah, gassing each other.

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Speaker 1: Exactly.

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Speaker 3: I've got a couple. I've got a few simple ones

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Speaker 3: and a few like a little bit more intricate. But

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go simple first, the bare minimum for the

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Speaker 2: Buy her flowers?

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Speaker 1: Love it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Simple?

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Speaker 1: And again I've got the similar one I said, grocery shopping.

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Speaker 1: Flowers are little gifts here and there randomly, just pick

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Speaker 5: And it's always like, yeah, but what's she gonna get me?

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Speaker 2: What's the guy version of flowers?

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Speaker 5: You know what? Fucking nothing? We don't need that ship.

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Speaker 1: That's a great point.

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Speaker 5: Honestly, we've done it before. We've asked everyone what's the

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Speaker 1: Just fair? I like that one. What's the bare minimum

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Speaker 1: for the modern man? Being an emotiontional outlet for your girl?

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Speaker 3: Oh, when she's venting, no logical solutions, all right, no

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Speaker 3: logical solutions, be there emotionally yes, be there emotionally bare

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Speaker 3: minimum for the modern man. Look at what face creams

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Speaker 3: and other ship she uses? All right, and buy her

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Speaker 3: a double to have in your bathroom.

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Speaker 5: Wow, pack atoletry's bag all the time.

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Speaker 1: That's so smart, that's all. Imagine you did that.

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Speaker 3: And then in your bathroom she's you're at her house,

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Speaker 3: maybe she's packing a bag to come to your house,

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Speaker 3: and you're and she's and she's packing up. You're like, well,

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Speaker 3: you don't need that. You don't need that, you don't

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Speaker 3: need that. She's like why, and she's like, I have

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Speaker 1: The only thing with that sometimes it's very very expensive

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Speaker 5: I'm talking just like face creams, like face wash.

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Speaker 1: I would even just say toothbrush and toothpaste.

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Speaker 2: Stuff like that. Yeah, just simple things. I wouldn't go. Look,

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking like if it's if it's over thirty bucks,

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Speaker 1: Really loves it, some of those creams get us like

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Speaker 2: It's crazy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you got that kills. Shit, I'm not paying I'm

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Speaker 1: What's the bare minimum for the modern man? Kind of

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Speaker 1: goes in hand with the last one. Being in touch

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, sometimes it's a little scary. I think the

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Speaker 3: biggest thing for me is the one thing that makes

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Speaker 2: I'm so I'm.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to word it improperly.

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Speaker 2: Oh you know what I mean, not being able to

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Speaker 1: I might even changed being in touch with your feelings

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the effort in trying to talk about

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Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, agreed. Bare minimum for the modern man, when.

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Speaker 5: At a restaurant pull her chair out for her is

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Speaker 5: that it that's it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just agree, gentlemen, be a gentleman and pulled the chair.

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Speaker 1: Agree. What is it when you're growing up as a dude.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what goes on in your mind. It's

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Speaker 1: doing something like that. Is it because I'm not confident?

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Speaker 1: I honestly think it's because I didn't know. But I

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Speaker 1: knew the thing of romantics, Like you pull the chair.

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Speaker 1: I knew the chair.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever been afraid to do that.

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Speaker 3: I think I just always forget. I've never I've never

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Speaker 3: I don't think I was never afraid. I was just

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Speaker 3: It's also a little bit awkward as well, because it's like,

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Speaker 3: so when you pull it out and she sits down,

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Speaker 5: Help her push it back in or do you just

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Speaker 5: let her screoch in on her own.

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Speaker 1: I've seen Russ from friends do it and he like

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Speaker 1: skeoches you back in and it looks so awkward. We

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Speaker 1: don't want to be like, what's the bare minimum for

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Speaker 1: the modern man? Being there for cuddle time?

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Speaker 2: Oh I like that as much as we aren't.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I actually like light cuddle so.

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Speaker 1: I'm hidden miss. Yeah, I'm sometimes there for it, sometimes not,

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Speaker 1: but being there for them because they like cut of time.

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Speaker 1: It's sort of the thing they grow funder when they're together. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's in those moments of cuddling, whereas where grow funder

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Speaker 1: when we're apart.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, agreed, I do agree with you.

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Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of though, Like I don't know,

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Speaker 3: just kind of you're a bit of a big teddy bear. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: just kind of liked, I don't know, just acting like

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Speaker 1: You should add on yours. The bare minimum for the

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Speaker 1: modern man, It's okay to be the little spoon.

