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Speaker 1: Coming up on Relatables.

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Speaker 2: Just a few days ago, we finally finally got around

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Speaker 2: to recording the music video for Translucent.

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Speaker 3: Words Left Unspoken, Feelings left dunset. I'm drowning in emotions,

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Speaker 3: trapped in my own head.

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Speaker 1: When you look.

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Speaker 4: At me, I who you look right through me? Are

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Speaker 4: you women? Sorry? It turned me apart. When I see

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Speaker 4: you with her, I see you happy?

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Speaker 3: But did you have to go and stabbed me through

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Speaker 3: the heart?

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Speaker 1: Relatable Party.

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Speaker 2: The Relatables podcast is hosted by myself, Jacob Craig aka

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Speaker 2: an artist oh An Aunty Clark aka a lose artist,

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Speaker 2: A losing artist. Guys, so today is an exciting day.

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Speaker 2: We would like to take a bit of accountability first,

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Speaker 2: and I would like to point out that it is

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Speaker 2: currently it's December fourth, and I'm pretty sure Addie and

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Speaker 2: I if you guys have been listening for at least

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Speaker 2: nine months?

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Speaker 1: Was it nine months?

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Speaker 2: It's been a while. A long time ago, Addie challenged

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Speaker 2: me to make a song with him against each other.

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Speaker 2: We both made a song. We pro We documented the process.

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Speaker 2: It's a vlog on Patreon that go sign up if

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Speaker 2: you want to watch that vlog.

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Speaker 1: It's a while back we.

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Speaker 2: Both went and made a song individually with Toby Wells.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Toby Wells. I think one reason not

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Speaker 1: making excuses I was a little bit disheartened with we

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Speaker 1: didn't follow up on what we're about to say is

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Speaker 1: those episodes were terribly performing day now, they didn't do

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Speaker 1: very I see that shit, And maybe maybe that's another

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Speaker 1: thing where I shouldn't look at the statistics. Oh okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe I thought it was a really good episode.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's more about Yeah, I think if you

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Speaker 2: if you love an episode, fuck it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So we made songs.

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Speaker 2: We made it this whole thing of like weave a

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Speaker 2: snippet and then we did like ODDI did his full song,

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Speaker 2: and then we did a sniff in of mine, and

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Speaker 2: then we did that my full song, and then we

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Speaker 2: released them on Spotify and you can go listen to them.

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Speaker 2: And then we said, whoever gets the most streams in

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Speaker 2: a month will make a music video.

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Speaker 1: Did we say one month or nine months?

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, you know we're thinking about it. Actually a

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Speaker 2: one in a night, they're not far off or you're

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Speaker 2: missing is a little curve on the top of the

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Speaker 1: Maybe we said ten months, like the zero after, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna confused and we're actually there.

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Speaker 2: So you guys kept asking, and we kept thinking, we

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Speaker 2: said nine months. That's why we were ignoring you guys.

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Speaker 1: We were like, we said nine months.

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Speaker 2: But we would like to just Audie, can we please

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Speaker 2: hear a little bit of your song?

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Speaker 1: You can caught in my thoughts.

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Speaker 2: But Audick, what do you want me to just play

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Speaker 2: from the start the minute? What do you want just

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Speaker 2: a little bit of the start?

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Speaker 1: Thinking all the time lost him my mind echoes from

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Speaker 1: the plastic game to fun. Oh yeah, feeling like gone,

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Speaker 1: being left behind card I my thoughts I started before.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, such inferences I can't find, never believe in this.

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Speaker 6: It's made of my mind time, my thoughts lost him by.

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Speaker 2: If you ask me, how the fuck did I lose

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Speaker 2: a bang up? That is ordered my thoughts by Ottie Clark. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I just thought too.

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Speaker 1: I just came to me. This all stems from remember

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Speaker 1: ages ago. So me and Jacob been through Jake's first parents'

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Speaker 2: No, no, we went Jake's first my parents' place right

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Speaker 2: where I was living there. Yeah, their house and we

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Speaker 2: set up in a corner. It was like zero design.

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Speaker 2: It was just like what we had. And then we

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Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes Otti's car was parked in here while we

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Speaker 1: But do you remember in that setup, I challenged you

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Speaker 1: We went and made a song on garage band. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we challenged each other and you won that one as well.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. See you mind have a little bit

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Speaker 2: I would like to point out that when I was

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Speaker 2: couple of the times when when I was when I

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Speaker 2: was hitting some of them notes, he was like, mate,

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Speaker 2: he was like, let's go, And I was like, but

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Speaker 2: you didn't say that he did you?

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Speaker 1: Reflecting on my experience in the studio. I was struggling.

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Speaker 2: I had a fucking blast. Is it tone deaf or

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Speaker 2: like I don't know when to start singing like on cue?

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe you have poor timing? But also tone deaf

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Speaker 2: is a thing. Yeah, but I've got all that. So

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Speaker 2: so that was called My Thoughts by Ottie Clark, right,

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Speaker 2: and I have a feeling.

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Speaker 1: So we've explained what his song's about.

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Speaker 2: It's easy to call my thoughts like, oh, he's like overthink,

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Speaker 2: he's calling his thoughts and he's just slow down and

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Speaker 2: needs to, you know, let himself breathe. And then mine

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Speaker 2: was called translucent by Jake Craig. And should we play

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Speaker 2: a bit and then I'll give a quick rundown of

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Speaker 2: what it was.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, let's do it asked the memories of what we

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Speaker 7: used to be.

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Speaker 1: Everywhere I turn, you're last.