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Speaker 2: It's okay to be.

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Speaker 5: The bare minimum for the modern woman. Is it's okay

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Speaker 5: to be the big spoon?

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Speaker 3: Sometimes bare minimum for the modern man. When you're done

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Speaker 3: your meal at the restaurant and she has a few

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Speaker 3: bites left because you're always going to finish before her, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you say you need the bathroom, but you actually go

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Speaker 3: pay the bill.

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Speaker 1: Yours are like just cheeky, little things that are really smart.

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Speaker 1: That's really good because normally they're like, oh, no, i'll

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Speaker 1: pay this, you want to split it, let's avoid the awkwardness.

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Speaker 3: And then like basically, when you come back from the

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Speaker 3: toilet she's done, you just like, hew, you're ready to go.

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Speaker 2: And then you get up to go and she goes,

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Speaker 2: what about the billing?

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Speaker 1: Sort of you know, that's one thing wrong with that me.

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Speaker 1: If she goes, what about the bill, I'll be like,

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Speaker 1: let's run. I just paid it, so she like, but

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Speaker 1: then I seem like a bad boy. True.

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Speaker 2: True, he also looks cheap.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, bad boy overrules. The cheapness was the bare

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty look, I'm pretty good at it.

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Speaker 5: I'm good at it.

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Speaker 2: The person I'm not good at it with is my sister.

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Speaker 3: I kind of want just making an effort of you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if they have no friends and come lucky, I'm

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Speaker 2: My last one is bare minimum for the modern man.

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Speaker 2: Just use your brain.

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Speaker 3: Use just in the situation you're in, just just use

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Speaker 2: Please.

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Speaker 1: It's there for a reason.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have it for a reason. You know right

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Speaker 3: You know what's disrespectful, you know what's going to make

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Speaker 1: That's funny. Jake's last one was kind of very responsible. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully, hopefully, try try That's all you can do. Okay?

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Speaker 1: Up next is girl next door or man eater? Jake,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you to clarify what is a

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Speaker 3: A man eater is someone that looks like they're gonna

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Speaker 2: All right, That's what a man eater is.

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Speaker 1: And the girl next door is a.

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Speaker 3: Girl next door is like I would say, you know

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Speaker 3: Cheer captain and I'm on the bleachers. In that song,

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Speaker 2: She is the man eater. The girl that she says

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Speaker 1: Describing and what we do on YouTube is get sending

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Speaker 1: Up next is the lemmas sent in by you guys,

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Speaker 1: and this one's title is Juicy Tea Alert. Last year

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Speaker 1: my brother's twenty first I got tipsy and ended up

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Speaker 1: So do I spill the tea and tell his girlfriend

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Speaker 1: But I can't help, but wonder if I'm the only

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Speaker 3: Okay, they're not together anymore, the guy and the girl.

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Speaker 3: Look, because they're not together. Depending on how it ended,

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 1: Should she just stay out of it?

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Speaker 1: world I look up to rely on and he's a

448
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,320
Speaker 1: shoulder to lean on other than there's no other person

449
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:10,119
Speaker 1: I like admire one dad, Yeah, as much as my dad,

450
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,720
Speaker 1: And I'd never have the I've never had the thought

451
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,320
Speaker 1: before of like, what's my life going to be like

452
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:16,280
Speaker 1: when my dad's not here?

453
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,000
Speaker 2: Do you think about that? Do you know?

454
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,719
Speaker 1: And I'm really really sad, And every time I think

455
00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,840
Speaker 1: about it even brings my eyes to a little bit

456
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,280
Speaker 1: of a water because I'm.

457
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,280
Speaker 2: Like, it's nearly a reality.

458
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was nearly a reality, and I'm not prepared

459
00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:30,760
Speaker 1: for it, and I don't think anyone ever can be

460
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,480
Speaker 1: prepared for it. And I was just like, fuck, like

461
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,080
Speaker 1: this is just like life, like everyone goes through it

462
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 1: and everyone gets through it, but like I don't want

463
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:38,600
Speaker 1: to face that anytime.

464
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,440
Speaker 2: Soon, honestly.

465
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 5: No.

466
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is inside. I feel like, can you even.

467
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 5: Even let's say, when you're older, do you reckon you're

468
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:47,640
Speaker 5: ever ready for it?

469
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,919
Speaker 1: That's what I thought. I was like, surely everyone's parents

470
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,119
Speaker 1: die and like when they're like thirty and then it happens.

471
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,119
Speaker 1: But I don't think you can prepare for it. Like

472
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 1: I'm twenty four almost and I'm just like twenty fourth

473
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 1: too early. Yeah, I think so, But it happens to

474
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 1: a lot of people. We've had friends who's lost their parents.

475
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 3: We've got yeah, we've got quite a few actually, think

476
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 3: like five friends, I think, so some of them have

477
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,639
Speaker 3: lost their parents and then some of them have parents

478
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 3: with it.

479
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 1: And I was just I was just thinking to myself.

480
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 1: I was like, there's no possible way I can ever

481
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,400
Speaker 1: be ready for this. No, And it made me really

482
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 1: sad to like what life would be like without this

483
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 1: man in my life?

484
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:24,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? Fuck man.

485
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 1: So he's my message would takeaway. Just tell the people

486
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 1: around you love them and make the most of them

487
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 1: while they're here, because they're not here forether you prostrate checked. Yeah, yeah,

488
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 1: that's a good thing for men, even though we don't

489
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,400
Speaker 1: have a lot of men listening get checked early. I'm

490
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 1: going to have to because it's genetic.

491
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 2: It's a genetic thing. Yeah, so when when will you

492
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 2: get checked?

493
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:41,679
Speaker 1: When you get checked at thirty? But I even might

494
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 1: get it earlier.

495
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 2: I could.

496
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 3: I could have sworn that it was up to like fifty.

497
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 2: Now really I could be wrong, but all the a.

498
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 1: Lot of things with cancer, if you get it early,

499
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 1: you can treat it. You can Yeah yeah, yeah, so yeah.

500
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,880
Speaker 3: Right, Well that's that's that's something you know about Audi

501
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 3: now this is Yeah, that's the thing. We kind of

502
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 3: I feel like we wanted to be some some sort

503
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 3: of personal on the podcast. Yeah, mine would be this is.

504
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 3: It's also very personal.

505
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 2: It's like but it's like I don't know, it's kind

506
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 2: of like part of I guess.

507
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 1: My life, and.

508
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 3: Like, because it also happened to me, I think it's

509
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,640
Speaker 3: like I should be allowed to talk about it. I'm

510
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 3: going to go in like a series of events almost

511
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 3: so Audi and I went traveling up. I think I

512
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 3: think I've told you you're gonna know what I'm saying

513
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 3: for the first bit, and I think I have told

514
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 3: you the second bit. So Audi and I went traveling

515
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 3: up the East Coast, Australia, and.

516
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 2: When we left, I had a girlfriend, and.

517
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 3: I was just like probably pretty young, pretty dumb, pretty immature,

518
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 3: and I just.

519
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 2: Wanted to go traveling with body and then and also

520
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 2: didn't like want to have a timeframe and when I'd

521
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 2: be home.

522
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 3: And so this is what I was telling her as well,

523
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 3: Like I was, I was being pretty fucking bad boyfriend

524
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 3: of the sense of like I'm leaving and I don't

525
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 3: know when I'm coming back. And COVID was happening pretty

526
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 3: heavily down here where we are, and we were running

527
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 3: away from it almost we were getting pretty lucky. And

528
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 3: so we were traveling and then I stayed together for

529
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 3: the first couple of weeks, and then we got to

530
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 3: a place up near Early Beach or no, up pretty

531
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 3: fun north somewhere, and she ended up giving me an

532
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 3: ultimatum like either either come home or we're fucking breaking up,

533
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 3: and so I was like, well, I don't want to come.

534
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 2: Home, and and so then for the first so.

535
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 3: We broke up, and like I think I was like,

536
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 3: I was like sad, but also like our relationship had slowly.

537
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 2: Been coming to an end. Like I look back at

538
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 2: it now and I.

539
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 3: Don't like I mean, I wouldn't say a cringe, but

540
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 3: I just look back at it now and I'm just

541
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 3: like we knew, one hundred percent. We knew, and it's

542
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 3: just funny to think how young and we were to

543
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 3: hold onto it and not realize.

544
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 2: But this is what you're doing.

545
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: You always do that, when you hold onto it for

546
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: as long as possible.

547
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 2: I suppose that's just what you do.

548
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, first love, first proper love.

549
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I definitely thought so.