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Speaker 3: See your laughter. That goes hunting me and I try

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Speaker 3: to move on. It doesn't feel right when you look

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Speaker 1: Do you look through me?

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Speaker 4: Are you even sorry? It turns me apart When I

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Speaker 4: see you with her, I see you have But did

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Speaker 4: you have to go and stab me through the heart?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Ah ah? So that is translucent by yours truly I

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Speaker 1: do see why you want Yours is a lot smoother.

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Speaker 2: It's yeah, I went definitely for the guy the people

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Speaker 2: that Toby and I have listened to a bit of

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, interesting.

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Speaker 2: And so mine was about I actually wrote mine the

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Speaker 2: day before we went I went to record it, and

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Speaker 2: mine was about losing your best friend to.

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Speaker 1: A girlfriend, even though I also have a girlfriend. And

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Speaker 1: that one, yeah you won. And so what are the

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Speaker 1: streams at? The streams are at Call to my Thoughts

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Speaker 1: by Audie Clark is five thousand and sixty six, Really

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Speaker 1: you pumped me? But translution by Jake Craig is eight

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Speaker 2: Fucking what I thought, Harry the other day, I had

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Speaker 2: three thousand listens on it.

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Speaker 1: Well, what happens in our favor is because people go

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Speaker 1: back and listen to that episode, yeah, and then they

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Speaker 2: And so basically when we knew for a long time

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Speaker 2: so just a few days go, we finally finally got

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Speaker 2: and we would like to I don't want to put

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Speaker 2: the audio listeners through a whole three minutes of me

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Speaker 2: is pretty funny. But if you we're gonna have a

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Speaker 2: link in the description of this video to go. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna post it on our YouTube, the full music video

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Speaker 2: of Translucent, And yeah, we would just like everyone to know.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations man, And yeah, I'm going to put it to

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Speaker 1: the people. And you, Okay, just reminiscing in all this greatness.

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Speaker 1: And I was thinking about myself in the studio. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you were doing the same, should we? I actually

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Speaker 1: thoroughly enjoyed it same I sucked. That feels like you're

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Speaker 1: If people want it, should I actually like the writing.

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Speaker 1: But that was kind of my like part that I'm

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Speaker 1: you're not your You're you suck at what's important. I

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Speaker 1: could be one of those ghostwriters facts. Yeah. But should

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fucking oes we should.

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Speaker 1: Should we write a song together and go you'll probably

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Speaker 1: A thousand, a thousand likes?

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Speaker 2: Yeah you reckon?

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Speaker 1: If the music video gets a thousand likes, me and

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Speaker 1: Jake will do a song together, and in the future

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Speaker 1: there could be an album. Yeah, this could be a

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Speaker 2: What would be quickly before we before we move on?

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Speaker 1: What do you reckon? We if we were a duo? Right?

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Speaker 1: What do we call ourselves? Relatables? Oh that's a good point.

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Speaker 2: I like that name that you mean, like our performing name? Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: think about it. Like I've been listening to a lot

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Speaker 2: big twisting in the funk twisting and the funk nasty.

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Speaker 2: We need to think of a name, or do we

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Speaker 2: want the badies to name us? Oh, that's a good point.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking like Audie Clark and.

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Speaker 1: Clark and his Beaches. To be fair, you're probably more

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Speaker 1: a front man on the top of our head, I'm thinking, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're like Dingle. What do you used to call me?

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Speaker 1: What dingland beany?

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Speaker 2: What did we what was some of the things we

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Speaker 2: wanted to call ourselves before we chose relatables. I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't even remember. It was that long ago. I

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Speaker 1: don't think we landed on anything. Nah, I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think we had any name. There was no

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Speaker 1: front runner. No, there wasn't We didn't have anything, and

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Speaker 1: then you came up with relatables we could be We

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Speaker 1: started with undtables. True. I feel like that's not not

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Speaker 1: What about like, yeah, maybe we'll put it to the

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Speaker 1: I think you know.

440
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Speaker 2: It's a point because like we can, I can look

441
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 2: at you and be like, oh, I don't I obviously

442
00:20:58,800 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 2: don't think it went to your head and I don't

443
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,919
Speaker 2: and went to my head. But I don't think the

444
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 2: best person to ask could be I guess Joanna, Yeah,

445
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 2: someone who's closed she was there from the start, and yeah,

446
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 2: I mean fuck, I don't think. I like, I feel

447
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,440
Speaker 2: like my family would call me up if I had been.

448
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 8: I think from a friend's perspective, is that like that

449
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 8: would have looked at that naively without really knowing you

450
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 8: that well, Like, as you say, you don't see your

451
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,639
Speaker 8: friends that often, and they would have just seen your

452
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,679
Speaker 8: followers grown and naturally would that No, might have just

453
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 8: been like, oh, these guys just think the top shit. Now,

454
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:33,679
Speaker 8: that's how sort of boys operating that tall poppy syndrome mentality.

455
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 2: But really like they're not even giving you a chance

456
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,879
Speaker 2: to It's also to put yourself out there online, you

457
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 2: have to come across as a little bit full of yourself,

458
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,199
Speaker 2: even if you completely aren't. Just by posting yourself like,

459
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,400
Speaker 2: you come across as like all these guy thinks he's

460
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 2: a ship no matter what you do. Even for girls,

461
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,119
Speaker 2: this girl thinks she's a shit. I think if you

462
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,199
Speaker 2: fucking post a podcast, whether or not you're doing it

463
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 2: because you just want to do it as a hobby

464
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 2: or you do want it to be a job one day,

465
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Speaker 2: I think you have to have some sort of level

466
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 2: of narcissism to think like people will won't want to

467
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 2: hear what I have to say. And I don't think

468
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 2: it's an unhealthy amount. I think there's like a healthy

469
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 2: amounts of I guess narcissism is a strong word. It's

470
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,160
Speaker 2: more like you kind of need to look a lot. Yeah,

471
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 2: you've got to have some sort of an ego to

472
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 2: be like, we're going to start a podcast. We're doing

473
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 2: it because you know, if it was a job one day,

474
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 2: that would be the coolest thing ever.