550
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 3: Ah So then after a few weeks of us breaking up,

551
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 3: I don't even know, like I was sweet for a

552
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 3: while and then I can't say how it happened, but

553
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 3: I just it's like a fucking literal switch in my

554
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 3: brain flicked all of a sudden, missed her, and then

555
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 3: I have a feeling what happened was I think she

556
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 3: just messaged mey saying like hey, after a couple of weeks,

557
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 3: like hey, how.

558
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 2: Are you, and the like that's what I must I

559
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 2: guess must have flicked the switch.

560
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 1: I remember, like your demeanor is a complete shift, like

561
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: it was weird, happy and bubbly like traveling and then

562
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 1: you're like, oh fuck, And I could see it. I

563
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: saw the change in you.

564
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

565
00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 3: It was just I cannot even explain it, because so

566
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, I had this feeling of

567
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 3: missing her and thinking I fucked up. And then and

568
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 3: like randomly was like I'd rather be traveling, like I

569
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 3: don't know, I'd rather fucking her, like fly up, I

570
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 3: don't know.

571
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 2: It was dumb.

572
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 3: And then and then so I called my step mom

573
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 3: and I was talking to her about it because I've

574
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 3: grown up with divorced parents, so I've had this skew

575
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 3: if view on it for the longest time, and like

576
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 3: if you're marriage and all that, and I thought that

577
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 3: I didn't want to be with anyone forever. I had

578
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 3: that whole thought process that we get dilemmas all the

579
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 3: time of like, oh, do I need to break up

580
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,239
Speaker 3: with the person I'm with now because it doesn't really

581
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 3: work out when you're young in twenty and then do

582
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 3: I need to be alone for a while and grow

583
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 3: and then get in a relationship when I'm later in

584
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 3: my twenties and and then that's going to work out

585
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 3: because I have more life experience, like that's what that's

586
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 3: what my mindset was.

587
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 2: And so then I think she like I was on

588
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 2: the phone, my step mom was crying, and.

589
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 3: She was just like, hey, you just got to do

590
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 3: what you fucking want to do, Like if you want

591
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 3: to get back together, whether it just say you want

592
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 3: to get back together, what do whatever you want to do.

593
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 2: She was like, she was good about it, and so.

594
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 3: Then I I think, Okay, I told my girlfriend I

595
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 3: want to get back together. She was like, oh, I

596
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 3: don't know my ex girlfriend. So I told my ex

597
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 3: girlfriend I will get back and she's like, oh, I don't know.

598
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 3: And I was like, well, I'll come home and I

599
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 3: don't want to see you. So I had just said

600
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 3: to ODDI don't want to go home, which sucked. And

601
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 3: then Addie was fucking so good about.

602
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 2: It, and then went home, like drove back down, went home.

603
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 2: And then when I.

604
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 3: Got home, I told her I was home and she

605
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 3: was like, oh, I'm going through COVID. She was staying

606
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 3: at a family friend's place that she'd known since she

607
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 3: was like born and never thought of him as a threat,

608
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 3: by the way, and so she goes, okay, like cool, whatever,

609
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 3: and she went and she was staying there for the week.

610
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 3: So I got home for a full week I didn't

611
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 3: see her, and then she finally came home and we

612
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 3: saw each other blah blah blah blah, hung out and

613
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 3: then in the end, like it was, she just was

614
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 3: like she just didn't want to and so I ended

615
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 3: up being like really heartbreaking from it from the breakup.

616
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 3: And then I think we were home for a while

617
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 3: just fucking. It was maybe a month had maybe a

618
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 3: month after I was home or something like that, and

619
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 3: I do remember this is what happened. Someone had messaged

620
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 3: me on Instagram as in like a kind of like

621
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 3: it wasn't her, it was just like a girl he

622
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 3: had messed with Instagram, and I was messaging you about

623
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 3: it and I said, I'm just not sure if I

624
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 3: want to go through with anything yet out of respect

625
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 3: for X person, my ex girlfriend. And then Audie goes

626
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 3: I think, I don't know if you said this, but

627
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 3: he was kind of like, nah, fucked that bitch.

628
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: I got something to tell you.

629
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: I remember that. He was like, oh no, I don't remember.

630
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 5: He was like, she's been sleeping this guy from Sydney,

631
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 5: and I was like.

632
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 7: Oh no, I was so because I found out they

633
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 7: found out, and I didn't tell you because I knew

634
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 7: would break her. And then this girl, like this pretty girl,

635
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 7: like I said, she wanted to hang out with you,

636
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 7: and You're like, oh, I can't do it out of respect.

637
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 3: And then I was like that, fuck yeah, I'm telling him.

638
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 2: And so then all he told me, you know, I

639
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 2: was made it worse. I was like heartbroken, heartbroken.

640
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 5: I needed to hear it.

641
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: Obviously.

642
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 3: I was like I was like heartbroken, heartbroken, and so

643
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 3: and then after it was like that was really I

644
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 3: would say, that's like the most heartbroken I've bin.

645
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 2: I remember telling.

646
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 3: My parents and like cause I just knew that there

647
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 3: was no way I was going to be able to

648
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 3: like hide how fucking depressed I felt. And so I

649
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 3: remember telling my parents what happened. That was so they knew,

650
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 3: and then it was just kind of like they were

651
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 3: just like, yeah, fuck, it is what it is, Like

652
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 3: they're supportive, and I was just like, you're actually is

653
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 3: what it is.

654
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: And so I just ended up going about my days

655
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: or whatever, and I.

656
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 3: Just and it was just like fucking I just would

657
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 3: like it's the most heart wrenching thing. And then so

658
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 3: A few months went by and we got up to

659
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 3: Christmas and I was still like getting over it. Ah,

660
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 3: I definitely there's nowhere near over her. This is twenty

661
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: twenty war and so twenty twenty one.

662
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: And then.

663
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 3: I found out that she started dating the guy and

664
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 3: I was like, holy shit. I was like, how did

665
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 3: you move on so quick? I was like, this is crazy.

666
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 3: I was like in my head, I was like, you

667
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 3: know what, fuck, I hope that does not.

668
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: Work out for you.

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Speaker 5: I was like, oh, it doesn't work out. I was like,

670
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 5: you've moved on too quick. I doesn't work out for you.

671
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 5: Blah blah blah.

672
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 3: So basically I was like heartbroken neck. I couldn't sleep

673
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 3: for the longest time because the heartbroken the first time.

674
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 3: And then I was starting to get good and then

675
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 3: I find out she starts dating this guy again. I

676
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 3: went through a few weeks of just shitty sleep. I

677
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 3: was sleeping shit, heartbroken.

678
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 2: And then.

679
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: My sister came to visit Australia for Christmas. And this

680
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 3: is the part that I was unsure about telling on

681
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 3: the podcast. My mom, for like a lot of my life,

682
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 3: has struggled with addiction, and when my sister came for

683
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: she came from Canada. When she came, she came out

684
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 3: and then just I remember, like, so it was still

685
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 3: kind of fresh heartbreak. It's for the second round of

686
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 3: it finding out a daintly guy. And then my sister

687
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 3: comes in. Like the day after my sister comes, she

688
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 3: comes out to where I was stat we're vothing at

689
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 3: my parents' house. She comes into my room, she was like,

690
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 3: have you spoken to Mum?

691
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 5: And I was like what.

692
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 3: I was like no, She's like, oh, I was messaging

693
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 3: her She's and she's like fucking going on about how

694
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 3: she misses us, and then she's so sorry for everything

695
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,959
Speaker 3: she's done to us, and I was like what. And

696
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 3: then she goes And then I tried to call her

697
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 3: and tell everything's all good, but she won't answer. She

698
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,959
Speaker 3: won't reply, and Johanna said that in the message, she

699
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 3: implied like she's going to miss us, and I was

700
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 3: like what. And so Johanna thinks that she's going to

701
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 3: fucking kill herself m and so I started freaking out.

702
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 3: And for the longest time, I've had like a bit

703
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 3: of a broken relationship with her because I just have

704
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 3: like struggled to forgive, struggled to forget and like I

705
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,959
Speaker 3: do sometimes like I'm sure anyone that has the same thing.

706
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 2: He's like knows what I mean by like you'd love him.

707
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 3: Because you love him, but sometimes you're just like why

708
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 3: the fuck can you not get it under control? But

709
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 3: I remember trying to get a hold of my mom

710
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 3: and I was like fucking tried to call on her

711
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 3: and call on her and call on her Facebook and shit,

712
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 3: and she finally answered. She's like crying on the phone,

713
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 3: and I just remember being like I genuinely, genuinely was like,

714
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 3: oh fuck, like my Mom's gonna kill herself because she's

715
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 3: just like relapsed and just can't handle it. And so

716
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 3: then eventually like we got a hold of my aunt

717
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 3: he that lives in the same town. She went over

718
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 3: there and she found her and like my Mom's still alive,

719
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 3: like she's all good. Yeah, But like I just fucking

720
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 3: remembered that mixed with the heartbreak. I remember it breaking

721
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 3: me and Joanna, my older sister. She was kind of

722
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 3: all good after that, but I remember like I like

723
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 3: was walking around, I was like having like heart palpitations,

724
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 3: and I went and I sat down like in this

725
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 3: weird like part of my parents' yard like hidden, and

726
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 3: I just like fucking cried for like ten minutes, and

727
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 3: I was like, what is going on? And then my

728
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 3: dad eventually came around. He was like, fuck, are you okay?