475
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: But also it's.

476
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 2: Like we think that we have conversations that are good

477
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 2: enough that people will listen to and take something away

478
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 2: from it.

479
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 1: I remember when we started, like we said we wanted

480
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 1: to make it work, but we never once said like

481
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Speaker 1: we want this to be a full time job work.

482
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Speaker 8: Mean, I'm the same and back on what you were

483
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,199
Speaker 8: saying in terms of like egos, like I feel like

484
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Speaker 8: to be a healthy human you've got to have a

485
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 8: level of ego about you because there's that balance between

486
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 8: like being ego centric where you think you're better than

487
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 8: everyone else, but then at least knowing that you're capable

488
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,679
Speaker 8: of doing something, knowing that you're good enough to share

489
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 8: the things that you believe in because same as me,

490
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 8: it's like I'm putting some stuff on my social media,

491
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 8: which is like can be polarized and it can make

492
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Speaker 8: it look like I'm an expert when I don't have.

493
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Speaker 2: Any tangible certificates or whatever it is.

494
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Speaker 8: But like I myself know that I'm smart enough, full

495
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,239
Speaker 8: of enough knowledge, got a bit of experience, whatever that

496
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 8: people will want to hear what I've got to say.

497
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 8: So it's like you've got to have a level of

498
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 8: ego to start anything online. By the psych you can't

499
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 8: deflate it to the point where you think you're better

500
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Speaker 8: than you actually are.

501
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: And that's like that balance with.

502
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Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think you also have to

503
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 2: have an ego to do anything. Yeah, I like to

504
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 2: succeeded anything to you know, you've got to fuck let's

505
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 2: say you go start a company. You have to have

506
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 2: an ego where you believe in yourself enough to get

507
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 2: clients and like do it like that you're gonna make

508
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 2: money doing said thing. There's an ego and everything. I

509
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 2: guess it's just like the way we chose to do it.

510
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 2: I think also though, while like we resonated with Harry,

511
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 2: and why we're in the position we are now and

512
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 2: why Harry's in the position here is now.

513
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Speaker 1: Is because, like I said at the start, we really

514
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 1: try to hide a little bit of a nice message

515
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: in every single podcast. And the same thing with like

516
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: Harry's brand, Like it's so easy to just like be

517
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: consumed by consumerism and make like secreties that just like

518
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 1: anyone would buy. But all Harry's clothes have a really

519
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: good meaning and purpose behind them. And I don't know

520
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: if it is this merit Like when you do drops,

521
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: you of ever think like even if I don't sell out,

522
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: like I might have impacted some people. Well that's what

523
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 1: I try and aim for.

524
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Speaker 8: Like I think the drops where I've left feeling a

525
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 8: bit empty, of the ones where it's like I know

526
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 8: there was never really intention behind that.

527
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 1: There's no message, And there's times.

528
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 8: Where it's like I feel so fulfilled before the drops

529
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 8: even happened, because it's like I know that I've connected

530
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 8: with people, people have messing me whatever, But then that's

531
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Speaker 8: sort of what I want to central I want to

532
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 8: steer away from the clothing inside of the brand and

533
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 8: be able to centralize my brand as whole as that

534
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 8: and just being able to feel like I actually am

535
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 8: making a bit of an impact. And I think that's

536
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 8: where like what you're saying with you guys, just you

537
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 8: feel to in a nice mess in all of yous

538
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,640
Speaker 8: and my brain is very like open to that type

539
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 8: of content, So listen to you. I sort of filtered

540
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 8: through the bullshit like clicking stuff like as much as

541
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 8: that makes me laugh, and I like it and I

542
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 8: watch all of it, but like my takeaway was always that,

543
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 8: like I always got the takeaway of like the positive

544
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 8: stuff because that's what I was looking for, That's what

545
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 8: I searched for, That's what I wanted. But then again,

546
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 8: it's like some people see it. Some people don't see

547
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 8: it as well as I may, because that's not what they're.

548
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 2: Here to come for. Yeah, I know some people come

549
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 2: for maybe they saw us on TikTok and they think

550
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 2: we're all entertaining and then they come on here and

551
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: you never know, like they might come on in a

552
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 2: Monday or a Wednesday episode and we don't do a

553
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 2: single entertaining thing and we just kind of have a chat,

554
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 2: and they're probably just like, what are these boring fuckers doing?

555
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 2: What the fuck are this is false advertising?

556
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: Fucking do you know?

557
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 3: How?

558
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 1: Like we're ninety percent most people listening right now are female, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

559
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: And like Harry's one of.

560
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 2: The nine percent of the male audience we have.

561
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: How do you think, Like I think a lot of

562
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: girls listening would want their partners or men in their

563
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: life to look for those good messages or that content

564
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: where there is a bit of substance to take away from,

565
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: And like, how do you find a guy that is

566
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: Harry All at ten percent? Not putting it on a pedestal,

567
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: but like within that ten percent of like who's open

568
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: mind and willing to learn rather than the people who

569
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: are just consuming gambling and horse racing and footy podcasts

570
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: from the outside looking.