729
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 3: And I just was like I do. I don't know

730
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 3: how to take this a it was like the weird

731
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 3: I just couldn't ah. And then I don't even know.

732
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 2: It's just like I don't know. I went to therapy

733
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: once and just like haven't felt the need to go back.

734
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: But that was yearsiger now, But I don't know.

735
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 3: I just think like probably a good thing to air

736
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 3: out and people understand that, you know.

737
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: I guess we have problems too, Yeah, we do.

738
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: We're not perfect by any means.

739
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, just fucking yeah.

740
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 3: I think the hard I think giving advice on the

741
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 3: hard times is like we've been through them too.

742
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 2: I guess.

743
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone has their own stories. What we could open

744
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: up about ours yours? Yeah, that's that's a lot, and

745
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: it's just a role on snowball effect kind of thing.

746
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: Can't Yeah, so what Yeah, it just made it was

747
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: the heartbreak and then that and I was it's like holy, it's.

748
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: Like that thing. It's always one thing after another when

749
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: it rains a pause.

750
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.

751
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, out of the fucking Yeah, you're right, so sorry

752
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 3: if that was like a boring story, I.

753
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: Wasn't boring at all, boring, But I just I think

754
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: it's struggle.

755
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: I think it's.

756
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: Admirable how you opened up, because I know that's a

757
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: hard thing for a dude, don't you. Yeah, especially the

758
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: second part.

759
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: For the longest time.

760
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, the breakup thing, I don't care if that's out there,

761
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 3: like the other thing is just it's just like I

762
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: was a bit if you about.

763
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: Airing out family drama, but I don't know. I think

764
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 2: it's just I guess.

765
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: Everyone has it.

766
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: That's the it's part of my life.

767
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: Everyone has it. And I think the more you talk

768
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: about it and say that you're okay now and your

769
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: mom's okay.

770
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, And like I guess if I don't want

771
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 3: anyone to think, like fuck I hate Jake's mum without

772
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: knowing her, like like I love my mom.

773
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like I do.

774
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 2: I love my mom. And I'm going to Canada and

775
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: all that, and in I've been. I've been to Canada

776
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: after that, and I'm going again obviously in June this year.

777
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: And I don't know.

778
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 3: I think it's just like I guess, I guess anyone

779
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 3: else that does deal with something like that, it'd be

780
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 3: interesting to know how they deal with it. Actually, to

781
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 3: be honest with you, I assume there's some people out

782
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 3: there that have had parents with struggle. And I always

783
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 3: am really with the work that my sister does. I

784
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 3: always so with the work that my sister does. You

785
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 3: hear about a lot of bat you with families, and

786
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 3: now I am like, I'm very like, I understand that

787
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 3: stuff that I've been through is hurtful, but I also

788
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: have like this mad like gratefulness after hearing some stuff,

789
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 3: like I've always had a roof of a mad always

790
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 3: had clothes, never been hungry, I've always felt love for

791
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 3: my family. Like the only hurt that I feel is

792
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 3: that my mum struggles with these addictions. And just like

793
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 3: the love for us kids doesn't fix the addiction. But

794
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 3: then you come to feel like an addiction is a disease.

795
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 3: And but like I've never like, I've never been hit.

796
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: I've always been yeah, like I've had a great upbringing.

797
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: Were aged problems has the same magnitude to each person. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

798
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: I think it's Also, it's good to normalize. Like, like

799
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: you said, we're not perfect. Everyone has. It's okay to

800
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: be hurt and it's good to talk about it. Yeah,

801
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: it's like it's just good to get it out of

802
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 1: your system. It's something so beautiful and when humans talk

803
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: and you feel better, it's like a weight lifted off

804
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: your heart, your chest, everything going on. But yeah, you

805
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,439
Speaker 1: wanna leave it on that yeah as well.

806
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 2: Right, Oh guys, thanks for listening.

807
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