571
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Speaker 8: And I think the easiest way is to like look

572
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 8: at the type of people they spend their time with, because,

573
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 8: as cliches is, but the people you spend your time

574
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 8: with is who you sort of become. So if you're

575
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 8: if you're looking for a man and he's spending the

576
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 8: times with guys who are doing a lot of that,

577
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,959
Speaker 8: but he's trying to tell you that he's not like that.

578
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 8: More often than not, he probably is, But in terms

579
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 8: of specifics, it's a cliche setting like I'm not like

580
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 8: other guys. Yeah, yeah, why did you start? Like I

581
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 8: used trying to probably like I've somewhat asked you off camera,

582
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 8: but not a whole lot like I used trying to

583
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 8: target more guys consciously, like what is you really like?

584
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 1: Not what what made you want to start it?

585
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 8: Though, because it is very much about like that positivity,

586
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 8: so like, oh, you have like a driving thing that

587
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 8: makes you want to continue to do that or is it?

588
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 1: The start was initially to normalize men being able to

589
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: talk about their feelings, and it shifted to more voice

590
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 1: and normalizing it's a simple concept treating women equally.

591
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 2: But I think, yeah, I reckon. What happened was like

592
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 2: I remember ODDI saying I wanted to start the podcast.

593
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: It was a pretty classic like bro podcast, and we

594
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 2: might have even been at the gym, and I I

595
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 2: can't say I've ever thought of starting one. A couple

596
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: of year years before we confused. Before we started that,

597
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: I actually was keen to kind of like I wanted

598
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,239
Speaker 2: to make YouTube videos and I had a girlfriend at

599
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 2: the time that was like and I started to make

600
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 2: make some videos and she was like, you've changed, and

601
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, I'll stop throwing stop.

602
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I'm changing as a person. Yes, I

603
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: have grown, and.

604
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, then I stopped. And it's just like one

605
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 2: of those things like I never would have done it without,

606
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: you know, doing it.

607
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 1: With there's a sense of security doing it with a friend.

608
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

609
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's why I love doing it with you guys. Yeah,

610
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 8: beyond anything. It's like having fun security blanket you can't

611
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 8: lose in that sense as well.

612
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 1: And it's yeah, but yeah, it's funny, like I reckon

613
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: we started it off.

614
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 2: I remember, I just I even remember like the first

615
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: episode like we did say, like I think we spoke

616
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: about it and when Otti had the idea, he was

617
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: like he was like, you know, I think we we

618
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 2: actually talk about kind of real shit instead of just girls.

619
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 2: You know, we talk about actually something that we would

620
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: like to see in our future. You know, what are

621
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: we going to do to like when we were when

622
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 2: we when we traveled together. I very actually only like

623
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: a month ago, got rid of this in my notes.

624
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,719
Speaker 2: By the way, we literally had like I think, if

625
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 2: we didn't do this audio and I, we're going to

626
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 2: start a company, right. The first ever one we had

627
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 2: in mind was we wanted to well what he did do?

628
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: He did one called Blurred Reality and it was going

629
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 2: to be a clothing but.

630
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: He did, but he did.

631
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: He sold you sold surf fins, surfboard thins, airport fins

632
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:46,239
Speaker 2: actually sold it out of them.

633
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: That was a good business.

634
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,959
Speaker 2: And then when Oddie and I were traveling together, we

635
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 2: came up with this whole plan. We wanted to open

636
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: like the sickest bar ever because at the time we

637
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 2: were both still drinking and we would party a bit.

638
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: We wanted to open the sickest bar ever. And we

639
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: had like we were traveling and we go to new

640
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: bars and something that we loved in that bar. We'd

641
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: write down in our notes that we wanted to add

642
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: into our bars and it was it was fucking so funny.

643
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: And then we only a month or two ago, I

644
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: saw that note and deleted it because I was cleaning

645
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: out my notes.

646
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: That yeah, I think also another like driving factor was

647
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: and I think that's why we obviously were good friends.

648
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: But I could see it in Jake as well, like

649
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: we both hadn't found our calling at all, and like

650
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: we found our calling purely by luck, just by doing

651
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: this and putting ourselves in this situation that we found

652
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: something we love. And that's also why it worked, because

653
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,479
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people like sort of not

654
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: necessarily half asked. Maybe it's not the right word, but

655
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: they don't go full commit into something, whereas we literally

656
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: went like full deep as possible. I said, let's do

657
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: it for four years. And I think because there was

658
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: an underlying factor of like realness and a good meaning

659
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: behind the pod, that's why it sort of worked. We

660
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: weren't just like surface level substance boys you crack open

661
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: a beer and then talk about fucking yeah.

662
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: Like we spoke about.

663
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: I remember talking about what. I was like, well, what

664
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: will we talk about?

665
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: And I remember it was like, well, we do have

666
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: a lot of stories of going out of mates that

667
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: we will talk about, right, And we did at the start,

668
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: like episode one one, that's what we wanted. We did

669
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 2: want to have segments where we were like entertaining talking

670
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: about who we are and what we've done. And then

671
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: I think like it would even just be like we

672
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 2: would title a segment like this one is going to

673
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 2: be called camping with the boys, and we would.

674
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: Talk about camping experiences.

675
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: And then I think it was we might have talked

676
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 2: one might have been like, you know, what do you

677
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: do when your friend's got a sister that's fucking hot?

678
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: Stupid sh like that.

679
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: But then in every episode we would make sure I'm

680
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: pretty sure we would make sure we did. We called it,

681
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: We said that, okay, guys, this is going to be

682
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: a deep segment, and we would talk about something kind

683
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 2: of deep for a while. It's quite often ODDI bringing

684
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: it up. And then I would sometimes bring a deep

685
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: segment to the table. And then because and so yeah,

686
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: we did started. And then what we fought was like,

687
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: we'll get the guys by talking about the guy stuff,

688
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: and then we'll keep the guys by talking about the

689
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: feeling stuff. Yeah, like how we feel about things.

690
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: I get where you want to get out.

691
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: Of it both yeah, in corporate and then then yeah,

692
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: got the guys.

693
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: We never got the guys.

694
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: Ye, females started listening, and then compound it hurts my

695
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: soul a little bit because I know, looking back, like

696
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: hindsight's a bitch, and it's definitely we needed to do

697
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: all that.

698
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: That was our journey. But people still start on episode

699
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: one and I know the exact fucking story I told,

700
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: and it's like so cringe of me telling it, Like

701
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: I'm just such a like I think, what would have

702
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: we been twenty two twenty one and it's me going

703
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: home with a girl and I'm just like, ah, why

704
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: is that the first one? I mean, you gotta do it.

705
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: I feel like, I'm pretty sure we got a girl

706
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: on the phone that I had a one night stand with.

707
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, And he was like, so was my man and gentleman,

708
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure.

709
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 4: We did that.

710
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: To be fair, that's a good question. It's a good

711
00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: question to ask. Actually, she was like, I think that

712
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: also shows like character development in ourselves and gives like

713
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: hope for that men out there can find like their

714
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: people and us And I think purely by us sitting down,

715
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: I remember one of the Also the other reasons it

716
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,239
Speaker 1: worked is I always said worst case in it at

717
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: the time, it was one episode a week. We get

718
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: to I get to sit down and talk to my

719
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: best friend for a week. Yeah, and we got really

720
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: good at talking. It's in a way it was a

721
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: therapy session with unqualified therapists. Yeah, and we were forced

722
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: to talk about our feelings and you'd rack the back

723
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: of your brain thinking about what was I feeling like

724
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: this week? What can I tell Jake about I'm sure

725
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: you were doing the same.

726
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 2: No, it's hilarious. Yeah, in hindsight, back then, I bet

727
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: you we struggled to think of content. If I have

728
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: my brain now, back then, doing one episode a week, yeah,

729
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: like I got too much content, we have to add another.

730
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 2: And now because we do the multiple, it's like, oh,

731
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: what are we gonna talk about?

732
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 8: That's like like when people say wisdom is wasted on

733
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 8: the old, where it's like you have all this wisdom

734
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 8: when you're older, but like you need it when you're young,

735
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 8: when all the ideas are fresh and out.

736
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: But wisdom is wasted on the old. Is the sickest

737
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 2: saying I've never heard.

738
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: Then the other one's youth is wasted on the young.

739
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: Flipping it both because the elderly want to be young

740
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: again because they're like I regret everything.

741
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like that, it's all part of your journey.

742
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 8: At the end of day, like very much like the

743
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 8: body count conversation you're having is like you've got to

744
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 8: go through all this. You just thinking that, yeah, you've

745
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 8: got to go through this ship to become where you

746
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 8: are today. And it's easy to look back and like

747
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 8: when I brought up yesterday, I'm going to When I

748
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 8: was like, I'm gonna put the episode on, you said,

749
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 8: if you put it on, I'm leaving.

750
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: But he went to go listen to our first episode

751
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: and I was like, I'll actually go brush my teeth

752
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: and go to.

753
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 8: Bed, and Soldier I was like, fuck, it's actually been serious.

754
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 8: But it's like, you gotta go. I'm the same with

755
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 8: my Instagram videos. I look back at that and like

756
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 8: I cringe watching it. I'm like, that guy looks like

757
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 8: he's got a gun hell to his face. But I

758
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 8: know for sure in a year's time, I'll do the

759
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 8: exact same thing looking back on me now and likewise

760
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 8: for you guys, but like, you gotta go through that thing,

761
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 8: and I think for anything, it's like an opportunity for

762
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 8: you guys to be like holy fuck, like like it's

763
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 8: a way to look back and be proud of yourself.

764
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: Well, we have a genuine so we have a clear

765
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: archive archive of growth, yeah, or how we've changed as people,

766
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: and you have that for the rest of your life.

767
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: And I was saying that to you today.

768
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 8: It's like when you're filming those blogs and that and

769
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 8: you're putting them on Patreon, although not many people may

770
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 8: be seen them because it's like your top tier on Patreon,

771
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 8: but like that's there forever, and.

772
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: That's like a capsule. I was thinking that for our

773
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: kids ever. And your kid went to LA and your kids, Yeah, we.

774
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: Were talking about funny shit and okay, we were like

775
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: we were like talking about it. We just were like

776
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: in an air being being and he goes like, oh,

777
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 2: you know when we post these vlogs that we've done

778
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 2: something with our girlfriends and stuff. And I was thinking, yeah,

779
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: like what about if you're what if you're older and

780
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 2: you and you know, God forbid, you and Cassie break

781
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: up and you end up marrying someone else and you

782
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: have kids with them, and then your kids go find

783
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 2: your vlogs, right, and then your kid comes up to

784
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: you one day and goes, Dad, who's Cassie And you

785
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: just be like.

786
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 6: She's the one that got away. Let me tell you

787
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 6: how I met your mother. Yeah, yeah, I.

788
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: Was thinking, well, it's actually pretty funny. So it feels

789
00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 2: like we've known each other forever.

790
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, we haven't to me and you.

791
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 8: I was singing about this as well, like this morning

792
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 8: when I was journaling, I was singing the exact same thing.

793
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 8: It feels like we've known each other forever, but like

794
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 8: we fucking Like last time I came here, I was

795
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 8: here for a week, so I spent twenty four hours

796
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 8: staying at your house. Same again this time. It's like

797
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 8: there's not many friends, Like I've got a cool group

798
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 8: of friends who are like my best friends. I've got

799
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 8: three or four of them who are like will be

800
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 8: with me to my grave. Beyond that, there's not many

801
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 8: people in my whole life I've spent that much time with.

802
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 8: But it's like usually with your mates, you go on

803
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 8: like the weekends when you're pissed, or you do a

804
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 8: little coffee here and there, a swimmer and there. But

805
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 8: like it feels like that because we've had the opportunity

806
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 8: to like see fucking you know what I mean, all

807
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 8: hours of the day. Yeah, so it's really has it

808
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 8: has advanced quickly.

809
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 2: And I was thinking It's funny because the first time

810
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: you ever came right was when we had samples of

811
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 2: the hoodies we were about to drop. We're going to

812
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: drop them in like a month day for a night,

813
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: and you came and you stayed for one or two

814
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: nightsing was one night, yeah, And I remember like when

815
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 2: you were talking about coming, you said I'll get here

816
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: this day, and then you were like, I'll I'm gonna

817
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 2: go stay with a friend in Canberra.

818
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 1: I'm going to fly in from canber in the morning.

819
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: And then you like at the time, like we we

820
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: knew each other from like FaceTime calls and stuff like that,

821
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: but but we didn't like us. Three didn't like we

822
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 2: didn't know you didn't know us, and and we didn't

823
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 2: very much trans we didn't know you. It was very transactional.

824
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 2: I could have just been business and gone. And then

825
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 2: it was like I remember thinking in my head, funck

826
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 2: should I just offer him to offer for him to

827
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 2: stay here because you were going to stay somewhere in

828
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 2: Sydney with a friend. And I think I remember asking you, like, oh,

829
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: I have you sorted that or whatever, and like NA, no, yeah,

830
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 2: and I was and I was like fuck, like do

831
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: I invite this random guy.

832
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: To my house.

833
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: I fully remember it, yeah, and then like I did

834
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 2: obviously no regrets, but I just think it's so funny

835
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: that just like kind of was like oh do I yea.

836
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: At the time, I was like, and now I'm thinking,

837
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: like where fuck that company? I thought.

838
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 8: I remember the first time when I stayed here, when

839
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 8: we were sitting here with the double reverse Wi Hoodie samples,

840
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 8: and I was like, it was getting late. I knew

841
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 8: I had to I was planning on coming up and

842
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 8: going straight back down, and I was like, fuck, I reckon.

843
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 8: I don't know I'm gonna be able to get in

844
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 8: this flight tonight, Like we're getting pretty late, and.

845
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: I I come in what I was planning on doing.

846
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 8: But then you offer to stay if I want it,

847
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 8: And I was like, well that was I was always

848
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 8: going to do it.

849
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: But I was like, fuck as if you like offered

850
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: us Yeah, I know, I was like kind of rattled.

851
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: I just think it's so funny. Yeah, just like you

852
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 2: offer some random to stay and then but yeah, taking it.

853
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 1: Like round circle. I guess. The last like nine months

854
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: of the podcast, we like to be transparent with our journey.

855
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: We've sort of we mentioned it the other day, got

856
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: a little bit lost in, like Harry said, the transactional

857
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: side of making money on the podcast and trying to

858
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: make everybody happy, And like I said in that little

859
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: spill at the start, it is like we could have

860
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: easily just said, oh, someone, do you merch? We ticked

861
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: the box yep, that's good and sold it. And something

862
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: we're learning in real time right now is we say

863
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: it on the pod all the time is like to

864
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: trust your gut, and more recently for us is a

865
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: lot of the decisions we're making aren't necessarily the most logical.

866
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: Because this wasn't logical to say to some random guy

867
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: that's messages a message on message and caught up with

868
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: our pod, do you want to do our merch?

869
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and send you a few hoodies?

870
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like there was no logic in that. Like the

871
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: logical thing would have been to do with the company

872
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: in Sydney. You offered us and we would have ticked

873
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: a box and.

874
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 2: It would have been cheap. They would have packed everything. Yeah, everything,

875
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 2: that's the most logical thing. We were like fuck that.

876
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were with a.

877
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 2: Management company that was pushing us through that. They're like

878
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: they're asking us. They're asking us, what do you want

879
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: to do?

880
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: What do you want to do?

881
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: We'll do everything for you, or you have to do

882
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 2: is promote it.

883
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: You're like, we were like, nah, let us do it.

884
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: This was a lot more work, and I'm so grateful

885
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 1: it is and maybe the reward of monetary wasn't as good,

886
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 1: but I don't give.

887
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: A fuck about that.

888
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: You don't do it.

889
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 2: I don't look at this as a money thing.

890
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like we're learning, especially like now, and this is

891
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: probably the first thing we done unconsciously that we trusted

892
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: our gut, and we're taking that more into our transactional

893
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: side of business with the pod, where like everything's not

894
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: about money, which is obviously simple, but it's easy to

895
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: get caught up in that world of like someone's saying

896
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: this is how much money you'll make, and then you're like, oh,

897
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: maybe I should do it, or maybe I shouldn't. It

898
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: would be nice, and then like it's just trusting that

899
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: little thing in the back of your head or in

900
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: your gut, and you're just like, I'm so grateful that

901
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: we did that. Just said you want to HOLDI just

902
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: some random bloke.

903
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: He's a question for you. Harry so it's like we

904
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 2: were talking a couple of weeks ago. I think about

905
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 2: it could have been the episode where we talked about

906
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: what's challenging you right now? And I was I remember

907
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 2: bringing up something on a podcast I listened to Shits

908
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 2: and Gigs where one of the guys said, like, they

909
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 2: don't really ever get deep, like they're pretty just much comedy, right,

910
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,479
Speaker 2: but they kind of got deep and he was like, fuck,

911
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 2: we're deep right now. But one of them said, when

912
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: we first started the podcast, they're huge now. But he

913
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: was like, when we first started, we took nothing seriously right,

914
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: Like we took we like life is not that serious.

915
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 2: And it sounds like the most cliche saying he's like,

916
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 2: but when we were there, we lived by that saying,

917
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 2: as life's not that serious, like you know, we just

918
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 2: had the most fun ever. And he said the more serious,

919
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 2: the more successful their podcast had gotten, is the more

920
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: serious he has gotten. And then so I was thinking,

921
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: like Audie and I like kind of had to check

922
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: ourselves in a sense of like, because our podcast is

923
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 2: getting a bit more serious and successful, we have become

924
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: more serious, Like, well, now you know we need to

925
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: like we really need to give someone something each episode,

926
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 2: and so I think we put so much pressure on ourselves.

927
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: And someone wrote a really nice message Felicity Pasco. Shout

928
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 2: out to Flicity Pasco. She's definitely becoming an adminute the

929
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 2: Facebook group. She just shaves nice message saying something like, yeah,

930
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: miss of the days where you guys fucking we just

931
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 2: rambling about shit you loved, Like I've heard audio a

932
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 2: couple of times even say like, you know, let's get

933
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: on to the next topic, like this is boring, like

934
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: and even if we loved talking about it, and I

935
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 2: think like it just in the last nine months has

936
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: showed that we still love it and enjoy it, but

937
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 2: we we've unintentionally turned it into like something that we

938
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 2: feel like we owe. It's hard to explain, but have

939
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 2: you ever felt like that in the in your did

940
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 2: you start off thinking like this is something that's like

941
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 2: maybe we'll never take off, so it's just like it's

942
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 2: not that serious, like it's just fun, And then from

943
00:40:58,840 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: do you feel different now?

944
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 8: I totally get what you mean, And like I can

945
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 8: see from your stamp, even as a viewer, I can

946
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 8: see I could see that transition period. But I very

947
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 8: much start things and like I've so much self believed

948
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 8: that I know it's going to work out. But in

949
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 8: that sense, it's like I think for me, the way

950
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 8: I relate to that is I put a lot of

951
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 8: pressure on myself and thinking that I need results or

952
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 8: I need to do it like x amount of work.

953
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 8: So it's like where I lose this seriousness and the

954
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 8: fun side of it is like there's days where I

955
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 8: would like work ten hours, twelve hours, whatever, and I

956
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 8: fucking love.

957
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: It, like, don't get me wrong.

958
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 8: But then I'll do that constantly, constantly, constantly, And then

959
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 8: there's some days where I sit and reflect and I'm like,

960
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 8: I've got this flexibility where I'm working for myself, like

961
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 8: any hour that I want from home, but like, and

962
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 8: that's something that I dreamt of and like, earlier on

963
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 8: in the year, I was like doing three days with

964
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 8: like support work as well and the days where I.

965
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: Wasn't doing sport where I would utilize that flexibility.

966
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 8: But then for the last few months, I've just been

967
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 8: like a robot at my desk getting so much done,

968
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 8: working hard towards things I'm launching for next year. But

969
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 8: then I reflected, I'm like the thing that I craved

970
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 8: so much to be able to become full time on

971
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 8: blues and Greens was how much flexibility I was going

972
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 8: to get. But the more I went hard on blues

973
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 8: and Greens, the less flexibility I gave myself because I

974
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 8: wasn't willing to get up from my desk. So all

975
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 8: the things that I wanted to do, all the dreams

976
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 8: and the visions that I had of blues and Greens

977
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 8: going full time was me seting that fucking cafe, drinking coffee,

978
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 8: working by the bea same that was a vision that

979
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 8: I would see as myself when I was working, and

980
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 8: I was like, I can't wait to go full time,

981
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 8: lasking me so fucking good. But then the more it

982
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 8: got serious, the more serious I spent, and the more

983
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 8: things I realized, I'm not sacrificing that because I'm serious

984
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 8: on blues and Greens is my thing now and I

985
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 8: didn't actually ever, I'm not really giving myself flexibility. So

986
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 8: things like tracing them back to where I'm today is

987
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 8: like I'm here at your house for a week and

988
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 8: I don't know when I'm going to be here again,

989
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 8: and like this is like a rare opportunity for me,

990
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 8: and I've had a voice in the back of the

991
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 8: head so many times whilst I've been here telling me

992
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 8: to just go sit at a desk and just lock

993
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 8: in and do work. But then my realist mindset or

994
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 8: what I'm trying to tell myself is like, this is

995
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 8: like a rare opportunity where you've gotten the flexibility. This

996
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 8: is the flexibility you've craved, and like, enjoy these moments

997
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 8: of just like sitting on the couch watching Netflix, sitting

998
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 8: out talking to you in bed, doing things like sitting

999
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 8: in on the podcast, like making the most of these

1000
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 8: opportunities which aren't there for me day to day. And

1001
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 8: it's like I know when I go home on the weekend,

1002
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 8: when I go home next week, that I can fucking

1003
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 8: sit at my desk for hour as many fucking hours

1004
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 8: I want. Like this is the flexibility that I craved,

1005
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 8: and I'm trying to tell myself, like, make the most

1006
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 8: of these moments because back to what you were saying

1007
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 8: before about how you could have gone to the cheap

1008
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 8: merchant and things like that, But it's like opportunities like

1009
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 8: that are always going to be there for you and

1010
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 8: use a very much at your startup journey, and you're

1011
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 8: always gonna have the opportunity for quick money grab things

1012
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 8: like that, but like the opportunity to do something that

1013
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 8: is purely based of connection, opportunity to grow friendships. They're

1014
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 8: like windows at just close so quickly. So I'm sure

1015
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 8: you look back on that and like, don't regret that

1016
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 8: as all at all as do a mine. I'm just

1017
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 8: trying to remind myself of, like what do I want

1018
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 8: life to be? Do I want it to be at

1019
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 8: my desk? What I want it to be a mix

1020
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 8: of set my future up as well as enjoining and now.

1021
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: It's so hard to balance living in the present moment

1022
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: and thinking about your future and the business's future, or

1023
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: anyone who's studying, like thinking about the end goal rather

1024
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: than thinking about what you're doing right now, and yeah,

1025
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: giving yourself a break. I think that's one thing I

1026
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,959
Speaker 1: need to work on is everything I'm doing is cool

1027
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: and good and I love the grind, but I also

1028
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: also really bad at like taking a step back and

1029
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: chilling and appreciating that. And like I can see, like

1030
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: I'm obviously going to work on a lot, but I

1031
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: just don't want to get to that position where I

1032
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: forty or fifty and I've done all this cool stuff

1033
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: and I'm like, where'd the time go? Yeah? I didn't

1034
00:44:58,800 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: even appreciate it.

1035
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 2: I fucking I reckon. I could talk about that for

1036
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 2: literally a year straight, NonStop. Don't turn off the cameras

1037
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 2: down to I reckon for a year. I can ramble

1038
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: a lot about it.

1039
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: I got to question, Harry for you to finish on

1040
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: because you live in Western Australia, which, for anyone who

1041
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: doesn't live in Australia is so far away from a

1042
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: different country, so far away. If we could fly to

1043
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: New Zealand quicker than a Barley quick and Yeah, if

1044
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: Jake and I say were to move somewhere, would you

1045
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: be more inclined? I know you've said you wanted to

1046
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: get out of the Perth Western Australian bubble. Would you

1047
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 1: be inclined to come like a groupie near us? Yeah?

1048
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: Me and Jacob spoke about this.

1049
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 8: But do you say that we've spoken about this percent?

1050
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 8: I think I'm crying, like not crying out. I'm very

1051
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 8: I love it, I hope, but like for a while,

1052
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 8: I've been searching for an opportunity. I don't want to

1053
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 8: rush moving out. I've been searching for an opportunity. I

1054
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 8: was going to move my mate in Goldie than he

1055
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 8: ended up moving home. But yeah, when like an opportunity comes,

1056
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 8: I'd fucking staff at it for sure. I know that'd

1057
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 8: be right, and I know we get the best out

1058
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 8: of each other.

1059
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: Guys, future look towards the future. Just keep listening and

1060
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 2: you can see a relatables blues and greens something.

1061
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 1: Overall, if you're listening, the shirts have dropped. Hopefully they've

1062
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: sold out. I have sold out. They've sold out. We've

1063
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 1: manifested that. So unfortunately, if you haven't got one now

1064
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: you can't get But overall, thank you for supporting us

1065
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: along this journey throughout the whole podcast, as well as

1066
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: your little present before we yeah finish on this present, eh,

1067
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: Harry said he's got presents for us. I got a

1068
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: small and if you're not listening, I.

1069
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 8: Mean, if you're not watching, they wrapped up in the

1070
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 8: sock because I got here and didn't realize they were

1071
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 8: a present, So they can probably see remember what I

1072
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 8: think we can see the shape.

1073
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 2: I hope it's not what I think it is. This

1074
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 2: is Jake's one.

1075
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: It looks like a mug. This sounds like a mug.

1076
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 2: I was going to say, it looks like you think

1077
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: it was what I think it was, just a little.

1078
00:46:54,920 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: Jake's not a big thinker. Oh yeah, oh that I

1079
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: love a relatables.

1080
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 8: That could be saying that Jake was talking about I

1081
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 8: want to accessorize the studio a little bit more so.

1082
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: I think I could be saying that is sick. Mine says,

1083
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: I love relatables with an R on the front and

1084
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: it's red, and Jake.

1085
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: Mine says, pickled juice consumption device. This is amazing. I've

1086
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: never seen anything cooler than this.

1087
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: That's sick. I'll drink my mile out of it so much.

1088
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: I was thinking about audio and I was like, is

1089
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Speaker 1: he going to get as much use out of it?

1090
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Speaker 1: Because I'll put that here in my room like that.

1091
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Speaker 1: That's so good. That's sick. Thank you very much. Thank you.

1092
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 2: Hopefully you haven't worn these.

1093
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 1: This is the corner socks.

1094
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Speaker 4: It's the corner socks.

1095
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Speaker 1: You flow business. Yeah, you guys good. I like so

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Speaker 1: thank you, Thank you everybody. We'll see you later.